assassination

[steel ridge]

and very close to bis in ST

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/p29bzVl.jpeg

brother you good?

[balmy condor]

fuck no I'm not

[grim jay]

ye, I sadly got mythic set piece yet again

im cursed

on vaults

[novel star]

i wish i was in ovinax prison

[steel ridge]

ye had some mythic shoulders aswell, but nah, trinkets gonna haunt me otherwise

[novel star]

i’m gonna be in ulgrax prison again this weekend if these bitches don’t lock in

[steel ridge]

never again am i picking tier above trinket

[balmy condor]

[steel ridge]

its just less headache

[novel star]

not really prison

but like

yea

[balmy condor]

like first boss ulgrax

the eat bug

[novel star]

spent like an hour pulling it and people just kept falling over to nothing

idk

what happened even

[balmy condor]

aw hell nah

you're fried

[novel star]

i have to get out of this place

[balmy condor]

baked like a bean

[novel star]

please

[balmy condor]

it's joever

[novel star]

that boss literally doesn’t do anything

and people just die

[balmy condor]

yeh

[novel star]

i don’t understand

[balmy condor]

it's 2 mechanics

[slim hedge]

Skill issues or healer issues?

[novel star]

i like the vibe of this guild i applied to and i did apply to some low rank bullshit intentionally cus i haven’t played in a long time but Waow

[queen galleon]

Got a boralus 10 thanks god it got nerfed

[novel star]

skill but probably a little both

[slim hedge]

Got me that 11 Mists, shame already timed it.

[queen galleon]

free quick chest

so not a lost

[regal cloud]

Would u take a sacbrood or a chest for 4p in vault ?

[south tide]

I got a question, so after like 20-30 runs of grim batol and not even seeing skardyn drop once, i got treachourus transmitter in vault, would it be stupid of me to pick it or should i just pick a set piece and continue to farm skardyn? I see alot of melee in liquid have been running it

[queen galleon]

Treacherous transmitter is something man, U will love it when you hear "jump" and hate it when the aoe is legit in the one shot mechanic

[slim hedge]

We had a 601 hpriest, but wasn't the worst throughput. Had one of the big key pushers go pres and suddenly it became just skill issues

[raven panther]

Does the Sureki zealot Insigna isn't getting the proc in sim ? Because I simmed it with an other 626 neck, and the other neck was above, even withtout having the extra proc from Sureki. Is sureki really that strong ?

[novel star]

transmitter very good numbers but is difficult to use

[chilly mist]

Clear hc first 🙂

[cinder pebble]

You guys crafting ring/neck with the new spark?

[glossy grove]

would you choose transmitter over skardyns?, or would you take them both?

[chilly mist]

and skardyn is technically infinitely farmable so

[grim jay]

rwf guilds also didnt farm a ton of m+, so rather unsurprising

[queen galleon]

Transmitter when it's the purple orb to take and it's under a 100000 km boss

[novel star]

yea idk i haven’t even really looked at logs much cause it’s just kind of who cares at that point

[cinder pebble]

^ this

[south tide]

Ah, thanks for le answers!

[balmy condor]

it's one or the other

[glossy grove]

What would you use?

[queen galleon]

Skardyns

[balmy condor]

I'd much prefer skardyns

[slim hedge]

I'd choose Skard given the option

[queen galleon]

transmitter can be annoying

[balmy condor]

exile plays transmitter cause it's just a free 626

[queen galleon]

2 of the 3 minigame can bait you to death

[normal mist]

Who is exile

[worthy bear]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[novel star]

liquid rogue

[normal mist]

And why have I seen his name so often

Ohhh

[sly ore]

does the talents (raid) on wowhead consider 4p?

[glossy grove]

alright, what would you use as 2nd trinket for m+/raid? its very difficult for me to figure it out

[chrome dirge]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[glossy grove]

cause sims are trolling me a bit

Would you use Spyglass? / Ara-kara trinket?

[normal mist]

Ofc

[sudden brook]

Contract

[zinc frost]

PoE player

[novel star]

i would use whatever passive trinket sims the best

[grim jay]

how would they troll you

[novel star]

i don’t know what you mean by trolling

[queen galleon]

ara kara one

[glossy grove]

I literally changed nothing, and spyglass simmed much higher than ara kara trinket 1 day ago

before reset

but now, its just simming higher in m+

[queen galleon]

weird since

the arakara one beat the spyglass on every sim at every ilvl

[worthy bear]

when do we get third spark?

[glossy grove]

Alright, is the ara kara trinket the best option as 2nd trinket?

[queen galleon]

what's your crit

[glossy grove]

for m+/st

32

[queen galleon]

3 target and +

u want the spyglass

st u want ara kara

[chilly mist]

Should be this week?

[glossy grove]

ffs, i hate it to farm 3 trinkets

[grim jay]

it is this week

[glossy grove]

but probably the best option rn

[chilly mist]

There's also another very strong option for m+

https://tenor.com/view/knife-gif-22561522

[distant plinth]

This week, i crafted my 3rd item earlier

[cinder pebble]

what did you get?

[queen galleon]

SIKRAN ENJOYER

[chilly mist]

almost, not quite

[distant plinth]

Went for cloak this week

[queen galleon]

[cinder pebble]

Not sure whether to craft dagger offhand or ring

[cinder pebble]

Any reason? Just because you got the most upgrade?

[steel ridge]

why would you craft dagger offhand

[distant plinth]

!offhand

[distant plinth]

Offhand gives u 0gain basicly, craft another slot

[steel ridge]

craft ring, get sockets and be happy

[cinder pebble]

ah yes I remember.

[grim jay]

but you can get sockets anyways

[hexed niche]

Hi, I am new to rogue class, can I ask some help with weekly vault here, or it has separate channel for that ?

[distant plinth]

Yea it was my worst slot, i spent a free crest from renown so i didnt borher thinking too much of it

[steel ridge]

but socket item is like 12k alone

and you will not replace the ring most likely

[balmy condor]

why tf mandate + skardyns simming so low

[steel ridge]

so its a good option if gold is an issue and still a good option if you are filthy rich

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna throw a fit

[novel star]

through

[pine cave]

hey why bubling wex not working ?

