assassination

[keen spruce]

how u so fast

tf

I was zooming to that screen

[wanton mortar]

only one of them was suposed to pi me, now they fucked my log nice haha

anyways its normal, was just curious, ty for help

[south lava]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[chilly mist]

Is it worth sending the remaining Gilded on a 2nd craft?

[waxen crescent]

Is it worth to craft 619 ilvler dagger?

[chilly mist]

Actually thought hc crests were at 626.... all my plans are ruined

[unkempt flame]

I'm currently playing assa in m+ with deathstalker. But since the pulls get chained so fast and the affix keeps me in combat for 15years, I often loose either darkest night or can't apply death mark /can't open from stealth to spread my bleeds. One way would be to talent into two charges off vanish. But the talent builds on wow head stick to echoing reprimand. Anyone having the same problem?

[scenic jetty]

echoing is bait

go x2 vanish

[zinc frost]

How is it bait?

[brittle quail]

echoing is sick now that its fixed

but if your tank chain too much vanish can be real good aswell

[unkempt flame]

I agree That echoing is good, but for me it kinda prevents me to play the death mark

[eager bloom]

if you are pulling so fast you should be able to re-apply DS with DN envenoms

[inland escarp]

huh

[unkempt flame]

That's the problem. From the initial DM I often don't get the DN buff. So it drops and I can't reapply it

[inland escarp]

ER should be helping with that

[unkempt flame]

If I would get the DN buff, yes.

[inland escarp]

its giving you 3 finishers

If youre not getting darkest night why not play fatebound?

DN is the whole point of the spec

[unkempt flame]

Because I don't really like fate bound 😅 I know that DN is the point of the spec. I just don't know why it drops mid pulls. I know how it works, but sometimes I just don't get the buff.

[inland escarp]

Are you swapping targets and letting it time out?

[unkempt flame]

I apply dots on the opener and then occasionally swap targets to keep at least five ruptures going. But I swap back to my main target after.

The target died with DM on it

[eager bloom]

thats fine i guess

[inland escarp]

if it dies with mark, you just need to drop a max envenom to transfer it

[spiral escarp]

Try to stick to one target until you get the DN buff.
You can use mouse over macro to spread your garrotes/ruptures to avoid tab targeting and getting lost which your DM target is.
If that is not something you are comfortable with, from what I have read/heard. You can just spam all your garrotes and ruptures to your main target. It is less optimal, but much easier to play out and in tge end could be dps gain as you will play your DM/DN better.

Once you have DN buff you are free to mark a new target so you can spread some ruptures if you need to.

[brisk plank]

what key levels did you time on avg?

[unkempt flame]

I'll have to try out mouse over macros. Do you know any good weak auras for DM tracking? Like. Something that jumps into my face when my selected target has DM

[eager bloom]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[whole sand]

7/8s

[gentle apex]

Can someone review a log and see what's gating me off an orange parse? Is there any snapshotting in assassination?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/26Npt1jWaZXgARFb#fight=31&type=damage-done&source=2

[gusty stag]

Whats your mastery %?

[gentle apex]

34%

[keen spruce]

that is not a relevant question

and no there's not snapshotting anymore

[gusty stag]

It is when his average envenom hit is low..

[keen spruce]

this is one reason

[whole sand]

[keen spruce]

these things are stinky

giga stinky

[balmy condor]

holy hell my eyes

[whole sand]

brother went to the store and got scammed

no refunds

[gusty stag]

You casted 37 envenom in 4:41.. thats one average every 7.6 seconds.

Zikli casted one every 4.6 seconds on the same fight on heroic.

So you might be wasting alot of combopoints?

[balmy condor]

I envy hellen keller sometimes seeing screenshots like that

[keen spruce]

this probably not great

[whole sand]

[balmy condor]

true

it is not

it is very bad in fact

[gusty stag]

def not for assas

outlaw maybe 😄

[gentle apex]

Would I take a 2m on use for DM?

[balmy condor]

yes

[gentle apex]

Also is there any snapshotting at all?

[balmy condor]

no

[whole sand]

we've solved the case holmes

[gusty stag]

No snap but you could be overwriting your garrote, it seems low as well.

If you do vanish garrote and then shortly after normal garrote, then you cooking youself

[whole sand]

he's not taken imp garrote

[keen spruce]

this is going to do very bad things

to your damage

[balmy condor]

that's fine

[keen spruce]

ripping DM, KB, trinket, pot

then not attacking

[whole sand]

no i know, i just mean the vanish garrote thing

[keen spruce]

for 6 seconds

[whole sand]

im guessing he got mechanic'd

[balmy condor]

don't run aoe talent on sikran

[keen spruce]

I mean it's 18 seconds into a sikran fight

[gentle apex]

That was mechanics I was getting ready for ghost placement

[keen spruce]

idk what bosses do imma be honest

[balmy condor]

yeah sikran timing

is insanely aids

[dusty zenith]

Any one running ct for heroic ovi?

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

it's one of those accelerate opener things

[mint valve]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds

[whole sand]

ye this is a go next

(that's phase blades)

[gentle apex]

Lol our tanks are learning they're not the subject here

[balmy condor]

it's basically gnarlroot timing needed for accelerating, except it doesn't fuck you over 2 minutes in, it fucks you over 15 seconds in, 45 seconds in, 1 minute in, 1:30 in, 2 min in

[keen spruce]

I mean considering you're running a cleave talent, giga dogwater weapons, a pvp trinket, and not attacking during your burst

[drifting hare]

is it better to use shiv the last 7 - 8 seconds of kingbane when having one charge skilled or right after?

