assassination

[stark scroll]

I am melee warlock

[tropic tundra]

i want to get invited like a lock

[hasty viper]

I understand what you're trying to get at, but assassination damage currently is much more focused on active damage rather than dot

It's deffo not a melee warlock

[fresh harness]

oh yeah I get that, I mean, it is dot based and melee

[hasty viper]

So is feral

[fresh harness]

like your mastery is about bleed and poison

which are dot

[polar timber]

i cant imagine i just came into the discord saying we should get buffed and got flamed holy some people just wanna be weak eh thats insane

[drifting lance]

assassination is beast mastery because its braindead easy and ur pet is kingsbane

[stark scroll]

what other classes do you think should get buffed

?

[polar timber]

just rogue

[stark scroll]

I think they should buff frost dk and fury

[hasty viper]

Probably Arcane mage and fury warrior

[stark scroll]

oh yes

i forgot arcane

arcan fury enhance frost

[polar timber]

show me a boss a rogue is good at

pls

[stark scroll]

need boss

[stark scroll]

ok

[fickle lotus]

Court

[polar timber]

show me one boss with a rogue on the top 10

[royal lantern]

@fresh harness allright, in case you are a bit confused

no, assa is not "doesnt lose dmg for downtimes", if anything its one of the more punished specs for extended downtimes

the far majority of the dmg is envenom, which means actually attacking

[drifting lance]

we are not top so we are bottom mentality

[nova aspen]

if ur not first, ur last!

[mint urchin]

Still better then outlaw! lol

[fresh harness]

Ah yeah, you're the math guy ruining my casual ideas right

[polar timber]

were talking about mythic here

[royal lantern]

yes, outlaw/sub are worse with downtimes, but that doesnt mean that assa is not punished for it, outlaw/sub are just the probably most downtime unfriedly specs in the game

[stark scroll]

I think we are good at broodtwister

[royal lantern]

CDr is a curse

[royal lantern]

lol

[mint urchin]

Downtime on outlaw just hurts your soul

[stark scroll]

shhhh

shhhh

hahahahah

[royal lantern]

rogue on broodtwister mythic is "you hit the boss and hope the real classes kill stuff"

[polar timber]

ya

[fickle lotus]

Downtime is bad which is why I hold cloak to cheese mechanics to stay on the boss for longer like bloodhorror 🙂

[fallow canopy]

[polar timber]

do less st than frost and 1 mil less aoe

good at brood is insane

[hasty viper]

Just because there is no rogue in top 10 on bosses doesn't mean that assasination is not one of the best specs

[polar timber]

okay if there is more than 5 rogues in the top 100 on any publicly logged bosses lmk

[stark scroll]

rashanan

[hasty viper]

I'd much rather be in the top 25% than in top 5% and knowing you'll get hit hard by nerfs

[polar timber]

lets widen the scope

[reef isle]

!wa

[royal lantern]

yeha sorry, im just trying to explain why your thought there is not really correct

[stark scroll]

probably only real answer

[reef isle]

wa!

wtf where is it

[minor gate]

That SnD Change is gonna put us in the big leagues

[royal lantern]

like, if you wanna see the big downtime dmg of assa, walk up to a dmg dummy, put garrote+rupture on it out of stealth and then stop doing anything, cus thats all that happens

[fresh harness]

I mean you are probably right, just felt like a dot based class at first glance. Interesting to know it's not the case

[polar timber]

okay sure you can have the meme fight that starts at 60% so were in execute half the time

[fickle lotus]

ya'll are able to get out of combat with a target dummy??

[stark scroll]

thank you

[polar timber]

anyways we suck pls buff

[royal lantern]

wow doesnt really have "real" dot classes anymore

"dot class" translates into "dots generate resources/dmg for burst abilitys"

[stark scroll]

what would you like to buff

?

buff all abilities by 10% seems like a good start

[royal lantern]

assa, feral, spriest and affliction are all the same in that regard

[hasty viper]

Beat me to it

[fallen arch]

Sure sounds like a good idea

[minor gate]

The issue is when the team wants YOU to go and deal with the straggler adds

[hasty viper]

Braincells buff would be huge

I need one

[stark scroll]

he has one braincell left before he is dead

[royal lantern]

no, we share it, dont be greedy

[stark scroll]

ROGUE BAD AT RAID RAAARRTGGGGGG I WANT BUFF

[fallen arch]

If this is ur metric idk what to tell you

[polar timber]

whats ur metric

[stark scroll]

who cares i am quite content doing mythics

[polar timber]

like do you want us to heal the boss idk what you consider a good dmg dealer

[dapper cradle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bYPUKtCiSk

[fickle lotus]

praying my guild gets to mythic prog this week man I'm so miserable stuck on heroic queen

[hasty viper]

Waaaah, I am only one of the best specs, other specs are better, buff me so we then get nerfed into oblivion

[royal lantern]

mate, every class is repesented because every class has a unique buff/debuff

thats why they exists lol

[minor gate]

I actually want a GOOD non-lethal poison

Like something with value

[reef oxide]

atropic not good?

[polar timber]

best specs is insane

[novel dock]

!bis

[gritty laurel]

bis is a lie, sim yourself

[novel dock]

!fu

[minor gate]

Atrophic is very gimmicky as you find some fights are entirely uneffected by it

[stark scroll]

what the fuck

hahahaha

[novel dock]

enchant too expansive wanna make sure :p

[royal lantern]

saying assa is 1 of the best specs is insane btw lol

idk what you are smoking

[fickle lotus]

Doesn't atrophic still x2 stack with two rogues?

[minor gate]

No

[stark scroll]

I would say sin is a top 20 spec

[royal lantern]

yes

[stark scroll]

do you disagree?

[subtle tundra]

a top 38 fo so

[royal lantern]

they fix that interaction when it becomes relevant once

[cinder quartz]

sin is one of the specs you can pick in world of warcraft 🔥

[stark scroll]

just need trickster assasin rogue

turn envenom

[minor gate]

Ew

[stark scroll]

into coup de envenom

[royal lantern]

no pls, i dont wanna auto charge

[stark scroll]

I like the auto charge

charge into my death

as it should be

[polar timber]

top 20 dps specs LOL

[stark scroll]

yes

[polar timber]

thats like bottom 10%

[hasty viper]

If I say that we get giga nerfed and then get buffed after, win-win secnario

[minor gate]

Deathstalker is gonna be clunky with the anima charge changes, no?