[balmy condor]

fuck you oli

[steel ridge]

double on use?

[balmy condor]

pins

[distant plinth]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[novel star]

:3

[pine cave]

!wex

[balmy condor]

[cinder pebble]

Ah yeah. Have pretty much 1000 slots where I could put the spark :p

[novel star]

why’s it doing that

[sudden brook]

Nice apl

[balmy condor]

brother I have no idea

[novel star]

you made the sims man

figure it out

[balmy condor]

it should prio stat trinkets

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

maybe I broke it when I tried to fix transmitter for the 28th time

[normal mist]

You can drop the image but 99% sure the answer is "sim it"

[zinc frost]

You could’ve fixed wax instead jeez

[hexed niche]

I have simmed it, but I found the sim strange
It sims this Scroll of momentum better than Spyglass, which is given as S tier trinket:
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/a4VjbxuwYyoJgPYWTCaJMj

I only care about raid sim here, so i have simmed patchwerk

[grim jay]

crafting big agi slots still always better unless you will get that one in the foreseeable future

[novel star]

ignore the tier list

[cinder pebble]

why ring over neck? Because we can just farm "1 slot" and we have 2 slots to farm for good rings?

[novel star]

delve trinkets are “low tier” because you cant get them on myth track

[real pike]

mythic skardyn's grace and a mists 10, might be the best vault blizz has ever given me 😮

[novel star]

that’s it really

[hexed niche]

So I should trust this Sim and get the delve trinket over the Myth ring? Although the ring has versa and haste which I believe are not that good

[normal mist]

All stats are good

[real pike]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[chilly mist]

In ST with enough crit mastery all stats become very similar in value

[hexed niche]

okay, got it, so I will trust the sim then

[novel star]

just be aware scroll of momentum encourages you to sprint for dps which is a little cringe

[steel ridge]

well ring is less rng, cause you still have another slot for a good drop

[glacial stump]

Youre simming M+ talents on a ST dummy

[novel star]

but yeah it’s pretty good

[hexed niche]

ah, thanks for noticing. I will run another sim

[glacial stump]

was gonna say like 800k seems lowfor a 612

[balmy condor]

I deleted a conditional on mandate by accident I'm gonna lose it

[chilly mist]

will sim later when im not feeling lazy but any input?

a bit of a keychain fan

[real pike]

legs for catalyst?

[chilly mist]

and legs wont be untill 7th boss anyway

[balmy condor]

yeh leg into cata

[novel star]

take contract

[chilly mist]

yeah thinking that

have contract

[novel star]

oh

lucky freak

[kind forge]

why are you simming patchwork in m+ talents ?

[chilly mist]

our split rogue got double hc daggers first week, wouldnt say that

[novel star]

oh owned

[chilly mist]

cried a bit

[novel star]

but also what why

who would give two daggers to one rogue instead of giving both rogues a good mh

[chilly mist]

on my main run none dropped, when i ran alt he got the drops

[novel star]

ah

[chilly mist]

sorry im not functional until +2 cups of coffee

[novel star]

so actually just unlucky

[distant plinth]

Thats when you swap main🤣

[grim jay]

or just craft a dagger

[chilly mist]

haha y

[grim jay]

like a smart guy

[distant plinth]

Or what she said

[novel star]

tomorrow probably

[royal lantern]

is that guys long lost brother

[novel star]

assuming this group of players with fingers

invites me again

so i can do more 9s

instead of pugging shit

[grim jay]

I still have 180 myth crests

[novel star]

sick flex bro iim poor and cant feed mt family

[grim jay]

I'm kinda tempted to just craft a dagger myself

but I also kinda want to wait for bloodbound later

[distant plinth]

Wtf why are you holding?

Saving the giga powerspike🥶

[royal lantern]

saaame

[grim jay]

I was only upgrading my trinkets, no reason to use them on anything else before I know if I gotta craft or upgrade a dagger

[royal lantern]

the second im crafzing a dagger, double drop on bloodbound

[proud mason]

i got either 626 very rare neck and my only myth track gear is some bracers, i should still get the myth track and craft 636 somewhere else right ?

[grim jay]

probably

thats kinda what I fear aswell

[novel star]

sim it

probably neck tho ngl

[grim jay]

vault hated me again aswell

idk what it is that vault has against me

[proud mason]

the result of the sim might not be the best option in the long run

[molten echo]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[novel star]

then use a combination of the sim and your brain

[chilly mist]

I might be wrong due to ur print but think those wrists are bis?

[novel star]

i believe in you

[proud mason]

i'm just looking for an opinion as to not make an obvious mistake, i'm alreay using my brain my dude

[dapper dove]

dumb question i just randomly checked. Why every bis list says to play with 5 piece tier set? its doesnt sim pertty much better

[royal lantern]

cus it doesnt matter

[chilly mist]

you should consider the wrists if its the crit mastery one, and just craft those last

[proud mason]

i think crafted 636 wrists are bis but i guess it's only because craft doesn't go to 639 and it has low stat allocation, i'm never going to mythic raid anyways it's gonna be a while before i get full 639 slots i'm just gonna craft somewhere else

[chilly mist]

belt is also fine and it would allow you to craft on other slots

if u went wrist in that vault

[quartz osprey]

Is there a cleave talent build for raid?

[subtle lava]

arent you supposed to craft wrist AND belt?

[novel star]

change internal bleeding to caustic spatter

[novel star]

that’s it

yeah

what whispyr said

[quartz osprey]

ah ty 🙂

[novel star]

this place is putting me to eep i’m such a little eeper dude gn

[royal lantern]

2 arrows pointing at it even

[balmy condor]

when you need to cleave adds you just swap from assa to outlaw internal bleeding to caustic

[chilly mist]

lol

[chilly canopy]

did something got changed for us? i simmed almost 1.1 m dps in st 2 days ago, now im at 1.08 without chanigng anything

[wooden perch]

Is the sikran neck bis in m+?

