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yeah I mean it's kinda close to triadic
so I'm thinking maybe I can sneak it by moving the blue over
and then everything fits
perhaps
my bad 3am is no dooming hour
wait for inevitable assas nerfs in a week or two 
also go to bed 
Outlaw was shit until people played it and then it was op and then it got a 2% nerf and now it’s shit again

its a 2% nerf including tier
Are the cleave and bleed m+ builds in any way viable at the moment ?
And assassin is … mid?
Also possible
i guess sub also caught an unintended ST nerf too but yea
At the end of the day community is just dumb
which nerf
Just kill boss :3
always comes back to assa bc every other spec can’t press feint/crimson vial on cd and not lose infinity dps 
at least whispyr you dont have to deal with the "but outlaw simming the highest" questions
20x a day
what craft good for assasin ?
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
plenty of time to press feint while you wait for 70% energy
shouldnt it affect sub more
can’t press feint in dance
since they can get mark up more than sin can
well you can but
True, I have to deal with m+ players double vanishing and a guy earlier spamming CT in aoe and telling people to “just test it”, which is far worse
it would suck bad
too bad they took away feint for damage trickster
Where's the kush aberrus clip
"i wont feint in dance heal me"
based
Am i missing something, why are they complaining?
well i still was floorpov for a few hrs today 
idk how this boss proc’d the blaze lines not being feintable
like that’s wild because it worked on fyrakk iirc?
not without elusiveness no
ok fuck i've been inting globals
pressing feint
and yes feint did work on fyrak blaze iirc
was a good safety net from terrorists
double hit with elusiveness feint up atm is a one shot
cloak is the only way to live any cleave situation
maybe if ur actually 100% hp not sure
idk i watched impec stand in the cone cleave with blaze and live so that guy is a TANK
ovinaxx looks like stress central as melee
good thing they removed long arms
melee had it too good for too long
real
heal me senpai
and crack
Its the same as pressing barrier in combust, kinda
oh
but sometimes you just wanna live
is the trinket from stonevault any good for us?
I will not use defensives, heal my character, or whatever my goat says
Alter time is off the gcd. You just pray its not a 1 shot
Man i opened dc and got scared by all the yellow. Then i realised i had outlaw channel open 
Always has been
Yeah i didn't play mage back then
So ig not always has been
Always has been since SL
yeah it used to
snapshot your dps buffs
so mages would troll racial
alter back
get full value
and trinket procs

And imho the desaturated helps. Quazii Sat cranked to 11 hurts me
It’s a bit jarring yeah
Full 255-0-255

I mean I don’t blame him, the default hex code colors are kinda doggers
But Jesus fuck
And in Quazii vid he says to change the colours you need to go through each mob one-by-one. In Vesperal he says just shift click when changing one mob and it will change all mobs with same colour. Maybe new feature or maybe Quazii just didn’t know.
I was already sleeping profoundly
Yeh idk I’m gonna go try it just got home
Just got 3 maps in 2 delves
I got one from the first delve i did, zekvir showed up in the second and dropped another and a third dropped at the end of the second delve, 2 delves and 3 maps
gave me this, which is nice cause my trinkets are NOT good
wait nvm that's somehow worse than the 593 shadowed essence???????
I also got that trink, no main stat only crit and damage proc
Same with illidan dagger, no secondary stats only proc
Bad stuff 😦
1.6% worse than this? that's crazy
Mine is worse than a 587 agi+crit proc candle
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
Okay well
Fix him
What do we pay you for
If only feint was an offensive ability thst was part of your normal rotation 
Exile what is your opinion on coup de grace extended gcd
It's there any festival buff / quest you accepted from the festival?
It could be very "tricky" to use 
coup gcd makes me explode
mental boom
i get 3 coups in burst window and then miss the sectech in flag by 0.1 sec
big tilter
LOL
Coup gcd makes me explode too, in my pants
I don’t mind slowing down a bit but when it makes doing your rotation properly harder
Shit feels incredible
dog?
