assassination

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[keen spruce]

!stu

[ripe umbra]

What are you guys using instead of Wax? ironclaw is too expensive for reclear

[runic hinge]

@past bobcat

[spice spire]

Oil

[ripe umbra]

wich one?

[runic hinge]

Mana

[spice spire]

Algari whatever oil

[shy pecan]

[arctic socket]

ironclaws arent but like 1k for rank 3

Nvm

they went up to 2k

tf

[swift dagger]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[spice spire]

Mf pulled out a small loan

[ripe umbra]

3k on my server

null stones are still expensive

[sudden brook]

Just buy the oils or rank 2s

[keen spruce]

Ain’t no way any of this is worth

[arctic socket]

@spice spire

[agile osprey]

I mean even at 1500g a pop the r2's feel expensive

[spice spire]

I’ll send u feet dw

[sudden brook]

Buy the oils then

they are like 100 gold or smthing

[spice spire]

Ye

[arctic socket]

im ashamed to admit it but i Meowed and said "Senpai" for 3m

[agile osprey]

oh that aint bad

[spice spire]

Batman couldn’t beat that outta me dog

[keen spruce]

That sounds like a very low price

[arctic socket]

ayo listen

[keen spruce]

Well low cost*

[arctic socket]

gold's gold

[keen spruce]

To you

[runic hinge]

:3

[uneven plume]

Rate my vault

[keen spruce]

Market value on a meow + senpai combo deal can be over 1.5 mill

[arctic socket]

gratz on your princess trinket

[uneven plume]

princess trinky goo?

[spice spire]

Ye just annoying but fine

[spice spire]

You said it wrong

Congrats on your trinket, princess

Smh

[keen spruce]

Trinket on your princess, congrats

[spice spire]

Nice

[arctic socket]

that sounds kinda

MMM

idk how to say it

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

[fallen moss]

polling on what people crafting 2nd 636??

[spice spire]

Depends on the first

[keen spruce]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[hexed root]

how accurate is raidbots with gems/colors? my sim doesn't seem to care what gems I use

[keen spruce]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[arctic socket]

@keen spruce Princess can i give you my trinket

[runic hinge]

I’m crafting quake a muzzle

[spice spire]

It is

[keen spruce]

That’s cuz it doesn’t really matter

[spice spire]

?

[keen spruce]

But yes it’s accurate

[fiery forge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[hexed root]

saw the guide say to try and get every color combo due to the meta gem but to sim it and doesnt seem to matter ye

[runic hinge]

636 embellished muzzle

[keen spruce]

You’re already my princess and I’ll trinket all over you

[arctic socket]

[spice spire]

Embellish this pal

[runic hinge]

I trinket on my princess til she void reaps me

[arctic socket]

that's gonna cost u

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

You used to tell me this

Damn

[runic hinge]

We’ll get that thing bedazzled right up

[arctic socket]

there's a reason my trinket is called Mad queen's mandate

[spice spire]

Hell yeah

[arctic socket]

kekw

[keen spruce]

You’re my queen

[spice spire]

Wait

Have you ever heard me speak

[long void]

can you not apply bubbling wax anymore?

[arctic socket]

Yes

[keen spruce]

Nah

[uneven plume]

trinket is legit shit

[spice spire]

That’s so much funnier post people hearing me

[arctic socket]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[runic hinge]

His voice is deeper than I expected

[uneven plume]

4k dps increase compared to glove (10k) and ring (10k)

[runic hinge]

But idk what I expected

[keen spruce]

Do you sound like corpse husband

[arctic socket]

post your sim

[spice spire]

Nah it’s not that bad

[uneven plume]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sipbTVC261wCScYZoFSMPF

[keen spruce]

Good*

I think I’ve only heard Whispyr and endwyr

[shadow badger]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[keen spruce]

Zac don’t talk

I do t think stealthi talks

[arctic socket]

is there a reason you're doing dungeon slice

[fallen forge]

huh what did i do

[uneven plume]

yah i do dungeons

[keen spruce]

I was trying to figure out who the mayo enjoyer was. But it turns out u weren’t even hiding

Just hadn’t been around

[fiery forge]

about the LE envenom epidemic bar... when I change the length of the WA does it still show the epidemic window correctly? or does it fck up scling

[spice spire]

Daps says I have an accent man

[slate crown]

It is setting the duration point in WA settings, so it will extend to the correct timepoint

[spice spire]

Top ten betrayals in rh vc

[keen spruce]

Where are you from?

[fallen forge]

oh ye i took a break midway through amirdrassil and now i came back as a pvp andy

[slate crown]

I'm not setting the bar at a number of pixels

[fiery forge]

perfect thanks a lot

[spice spire]

Nashville brother

[fallen forge]

how did the mayo topic even come up without me here lmfao

[dusty crescent]

My slice is 1.6m in 608 gear....hmmm

[spice spire]

But I don’t think I have one? Or if I do it’s very light

[fiery forge]

I had to ask just to be sure 😄

[earnest remnant]

i have

[spice spire]

How

[uneven plume]

i remove buffs

[keen spruce]

Then I definitely have an accent

[earnest remnant]

ive literally been on voice with you dumbass

[earnest remnant]

-.-

[arctic socket]

is there a reason why you dont have a primary stat jewel anywhere

[slim pebble]

Chest is our worst option right?

[dusty crescent]

I use mayo instead of butter to toast the bread

[spice spire]

Dog

[uneven plume]

its on my ring

[spice spire]

Am I lit

[arctic socket]

si

[uneven plume]

that its replacing

[spice spire]

I don’t remember this

Wait

[slim pebble]

Damn the chest spawned with leech

[spice spire]

It was an eh night wasn’t it

Rh*

[earnest remnant]

yep

[arctic socket]

in the sim you posted

[spice spire]

Bro

[arctic socket]

it;'s double mastery haste gems

[uneven plume]

ahh so let me add it

[spice spire]

If you think I’m aware of what’s happening when I’m in rh chat ur lit

[earnest remnant]

alot of people has heard my squaker ass voice as well

[spice spire]

Was it football/mtg/ or just a daps special?

