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!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
hey guys. I am really sorry if this has been asked before, but how do I fix my Deathstalker hero Talents?
the mark just will not trigger. its been like that for a few days. I already changed my talents and changed them to the other hero talents and so on
Are you opening on an ambush
yes
From stealth?
yes
Are you sure
yes
You don’t just have mut there
yes
Because it doesn’t auto swap in stealth due to some gains from muting from stealth
It auto ambushes on bs procs only
oh my god. you are right. it was a macro for mutilate

You’re not the first or the last 
best man
like one told me : we're all monkeys here, from time to time
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that was exactly my problem yesterday Shmeepy lol
which pvp talent tree would you recommend?

We need the “is your ambush on your stealth bar” meme like there’s the “Is your CB/Sectec macro on your stealth bar” meme
Nah we need some bitches
Including ur ass here

You might
What do you mean we
I said what I said
I am the bitches
True
Shmeeps x quake?
damn, is it all bad delves today
Quake is my pet frog
CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYMjZmxMDAAAAAAY2MmtZAAAAAAolthZYmxYmZWGDmZMzMzMzYG222GzwgNz2ADYJYZYCMsMA
ty
Buddy I’m about to give it to u froggy style
Don’t be gross
are you taking applications?
abuse me daddy
Are you physically available tho
Hey king
That’s not true bestie
how long does vile discharge (ovinax swirlies) keep going on for
i want to make a sound wa or use bigwigs to notify me when it happens
Like how long does it take between them starting to spawn and the last one landing?
Dudes, i`m reading guides but they are a bit complicated, with just maintaining bleeds i do around half of the damage i do on sub.
Are there any good videos on rotation that you found helpful? I learn better from yt than text xD
jeez that trinket is huge even 606
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!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
bro linked a 1 hr video
if the answer is "I don't want to read and also I don't want to watch a long video" then my response is "then just be bad instead"
figure it out yourself instead!
listen to whisp yap or grey parse, the choice is yours
thanks! will watch
Raid or M+?
raid
skip the parts where he is wilding out about vanish and you can cut out half the video
are you using tea and shiv properly during your kb and dm
what about not embelished craft guys ? im on wrist/belt and idk if i go for a ring or a dagger for normal 636 craft
if you don't have a dagger or will get one soon its a good craft
probably not, i switched to assa like 1 hour ago
will watch that video now and see whats what 😄
Also bugs mentioned in that video have been fixed i believe
i have trouble keeping sustained 1mil dps on sub on single target, but i see assa rogues easily doing that
so i want to learn that 😄
Assa i think is worse than sub at ST
but you do you
I mean I'd rather play assa either way
yeah i think assa is punished less by getting mechanics at bad times
probably, your ticks are still ticking 😄
not by that much
Only really matters during opener but yes
ur not gonna lose 50% damage by switching spec playing optimally lol
1>Maintain garrote and rupture 100%. No excuse.
2>If there is even a small amount of cleave involved, take caustic splatter.
3>Make full use of your cooldown windows (Deathmark+Kingsbane). Push as much envenoms into your window as possible. Use 2x shiv to cover entire kingsbane, use vanish to cover last 6 seconds of both, use tea at last 5 seconds of kingsbane.
You'll shoot your dps through the moon

that’s pretty much it
except tea at end of kb is kinda fake now
you can tea any time in shiv
you just tea for energy right?

How is it fake? Doesn't the mastery make bane go boom?
kingsbane was nerfed hard enough this expansion that the prio changed and it’s not worth sacrificing other shit for it anymore
is my understanding
using methanfetimines really boosts the dps
what does vanish do
tea to maintain constant mashing of envenoms the entire shiv > tea for end of kingsbane
i think in general the idea is that kingsbane is less large at the end to just slam a tea into it no matter what, teaing for energy is better now
yep
Having sex before the raid boosts mine. Especially unprotected.

