#assassination

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keen spruce
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They should run pretty close together

spice spire
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!stats

prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
woven pebble
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hey guys. I am really sorry if this has been asked before, but how do I fix my Deathstalker hero Talents?

the mark just will not trigger. its been like that for a few days. I already changed my talents and changed them to the other hero talents and so on

woven pebble
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yes

spice spire
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From stealth?

woven pebble
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yes

spice spire
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Are you sure

woven pebble
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yes

spice spire
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You don’t just have mut there

dark thorn
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yes

spice spire
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Because it doesn’t auto swap in stealth due to some gains from muting from stealth

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It auto ambushes on bs procs only

woven pebble
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oh my god. you are right. it was a macro for mutilate

spice spire
woven pebble
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I just checked it

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thank you so much

spice spire
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I’ve done this a time or two

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No worries king

spice spire
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You’re not the first or the last WideGeorgeHappy

woven pebble
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best man

dark thorn
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like one told me : we're all monkeys here, from time to time

keen spruce
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Why even ask the first questions

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It’s always the stealth bar

potent raven
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
dark thorn
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that was exactly my problem yesterday Shmeepy lol

spice spire
pastel cradle
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which pvp talent tree would you recommend?

arctic socket
shy pecan
spice spire
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Including ur ass here

shy pecan
keen spruce
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What do you mean we

spice spire
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I said what I said

keen spruce
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I am the bitches

spice spire
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True

arctic socket
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Shmeeps x quake?

runic hinge
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damn, is it all bad delves today

arctic socket
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Shmake

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👌

keen spruce
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Quake is my pet frog

arctic socket
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What that tongue do

thorn fjord
spice spire
spice spire
thorn fjord
spice spire
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I’m emotionally unavailable and I’d never do that to the homies

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Maybe tho

thorn fjord
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abuse me daddy

spice spire
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Mm

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Not a fan of that

thorn fjord
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Early lunch to day

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fuggit

keen spruce
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Are you physically available tho

arctic socket
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He’s always available

spice spire
spice spire
static glacier
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how long does vile discharge (ovinax swirlies) keep going on for

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i want to make a sound wa or use bigwigs to notify me when it happens

keen spruce
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Like how long does it take between them starting to spawn and the last one landing?

timid coyote
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Dudes, i`m reading guides but they are a bit complicated, with just maintaining bleeds i do around half of the damage i do on sub.
Are there any good videos on rotation that you found helpful? I learn better from yt than text xD

faint path
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jeez that trinket is huge even 606

eager gazelle
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boreal lichen
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!craft

prisma monolithBOT
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Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

cobalt sphinx
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bro linked a 1 hr video

subtle tundra
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shortest assa guide

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what can you do

spice spire
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Is kinda insane

eager gazelle
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if the answer is "I don't want to read and also I don't want to watch a long video" then my response is "then just be bad instead"

subtle tundra
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figure it out yourself instead!

runic hinge
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listen to whisp yap or grey parse, the choice is yours

timid coyote
timid coyote
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raid

eager gazelle
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skip the parts where he is wilding out about vanish and you can cut out half the video

timid coyote
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im 615ilvl but do like 700k dps

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its still better than 400k i did an hour ago

cobalt sphinx
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are you using tea and shiv properly during your kb and dm

frosty coral
runic hinge
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if you don't have a dagger or will get one soon its a good craft

timid coyote
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will watch that video now and see whats what 😄

deep gyro
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Also bugs mentioned in that video have been fixed i believe

timid coyote
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i have trouble keeping sustained 1mil dps on sub on single target, but i see assa rogues easily doing that

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so i want to learn that 😄

runic hinge
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Assa i think is worse than sub at ST

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but you do you

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I mean I'd rather play assa either way

cobalt sphinx
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yeah i think assa is punished less by getting mechanics at bad times

timid coyote
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probably, your ticks are still ticking 😄

novel star
quartz lance
novel star
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ur not gonna lose 50% damage by switching spec playing optimally lol

hexed frost
# timid coyote raid

1>Maintain garrote and rupture 100%. No excuse.
2>If there is even a small amount of cleave involved, take caustic splatter.
3>Make full use of your cooldown windows (Deathmark+Kingsbane). Push as much envenoms into your window as possible. Use 2x shiv to cover entire kingsbane, use vanish to cover last 6 seconds of both, use tea at last 5 seconds of kingsbane.

