assassination

[round nexus]

😄

[balmy condor]

Like dungeonslice will drop the buff and stuff

But it’s still a synthetic

[round nexus]

Might also be because i have 14.5k crit rating

base

[rotund oak]

u full stacked on haste?

ah nvm

rating

also lol on that

[round nexus]

It's because of some heavy crit items i guess
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aKWr588kEeyzNaXYTuj3p6

[rotund oak]

yeah its alot of crit

would make sense why dawnthread loses value

not that .5% is that much of a big deal

[round nexus]

vers currently sims as good as crit for me

[rotund oak]

also makes sense

im literally building my sin rogue on vers/mast

sub stats

[round nexus]

i wish we had old sub 😦

miss it so much

[rotund oak]

rogue is getting saved i think on anniversary rework

anyway ye,some stuff happening,plz buff tier set and sub aoe

[round nexus]

lots of qol, it's nice

maybe we'll get some people to return too rogue

i'll always stay here, i love melee but i can't play without cheat death because im bad 😄

[rotund oak]

think outlaw will have a comebakc most likely

coz supercharger and snd gone makes it alot more simple and less apm intensive

[round nexus]

This is my first assa season

only played outlaw and sub

[rotund oak]

sin is beautiful,loved it

all these years

i dont discriminate,love rogue as a total

[round nexus]

i tested outlaw the other day, and i kinda went streight back to sin

[rotund oak]

yeah rn outlaw is

😅

questionable

[round nexus]

not because of the rotation or anything, i don't have much issues with it..

But playing sin makes me feel like i have time to do other stuff

[cobalt tangle]

any1 have dual dawnthread equipped?

its only giving me one 756 buff

[rotund oak]

equip/unequip and relog/reload

[cobalt tangle]

already did it, cant get the 2 buffs to work

[rotund oak]

[naive crane]

Is thistletea still a button to press or is it passive with the new patch coming soon?

[round nexus]

will become a hybrid of some sort?

you can press it, but it will auto use sub 50 energy

[naive crane]

30 energy right

[round nexus]

meaning you still want to press it

[novel star]

group going to bed one key away from my dagger

[round nexus]

crafted mine yesterday, felt nice to get a 4.5% upgrade 😄

[novel star]

anyways mists is fun

[round nexus]

was changed too 50

[umbral cypress]

dose meld give improved garrote and carnage?

[novel star]

other way around unless they changed it and then unchanged it

[round nexus]

oh lol my bad

[round nexus]

which key level? 🙂

[runic hinge]

only if you actually get into stealth

[umbral cypress]

so u cant use it while tank is chain pulling

right?

ohh i get it

[runic hinge]

you can you just gotta not have anything that makes it fail happen

[naive crane]

And how exactly does the New SnD works with cut the chase?

[umbral cypress]

use meld then use invis

[south lava]

Can u show me ur damage breakdown in detail if possible

[round nexus]

chain pulling... It's good if done correctly, but when they chain pull with 1 mob left at 10% life, i get kinda annoyed

[runic hinge]

i use that and it works better than trying to do them seperate

[umbral cypress]

biggg thanks

[balmy condor]

This the type of key where you go “gg yw for carry”

[novel star]

eh 4/5 are premade

[balmy condor]

Even more reason

[novel star]

i could be a dickhead to the one solo

LOL

but nah

[round nexus]

does that work in combat? :p

[runic hinge]

and it's like, 50/50 if it works, if it does great, if not, whatever

[runic hinge]

yes but only on trash

[novel star]

i played like fucking trash for like 4 keys today

and had one good one

i cant ego

everyone saw it

[balmy condor]

I beat a frost dk by 10k dps and I was screaming GET SHIT ON LOSER YOURE TRASH NICE META SPEC YOU APE in discord

(My guild hates me)

[round nexus]

😄 😄

[naive crane]

Lol

[round nexus]

ok, bye bye blood elf. thanks.
Unless dwarf solves a lot of problems this season ofc

[novel star]

banger

[drowsy jetty]

Where can i get a good spec for mythic plus for assa

[round nexus]

ask Whispyr, he will DM you the secret spec

[novel star]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[novel star]

wowhead builds section

[drowsy jetty]

They all have 3 specs for mythic plus

[novel star]

do hybrid

[south lava]

@novel star can show ur detail dps if possible?

[novel star]

like the breakdown?

[drowsy jetty]

Hybrid bleed etc

[south lava]

Yes

[runic hinge]

play bleed until like 4 and then play hybrid after

[novel star]

i feel ct is lower than it should be but what do i know

[drowsy jetty]

U mean 4 keys?

[south lava]

Thanks

[runic hinge]

+4 yea

[drowsy jetty]

Aye cheers

[umbral cypress]

stone vault 9

[novel star]

@balmy condor how that poisoned knife make u feel big boy

2 casts baby i love having that shit on my bars

[umbral cypress]

this mage didnt even pay

[runic hinge]

aug detected details rejected

[umbral cypress]

🙂

[cobalt sphinx]

sleeping on the flensing knives

[novel star]

[novel star]

motherfucker im not taking that shit in keys

you fall over without bait and switch

lol

[balmy condor]

YEAAAAAHHHHH BABY DRUID GOT OBLITERATED SPREAD THEM CHEEKS YOU CHICKEN FUCK IM GONNA BASTE AND BUTTER YOU LIKE I WORK AT POPEYES STUPID FUCKING CASTER DPS WOOOOOOOOO

[umbral cypress]

hahahaaa

[novel star]

not taking bait n switch is actually genuinely griefing

it feels so bad

[halcyon hamlet]

this was an 11 mist overtimed by 30 sec, jesus we needed more dps

[runic hinge]

Nice, fatebound is within 3.3%

Playable mayhaps

[bronze plover]

morning everyone I see raider io everyone crafting dagger with embalish is it rly good or double crit embalish is betteR?