they didn’t nerf it’s damage output directly they just nerfed max stacks
so you hit capped out kb damage faster and it’s not as big of a deal
(that is nerfing its output)
That's the most incel thing I've heard in a while ngl.
you just want to mash
i said directly for a reason
i hand out a good time afterwards
improved garrote
but you are just a dumb person so it’s alright
What haste should you aim for Assass? (Mostly M+)
my bad that wasn’t necessary
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
oh boy we are firing on all cylinders today fellas
brother that's like saying i didn't eat directly i just put food in my mouth and swallowed it
its alright
oh ok so it doesn't necessarily need to be used in the last 6 seconds of kb/dm, it's also not in the recommended st build
You use it to pandemic refresh imp garrote during dm basically yeah
My wife called me incel before marriage. What a loser
I didn't say you are an incel, I said that "unprotected sex before raid boosts ..." is an incel thing to say 😂
Applying DS mark after breaking stealth on pot use 
actually discussing the specifics of the nerf is extremely important to the tea usage discussion that was happening at the time
but again you are stupid
so it’s not a big deal


i wouldn’t have said it again but he decided to double down so
"you're stupid" with the bla to show i'm not serious
But for deathstalker pooling is cringe anyways until unless approaching a Kb/dm window
nice
its not extremely important to the tea usage you either do the thing or you don't the why of why KB does less isn't relevant to the actions you take at all. idk why you're being weird
Curious if my crit is way too low. Can anyone tell me there crit% so I can get a rough idea
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
i was clarifying why your statement was just doubletalk to hopefuly avoid people getting confused
This is pointless to what I’m trying to achieve
No it isnt
for M+ do u shiv at last 8 sec of kingsbane? on your caustic target for aoe
there is not cap or amount of stats
I’m not new here I understand the stats
that you aim for
It's exactly what you're trying to achieve, what are you trying to ask @west crown
equip ilvl call it a day
that’s literally it.
Until you are MAX GEARED and then you would just sim your own character at that point.
Im looking at logs of higher parses and noticing a way different dps of envenom at similar casts and wondering if my crit is too low
It's not
why does that have anything to do with crit
its not though
Envenom crit% is the difference. Just trying to see if they got lucky
Probably 🙂
Or if I need more crit
do you have less hits of deathstalkers mark
skill diff prob
darkest night gives 100% crit
!guide
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anyone
all the high parses are just luck 
caustic damage dealt is calculated before the damage taken debuff from shiv
so shiv only affects prio dam
not aoe
lame ok
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yep
@keen spruce with 50% sophic uptime agrees
yes but not all damage increases to bane apply to spatter
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
it is counterintuitive for sure
My smold one was pretty disgusting
does poison bomb work with caustic?
if it makes your kb last tick do more, it makes spatter do more
this isn’t true
60 
this is not true
the way damage works makes that not true on like a cringe technicality
shiv will make your kb tick do more to the target with shiv, but the amount that spatters will not change with or without shiv
damage dealt is different from damage taken and r calculated at different times
it is "increased damage done" vs "increased damage taken", increased dmg done will get transfered via spatter, increased damage taken will not
it is counterintuitive but real
spatter only takes the damage dealt by ur spells before enemy mitigation etc
I haven’t tested this shit in like 7 months
okay so my kb doing 30% more damage won't spatter any more damage?
yep
correct
That doesn't make any sense
just 30% more to prio target
You should still shiv <8s remaining in kb
it is still best though because it is still more to your main target just to be clear
you just dont get the aoe benefit too
because shiv isn't making your KB do 30% more damage, its making the one target with shiv take 30% more damage
Wouldn’t arterial precision do this?
it’s because your kingsbane isn’t dealing 30% more damage. that one target is taking 30% more nature
Yes ap would
Let’s go gambling!
For pure Aoe you'd just not shiv if you dont have arterial
But for prio damage obviously shiv is better
and the spatter dmg is calculated without the damage taken amp of the shiv on your main target
That is the dumbest fucking interaction
Yeah only ur prio target is taking the increased shiv dmg, doesnt tranfser thru spatter
yes
yeah
it is dumb
the way we talk about “dealing damage” in english seems like it would involve the start and end of the interaction
but that’s not how the game works
so it doesn’t work that way
unlucky
Wow pemdas is so fried sometimes 
they would have to nerf spatter or KB if they let it transfer all that increased shiv damage, it would sky rocket our damage. obviously it feels weird that it doesn't work like that, but they don't just give us all that damage without taking something else away
I keep forgetting, is caustic spatter radius based on the target or your position?
yeah i mean for sure, it would just be nice if the interaction was more intuitively worded ingame
Target
target
kk ty
Reported