You'll shoot your dps through the moon

novel star
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that’s pretty much it

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except tea at end of kb is kinda fake now

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you can tea any time in shiv

eager gazelle
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you just tea for energy right?

novel star
quartz lance
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How is it fake? Doesn't the mastery make bane go boom?

novel star
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kingsbane was nerfed hard enough this expansion that the prio changed and it’s not worth sacrificing other shit for it anymore

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is my understanding

sudden torrent
cobalt sphinx
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what does vanish do

novel star
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tea to maintain constant mashing of envenoms the entire shiv > tea for end of kingsbane

placid wave
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i think in general the idea is that kingsbane is less large at the end to just slam a tea into it no matter what, teaing for energy is better now

novel star
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yep

hexed frost
novel star
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they didn’t nerf it’s damage output directly they just nerfed max stacks

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so you hit capped out kb damage faster and it’s not as big of a deal

placid wave
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(that is nerfing its output)

quartz lance
novel star
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you just want to mash

novel star
sudden torrent
frosty coral
novel star
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but you are just a dumb person so it’s alright

hasty agate
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What haste should you aim for Assass? (Mostly M+)

novel star
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my bad that wasn’t necessary

prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
eager gazelle
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oh boy we are firing on all cylinders today fellas

placid wave
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brother that's like saying i didn't eat directly i just put food in my mouth and swallowed it

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its alright

cobalt sphinx
proven jasper
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You use it to pandemic refresh imp garrote during dm basically yeah

hexed frost
quartz lance
hexed frost
novel star
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but again you are stupid

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so it’s not a big deal

proven jasper
novel star
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i wouldn’t have said it again but he decided to double down so

cobalt sphinx
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"you're stupid" with the bla to show i'm not serious

hexed frost
placid wave
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its not extremely important to the tea usage you either do the thing or you don't the why of why KB does less isn't relevant to the actions you take at all. idk why you're being weird

west crown
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Curious if my crit is way too low. Can anyone tell me there crit% so I can get a rough idea

spice surge
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!stats

prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
placid wave
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i was clarifying why your statement was just doubletalk to hopefuly avoid people getting confused

west crown
proven jasper
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No it isnt

tepid lichen
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for M+ do u shiv at last 8 sec of kingsbane? on your caustic target for aoe

proven jasper
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there is not cap or amount of stats

west crown
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I’m not new here I understand the stats

proven jasper
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that you aim for

placid wave
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It's exactly what you're trying to achieve, what are you trying to ask @west crown

proven jasper
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equip ilvl call it a day

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that’s literally it.

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Until you are MAX GEARED and then you would just sim your own character at that point.

west crown
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Im looking at logs of higher parses and noticing a way different dps of envenom at similar casts and wondering if my crit is too low

placid wave
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It's not

proven jasper
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why does that have anything to do with crit

spice surge
west crown
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Envenom crit% is the difference. Just trying to see if they got lucky

proven jasper
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Probably 🙂

west crown
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Or if I need more crit

cobalt sphinx
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do you have less hits of deathstalkers mark

runic hinge
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skill diff prob

cobalt sphinx
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maybe you are just cycling dsm slower

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less darkest night

proven jasper
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Or maybe he is just playing correctly

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yeah

cobalt sphinx
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darkest night gives 100% crit

cunning urchin
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!guide

novel star
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doesn’t matter

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shiv doesn’t affect aoe damage

blazing jewel
novel star
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caustic damage dealt is calculated before the damage taken debuff from shiv

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so shiv only affects prio dam

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not aoe

tepid lichen
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o

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i thought making your bane do more would make caustic do ore

novel star
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still use it in the last 8 for optimal prio dam

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but it won’t buff the cleave

tepid lichen
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lame ok

white holly
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!ui

prisma monolithBOT
novel star
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yep

runic hinge
placid wave
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yes but not all damage increases to bane apply to spatter

vestal crater
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
placid wave
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it is counterintuitive for sure

blazing jewel
tepid lichen
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does poison bomb work with caustic?

runic hinge
novel star
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this isn’t true

placid wave
novel star
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the way damage works makes that not true on like a cringe technicality

placid wave
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shiv will make your kb tick do more to the target with shiv, but the amount that spatters will not change with or without shiv

novel star
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damage dealt is different from damage taken and r calculated at different times

eager gazelle
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it is "increased damage done" vs "increased damage taken", increased dmg done will get transfered via spatter, increased damage taken will not

placid wave
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it is counterintuitive but real

novel star
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spatter only takes the damage dealt by ur spells before enemy mitigation etc

keen spruce
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I haven’t tested this shit in like 7 months

runic hinge
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okay so my kb doing 30% more damage won't spatter any more damage?

novel star
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yep

placid wave
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correct

runic hinge
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That doesn't make any sense

novel star
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just 30% more to prio target

keen spruce
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You should still shiv <8s remaining in kb

eager gazelle
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it is still best though because it is still more to your main target just to be clear

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you just dont get the aoe benefit too

placid wave
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because shiv isn't making your KB do 30% more damage, its making the one target with shiv take 30% more damage

west crown
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Wouldn’t arterial precision do this?

novel star
proven jasper
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Yes ap would

thorn fjord
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Let’s go gambling!

spice surge
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For pure Aoe you'd just not shiv if you dont have arterial

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But for prio damage obviously shiv is better

placid wave
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and the spatter dmg is calculated without the damage taken amp of the shiv on your main target

runic hinge
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That is the dumbest fucking interaction

proven jasper
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Yeah only ur prio target is taking the increased shiv dmg, doesnt tranfser thru spatter

placid wave
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yes

proven jasper
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yeah

placid wave
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it is dumb

novel star
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the way we talk about “dealing damage” in english seems like it would involve the start and end of the interaction

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but that’s not how the game works