[crisp stream]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[round nexus]

probably because they are progressing raid

[runic hinge]

dagger better for raid, double crit better for dungo

[cobalt tangle]

i cant get double crit to work, is any1 with double dawn here that is working ingame? it doesnt give me 2 buffs

[runic hinge]

!dawnthread

[prisma monolith]

Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.

[runic hinge]

it will be 1 buff, just double the amount

[cobalt tangle]

aahh, i have to get some damage then

yup

all good now

thank you

[somber sparrow]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[indigo elk]

Do we have a rough difference in % for dagger emblish vs double crit for raids ?

[woven torrent]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[indigo elk]

Thanks!

[bronze plover]

is it ok to craft dagger and waist and then craft wrist with no embalish?

[balmy condor]

Sure

Dagger with ascension + waist/wrist with writhing banding

And then whatever you want

[viral spire]

Is it okay to craft a SECOND dagger tho

[teal lark]

guys, im considering swapping from dh to rogue, my question - is assa ST dps really that underwhelming for bosses?

[viral spire]

Underwhelming?

[naive crane]

I think sin has good ST aswell.

[raven egret]

We're decent, aggressively mid and reliable. It's fine

[zinc frost]

Aren’t DHs big ST pumpers?

[naive crane]

Rly good pick for both m+ and Raid

[raven egret]

But like, if you are wanting to swap just play something you like, you'll be fine

[teal lark]

i know assa is basically top pick for m+

[uneven tundra]

what is the best sim type for m+ etc 5 boss target 5 min or dung slice?

[raven egret]

we're good in all situation, if what you are asking is 'are we meta' then no, and thats a different conversation

[normal mist]

Dungeon slice for a long time now

[royal lantern]

yes it is

[thorny aurora]

Hey! Hesitating between queen's mandate and rashanan's cloak from vault
Any pointers to help me choose? Playing mostly sin, not raiding in mythic right now but clearly hc weekly (helping guildmates for splits)

[royal lantern]

@naive crane @viral spire idk what you guys are smoking, but assa is NOT good ST lol

no rogue spec is really rn

[royal lantern]

the rare cloak?

[thorny aurora]

Yeah

[normal mist]

Not in my raid group bozo

[indigo elk]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/38#metric=bossdps

I think most people aren't filtering wcl properly , this is based on boss dmg alone

Sin dmg is pretty good imo?

[neon thunder]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[royal lantern]

personally would take the cloak because its a rare item and there is a chance you wont see it for a longer time again

BUT mandate is also really strong

tough choice buddy

[weak hearth]

what exactly do you mean by "hybric bleed" ?

[thorny aurora]

Better to have a tough choice over shit options

But yeah it is !

[royal lantern]

you realise that this includes fights where the general line of thought is "i cant do my aoe here, so im just going full ST and let others handle it"

[normal mist]

Tryan look at my rashan kill

[royal lantern]

wtf are your guys doing

[normal mist]

I objectively correct to say assa is a beast

[royal lantern]

400k dps??

[normal mist]

Ahahahahah

[marsh grail]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[normal mist]

Reminder that we are casuals, and when I say we I say them

I'm pumping

[raven egret]

Damn, is there enough space under the bus for you to be throwing so many people under it?

[normal mist]

But it's the first time in a long time we actually have some good people (they recently joined the guild)

[normal mist]

Yeah we don't mind, we all friends here

No sweaty doods yelling in discord

It's just

https://tenor.com/view/aaaa-hola-como-andy-martino-dance-gif-18551524

(it took me this long to find this gif)

[royal lantern]

@normal mist im scared

[normal mist]

How come

[royal lantern]

i look like a m+ andy

[normal mist]

Embrace what you are

[royal lantern]

next thing im asking about double vanish

[normal mist]

Oh no

[raven egret]

I have a filthy Arcane mage that beat me on Rash....

[normal mist]

It's spreading

[royal lantern]

and they should lol

[normal mist]

You gotta pump more

[royal lantern]

like, you cant even cleave on rash

[soft shale]

wtb trink that increases my agi by 20k

and also stacks agi meanwhile

[shy pecan]

[raven egret]

I TRY

[shy pecan]

I’m telling

Tryan, famed M+ player

[normal mist]

That's really good tho

[raven egret]

yeah I'm 100% swapping off spatter if we take Rash again

[royal lantern]

its kinda funny, you think "oh cool, gonna cleave the adds a bit"

NOPE

[raven egret]

damn usless to try to hit adds with them other tryhards around me

[royal lantern]

RANGE TOO SHORT

[normal mist]

You know what makes me happy

Waiting for roots to drop on queen

[shy pecan]

He’s gonna say tmog of the month

Oh

[normal mist]

Also #1262437829150113855

[shy pecan]

Knew it

[normal mist]

You started it

[shy pecan]

You linked it

[normal mist]

I wouldn't leave you hanging

[shy pecan]

I’m not going in there

[normal mist]

I tried

[high sundial]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[raven egret]

I was going to click, but then, I hesitated

[bronze plover]

does this combo works for assa?

[soft shale]

yes

[normal mist]

Anything does

[bronze plover]

i mean for high tier raiding

[normal mist]

You mean mythic?

[bronze plover]

yeah i got confused tbh between treasures and spyglass or arakara

[normal mist]

Im aiming to get skardyn and a good passive one

ATM I'm with queens trinket + serum

And I don't like it

[raven egret]

I got stuck with a Mythic Sacbrood in my vault this week. Filthy 639 sacbrood poluting my character now.

[bronze plover]

as i see in bloodmallet differences between teasures and skardyn is like 0.08% at same ilvl

is it worth to farm it while i have trasures hero

[normal mist]

I would personally prefer skardyn, but it's a sim angle

[raven egret]

I 100% want Skardyn, and I am sick. TO DEATH, of running Grim Batol already

but I can't stop.... this is my life now

[normal mist]

I really understand the feeling

You can't quit now

[mystic kettle]

Mate I felt like this

I've just got 4set last night, hoping to see some dps increase

[raven egret]

Our set is... one of the sets... of all time. For sure, that it is.