[stark scroll]

out of all the dps specs i would say we are one of them

[iron carbon]

Hey, any raiders here? On Ansurek, We agree Toxic Spatter is there for roots and maybe P3 adds?

[dapper cradle]

double vanish chads stay winning

[royal lantern]

will be less flowing yeha

[royal lantern]

yes?

[stark scroll]

tbh i was thinking about this last night

[royal lantern]

what else lol

[minor gate]

We are most certainly a dps spec at the moment

[stark scroll]

as i had a prot warrior who just pulled the entire stonevault dungeon without stopping and i didnt get one re stealth

[dapper cradle]

i can see his point being valid in like giga uber high keys

[stark scroll]

i was like maybe double vanish for this dungeon is th emove

[royal lantern]

check the Pins

[iron carbon]

Useless P2 adds

[dapper cradle]

where packs live +45 secs

[thorny crown]

Do we have a channel for log reviews? New to assa and want to know if someone can check how to improve 😛

[stark scroll]

but i ahave been running stonevault over and over thinking skardyns grace dropped there

then i finally checked last night

and was like WTF?

[hasty viper]

Oh that's rough

[royal lantern]

@spice spire THE LOGS CALL FOR YOU

[dapper cradle]

my 606 skardyn's still simming higher than 619 trinkets

sick

[stark scroll]

skardyns grace i will have you

[polar timber]

just for reference theres like 26 dps specs

[hasty viper]

In vault at the end of the season?

[polar timber]

so ya ill give top 20 to you

[stark scroll]

i will have a 623 skardyns grace next tuesday

[polar timber]

like spot 20 is perfect for sin

[hasty viper]

I believe

[stark scroll]

and rogue buffs

[minor gate]

Whysper needs to add a talent tree to the wowhead called “for playing with “those tanks””

[stark scroll]

hahahah

ahhaahha

your fucking name

[minor gate]

And it’s just double vanish

[stark scroll]

hahahaha

[fallen arch]

U can play double vanish

Who’s stopping yoy

[stark scroll]

gala

he said our problem is not double vanish

its that we have no good bosses

so we need 20% overalll ability buff

so we can be best at all boss

[spice spire]

Bruh

[polar timber]

i mean ill take 10%

[spice spire]

I already have one in the chamber

[stark scroll]

@hasty viper

[fallen arch]

Ur coping

[polar timber]

were actually pretty good in keys thats one thing ill give you guys

[minor gate]

With out shadow dance, garrotte has no punchline

[stark scroll]

10% good with you?

[minor gate]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-sad-tear-cry-batman-the-animated-series-gif-27307833

[hasty viper]

Yeah sounds good

[spice spire]

@thorny crown post

[stark scroll]

ok

sounds good too

[hasty viper]

I'll agree with that

[spice spire]

Are you guys okay

[hasty viper]

But I still want to buff Fury warriors, can we do that too?

[stark scroll]

i watch a video

critki

or something

[polar timber]

do you guys think fury is op or something im not tracking this meme

[normal mist]

I was wondering the same

[stark scroll]

this guy was crying about fury

[polar timber]

that spec got fucking nuked

[stark scroll]

WHAT THE FUCK??????????

HAHAHAHAHAH

[normal mist]

But didn't want to interrupt

[fallow canopy]

10% seems like an insane buff

[thorny crown]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/stormscale/luddsin#boss=2898

this one the only one that got logged today for some reason
@spice spire

[stark scroll]

anhahhaahahha

[polar timber]

you guys have to be normal raiders this is insane

[stark scroll]

I do lfr

[minor gate]

Not gonna lie the dps warriors specs confuse me

[stark scroll]

only lfr

i am lfr main

[hasty viper]

I do raids from previous expansions

[stark scroll]

raid captain lfr

[cinder quartz]

fury had doggie boss damage, huge aoe padders

[stark scroll]

and time walking

[minor gate]

Why does fury have 2 2-handers

[stark scroll]

lol

[minor gate]

And not

You know

[normal mist]

Why are we having arguments about warriors in sin channel?

[minor gate]

Arms

[hasty viper]

Cuz Fury=Strong

Arms=Noodle arms or smth idk

[stark scroll]

he has my trinket

[stark scroll]

who is

we talking about melee warlcoks

[hasty viper]

Yes but if we ask for buffs for warriors then they'll get nerfed cuz blizz doesn't like us

[spice spire]

@normal mist

[hasty viper]

And fuck dem warriors

[minor gate]

Cause my guilds warrior is fucking annoying

[thorny crown]

Got ara from 3/3 7+ runs

[stark scroll]

nice work

[hasty viper]

Preach

[stark scroll]

I got ara my first +3 run and it has been a ghost town since

no daggers

no skardyns grace( i was in the wrong dungeon)

[spice spire]

Dagger? I hardly know her

[stark scroll]

i am using a green dagger

[normal mist]

Luddsing log review

[mint urchin]

Same, only my ara was heroic 😦

[minor gate]

It’s nice being the only rogue in the raid team

[stark scroll]

I do like being only rogue

[minor gate]

Dagger are basically free

[hasty viper]

Yeah, I got a Hero dagger on reclear yesterday, being the only one feels nice

[stark scroll]

If i run a heroic

to try to get a dagger

i will fuck my greatvault

so i can teven run them

i just have to mythic till i get one

or find out how to craft something

I tried to pay chinese people to make me one

and all they sell is mounts

nad gold

[fickle lotus]

???

[stark scroll]

im like i will send you 400 dollars

just make me a fucking dagger

[polar timber]

craft a dagger

[minor gate]

*gold

[stark scroll]

this is what they saiid 早上好中国 现在我有冰淇淋 我很喜欢冰淇淋 但是 速度与激情9 比冰淇淋 速度与激情 速度与激情9 我最喜欢

[mint urchin]

@minor gate He has to send them the $$ to get the gold first

[stark scroll]

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN

[clear nexus]

thoughts on Atrocitys UI

[minor gate]

Bruh

[clear nexus]

it looks really nice, i wanna buy it

[stark scroll]

no

i mean dollars

[clear nexus]

is it simple to reconfigure

[stark scroll]

i want to pay cash fo rsomeone to make me a dagger with their mats

[hasty viper]

Do you want like, a real one?