Ngl

HUH
i don’t play with dmg numbers so i can’t tell rly
yeah but secret tech is "meatier". shadow clone jutsu makes my young otaku self smile
Okay you’re back to based
That’s my streamer
will be showing it on ansurek so i know if i’m cleaving ads with spatter/nimble flurry tho so
gg

Hi, I am trying assa rogue. And the guides I am checking says that if I am using Dragon-Tempered Blades I should use 3 poisons. Why not use 4 poisons?
you want to use 4 poisons. there might be some super niche times where crippling poison is kind of griefing but yeah send 4
sanguine....good times

if I catalyst a helm with a socket will the tier piece inherit the socket?
yes
pog
where does it say 3 poisons?
is it worth casting kingsbane/shiv in large pulls with no priority target?
yes
maxroll:
very much so

maybe I'm dumb but what is the damage buff interaction for aoe
I have nothing good to say
kingsbane spatters
ah
big spatter damage
idk there doesn't seem to a big difference between pulls where I have deathmark/kb up and those where I don't
really? the burst is very noticeably higher for me
Are you KBing the spatter target
yes
I mean just on concept, kingsbane spatter and double amp poison from deathmark is big
double amp poison is just flat out another 35% on the procced env
which is like
a lot
it's a pretty big kaboom
Really depends on the comp too though. If I'm running with friends all the spatter targets are dead before my kingsbane goes off on prio targets lol
that probably is it too, these 7 keys are kind of pissy
7zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
same
I parsed well on Sikran and beans on Nexus-Pwincess uwu. make it make sense 
is there anything bugged about Bubbling Wax? thought i saw someone talking about it yesterday somewhere
got more crits on sikran
than you did on nexus
yeah sometimes it doesn't work in raids
and it doesn't stack
and it breaks if you die
and it also sometimes maybe doesn't work in your offhand
and there's also maybe some hitbox issues cause it's an aoe
where big hitbox enemies
so what your saying
just don't take damage
is dont use it
I'm saying it's bugged in so many ways it's hard to keep the bugs apart
I see, I see
some of those bugs are probably overlapping
Are sims working properly for delve trinkets? The two I have are simming less than 1% than dungeon trinkets. Except the on use mastery one
well, it's still 0 gold instead of a billion gold to stock on other weapon stuff, so the bugs are a fair compensation
yes
Finally got a trinket to drop on hero track and it wasn't an upgrade. Felt bad.
i was actually poppin off on crits, almost 10% more on envenom and kb each
6mins to kill nexus princess probably didn't help too though
the only reasonable delve trinket is ritual knife tbh
my cat ...
everything else is just kinda meh
but then again, blizzard said they would tune them
after their recent trinket tuning
so :))))
I got the on use haste and the movement speed one.
GOODIE GOODIE GUMDROPS
there a minimum haste for m+? or just sim everything as always XD
no minimum no breakpoints no max no recommended no suggested no nothing
fair
nah
Whatever percentage vibes the best. Go with that
Real talk though. Bring back reforging Blizz.
pls no
how good is Siphoning Stiletto?
its terrible, dont craft it
does the mirror count?
It can yes, but not for you, you beautiful mfker
TELL THAT MAN ROYAL
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
i look like a hobo atm
talk ur shit king
If I already have Mad Queen's Mandate, am I wanting egg or Skardyn's?
hobo king
skardyns
Appreciate it
use skardyns with your CDs, and mandate whenever you can use it after
It's pretty fun to use. Seeing that 9m crit is juicy
ug
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
!sheet
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
If you multi spec, the craft is double dawnthread hands down no ?
are people running wihtout a trace build over echoing for m+ ?
No you want to craft a dagger with darkmoon emb at 636
That gives you the most options
You can't outlaw game and play sin and sub
In tirna scithe After First Boss in the maze if i Enter a new area in stealth it always gets me out of stealth. Any tips to avoid going out of stealth?