[mystic kettle]

Is it terrible hahaah

[royal lantern]

well

1,2%

[mystic kettle]

Just reading up on it now from Whispyr's guide

[royal lantern]

make of that what you will

[mystic kettle]

1.2%?

[royal lantern]

ye, 2 and 4 set are both each 1,2%

[mystic kettle]

What's the point of it lol

[wispy bane]

For me its 2.2 according to sims. From 2 to 4 piece. Equal ilvl

[royal lantern]

too make the "OMG TIER SETS ARE THE BEST THING EVERRRRRRRR" crowd shut up

[normal mist]

I got 2.4 for getting 4pc

[mystic kettle]

fml man

[raven egret]

That is a fact. A fact that is real, a real fact that is factually a fact.

[zealous wolf]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[royal lantern]

tbh, the S1 sets are supposed to be low impact

but assa is just one of those where its exceptionaly weak

[mystic kettle]

Fairs

I'll take the 1.2%

[zealous wolf]

can you get the queen ring from vault? idk if you can get like a 619 version?

[naive crane]

On hero track it will be 626 in vault

Champ 619 i guess

[naive yacht]

Privet,

Question: Assasination Rogue, M+, from 0 to 4 I heard that it is best to use the bleed build
Correct?

[marsh grail]

im no expert or anything but i think this is a tiny bit cooked

unless im out of touch

or mby not cuz zoldyc and sd insta bled? idk

[raven egret]

The guide you took that from quite clearly answers that question

[devout schooner]

Why is everyone crafting waep embelishment with the enhance embelishment and not double dawnthread?

[royal lantern]

cus it doesnt make a big difference and free almost max lvl weapon is free almost max lvl weapon

[raven egret]

I made double dawnthread. The reason so many did Ascension is because a) its a viable choice and b) community perception of Ascencion 'dominance' over multiple specs

[quartz osprey]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[devout schooner]

But now you can have 3 crafted items you can have dagger with no emb and double dawn on 2 leather pieces right?

[raven egret]

so yeah I made 2 dawnthread, and I did craft a dagger this week, we have so many sparks already

[devout schooner]

Yea same, so thats also good I assume then

[raven egret]

yeah theres no real wrong answer, basically using your spark to upgrade whatever low ilvl pieces you still have, which you can sim, is the best use for sparks.

[devout schooner]

And if I have a giga belt already its also finde if I craft dawnthread on wrist+chest (having 4 pc on the others pfc)

[raven egret]

getting a 636 weapon is good regardless if you dont have mythics ones already

[raven egret]

I would heavily not recomment using a Tier slot for embelish if it can be avoided, mainly because as you keep gearing up, having the flexibility to change your tier pieces around is better than to be stuck with only 4 out of 5 possible slots

wrists, belt. If not possible, cloak, or maybe even boots

[devout schooner]

Alright, boots it is then for me
Thanks

[naive crane]

@raven egret how much haste you run atm?

[novel star]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[raven egret]

uh, something something numbers, think I'm around 15%

[dark talon]

I believe it's more due to the fact, that dawnthread is ahead only with 80% uptime or more. During early progress, missing gear and in part unknown mechanics / no clean movement, for most this is not achievable

[raven egret]

its such a minimal % difference it does not matter, being 'ahead' means near nothing in this case

like seriously its not going to make or break your DPS either way

[dark talon]

Just saying it's the reason me and other rogues in guild are using Ascension + bands

[desert pollen]

Hey guys, sorry if it has been answered already - shower thoughts.
When we refer to 4+ / 5+ combo envenoms, should I still aim for max combo or can I just go for the minimum combo option?

[dark talon]

Because the wowhead guide explicitly states the % uptime

[chilly glen]

would you get less crit and more mastery? numbers are: Crit 16148 - Cele 7698 - Mastery 6721 .

[raven egret]

Sim your character

that is all

its not something we can tell you to do

[spiral escarp]

Hi, a question regarding stats.
Currently mastery/haste is highest simming patchwork secondary stats.
Yet crit/versa are very close.
For m+ mastery/crit are best, having versa and haste close behind.
Is there any expectation that as our ilevel increases haste will lose some value? That is, I am having a dilemma as to what stats to craft my dagger with.
Any considerations are welcome 🙏

[dark talon]

But yes, peanuts

[molten scroll]

o/ isnt 2x focusing lense a thing as embellish for m+ only ? On spreadsheet its written thats bis but on discord ppls talk about 2x dawnthread idk why

[raven egret]

Same answer as the above one - sim your character, that will guide your decisions better

[spiral escarp]

To add context I am raiding and doing m+ so…

[spice surge]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[raven egret]

Eleem coming in clutch with the ! that I should've remembered exist

[spiral escarp]

I don’t see how your answer is helpful.
I already simmed and stated what stats are currently best. But the question is related to how/if these are expected to change. It has always been crit/mastery for assa in the past.

[raven egret]

I mean you just re-sim as you gear up

[strange python]

You get a drop - you sim it

Shrimple as that

[raven egret]

changes will happen based on what gear you have, trinkets, procs, and eventually when we his stat soft caps later this xpac

[spiral escarp]

Yeah, i am cheap and wanted to avoid recrafting a dagger :/

Already spend 100k on mats and wonder if mastery/haste is expected to stay the bis stats for rogues.

[strange python]

It won’t make a difference

Sin really

Doesn’t care about stats

I guess vers is worse but

Ur good

[spiral escarp]

So, mastery/crit should be safe to go with for the long run?

[raven egret]

yeah, most of your stat balance is on Rings, Neck, enchants and gems, you can always tweak those around to adjust as per sims

[zealous wolf]

are there like "set in stone" bis trinkets for us or its just whatever matches your stats and sims best?