i too like being op but not at the cost of being well designed
nerf spatter, give aura buff pls
i’d love to lose spatter damage and become actually competitive in single target
this!
We are competitive in st 
not really
I gotta start pulling the logs before the 10.2 change lol
Think about it like a ricocheting bullet right, if you shoot the bullet (envenom) and it hits a wall for 100 damage, it’ll ricochet to a chair and deal 45 damage. Now say the wall is taking 30% more damage, the bullet still hits it for 100, but it takes 30% more so it actually taking 130, but the ricochet is still only 45
Yeah and that’s stupid
Basically fking begging for better cleave
Imo
We’re one of the lowest st specs
legit lol
Bottom of the barrel. Aug is lower but you know, Aug
exile was doing vile evil shit on kyveza to still deal balls damage by the end

we suck
you can top meters if your group is just not as good at their class as you are at yours
but that’s it
no other situation
seems like you can play sub and top on mythic silken court and queen ansurek
yea that’s how it’s supposed to look
i wish my guild made shit look like that
life would be so easy if people did dam
300k dps behind and a 99 lol
Skill issue tbh
Top 10 parse btw
Which boss

Idk I forgot
damn I feel way less shitty now
Why not #1 mister guidewriter
Wait the opposite
I pulled it out of my hr channel from when I was malding on Tuesday
Guidrwriters suck at the game
TLDR; do a million dps and you should be fine
What was the justification for nerfing KB going into this xpac?

Also @balmy condor do you raid tn
I wasn’t really paying attention during beta and stuff
Yes
Ovi’nax prog
that
they don't want is being EVERYTHING
Rightly so
Ahhh I saw pao concerned earlier
Figured
About it
About ovi’nax?
now show ur sikran damage charts whispah
Wait you’re on KJ
@balmy condor wait you’re on kj?
dude you're on kj?
darkdk#1
what are the chances this whole area 52 restart thing actually fixes anything with the realms stability
Bring back alliance whispyr
gotta be less than 5% right

11.0.5 maybe
Idk but it keeps fucking up my raid
weekend raiding is nice for that
Yours and everyone else’s
Read that too
i gotta get my big gay ass on an ally server now that i’m velf
Pao is the fucking man. He’s so funny
Come to stormrage 
that’s the idea
He was fourth (below a blue hunter) and had an orange 
Trial for consequence so scana can call u a donkey
I’ve never had a guild not offer to cover my transfer 
Or just do some boosts 
Okay
i mean that doesn’t matter anymore anyway right
at what KS lvl does Hybrid starts being the better build?
How about you boost DN
ally realm would just give me a chat to read
!sims
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Oh I forgor
They did that finally
yeah

can we get a rogue buff
They’re not tuning until the race is over now
why do we suck so bad on first boss anyways

Second pull lines up directly with kb and intermission shit kinda falls over
i noticed my dps tanks in intermission but I was confused as to why it was so bad
still doing good splash with caustic
Shit falls over. If you’re bleeding up. You’re 2-3 globals into doing damage
Before you do decent aoe
Yeah some classes can just press a button and explode in aoe we have to ramp
i really do hate the ramp
I wish we could just get caustic from mutilating while envenom buff is up or something
first boss downtime is long
it sucks having to find a target throw a rupture on
Caustic is already very good
Making it better is 
It feels so dumb to see caustic do most damage in every fight you take it already
yeah it feels broken
its annoying to use and too strong
satisfying as hell when shit lives for longer than 5 seconds
but not so much elsewhere
Just give it the cleave/blade flurry sound effect so I actually feel it working
It has a sound effect when it’s applied
Idk its kinda chunky
Does it have one for when its cleaving tho? Cause I havent noticed
nah it needs to be every proc
So assa can lag even more pc’s? 
Need to get a WA to have the classic cleave sound proc
Got a weakaura that plays a lightsaber sound when darkest night procs 
my shit used to just talk to me
what m+ setup do you guys use? for +7-+9
Hybrid build
@zinc frost can you link me a code for the build plz
6th doing 1,1m WE STRONG BOYS
I died laughing watching exile stream the race, all these crazy mechanics and his weakaura just goes "jump 3 times" for his trinket
rogue looking sage
how bad is that trinket?
anyone had a bug where when u go to use bubbling wax it says ur weapon is too high level?
!wax
Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:
- If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
- If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip
!wax
Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:
- If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
- If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip
is there a command for the upgrade table?
!up
!up
Goddamnit
Smoked both of you
tony too quick
Nerd