[royal lantern]

everytime someone says bis, a puppy and kitten dies

[chilly mist]

dont think we want that much haste in m+

[earnest remnant]

bis bis bis bis bis bis bis bis bis bis

[viral spire]

It’s bis everywhere

[chilly canopy]

seems like its the mad queen shit which wont use my skardyns at all, and use mad queens during burst hahaha

[viral spire]

Helps your healer

Also free vers

sex good, help prostate, relieve stress - go

[grim jay]

then you have the trinkets in the wrong order

[royal lantern]

i include raccons to that list aswell now

[chilly canopy]

nope https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gzYof65XLZk89UTFZsbxGW

[raw jackal]

Hey guys - Im new here and will begin with a classic question I guess: What would you pick?
I'm currently at 2 Set pieces (2 Catalyst avaiable, plus the heroic tier set token for every piece)
Head 619 Set, Chest 606 Set (Vet) and got a hero chest available for catalyst for example. (Legs, Shoulder and Hands are Champion too for potential catalyst)
Ive got the Sacbrood at Champion already 606 right now.

[vale lantern]

missing 99 parse on hc brood and hc silken im sad

yall gotta stop being good on those

[viral spire]

The best option would be to pick the cape as it offers good survivability and good stats, you’d also get a higher ilv so you wouldn’t need to use crests

[lofty dawn]

brood hc?

[vale lantern]

yah

[raw jackal]

Ive got the cape in NHC already, if that matters

[viral spire]

Already at 2p with 2 cata charges which means you are at 4p already

Sac could be farmed from keys at the same ilv so its not relevant

[chilly mist]

Think the least "wasted" option would be cloak, sac is farmable like said above

[viral spire]

Normal would be 619 no? 626 is still better

If you really are feeling that all of it is a waste just get socket and sit on it until you get a myth track head/belt/wrist and socket it

[raw jackal]

but with that being sad, I should try to use the cata only at hero items first? So that I will try to farm them asap and not wasting them on champion I guess?

[royal lantern]

not me at 28GB runs and 18arakara runs with no trinkets

surely gb #30 will be it

[lofty dawn]

i believe

[obsidian wadi]

how rare is seal of the poisoned pact, wondering if i sohuld pick that or 4 set

[subtle tundra]

inshallah

[lofty dawn]

fuck off

[vale lantern]

i personally would take seal

[wind totem]

dagger and full send upgrades, right?

[lofty dawn]

i got either spyglass or the cloak

[subtle tundra]

true. i literally said i would get it

[lofty dawn]

man

[viral spire]

Yes absolutely

[lofty dawn]

lucky bastard

[chilly mist]

uff

[grand trail]

Not enough runs

[viral spire]

After I saw skardyn

If you don’t pick skardyn

[lofty dawn]

but man, what should i choose. Dead-eye or the rashan cloak? i will never get the rashan cloak cuz i play rogue and never die

[analog inlet]

if u got 4p, i suppose so

[viral spire]

I mean my parents would disown me if I didn’t

[grim jay]

pick skardyn and make a video where you disenchant it

to post it here

[raw jackal]

KEKW

[viral spire]

Rashan

[grim jay]

id probably take spyglass

[subtle tundra]

guys

[lofty dawn]

why

[subtle tundra]

see what i mean

[viral spire]

Well my parents wouldn’t only disown me they would kill me in a secluded dark alley if I did that lmao

[hybrid tree]

can i have 2x ascendence on my weapons, or do i need 1x + 1x nerubian?

[subtle tundra]

i had it in my vault wince yesterday

[viral spire]

Tbf take cloak

[grim jay]

crafting 2 weapons is bad

so no reason to do it

[viral spire]

Spyglass is not great on single

[raw jackal]

so in myy case its the cloak to be picked since it also is high contested? or at least socket

[lofty dawn]

im kinda debating, since i never die in raids

spy glass was 12k dps inc

when 6/6

[viral spire]

You can also get princess trinket

From myth raid when you kill it

[grim jay]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fg2A5SiFhkvKHUWj6edCu6

cap

[dense cloud]

who tf asked for these?

[viral spire]

Its probably better all around - considering sac loses value on multi and spyglass loses value on st

[viral spire]

Nah I mean compared to other trinkets its meh

[winter cobalt]

!craft

[grim jay]

mandate pretty good

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[grim jay]

its literally a comparison sim

[viral spire]

Also depending on your crit

Im on phone

[viral spire]

Either mandate or chest

[zinc frost]

Spyglass ain’t meh

[grim jay]

spyglass is pretty much the same as ara kara, you might just get different results for the rest of your gear

[viral spire]

There are better things that you can equip on the slot if you already have decent crit I meant

[dense cloud]

yeah im simming rn, lets see if its chest or mandate

[viral spire]

Mandate is fkin fat dam

[dense cloud]

but only on st no?

[viral spire]

Chest universally good if you cata i guess

[viral spire]

Ye but still fat fkin dam

Think manic

[balmy condor]

Damn, Gratz on mandate

[grim jay]

if you can snipe things for the resets its pretty big aswell

[dense cloud]

aight so mandate is our st trink and grim batol trink is our ''aoe''

im assuming

[dense cloud]

thanks babe

[balmy condor]

No

You play both

[viral spire]

Also mandate is very contested

[dense cloud]

ik I play both

but interms of dumbing it down

like how manic was and boon

[balmy condor]

Skardyns is your ashes, mandate is your manic

[dense cloud]

idek why tf im asking all this, im looking at bloodmallet

[drifting cedar]

are we going bleed build this week

[balmy condor]

No

Bleed build can’t soak orbs any better than any other build

[drifting cedar]

😄

[balmy condor]

It’s not like fort/tyran matters anymore

[grim jay]

maybe they should rename skardyns to mad king's mandate, because its surely driving you mad, king

[balmy condor]

Since you have both

[balmy condor]

Dude trashmitter has fucked over the apl so many times

I hate that shit

It’s spilling over

[grim jay]

I'd imagine

I kinda want that trinket

but I also hate minigame trinkets

dunno why they cant just do basic trinkets

everyone would have a better time

[grand trail]

You will eventually get used to transmitter

I did so many keys with it that I don't feel any anger towards it

[winter cobalt]

Hey people, hopefuly not a silly question regarding crafting+emb+ench. I know the recomendations for M+ being 2xDawnthread on armor + Authority of Radiant Power for weapons. Question - why are top picks on sites like Archon/Murlok.io different from recomendations (Auth of the Depths + Ascendance)? Is it because those players are focusing on riding atm? I don't plan to raid - should I disregard their choices and just go with the recomendations from here/wowhead?