[raven egret]

the secondary stat value on weapons isn't that significant

[past panther]

Jewelry is where the secondarys really matter, right?

[royal lantern]

skardyns from grim batol

[raven egret]

Skardyn 100%

[royal lantern]

and like, 6 different passive trinkets with it

[zealous wolf]

yea i was thinking on the 2nd one, forgot to mention that xd

like ritual knife sims best for me for dungeon slice

with skardyns

i guess its not worth it to use 2 on use trinkets?

so ska+ passive

is the queen ring so big for us? its like +20k dps for me, but i have shit rings so idk if its just stats or the passive dmg is also good

[raven egret]

its bis ring for a lot of specs, any item with full stat value + an extra effect usually is to begin with

[rocky sluice]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[novel star]

5am pug smoothest key ive ever done

what fucking ever man

[gentle apex]

Damn 1.52M overall

What ilvl?

[novel star]

614

i did 1.7 earlier

[gentle apex]

Did the tank chain pull

[novel star]

was actually a competition this key

everyone was gaming

[novel star]

kinda

like half and half

but mostly yes iirc

[gentle apex]

What's the damage breakdown

[novel star]

the usual

i think i just suck at ct uptime sometimes

but whatever

[crisp pine]

It's actually so funny to see how sad Kingsbane is nowadays lmao

[novel star]

thats a skill issue tbf

[gentle apex]

Interesting. Garrote and Rupture are always my top dps

[novel star]

only 16 casts

[gentle apex]

Maybe I should get spatter up earlier

[novel star]

if your top isnt caustic or ct ur doin smth wrong

spatter one of the most broken talents ever

actually vile game design

[zealous wolf]

is there a point in spamming CT or just get it up and spam envenoms for poison bomb?

[novel star]

no, spamming ct is bad

[gentle apex]

I'm always opening packs with garrote garrote rupt rupt Fok FoK crimson tempest

[novel star]

and spamming envenoms isnt for poison bomb its for caustic spatter damage

[zealous wolf]

thought so ty

[novel star]

poison bomb is just cake

[gentle apex]

What does your pack setup look like

[novel star]

my wha

like weakauras?

[gentle apex]

No like when you see the tank pull and you're going in

[novel star]

oh idk i just do the opener from wowhead

and if its a chain pull i just fan/rupture until theres 5

[crisp pine]

If the mobs get obliterated quick your bleeds might do more damage than caustic

[novel star]

ive just been spamming 9s

so

mobs survive kb every time

[crisp pine]

9s are high enough for you to pump, yea

[novel star]

shit fucking cranks

[crisp pine]

but like idk
in a 4 it's a lil unlucky still

[novel star]

ya

low keys u kinda struggle

i mean i was still top dam in low keys cus people just arent locked in but yeah

[gentle apex]

So full bleed build for under 5?

[novel star]

it feels good being in a group that plays the game and numbers actually look correct

last in dam on bosses but top overall

as god intended

[crisp pine]

You'll still get good caustic damage in keys under 5

Just less than in higher keys

[cerulean compass]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[novel star]

ya i mean i was playing hybrid even in m0 week

it depends on group just as much as key level tbh

[crisp pine]

Ya
and people are starting to gear up now

So damage is gonna be higher ofc

[normal mist]

Hopefully with great gear comes greater braincells

[quartz osprey]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[static glacier]

cope

[royal lantern]

617 and still dumb AF

[real pike]

europoor that just woke up here

no GCD from feint is AMAZING

[raven egret]

619 - it doesn't get better here either

dumb as a kite

[static glacier]

im 620 and doing less dps than 616

my ilvl progressed while output regressed

[swift sage]

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[quick shore]

Guys which dagger shall i craft? Siphoning Stiletto or Everforged? and which embelishments are the best? crit or the other 2 combined?

[weary juniper]

3rd benefit, if talented improved garrote 😄

[weary juniper]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[potent moon]

does anyone know how to show bonespike dmg in warcraftlogs? for some reason it doesn't show up anywhere

[balmy condor]

under rupture

[static glacier]

for sin everforged with ascension is ideal for raiding, if you care mainly about keys lining can be an angle

[grand trail]

Guys I hear that streamer now run int dagger, is it better than agi one now?

[normal mist]

Everforged with AGILITY

[balmy condor]

I laughed

[normal kindle]

LOL

[potent moon]

does it count the initial spike hit dmg too?

[balmy condor]

yes

[potent moon]

sweet thanks

[balmy condor]

it's a little folder

you can click it

and extend the list

[potent moon]

mmmh, i do indeed seem to be blind, thx

[weary juniper]

I was just checking my logs xd

[balmy condor]

the small bone spike is the hit

[balmy condor]

the big one is the dot

[grand trail]

I mean he pick socket over mythic chest too

[uneven widget]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[grand trail]

So he is cooking

[royal lantern]

who is that

[potent moon]

i literally didn't see the fold down, was away for too long, thx X)

[balmy condor]

the guy with no chill

[royal lantern]

zero?

[grand trail]

Zero The Crafter

[weary juniper]

Share his raid parse

[grand trail]

I think he

[raven egret]

Your buddy needs to go read guides on his own

[strange python]

"raid mate" 👀

[lapis lantern]

hey sweethearts - so i build a dagger with ascendance and a belt with the nerubian buff. any recommandations for my third omen build?

[sturdy mesa]

[grand trail]

Btw what happen3d to fatebound? Last time I saw sims from !fuu it was ahead but yet nobody play it. Just curious

[normal mist]

I'm no sweetheart

[lapis lantern]

yes you are 😗

[normal mist]

Fuck, maybe I am

[lapis lantern]

now u got it :3

[normal mist]

Well since I can't get crests for 639 yet I crafted a ring

619 ring double socket

STONKS

[grand trail]

Ring is good crest saver

[strange python]

What ring

[grand trail]

Crafted

[lapis lantern]

what about big wrist with the secondary stat buff?