[stark scroll]

no

lol

[hasty viper]

I think you should get a real one

I heard that daggers irl are top tier melee weapons

[minor gate]

Ngl they kinda cooked with the dagger from princess

[stark scroll]

what does it look like

[hasty viper]

Regicide?

[stark scroll]

i need it

yeah regirock

[thick juniper]

Hello! Tier legs or Mandate(trinket) to 619?

[minor gate]

Yeah

[stark scroll]

regiice

regiice

[normal mist]

Are there no blacksmiths in your server?

[stark scroll]

registeel

[minor gate]

The other raid one

[normal mist]

Sim

[hasty viper]

I would guess they don't take cash, only gold

And he wants to pay cash

[normal mist]

I mean

[stark scroll]

i have unlimited gold

i just dont know how crafting works

[hasty viper]

Then pay them gold instead of cash

[minor gate]

You take the handle away and it look like a melted Swiss Army knife

[normal mist]

You can just ask for help

[stark scroll]

i need badges or something

[normal mist]

And we could explain

[hasty viper]

Oh wait you're like for real? I thought you were memeing, we can help

[stark scroll]

i want to buy the best one i can get

[normal mist]

Rogues help rogues man

[hasty viper]

Hard to guess what is sarcasm over here

[normal mist]

True

[stark scroll]

lool

I have all the mats to make it other than i dont know what the embellishments and infusions and secodnary stats are

[coral ibex]

does anyone know what mog whispyr uses for his daggers

[stark scroll]

or a spark

[royal lantern]

!wa

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[polar timber]

do you have a picture

[stark scroll]

I want to get one thats good

not 580

[normal mist]

It depends on the crests you have

Runed crests can get you a 519 dagger

[stark scroll]

These are the crests I make through enchanting?

[coral ibex]

best i got haha sorry

[stark scroll]

I have 100 enchanting

[polar timber]

i think its one of the kingslayer

[stark scroll]

and all the crest recipes

[coral ibex]

just watching a vid of his and was wondering

[polar timber]

things

maybe the pvp one

[normal mist]

Yeah that's assa legion dagger, probably the hidden appearance

[hasty viper]

Spark you get 1 per 2 weeks, it's what you use to craft high ilvl pieces. Secondary stats are usually random, but you can buy reagents that guarantee specific stats. Embelishments are special reagents that you put in and give you a special ability on gear, I don't remember what the bis dagger embelishment is called but it's 100% on wowhead

[polar timber]

from honor ranks

[fickle lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-ants-gif-4699381

[coral ibex]

its from a 1440p video!!!

[polar timber]

i think hidden was the bone one

and the mage tower was the glowy one

[normal mist]

Yeah hidden is the bone one

[coral ibex]

cool, i just got the outlaw legion legendary so ill have to go get the assa daggers

thanks

[stark scroll]

probably want haste mastery on it

[simple gulch]

does anyone have a mouseover garrote macro that will hit your target if you dont have it over something it can garrote? i got the rupture one to work but garrote does not. is there a reason for that? perhaps a mechanic i'm unaware of?

[normal mist]

There's one enchanted crest you can create that has a max range on the created item of 639(?) or something along those lines

[polar timber]

636

[coral ibex]

it should be the same as any other mouseover macro

[polar timber]

itll probably still be good in your offhand even if you make one and get a 639

[normal mist]

Absolutely

[normal mist]

Especially if he only raids so he can go ascension

[coral ibex]

use the exists tag

[polar timber]

although they should make ascension work like signet brand shits cringe in keys

but that would be a buff and skollz hates that

[coral ibex]

similar to my shadowstep macro

hm why does it have 2 @target's

[polar timber]

tbh blizz just has a setting for mouseover

that does this

[stark scroll]

ok

[fickle lotus]

love using this because sometimes I'll try to step to a raid member and just end up standing there because i'm out of ranging spamming the macro so I just to mechanics while everyone watches me

[stark scroll]

easy enough

[polar timber]

just have to be careful not to mouseover envenom

[simple gulch]

it does but then i have to fix all my keybinds as shift alt and ctrl all do shit

[coral ibex]

this is why i prefer a macro

and not just blanket mouseover

[polar timber]

ya i was thinking of switching but its too much work and i dont think ive ever actually done that so not worth it

[grave osprey]

Wow caustic spatter is strongk

[simple gulch]

10/10 dumb, made the mouseover equipped it on my stealth action bar...works like the rupture one im dope

[grave osprey]

Is there a channel for like WA modification assistance?

[polar timber]

you can dm me maybe i can help

but weakauras discord has a place for that also

[visual vault]

!tot

[grave osprey]

Will do, thank you !!

[gray pond]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[normal mist]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[rocky sundial]

guys how good is ara kara trinket on assa

[stark scroll]

its good

skardyns grace is best

[nova aspen]

its listed under S tier

wowhead guide tells u everything

[rocky sundial]

its weird i have shadow binding 616 and void reaper 606 and when i simmed ara kara 619 in aoe it shows 70k less damage than my current trinkets and in single it shows -1k

[west peak]

what fight duration are you simming at

[keen spruce]

The bis list on Wowhead

Has nothing to do

With 619 ilvl trinkets

Or 606 ilvl trinkets

[rocky sundial]

40 sec shows 70k less dmg and 1 min shows 48k less damage

[west peak]

its a ramping trinket

the other two are not

[keen spruce]

Why tf are u doing 40s and 1m sims

[rocky sundial]

then what should i do

[keen spruce]

For raid we normally just use 5m patchwerk

M+ just use dungeon slice

Unless you’re trying to evaluate a very specific condition

[rocky sundial]

idk i thought patchwrek 5 bosses 40 seconds

is the way maybe im wrong idk lol thats wat ive heard

[keen spruce]

I think arcane mages used to use that

In DF

But who knows why

We always just use dungeon slice

[rocky sundial]

so i just put dungeon slice and sim??