You gotta commit to either dagger or sword gameplay
stay back until the tank pulls
this was just talked about 20 min ago
if you look up
With back you mean in the „old“ room?
the mobs spawning destealth
Not if I embellish double thread, you see what I meant ?
Emb are w/e anyways
They are like 10k apart
Which is nothing
You doing 1 mill dps
Skill issue. Ngl
There is no argument there echo does more damage
yeha
no

2nd vanish isnt even a "build"
its straight up trolling for no reason
like, there is no worse choice you can do in the entire game then that talent wise
i was watching whispyr's stream yesterday and he had an addon which was pointing out thing like "fixate on you" on bosses, does anyone know what addon does that? i dont think its a DMB, maybe a weak aura?
picking 4other random talents is more benefical then taking the 4without a trace talents
probs bigwigs or just a dungeon pack WA
hmm
where do you find bubbling wax?
!wax
Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:
- Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
- The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
- If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds
tyty
also if u do it, search pickpocket macro it makes it easierw
#showtooltip Pick Pocket
/targetenemy [harm][no dead]
/cast Pick Pocket
/cleartarget
Could someone explain to me why the top guilds prefer to bring assa over sub/outlaw that supposedly do more ST dps?
wdym? im watching echo prog and they have a sub rogue
ah right
also i think it depends on the fight
i believe i didnt get an answer on this yesterday, does anyone know anything about this?
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Have we tried just using stronger toxins to make our potions better
using wut?
Have we tried just using stronger toxins to make our potions better
Good idea! Will make a note of it 
Yea just add more stuff to the next batch
you'd think that after killing literal gods and demons we'd be able to whip up a potion that gives more than 2600 agi
and a thicc spooder lady wouldn't be that much of an issue

!wa
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Heya got a question
On a pack
why can't i garot ruptur garot ruptur
into ambush after to proc my focus dps st
if i garot rupture i lose my ambush
i can't ambush
when i see zerocool do it he can
there is a talent ?
bcs when tank doing setup , i can't start with ambush opn smallies
it procs night traqu
He plays subterfuge I believe
he is
use tricks and ambush?
nope
nope
you can't start with ambush
on dj
tank never taking big pull first
so u delay ur dps 10s ?
im not that experienced with assassination. do we have good dmg in m+ if kingsbane/deathmark is not ready?
yeah kinda
what is dj?
xd
wiping on dj tiesto tonight
2nd from the bottom
okay, and if we open into a pack and like only kingsbane is ready, but not deathmark. do we start with kingsbane?
class tree
but also probably just don't use that
its better to have subter on M+?
This is what zerocool does to the new guys
right ?
no
subter is ass
stop linking it 
I mean, @turbid crest
whispyr gonna come in here and murder everyone
subterfuge / double vanish right now sucks balls
Reminds me of when JPC played deathly shadows so everyone crafted that legendary in shadowlands as well, but it was ass
just copy everything from here
smh
since you wont read talents
@turbid crest when you start a dungeon, just tricks on tanks then set up your ambush, if you play with a good tank, you could stealth between packs or just set up again with vanish
But your mark is supposed to be up kinda on all packs so you can profite of your deathmark

Deathly Shadows isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a legendary with such a dps increase? DS puts the game on another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see an item with this much of a raider IO increase for rogues again. Celerity breaks records. Master Assassin breaks records. Deathly Shadows breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.
didnt pull big , he connect after
i put mark on smallies
then i cannot switch on big one
its ass ?