[normal mist]

You mean embellishment?

[lapis lantern]

yes

[weary juniper]

He delete the log asking for his friend? Xd

[normal mist]

Don't you already have weapon + belt?

[lapis lantern]

oh or do i only cant get 2 embs?

[normal mist]

Yeah

[lapis lantern]

ah i remember

[normal mist]

Only 2 emb

[lapis lantern]

nvm then 😄

ty : *

[normal mist]

Now it's probably the time you craft to fill bad slots

[grand trail]

I'm pretty sure my wrist will be chilling at 619 for some time not really worth 90 crest

[lapis lantern]

=] i see

[balmy condor]

why the fuck y'all chase the guy away with the log

[grand trail]

What log

[raven egret]

we did?

[normal mist]

Maybe he got embarrassed

[rotund oak]

[grand trail]

No log shaming

[balmy condor]

you apes

[strange python]

[balmy condor]

log review

[grand trail]

I Gray parsed rashan

[raven egret]

I mean 'What can you tell me to tell the other dude' like.... wut

[balmy condor]

oh

he's not even here anymore

just straight left the server

[grand trail]

He got the RH experience

[rotund oak]

[strange python]

It was definitely him not his friend tho

[balmy condor]

incredible work team

[normal mist]

What happened tho

[balmy condor]

dude looking for help and just gets laughed at

[grand trail]

By who tho

Just name and shame

[rotund oak]

that was stupid,we dont like ppl running away from rogue discord,we want them in

[normal mist]

But honestly

No one was rude

[balmy condor]

I mean like why

[raven egret]

Wasnt trying to be mean but like if the guy wants to improve he needs to step up himself

[balmy condor]

????

[royal lantern]

if somebody wants to improve, going to a class discord is a big step lol

[balmy condor]

y'all never wanted to help a friend before?

fucking weirdos

[normal mist]

I actually did... During SL. Never again

[weary juniper]

A question...., 1st week on rogue, the gear is ok but no tier etc etc and embelish for M+, i made a 91% parse , using the wowh tree for princess, i know on another bosses (adds ) i perform worse, but wana foucus on single ones first, where do u think i fail? So i can train it to do it better next time.
The 1st mistake i see, is a bad use of vanish, need to train it,
Anything else?
https://es.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6Lr91Rcaq7QzwJZy#fight=28&type=summary&source=56

[real pike]

what the fuck is a "friend"?

[raven egret]

^ thats a big part of it

[strange python]

Ayo what did I do

[rotund oak]

the human female hair is the last thing keeping me from swapping mechagnome

i swear

[normal mist]

Looking bad so you can do bigger number

Bad tradeoff

[rotund oak]

[balmy condor]

log time

[reef axle]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spiral quest]

Hey, a little help pls, should I get Dead-Eye Spyglass from vault or dagger? hero track both

[normal mist]

Sim

[exotic gale]

does tricks bug out deathstalker's mark via ambush, or am i losing my mind?

[normal mist]

I've personally never seen that happen

[real pike]

YO is that what it is

[exotic gale]

i think so, in delves i did not get it then tested that out

hitting gym rn, gonna clip it later on

[real pike]

nah I swear to god my DsM has been dropping randomly in encounters and I've been too distracted to notice exactly when or why

but it's made me feel like I'm going crazy

[rotund oak]

it doesnt bug out for me,idk what that means tbh

[fleet copper]

hello, any tips for being very energy starved in long raid fights? feels like when my cds are gone i deal almost no damage and lose a ton of dps

[rotund oak]

what exactly happens?

[exotic gale]

when ever you are ambushing from stealth with tricks open, your ambush doesnt grant you the mark

[rotund oak]

[exotic gale]

you can try it on a delve, tricks bran and attack a mob, no mark will be there

vanish and it reappears

[royal lantern]

!desing

[rotund oak]

maybe its a weird bran interaction fam

[real pike]

I'll be doing mechanics and my rotation and suddenly there's no mark on any enemy when everything has died and nowhere near 30 seconds for it to time out

[royal lantern]

damm

[rotund oak]

it never happens on m+

[royal lantern]

whats the command again

[normal mist]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[grand trail]

Man I'm losing ramdomly mark left and right in keys

I basically use vanish for reapply only

[real pike]

yeah next time it happens I'll clip and rewatch

[rotund oak]

platter with maximized frame on that mfk@r

[real pike]

I'm sure there's something fucky going on

[exotic gale]

cheers

[grand trail]

It's not that

It just some bosses or mobs just drop it

[rotund oak]

ah i c

bloodworkers do that

[fleet copper]

thanks, so its better to not spam mutilate for combo points if i dont need to re evenom?

[grand trail]

Because they don't die or so

[rotund oak]

yeah

they reset

[grand trail]

It till me hard

[rotund oak]

yeah same

[normal mist]

Yeah you want to play around having the maximum up time on the envenom buff

[amber brook]

I thought I was the only one

[royal lantern]

yeha, im just to stupid to write design

[rotund oak]

also on mistcaller in mists sometimes u lose the mark on minigame

[real pike]

yo does anyone know how to use plater and can help me with how to change an enemy colour based on a debuff that's on them

[normal mist]

I also advise you to read a guide @fleet copper

[rotund oak]

randomly doesnt apply on dn doesnt trigger

[quartz osprey]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[royal lantern]

somebody just linked this in guild discord

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392807916543017000/1288798492093059113/image.png?ex=66f67ea1&is=66f52d21&hm=ff0a7f7d2563b91d2d19cf7c94fb3ae46e56387f1d0520f781ce1aee1c29d933&

what a fucking chad that shaman is

[normal mist]

That's embarrassing to read

[potent raven]

lol

[topaz isle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[raven egret]

Bro, it costs precious mana!