[earnest remnant]

daps special

[spice spire]

I don’t remember any squeakers big dog

[slim pebble]

This is tempting

[fallen forge]

i use butter to toast it and mayo to make it creamy

[shy pecan]

Was it the night with Realz maybe?

[spice spire]

Oh fuck

I forgot that existed lmfaooo

[dusty crescent]

I have fried green tomato grilled cheeses

[young dust]

im never stepping in grim batol again

[runic hinge]

I like that

[arctic socket]

gratz

bro

gratz

[dusty crescent]

Fuck you

[spice spire]

???

[young dust]

such a pain this loot table

[spice spire]

Why hate

[young dust]

11 items in total

i kinda get him, i was hating everyone already

[dusty crescent]

I lost count at 75 gbs

[spice spire]

[young dust]

wish you luck

[shy pecan]

And I definitely remember this

[dusty crescent]

I don't really hate, just healous

[spice spire]

Old man speaking

[drifting cloud]

hope you went outlaw to remove the dagger

[arctic socket]

i would take the 623 gloves, since you're still using norm

[shy pecan]

[arctic socket]

or wait unti lyou raid and see what tier you get

[earnest remnant]

the RH member that has heard me the most is def ryler tho xD

[spice spire]

Bro ryler is a G

[shy pecan]

No shit

[spice spire]

Love when he joins chat

[arctic socket]

if you get hero tier take the ring "shrug" i think

[spice spire]

And randomly starts doing some magic the virgining shit

[shy pecan]

You guys are like LA brothers or something

[spring moat]

hmm. hero transmitter from vault

[cloud basin]

did the change Wax? Keeps telling me target is too high level

[arctic socket]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[drifting cloud]

yeah we boost him 2-3x a week, its hard work

[cinder geode]

do you guys follow some sort of guide when inviting pugs ? i keep inviting really ass ones, wondering what i should look for to invite better pugs in m+

[earnest remnant]

true true

[spice spire]

It’s a dice roll

[cinder geode]

whats the best indicator in your exp

[uneven plume]

titles

[spice spire]

Past seasons

[drifting cloud]

in mid lvl keys youre gambling either way

[spice spire]

If he’s asking for pug viability he’s not doing title range stuff

[dusty crescent]

I hot in by linking aotc

[neat pier]

do the ring effects from seal of poison pact apply in sims

[spice spire]

That’s not flame

[uneven plume]

you can pug to title

[spice spire]

I don’t do title shit

[balmy sage]

hands or shoulders for tier? e.e

[shy creek]

!tier

[runic hinge]

I invite the first 4 people who apply and just believe in myself to carry the group

[uneven plume]

@arctic socket https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gDpGfd3ikb9t2y9tx5gizT

[shy creek]

is there a command for checking any notes about tier pieces

[spice spire]

What notes

Nothing changes

[shy pecan]

Imagine pugging and not running with the homies…

[runic hinge]

I actually have only pugged 1 key

But like I’ve said I’m online at 2 am and no one else is

[shy creek]

Well like, is tier worth going after over trinkets, somethign like that

[spice spire]

You hate me so I never get to

[shy creek]

I have mad queen's mandate but idk if thats worth over 4 set

[spice spire]

Check third pin 🙂

[shy creek]

Thank you!

[spice spire]

Our four set is a grand total of 2.4%

It’s not great

[shy pecan]

Thats like 11pm for me on a weeknight…

[shy creek]

Okay yeah I was wondering if there was an exact numebr, the pin didnt say

Okay trinket it is

[flint parrot]

Why does Concoction trinket sim better than most the A tiered trinkets? Does it just perform better in sims?

[shy pecan]

Wdym. I hate @ember mural for being a sounders fan and outlaw player but I still invite him

[spice spire]

[runic hinge]

Yeah. My work schedule is wack

[spice spire]

You ultra hate me

[shy pecan]

[runic hinge]

Damn. Doz is playing OL

[spice spire]

Yeah he’s an outlaw OTP

Wdym

(He played sub in sl)

[runic hinge]

He’s a beige name in ot. He doesn’t even play the game

[spice spire]

Bro

I raid with himwdym

[haughty lantern]

they haven't fixed the wax yet 😦

[runic hinge]

I’m stereotyping

[novel horizon]

so i did the quest to kill the queen on my main but im not seing it on my alts, it should be available as long as if done the campaign right?

[spice spire]

Damn

[slim pebble]

Our tier being so ass makes this siege ring really tempting

[arctic socket]

looks like a ring angle

[keen spruce]

I used to live next door to timbers stadium

[arctic socket]

could be wrong tho

get other people's input

[keen spruce]

They wouldn’t let me drive into my f-ing garage during games

[shy pecan]

[keen spruce]

And I owned the parking spot it wasn’t renting. I’d just park in front of the barricade and argue with them until the crowd cleared

[median igloo]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[keen spruce]

Cuz like… where tf else am I gonna go

[sudden brook]

What is happening on sikran

[keen spruce]

[sudden brook]

It's making me angry

[shy pecan]

My friend lives in the apartment complex next to the stadium and has a view of the screen from her balcony. However when Foo fighters were playing there, she coulda had a free concert… if she didn’t sign up for work that night.