[keen spruce]

Ye

It does a mix of st, AoE, low target cleave

[rocky sundial]

anythinf else i should turn off or something

[keen spruce]

And does a pretty decent job of evaluating how things will perform relative to eachother in a general dungeon setting

I don’t remember probably not tho

I can change like group buffs and stuff but it shouldn’t make a big difference

[lethal forum]

Hello guys. Do u know, can i make macro for all 4 poisons? (for not to click every one by one)

[void vigil]

Starting on assa and looked at wowhead builds etc, what's the reasoning behind not taking tricks ?

[spice surge]

What the reasoning to take tricks

[keen spruce]

Don’t think so

[void vigil]

applying bleeds whil tank is gathering the pull

[keen spruce]

Unneeded in most situations

[spice surge]

The tank shouldve hit the mobs once

And then you cant get aggro by applying bleeds

[gleaming geyser]

tricks in pugs, blackjack in grouped up content; the DR is very lorge with AoE blind

[void vigil]

alright alright makes sense

[keen spruce]

Assas doesn’t really generate much threat. Unless you’re specifically gathering mobs for your tank it’s just a bit lackluster

[spice surge]

Its only if youre actively pulling for the tank or if the tank isnt focusing the mob youre sending every CD on and youre scared hes gonna drop aggro, then you could tricks mid kingsbane

[keen spruce]

Gets more mileage at higher keys in coordinated groups

[void vigil]

I see, was just used to play with it but the dr on aoe blind sounds good, didn't think about that

[keen spruce]

Where AoE stops and stuns will eat up a lot of the blackjack DR anyways

[spice surge]

But ultimately it doesnt really matter either way

[keen spruce]

Yeah both fairly low impact

[civic sentinel]

Anyone know if the transmitter trinket buff drops on pull?

[spice surge]

If you like the tricks to pull for the tank go ahead

[heavy trail]

Did they every clarify if the wax nerf on 600+ ilevel was legit or a bug ?

[keen spruce]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[spice surge]

Almost certainly intended

But no they didnt clarify

[heavy trail]

Weird stuff haha but oh well.

[spice surge]

Since i'd imagine they didnt intend for it to be something you'd want to use in high end content, just a fun side thing while leveling

[gleaming geyser]

wax does work on off hand, so if you still have a 610 off hand dagger its still ok

[uneven plume]

just get whetstones you brokies

[thorn crater]

how much is each stone on your servers?

[uneven plume]

i think 1700g

[proper hare]

How much dps loss is mana oil vs stone?

[brittle swift]

!wa

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[keen spruce]

Not a lot

Very teenie

[orchid wind]

yo boys, i'm sure it's might be not that important, but i want to spend my runes, and sim telling me to spend it on fingers, why tho ? even tho they doesn't give primary ?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/coAGeGr4Dzw8TKXQVdy5SX

[acoustic roost]

It was like 3-4k on my sim which is not much

[heavy trail]

maybe a #pvp question, but how does it work for that like if you have a 597 conquest dagger that scales up in a bg or whatever.

[spice surge]

Pretty much everything (besides gear) is region wide nowadays

[proper hare]

[keen spruce]

It’s a 597 wep unless you’re in an instanced PvP mode

Like a big or arena

So kinda stinky for pve

[proper hare]

I checked prices yday and it was like 3-4k for a r3 stone

Mana oil is like nothing

[heavy trail]

Right, I get that was just wondering but can test it on my own haha. Like will it stop working or be stripped if the item "evolves" to the 639 or whatever.

[keen spruce]

Is it also adding enchants on top of upgrades?

[gleaming geyser]

secondary stat is still very good and jewelry has a bigger coefficient per ilvl upgrade

maybe you`re also lacking those 2 stats your ring provide

[keen spruce]

Oh you mean for wax?

I have no idea

[abstract needle]

!wa

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[proper hare]

Should be a bug surely

[keen spruce]

I’d assume it’s intended

Blizz doesn’t like class specific stuff like that nudging into end-game. And they hate it when rogue pickpocketing is relevant in any way

‘Member when they said it was getting a full overhaul in DF?

[orchid wind]

i already got enchants on

[orchid wind]

maybe

interesting

[novel dock]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[acoustic roost]

It’s also a dungeon slice sim

[gleaming geyser]

Even more so, having a 626 regicide, I simmed higher crafting a 636 ring than a 636 weapon

crit mastery just that strong

[keen spruce]

Not really crit mastery it’s just the stat budget on jewelry prbibably

[gleaming geyser]

yea, meant moreso in his case

and he simmed for dungeonslice where haste has less value

[acoustic roost]

Try patchwerk sim

[abstract needle]

so how do i add tracking from my garrote and rapture to my plater? anyone knows and maybe can help me out with that?

[keen spruce]

Oh tru tru

[acoustic roost]

Use one of the recommended profiles

[keen spruce]

Easier just to yoink someone else’s pack and take the settings from theirs

[acoustic roost]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[keen spruce]

If you want to keep your own profile

[dusty crescent]

sorry to say i got 626 fist wep with my trinket

I have to go outlaw, i'm sick to my stomach

[abstract needle]

i want to use mine, just want to add tracking like the platers in the !wa commend

[gleaming geyser]

🫡

[dusty crescent]

I love you all sniffle

[gleaming geyser]

good thing iron stomach is rogue tree

[queen cove]

WOW thanks blizz... rofl

[dusty crescent]

lowkey awesome ngl

[orchid cedar]

dmg buff when 🙂

[keen spruce]

Thinking rogue will get buffed before the raid is cleared

I’m still waiting for the inevitable 3% aura nerf

[gleaming geyser]

they'll hit us with the aura buff followed by another kingsbane nerf

[subtle tundra]

i will single handedly nerf assa

[spice surge]

I just want my sub bugs to get fixed

They fixed ER, but the mark cant go below 3 during DN bug they introduced at the same time

Screws over sub way more than ER screwed over assa

[keen spruce]

“We have been monitoring performance in raid and dungeons and will be making adjustments to assassination AoE. Crimson tempest and caustic spatter seem to be over performing and will see some adjustments next reset.”