[normal mist]

[brittle swift]

Do you have a platter profile you Can share ? ^^

[normal mist]

!wa

[brittle swift]

Nvm

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[normal mist]

Up there

[brittle swift]

Yeah i saw it After asking ty

[real pike]

anyone know where in plater settings you can change plate colour based on debuff? I want to update Ceverion's to go purple on DsM

[fleet copper]

what is evenom applying that i need to keep track off? doesnt say in tooltip

[normal mist]

The envenom buff

[fleet copper]

amplifying potion? sorry im new to this

[normal kindle]

Just read the PIN about Bumbling WAX i farmed them so bad so i can have like 300 BBW.... Now useless i m crying cause my off hand is 619...

[faint path]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[faint path]

Guys what u think about 1x dagger with ascension and 1x dawnthread for m+?

[raven egret]

tooltips

[crude trail]

Is there still some jankiness with 2x dawnthread lining? Or does it just work?

[faint path]

isn't it working? its working for me

[haughty flame]

Hey all, is it safe to omen craft bracers with the crit Embellishment? just dont want to be making a mistake..I see in every guide its bracer + belt (I mainly play m+)

[crude trail]

I know there was some workarounds to make sure it was stacking early on

[raven egret]

Read the !craft above, or here:

[rotund oak]

sim it fam

[raven egret]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[dire slate]

Does any of those platers take "must kick" mobs into consideration?

[rotund oak]

using whispyr's plater

[haughty flame]

cheers 🙂

[dire slate]

like give them a diff colour

[crude trail]

I'm using vesp's plater profile and am finding it intuitive and good. Prio mobs, hard cc and interupt with some extra notice for must interupt casts.

[normal mist]

Read the envenom ability

[normal mist]

!dawnthread

[prisma monolith]

Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.

[crude trail]

ty

[muted hamlet]

Where does the assumption of 80% uptime for dawnthread originate from?

[tepid shale]

Hi guys, do anyone know what's the name of this weakaura ? mine isnt tracking causting spatter etc..

[south lava]

should my ct be more higher?

[rotund oak]

you want a pack that tracks spatter and stuff?Try afenar rogue whispyr edit,or regular one

there is LE's wa pack as well its pretty good

then luxthos

[south lava]

sapzi what do u think

[tepid shale]

yea thats what i want, something clear like this one, thx will check

[rotund oak]

youa re welcome friend

[tepid shale]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[rotund oak]

it looks fine man,normally it varies around 10% or something,maybe a bit less

looks good

[faint path]

whats the name of this embellishment?

[rotund oak]

ur spatter is top,gar/envenom on par

cool stuff,u are doing solid

[south lava]

thanks sap

[marble hemlock]

writhing armor banding

[pastel onyx]

feint off gcd on ptr

[real pike]

Rupture uptime looks kinda low?

[pastel onyx]

neat

[balmy condor]

!dawnthread

[prisma monolith]

Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.

[balmy condor]

oh god

where was I

20 minutes behind

[novel star]

nice one man

W shit

[balmy condor]

fucking hate discord

[novel star]

same!

also today i learned trade chat isn’t cross faction

my area 52 void elf suffering

[balmy condor]

correct

[novel star]

i need this dagger man

[balmy condor]

work orders are cross faction though

so find someone on horde

then log

and send it

[novel star]

do i have to level for that tho

or is lvl70 dorn the same shit

[balmy condor]

I mean just sit in org on a level 3 or something

[novel star]

ic

[balmy condor]

trade chat is global in any town

so you can just monkey run to org

[faint path]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5LP6x2h7589jgr8KQ5VAvg 2x dawn still best for me ok good

[balmy condor]

and then park there

[novel star]

didn’t know that

lmao

is trade chat like the only place where faction “matters” now

[balmy condor]

uhhhhhhh

[novel star]

what a funny issue

[balmy condor]

queueing for heroic dungeons

is faction still

even in party

[vale lantern]

general chat as well

[novel star]

well yeh but that’s getting changed right

[balmy condor]

but yeah chatting is still faction locked

and I think that's kinda it

[novel star]

xdd

[vale lantern]

you can buy a potion and talk to the opposite faction face to face thou

[haughty flame]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dToR89nW5cjf83FM4G9sDU is this right?

[balmy condor]

idk what I'm looking at

but yeah, dawnthread = damage buff

looks okay to me

[haughty flame]

the stats, Haste/mast vs crit/mast

sorry

😄

[novel star]

whispyr

post the emote

you know the one

[balmy condor]

I didn't save it last time

[novel star]

post that little green man

[balmy condor]

but yeh looks like haste/mast, crit/mast, crit/mast wrist, and haste/mast wrist are all equal

welcome to assassination

stats don't fucking matter lmao

[haughty flame]

ty

[balmy condor]

we are blessed to be a spec that just straight up has nothing but good stats

[soft shale]

we take the best stats in town

[vale lantern]

droptimizer looking real good when i only have 3 upgrades left

[novel star]

[viral spire]

Is this misinformation can we get a fact check on this

[balmy condor]

feint off gcd on ptr

it's in blue post

[pastel onyx]

[novel star]

i mean it’s a blue post lol

[balmy condor]

reading is good

[viral spire]

[balmy condor]

would suggest reading

big fan of literacy here

[vale lantern]

i considered copying and pasteing this

[viral spire]

Im in class can’t read patch notes

[novel star]

it’s pretty nice

[balmy condor]

you can't read 1 line of a blue post but you can yap in discord?