Vanish
you cant vanish every pack
Exactly
Yep just to get the darkest
xd
!tricks
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
not really
u can macro trinket with kings but not tea
cause tea is like giving you so much mastery
u want tea for energy
not mastery portion
I mean u could pop with 3 tea stacks with cds
So on a pack
especially in m+
It's just a plus, you need to funnel envenoms
or not at all
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
go to these @turbid crest
really good
whispyr is goated
true
makes you smarter
exactly bro hahah
time to whip out the ol "how unlucky" spreadsheet
why would you farm that trinket
kekW
let me go dust off that bad boy
Guys thought on crafting with +4 to +8 crest ? I wanted to wait for +9 crest but I'm struggling doing keys with paggs
I mean I remember plagufall
took me 50 runs
my dh friend needed 134 cos for the trinket kekW
he was not a happy camper
do you ever open a pack directly with kingsbane or deathmark in m+ (considering one of them is ready?)?
or you guy always for a proper opener, listed for example by wowhead
damn ficelles du metier hits different
I have a question about enchants. I'm seeing wowhead recommend avoidance for the wrist slot, but leech looks like it could be great as well for the sustain. What are your thoughts?
Avoidance is the best tertiary, leech as a tertiary is very miniscule and doesn't really do much at all
!tricks
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
@normal mist so its normal for us to have a few seconds ramp up time, in ST and in AOE?
Garrote and Rupture first, you want ruptures on multiple targets for Agi boost, then proc caustic spatter on one target, pref with most health, and pump CDs into that one which will cleave then
Avoidance directly reduces how much damage you take from AoE
Yes
Our damage is not frontloaded like it is for some other specs in the game
Or rather, most specs specs in the game
we are melee affli locks
If you see there’s a DK popping on a big pull, save ur CDs for next one if there’s enough time until boss pull
Anyone can tell me what's this like how it's working ?
Mb just saw the WA
You have the wa with this ?
Hello, is there a section or file with useful Macros besides the basic ones on wowhead/icyviens?
nah
xD you need tho
fck me
!wa
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Daheck is „dj“?
🧐
Is there a reason nobody is crafting the Siphoning Stiletto dagger? the one with the onhit effect?
Do you think we can macro something when we press tab to get back our target with mark ?
definitely not
because its dogshit
does 0 dmg and you dmg yourself
lol
and it allready beginns
people that afk in town instead of just walking 20sec for GB
asking for a summon for 5min
🙂
i hate wow players
Yep got it this morning tho, some are even doing professions until getting sum 🤡
yo guys what are the best Trinkers for Sin, Grace and Ara kara?
Hey why do we recomment wrist/belt over boots ?
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
no particular reason
can craft boots just fine
perfect 😄
but adding a socket from the vault imo feels less ewww
if you know you wont replace the item
wrist/belt u can open socket and u will use for all of the season probably so
(unless you get a mythic belt of course)
!up
i know that 2x dawnthread lining is preferred. but what if we want to go for a dagger coz of unlucky drops. how much off a loss is darkmoon sigil ascension?
nothing MAJOR, a bit weaker in m+
I haven't played rogue for a long time, and assa fells kinda "slow". Not regarding the play style but like slow in form of movement speed and so on. I have like "only" spring and shadow step, or am I missing something?
!design
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
nvm i read slow
we're not using speed talents so yeah
Should I pool and maintain over 50% energy for envenom damage?
if you feel slow in stealth
its because we dont really use this
otherwise, we still have our 15% from fleet footed
if deathstalker, you want to maintain the envenom buff without overcapping energy
personally I take this, dont really understand the reasoning for taking Rushed Setup over it, isnt it kinda shit?
yeah I've been trying to understand the reasoning for people taking it, are distract/kidney used that much in higher keys to make it worth maybe?
!up
Shadowrunner: You move 20% faster in stealth. If you're in stealth you're not dealing damage. If you're not dealing damage it's because your party is moving to another pack. If you move faster you reach the pack sooner, which then makes you wait for them to catch up. Value on moving faster? 0.
Rushed Setup: A bunch of mobs are stunnable, 8sec kidney on some packs casters can do wonders, if you 8s stun a caster every 30 seconds, you're already taking advantage of that talent, if even by just a lil bit of energy save. It isn't a HUGE difference, but it's something.