[chilly mist]

Archon takes its numbers based off of what is used

[winter cobalt]

or is it because the spec is lacking some ST on those higher keys and they're trying to make up for it on M+?

[chilly mist]

item availability and raid/m+ pref plays a big part in whats show there

its not a great tool early season

[winter cobalt]

that's what I was thinking. wanted to do a reality check. thanks

[chilly mist]

you'll be very fine following wowhead and recommendations here

[weary juniper]

@balmy condor but, bis is not GB mastery trinket + boralus crit trinket?

[iron carbon]

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[winter cobalt]

that's what I wanted to confirm. thanks for informative answer (:

[chilly mist]

In the end it does not matter too much either, I'm running a very raid oriented setup and can still do 11/12 keys just fine

[weary juniper]

100% yesterday i did a N raid using the talents from wowH. And the rotation etc. And i perform from 76 to 87% parse without tier bonus, before that i was on 50% only

For my 1st week playing rogue its kinda good, gona keep learning here 😁

[hidden herald]

Seems pretty trivial. Not something worth focusing on unless your already a top performing rogue IMO

So no fortified this week? Did they remove it from the game or something

[royal lantern]

gj mate

[dense cloud]

im so fucking confused. mandate isn't simming better than the trinks I have. and one of them is 603

lmao

how is that possible

I have this in 603 and sikran's endless in 613

and mandate in 619 doesnt sim better

[weary juniper]

Probably bcs the sim is on 1 target (raid)

And that trinket i think that is only worth in M+

[dense cloud]

dslice 1 target

[weary juniper]

So u get the reduced cd

(talking with low knowledge ofc)

Maybe for somthing like kill pulls etc, sim better

Or bosses with adds

Whre u can kill and get 1min less cd

[balmy condor]

Are you simming with skardyns/transmitter alongside mandate

[dense cloud]

idek what that means. but no I do not have skardyns or transmitter

[balmy condor]

Link me the sim

[hardy crypt]

is there any information on roughly how much %dps increase our 2set and 4sets are? i didn't get any drops from raid despite killing like 25 bosses overall and i'm not sure whether i should spend my catalysts/2k score reward or greed until next week so i don't get a duplicate piece of set

[balmy condor]

1.3% per

[hardy crypt]

so both 2-set and 4-set are roughly the same increase?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[dense cloud]

1sec

[hardy crypt]

thanks whispyr u the best

[balmy condor]

The same increase which is like

Nothing

[hardy crypt]

ah

[balmy condor]

Our tier is giga shit

[dense cloud]

u want the finished sim?

[hardy crypt]

yikes

[weary juniper]

Really?

Bcs of the natural stats?

Bcs bonus is not that bad no?

[balmy condor]

It’s the first time healer tier is taking prio over me on my token

[balmy condor]

The bonus is fucking atrocious lmao

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[dense cloud]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/proupnhAMUXiA6aGE7EvAp

but this one is on dslice 1 target

[balmy condor]

That’s fine dslice overrides target and time

[dense cloud]

okay

somehow ovinax trinket over simmed that shit too

idk anymore xd

[balmy condor]

Ovinax is okay

[weary juniper]

And, what do u think about the rework that is comming?

[balmy condor]

I think mandate is just ugly atm until my fix gets pushed

[weary juniper]

Gona boost or nerf?

[cerulean walrus]

Can't wait to chug tea against my will

[balmy condor]

What

[dense cloud]

so fuck it and take mandate anyway? or what

[cerulean walrus]

Boutta be waterboarded by tea

[balmy condor]

They’re reworking talents

[royal lantern]

rework?

[balmy condor]

Who knows if it’s a buff or a nerf

They’ll tune it

[subtle lava]

How much can %dps is 2p and 2p -> 4p, or where can I look that up?

[balmy condor]

Hold on a minute

[royal lantern]

1,3% both

[dense cloud]

holding

[subtle lava]

Ew

[royal lantern]

he said a minute, still 40sec to go

[small jacinth]

Our tier set bonuses as Rogues are shit? Is it not worth to push for it then or whatchu thinkin?

[royal lantern]

literally look up mate

lol

[weary juniper]

Hmm

[small jacinth]

Am at train

[weary juniper]

But, if tier is shit

[royal lantern]

dont even need to scroll

😄

[weary juniper]

Why is still BIS?

[subtle lava]

1.3% is 1.3%

[weary juniper]

Well yes xD

[subtle lava]

1.3 > 0 afaik

[grim jay]

bcs its effect vs no effect?

idk, strange question

[balmy condor]

Y’all need to think a little

Before smashing keyboard

[hearty reef]

hmm 4p strong in aoe

who would have guessed

[small jacinth]

True true, what I meant was if the tier bonus is quite shit then maybe it’s better to wait a bit on pushing for tier pieces? At least until you get as high ilvl as possible, and instead go for other slots meanwhile.

Unless a tier piece randomly drops ofc

[royal lantern]

i mean, we have 2 catalyst charges + the omni token from ksm/curve

thats 3 free pieces

[balmy condor]

Not really tbh

[digital field]

any advice for these

[dense cloud]

Also, I see these 2 being played in m+ instead of lightweight shiv and master assa. whats the thought process behind that shit?

[hearty reef]

idk but CT dmg skyrocketed

[balmy condor]

Amp poison = envenom = good

[small jacinth]

Ara-Kara Sacbrood unless you can get set bonus? Idk

[balmy condor]

It’s not really anything crazy

[vocal minnow]

how can people do 8 10s and have no idea how to pick items.