RIP in pepperinos

[earnest remnant]

welcome to assa

[keen spruce]

I’m trying to think which building could see the screen

[sudden brook]

Yeah but like why

[earnest remnant]

where you have 50 combos you can play

[shy pecan]

And RIP in pepperinos

[sudden brook]

whats even the difference

[keen spruce]

I do t think the civic could that faced the MAC

[earnest remnant]

some play without imp garrote

[keen spruce]

[earnest remnant]

some play with VV

some dont

[keen spruce]

I’m in vantuckey now anyways who cares

[sudden brook]

Yeah but why

whats the dps difference

[spice spire]

Depends on profile

[earnest remnant]

gear dependent

[spice spire]

Max diff is like 1% iirc

[earnest remnant]

for me no imp garrote sims more

[balmy condor]

for me imp gar is 0.2% better

so I don't play it

[spice spire]

For me imp garrote sims like 0.3% better

Yeah

[shy pecan]

Yeah, can’t remember the name. But she would send me pics and video. Kinda neat

[sudden brook]

Yeah but what about shrouded vs twist vs dashing vs venoms

I dont understand

[earnest remnant]

this is what i played iirc

[spice spire]

Okay twist is high key wild

[sudden brook]

Rank 3 on sikran has twist the knife

[spice spire]

[spice spire]

Bro had the sauce

( there’s no sauce)

[sudden brook]

I'm getting angy

Theres too many builds

can u guys figure this out already

[median igloo]

lol

[earnest remnant]

well we have

[sudden brook]

How am I suppose to setup a talent sim

[earnest remnant]

and thats the answer

you can do so many different combos

[nova kelp]

there's the whole ttb vs every other fucking talent dealio going on

[spice spire]

[sudden brook]

U dont CT on ST right

And if u dont play garrote talents, vanish is worthless right

[nova kelp]

no

[earnest remnant]

until they refix the mark, yeah kinda its just a vanish into ambush

[spice spire]

And no CT ST

If you don’t play 2/2 VV, you also fok on ctw procs

[nova kelp]

the mark thing is so annoying

[ember mural]

wtf

[spice surge]

Never twist, that guy is just trolling. Shrouded is bad if you dont have imp garrote so you pick dashing instead

[shy pecan]

[nova kelp]

soon twist though

lol

[dark oxide]

can someone explain to me why the top 2 fatebound assassination players are going vert > master > crit > haste?

[past bobcat]

They are prob sub rogue players XD

[nova kelp]

yeah, gearing sub and switching to sin

[slate crown]

Also because Assa doesn't really care about its stats

So gear for sub, and it's fine for assa

!stats

[nova kelp]

also vers isn't BAD by any means, it's just not "optimal"

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[swift dagger]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[dark oxide]

interesting

[median flicker]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[nova kelp]

people put too much value on stat > stat > stat > stat comments
it never changes

[agile inlet]

on a scale of 1 to pain, is this pain? all my options have Vers on em. Or could take a trinket that I'll probably replace pretty quickly

I'm strictly a M+ andy

[nova kelp]

vers isn't bad

especially in m+

[spice surge]

See the message right above yours

[agile inlet]

just leaning towards a socket for longterm is all since I'll prob replace any of those pieces and none can be catalyzed

[strange python]

MA is good again? i guess just last 3 seconds as usual?

[static glacier]

trink is good

shame its not myth track

[keen spruce]

Taking a socket this early and skipping upgrades is kinda crazy

[scarlet wyvern]

do i actually use my grim batol trinket together with death mark? Like always?

or situational too?

[keen spruce]

You’ll end up with plenty of extra sockets later in the season too.

[static glacier]

it's an always kinda deal

[agile inlet]

was just seeing that its very easy to replace thats all 😄

[vocal cradle]

did they change wax?

[spice surge]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[nova kelp]

just remember these are always based on "particular gear sets" etc etc
don't consider all estimations gospel to make your choices on @agile inlet

especially with things like being concerned over vers

vers is NOT bad

[vocal cradle]

im getting "target is too high level"

[nova kelp]

ESPECIALLY in m+

[sharp viper]

I am free (for now) - skardyn's grace grind is next

[wide ferry]

did area 52 just blow up again

[stoic rain]

Yep

[wide ferry]

literally..about to time a +8....mooottthherrrr fffffffff

[strange python]

all these bug fixes but no fix on clear the deck frontal hitting u at max range behind lol

[balmy condor]

they said they're fixing it

[strange python]

hope so

[balmy condor]

no

like

it's blue post

there is no hoping here

it's happening

[earnest remnant]

where coup hotfixes?

[shy pecan]

and sub buffs?

[balmy condor]

11.0.5

[nova kelp]

another month or so (probably)? right?

[earnest remnant]

I WANT MY 12CPS WORTH OF CDR MAN

[shadow badger]

anyone else not getting titan disc drops?

[nova kelp]

you don't get them in m+

[shadow badger]

im not getting them from rares either

[nova kelp]

unluggy uce

[shadow badger]

or raid

they are random?

[wooden flare]

i got 10 from a rare

[shadow badger]

this is the worst weekly ever implemented

[strange python]

yeah its pretty dumb

[wooden flare]

i mean its just kill 10 rares, or go dig some earth up, not that bad

[brazen jacinth]

think the bubbling wax thing was intended to keep rogues down

[bronze pike]

[brazen jacinth]

[bronze pike]

How will I get the cdr to make my non impactful abilities be less impactful

[cursive plaza]

rogues usually have 1 thing per expansion we can pickpocket thats somewhat cool tho T.T

[bronze pike]

[keen spruce]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[grave oriole]

!crafted

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[cyan summit]

SHEEEESH

[cyan summit]

come trade

[sour mist]

HERO TIER PIECE OR HERO WEP BOYS?

[pliant terrace]

not a bad first week vault

[runic hinge]

Ring for sure eh?

[novel star]

hella

[whole sand]

bro what did they do to my wax

they fucked me

[runic hinge]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[haughty flicker]

wax off

[severe sparrow]

1

fuck

wrong window

[cursive plaza]

wax still doesnt work on offhand right?