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so it doesn’t work that way

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unlucky

keen spruce
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Wow pemdas is so fried sometimes ICANT

eager gazelle
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they would have to nerf spatter or KB if they let it transfer all that increased shiv damage, it would sky rocket our damage. obviously it feels weird that it doesn't work like that, but they don't just give us all that damage without taking something else away

knotty vapor
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I keep forgetting, is caustic spatter radius based on the target or your position?

placid wave
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yeah i mean for sure, it would just be nice if the interaction was more intuitively worded ingame

novel star
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target

knotty vapor
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kk ty

novel star
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also they should nerf spatter regardless

runic hinge
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Reported

keen spruce
novel star
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i too like being op but not at the cost of being well designed

crisp pine
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nerf spatter, give aura buff pls

novel star
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i’d love to lose spatter damage and become actually competitive in single target

novel star
keen spruce
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We are competitive in st hmmge

novel star
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not really

keen spruce
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I gotta start pulling the logs before the 10.2 change lol

balmy condor
# runic hinge That is the dumbest fucking interaction

Think about it like a ricocheting bullet right, if you shoot the bullet (envenom) and it hits a wall for 100 damage, it’ll ricochet to a chair and deal 45 damage. Now say the wall is taking 30% more damage, the bullet still hits it for 100, but it takes 30% more so it actually taking 130, but the ricochet is still only 45

runic hinge
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Yeah and that’s stupid

keen spruce
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Basically fking begging for better cleave

runic hinge
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Imo

balmy condor
novel star
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legit lol

west crown
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Bottom of the barrel. Aug is lower but you know, Aug

novel star
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exile was doing vile evil shit on kyveza to still deal balls damage by the end

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we suck

keen spruce
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I’ve been unplugged too long ig

novel star
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you can top meters if your group is just not as good at their class as you are at yours

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but that’s it

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no other situation

cobalt sphinx
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seems like you can play sub and top on mythic silken court and queen ansurek

balmy condor
novel star
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yea that’s how it’s supposed to look

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i wish my guild made shit look like that

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life would be so easy if people did dam

west crown
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300k dps behind and a 99 lol

keen spruce
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Skill issue tbh

balmy condor
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Top 10 parse btw

spice spire
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Which boss

keen spruce
balmy condor
knotty vapor
spice spire
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Why not #1 mister guidewriter

thorn fjord
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I was getting 98-99 parses and still 11th on meters

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is what it is lol

spice spire
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Wait the opposite

balmy condor
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I pulled it out of my hr channel from when I was malding on Tuesday

spice spire
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Guidrwriters suck at the game

west crown
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TLDR; do a million dps and you should be fine

keen spruce
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What was the justification for nerfing KB going into this xpac?

rotund oak
spice spire
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Also @balmy condor do you raid tn

keen spruce
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I wasn’t really paying attention during beta and stuff

balmy condor
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Yes

spice spire
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I have a GB

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Damn

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Nvm

balmy condor
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Ovi’nax prog

thorn fjord
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that

static glacier
west crown
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Rightly so

spice spire
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Ahhh I saw pao concerned earlier

spice spire
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About it

balmy condor
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About ovi’nax?

spice spire
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Yeah

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Brew on ovinax SmileDog

knotty vapor
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oh wtf ur on kj?

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lesgooo

novel star
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now show ur sikran damage charts whispah

slim pebble
balmy condor
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@balmy condor wait you’re on kj?

thorn fjord
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dude you're on kj?

knotty vapor
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darkdk#1

slim pebble
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I was behind didn’t realize someone asked

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My fault

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That was my old server

novel star
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what are the chances this whole area 52 restart thing actually fixes anything with the realms stability

keen spruce
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Bring back alliance whispyr

novel star
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gotta be less than 5% right

keen spruce
balmy condor
slim pebble
novel star
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weekend raiding is nice for that

west crown
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Yours and everyone else’s

novel star
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a52 has gone down every weekly reset so far

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i believe

spice spire
novel star
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i gotta get my big gay ass on an ally server now that i’m velf

spice spire
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Pao is the fucking man. He’s so funny

keen spruce
novel star
spice spire
novel star
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but money and/or wow token

keen spruce
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Trial for consequence so scana can call u a donkey

keen spruce
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Or just do some boosts NODDERS

novel star
buoyant schooner
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at what KS lvl does Hybrid starts being the better build?

spice spire
novel star
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ally realm would just give me a chat to read

urban trench
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!sims

prisma monolithBOT
novel star
keen spruce
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They did that finally

novel star
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yeah

keen spruce
lethal arrow
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can we get a rogue buff

runic hinge
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They’re not tuning until the race is over now

knotty vapor
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why do we suck so bad on first boss anyways

proven jasper
zealous wolf
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is it worth it to craft a 619 ring if min are bad?