[balmy condor]

We’ve run amp poison for forever

[weak saffron]

Game is hard instructions unclear

[dense cloud]

and we play echo on left side of talent build?

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[midnight atlas]

what type of dmg is radiant ? is it like chaos or it's like holy dmg?

[vocal minnow]

i just assume he bought 8 boosts

[balmy condor]

I wanna say holy

[digital field]

i can sell u boost if u want

[balmy condor]

Okay sim is accurate for you you’re gud

Take whatever you’d like

Mandate is good single target

[keen furnace]

does anyone know if there is a big difference between dark moon sigil being on main hand vs off hand, i got a myth track wep today and wanted to craft another dagger also

[balmy condor]

0

It’s a buff on your character

Why would dagger matter

[keen furnace]

thought maybe it proc'd from something not entirely sure

[midnight atlas]

i was hoping it will dip into nature bonuses we got, but its fucking paladin enchant

[vale lantern]

radiant used to be holyfire so prob holy and fire

[dense cloud]

aight. might take ovinax then that simmed better overall no matter how I simmed

[balmy condor]

It procs from being in combat for 8 seconds

[balmy condor]

Reasonable

[keen furnace]

ok thanks

[balmy condor]

I mean it wouldn’t interact if it was nature damage so that’s not a concern

It’s an item effect

[vocal minnow]

got a referal code for being a premium customer?

[dense cloud]

or maybe mandate, idk. higher ilvl. fuck me.. now I cant decide

[royal lantern]

holy+fire

[vale lantern]

anyone else sitting at a crafting bench trying to make money for consumables this xpac has been hurting my pockets

[midnight atlas]

so you're telling me that nature dmg for this one is not bumped by our spec, only the last part of the tooltip where they say "dealing nature dmg bla bla" ?

[balmy condor]

Correct

[midnight atlas]

interesting

still good ring glad i got it

[vale lantern]

dont tell my guild this its the one thing i have going for me getting this over our 619 ilvl dh who for some reason keeps getting gear over the 613 ilvl players

[balmy condor]

And the nature damage granting and additional dose is on an internal cooldown so it’s not any better for us compared to any other spec with nature damage

[ocean ferry]

should I rather maintain the envenom buff or spread ruptures?^^

[balmy condor]

Both

[ocean ferry]

And if I have to decide in aoe?^^

[balmy condor]

Both

[orchid wind]

boys if i already crafted a dagger, can i just craft a waist on this week and go double crit instead of ascension ?

[ocean ferry]

What do I do first

[balmy condor]

I mean it’s just too vague of a question

You need to rupture for energy and caustic and scent stacks

You need to envenom to make use of the energy and the caustic and the scent stacks

[balmy condor]

Yes

[pearl ingot]

!crafting

[midnight atlas]

m+ is too dynamic to give a "one answer fits all" you got to learn to know what you have to do

[pearl ingot]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[orchid wind]

whispyr the savior

[balmy condor]

Gz on legs I guess

[midnight atlas]

get the overclocked launcher for the mount pog

[icy osprey]

i think i made an oopsie

[strange python]

@balmy condor let me know the strat to find guild

[orchid wind]

i was thinking to do the raid first ? maybe i got a leg from it

[icy osprey]

I got myth track chest in vault, catalysted it, but i think it wouldve been better to not catalyst as chest has kinda shit stats

[royal lantern]

not the trinket? would have been my first gues there tbh

[balmy condor]

Stomp dps then apply to a guild that’s 10-20% higher world rank than yours, rinse repeat

[balmy condor]

Yeah but catalyzing first boss legs would be 30 gilded crests I think

Cause those legs in your vault are 3/6?

[orchid wind]

i got this head on my bag tho

can just take the leg, and catalyst this one

[balmy condor]

Yeah

Do that then

[orchid wind]

[gusty marten]

the wowhead guide ist not mentionig rings/neck in the crafting part, are these a bad choice?

[balmy condor]

They’re fine

There’s a very rare neck and a very rare ring

That are both good

So you really only have 1 ring slot to craft into

[lusty mountain]

guys, harvester or toxin (nw) trinket?

[balmy condor]

And there’s just an endless supply of good rings everywhere

[balmy condor]

Is there a third option

[lusty mountain]

no, im fucked

[gusty marten]

i see, ty

[weak saffron]

Lmao

[balmy condor]

Toaster bath

[lusty mountain]

[midnight atlas]

ah man the cringe "fix" for the wax is cringe

it felt cool

[viral spire]

Do we even have any confirmation

[spring moat]

Transmitter was best sim option for my vault. Hate trying to see the orb in raid sometimes

[viral spire]

That wax fix is intended

[balmy condor]

worst trinket I’ve seen

[royal lantern]

worst trinket you have seen so far

[spring moat]

I’ve been messing with it all night. Works good as prepull. To stealth. I lost like one second of agility

[balmy condor]

Can’t wait for xal’atath toe ring trinket in 13.2

[spring moat]

Don’t give them ideas

[spring moat]

Dear god no

[viral spire]

Imagine they make it so fkşn broken

That its bis for everyone and their mothers

[crisp pine]

I got a myth track Sacbrood
Had to unequip my serum for that smh

[viral spire]

Serum kinda sucks tho with channel time no?

[spring moat]

I don’t get how I can parse deep blue and purple and get up to council parse grey. Lul.

[errant hawk]

The rework talents are today?

[crisp pine]

But have you seen the FoK Animation while you're in spider form?

[royal lantern]

"animation"

[viral spire]

Fair point

[royal lantern]

[crisp pine]

Imagine being a mob, getting hit by that thing
Instantly pierces your skull

just a billion daggers concentrated on one spot

[vale lantern]

rework taleents?

[crisp pine]

I swear it's a dps increase

[spring moat]

Rework?

[royal lantern]

they mean the couple talent changes

wow players call everything rework lol

[balmy condor]

I mean er and ttk are reworked talents

[haughty verge]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[balmy condor]

They are functionally entirely different from what they are now

[spring moat]

You mean nerfing assas bc we’re over an evoker? 😂

[balmy condor]

What

What does rework talent have to do with nerf

[strange python]

:c

[royal lantern]

???