It’s good I think but using it on mythic prog seems wild
Can someone explain to me how important it is and when we should focus on using Envenom with 50% or more energy?
anyone have a script for plater that changes the color of a nameplate when caustic spatter is on the target?
Use Whispyrs Plater
or download whispyrs plater and yoink his mod
i dont get why does my mates caustic splatter deal such high dmg, whats the right use of caustic splatter ? do i spam mutilate on 1 ruptured target to get it higher
Whispyr doesn't want you to know about this but the thing is free, you can just take it with you
I have 357 recolor mods at home
!up
you hit mutilate on the main target of a pack after you have already put all your dots out, spatter will last for 10 sec and it just splashes damage
who's excited for feint to be off the GCD!? That's actually a dps increase
Caustic is a debuff on one target that splashes damage onto nearby enemies. So you want to get caustic up on your prio target and use CDs into that target to splash more damage on other mobs
hello friends! does anyone have a wa or plater profile or something that reduces the amount debuffs you see on the target?
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Try these @compact dew
does it matter if i have caustic debuff up before or after dots and cds on target? does it bump up the splash dmg real time or should i reaplly caustic even if its already on
I apply garrote and rupture once or twice depending on 3/4 or 5/6 mobs then him muta on prio target and crimson tempest, then spam knives as generator and pump enven into prio target. Making sure to muta again before spatter wears off
thank you!
Kb/shiv after caustic and CT to pump up the nature damage even more to spread
I’m no expert but I think the math favors that prio
maybe we actually can trust this guy
so no need to do mutilate on aoe on prio target unless its to reapply caustic debuff ?
With all those ruptures you get flooded with energy to spam
Yea knives is a better generator that muta I think for 3+ targets. Maybe 2+ im not totally sure. Granted you have CT talents
what
thats some r/wow kinda take

ya
that entire thing is such a small QoL change

and people act as if its the biggest thing in wow history
its nice dont get me wrong but like
its insane
It really doesn’t make a difference for Assas except for the feels
Huge feelies
But losing globals during dance for sub is big saddies
So it’ll be nice for the other specs
And tbh, defensives just shouldn’t be on the gcd
!Craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
Getting gcd locked knowing you’re about to get pummeled by a mechanic feels bad
i know i'm mostly joking, but saving a global to do an extra attack instead of feint, is technically more damage than "wasting" a global to survive.
Since those globals are so precious to Assas as we afk waiting for envenom to run down

4-6 weeks
Like 90% of the time it’s a one and done for an m+ but if there’s a wipe or something silly it’s just an annoying cp waster (and I forget sometimes)
!fuu
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playerbase : complains about defensive creep. blizzard: feint off gcd 
being alive is a dps increase, more opportunities to press feint is good
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For ovinax mythic, we don’t spread ruptures at all right since we don’t play scent of blood?
most feints I've put out so far is like 65 in a CoT 10, I feel like I get to press it enough. i just like the resource management side of feint on gcd
it's such a powerful defensive baseline, feels over the top losing a tradeoff to being able to access it
I mean there should be less defensives. But the ones that do exist shouldn’t be on gcd imo
It just doesn’t make a big difference to assas
Sim. But 636 dagger isn’t a bad choice
maybe, maybe not. playing DS in raid I seem to rarely be low on energy enough to wait for envenom's duration to run low, pretty much full spam
I'm trying to sim as if I have the emergency neck from stonevault but it's not simming at the right ilvl. Anyone see something wrong in the code?
specifically
"# "Emergency Stop" Keychain (619)
neck=,id=221077,gem_id=213458/213743,bonus_id=42/10355/10262/1520/10255/10395/10879"
I can see some people (me, i suck) running out of energy and not being able to press it, or activating the new tea threshold accidently, as a result of not needing to pay much attention to the gcd side of it
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for this sim to work it has to be done through the code
I want to run a dropoptimizer sim with the neck on
yeah that's easy
aight how do i do it?
Do a topgear
I'll record it np
Hey all. I don't feel like my dps is that great. I'm ilvl 606 and I think I'm doing my rotation correctly. I followed the Method/IcyVeins guides as well.
What am I missing?
can have this as well idk what you exactly what to droptimize but if it's heroic raid then gg https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wa8FavuwABHEq7pzgXCDQR
Sadly not at the moment. I'll grab some and get it here.
np
Understanding caustic is the key to absolutely mogging dps meters in keys and sending those palas and shamans crying for buffs 
Caustic splatters a portion of your nature damage onto your nearby targets, so here's the catch (an obvious one though), the more nature damage your prio target takes, the more caustic splatters onto your nearby mobs, and hence big damage. 
Bleeds are a maintanence buff, you apply them and forget about them, and don't worry about min maxxing it. Even if running scent, applying 2 ruptures out of stealth means 6 stacks. Applying 3-4 garrotes means 9 mobs having empowered garrotes running, which is huge. That's like first 5-6 seconds of a pull.
Now, coming back to caustic, you mutilate once and make sure that for the next 8 seconds, your prio target takes as much nature damage as possible.
1> Deathmark is up because it duplicates everything
2> Kingsbane is up with tea for mastery (more nature damage)
3>Spam FoK into envenoms as much as possible. (More envenoms = More nature damage)
4>Use shiv for the last 8 seconds of kingsbane for more nature damage (this is where kingsbane hits the hardest)
5>Reapply splatter and continue, keeping up the bleeds
Ideally your splatter should be top 2 sources of damage overall, other one being envenom or garrote. 
Where people mess up their splatter windows:-
1>De-syncing DM and KB.
2>Applying KB on a mob which will die way before kingsbane runs out (like in 5 seconds or less)
3>Wasting splatter windows to apply bleeds (it should be up before)
4>Forgetting to reapply splatter
Anyone bored enough to look at some logs?
sorry that happened mate
Happy for you
nice
Not getting the damage of assas I thought I would 😮💨
!tricks
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
link
but also if it's like a 93 and you're mad it's not a 99
I'm gonna beat your shit viciously
I wish
It’s in the purples/blues
I got some of those. Can I get beat
So definitely a lot of room for improvement
Can you beat me viciously even if I wasn’t upset because of something like that?
Bested you again Edward
log
Except I don’t have logs 🙂
sorry too many chatters no cap cant read trough it all