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using the extra spark we got

spice spire
knotty vapor
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i noticed my dps tanks in intermission but I was confused as to why it was so bad

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still doing good splash with caustic

spice spire
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Shit falls over. If you’re bleeding up. You’re 2-3 globals into doing damage

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Before you do decent aoe

proven jasper
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Yeah some classes can just press a button and explode in aoe we have to ramp

knotty vapor
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i really do hate the ramp

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I wish we could just get caustic from mutilating while envenom buff is up or something

lethal arrow
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first boss downtime is long

knotty vapor
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it sucks having to find a target throw a rupture on

spice spire
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Caustic is already very good

knotty vapor
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it is

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but it's annoying

spice spire
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Making it better is MONKA

golden loom
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It feels so dumb to see caustic do most damage in every fight you take it already

knotty vapor
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yeah it feels broken

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its annoying to use and too strong

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satisfying as hell when shit lives for longer than 5 seconds

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but not so much elsewhere

golden loom
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Just give it the cleave/blade flurry sound effect so I actually feel it working

proven jasper
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It has a sound effect when it’s applied

knotty vapor
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not chunky enough

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i need to feel that shit

proven jasper
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Idk its kinda chunky

golden loom
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Does it have one for when its cleaving tho? Cause I havent noticed

proven jasper
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Big splurge sound

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Nah just when u apply it i think

knotty vapor
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nah it needs to be every proc

proven jasper
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So assa can lag even more pc’s? kekdog

golden loom
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Need to get a WA to have the classic cleave sound proc

knotty vapor
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maybe I'll make a weakaura

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yeah

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lmao

golden loom
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Got a weakaura that plays a lightsaber sound when darkest night procs OMEGAKEKW

knotty vapor
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my shit used to just talk to me

neat raptor
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what m+ setup do you guys use? for +7-+9

knotty vapor
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i made a bunch of tts clips

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it just told me how to play

zinc frost
neat raptor
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@zinc frost can you link me a code for the build plz

tawny pawn
golden loom
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I died laughing watching exile stream the race, all these crazy mechanics and his weakaura just goes "jump 3 times" for his trinket

tawny pawn
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rogue looking sage

regal estuary
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anyone had a bug where when u go to use bubbling wax it says ur weapon is too high level?

runic hinge
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!wax

prisma monolithBOT
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Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

  • If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
  • If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip
steel jay
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!wax

prisma monolithBOT
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Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

  • If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
  • If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip
thorn fjord
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is there a command for the upgrade table?

runic hinge
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!up

shy pecan
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!up

shy pecan
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Goddamnit

thorn fjord
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hell yeah ty

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lol

runic hinge
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Smoked both of you

steel jay
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tony too quick

shy pecan
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Nerd

runic hinge
runic hinge
queen cove
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Can someone explain to me how important it is and when we should focus on using Envenom with 50% or more energy?

thorn adder
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anyone have a script for plater that changes the color of a nameplate when caustic spatter is on the target?

crisp pine
primal quest
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i dont get why does my mates caustic splatter deal such high dmg, whats the right use of caustic splatter ? do i spam mutilate on 1 ruptured target to get it higher

crisp pine
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Whispyr doesn't want you to know about this but the thing is free, you can just take it with you
I have 357 recolor mods at home

queen egret
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!up

thorn adder
somber sparrow
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who's excited for feint to be off the GCD!? That's actually a dps increase

keen spruce
compact dew
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hello friends! does anyone have a wa or plater profile or something that reduces the amount debuffs you see on the target?

keen spruce
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
keen spruce
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Try these @compact dew

primal quest
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does it matter if i have caustic debuff up before or after dots and cds on target? does it bump up the splash dmg real time or should i reaplly caustic even if its already on

wary hare
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I apply garrote and rupture once or twice depending on 3/4 or 5/6 mobs then him muta on prio target and crimson tempest, then spam knives as generator and pump enven into prio target. Making sure to muta again before spatter wears off

compact dew
wary hare
#

Kb/shiv after caustic and CT to pump up the nature damage even more to spread

#

I’m no expert but I think the math favors that prio

potent dawn
primal quest
#

so no need to do mutilate on aoe on prio target unless its to reapply caustic debuff ?

wary hare
#

With all those ruptures you get flooded with energy to spam

#

Yea knives is a better generator that muta I think for 3+ targets. Maybe 2+ im not totally sure. Granted you have CT talents

royal lantern
#

thats some r/wow kinda take

proven jasper
#

Huge dps increase

#

Saving a global

royal lantern
#

that entire thing is such a small QoL change

proven jasper
royal lantern
#

and people act as if its the biggest thing in wow history

proven jasper
#

its nice dont get me wrong but like

royal lantern
#

its insane

proven jasper
#

ya

#

lmfao

novel star
#

feel wise its huge

#

but thats just feelies

keen spruce
#

It really doesn’t make a difference for Assas except for the feels

proven jasper
#

Huge feelies

keen spruce
#

But losing globals during dance for sub is big saddies

#

So it’ll be nice for the other specs

#

And tbh, defensives just shouldn’t be on the gcd

tall jay
#

!Craft

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

keen spruce
#

Getting gcd locked knowing you’re about to get pummeled by a mechanic feels bad

somber sparrow
keen spruce
#

Since those globals are so precious to Assas as we afk waiting for envenom to run down

wary hare
#

When is the next patch going live?