[balmy condor]

???

[royal lantern]

guys, what are you talking about

[spring moat]

Joke with guild atm

Anytime a particular class is on top they move to nerf them to the ground to make mage superior

Then all classes are below mage. Then mages cry and are superior again

[dense cloud]

did we not get a catalyst this week?

[royal lantern]

thats no joke, thats a proven fact

[balmy condor]

We did

#2

[dense cloud]

is it automatic or quest?

[weak saffron]

Auto

[royal lantern]

automatic

[balmy condor]

Should be auto

[dense cloud]

I dont have it

[weak saffron]

Rekt

[dense cloud]

nvm, had to reload

[spring moat]

I had 2. Used one a week ago

Got heroic chest last night off the slug

[frank ermine]

what embelishments are sins running in raid

[sturdy stirrup]

fuck i used my spark for intellect weapon

[spring moat]

FYI don’t hug those spiders too quick

[sturdy stirrup]

can i open ticket for it

😭

[weak saffron]

Lmao

Put him in a coffin ⚰️

[balmy condor]

You can but they’re just gonna laugh at you

[sturdy stirrup]

first i opened the craft tab second dagger was agi one

[balmy condor]

It asks you are you sure no less than like 4 times and then the crafter has to confirm like 3 more times

[royal lantern]

ascenion+patch or double dawnthread

[balmy condor]

Skill issue

[agile willow]

I can't find the delves continuation on YouTube whispyr! Was looking forward to watching you kill ?? Zekvir. He was one shotting me, so I wanted to watch how you do it lol

[royal lantern]

yeha, heres the thing

you cant

[balmy condor]

Outlaw

:3

[royal lantern]

the boss auto hits whisp for 70% max hp aswell

[balmy condor]

Nah

?? Is free

??? Is death

[agile willow]

The permanent tricks like you were doing? I was worried about the permanent fear zekvir does

[balmy condor]

Unless your brann is like level 50 billion

It’s doomed

[knotty jewel]

anyone knows somehting new about bubbling wax bug?

[balmy condor]

Pins

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[knotty jewel]

ty

[royal lantern]

you either abused OP brann soloing the Fight for you

or you wait until they start fixing shit

[agile willow]

Are you gonna stream outlaw ?? Zekvir? Idk how to get the job done

[balmy condor]

Maybe

I can try tomorrow

620 ilvl now

Maybe I just ramp the mfer

(I do not)

[royal lantern]

tf im 613

[balmy condor]

Bad

[royal lantern]

where do you get all that loot

[fallen arch]

Ninja

[balmy condor]

M+ and recreating 8/8h 3/8m

[fallen arch]

Dont you?

[royal lantern]

or is it just my legendary bad loot rng once again

[strange python]

whats ur io

[agile willow]

Looking forward to it!

[fallen arch]

We supposed to be rogues

[fallen arch]

999999

[hexed frost]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-peter-griffin-roadhouse-kick-gif-8559648054767865092

HERO YOUR TIMING COULDN'T BE B...

[balmy condor]

Idk like 2300

[fallen arch]

Cause Whisp is the kind of person that cares about io

[royal lantern]

what

[balmy condor]

True

[royal lantern]

not many people care less about it then whisp

[fallen arch]

Exactly

[strange python]

😮

[balmy condor]

I’m more pissed that I rank 1’d on heroic rashanan with spatter talented

How tf does that work

It’s literally a 0dps talent on logs

[royal lantern]

bro you outgear most people allready lol

[balmy condor]

I mean not really

[royal lantern]

not many are 620

[balmy condor]

Someone beat me thank god

But I am the lowest on this list

[fallen arch]

Gamer

[balmy condor]

wtf is mandate though

[fallen arch]

Trying to convince ppl you aren’t

[balmy condor]

Why is his trinket almost beating kingsbane

[fallen arch]

Gigachad

Trinket good kb bad, simple

[balmy condor]

I guess so

He didn’t even crit the second cast

I think if he crit the second cast it could’ve actually beat kingsbane

[cerulean walrus]

Mandate is just fucking beacon 2

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[crude sequoia]

skardyns is so hot

[balmy condor]

I’m just glad my caustic isn’t rank 1 that’s actually embarrassing

[cerulean walrus]

Still rocking a veteran Skardyn’s

[balmy condor]

Same

[crude sequoia]

pulled a 610 hero skardyns today, grim batol never seeing me again

thats a lie

[glacial stump]

Is it worth taking tiny toxic blade over scoundrel ?

[cerulean walrus]

Sim it

[balmy condor]

Fere quicker than me

[cerulean walrus]

Washed up

It’s those old fingers

[royal lantern]

28runs, same

[cerulean walrus]

Truly the grimmest of batols

[hushed blade]

guys do we use again same build as last week for +10s?

[balmy condor]

It’s the same affixes

Don’t see why not

[rotund oak]

its skandryns and ur s@xy hair

rank 1 parsing

[balmy condor]

The hair is +10 parse

[rotund oak]

yup

[hushed blade]

and below 10? would u switch to ST or keep same build as for 10s. Lets say in key 9

[south lava]

what should i take guys

my vault is pretty shit

[rotund oak]

dont sim,robot lies

[south lava]

kiss of death trinket good ? or nah

[hushed blade]

how come

[rotund oak]

wpns=>trinkets=>tierset/ilvl

[rotund oak]

its a joke

[hushed blade]

lol

[rotund oak]

😅

[fallen arch]

Impossible to advise without seeing ur current gear

[south lava]

my current gear

[fallen arch]

Chest into catalyst

[rotund oak]

cant see too old

[fallen arch]

Or maybe toxin

[rotund oak]

need glasses

and no wait

dont do anything yet

[fallen arch]

Clear raid first

Then pick

[rotund oak]

shhh

[south lava]

hear is better version

here*

[rotund oak]

ild say 4p tierset would be the best go

so u take gloves or legs

and catalyze another piece

to get 4p

[south lava]

i have one KSM token

[fallen arch]

Not catalyze the chest? Its hero track

[rotund oak]

ksm token changes things

[south lava]

chest in the vault is mythic track

[rotund oak]

hold on

[fallen ginkgo]

are we considering mandate now? looks kinda good ngl

[balmy condor]

It’s one of the best trinkets available

So yeah I guess

[rotund oak]

did u do heroic raid this week?