[keen spruce]

an 82 parse is pretty gud

[whole sand]

yeah i was gonna say

[dusty zenith]

I believe use shiv last 8 seconds

[whole sand]

you're doing the right things

just with the wrong tools

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1286610089192456232/image.png?ex=66ee8885&is=66ed3705&hm=0af0c5ac94244ac4b7082d5df930868db8d22cc73a6b8eff2212d776c8422759&

[gentle apex]

I have a story about that

[whole sand]

im not sure my heart can take it

[gentle apex]

That was during our first tier clear and our BS wanted to craft weapons for people so I let him make mine, gassed him up for it

[gusty stag]

Its fine now you can upgrade other daggers free

[balmy condor]

I've seen so many people craft it I'm actually just slamming edits into the gear page on wowhead right now everywhere and praying people read it

[gusty stag]

Just get a few from m+

[balmy condor]

not kidding btw

[whole sand]

[gusty stag]

"Do not fucking craft this" 😄

"Upon crafting this weapon you will receive a 10% direct nerf to all abilities"

[gentle apex]

I mean at least ||it's not using a crafted spark on the warrior you planned on playing on a charged hexsword which while pretty gives intellect||

So I mean I'm just not great with crafting sparks lol

[south lava]

whats our preferable tier set slot

[normal mist]

Ilvl

[south lava]

head/ shoulder/ leg / hand?

[whole sand]

its fine like they're terrible but you'll live

[normal mist]

Doesn matter

[indigo elk]

Hello, https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kPbxLthnqrdGw37B#fight=1 while we are at it any kind souls able to critic where did I go wrong so I can improve my dps

[normal mist]

Just get 4

[whole sand]

they aren't going to really fuck your logs up as much as the pvp trinket is doing imo

its just a waste of sparks/crests

[gusty stag]

uhm.. Where's your garrote? 😄

[earnest remnant]

we should tell that to nibren

he forgot

[gentle apex]

You need to keep garrote more

[gusty stag]

No no.. There's no garrote at all 😄

[indigo elk]

Yikes okay means I might have misunderstood, thought we weren't meant to garrote without imp garrote

[whole sand]

nop

all the time

[wild nest]

needs to be up nearly 100%

[whole sand]

garrote/rupture = 100%

[gentle apex]

You just duplicate it with deathmark with vanish, otherwise you should spend your procs and keep uptime as much as possible

[wild nest]

use vanish to to get the +garrote

[gusty stag]

I mean it's your entire premise for deathmark

[whole sand]

you will have more energy and be happy

[balmy condor]

and then I reorganized the table

so it defaults to this warning

[indigo elk]

Okay fked up bad, might explain why I'm so er starved, so generally we would vanish and then garrote into DM ?

[balmy condor]

and then I added big fuck off red text

[earnest remnant]

[balmy condor]

praying to god that it saves someone

[gusty stag]

I say it's still lacking a "fucking" somewhere

[wild nest]

ive already seen peeps goin straight for the 636 dagger with sparks is that smart or nah

[gusty stag]

;D

[whole sand]

whispyr you have unfortunately not saved misericorde as he was unaware of pressing garrote

[balmy condor]

yes

[whole sand]

back to the typewriter with you

[balmy condor]

[wild nest]

kk good to know thanks 🙂

[gusty stag]

Whats the price for 636 craft?

[balmy condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1286084799160651776/image.png?ex=66edf0ce&is=66ec9f4e&hm=aa2d27221c9a0033b3d38e97da31de72f7ab27d3a95e48b1e7edac007fa1b85b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=810&height=172

[gusty stag]

hahaha

Thats perfect man

[normal mist]

Leave it like that

Please

People must know

[whole sand]

will the bosses be mad

[balmy condor]

yes

meme only

[normal kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/oops-yikes-awkward-jennifer-lawrence-gif-9504720997818108080

Should we craft Stiletto?

[royal lantern]

no, it doesnt even suck you off

[gusty stag]

I mean if they get that far, that they are check out Stiletto for a rogue craft, they kinda expose themselves

[royal lantern]

only your HP

[gusty stag]

Id say leaving it puts them in dilemma ;D

[whole sand]

whispyr was paid off by big Crafting to hide this information from us

[indigo elk]

Thanks for the critic everyone appreciate the help

[whole sand]

go pump king

you got this

[wild nest]

bleed on baby

[gentle apex]

|| I even spec'd into leech to offset the self damage ||

[kind forge]

did you guys tell him to vanish garrote without improved garrote ?

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/galaxy-brain-gif-62870316450580206

[gusty stag]

Miseri a good tip is you can sim your char on a dummy 1 target and check the split on the abilities, uptime and stuff, then you can give it a go at the dummy until you get the priority down.

No we just told him to garrote lol

He didnt use garrote at all ^^

[gentle apex]

How to get Blizzard to buff siphoning stilettos

[gusty stag]

Atleast you can disenchant them

[worldly nebula]

Is there a weakaura or something where you can check if people in your raid group have loot-id? i know liquid has sth like that in their splits

prob only if the other people have that weakaura right?

[gusty stag]

loot-id?

[gentle apex]

MRT let's you identify your raid for fixable gear

[worldly nebula]

if they killed the boss that weak already = loot-id

[gusty stag]

never heard that term. we always say loot locked

[worldly nebula]

maybe its german thing

[gusty stag]

Could be.. But yes there's addons for that 🙂

and weak auras too

the one JC gave you works fine, but theres like a gazillion

[worldly nebula]

how does it work in mrt

[balmy condor]

yeah so is meucheln and hinterhalt and that's why no one will ever take germany seriously

oh the mob is enraged? lemme just tückische klinge

[worldly nebula]

kekw

[gentle apex]

I open MRT for the raid inspect tab and enchant people's gear during the break

[clever sapphire]

he wants to know if people killed a boss already im pretty sure

not if they have gear enchanted

[worldly nebula]

exactly

[keen spruce]

I'm kinda craving a waffle

[gentle apex]

Oh you could individually achievement compare but that's aids

[gusty stag]

DBM has a feature or had, dont use it anymore so not sure if its still there

You could click a person and request loot data

[clever sapphire]

what if its the 2nd week and they got the kill 1 week before?

or do achievements track amount of kills

[keen spruce]

doesn't MRT have all of this?