#

When can I take SnD off my bars 😓

crisp pine
#

Just take it off your bars now

#

Get an edge on all those other rogues

drifting cloud
#

4-6 weeks

wary hare
#

Like 90% of the time it’s a one and done for an m+ but if there’s a wipe or something silly it’s just an annoying cp waster (and I forget sometimes)

clever perch
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
fleet pagoda
coral ibex
#

being alive is a dps increase, more opportunities to press feint is good

shell ivy
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
floral vale
#

For ovinax mythic, we don’t spread ruptures at all right since we don’t play scent of blood?

fleet pagoda
#

most feints I've put out so far is like 65 in a CoT 10, I feel like I get to press it enough. i just like the resource management side of feint on gcd

#

it's such a powerful defensive baseline, feels over the top losing a tradeoff to being able to access it

limber abyss
#

what's the play with our 90 crests this week?

#

(gilded)

keen spruce
#

It just doesn’t make a big difference to assas

acoustic roost
fleet pagoda
strange python
#

I'm trying to sim as if I have the emergency neck from stonevault but it's not simming at the right ilvl. Anyone see something wrong in the code?

#

specifically
"# "Emergency Stop" Keychain (619)
neck=,id=221077,gem_id=213458/213743,bonus_id=42/10355/10262/1520/10255/10395/10879"

fleet pagoda
#

I can see some people (me, i suck) running out of energy and not being able to press it, or activating the new tea threshold accidently, as a result of not needing to pay much attention to the gcd side of it

spice surge
#

Just add it via the topgear search

#

Dont bother with changing some IDs and stuff

deft vault
#

!plater

prisma monolithBOT
strange python
balmy condor
#

I doubt that

#

heavily doubt that

strange python
#

I want to run a dropoptimizer sim with the neck on

balmy condor
#

yeah that's easy

strange python
#

aight how do i do it?

spice surge
#

Do a topgear

balmy condor
#

I'll record it np

nocturne sorrel
#

Hey all. I don't feel like my dps is that great. I'm ilvl 606 and I think I'm doing my rotation correctly. I followed the Method/IcyVeins guides as well.
What am I missing?

acoustic roost
#

Do you have logs

#

There’s no way for anybody to know what you’re doing

balmy condor
nocturne sorrel
#

Sadly not at the moment. I'll grab some and get it here.

strange python
#

thank you!

balmy condor
#

np

hexed frost
# primal quest i dont get why does my mates caustic splatter deal such high dmg, whats the righ...

Understanding caustic is the key to absolutely mogging dps meters in keys and sending those palas and shamans crying for buffs peepoNotes

Caustic splatters a portion of your nature damage onto your nearby targets, so here's the catch (an obvious one though), the more nature damage your prio target takes, the more caustic splatters onto your nearby mobs, and hence big damage. Surebud

Bleeds are a maintanence buff, you apply them and forget about them, and don't worry about min maxxing it. Even if running scent, applying 2 ruptures out of stealth means 6 stacks. Applying 3-4 garrotes means 9 mobs having empowered garrotes running, which is huge. That's like first 5-6 seconds of a pull.

Now, coming back to caustic, you mutilate once and make sure that for the next 8 seconds, your prio target takes as much nature damage as possible.

1> Deathmark is up because it duplicates everything
2> Kingsbane is up with tea for mastery (more nature damage)
3>Spam FoK into envenoms as much as possible. (More envenoms = More nature damage)
4>Use shiv for the last 8 seconds of kingsbane for more nature damage (this is where kingsbane hits the hardest)
5>Reapply splatter and continue, keeping up the bleeds

Ideally your splatter should be top 2 sources of damage overall, other one being envenom or garrote. sin

Where people mess up their splatter windows:-

1>De-syncing DM and KB.
2>Applying KB on a mob which will die way before kingsbane runs out (like in 5 seconds or less)
3>Wasting splatter windows to apply bleeds (it should be up before)
4>Forgetting to reapply splatter

calm nymph
#

Anyone bored enough to look at some logs?

calm nymph
#

Not getting the damage of assas I thought I would 😮‍💨

haughty verge
#

!tricks

prisma monolithBOT
#

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
hexed frost
#

Sorry my dog wrote this

#

nvm it was a cat

balmy condor
#

but also if it's like a 93 and you're mad it's not a 99

#

I'm gonna beat your shit viciously

calm nymph
#

It’s in the purples/blues

runic hinge
calm nymph
#

So definitely a lot of room for improvement

shy pecan
runic hinge
#

Bested you again Edward

balmy condor
#

log

shy pecan
runic hinge
#

I know why I’m getting 93’s and not 99’s and it’s fine. I’m just happy boss dead

keen spruce
#

Stop donowalling me in stream plz

midnight mist
#

sorry too many chatters no cap cant read trough it all

subtle tundra
#

zac

#

why are

keen spruce
subtle tundra
#

xac...

midnight mist
#

vara

subtle tundra
#

favorite cheese?

midnight mist
#

Comté

bleak sun
#

600 ilvl 2P zug zug

drifting cloud
#

if I get a parry on my kb, does it show in the dmg breakdown under miss % ?

runic hinge
#

Defenses I think

#

Should tho

subtle tundra
tight condor
#

Anyone far into mythic brood that has some logs I can spy on for cd timings?

cunning basin
#

"nah I ain't doin this pull"

tight condor
#

From pull?