-on weekly reset

• ct damage reduced by 10%
• caustic spatter does reduced damage beyond 4 targets (was 8)

Or something like that

[spice surge]

Spatter is already "beyond 5 targets"

[craggy elbow]

How many targets should I rupture before I should start spamming envenom and caustic spatter? Wowhead says all targets should have rupture but in pulls with like 12 mobs I feel like I get more damage from envenom, but it could be my boomer hands

[keen spruce]

I wasn’t sure that’s why I made it 4

[keen spruce]

2-5ish depending on the situation

[gleaming geyser]

Personally I do 6 with IC and 4 if I have to do manually

[craggy elbow]

What do you mean by IC?

[gleaming geyser]

you rupture twice out of stealth

[craggy elbow]

ah gotcha

[vagrant brook]

from stealth: garrote rupture rupture garrote garrote ct, has been enough for me on anything below +9
if only 3-4 targets go garrote rupture ct envenom spam

[keen spruce]

It’s very pull dependent. And will change based on mob health, group damage/CDs, your stealth status etc

[thorn cloak]

guys, I have 2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt), but it seems like they don't stack.. am i misunderstanding something ?

[craggy elbow]

how many combo points are you rupturing with?

[keen spruce]

If manually applying ruptures you need to balance the energy regen from applying them vs how long the jobs will live

5+

[split cipher]

There was a bug in Dragonflight where they didn't. Iirc you had to take damage below 80% and then heal up for it to activate the second one

[gleaming geyser]

with SBS, first rupture 5+ and second one is automatically 7

[thorn cloak]

@split cipher damn.. will it always be like that?

[split cipher]

I haven't experienced this bug in TWW, but in DF it was just the initial equiping of the gear

[thorn cloak]

@split cipher man I love you... it works now. I was starting to panic.. thank you so much

[split cipher]

npnp

[pure moth]

Or they can keep it the same and let us be good at something

[keen spruce]

Well sure they COULD.

But they ain’t gonna

[pure moth]

Mhm

[timid coyote]

I`m trying assassination for the first time, but need to read something, because i had 1m dps on target dummy on sub, and now with assa i have 400k xDD
Reading the skills, do i understand correctly, that the chance of Fateful Ending happening is 1:2^7?

[crisp shard]

dang, this is going to make the restealth arguments get even more intense

[pure moth]

Just double vanish...

Jk

[keen spruce]

[keen spruce]

Fate bound just big rng on capstone

But 400k very low

Probably making a lot of woopsies

[timid coyote]

i only played sub since start of legion xD

[crisp shard]

the fact that maybe more of our aoe will come from garrote openers because of possible ct and cs changes

[stark scroll]

what would happen if 5 rogues entered a dungeon and all tricked of trades the next rogue over and there was an infinity cycle of tricks of trades on rogues with same gear same spec doing same amount of damage

[keen spruce]

Someone would crit and then the next dude would die

[dawn pollen]

for broodtwister ovi'nax mythic prog would you jjust take single target talents with caustic or would you go more aoe

[stark scroll]

waiting room

[keen spruce]

We used to do tricks trains in WOLTK with like 3 rogues to even out threat

But that’s when tricks gave a damage buff

[timid coyote]

But that fateful ending seems completely abysmal, if you take 7x 5combo point finisher, its only 1:128 times 7 for it to actually trigger.
Bad probability math i know, but its more or less once per 900 finishers

Am i understanding it wrong or is it actually that bad

[keen spruce]

It’s not that bad but I don’t remember why

Still very rng tho

[timid coyote]

because to have heads or tails 7 times in a row is a chance 1:128

[stark scroll]

unless youre feeling the fever

[timid coyote]

So you would have to try 7 throws 128x = 900

[keen spruce]

Wait that math doesn’t sound like it’s mathing

But I haven’t read the hero talent trees still so idk

[keen spruce]

Yeah I mean there’s other coin related nodes tho

[limpid plinth]

Is dungeonslice still good for simming m+?

[keen spruce]

Ye

[timid coyote]

Just read them, there is only 1 that makes you flip the same twice after going out of stealth

So after stealth opener your chance upgrades to 1:64 xD

[keen spruce]

That already makes a big difference

It’s 1:32

Cuz you have 2x the same

So only 5 more

Also the base case is 1:64 cuz the it doesn’t matter what the first one is

I think

[brittle swift]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[stark scroll]

ye

[keen spruce]

I might be fried on that part

[austere zodiac]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
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[neon drift]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[thorn fjord]

Fate Bound Gaming who's with me

https://tenor.com/view/alabama-leprechaun-gif-8023132

[keen spruce]

[thorn fjord]

LETS GO GAMBLING

aw dangit

[tawny pawn]

bro assassination logs on mythic looking shy

[thorn fjord]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8mti5S1dc8FJ89tbTCFXV3

LETS GO GAMBLING

-0.6% we take that

well .9 really

[austere zodiac]

Hi, im trying to setup Whispyr's Plater, but when I import it I get this pop-up. Anyone have any ideas?

[lone cairn]

plater is a separate addon

[thorn fjord]

You gotta import the paste into plater yeah

[austere zodiac]

ahh ok, yeah I had plater but thought it was still through WA

Thanks

[thorn fjord]

/plater will open the menu

[austere zodiac]

Where abouts in plater do I import? menu is huge

[thorn fjord]

Should be a profile tab

Then import profile... When you paste it, it should give you a success message

[austere zodiac]

Yeah done I think, thanks for the help!

[thorn fjord]

No worries... In the profile tab on the left panel it should say which profile you currently have loaded

[keen spruce]

Low sample size and Assas being a bit of a role filler rn on deep progression guilds

Once normal people comps start clearing the content you’ll see assas damage normalize a bit

[thorn fjord]

Surely with higher IL we'll start creeping up the meters

SURELY

[dusty zenith]

can you catalyst crafted gear?

[austere zodiac]

How do I stop this number overlap?

[keen spruce]

Not really gear related, more like guilds running 50 warriors and dks relegating rogue to boss dmg instead of any aoe pad

[keen spruce]

If you sort mythic by boss dmg it gives a clearer picture of the situation

[austere zodiac]

Thanks @drifting cloud

Is there any other settings you recommend I change?