[finite yarrow]

was working for me just a minute ago

[whole sand]

wax doesn't work period

i mean if you have a wep below 610 i guess

[runic hinge]

Big brain play is to keep offhand at 606 and put wax on it

[cursive plaza]

im just in casual heroic progression mode this go around so ya offhand sucks XD

[keen spruce]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[lusty narwhal]

Void reapers contract or transmitter 🤔🤔🤔

Probably replaced once I find a skardyns

[slim pebble]

What is best weapon enhancement thing that ISNT whetstone cause that shit is still 3500 a pop on my server

[cursive plaza]

too soon

[spice surge]

Oil

[tawdry halo]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[raven halo]

does hitting boss from the back matter or can i be upfront?

damage wise

in a raid setting

[steady mica]

Vicious venoms vs sanguine/imp garrote?

[spiral gale]

for our tier off piece we want chest right?

[keen spruce]

Bosses will parry from the front. Which will reduce damage. And will REALLY reduce damage if they parry your kingsbane or something

So try to avoid being in front as much as possible

[spice surge]

Whatever you have thats higher ilvl

[kindred imp]

GW choice: hero ring or 4 set (lower tier though). Sim says ring is higher dps.....is 4set bonus not that great, or just not simming well? :?

[spice surge]

4 set sucks ye

Or well, 2p does too, just the set in general is weak

[kindred imp]

so go ring, delay 4set for a bit huh

good ring with socket too 🙂

[slow hatch]

do we ignore FOK for clear the witness if we have 1/2 VV?

[balmy condor]

yes

[spiral gale]

VV?

[steady mica]

vicous venoms

[stray raptor]

Idk what to choose... Sim says Back cuz of good stats, but the flayedwing toxin is a 20ivl upgrade and the chest is Hero and my current one is veteran 8/8... any recommendations ?

[keen spruce]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[kindred imp]

how much of an upgrade is the back in sim?

[keen spruce]

None of those other options are a rare weapon or trinket so just go with what the robot says

[stray raptor]

18.7k dps 5 boss, 5min

[keen spruce]

When was the last time you hit 5 bosses for 5 minutes

This isnt arcane mage Simming

[stray raptor]

whats are the right settings?

[keen spruce]

Just patchwerk 1 boss for raid usually

And dungeon slice for dungeons

[stray raptor]

okk good thx

[keen spruce]

I mean probably wouldn’t make a huge difference, but that’s what everyone uses

[keen spruce]

Toxin is okay trinket but you’ll be looking to replace it at some point pretty quickly

[next parcel]

is anyone good to look at my log to see what i need to do better please? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9Gdjr7yP2M8tkDLJ#fight=28&type=damage-done&source=318

[stray raptor]

yeah right, if 2p is good, I could get the chest and use my catalyst on my Hero helmet to get a 2p

[runic hinge]

Isn’t neck very rare?

[stray raptor]

maybe but the stats looks mid

[runic hinge]

Those stats look juiced to me and free verse proc

[inland escarp]

^

[cursive plaza]

sin just wants stats, moar stats!

[stray raptor]

you guys would get the neck for real?

[balmy condor]

easy pick yeah

[stray raptor]

wow alright thx lol

[cursive plaza]

i had heroic neck choice this week two, long term likely best upgrade if u get tier elsewhere ventually, crit/mast neck at same ilvl for me for example was worst

[valid panther]

did they break bubbling wax?

[balmy condor]

pins

[valid panther]

thanks

[haughty lantern]

i got the rasha'nan safety cloak 😄

fuckin sniped it with a 97

[spiral moth]

lame whetstones are expensive

[swift dagger]

1300g for rank 3 aint bad, or are these server-specific prices?

[spice surge]

Region specific

[lyric crater]

um is bubbling wax bug or some thing

[balmy condor]

pins

[quartz halo]

pins

[lyric crater]

got it ty

o god Damn why blizzard why

[viral ice]

can i have some advice on what to pick?

[woven shore]

what

[swift dagger]

Sim it. But the trinket (613) is decent if you dont have better ones at Hero track.

[haughty lantern]

question, is wax still worth using if i can stick it on my offhand?

my mainhand is a 619 regicide, my oh is a 606 stichflesh scalpel

[woven shore]

i think should work

under 610

its 606 so would make sense

[real granite]

i think wax does not proc on offhand

test it, but im pretty sure it cant

[lusty narwhal]

This is sad to see

[woven shore]

yes lol

[oblique jackal]

Aug is almost better then us

RIP

[blazing jewel]

Overall damage across all bosses is the best metric

[balmy condor]

well it doesn't proc at all anymore

[oblique jackal]

It's wild to see all three rogue specs at the bottom

[real granite]

wdym? not even on 610 weapon?

[woven shore]

well its not sooo bad tb

h

warrior deals 10% more dmg of what it looks like

and furor is very strong rn

i think thats pretty good balancing tbh

[balmy condor]

oh sure yah

but 610 weapon stinky

[woven shore]

today i got the 12k main stat trinket

but whisp said it suxs

[spice surge]

Good numerically, can be tricky to play with

Although you certainly do get used to it

[next parcel]

could someone check my log to see what i could do better? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9Gdjr7yP2M8tkDLJ#fight=28&type=damage-done&source=318

[scarlet wyvern]

this is mythic raiding buddy

probably wont apply to you for months to come

[toxic zephyr]

looks good overall. ilvl is low. i'd be curious if ur letting envenom drop before u reapply

[warped lily]

Are this % ok?

[tepid lichen]

if your sim says its ok then its ok

[frigid pilot]

any1 need daggers?

im the only rogue and i dont even need them

[runic hinge]

Yeah I need 2

[warped lily]

you mean siming my gear, o another sim?