#

Or wait till first adds

spice surge
#

Second dm can be delayed like 2-3 seconds if youre struggling with those adds but idk they just die instantly for us

#

Yes send on pull

drifting cloud
#

Eleem is sub going to be alot worse on last 2 bosses after this patch goes live

#

since with this tuning looks like were all still gonna be progging

spice surge
#

On court probably ye

shy pecan
#

I believe

drifting cloud
#

court likely, not so sure about queen xla

shy pecan
spice surge
#

But idk, im like 99.9999% sure new ER is gonna be bugged and not work with either shadowed finishers or secret technique

waxen oyster
#

didnt exile play sin on court

spice surge
#

just like 100% of all the other things they add

waxen oyster
#

already

spice surge
#

Idk everything is just designed to be as wonky as possible for sub so everything always bugs

waxen oyster
#

wdym i love still using talents that got removed in the beta

spice surge
#

Like if sub had its bugs fixed it would gain like 8-9% on ST and like 15%+ on aoe

viral spire
#

Why the fuck

waxen oyster
#

which sub bug?

#

the dn prevents dsm consumption?

viral spire
#

Can bosses still parry shit like kb

#

Cd skills should be 100% hit tbh

ivory flower
#

Yeah

midnight mist
viral spire
#

Its literally dumb

spice surge
# waxen oyster the dn prevents dsm consumption?

That one ye, darkest night not working with shadowed finishers, sectech not working with lingering or blades, coup cdr not working, nimble being 40% and also not working with blades, replicating doing like 20% less damage than it should and causing shadowcraft refund delays

keen spruce
waxen oyster
#

what is coup cdr

spice surge
#

As in, its grants 7 cp worth of cdr, not 12

#

cdr and energy from relentless strikes

#

Also the new ER doesnt work for sub on the ptr yet either

#

So surely it works with everything come release clueless

waxen oyster
#

do you even play replicating

#

in raid

proven jasper
#

Hell no

spice surge
#

You would if it wasnt bugged

waxen oyster
#

Ok that's one bug i dont need to care about

balmy condor
midnight mist
#

wtf is nutty cheese

#

like hard cheese or what

balmy condor
#

like comte has nut flavor

frigid pilot
#

98 avg in heroic without PI

keen spruce
midnight mist
#

nut

balmy condor
#

or uh

#

gouda

midnight mist
#

no wae

balmy condor
#

is also a very nutty cheese

keen spruce
#

Smoked gouda very nutty

midnight mist
#

there are no nuts in my cheese

#

you do you tho

keen spruce
#

Not actual nuts

midnight mist
#

I dont judge !

keen spruce
midnight mist
balmy condor
#

gruyere is creamy

#

not nutty

#

emmental is earthy

#

etc

subtle tundra
#

god how i want some cheese platter

keen spruce
#

Mozzarella fresh creamy
Parmesan nutty

midnight mist
#

I think

balmy condor
#

beaufort is nutty

midnight mist
#

comte > reblochon

#

emental is also good

balmy condor
keen spruce
#

Brie gud

midnight mist
#

i dont like the blue fuckers tho

balmy condor
#

reblochon is very nutty aftertaste I think

#

haven't had in a while

#

good cheese though

midnight mist
#

brie !

subtle tundra
#

what the fuck is a nutty cheese

#

nah id win

midnight mist
#

do you guys even eat real cheese

subtle tundra
#

no cause shits expensive probably and its not part of my culture

balmy condor
#

reblochon is similar to camembert right

keen spruce
#

Buratta s-tier cheese

royal lantern
midnight mist
#

reblochon

#

but idk

balmy condor
#

mm

#

yeah

midnight mist
#

im not a big cheese conoiseur either

balmy condor
#

it's hard to find reblochon here

limber lion
#

You literally do not...

midnight mist
#

yiou guys asking the wrong guy no cap

#

im just french

#

so i have the basics

limber lion
#

Might wanna read what the talent does

subtle tundra
#

i eat the cheapest and most protein packed cheese i find in the store

fading dune
subtle tundra
#

dont care about taste or how it feels(mostly)

midnight mist
#

altough its a bit rarer now i guess

limber lion
#

Nice npnp

fading dune
#

Can I safely run double vers pvp embellishment as assa? To help me survive more

balmy condor
keen spruce
#

My goat

balmy condor
balmy condor
midnight mist
#

bro sent cheese under wrap 💀

#

wtf is this

keen spruce
#

He doesn’t know ICANT

#

About the singles

subtle tundra
waxen oyster
balmy condor
#

plastic cheese

waxen oyster
#

Pretty sure when you're being focused you're below 80% hp

royal lantern
#

only used for that

#

and its shit

#

💀

waxen oyster
#

Not like rogue is a good kill target

#

unless you're dumdum

balmy condor
royal lantern
#

hm?

midnight mist
#

doesnt look like raclette cheese

balmy condor
#

don't you use swiss cheese for raclette?>

waxen oyster
#

Well ngl feint off gcd is a bigger deal

#

than any of the other november changes we're getting

keen spruce
#

American craft singles are not raclette

royal lantern
#

the place is cursed

balmy condor
#

????????