[runic hinge]

Thanks @drifting cloud

[dark talon]

!up

[austere zodiac]

CT doesnt seem to be showing, I assume there is some way to track that on the name plate?

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[solid venture]

went super saiyan in this boost run

[keen spruce]

That’s a good dudu name

[undone eagle]

hey siri, which tier set do we wanna avoid?

chest or shoulder?

[keen spruce]

Chest

But it don’t rly matter

[undone eagle]

Why's that my love?

i mean why does it not matter? 😛

stats wise is close?

[pulsar basin]

is there a hate % we wanna be at?

[timber sigil]

anyone here use Hekili?

[keen spruce]

No

No

[keen spruce]

Stats just don’t matter that much in general

Agi only thing that really matters

But just sim

Depending on your gear you might need/want different things

[timber sigil]

what do you use to Sim?

[keen spruce]

Actively avoiding a gear slot might lose you some value during the gearing process

[pulsar basin]

is there any reason to use AMR

or stick to raidbots

[drifting cloud]

yeah if you timetravel back to 2012

[stark scroll]

when i see hekili being used it makes me want to hekili myself

[keen spruce]

Never heard of amr

[timber sigil]

want to explain?

[keen spruce]

Raidbots

[timber sigil]

ok good that's what i use, ty

[keen spruce]

It makes you a worse player and doesn’t teach you any spec mechanics or interactions

[drifting cloud]

hekili is not good for rogues and will just make you develop bad play patterns, you should play without it

[stark scroll]

sure i see people using hekili which takes the player out of the game and makes you not learn how to play the game

so you sit there with low parse shit prio rotas

becuase thats what hekili did

[keen spruce]

It’s just a tool for monkeys to see light, press light with no context or reasoning for why things s are pressed

[stark scroll]

even though you did good in heroics nad thouhgt you were good

[twilit kayak]

hi, does anyone knows how much dps increase is 4p armour set compared to 0p?

[pulsar basin]

like 4%

[keen spruce]

Which means that as soon as a dynamic situation comes up your brain is gonna fall out of your head

[drifting cloud]

less than that even

[keen spruce]

It’s 2.6%

Iirc

[twilit kayak]

is it a lot or every class is like that?

[timber sigil]

i understand that general thought - but is it at least directionally accurate?

[normal mist]

not really

[stark scroll]

its a copy of a fixed scenario

[austere zodiac]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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LE's Group
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Whispyr's Plater

[stark scroll]

it tells you how that scenario played

[keen spruce]

It can be at times, but often not

[drifting cloud]

alot have low, but even among those its among the lowest

[timber sigil]

isnt simming based on a fixed scenario?

[velvet pier]

Is there any sims for which flask you should use? 🙂

[stark scroll]

rogues are like water and situations are like watter

[stark scroll]

yes but it randomizes what happens during said scenario

[pulsar basin]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[stark scroll]

hekili doesnt

[timber sigil]

i like this

[keen spruce]

Simming isn’t supposed to define how you perform. It provides baselines to evaluate hearing decisions

[stark scroll]

so you are playing the same scenario ove rand over

[keen spruce]

Gearing*

[full palm]

is it okay to use crimson tempest on ST?

[keen spruce]

[full palm]

[keen spruce]

Technically there are some goofy sim scenarios where u do. But please don’t

[full palm]

Ok!

[keen spruce]

Unless you’re cev

[full palm]

Thank you

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[timber sigil]

i appreciate the responses and help

[amber lark]

sorry for the stupid question but the very rar ring from queen, increas the mastery from us the ring dmg?

[keen spruce]

Shouldn’t

[white lance]

hey! sorry for the late reply. i got the same question in a comment on wago, so i put a response over there

[amber lark]

ok, thx ^^

[spring vault]

i assume it doesn't since the wording is "your poisons and bleeds"

[white holly]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

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LE's Group
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Whispyr's Plater

[white lance]

thanks for the ping

[stiff quiver]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[magic gale]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[reef isle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[copper pine]

for which rogue spec is restealth between pulls not necessary ? Sucks hard when random Tanks always chainpull and you cant restealth

[white lance]

!stealth

!restealth

[spice spire]

!restealths

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
• While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[timber sigil]

super cool that the bot does that ❤️

[royal lantern]

item effects and trinkets are blacklisted to player stats

[keen spruce]

Chair pull gud

Dungeon go faster

Group do more damage

More loot more IO

[rotund oak]

[thorn fjord]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1232770176571805697/puzzlebox.gif

[royal lantern]

assa and sub dont care

outlaw is somewhat effected

a good group chainpulls regardless, cus chainpulls are good

if you have a tank that pulls a new pack when the current one has a single enemy at 10%, yeha thats a bad tank, but assa/sub dont really care

[keen spruce]

Is there a good one this season I should make?

[haughty flicker]

definitely transmitter

but thats subs problem mainly

[royal lantern]

our stupid warrior iss using transmitter

that guy is allready floor PoV on every single fight

like not even a joke, every fight he is dead at the end

[vagrant hearth]

does 2 set and flayedwing toxin work together?

[royal lantern]

and then using that trinket cus "i can handle it dont worry"

[royal lantern]

ofc not lol

[slim pebble]

Does our two set even work?

[keen spruce]

Define “work”

[rotund oak]

u mean stacking?no lul

[keen spruce]

[vagrant hearth]

yee xd

would have been cool if they did

[gloomy otter]

is it worth using 2x Blood-Kissed Kukri (hero) i already got one in 623 but my offhand is a champion dagger 619

[willow vine]

Am I trolling if I dump crests/ stones into a champ skardyn

[rotund oak]

can alays sim friend

robot doesnt lie

unless its unique equipped i dont see a reason not to if it sims higher

[keen spruce]

Depends on the content you’re doing

If you’re likely to get a better one in the next few weeks then maybe

[willow vine]

True

[keen spruce]

But also in a few weeks crests don’t rly matter

[runic hinge]

The serum trinket also has a 1.5 sec cast time

[keen spruce]

If you’re doing high content

[willow vine]

Also true lol

Thank you friend

[keen spruce]

[runic hinge]

Turns you into bug

[keen spruce]

Oh that could be a good one

[runic hinge]

Drops from delves

[keen spruce]

I could turn link into a bug after he throws it

In the gif

[runic hinge]

I don’t mind transmitter now that I’ve played it for a full week

[thorn fjord]

Transmitter for sure

[balmy prism]

Maybe a dumb question but what's the diff between poison dmg and nature dmg? Or is there none?