[pastel onyx]

we only take the information that u put in pinned Whispyr

[viral spire]

Yes exactly because its 10 min break

[novel star]

can press it in cds without wanting to rip my eyes out

so good change i guess

[viral spire]

And wowhead not accessible

[novel star]

[viral spire]

Third world country

[balmy condor]

mmochamp/icyveins also not accessible?

where do you get news from

[viral spire]

Those are accessible I’m just an ape

[pastel onyx]

class dc

[balmy condor]

I see

[pastel onyx]

ofc

[balmy condor]

understandable

[viral spire]

[novel star]

a courier pigeon brings every blue post to my window

[balmy condor]

nvm

I can't say that

only joke

[pastel onyx]

:d

[novel star]

whispyr that’s racist

[balmy condor]

he said it

not me

[viral spire]

You can if you live in third world country

[novel star]

whispyr.

[balmy condor]

the demon on my shoulder said it

[novel star]

this motherfucker lives in cali and swallows

[hybrid tree]

Does Wax work on Off-Hands again (610 and lower)? or is it still broken?

[balmy condor]

I swallow so hard

[balmy condor]

no, still all the normal bugs

blizzard just swept it under the rug

cause now 90% of the community won't ever give a shit about it

[hybrid tree]

ugh

[novel star]

did we need free whetstones for existing tho

i mean it’d be nice but

[viral spire]

I live in Turkey man, every day I pay taxes to play wow

[hybrid tree]

tbh, it's just flavorful to steal the wax of cobolds before killing gods with it

[balmy condor]

you live inside of a bird?

[viral spire]

I pay taxes for every log I get

[balmy condor]

that's metal as fuck

[viral spire]

Wish dude…

[novel star]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-türkiye-gif-2910338720357160240

[viral spire]

Also just out of curiosity did anyone sim diff embellishments and document it?

[balmy condor]

is turkey still dictator pov or nah

I haven't been paying attention

[viral spire]

Fuu used to do that stuff now I gotta work

[viral spire]

Turbodictator pov now

[balmy condor]

there are legit only 2 options

[viral spire]

We leveled up

[balmy condor]

pog

[normal kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/turkish-man-gif-14733745593859528159

[novel star]

not pog

[balmy condor]

GIGAdictator pov

[pastel onyx]

dont worry he will create his own economy theory and ur inflation will vanish

[balmy condor]

me when I am corrupt government:
haha money

[novel star]

whispyr don’t call turbodictatorship pog

[pastel onyx]

can relate tho

[balmy condor]

okay but

turbodictatorship and IM the dictator

[pastel onyx]

he is a turbodictator of this channel

pog

[balmy condor]

pog

see

he gets it

infidel

speak when spoken to

[pastel onyx]

he earned it by entertaining us, when we watch him mald during theorycrafting on streams

[crisp pine]

I saw someone get publicly executed in here for playing Without a Trace yesterday

[pastel onyx]

[crisp pine]

It's rough

[balmy condor]

it's working

[novel star]

yes supreme leader

[balmy condor]

that's supreme weeber to you

I rule with an iron :3

[rotund oak]

pack ur stuff and leave from the country,whatever country that is

[novel star]

:3

[rotund oak]

it sucks

[novel star]

millions must :3

[pastel onyx]

supreme weeber can you bless me to get a skardin trinket pls

[normal mist]

Shouldn't whispyr be sleeping by now

Someone put him to bed

[balmy condor]

it's 3:45 in the morning why the fuck would I be sleeping

[crisp pine]

omg me me I wanna tuck Whispyr in

[balmy condor]

this is peak whispyr hours

[normal mist]

I wish

I'm almost on lunch break LOL

[rotund oak]

whispyr performs a cthulu summoning with mr chonker(lin)

[balmy condor]

He legit just jumped away

I am hunting him

[rotund oak]

😂

[normal mist]

@balmy condor I finally broke the 1M DPS mark ST

Me happy

[balmy condor]

Pff okay casual

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[normal mist]

You know I'm the guy

That's why I'm green

Y'all needed a casual shit amongst the rankings

[balmy condor]

Nah 1m is big numby

Grats king

[normal mist]

I should also say it was on normal reclear

And no one gives a shit

[balmy condor]

@rotund oak

[novel star]

normal is when you parse

wdym

[normal mist]

@novel star

[crisp pine]

I bricked my ara ara city of hoes +10 yesterday
Can I get a grats too?

[novel star]

ye exactly

[balmy condor]

HOLY HES GOT BIG NUMBER

[pastel onyx]

[balmy condor]

Call the tank a slur and go again brother

[normal mist]

I gotta pump my HC numbers

[balmy condor]

(Do not do that)

[dapper cradle]

what's our bis slur this season?

[novel star]

what’s your go to slur whispyr

[balmy condor]

Pause

[pastel onyx]

its thirworldcountry liver

i believe

[novel star]

go on

[balmy condor]

…chain puller?

[dapper cradle]

whispyr's bottom lip is trembling

he wants to say the gamer word

[crisp pine]

bahaha filthy chain puller

[balmy condor]

Water

[crisp pine]

I leave the dungeon immediately
When I'm out of stealth for more than 10 Seconds at a time

[balmy condor]

Without a trace-er

Its just water

Fucking water

[novel star]

i’m already tracer

[radiant yoke]

I have a question boys & girls

[crisp pine]

that's me

[novel star]

that’s not me

i cant answer

unlucky :(

[dapper cradle]

whispyr really putting the DISCRIMINATE in indiscrimnate carnage

[balmy condor]

What are your preferred pronouns so I can commit a respectful hate crime against you

[novel star]

them goat

[radiant yoke]

What is the cast sequence for burst vs like 10-15 second pulls

[rotund oak]

😍

[crisp pine]

re/stealth

[balmy condor]

There’s a pipebomb in thems mailbox

[crisp pine]

Man I hope they remove carnage

[novel star]

that’s

[crisp pine]

I wanna see people mald

[dapper cradle]

wtf carnage is based

[normal mist]

People already are

[novel star]

not how that

gn

[glacial crypt]

easy mission you got this

[balmy condor]

Wait 30s

My gifs aren’t loading

[novel star]

yes supreme weeber

[radiant yoke]

Like, to compete against these bursty warriors... Feels kind of bad to apply too many garrote etc

[sturdy stirrup]

craft int dagger like me and you're gonna be fine

[glacial crypt]

now hang on

how demon is your schedule

what time is it where u are

[novel star]

me?