xac...
vara
favorite cheese?
Comté
600 ilvl 2P zug zug
if I get a parry on my kb, does it show in the dmg breakdown under miss % ?
thats too advanced for me
Anyone far into mythic brood that has some logs I can spy on for cd timings?
I think last time that happened to me I just jumped off
"nah I ain't doin this pull"
On cd pretty much
Second dm can be delayed like 2-3 seconds if youre struggling with those adds but idk they just die instantly for us
Yes send on pull
Eleem is sub going to be alot worse on last 2 bosses after this patch goes live
since with this tuning looks like were all still gonna be progging
On court probably ye
Just kill it before patch 
I believe
court likely, not so sure about queen 

But idk, im like 99.9999% sure new ER is gonna be bugged and not work with either shadowed finishers or secret technique
didnt exile play sin on court
just like 100% of all the other things they add
already
Idk everything is just designed to be as wonky as possible for sub so everything always bugs
wdym i love still using talents that got removed in the beta
Like if sub had its bugs fixed it would gain like 8-9% on ST and like 15%+ on aoe
Why the fuck
Yeah
its like the most basic cheese tho
Its literally dumb
That one ye, darkest night not working with shadowed finishers, sectech not working with lingering or blades, coup cdr not working, nimble being 40% and also not working with blades, replicating doing like 20% less damage than it should and causing shadowcraft refund delays
Decent choice 
what is coup cdr
As in, its grants 7 cp worth of cdr, not 12
cdr and energy from relentless strikes
Also the new ER doesnt work for sub on the ptr yet either
So surely it works with everything come release 
Hell no
SURELY
You would if it wasnt bugged
you like nutty cheeses more than creamy cheeses or is it just comte
like comte has nut flavor
Hard cheeses normally more nutty ye
nut
no wae
is also a very nutty cheese
Smoked gouda very nutty
Not actual nuts
I dont judge !


god how i want some cheese platter
Mozzarella fresh creamy
Parmesan nutty
I think
beaufort is nutty