[south lava]

not yet

[rotund oak]

assuming u will clear at least 6-7 bosses

ild wait in case i loot a tier set

get 4p with token and catalyze the myth track chest

but idk about the rest

u need to sim urself

[south lava]

okie

thanks for the advice

[rotund oak]

u are welcome friend

and dont be hasty ever

just a heads up 🙂

and have a nice day

[glacial crypt]

Alt rogues got transmitter and mad queen's, main got myth track shoulders or socket 😭

[rotund oak]

u are getting punished for not embrassing the sin discord colour

its karmic

[fallen arch]

Wait what does ksm token give?

[rotund oak]

a tier piece

[fallen arch]

Ilvl?

[royal lantern]

heroic

[rotund oak]

not sure,think its relative to ur ilvl

[fallen arch]

Ye but hero track?

[south lava]

hand or leg which would be better for tier set? sapzi

[fallen arch]

Didnt know, thats kinda big

[tawny geyser]

What's with the dungeon drops?
I just did 8, maybe even 10 dungeons in a row, not a single loot drop, personal I mean.
How is this possible?

[rotund oak]

there isnt heroic track friend

its hero track

if thats what u mean

[fallen arch]

Yes

I mean, hero kinda is an abbrevation for heroic in that regard isnt it

[rotund oak]

i mean yeah maybe it resembles the heroic feature of a hero

[fallen arch]

Bad luck

[rotund oak]

i guess

thing is heroic gear and hero track is easy to access rn,outside trinkets that is

u literally do +7 keys and loot stuff,its hero track

[lavish isle]

hi, are there slots which we shouldnt catalyst ?

[tawny geyser]

I'd say chest, no?

[cinder wing]

can i macro kingsbane and thistle tea?

[fallen arch]

Probably better not

We tea for energy, not particularly for the mastery buff

[cinder wing]

right ok

[lavish isle]

so its good option for catalyst ? ) first item )

[cinder wing]

just saw it in the opener and thought i could prress one less button lmao

[grand cedar]

Is there a way to see or track what my overall dps, as an assassination/Deathstalker, should be at on m+?

For example, if I've done a Siege of Boralus m+ 6. Is there a way to compare what other rogues at the same key level manage to output in overall dmg?

dps*

[indigo mulch]

I'm starting to hate transmitter more and more 😦

Having to use cloak in places i don't want to use cloak just to get the damn buff lol

[hushed blade]

guys waht build u use in key 9 ST or M+?

[indigo mulch]

Hybrid?

[spice surge]

It always spawns in the same spot

1:30 o'clock, Northeast to how youre facing

[errant hawk]

When we need to take sanguines blades in Raid pls?
I dont know why ppl dont take it everytime

[subtle tundra]

holy moly

i am not in the army to know those callouts

[spice surge]

Front right?

Idk

[subtle tundra]

thank god i am a skardyn enjoyer FOREVER

[native fossil]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[kind forge]

you need to be in the army to read clocks ?

[night gust]

or know where northeast is

lul

[subtle tundra]

yes

[kind forge]

aight

[night gust]

just get compass weakaura to help with it

[kind forge]

[ashen rover]

[rotund oak]

u read the clock as a map Projection North is up South is down West is Left East is right.1:30 is NNE(north north east)which resembles the up-right quadrant in the clock/map projection 🙂

[real pike]

is there any reason wrists and belt are recommended to craft over boots? or if my boots are lower ilvl I should go with those?

[cedar hare]

Ez pick

[rotund oak]

gimme ur skadryns and ill let u live

joking ofc,ggs

[cedar hare]

U can get my 606 one?

[rotund oak]

got a hero track today im good ty

[cedar hare]

Gonna make that baby 639 today

[wise gull]

I'm still in GB hell

[cedar hare]

the irony is that i have a Gb 10

[rotund oak]

the only reason im actually jealous 😦

[fallen arch]

Would there be a reason to run improved Ambush over Tight Spender in dungeons?

[kind forge]

nay

[rotund oak]

those 5 ambuses in the entire run would be very impactful than energy economy

[fallen arch]

Ye that’s what I thought

Archin lists it as ‘most popular’

But it makes no sense to run that without blindside

[rotund oak]

it generally makes no sense even with blindside but maybe a sim could prove it wrong

[fallen arch]

I think the pure st build takes it

[rotund oak]

yeah for raid sure

[spring prawn]

im pumper now :>

[novel moss]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[thorny tapir]

is it sensible to trust mad queen's mandate simming 20k + dps?

[viscid spear]

I'm over here casting Kingsbane and then Shiv+Tea before the debuff ends

[subtle lava]

That trinket is not even worth considering, right?

[desert marten]

we dont craft siphoning stiletto, right? droptimizer shows it 1.5% better than regular 636craft

[spring prawn]

;D i had that too, big sad

[real pike]

hey guys, anyone know why wrist and belt are recommended over boots for crafting please?

[royal lantern]

check wowhead assa guide

[subtle lava]

unlucky

[royal lantern]

and by crafted items the text for stilleto

[desert marten]

yeah forget i ever asked XD very nice things said about the stiletto. ty!

[soft niche]

Hey folks, do you know how much of overall 2piece and 4 piece are ?

[unkempt warren]

does my m+ breakdown look fine? feel like im under perfoming in keys

[native fossil]

no

[rotund oak]

it doesnt look fine no

[brisk plank]

caustic should be higher iirc

[soft niche]

Should be caustic first

[rotund oak]

spatter should be top,envenom and garrote in close proximity 2nd

[unkempt warren]

so what am i doing wrong? just not spreading it enough?