midnight mist
restive falcon
midnight mist
#

american cheese

keen spruce
#

Yeah but close enough

royal lantern
blazing jewel
#

📈

keen spruce
#

Still the best cheese to put on. Burger

fading dune
balmy condor
midnight mist
#

wtf

proven jasper
#

Bro cmon

midnight mist
#

thats

waxen oyster
#

pretty sure pvpers play ascension

blazing jewel
midnight mist
#

so american

balmy condor
#

and then each one is wrapped individually

keen spruce
#

Enough plastic to wipe out a whole tribe of sea turtles

blazing jewel
#

NO ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS

balmy condor
#

it's actually full america-core

fading dune
balmy condor
#

god had no hand in making kraft singles

fading dune
#

I’m new to rogue. Never played before a week ago

spice spire
#

You guys don’t even know how American cheese is made Smdh

blazing jewel
#

“Is that cheese processed”

keen spruce
#

It’s processed but it ain’t cheese

waxen oyster
#

idk all big name pvp rogs play sub

keen spruce
waxen oyster
#

since its better

balmy condor
#

@midnight mist have you heard of velveeta

midnight mist
#

nope

storm forum
#

Whispyr no

balmy condor
#

AHAHAHA

blazing jewel
keen spruce
#

Velvetta a truly cursed creation

proven jasper
#

LMFAOO

balmy condor
#

BEHOLD THE CHEESE BLOCK

royal lantern
#

WHAT THE FUCK

proven jasper
#

americans dont even like velveeta

blazing jewel
keen spruce
#

It melts

royal lantern
#

what the actuall fuck is that

balmy condor
#

MHMMM YUMMY VELVEETA

keen spruce
#

At room temperature

royal lantern
#

that looks like rancid butter

#

jesus

keen spruce
#

It’s more like a butter

spice spire
#

Velveeta is not actual cheese

storm forum
#

You can get it in a spray bottle too if that's more your style

proven jasper
#

Its basically cheese butter

royal lantern
blazing jewel
#

You put it on macaroni and stir it until it is no longer block shaped

spice spire
#

American is literally just shredded cheese mixed with sodium citrate

#

You fools

proven jasper
#

YO CHEESE IN A CAN

royal lantern
#

what is wrong with you UK rejects OMEGAKEKW

spice spire
#

It knowing your food chemistry

balmy condor
#

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO

#

AMERICA CORE

proven jasper
spice spire
#

Dog this isn’t even the worst bit

blazing jewel
keen spruce
#

Unironically American cheese is only correct cheese for burger tho

balmy condor
keen spruce
#

As nasty as it is

balmy condor
#

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAA

#

FREEDOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM

spice spire
#

Subway bread was under lawsuit because it was made with the same material used to make gym mats

keen spruce
#

In all other applications

spice spire
#

?

proven jasper
#

yeah but what about the lead filled lunchables

#

delicious

keen spruce
spice spire
#

This also isn’t like ancient history, it was 2014

keen spruce
#

I don’t want bread on my feet while I’m stretching

blazing jewel
#

I do

keen spruce
royal lantern
#

im so happy to be in a country that is not the US rn

spice spire
#

It’s just used as a whitening agent for the bread + cereal from GM iirc

balmy condor
#

what about the shells and cheese cause they aren't legally allowed to call it "mac and cheese" since it's neither mac, nor cheese, so they had to copyright "shells and cheese" as its own thing and then note that it's not actually cheese OMEGAKEKWMAN

#

CHEESE PRODUCT

#

YEAH BABY

spice spire
#

American cheese is one of the most inoffensive things we process

#

Velveeta is an abomination

#

And I’d say light it on fire

#

But I don’t think you can

subtle tundra
#

nah im sorry for starting this

proven jasper
#

Seriously i dont know a single person that actually has ever eaten velveeta

subtle tundra
#

hahahaha

balmy condor
spice spire
#

I’ve definitely eaten it

blazing jewel
#

I’m going to process quake until he comes out as a cheese “product”

balmy condor
#

that's what we like to see

keen spruce
#

I’m certain that a primary ingredient in velveta is Elmer’s glue and you can’t convince me otherwise

spice spire
#

Not by choice

spice spire
#

Smegma or whatever

gloomy otter
#

hey how do i sim my character if he were another race? i saw last time in here someone posted mechagnome did more dps?

spice spire
#

Radicals

blazing jewel
pure moth
#

^

keen spruce
#

MOBILE

pure moth
#

Excuses

spice spire
#

Racials don’t matter a ton though that’s real

keen spruce
#

MY FINGIES ARENT AS NIMBLE AS THEY USED TO BE

blazing jewel
round spire
#

guys for m+ boost and push which embellishmen the dawn embellishment or crit embellishment

proper hare
gloomy otter
#

but does mechagnome have something special or was it a joke dad they do more dmg?