[thorn fjord]

Our poisons are nature dmg

[balmy prism]

ah right

[thorn fjord]

silly goose

[keen spruce]

Squares and rectangles

[spice surge]

Sometimes theres a difference, sometimes not

For the most part theyre the same

[manic quartz]

thank you!

[keen spruce]

Generally nature includes poison and other stuff

But sometimes not all poison

[amber stream]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[thorn fjord]

Would a Hurricane be considered nature damage?

[wise plume]

yes

[keen spruce]

Tf is hurricane

Is that a dudu spell?

[fallow canopy]

WW monk bottom right talent duh

[heavy coral]

dumb question why do the crafted items on wowhead guide have haste / mastery ?

[keen spruce]

I think monk and DH are the only classes I’ve never max levelled

[timid coyote]

Damn, assassination is hard.

[keen spruce]

Wait no

I played mw a bit

But never specked into ww

[slim pebble]

There are still classes in wow I’ve literally never even created

[keen spruce]

Megashmeeps was a menace

[eager tree]

its fine to macro skardyn's grace to DM right

[keen spruce]

In keys

[eager tree]

yea

[white lance]

basically the tldr is try the "overlay" option

[keen spruce]

actually I’ve never max levelled a dudu either

I just have a class trial named bawkawck

[shadow badger]

What are priests

[keen spruce]

That I use to make WAs

[shadow badger]

I’ve never made one of those things

[manic quartz]

yeah, i looked around there but seems im blind 😄

[slim pebble]

Ive never made a shaman, warlock or warrior

[white lance]

we can take it in dms

[keen spruce]

Oh shaman too

My warlock is my bae

[shadow badger]

That’s wild actually warriors are fun af

[keen spruce]

I tank on warrior and dk

I fkin love affliction man

Far away assas

[heavy coral]

i confusion bis gear on wowhead shows crafted items with haste / mastery but in the crafted gear part it says aim to use peerless which is crit/mastery is wowhead just being weird or am i fucking dense ?

[keen spruce]

And destro in keys is just

[keen spruce]

Stats don’t actually matter

[subtle tundra]

its cause stats depend on your other stats

[fallow canopy]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[keen spruce]

2 stats being “best” doesn’t mean you want 0 of the other ones. It just means you’ll end up with more of the “best” ones

[heavy coral]

ok i dumbass then ty

[keen spruce]

Common misconception

[balmy prism]

Right, the reason I'm wondering is like on Broodtwister, with kingsbane and caustic spatter interaction, does that additional damage get spread too?

But based on the responses I get it

[spice surge]

Yes kingsbane get spattered

[quasi steppe]

what talents do we go with this week?

[spice surge]

Mb thought it was still talking about the ring, that does not get spattered

[balmy prism]

oh that's interesting

[spice surge]

only rogue stuff

[keen spruce]

Seems like hybrid is just kinda the go-to

Every week rn

Need to see how the Meta shakes out once people finish gearing and start pushing high keys

[timid coyote]

Guys how do you handle energy on single target? I am not just trying out assa, got this build: https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps
Single target raid build.

I keep garrote and rupture on dummy, but it either doesnt work or doesnt help that much, i am so energy starved its crazy

or venomous wounds dont work on dummies due to some bug

[acoustic roost]

!playstyle

Err what’s the command

[little moth]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[timid coyote]

because i dont seem to get that additional energy from venomous wounds on dummy

[spice surge]

Dont use instant poison

[timid coyote]

will try to go find some elite and check there

i use instant, amplifying and atrophic

instant bugs out venomous wounds?

[little moth]

use deadly

[acoustic roost]

Instant is a nono

[little moth]

instant is caca

[proven jasper]

Deadly>amp>literally anything>instant poison for assa

[runic hinge]

!poisons

Hmm

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[timid coyote]

lol i forgot assa has something else instead of instant

[proven jasper]

Yeah thats where like all ur damage comes from

[timid coyote]

brb will test if venomous wounds will work with deadly on dummy

because something is bugged here

[acoustic roost]

And energy regen

[keen spruce]

Deadly is literally just instant but better

Deadly does work on dummy

But you’re still gonna end up energy starved at some point

That just iz how it iz

[runic hinge]

deadly is instant plus a dot

[polar jasper]

guys, back in the days (dragonflight ) i had a page where the rotations ranked by top dps used per boss was traceable. i don't mean warcraftlogs. it was some other fun stuff site, but i don't find it anymore. any ideas what the tool was called?

[timid coyote]

yeah but at least it worked, instant didnt apply venomous wounds, this is why i was so energy starved

[fallow canopy]

lorrgs?

[proven jasper]

Yes because instant sucks

for assa

[keen spruce]

Probably lorrgs

[proven jasper]

dont use ever

[timid coyote]

I was a sub since legion xD

[polar jasper]

yes thank u so much community

[proven jasper]

yeah fine on sub not for assa

[keen spruce]

Tbh

Deadly should just replace instant

In the spell book

[proven jasper]

Truth

[keen spruce]

When you talent into it

[timid coyote]

Yeah it has the same icon, so i didnt notice its not the same

[keen spruce]

Instant doesn’t interact with the spec hardly at all

[timid coyote]

Well now we`re talking, its instantly (pun intended) better

At least i have some energy

I had trouble keeping 500k dps

[proven jasper]

Yeah instant poison is like having no poisons

on assa

[arctic socket]

If you’re energy starved just stack up to 247% haste

[timid coyote]

I`m trying assa, because i am working my ass off as subtetly on HC raid and still hard to keep 1M DPS on single target after the initial minute

But assa rogues seem to allways go for 1.2-1.3mil

[keen spruce]

Corruption when?

[timid coyote]

want some of that for me xD

[arctic socket]

@keen spruce my stats good?