[native fossil]

should look something like this

its a mist so not too much aoe

[soft niche]

Which key? Is a low key ?

[weak saffron]

You ain’t spamming ct are you ?

[unkempt warren]

6 arakara

[rich parrot]

crimson tempest should be in 2nd right ?

[unkempt warren]

no i put it up once

[rotund oak]

wrong

[weak saffron]

I have no how you achieved this

[old cliff]

not hitting the spatter target enough

[raven panther]

When I sim for socket, it tells me to put the same socket at every slot. Should I maybe, have at least one of each color to get full value of the prismatic socket ?

[native fossil]

ok

its a mist

[rich parrot]

just asking

kekw

dont be mad

[rotund oak]

dargas details looks normal,maybe a bit garroting in general but ye

looks fine

[old cliff]

There's an option to sim 4 gems for the prismatic

[native fossil]

ye im the cc machine

[rotund oak]

man

[fiery forge]

what embelishments to run if I do both M+ and raid like 50/50

[safe mantle]

i gota a question for my vault should i take the Tier piece to get 4 set bonus this week or the trinket

[raven panther]

this ? what should I put ?

[subtle tundra]

aug overall, ignored

[rotund oak]

trinket

and dont ask why

[unkempt warren]

lol

[old cliff]

Further down, tick always use prismatic gem and it has an option below it

[ashen rover]

free from dungeon farming

[safe mantle]

i guess when you say trinket the answer is always "it deals more damage"

[rotund oak]

the answer is that its a bis trinket

[unkempt warren]

okay fair ill try another

[rotund oak]

for the entire tier

[zenith cradle]

his is not

[safe mantle]

these are my current trinkets

[zenith cradle]

his trinket is hero

so

[rotund oak]

and the alternative is a 603 legs

[zenith cradle]

take tier

[rotund oak]

yeah replace the green one with skadryns

[fallen arch]

Less ct more envenom on your spatter target basically

[zenith cradle]

you can literally drop that trinket in Grim Batol so

[subtle tundra]

dont listen

you dont want to

its a prison

[rotund oak]

why bother when u can have it now and be done with it and work urself on ur spyglass

[subtle tundra]

you want to get the trinket

[rotund oak]

like idk some ppl

[subtle tundra]

the dungeon has 10 items in the pool

[rotund oak]

yup

[subtle tundra]

you dont want to farm it

[rotund oak]

u need to pull it out of ur butt pretty much

its like 12.5%

[wooden jasper]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[strange python]

does the lingering shadows thing show in sims for madqueen

[spice surge]

Yes for sub

[rotund oak]

thats a cool question

i dont know

[spice surge]

Assa doesnt increase shadow damage

[strange python]

o yea

[raven panther]

I just can't get it working I get an error

[hushed blade]

did u run ST build?

[south lava]

whatts the thing to add socket in neck

[old cliff]

Do you not have 5 sockets?

[soft niche]

It's our tier bad ? I was unlucky in raid and didn't get a sigle piece last week, but with vault and this week's raid. I got 4 pieces. I feel little to no difference in m+

[raven panther]

no might be the problem

[spice surge]

Yes, tier is weak

[raven panther]

only 3 atm

[old cliff]

That's the problem 🙂

[spice surge]

All set bonuses are weak this tier, but assa's is among the weakest

[agile geode]

sin deserve a minor buff btw

on st

ye i know im crying

[bleak spoke]

how much is it in like idk like 5t

[strange python]

buff rogue

[bleak spoke]

or some general cleave scenario

[strange python]

they should giga buff sub

[agile geode]

is a good spec imho but feels underwhelming rn

[strange python]

before they ruin it in november

[subtle tundra]

assa deserves a fat nerf

on aoe

like 20-30%

[warm mist]

which is more accurate for M+ sim ?
dungeon slice or patchwork 5 targets

[subtle tundra]

dslice

[weary verge]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[olive crater]

Can someone tellme talents and rotation for assa in raid? Ty! 🙃

[subtle tundra]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[tall jay]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[subtle tundra]

check wowhead

[pearl ingot]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[hushed blade]

guys M9+ which build ST or AOE

[subtle tundra]

fym st or aoe

[hushed blade]

exactly what i mean

[subtle tundra]

st???

single target in m+

?

[hushed blade]

yes

check murlok

[subtle tundra]

i will fucking

blow my brains out

[hushed blade]

chillex homie

i just ask the question

[subtle tundra]

play one of the m+ builds

[hushed blade]

sure

was jsut curious cuz some ppl on high keys play with st dunno why

[subtle tundra]

i am not allowed to comment any further

ill get muted

[oak eagle]

LMAO

[bleak spoke]

usually stuff ripped from armory aren't talents played, but rather talents you logged out in

[hushed blade]

Txh Varas

[subtle tundra]

i try my best

[oak eagle]

can bubbling wax be pick pocketed off any kobold? or just the higher hp ones

[marble hemlock]

its not enough

[subtle lava]

guys can i claim my mythic + key before choosing vault reward?

[subtle tundra]

im in on kyveza prog, unkillable boss i will cry

[marble hemlock]

ye idk

this tier is fucking garbage

[wet briar]

think you can talk to the panda

[marble hemlock]

i didnt expect much

[oak eagle]

i believe you can do a key and youll get the key

[marble hemlock]

they managed to underdeliver

[hushed blade]

MYTH?

[subtle tundra]

yes

[marble hemlock]

have you even killed nippletwister yet?

[oak eagle]

can you teach me how to be as good as you

[hushed blade]

i was afraid u will say HC

lol

[subtle tundra]

should die tomorrow

[bleak spoke]

seli did yall kill ovinax

[subtle lava]

which panda lol

[marble hemlock]

fuck no, we made it past the first area

[oak eagle]

right next to the timways portal

[subtle tundra]

team was playing pretty consistantly

[bleak spoke]

okay now do that again like 5 times i guess

[subtle lava]

perfect ty!

[bleak spoke]

man it's kinda troll tbh

[subtle tundra]

with nerfs + ilvl boss should fall over eventually