cloud basin
#

if i wanted a log review what do i link? My character page?? I parse well but im just trying to see if there are slight improvements i can make besides gear

blazing jewel
round spire
#

guys for m+ boost and push which embellishmen the dawn embellishment or crit embellishment pls helpp

spice spire
gloomy otter
#

aight tyty

spice spire
#

!craft

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

spice spire
#

Fuck

blazing jewel
#

100

proper hare
#

Mechagnome is best for raids yes due to the passive damage increase or whatever the fuck it is. But who the fuck wanna look like a mechagnome willingly

spice spire
#

@blazing jewel because he’s one irl

blazing jewel
storm forum
#

If ur a mechagnome you gotta spend a lot on those enchants or whatever that let you be another race

languid pier
cloud basin
languid pier
proper hare
keen spruce
balmy condor
blazing jewel
languid pier
spring moat
#

!craft

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

balmy condor
spice spire
#

Gonna retire my ass

languid pier
blazing jewel
#

@balmy condor throwback to when you changed off vulpera for sark because that race was actual dog water

balmy condor
#

cause you have to level 6 rogues

keen spruce
languid pier
proper hare
blazing jewel
#

Bag of tricks lookin mf

balmy condor
blazing jewel
keen spruce
spice spire
#

Man hadn’t touched grass in months

royal lantern
languid pier
balmy condor
#

we got the hundo though

#

so

languid pier
#

Mop remix was good

balmy condor
#

fuck you

blazing jewel
#

I am going to come back as an eu import player and join @royal lantern s guild

spring moat
#

dawnthread embellishment right?

proper hare
#

I play orc so I’m a basic bitch, might change to Tauren just because it’s funny af

spice spire
#

Ye

royal lantern
keen spruce
#

I miss going into whispyr’s steam and telling him they wouldn’t have wiped if he wasn’t playing vulpeera smile_dog

royal lantern
#

vacations on tier start are cursed

balmy condor
languid pier
balmy condor
languid pier
#

They gonna be al 80 and more with that 5% per 80 ^^

balmy condor
#

fuck you ryler

blazing jewel
languid pier
spice spire
balmy condor
#

I wasn't even there for the kill

#

and I know exactly what that number is

spice spire
#

575 bdk xla

languid pier
#

Maplestory ≠ sanity

blazing jewel
#

The classic consequence comp of no monk buff no windfury for sark prog AINTNOWAY

spice spire
#

It’s when he’s the happiest

blazing jewel
#

That was a nightmare

spice spire
#

Because he’s free

keen spruce
#

Mushroom game gud

languid pier
#

Told ya

spice spire
drifting cloud
#

12k this guy never closes it

spice spire
#

Reroll that playtime

blazing jewel
spice spire
#

Jesus Christ

waxen oyster
#

my favorite part is when the rl asks what specs you playing per boss

languid pier
waxen oyster
#

"Idk they all suck this tier"

balmy condor
#

dawn warrior

languid pier
keen spruce
spice spire
#

Talk your shit ‼️

balmy condor
blazing jewel
drifting cloud
#

has maple always been on steam or

spice spire
languid pier
waxen oyster
#

realize still low on meter

balmy condor
waxen oyster
#

die

royal lantern
balmy condor
#

no time for wapping SAD

languid pier
waxen oyster
#

also yk whats the worst

balmy condor
#

yeah I mean ofc I should

spice spire
balmy condor
#

wapping brother

waxen oyster
#

not having another 613 in a trinket/ring slot

keen spruce
languid pier
waxen oyster
#

so you dont want to waste runeds

#

upgrading items from 606

balmy condor
languid pier
royal lantern
balmy condor
#

WAP WAP WAP WAP

waxen oyster
#

i think my neck is 610

languid pier
balmy condor
#

that 20% drop got me my berserked hold your tongue

languid pier
#

also need meso/drop rate gear to make it work

spice spire
#

You two gonna fuck or?

shy pecan
#

Nerds

keen spruce
#

On topic thumbsup

thorn torrent
#

whispyr - are we going double duskweave emb. or ascendance + nerub?

cloud basin
spice spire
round spire
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guys on dungeon ascension is so bad or it can be good ?

balmy condor
spice spire
cloud basin
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but i def need better gear as im missing Skardyns kik

spice spire
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!craft

prisma monolithBOT
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Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

spice spire
shy pecan
round spire
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ascencion and dawnthread is it bad

spice spire
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Oh shit you fat weaved too?

balmy condor
spice spire
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Hell yeah

balmy condor
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go for it

round spire
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or writhing and dawnthread

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XD

languid pier
balmy condor
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okay well that doesn't make sense

round spire
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im not above %80 at the dungeons

balmy condor
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cause dawnthread is not a nerubian enchant

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tone down the crazy

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just a bit

shy pecan
spice spire
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The squat bit is real tho

waxen oyster
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what is skardyn's

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im using funny kobold candle

spice spire
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At least they fixed it

shy pecan
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Trinkets don’t exist

blazing jewel
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@balmy condor what’s my stat prio

languid pier
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(u are still my friend)

spice spire
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660 squat (iirc) would be impressive

balmy condor
drifting cloud
blazing jewel
spice spire
languid pier
balmy condor
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the K stands for Krit

languid pier
blazing jewel
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Big crit