[ancient kraken]

What’s roughly the difference between focus lense and ascen in ST?

[clever sapphire]

i dunno man i only have mrt installed because raidleads said so

[gentle apex]

Oh like their lockout! I'll check

[balmy condor]

0.3% per lens

[cunning needle]

did you see the boomkin icyveins guide saying to craft the 2h agi staff?

[balmy condor]

[gentle apex]

Try /dbm lockouts @clever sapphire

[whole sand]

its just trying to tell them to switch to feral

[gusty stag]

@balmy condor Do you do alot of m+?

[balmy condor]

god I hope I won't

[gentle apex]

I thought our m+ rotation was fun

[keen spruce]

whispyr kill boss and write guide

no mini games

[balmy condor]

it is very fun

the spec is great

the content is not

[oak eagle]

has anyone encountered a bug with carnage where rupture wont get spread?

[balmy condor]

m+ is soul draining misery

[oak eagle]

or am i just imagining that

[balmy condor]

where waht exactly

[keen spruce]

i leik it

[hybrid aurora]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

rupture? won't get spread?

[worldly nebula]

i use bigwigs :/

[oak eagle]

yeah

[balmy condor]

[oak eagle]

i might just be imagining things

[gentle apex]

Not anymore c:

[balmy condor]

maybe range?

[oak eagle]

and carnage just fell off

but i dont think so

[whole sand]

i've never had it

[oak eagle]

because its happened right after i double garrote to spread it with 4 seconds on carnage left

[balmy condor]

hm

strange

[clever sapphire]

did by any chance you spread rupture when the affix spawned and it spread to the affix?

[turbid crest]

Heya thats my overall on NW 6

what do you think about ?

what shouldve looks ?

[worldly nebula]

are you sure that tracks from people in your raid?

[balmy condor]

needs more caustic/envenom probably

[worldly nebula]

i feel like that is just not possible

[balmy condor]

rest looks okay

[golden loom]

Something I have been wondering about, when playing deathstalker without improved garrote, there is no need to vanish in the rotation right? or is there something I am forgetting

[balmy condor]

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[balmy condor]

TLDR is yes vanish is used

but you're still right

because it's bugged

[golden loom]

oh yeah right

[balmy condor]

so no you wouldn't vanish

[golden loom]

👍

[oak eagle]

oh is that a bug?

i thought that was an intended thing now

[balmy condor]

no

[abstract parrot]

Do u recomend use Hekill? @balmy condor

[turbid crest]

Whispyr , its my overall have to look like that ?

on M+

[oak eagle]

he already mentioned something about it

look up just a little bit

[balmy condor]

I recommend uninstalling it, throwing it in the trash, and forgetting it exists

dogshit

awful

terrible

[whole sand]

[balmy condor]

piece of absolute trash

[abstract parrot]

kekw xD

[clever sapphire]

ignore what styler said inbetween

[turbid crest]

ho yeah

ty

[clever sapphire]

whispyr replied to you there

[oak eagle]

i use it for alts while im leveling but then turn it off after that and read wowhead guides and watch videos

[turbid crest]

bcs i didnt finish key

i miss 2 boss

then they leave

so thats why envenom

low

[wild nest]

why is it so bad?

[balmy condor]

hekili and pawn have caused irreparable damage to the community

[whole sand]

hey that's my line

[clever sapphire]

you are looking at your screen whilst leveling? must be hard

[oak eagle]

nah not most of the time

[earnest remnant]

forgot to add me to that list

[oak eagle]

just when i pull like 70 things

so i can actually kill them

and then i go back to watching whatever show im watching

[clever sapphire]

ah ye thats not a rogue moment

[slate robin]

My Caustic is way higher than this now. And Crimson isn't top 3

[balmy condor]

cause fights are not target dummies and hekili is not human

[clever sapphire]

so i wouldnt know

[balmy condor]

also it fucking sucks for rogue in general

[gentle apex]

How do we get WoWAnalyzer to support assassination

[wild nest]

I use it and have 95+ parses x)

[balmy condor]

good for fucking you bud

[oak eagle]

if you didnt use it, youll have 99s

[balmy condor]

it's open source, go code it :)

[abstract parrot]

and do u have pawn profile? @balmy condor

[oak eagle]

!profiles

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

I'm about to ban your ass

3 inches away

[oak eagle]

uh oh

[whole sand]

wait wait hang on

[oak eagle]

hiya is mad

[whole sand]

maybe he last played in like

15 years ago

[whole sand]

raidbots, sim

[balmy condor]

I mean it's either that

or just blatant trolling

[oak eagle]

oh he said pawn

i thought

he said plater

like a dummy

[abstract parrot]

yes pawn

[balmy condor]

like just brash and unapologetic trolling

[clever sapphire]

i also read plater

my brain refused to read that as pawn

[oak eagle]

same

lmao

[whole sand]

[worldly nebula]

i use and have 99s (:

[oak eagle]

if you didnt youd have r1 parses

[clever sapphire]

are you guys talking about normal logs?