Brie gud
i dont like the blue fuckers tho
reblochon is very nutty aftertaste I think
haven't had in a while
good cheese though
brie !
do you guys even eat real cheese
no cause shits expensive probably and its not part of my culture
reblochon is similar to camembert right
Buratta s-tier cheese
shity market cheese is used for cooking
If its about eating cheese itself, its french cheese ofc
i think its more creamy
reblochon
but idk
im not a big cheese conoiseur either
it's hard to find reblochon here
You literally do not...
Might wanna read what the talent does
i eat the cheapest and most protein packed cheese i find in the store
Ikr lmao I was mistaken
dont care about taste or how it feels(mostly)
in french we just have cheese stores
altough its a bit rarer now i guess
Nice npnp
Can I safely run double vers pvp embellishment as assa? To help me survive more
we have those too kinda-ish but they're very rare, and most of the time there's just a big cheese section at a bigger store
would ask the #pvp guys, but I assume it's probably fine
im banning you
I don't think thats the point of the embellish
Pretty sure when you're being focused you're below 80% hp
here its called Raclette chese
only used for that
and its shit
💀
no shot
hm?
doesnt look like raclette cheese
don't you use swiss cheese for raclette?>
Well ngl feint off gcd is a bigger deal
than any of the other november changes we're getting
mate im in the middle of fucknowhere germany
the place is cursed


Yeah but close enough

📈
It helps with damage too but just thought it might help make me a bit tankier
bro it comes in unholy packaging
wtf
Bro cmon
thats
pretty sure pvpers play ascension

so american
and then each one is wrapped individually
Enough plastic to wipe out a whole tribe of sea turtles
NO ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS
it's actually full america-core
Probably. Ascension or ascension + writhing maybe
god had no hand in making kraft singles
I’m new to rogue. Never played before a week ago
You guys don’t even know how American cheese is made Smdh
“Is that cheese processed”
It’s processed but it ain’t cheese
idk all big name pvp rogs play sub

since its better
@midnight mist have you heard of velveeta
nope
Whispyr no
AHAHAHA

Velvetta a truly cursed creation
LMFAOO
WHAT THE FUCK
americans dont even like velveeta

It melts
what the actuall fuck is that
At room temperature
It’s more like a butter
Velveeta is not actual cheese
You can get it in a spray bottle too if that's more your style
Its basically cheese butter
???????????????????????????????????????????
You put it on macaroni and stir it until it is no longer block shaped
YO CHEESE IN A CAN
what is wrong with you UK rejects 
It knowing your food chemistry
ok Walter White

Dog this isn’t even the worst bit
Step 1) acquire bathtub to mix chemicals in
Unironically American cheese is only correct cheese for burger tho
As nasty as it is
Subway bread was under lawsuit because it was made with the same material used to make gym mats
In all other applications
?
Maybe they should have sued the gym mat people for making their mats out of bread

Bread shouldn’t be made with azodicarbonamide
This also isn’t like ancient history, it was 2014
I don’t want bread on my feet while I’m stretching
I do

It’s just used as a whitening agent for the bread + cereal from GM iirc
what about the shells and cheese cause they aren't legally allowed to call it "mac and cheese" since it's neither mac, nor cheese, so they had to copyright "shells and cheese" as its own thing and then note that it's not actually cheese 
CHEESE PRODUCT
YEAH BABY
American cheese is one of the most inoffensive things we process
Velveeta is an abomination
And I’d say light it on fire
But I don’t think you can
nah im sorry for starting this
Seriously i dont know a single person that actually has ever eaten velveeta
hahahaha
I’ve definitely eaten it
I’m going to process quake until he comes out as a cheese “product”
that's what we like to see
I’m certain that a primary ingredient in velveta is Elmer’s glue and you can’t convince me otherwise
Not by choice
Buddy stop washing for a week and ur there
Smegma or whatever
hey how do i sim my character if he were another race? i saw last time in here someone posted mechagnome did more dps?
Radicals don’t matter
Radicals

^
Excuses
Racials don’t matter a ton though that’s real
MY FINGIES ARENT AS NIMBLE AS THEY USED TO BE
In the apl text when you’re simming your character you can change it to say =human or whatever you want
guys for m+ boost and push which embellishmen the dawn embellishment or crit embellishment
Change the race line on the import before you quick sim
but does mechagnome have something special or was it a joke dad they do more dmg?
NOT APL I REPEAT NOT APL
if i wanted a log review what do i link? My character page?? I parse well but im just trying to see if there are slight improvements i can make besides gear
passive agi
You know what I meant you lil purple name 
guys for m+ boost and push which embellishmen the dawn embellishment or crit embellishment pls helpp
Yeah but others don’t
aight tyty
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
what does "parse well" mean
Fuck
100
Mechagnome is best for raids yes due to the passive damage increase or whatever the fuck it is. But who the fuck wanna look like a mechagnome willingly
@blazing jewel because he’s one irl