[keen spruce]

It’s whispyr’s favorite infinite energy infinite envenom gcd locked rogue

500000 haste

[fallow canopy]

need more leech

[arctic socket]

I traded it for mastery

[raven bone]

Howcome a full upgraded hero track Skardyn's simming lower for me then 626 Transmitter and 616 Detachable Fang

[keen spruce]

No avoidance no triple digit mastery

[keen spruce]

Cuz it’s better at that ilvl

[arctic socket]

😭 lemme use my gb trinket

[keen spruce]

For you

[thorn fjord]

How do you have so much mastery lol

[runic hinge]

he's sub

[arctic socket]

All of my gear is just mastery

[arctic socket]

Says who

[raven bone]

You're hearing what I'm saying, right? a 626 Skardyn's is simming lower then 626 Transmitter and 616 Fang, that makes no sense

[keen spruce]

He pressed trinket then screenshot

[keen spruce]

It makes sense

[arctic socket]

Nope

[keen spruce]

My answer is the same

[thorn fjord]

That was my initial thought lol

[arctic socket]

I didn’t use the trinket yet

[spice surge]

Why would that not make sense?

[covert jewel]

how does it make no sense, when on burst transmitter is better

[thorn fjord]

Guess i gotta sub to the OF for the secrets

[covert jewel]

and 2nd on use is useless

[arctic socket]

That’s just in sub with consumes

Grace + queen trinket goes hard

[thorn fjord]

Poverty stats

[arctic socket]

20m crits on court

[keen spruce]

Well balanced

[arctic socket]

You have to much vers gtfo

[keen spruce]

Very mindful

Very demure

[thorn fjord]

[acoustic roost]

Naw he survivin

[arctic socket]

Crit low to

Honestly

Reroll outlaw

[thorn fjord]

I cant play outlaw in raid

[keen spruce]

Is that where the hoes at?

[thorn fjord]

I suck something awful

[arctic socket]

Ayo

What you mean by that

[arctic socket]

Brother show me

[thorn fjord]

For whatever reason my damage is always shit in raid playing OL

I chalk it up to just being bad

[arctic socket]

I haven’t tried outlaw yet

In raid

[thorn fjord]

I can OL in keys just fine

[arctic socket]

But I told my guild when I get the princess fist wep

I will play it

[thorn fjord]

We had heroic and normal versions of it drop on Tuesday

Didnt get either 😦

But its because I suck at OL lol

Our WW is cracked

[arctic socket]

[keen spruce]

I did some pirating on fyrakk and tindral prog

It didn’t go well

[spice spire]

Nah that’s this chat

[keen spruce]

[thorn fjord]

Tind was Sub the entire time

[spice spire]

Death

[keen spruce]

I played assas on smolderon, I wasn’t going to sub after that

[thorn fjord]

I did sub last 3

Sin all the others

[haughty flicker]

my ret alt got fyralath just before we went into smolderon prog

so it wasnt my alt anymore

[keen spruce]

Assas felt fine on tindral

Just annoying they didn’t partition logs

So us late killers got hosed

Fyrakk was okay. Sub probably more flexible

[spice spire]

I’d never

Bleeding my beloved

[thorn fjord]

More pulls on Swift and Fyraak than the rest of the other bosses combined almost broke my mental

[keen spruce]

I think me feet are burning

Our fyrakk prog was actually pretty efficient

Tindral was a slog

[pastel cradle]

if im just roaming around doing world quests or what not, would the hybrid build be the most ideal for this?

[thorn fjord]

we had 500+ pulls on both

[keen spruce]

Lost probably my 160 pulls to a paladin with a broken dispell WA just not telling us

[spice spire]

Yeah that or bleed

[thorn fjord]

I usually run a pvp build for open world but yeah hybrid would work too

[pastel cradle]

got it ty

[keen spruce]

I don’t think we hit 500 on either but probably close

Were u guys there early? Or very late?

[thorn fjord]

Kinda late

We killed with a decent amount of time to spare though

Everyone got a mount

[keen spruce]

Oh not that late then

[thorn fjord]

like 4 maybe 5 weeks towards the end

[keen spruce]

We killed with like a few weeks left but didn’t reclear

I got the mount and retired

[thorn fjord]

Did you guys get your portals in S4 atleast?

[keen spruce]

I didn’t play s4

[kindred dune]

when I have a 636 crafted dagger with embelishment and a 639 dagger which one do I take as mainhand? does it make any difference? sorry for that stupid question 🙂

[thorn fjord]

rip

I got my stupid raid portals 😛

They'll be used in like 3 years

[keen spruce]

Ilvl in mh

[kindred dune]

ty

[keen spruce]

[kindred dune]

so having the emb in offhand doesnt make it worse, right?

[keen spruce]

Unless something has changed

No

Shouldn’t matter

[thorn fjord]

Now you guys have me selfconcious of my crit %

[tawny geyser]

Do we still play without Spatter on Rashanan heroic?

[normal mist]

I left my first key this season

damn

[quartz lance]

Anyone have a good BlizzHUD import? Going to move away from ElvUI but don't want to start completely fresh

[cerulean maple]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[keen spruce]

Only if adds are being gripped under the boss. Easier to just run IB

[keen spruce]

So proud of u

[thorn fjord]

@keen spruce have i mentioned im running FB in raid tonight

[keen spruce]

[thorn fjord]

I CANT STOP WINNING

[keen spruce]

U better bring in some demon uptime

On capstone

https://tenor.com/view/blueboy-blue-gif-6135256

I’m gonna go jump in the sea. Weather finally good

[spice spire]

Nope

[keen spruce]

I saw that

[spice spire]

No had 0 idea I had that emote

How the fuck

[haughty flicker]

[spice spire]

It’s fucking GH isn’t it

[dark thorn]

Hey there, WoWhead recommends Set Shoulders for BiS (versa/mastery). How is it better than those in Dawnbreaker (Hast/Mastery) if you already 4p ?

[keen spruce]

[keen spruce]

Chest bad so shoulders by default

But doesn’t rly matter much

[dark thorn]

They also recommand chest, alright I see

[keen spruce]

Yeah just sim whatever works best for you

[dark thorn]

lil difference between shoulds and chest, but shoulders is "worth"

even if stats suck