[earnest remnant]

i dont use and have 100s

[oak eagle]

see

[indigo mulch]

[oak eagle]

stealthi gets it

[clever sapphire]

normal logs you can get an 80 without a screen

[oak eagle]

also yeah who gaf about normal

parse in mythic

[abstract parrot]

I don't know is pawn is usles or not long time ago i don't play WoW i just to slect which item is more better for the class

[oak eagle]

im only worried about my normal parses atm so i can sell the raid

[balmy condor]

pawn is complete misinformation

[oak eagle]

simming is your friend

not pawn

raidbots.com

[clever sapphire]

who is simming

[oak eagle]

is your friend

[clever sapphire]

why did i not meet him yet

[oak eagle]

only a select few know him

ive only ever heard of him

never met the guy

[abstract parrot]

ok

I wil try

[whole sand]

good luck

[oak eagle]

youll

[clever sapphire]

also just take ilvl until you are max gear

[oak eagle]

also want to get the simulationcraft addon

[cunning needle]

is this simming in the room with you right now?

[oak eagle]

no like i said

ive never met him before

only heard of him

[whole sand]

anyway all this talk about hekili who uses

in here

i know one of you must do

[balmy condor]

[cunning needle]

12 million??????

[oak eagle]

bruh

[indigo mulch]

[balmy prism]

people will do anything to not have to learn their class lul

[oak eagle]

i used to use that

back in bfa

[clever sapphire]

all those fury warriors and ret palas and bm hunters i bet

[oak eagle]

when i was 14

and dog at the game

[wild nest]

I use that and hekili and it takes up the whole screen

[oak eagle]

and had no idea that

[indigo mulch]

You were 14 in bfa? Holy shit i'm old 😦

[oak eagle]

wowhead or guides were even a thing

yeah i just turned 20 on monday

[cunning needle]

true ret pala can just put any button in front of you

and you'll do good damage

[oak eagle]

now feel real old

[cunning needle]

i pressed divine storm 8x in a row

fun rotation

[indigo mulch]

[balmy condor]

please more addons so I don't have to play the game I pay for please please please pleasepleasepleaseplease I DO NOT WANT TO THINK PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE JUST TELL ME THE BUTTONS I DO NOT WANT TO PLAY I JUST WANT TO SPEND MONEY SEEING MY SCREEN LIGHT UP I BEG OF YOU MAKE IT SO

[clever sapphire]

i think whispyr had a rough day/night/timelapse whatever whilst i was sleeping

[oak eagle]

^

whispyr show us on the doll where they hurt you

[pliant falcon]

Is it worth to craft an asscension 619 dagger and recraft one of my Dawnthread lining? Cuz i have the 2 dawnthread thingies for 1,5k crit rn and dont know if ascension+ double effect is better

[balmy condor]

this chat makes me lose hope in society

[indigo mulch]

[clever sapphire]

sim it

is probably the best answer

[cunning needle]

you still had hope?

[crude sequoia]

dw bro i parse 21.2 and im not even using max dps helper, upcoming legend

[balmy prism]

has anyone else noticed inconsistency on broodkeeper with caustic? It seems 50/50 whether adds directly under it will get hit or not

[balmy condor]

like if I have a good day, I can count on it being ruined within 5 minutes of opening this channel

[clever sapphire]

i lost that yesterday when i saw half the m+ groups wanting an aug for +2s

[oak eagle]

ez fix, just dont open the channel

screw all the people that have questions

they can figure it out themselves

[balmy condor]

that's like letting your dog shit on the carpet and walking through it

[oak eagle]

LMAO

[clever sapphire]

wait isnt that the norm?...

[potent raven]

is transmitter bis for sin too

[crude sequoia]

just don’t get a carpet fr

[potent raven]

i bet u know @clever sapphire

[oak eagle]

sim it

[clever sapphire]

nah i dont care about gear at all

i take what i get

[potent raven]

bro said sim it

[clever sapphire]

also i dont want to play a minigame mid fight unless its a 10% increase

[indigo mulch]

Its like an abusive relationship, he just have to come back because maybe he can change you, you know? Even if hes getting mentally abused.

[balmy condor]

I can fix ravenholdt

[sharp echo]

!snap

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of snapshotting

Bleeds update their tick rate dynamically, which means that if you get a haste proc (which increases our tick rate) from somewhere during the encounter (ie. Power Infusion), the bleeds would automatically tick faster, but the second your haste goes back to normal, the tick rate goes back down as well.

Snapshotting refers to getting that haste proc, reapplying bleeds at the faster tick rate, but instead of the bleeds going back to a slower tick rate when your haste drops, they would continue ticking at a faster rate until they expire or are reapplied.

[oak eagle]

thats what they all say

[potent raven]

lmao

[indigo mulch]

[potent raven]

didnt ashes give u more agil

but it was decaying

[whole sand]

ravenholdt is already being fixed, by MaxDps Rotation Helper ™️

[potent raven]

what a trinket

[clever sapphire]

i macrod ashes to dm and forgot i had it equipped

i couldnt care less tbh

[potent raven]

such a dumb trinket

transmitter

[crude sequoia]

just keep bleeds up

[balmy condor]

they have tattoos (pawn) and piercings (hekili) and massive daddy issues (idolizing the first m+ streamer they can find) but that's what makes them so hot

[indigo mulch]

roflmao

[potent raven]

thats zerocool

[balmy condor]

I like them broken and lacking a sense of self

[oak eagle]

LMAOOOOOOOO true (jpctheman_ is my king)

[golden loom]

they also ghost you often (double vanish)

[whole sand]

remember 'link top m+ streamer man' day

that was fun

[clever sapphire]

wasnt that yesterday

[crude sequoia]

what’s wrong with tattoos :(

[pliant falcon]

huuuuge upgrade

[gentle apex]

Trust me when I say the masses like us are stupid, but our end goals aren't usually perfection just an endless journey in the hope to be slightly less stupid

[clever sapphire]

ye wouldnt do it

[balmy condor]

being stupid is perfectly fine if trying to be less stupid is the goal

sometimes I open the chat and it's just stupid to be stupid

and that's when I really just want to tie my headphone cable around my neck

[subtle field]

sorry to bother you, but could you tell me which script / mod i'd have to copy from your plater, to get the "only relevant debuffs" i.e garrote rupture, on the enemy nameplate?