You used to be good man, get yourself together
Just feel like I can end up behind tanks chainpulling even with the talent
You can shadowstep to other players to help keep up
yeah it usually ends up in shadowstep or sprinting but feel like it does help a bit to get in position to open up on a key target and then spreading IC and whatever
and just the feel of the extra movespeed is personally more valuable than like 5 energy on kidney, but I can understand the reasoning, thanks! 👍
!wax
Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:
- Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
- The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
- If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds
In the end of the day, we play what we like and what we feel its right
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Does dying still mess with your wax or was it people misunderstanding the mh/oh thing?
I mean my plater track the debuff of MARK
it gives me minus dmg as heroic 610 vs a veteran trinket
but on big pack aoe
i can't see it nicely
can we change color
or something
on the mob who got it
link sim
?
@turbid crest u need to install a mod for plater which changes nameplate color based on what debuuff they have
Idk how to do it
could you ? or its complex
i have something who track
but its tracking even crimson
ect
i just want mark
so i put yellow or something good for my eyes
to see my mark focus when i start to spread aoe dots
tanks chain pulling are giving me ai-ds any advice
question, I'm using whispyrs platers, how do I get friendly nameplates to appear like this in dungeons? Right now I have none even tho they're supposed to be one
should i have a macro
go nelf
!restealth
Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:
- Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
- Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
- Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
- While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
- You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
Ctrl V
Then V
yeah I've tried that 😛
its both tyran and fort genius
on 10+ its fort too
literally no reason to chain pull when mob has 4% hp
y
they do 2 mobs per 2 mobs
then when mobs is 1% hp they chain combat
for 0 reason
it ain't chain pulling if it's all one big pull
?????
???
xddd
+2 simulator
I think it's clear that chain pulling will make your DPS lower and you're adjusting your talents to adapt to sub optimal play patterns
he dont talk about dps
he talk about silence 6 s with garrot
on pulls can help
a lot
not evey1 use kicks/stuns ect
so garrot make it easier for big keys
if you're in a big key
make mobs afk for 6s
i'm so confused
a dangerous group is ahead
and your tank doesnt care about an AoE silence
thats on your tank
if you're in a big key, your tank is probably not chain pulling and people are kicking/stunning
if you're not in a big key, who cares
If you're having trouble with kicks in a dungeon then you're taking an intentional DPS loss to try and compensate for bad play from your teammates, I can understand the rationale and if it gets you through keys fine
bro
ITS PUG
ITS FIRST WEEK
not every1 haver a team
to do +9
ppl are pugging 8-9-10
If you're pugging it might be a social issue >_>
you can't kicks for ur mates
social issue ?
yeah ok im out
#podcast
#social
got u
i feel im in a wowhead comment sec for a sec lol
#french #herbie
section*
am i drunk or
are we using resounding clarity now in M+?
podcast means we have access to RH podcast pings
yes
Altought the podcast itself hasnt been a thing for quite some months now i believe
yes
That's just bad tanking and has very little to do with restealths
You can steal the mod from whispyrs plater and use it for yours
Can even change the colours
but like.. that's not a thing
Don't really get the point of this whole discussion. It's not like people here can change how tanks behave in pugs.
@turbid crest
the fact u didnt know it was fort makes me believe u havent done past a +5
pretty icornic manes
thanks , thats the whispyr one ?
yes
The only thing that this exchange proves is that @grave trail is pretty toxic lmao
how? this guy is talking non sense
hey, i hav a question, should i Garrote many targets i can or i just garrote/rupture 3 targets wich gona spread
Y'all had breakfast already?