[glacial crypt]

yes

[novel star]

it’s uh

[glacial crypt]

assuming you're NA

[novel star]

6:51 AM

[normal mist]

When I'm raiding HC I actually try to do mechanics properly and help, so I don't mind parsing lower if I can help the team down the boss

[glacial crypt]

LMFAO

GET TO SLEEP

[novel star]

(:

[glacial crypt]

I've been waking up at 6am for ages now 😭

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/pipebomb-gif-21727153

[glacial crypt]

There aren't any

just press your silly buttons

[void vigil]

I'm used to playing a lot of sub but assa is looking stronger, question is, is there a point in switching if i've never played assa ? Like are they similar in any way or do i have to learn from scratch ?

[crisp pine]

They both have stealth

[glacial crypt]

Assa is very easy

[normal mist]

I do that 😦

[glacial crypt]

Like

[sturdy stirrup]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/816403895210606693/817586492985311232/image0.gif

[rotund oak]

try 5:30 for an hour's run 😉

[glacial crypt]

if you've been playing DS sub then you'll have an easy time with assa

[radiant sentinel]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[glacial crypt]

it's just slot so you might need to get used to pooling

[novel star]

i have no job or school and my NA friends are all degen too and my internet wife is eu

[balmy condor]

Woah dude just doxxed me wtf

[novel star]

this schedule works fine

[grim jay]

wish I could do that to the one guy a guildie brought to the discord. hes the freaking definition of an m+ andy and believes that every fotm m+ push guy knows more about specs than the dedicated players

[void vigil]

okay thank you very much i'll give it a shot 🙂

[grim jay]

[glacial crypt]

waking up and going running is HORRIBLE

[normal mist]

No don't kill assa

He's friendly

[glacial crypt]

I get up early to shower before uni

but frick running

key is starting

so im running away

[novel star]

okay thank you supreme weeber goodnight now

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-morgen-meercat-schlafen-müde-gif-14852645

[rotund oak]

works for me,even when i was back in university ild wake up early to lift,now im just running by the beach.Come back shower and off to work 😄

fills me with energy

[balmy condor]

Gn oli with 15 i’s sleep well

[novel star]

is it 15

[crisp pine]

did you count

[balmy condor]

I did not

[novel star]

it’s gotta be like 23

i didn’t count either

[crisp pine]

seems way more than 15

[balmy condor]

I will count

[normal mist]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[balmy condor]

Gn oli with 30 i’s

[grim jay]

can confirm those are 30

[novel star]

30 flat no way

i added a random extra amount recently

[balmy condor]

Well ol+30

Is 32

Maybe name limit?

[novel star]

nah

[balmy condor]

32 is a programmer number

[novel star]

it can go more

[balmy condor]

Damn

Just skill

[grim jay]

show us how many more

[balmy condor]

No pls

[crisp pine]

The raw dedication

[balmy condor]

I don’t want to count i’s

[drifting cedar]

If big dagger in main hand do we still go for 636 crafted with ascendance in offhand or 2x lining elsewhere?

[novel star]

too many inputs on mobile

[novel star]

armor

[balmy condor]

You can do either

[novel star]

offhand ilvl sucky wucky

:3

[drifting cedar]

Ty pals

[grim jay]

not much worse than ring for me tbf

if I had to craft the ring on mastery vers

bcs sub aswell

[balmy condor]

[lime sequoia]

Not sure if this is known already but the hour tricks buff from trickster stays when switching specs, so far only tested in delves

[balmy condor]

Yeah

Sometimes it works

Sometimes it doesn’t

It’s very cool

[grim jay]

I didnt craft it, was just curious, dont judge me daddy whispyr

[lime sequoia]

Thank you blizzard

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

It worked like 6 delves in a row for me and then i walked into delve #7 and the mobs just snapped to me and gangbanged my ass

[grim jay]

would just not do it tho, because bug

[balmy condor]

Was incredible stuff

Evergreen content or whatever

[grim jay]

also why are you still doing delves people

[lime sequoia]

wasn't intentional but was trying new stuff to clear a t9 solo

[latent crystal]

Some mobs in delve ignore my tricks even if I'm staying on sub.

[balmy condor]

Doing delves as assa outside of gigabursting the boss at the end is honestly miserable

I’m gonna be honest

[dapper cradle]

there's a delay in brann unstealthing, so if you tricks him while still in stealth, it can just reset the boss

[balmy condor]

This spec fucking blows

[dapper cradle]

super sick

[crisp pine]

outlaw is nice in delves

[grim jay]

I thought sub and outlaw got it easy with 1h tricks

[balmy condor]

I know

I play outlaw in delves

[grim jay]

but brother, on my frostmage

I can just clear everything

easily

[balmy condor]

Yeah

[grim jay]

with 590 ilvl

[balmy condor]

Ret just presses W

[novel star]

hey take that back

[balmy condor]

No

[novel star]

i like assassination rogue :(

[balmy condor]

assa is easily in contention to be the worst delve spec in the game

[novel star]

oh for delves only

[balmy condor]

I don’t think it’s a hard argument

[novel star]

yeah

[balmy condor]

This shit is turboaids

[novel star]

i am also playing outlaw and throwing up in my mouth

to make delves easy

[grim jay]

would you work on your biggest agi pieces for upgrades or just yoink the mythic shoulder to max because wont replace anyways, so cant waste crests?

[celest marlin]

Queestion

now that wax is no bueno, what do we use?

[balmy condor]

I did the latter for my vault

[zealous wolf]

how do ppl do like 2m dps on brood? is there a cheese strat or something?