[pliant falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-hanging-kill-gif-13667568

[clever sapphire]

you see thats why wireless is goated, cant tie what you dont have

[balmy condor]

that's not a script it's just baseline debuff tracking in plater

[abstract parrot]

I put 3 trinquest if i have this image this trinquest is the worst?

[balmy condor]

it's in the option panel

[gentle apex]

Like those daggers were more about giving my crafter friend a way to feel pride about spending a literal 2 weeks jerking off over the auction house

[subtle field]

ah okay, ty

[potent raven]

Trinquet

[balmy condor]

yes

[abstract parrot]

Ok thanks

[balmy condor]

and honestly, I would have chuckled if it was my first time seeing it this week

but it was like

the 5th time seeing it today

[royal lantern]

blacksmithing for me was losing gold so i can craft weapons for raidmates, cus GL trying to get gold out of the Bot spamm in tradechat

[balmy condor]

and the humor is lost on me after seeing like 3 dozen rogues so far posting their stilettos

[royal lantern]

the only prof gold i make rn is crafting R3 radiant power every 12hours

[crude sequoia]

hmm

i just fly around and mine

15k in 1 hour last night

[west cove]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[whole sand]

that's not even a ring enchant

[indigo elk]

Thanks for this! Will do

[royal lantern]

gonna be honest, i also SOMEWHAT blame blizz for the embelishment system beeing a bit confusing sometimes

i dont even know if the game tells you "you can only have 2 embelishments"

[whole sand]

crafting sucks

[balmy condor]

???????

[whole sand]

delete professions

[wild nest]

it does right on the gear lol

[balmy condor]

it's on the item

[pliant falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

[clever sapphire]

you guys can read?

[wild nest]

no i use hekili for that too

[clever sapphire]

i just look at the pretty pictures

[abstract parrot]

Stats is good? or i need improve mastery?

[whole sand]

where do i put the embellishments in my pawn string????

[clever sapphire]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[royal lantern]

that small "embelishment (2)" could really be replaced with something more telling

[crude sequoia]

press buttons, see numbers and do transmog, that’s what it’s all about

[royal lantern]

just stack mastery bro, pawn said the ring with 20more mastery is a 8% upgrade

[oak eagle]

or you could just open your eyes just a bit more

[balmy condor]

secondary stats don't matter much, we just sim

[crude sequoia]

ok i’m very new but i also know pawn isn’t a reliable source

[balmy condor]

top gear is our friend

[wild nest]

only ilvl matters anymore smh

remember 2004 guys

[whole sand]

we made a robot that does stats for us

and then we put it on a website

[crude sequoia]

i’m using chatgpt to decide my top items

[abstract parrot]

I trying to understand how is going xd

[balmy condor]

it's thinking

[whole sand]

is there a good raidbots guide that doesn't begin with 'whats up guys' and 'lets get right into it' to link

[balmy condor]

!simguide

[prisma monolith]

Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights

For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.

[whole sand]

we have some fucking arcane commands in here

i swear there's something for everything

[balmy condor]

well

when you're a class discord

you get the same 5-6 question

on repeat

forever

you learn to make some commands

[gusty stag]

Did it tell you to use 2, 2handed swords, since they have better dps? 😛

[abstract parrot]

Thank u @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

np

[cunning needle]

!dn

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies with a max cp envenom and will be the majority of your applications
• Consuming a Darkest Night proc when a target has 1 stack of the mark will not give you a mark back
  Echoing Reprimand....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
• Yes, you still want to finish on your animacharged combo points
  "it's not a bug"*
• Yes it is.

[crisp pine]

Sometimes you also get a new question that's really really stupid tho

[balmy condor]

oh this is old now

cause they fixed it

[crude sequoia]

yeah fan of knives and swords all the way

[balmy condor]

I GET TO DELETE A COMMAND

[cunning needle]

slacking

[balmy condor]

beautiful days

[subtle tundra]

what about the fact that you dont get DN when you kill some bosses

[whole sand]

[subtle tundra]

in m+

[clever sapphire]

you get it when you KILL it

[balmy condor]

!update

[prisma monolith]

Updated.

[balmy condor]

!dn

incredible

[clever sapphire]

but if they decide to just feck away you dont get it

ha

[gusty stag]

I mean im m+ you restealth so many times anyway

[cunning needle]

what about when you press garrote as your first button in the opener instead of ambush 🙃

[subtle tundra]

the bosses in arakara

[whole sand]

moroes never lets you down

[subtle tundra]

you kill

[clever sapphire]

ah i dont touch that dungeon, i despise the first boss

[gusty stag]

Well thats a you problem ;D

[cunning needle]

🐒

[subtle tundra]

what, its literally a training dummy

if you said last boss yea

[whole sand]

flip coin

[clever sapphire]

ye my groups dont like killing the adds

[wide hawk]

it's a me problem too 🙃

[royal lantern]

commands replaced the good old

[clever sapphire]

so i have depleted that like 10 times already at first boss

so i just gave up

[balmy condor]

yeah this is why people take double vanish if you can believe it

but then they forget again and garrote in opener a second time, and then they don't have a vanish, because they don't understand that "+1 charge" does not mean "infinite casts"

and then they don't do damage

[royal lantern]

bro you dont get it

[cunning needle]

i was a bit tempted to take double vanish

[subtle tundra]

i saw imexile play double vanish, is it that good?