Usually we garr garr ruptu ruptu
in a pack
so you spread 5garr and 5 rupt
if you need even more silences you have like 2 more globals to do so
A muffin and some chia pudding, you? 😁
just gonna ignore jc and manes and move on
orange juice, ham/cheese sandwich and finalized with a coffee
tell your therapist your problems
i just opened my eyes
I wish i could help you there, but i legit use the whole plater profile from whispyr. You can ask him help when he's around or Lisonna
i really need to
i was doing m+ and couldn’t see my energy bar or combo points
still came out on top 🤷🏼♂️
like you should
same as mine
We couldn't clear princess because we legit lack numbers
we have way too many people at 590 doing 400k dps
mmmh i tried hc princess as well, it was tough
we got her to 40%
oh yeah that’s a long way to go yet
How bad is it to craft a weapon with runed crests? Not expecting to get gilded crests anytime soon
we havent attempted anything past the 4th boss yet. lastw eek i think we got 4/8H on 2nd night
i went in a pug and we wiped on 10%
only 2 night a week raiding
i wanna join a guild but my work schedule just doesn’t allow guild raiding
If you think you cant get another dagger drop soon, it isnt bad
Im really not sure, doing 5-8 keys atm, maybe i just wait
I just cannot imagine why and how people are out here trying to pug keys as a DPS, I've always had a tank or healer alt if I was trying to do something like that. That's why people have guilds, no?
as rogue u can only play as dps
sooo doing +8 key will reward 619 gear from hero track and +9 rewards 619 gear from myth track?

!up
I mean from the vault
in AoE pulls
you JUST FoK
9 is 619, 10 is start of mythic track vault
and press mutilate once for caustic
Idk if i'm a fan of the recent changes
only 7+ are worth doing
anything below is trash
but then we remember delves 8 exist
616 for almost free
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in s4?
well but you always exclusively wanted to do stuff that rewards hero track at the end of the dungeon
everything below always was trash
which is what doing "7+" is
i havent tried anything more then 2-3s atm... im still learning assassination and making mistakes
im just farming 8s and doing some occasional 10s if something rolls a decent key
done with my myth track vault already aswell
Am I right that indiscriminate carnage has some form of smart logic and will spread Rupture to un-ruptured mobs specifically?
if there is one, yes
Well that's rad.
I assumed so going by the guide + my own eyes but it never hurts to double check.
you you garrote/rupture the same target 3 times you spread a total of 3+2+2
because 1 is always being reapplied to the main target
Makes sense
If I open this log and you have a silent stilleto equipped
I’m throwing you in the sea
oh bby 🙂
Ok good. Well someone else can help more cuz I’m in the car on the way to the airport lol
And I don’t wanna mess with mobile
safe trip!
It means there’s only going to be one caustic spatter
If you mutilate another target the caustic on your first target goes away

sudden demise on nexus princess is crazy work
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Should i be taking a whole new talent set up? for all bosses or just switch sudden demise for Arterial precision?
like if you look at your talents in that situation right, it's like so many of them are completely dead right
you never cast CT, but it's talented etc
there's 1 target so what is indiscriminate carnage doing for you
whats CT i was a paladin main for so long but wantted to switch to rogue this exp 😦
oh. I only use that for 3+ targets bc a guide told me to. I can start using that more if it will help
well, that's the thing, in single target you'd talent out of those
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because you can pick up really nice stuff on the left side of the tree
gotchya!
i'd recommend grabbing whatever talent build's recommended for the bosses etc
is there a good source for that WoWhead only seems to have 3 and they are m_ and raid
you guys think Etheral Cloak is worth it on a boss like Nexus Princess?
raid single target would be what you played for a single target boss like nexus princess yeah
^that's the best way to do it
guys, i think im like the worst assa player. averging about 500k dps with ilvl 603 on a target dummy (but with the typical m+ build). that seems sooooo low. targetdummy says i should be doing 571k.
are these numbers normal?
When opening with aoe do you tab to another target to apply garrote and rupture or just spread it off the same one you opened on
theoretically, you can evasion for the 20% magic dmg DR
with bait and switch
i can't imagine long cloak would feel much better unless you're like getting ignored by your healers during intermission idk
u can but itll spread 1 less then if u tabbed... but then u have to change back to deathsmark/caustic target
yeah im wondering if 7 seconds of no damage is more worth than 10 seconds of 20% magic + 12 seconds of feint
u just like me fr
well it's like 7 vs 5 right
is the issue
the scenario where i think like maybe 7s cloak would be good, good might be a bit strong of a word here, is like maybe if someone cleaved you with a blaze in intermission you might cover another one of them or something?