[dawn anchor]

Did they stealth nerf Bubbling Wax?

[slate crown]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[dawn anchor]

[slate crown]

[arctic socket]

anyone of yall lovely people

got a 7 grim

i can run with ya?

rogue life

[sudden phoenix]

Hey guys trinket question.

I got a mad queens mandate 619 in my vault and a 619 treach transmitter. The treach sims higher by 6k even though madqueens is a tier and 2nd bis and the treach is c tier

I go with madqueens right and ignore the sim?

[lean nimbus]

Should I be using envenom at 5+ combo points almost every time?

[wintry jackal]

best brann spec?

[prisma tundra]

im extremely unqualified to answer but i think raid rogues are using transmitter and mythic + the minigame is too much of a hassle

or at least the leading rogue was using transmitter at some point

[tepid lichen]

transmitter good but annoying to play

[arctic socket]

queen's mandate SLAPS

i would take it

transmitter is good but fuck mini games

[prisma tundra]

personally since its heroic id prob just want to grind out the mythic + trinkets instead

wont be very difficult to do next week

[arctic socket]

mandate sims alot better then most m+ trinkets

[runic hinge]

Fuck mandate tho

[arctic socket]

naw bro

mandate is the move

[prisma tundra]

maybe but its aids to play with compared to just sac/skardyn

[arctic socket]

it's not aids at all

you send skardyns with deathmark

wait 30 seconds

send the trinket

repeat

Shit is critting for 10m+

shit is BUSTED

[pastel cradle]

are you guys able to run t8 delves solo?

[arctic socket]

Overall with only 6 casts

[latent pike]

Slowly and with a specific Bran build

[mint urchin]

Does Clear the Witnesses have a trackable buff icon?

[balmy condor]

yes

[pastel cradle]

what would you recommend for brann build?

[mint urchin]

Does it not apply to pvp dummys or something?

[arctic socket]

https://wago.io/e-0PKZB3K

@mint urchin

[arctic socket]

[pastel cradle]

nice ty

[mint urchin]

I've been trying to make a WA work for it and I just can't get it functioning, I'll try this one

Thanks

[latent pike]

Tag the mob and let bran get some aggro before you do any damage

[arctic socket]

weakaura i just sent is made by @slate crown GOATED person tbh

[latent pike]

if you do get aggro, kite them through traps

[prisma tundra]

best is to grab a tank friend tho and u can do 8 delves in like 30 min

[arctic socket]

What's the point in doing delves still tho?

[latent pike]

100% agree. You can also fill a group for it with group finder

[prisma tundra]

i dunno he wanted to do it

[pastel cradle]

yeah i've been doing it in groups, but just wanted to see if there was away to do it solo

[prisma tundra]

heroic tier pieces

not everyone is a mythic raider

or has friends to mythic+

[mint urchin]

Does it have two different spell ID's? Maybe thats been the issue

this WA has a completely different ID

[spice spire]

It does

[latent pike]

Hey, does anyone know where i can find info on our tier? as in damage % increase and things like that

[prisma crescent]

How many PIs before your log gets invalidated?

[spice spire]

2.4% total

[arctic socket]

naw

2.6%

[latent pike]

With 4?

[spice spire]

The hey have to overlap

[arctic socket]

Yeah total

[spice spire]

Yes

[spice spire]

Fight me dog

[latent pike]

And only 2?

[pastel cradle]

got 1 champ dagger and 1 explorer dagger lol...

[arctic socket]

1.3%

[spice surge]

More than 1 every 2 minutes

[arctic socket]

2p 1.3% 4p 1,3%

[spice spire]

[arctic socket]

craft a 619

[latent pike]

hmm, i was hoping that it would increase my single target in mythic +

[prisma tundra]

thats what we have the arcane mage for

[pastel cradle]

sheesh id love to

[runic hinge]

Does it have a cast time

[arctic socket]

Yaeh

like a

.7

or some shit

feels like a gcd

[runic hinge]

I ain’t running it

[arctic socket]

Trollin

[runic hinge]

Yeah maybe

[arctic socket]

i thought it was gonna be bad using two on use trinkets

but my damn is it good

i also have a wide trinket selection

[runic hinge]

I don’t. I’m using transmitter and princess trink tho so I’m not butthurt about it

[spice surge]

Its not really that insane

[arctic socket]

feels good

also sims good

[frigid pilot]

yo sin finally feelin good

cant get into 7+ grim batol

but my warbound 606 max transmitter is doing ok

[arctic socket]

One of the trinkets i haven;t got yet, how well does it feel? like the mini games

[arctic socket]

i have been trying to get into a +7 grim for the past 45 mins, sitting at 2072 io 615 ilvl

[runic hinge]

Annoying depending on which you get and depending on the boss but tbh not that bad.

[prisma crescent]

Had to choose tier piece over heroic track skardyn this afternoon 🥺

[arctic socket]

peak your name

[runic hinge]

You get jump 3 times it’s fine always. You get stand in the black blood on second boss you feel like a dummy

[arctic socket]

Seems like a "fun" trinket

[runic hinge]

I had to turn down all spell effect because one time I legit couldn’t see what even spawned

[arctic socket]

Yeah so you will do all of that

but you wont like

take a gcd cast time trinket

[winged basin]

HEROIC BROOD GIGACHAD CAUSTIC SPATTER SIN ROGUE HERO

I absolutely LOCKED IN, and thought I parsed higher then 90, but WE OUT HERE
\

[runic hinge]

Correct. Cause I can still push my buttons while I’m chasing a ball

[arctic socket]

Ahhh

chasing balls

i understand why you like the trinket now

[runic hinge]

[frigid pilot]

im in the same boat

i thought we were meta?

like

[proud salmon]

what's the idea for shrouded vs

vicious?