[royal lantern]

+1 charge means i can use vanish FOR UTILITY

(use it badly 1x more often)

[whole sand]

double vanish over coin hurts me

[balmy condor]

ye ye ofc

[arctic tusk]

in ST do you always ambush after ur vanish

and imp garrote within the 6 seconds

[balmy condor]

I love the timeline of "we don't take iron wire cause it's not useful and we can take +1% dps instead" followed by "we take double vanish for the damage" followed by "well yeah it's not for the damage, it's for iron wire obviously since it's so good"

m+ community is full of smart cookies

[neat shell]

In add fights for example first boss sin looks terrible generally rogue looks terrible while other classes do st as u maybe more and burst adds more than u. @balmy condor do u think we get buff

SADGE

[whole sand]

but i need double vanish to ironwire my xally orbs

[crisp shard]

I've always creamed over iron wire from when I used to pvp

such a damn good talent

[balmy condor]

yeah

that's what I also said

like 15 months ago

and then m+ players were like "eh..... maybe.... idk.... I don't wanna give up damage"

[crisp shard]

it's like OP and I'm surprised it's still in the game good

[balmy condor]

and now when I argue that double vanish is not good damage

they go "YEAH BUT IRON WIRE MAN ITS SO BROKEN OP BUSTED YOU DONT GET IT"

[umbral pike]

Whispyr

Contact wowanalyzer and take over, the other guy hasnt updated smh

[balmy condor]

editing in a ping doesn't ping btw, but no

[crisp shard]

double vanish made sense with master assassin, but not anymore

[balmy condor]

I'd hope we get a ST buff

aoe is fine

[copper shore]

seems like a recurring subject

[gusty stag]

Im pretty sure that was for the silence on casting mobs in that fight.

[subtle tundra]

im pretty sure im talking about m+

[neat shell]

Oke noted .i hope too

[balmy condor]

yeah so about that, I did help topple with wowanalyzer stuff in the past and it's a lot of fucking work for free and for time that is not present for me or topple

so

you're free to take over if you'd like

[umbral pike]

bro Im bad

[balmy condor]

but hell to the nah from me dawg

coding that shit is miserable

[sterile violet]

I c you’re a lost ark player

[umbral pike]

was, I was bad there too

[serene wyvern]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[sterile violet]

Oh did u atleast beat thaemine

[crisp shard]

coding is only fun if you are invested in the project, anytime else it's agony

[royal lantern]

donr forget 3months ago: dropping iron wire for 0,2% more sim dmg is giga worth it

[balmy condor]

I was invested in the project

and it was still agony

[umbral pike]

nah I quit right as it came out and was still proggin other stuff

[crisp shard]

what language model does it use?

[arctic tusk]

what makes racials better from tier to tier

dps wise

not defensive

[sterile violet]

Yeah u did good i beat thaemine then i peaced out whole trancendense stuff with elixir got too much

[arctic tusk]

why is mechagnome all fo a sudden everyons bis dps

[whole sand]

you don't need pants on them

[balmy condor]

typescript mostly

some javascript

[royal lantern]

cus they updated the numbers for TWW and the numbers are high for it

[balmy condor]

I think the engine is raw javascript

but everything else floats on typescript

[arctic tusk]

i thought it was just percents

[balmy condor]

and just kinda interfaces smile

[royal lantern]

most ye, mechagnome is flat mainstat

[dense pine]

Hi guys at how many targets do we use CT

[static geyser]

is master assassin ever kinda worth over iron wire?

[whole sand]

and the cycle begins again

[balmy condor]

in what content

[balmy condor]

2

[static geyser]

m+

[balmy condor]

no

:)

[dense pine]

Grazie

[balmy condor]

iron wire is the strongest m+ utility in the game

you'd be an idiot to drop it

[crisp shard]

oh yeah, I'm not into that web stuff

[normal kindle]

ChatGPT conclusion about Syphoning Stiletto :
The Siphoning Stiletto is an excellent weapon for an Assassination Rogue, given its high agility, beneficial secondary stats, and unique damage-dealing effect. It should serve well in both solo and group content, provided the random nature of its special effect aligns with your combat strategy. If you have the opportunity to acquire or craft this dagger, it would likely be a significant upgrade and a worthwhile investment for your character. LAWL

[hearty plover]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[balmy condor]

[normal kindle]

hahaha

[gentle apex]

The only solution is to convince Blizzard to buff it

Turn it into the new shadowlands cracked item that every rogue has to get

[clever sapphire]

how about no

[gentle apex]

Like that one pair what was it

[clever sapphire]

the less stuff i have to craft the happyer i am

[normal kindle]

THe more stuff i have to craft the happier i am

PS i have the plan on my crafter so i just dont care

[crisp shard]

with crafting can't you mostly just buy wow gold and get it?

oh that's right, you need the crests too

[gentle apex]

ebin

[clever sapphire]

just buy m+ boosts easy

[crisp shard]

I have no friends, buying a boost is just how I get into groups tbh

[clever sapphire]

funnily enough, i have had some people buy a boost and tell me they actually just wanted competent people in the group to do the key

[crisp shard]

makes sense, it's annoying to make it through all the stupid requirements in group finder to find one of the other dps in full greens getting boosted by his friends and chads who que up

[queen egret]

When you say "Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one" are you refering to a getting a myth track dagger? I assume dagger would always be the 636 dagger should always be the choice if we dont have a myth track one?