alright blaze lines come out every 4 seconds
so you always cover 2 with cloak, never manage to get 3 with long cloak
unlucky
How would i sim Radiance vs Depths enchant in dungeons ? Just dungeon slice ?
https://i.imgur.com/SfVahiU.png wait actually i'm not sure if we're really bad or if they don't fire together in heroic (and i assume mythic) 
tbh i think like if you think it might be better give it a try and if you notice that you like it better just go with it 
also if you're bad like i am and forget you can evasion then it's probably better
Love to see it keep blasting
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We still using wax for raid?
what did you change or focus on if you don’t mind me asking ?
spreaded more bleeds
pressed CT more
made sure to make use of the buff carrying over
hmm, when do you actually pop the darkest night
to apply the mark
do you env before ct or after
like im assuming its something like garrotes ruptures muti foks and then do you like ct there
after if you can afford it
if you are gonna lose the buff while spreading bleeds then use it before
yeh
otherwise it's really doomed
i guess the smaller the pack the faster you can go
global wise
Btw, if you can't get stealth for a pull whats the opener like for packs
Alright
assuming i should prio ruptures first right
probably but im a blue name so dont listen to me
do you spread garrotes outside of stealth
I tried to check the pins, but is the incredibly annoying "lose all poisons when you enter and exit a dungeon" back? Is there something I can do to avoid it?
i havent encountered anything like that
in timewalking dungeons I noticed that happening, but not in current content
Also ik people say pre stealth isnt that big, its a shock because of how strong it feels
2x dawnthread is really adding up ? I just got my 2nd, and I don't see the second bonus of crit
hey guys, any addon wich i can see this proc better?
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idk about the other ones, but ik that one does
but you open with ambush -> garrote -> rupture -> rupture and then? I was wondering if caustic splatter has prio or CT? and do you press CT more than once i. the same pack even after the first one ?
2x dawnthread is really adding up ? I just got my 2nd, and I don't see the second bonus of crit
pretty sure you want to mut into FoK into CT
i think
but im just a red name
so take it with a grain of salt
!dawnthread
Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.
But yea, is it worth for the tank to let me get stealth between pulls
IK the whole stealth thing says no but it feels like it cucks my dmg
guys what u guys do on a boss fight like mist or last boss of siege ?
do you guys just hold gcds or smth to line up darkest night so you won't lose death stalker ?
i mean, you shouldnt lose it ever
because you get darkest night if the target dies
especially in siege
boss doesn't die until fight is over
Any Tipps for single target in m+? My DMG feels really lackluster without CD's 😦
but if u have mark on boss and it goes into phase u can lose mark
unless u finish on boss
no mist first boss
when u're targetting the tree
oh
when the tree falls and he's casting on boss
i lose my mark
unless i have vanish
which is a problem anyway i think ?
yeah i make sure to keep darkest night for Ingra
and on siege, u have to stay for your team
to get into next tentacle
i'll lose my darkest night proc anyway
with siege its easier because eveyrhting you target dies
i don't have anything to hit lol
well your groups arent fast enough with cannon then'
and you shouldnt be staying as a group, all of you should be pre positioning on the next platform
you're a rogue you should do the canno
except the guy doing cannon
also that
you should be
and you can step to the tentacles
to make sure you keep mark up
like the way it should go is healer should be on planks halfway and cleanse you if you're getting in (dependent on timers) and then if you get it after firing you can cloak, or you can run into range to be cleansed
and everyone else should already be on the next platform
dont understand where this you go as a group came from
Should try to have it up, should have all cds for ingra expose phase
probably rupture > CT
because rupture gives you energy
you dont want to CT into fok into stare at screen for 5 seconds
Should we be outperforming theoretically outlaws in m+?
how do I apply garrote and rupture to more than 10 targets?
tab
what is this called and how do i hide them, damn
bars
10t is wild
in elvui settings
where are you pulling 10t worth full bleeding
stonevault whole corridor with lust?
on putting the key in?
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