[arctic socket]

Meta? No

[frigid pilot]

i timed 9s, mufukas with 1100 IO and a 7 key r rejecting rogues

[proud salmon]

with sanguine blades

[frigid pilot]

wtf is going on

then i host my own and sit 2 hrs for a tank

[arctic socket]

Yuppp

then we finally get into a group

and like

this happens

[warped lily]

Guys are we bad at raid, or is skill issue?

how cringe is to swithc to Outlaw

[frigid pilot]

bruh

sin/sub is bis

[balmy condor]

both

[cedar hatch]

Outlaw is trash for progres

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-22712908

(its lfr)

[winged basin]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/zuljin/toadd any advice on things I can improve on, I am working on not letting my bleeds fall off, which has been an issue

[warped lily]

what about mythic+, it outlaw outpeforming sin?

[balmy condor]

don't think so

[tranquil flint]

the silence from iron wire spread alone to help positioning early is so valuable imo

would be ok with less damage than outlaw

but its not in my case at least

[winged basin]

also ignore my AWFUL inability to stay alive on blood boss, he is the bane of my existance these first 2 weeks

[alpine oracle]

peopleeeeeeee

is outlaw better for m+? in terms of overrall

[cerulean walrus]

IDK are you better at playing outlaw?

[balmy dome]

Do you guys hard swap to adds in bloodbound mythic or just use caustic to dmg?

[balmy condor]

you have to hard swap

caustic will never reach from the boss

adds are like 40 yards from center of boss

[cyan summit]

Skill issue

[cyan summit]

Nope

[winged basin]

I am gigapumping in raid

[uncut vapor]

what cheap food are you guys running for dungeons? I dont have the pockets for feasts

[winged basin]

beledars bounty is super super cheap

[honest pelican]

yeap, it was even cheaper a week ago

bought 200 for 10g a pop, they went up to ~40 and now back to like 30g

[winged basin]

like 30g on zuljin

[balmy dome]

thanks!

[prisma crescent]

you might parse better if you dont die

[kindred imp]

Dont run lethality 2 points, run Resounding Clarity if you are playing this build. I dont know why you have only 1 ambush cast, I seem to have 9 on that boss. Are you using ure ambush procs?
You are using your deathmark after your Kingsbane finishes and your shiv is random. You gotta close those groupings up, use them together for a big spike.

[winged basin]

https://tenor.com/view/whoa-look-at-that-wtf-wth-gif-14959808

[slate crown]

YOU'RE SPREADING IT AND THUS PUSHING ME TO MAKE GIFS

[timber meadow]

how does the affix work - does the buff stack? like if you get 20 orbs you just get 60% mastery lol

[wide sundial]

Hey, is the 4 tier set bonus a must have? or is better to prio ilvel upgrade, asuming i need to use a catalyst charge in a champion item for having the 4 pieces.

[arctic socket]

it's a good thingy

very good

[timber meadow]

like if it stacks - do you just have a good mastery class collect all of them and go absolutely ham?

cause it bypasses dr right

[slim pebble]

I got two set from raid, I think I should take the ring? It’s already got a socket

[arctic socket]

sockets dont matter on jewerly

you can put 2 on it yourself

[slim pebble]

It’s cheaper though tbf lol

[arctic socket]

Just go run gb for 60 mins 😄

[slate crown]

Sockets went up too

they were 12.5k all weekend

now they're 18k

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[vapid terrace]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[slim pebble]

Yall are getting into keys?

[arctic socket]

Costed me a kidney ngl

[arctic socket]

Brotha

I would much rather be waiting to get int oa key

then what i just expeirecend

i got into a group with a 595 tank pulling 3 packs at a time

yelling ww to soulstone him 24/7

externals 24/7

then he hits me one of the best lines i have seen

[floral solstice]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[slim pebble]

I got onto a NW where I was 80% of the groups damage on the first boss.

[timber meadow]

does the affix stack and bypass dr? so like you can just get 20% non-dr's mastery going into a pull?

[calm nymph]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[frigid heron]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[nocturne quail]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[wise plume]

i am happy

[slim pebble]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gLSt2yBmGzWyAm6wsvD5rp

Seems like ring is the option here

[willow cloud]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

simming in m+ talents btw but yes ring is good

[slim pebble]

Good catch lol

Glad I waited for raid though cause I would have taken tier before and I got shoulderrs in raid

[calm nymph]

any visible improvements?

aoe rotation

crimson dance was really low i noticed immediately

[haughty flicker]

holy fuck exile gets another daggy

and doesnt even need it

[slate crown]

wild reclear clean af

[spice spire]

Ct needs to be up more

That’s real low

[runic hinge]

He needs the mog

Fashion craft is the true end game

[calm nymph]

hows this

[arctic socket]

1 up me

[indigo mulch]

Thats a true weekly no leaver key.

[spice spire]

Absolutely not

[calm nymph]

anyone have a good DBM import?

[real granite]

If im applying amply. poison throught fok to 2 targets, and one of them have ds, is it worth to sneak 1 envenom on the secondary target (no ds) to burn out amplys?

my guess is its not worth, but

[balmy condor]

no

[real granite]

ty

[icy girder]

2 dawn thread pieces doesnt stack?

[balmy condor]

!dawnthread

[prisma monolith]

Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.

[icy girder]

thanks

[haughty flicker]

np

[woven shore]

rogues still suck

[compact quartz]

Hi guys, I just started playing assass as it looks like they've added a lot to make it much more interactive than it used to be.
Just curious what people would recommend I do plater wise, should I just find an assass profile or is it not that necessary and I should just learn the spec and blacklist / edit things myself?
Feels like there might be some really good plater profiles / settings I could utilize

[real granite]

i've tried a few of them and my personal choice is jundies plater profile

just made casting bars a bit taller and thats it

[glossy lintel]

Re: crafting -- 2x Dawnthread means 1x Dawnthread Lining and 1x Writhing Armor Banding right?