^even if you have a HC dagger its still a significant gain to get the crafted dagger

[balmy condor]

yes

but it's kinda generic because there's people that probably won't see myth daggers for another month

same thing but down a level

if you have a champ, crafting hero

etc

[static geyser]

why does my spell opacity setting reset

[crude sequoia]

make that the whole expansion for casual gamers like me

[boreal peak]

does anyone know with dragon tempered blades, how do i know which poison was effectively the 2nd poison applied that operates at 30% less effeciency?

[sick pewter]

!wr

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[royal lantern]

not not what DtB does

its just

you can apply 2lethal and 2non-lethal poison, and your poision application chance is reduced by 30%

[balmy condor]

You are the life blood of the game god bless

[boreal peak]

oh. well how do i know which of the 2 poisons the 2nd one would be? like if i apply deadly poison and then amplifying poison, then deadly poison again to refresh is, which is the one that has 30% less application chance?

[balmy condor]

All of them

[golden loom]

all poisons are 30% less

[velvet hornet]

quick question about the tiersetbonus:
the 4pc says you need gar, rup AND crimson up for the 10% buff. now how is this in ST-fights?

[gentle apex]

No

[balmy condor]

It actually says gar rup and crimson tempest are 10% stronger

[gentle apex]

They do 10% more not you need all 3 to do more damage

[balmy condor]

Has nothing to do with them being up

[boreal peak]

oh i guess it doesn't read that way.

[velvet hornet]

oooh i see, misread that

ty

[crude sequoia]

i’m trying 🤷🏼‍♂️

[balmy condor]

Yeah, the “they have 30% less application chance” is a “weapon poisons” they, not “additional poison” they

[gentle apex]

Where do y'all learn assassination pvp

[balmy condor]

#pvp

[blazing pumice]

is it worth reapplying a full duration rupture on a low hp mob with sudden demise?

[crisp pine]

In the trenches

[orchid wind]

yo , i think people might've asked this a lot, but i just got shard of azzinoth, is it any good ? simming it atm

[abstract parrot]

i add u frined @wild nest if ucan accept me one second, thanks

[balmy condor]

No

Sudden demise is inefficient damage by definition

[balmy condor]

No

[wild nest]

why? lol

[boreal peak]

oh ok thank you!

[abstract parrot]

to ask one quesiton in dm xD

Because i can't send u dm

[gentle apex]

My cat just bit through my keyboard wire, how do I stop them from being homophobic

[balmy condor]

Baptize them in your bathtub

[crisp shard]

it might be easier to get another keyboard, cats aren't trainable

[drifting basin]

its not bad actually

thought the uptime would be lower in keys

i usually have around 80% in +9s

[cunning needle]

im dumb can you explain why?

because doesnt it apply all its damage?

[brisk plank]

can we safely macro thistle tea with kingsbane and have it separately also for when its needed?

[spice surge]

66% of its damage

Not all of it

[balmy condor]

150 bleed damage is 100 sudden demise damage

So you apply a 1.5mil rupture

And only get 1 mil out of it

That’s bad

[cunning needle]

right

[cedar hare]

So spyglass needs to be rly high ilvl for it to br good?

[cunning needle]

thanks

[glass raptor]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds

[cedar hare]

I can make a 616 spyglass. But it sims wors then my 606 trinkets

[spice surge]

Tea isnt used together with kingsbane really, so wouldnt recommend

Or rather, not at the same global

[amber brook]

How easy is it to break the ascendent shield?

[balmy condor]

The what

Like the intermission add on ansurek?

[static geyser]

this stats okay at 605?

[balmy condor]

Yep

[crisp pine]

Need nore avoidance

[normal mist]

Real answer: Whispyr would have said yep to any stats you'd have

[warped belfry]

Need more leechs

[static geyser]

figured it hahaha

[balmy condor]

Yep

[midnight mist]

I hope i get assassinationned in my sleep no cap

[normal mist]

Just get ilvl z don't worry too much

[hoary remnant]

Need more leech for Heal logs. You can literally play assassination with full sub versa mastery gear and be fine. That's what both my rogue mate and I did on rashanan.
Whisper was always right!

[normal mist]

That was dark

[balmy condor]

I know the French have a bunch of letters they don’t pronounce but turning assassinated into assassinationned is crazy

[midnight mist]

i tought it sounded better

[crisp pine]

How does that sound better

[balmy condor]

2020 ass meme

[midnight mist]

?

dont be racist please

[cunning needle]

my memes are all old and crusty

[midnight mist]

!

[royal lantern]

ermeuchelt is better ngl

[midnight mist]

wtf is ermeuchelt

[balmy condor]

Where’s the voice memo of me drunkenly stumbling over your name

[balmy condor]

Garroted

[midnight mist]

garroted is better

L for the deutshland persons

i assume its deutsh

dutch

german

whatever

halp

[royal lantern]

for some reason, Assassination Rogue in German is called Meuchel Schurke

and Meuchel is more or less Garrote

yes

weird

still better then dispatch beeing called "Killing"

[midnight mist]

I knew it actually

angela meuchel or whatever

[balmy condor]

Meuchel = assassination
Meucheln = garrote

German wow

Very good

Very logic

[midnight mist]

yuge

[normal kindle]

FREUUUU LEINNNNNE Yaaaa

[glossy grove]

Erdrosseln is garrote

[balmy condor]

Oh

True

What’s mut

Verstummeln?

[cunning needle]

cant find it

should have saved

[glossy grove]

Verstümmeln

[balmy condor]

Cursed

[glossy grove]

😄

[balmy condor]

Burn it

[crisp pine]

I like how it has a built in smiley face

ü

[royal lantern]

:3

[balmy condor]

I did a coaching session in German one time cause I was like yeah I speak German should be fine

[royal lantern]

"wtf is headbut?"