If ur a mechagnome you gotta spend a lot on those enchants or whatever that let you be another race
You can make 1 rogue of each class and play them all
i just see purple parses so i say well lol

Real chads play tauren rogues
Technically best but we’re talking about like very small margins between absolute best and worse races. It’s much better to pick race based on utility. Or looks 
ez clap pad harder kill faster outgear more
Disgusting
I have 6 rogues if im not wrong .-.
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
but why
Ur so real for that
Gonna retire my ass
Why not? 😄
@balmy condor throwback to when you changed off vulpera for sark because that race was actual dog water
cause you have to level 6 rogues
I played tauren rogue in mdi trials. Full naked 2x fish swords and a flower in my hair 
Mop Remix 😄
Tauren male hits diff 
Bag of tricks lookin mf
Gigachad
bro I had a rank 1 parse on a low % wipe I was FIENDING

We did not qualify 
Man hadn’t touched grass in months
tbf, it was assa and sark
i had a 24 parse as rank #28 or smth like that 
Mop remix was good
fuck you
I am going to come back as an eu import player and join @royal lantern s guild
dawnthread embellishment right?
I play orc so I’m a basic bitch, might change to Tauren just because it’s funny af
Ye
we killed queen tonight finally
turns out, it helps when you have actually your tanks and healers 
I miss going into whispyr’s steam and telling him they wouldn’t have wiped if he wasn’t playing vulpeera 
vacations on tier start are cursed
Nah
it's okay, ovi'nax today so we're full brainrot agony
They gonna be al 80 and more with that 5% per 80 ^^
just link him
fuck you ryler


Bro I pray you have maplestory on in the background for sanity tn
575 bdk 
Kappa
Maplestory ≠ sanity
The classic consequence comp of no monk buff no windfury for sark prog 
we in this bitch
It’s when he’s the happiest
That was a nightmare
Because he’s free
Mushroom game gud
Told ya
Hol up dog
12k this guy never closes it
Reroll that playtime

Jesus Christ
my favorite part is when the rl asks what specs you playing per boss
Nl main for sure
"Idk they all suck this tier"
dawn warrior
You disgust me
“I main Assas but I multispec into bench if needed”
Talk your shit ‼️
read it and weep peasants
@royal lantern
has maple always been on steam or
Bro that’s crazy
lel only 276?
get my bte dopamine fix
realize still low on meter
I don't grind 
die
real and true
no time for wapping 
You should 😦
also yk whats the worst
yeah I mean ofc I should
For uh whating
wapping brother
not having another 613 in a trinket/ring slot
“I don’t grind” (11000 hours)
Then stop linking your 12k hours of sitting in Henesys 😛
I WASNT EVEN TRYING TO FLEX THE HOURS
You got what you deserved!
mate, im still sitting at 606 neck/boots cus nothing drops for those slots
and 31 runs into GB with no trinket
i think my neck is 610
Useless if u don't farm 😛
that 20% drop got me my berserked hold your tongue
also need meso/drop rate gear to make it work
Nerds
On topic 
whispyr - are we going double duskweave emb. or ascendance + nerub?
i mean yeah lol. I just didnt know if i could improve on the rotation is all or if im doin something im not supposed to be
Shut up you old ho don’t you have a bear to keep
guys on dungeon ascension is so bad or it can be good ?
wherever the wind takes you my love

but i def need better gear as im missing Skardyns kik
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

Can’t keep it up if it’s dead 
ascencion and dawnthread is it bad
Oh shit you fat weaved too?
when do you press tea, when do you press envenom outside of cooldowns
Hell yeah
yh we gonna fck u up 😛
okay well that doesn't make sense
im not above %80 at the dungeons
Yeah yeah yeah. No. Just eat four bolts in .5 seconds 
Buddy I clear 2x whispy’s body weight as a squat I’ll drop ur pops pal (this is a joke I don’t know you idk why I think this is appropriate)
The squat bit is real tho
I prob do 3x with my body x)
At least they fixed it
Trinkets don’t exist
@balmy condor what’s my stat prio
(u are still my friend)
660 squat (iirc) would be impressive
k > y > s
its crit into swiftness

Brother
ajjajaa
the K stands for Krit
660kg?
Big crit
