[compact quartz]

Thing is - for qol / personal preference reasons, I just want to use what I already have, just with good debuff settings suitable for assass, it would be good if I could just copy the debuffs of a profile

[real granite]

if i understand you correctly, what you want is to copy buff/debuff blacklist and whitelists, you can do that

[inland escarp]

Naw, 2 dawnthreads

[glossy lintel]

So it just doubles the effect?

[inland escarp]

Yes you get the effect from each

[glossy lintel]

I thought the 'unique' applied to embellishments on their own

Ahh ok. Thanks

[novel dragon]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[arctic socket]

Maybe you do, but nah rogue is pumpin

[novel dragon]

Is this a bug? Wax not being able to go on 610 ilvl stuff?

[arctic socket]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[compact quartz]

ty

[arctic socket]

Time to use mana oil

[normal kindle]

what should i take ?

[dawn heath]

isnt this crazy?

check my predictions msg

before vault

[arctic socket]

Sim it

[runic hinge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[arctic socket]

Gratz

Gilded crest farming time

[dawn heath]

isnt it crazy

how i predict the item

[compact quartz]

TY

[dawn heath]

its only 1 mythic slot

[buoyant steeple]

hard choice yoo, skardyns grace is big haha 😄

[wise plume]

so there's no longer a fort/tyran separation when it comes to rating?

[buoyant steeple]

but im missing 4p

[true rapids]

lucky duck im on like my 28th gb so far only seen the trinket once

[balmy condor]

+10 keys are both fort and tyran at the same time

[junior yoke]

lol

[balmy condor]

chinchilla de ritual

[junior yoke]

jaajahajaa

cmon man 😦

[pliant remnant]

VINCULASOMB

[wise plume]

but like rating wise they're no longer separated?

[balmy condor]

well yeah why would they be

keys are both fort and tyran every week

[wise plume]

yeah fair

sadge

[real granite]

sadge?

did you like not playing every 2 weeks? xD

[wise plume]

i really just hate tyrannical, and I loathe this seasons dungeon rotation

[junior yoke]

got 2 tier to choose and this trinket

i'm simming but..

[pine pecan]

in m+ do i wait to use mandate as an execute to reduce 60s? or just use it on CD

[arctic socket]

Stacked vault gg

[balmy condor]

whichever you're more comfortable with

I assume it's probably really hard to always be sniping

[arctic socket]

Whispyr mandate feels so good

[balmy condor]

yah good trinket

[arctic socket]

Very

[spark socket]

lol one of the best vaults ive got

is transmitter and grace viable together?

[visual vault]

is it alright to refresh garrote and rupture early so i make sure they dont fall during my cd windows?

[balmy condor]

no

you only ever use 1 on use stat

cause like what would the second one be buffing

[balmy condor]

no

[junior yoke]

is it possible that chinchilla trinket is better than 2 tier set?

[balmy condor]

refresh them during your cds

[arctic socket]

Gratz on your spyglass? Mayb

[balmy condor]

yeah probably

[visual vault]

thanks for answering!

[spark socket]

i guess

[junior yoke]

lmao 😢

[spark socket]

oky thanks

[sudden brook]

This spec in M+ sucks

[arctic socket]

Chinchilla trinket is wild

[sudden brook]

Too many things

[arctic socket]

Go outlaw n blast

[balmy condor]

chinchilla de alphabetsoup

[junior yoke]

yeah raidbot says +20k

[sudden brook]

Well thats what I did after 1 dungeon

Gotta track darkest knight, CT, garrotes, ur stupid carnage

grrrr

[arctic socket]

Maybe you just aren’t cut out for sin

Maybe carpel tunnel is your calling

[coral ibex]

is there a weakaura that tracks how many bleeding targets you have currently

that just sticks a number on your screen

[balmy condor]

I track scent stacks but idk if there's a counter for just bleeds

seems strange

[spark socket]

if for rupture the luxthos wa is showing naturally

[coral ibex]

yea thats what i meant sorry

[junior yoke]

I'll have to pick it then, I got a great vault sadly I can choose just 1

[coral ibex]

for ruptured targets

[arctic socket]

@sudden brook how well is outlaw doing in keys currently though

[junior yoke]

never expected this trink to be over t2 set

[balmy condor]

yeah just add a trigger to your rupture tracker for scent of blood, then go to display and do %2.s

or whatever the trigger number is

ggwp

[arctic socket]

This seasons tier kinda sucks

[coral ibex]

i use atrocityui but want to tweak it a bit

[feral mesa]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[junior yoke]

I mean yeah... it has to

if a delve >> t2

[arctic socket]

The knife is also pretty strong though

[junior yoke]

yeah tthat's whan I'm picking

[visual vault]

i saw one on wago. use it just to make sure i have at least 5 bleeds up. https://wago.io/hItzvKdk0

white number is number of target and the red one is how many active ruptures you have on.

[arctic socket]

Close to 4k agi + mastery stat stick kinda hard To beat

[devout sand]

the 2 - set bonus for sin rogue says it increases poison damage does that mean envenom and kingsbane damage is increased even though it says nature?

[arctic socket]

Poison is nature

[devout sand]

ah ok thank you

[spring prawn]

2nd socket pog

xdd

[real granite]

how its possible that an upgrade of 4ilvl is making me lose dps

what am i missing here

[spring prawn]

unbelievable. grinded 8 m10s and got jack shit

[clever perch]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[clever perch]

Is anyone playing with Fatebound in raid?

[sudden brook]

Feels p good

[clever perch]

i guess his problem is still aoe capped i guess if compared with assa

[wide hawk]

myth track ring with leech, ritual-knife trinket with speed

[novel elbow]

question: Wowhead assasination guide recommends Dawnthread Lining embelishment. foo spreadsheet recommends elemental focusing lens.. unless I'm misunderstanding the purpose of that simcraft link and it's meant just for trinket power. Err... did i screw up by making crit/mastery belt with the elemental focusing lense?

[clever perch]

if u're raiding and ur hp is not above 80% normally, just go for ascension + writhing

question is, what item do we craft with 2nd spark to use writhing armor banding?

[real granite]

@balmy condor i just tested wax on offhand, and its proccing correctly O.o (610)

[surreal wedge]

The heroic helmet or the trink?

[cunning urchin]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[novel elbow]

ok, so I probably screwed up but not too badly and the recraft can wait for when i have the guilded crest for it. The other question still remains though, am I using the foo spreadsheet "trinket sim" wrong by thinking it's a BiS list I should be shooting for?

[surreal wedge]

i have vet on my helm and on my trinket

[glass fulcrum]

!bis

[prisma monolith]

BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.

Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS is especially not helpful, and we do not have any of them. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character

[glass fulcrum]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[novel elbow]

ty!

[cyan summit]

Which gear pieces u should upgrade first ?

[slim siren]

Did they stop us from using bubblign wax?

its saying its to high level to put it on

[wet dagger]

Weapons>trinkets>big stat pieces (helm chest legs)>jewellery/other pieces

[cyan summit]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[cyan summit]

@slim siren

[slim siren]

thats fucking awful that must have just happened

cause i was just using it

[cyan summit]

Ty

[river acorn]

Isn't sacbrood supposed to be our bis trinket? It sims terrible for me

[wide hawk]

yeah it was "hotfixed", I was using it last night in raid and couldn't reapply my wax, thought it was a UI issue at first.

[daring hamlet]

am i crazy or is getting like 20% mastery going into pulls insane for assa

[cyan summit]

Is it worth crafting dagger with no embelshment?

[plain ridge]

does the ascendance embellish have to go on a weapon?

[clever perch]

y

[novel star]

finally fuckin ksm after 9 years

dogshit 4set YIPEEEEEE

[reef axle]

Welp bubbling wax is useless now.

[waxen oyster]

free double 626 regicide

XD

[novel star]

always has been

[latent pike]

If 5-6 Bleeds is "optimal" for energy maintenance during cooldowns. Shouldn't these garrotes turn into something else? Like FoK into some extra ruptures? I am using the "Hybrid" build

[slate crown]

If you're opening from stealth, you want the garrotes because they'll be improved

[novel star]

improved garrote + ic is really high value from one gcd

[slate crown]

Because they go damage

[novel star]

manually applied unimproved garrotes is when its not worth

[slate crown]

garrets go brrrr

dmg dmg dmg

[latent pike]

So just the pure damage of it is worth it as long as they are improved

[slate crown]

Yes, which they will be if from stealth and in your opener

later on, non improved garrotes are low value in aoe

[latent pike]

i was just thinking if you were in a big pack, those extra garrotes are giving you un-needed energy and they are going to wear off faster, where the ruptures would stay on

to continue giving energy

i didnt realize that garrote itself did so much damage

[slate crown]

Improved garrotes when cleaved per gcd do

also silence from ironwire

[latent pike]

Other than that its just for Caustic spatter i guess, dont attempt to spread them?

[slate crown]

caustic needs rupture not garrote

if you're in a chain pull and can't restealth, single garrotes in aoe are not really worth spreading

get your ruptures up and ct rolling

[latent pike]

........

i had that so messed up

[hollow talon]

Is the double effect embellishment good

[latent pike]

that is so game changing

[hollow talon]

Don't see it in the FAQ

[cedar elm]

are we shiving at start of kingsbane or half way through

[slate crown]

Like low target cleave you would still garrote

it's just like, a large pack ruptures into CT is more important

[latent pike]

i just mean for caustic

[slate crown]

Ah yeah

[latent pike]

i had the two mixed up

[slate crown]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[latent pike]

and i hate casting garrote in the middle of a huge pack just to reapply it, especially since i dont even need to. Thank you very much for the help. @slate crown

[slate crown]

If you're playing single shiv, halfway through, then on cooldown assuming you're talking about M+

[junior yoke]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[slate crown]

IF you're playing double shiv, cover KB

[timid haven]

Yo is bubbling wax bugged?

[slate crown]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[arctic socket]

Wax bad

We mana oil enjoyers

[heady wigeon]

wax Funky pops

[timid haven]

Oh damn was that a hot fix today?

[keen rover]

!consumables

[latent pike]

Anyone have a WA for Darkest Night?

[strange maple]

bubbling wax not usable now ?

it says target level too high

[heady wigeon]

not on weeapon 610

[keen rover]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[heady wigeon]

just ofhand it

[strange maple]

oh no

okok

[timid haven]

i was enjoying not buying whetstones lol

[strange maple]

yea me too

i think it actually fun to spent time pickpocketing and lockpicking haha

[silver copper]

So i have in my vault hero neck and back from the raid. Which one should i choose? Neck gives 20k and back 4k

[slate crown]

!wa each of these packs will have one you can yoink. But if you just want Darkest night alone, it's a buff on your character, could be made as a simple template aura

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[silver escarp]

Hey, uuh raidbot is telling me to use the diamond and then the same 5 other gem. Isn't it better to use other type of gems? For the bonus crit?

[silver copper]

Back would increase survability

[slate crown]

It's a very minor difference

[silver escarp]

Oh so no problem if i use the 5 same gem then?

[slate crown]

Raidbots are accurate

the damage difference will be as described

[silver escarp]

Okay thanks guess i'll do that

Well it didn't even consider using multiple color xD

[slate crown]

there's a checbox for it I think

If it didn't consider and test it for you then you didn't really test it