[balmy condor]

And they asked me “wann ziehe ich denn die klinge”

And it took me like 3 minutes of talking to figure out he’s talking about shiv

I quickly realized I was fully cooked

German wow terms are unusable

I do not understand how anyone plays with a German client

[cunning needle]

[royal lantern]

DIE KLINGE

[crisp pine]

Hell yea

[royal lantern]

[clear nexus]

Nyanpasu!

[cunning needle]

wtf does that acutal translate into

[balmy condor]

Even reading the tooltip it’s so insanely cringe

[crisp pine]

Me when I bann alle Wutzustände

[balmy condor]

Like treacherous blade

[brisk plank]

What is the optimal tea usage in cd windows?

[royal lantern]

you use tea with shiv is if results in you getting all the energy from it

[glossy grove]

Tückische klinge

😄

[balmy condor]

It’s so verbose

[royal lantern]

only exception is on boss pulls with 3 stacks where you use it regardless of energy once to get the CD running

[balmy condor]

All the German tooltips sound like they were written by ChatGPT using the biggest words possible for any given translation

[royal lantern]

yes

[cunning needle]

isn't that just german in general

why say one word when you can say many word

[royal lantern]

its peak "lol german words so long lol" shit

[cunning needle]

its free real estate

[royal lantern]

yes no

in theory yes

[cunning needle]

[royal lantern]

in reality nobody talks/writes like that

[balmy condor]

I don’t know any mfer that says “gewährt 1 combopunkt”

[cunning needle]

yessnt

[balmy condor]

Like you can just say generiert

It’s a closer translation anyway

Honestly might be Google going nuts

I did some German localizations for an addon

And the translations they had were equally verbose

[raven panther]

How are we suppose to use Bubbling wax with mana oil ? I feel I have a bug everytime I use those, I have to use 2 bubling wax and 1 mana oil to get them on my two weapon, I have to 'bubbling wax -> mana oil (on first weapon again) -> bubbling wax (on the second on this time'.

[royal lantern]

wait 3-4 seconds before applyin things to offhand

[raven panther]

I it's the same if I start with mana oil I use 2 mana oil

[royal lantern]

cus blizz coding is horrible for that

and they dont let use chose where we want it

[amber brook]

For the M+ affix

[arctic socket]

Missing leech

[slate bolt]

!up

[prisma monolith]

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[grim jay]

1 is einen because numbers from 1 to 12 are supposed to be written out in german

[floral herald]

Guys small question, for craft, if i understand correctly, banding will x2 your other effect.

Is it possible so to craft this week a dagger with ascension and other item with dawnthread and next week craft banding to be perfect with 3 items for switch (banding will work with dawnthread and make it x2 as if we had 2 items with DT? ) ?

I do essentially mm+, but I have a 590 dagger and already clear hm for this week and i cry hard.

[grim jay]

well why shouldnt it be

the world is your oyster

the mainhand will be more of an upgrade than 1x thread on a low budget item

for sure

[floral herald]

Perfect, prefer ask before do smth wrong as all this thing are new for me (not play DF)

Thank you 🙏🏻

[grim jay]

the question is

if you really wanna craft ascension on the dagger

if you plan on recrafting next week anyways

because the items to craft weapons rn arent cheap

a full craft is like 100k

so the recraft prolly isnt cheap either

[floral herald]

I plan have 1 dagger with ascension, 1 item with thread, and 1 item with banding, to be good in m+ and raid with bis and upgrade these item

So and have a other dagger in future for m+ (if it work like this 😅)

[grim jay]

just craft 2x thread and you are more than fine

on 80% uptime the threads are as good as ascension

so at most they should be slightly worse in ST and decently better in multitarget

as much as the low gains of embellishments even amount to

[brisk plank]

huh, and if i would overcap energy even by little is it not worth using each time for mastery gain?

[pulsar apex]

As a casual Delver / M+ er.. bracers and belt still the best thread crafts?

[spice surge]

Correct, the main value lies in the energy

[woven shore]

Imagine you are in raid "princess"

Do 964k dps and then you wipe 18%

And next pull you kill with 820k dps logs

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[wide aurora]

Heyo, in mythic plus scenarios on big packs. Do you send mutilate on prio target + envenom and let it cleave with caustic or do you fan of knives for more combo points to send envenom into main target

[arctic socket]

Shoulda played better

[woven shore]

Yesterday on Princess we dropped the set from princess

• tier set crazy

[arctic socket]

You want to spread garrote + rupture then fok into a ct then press multi on prio and let splatter PUMP

[oak eagle]

^ that

[arctic socket]

Press multj to keep up splatter, spam fok if there’s 3+ while sending envenoms

[arctic socket]

Did you get a any of it though

[bronze echo]

can someone tell me how much % increase 4p is for sub and assa?

[wide aurora]

ait ye was unsure if that was the play or if you continue to fan for envenom spam on prio target. then mutilate spam is better

[woven shore]

I always open with
Garrot , garrot ( on multi target )
Rapture , Rapture ( if more than 3 ) ER , CT , garrot on prio target for silence
Muti on prio for splatter - envenom

[arctic socket]

3% total

Idk for sub

[arctic socket]

Multi spam is better if there’s only like two targets, if there’s 3+ use fok

Even with a prio

[woven shore]

Someone in my guild said Sub 7%

[blissful terrace]

Hey guys, hope u can help. I have a macro that works for other players but doesn't work for me. what could be the reason? It always stops on a specific spell.

[kind forge]

[normal mist]

Not enough info

[kind forge]

oh i thought there will be a follow up

ya we need more info

[blissful terrace]

wich one? the spell the whole macro?

as i said, i gave it to one of my friends and he can use it perfectly while mine is stopping Kingsbane

[raven panther]

but just send it, how can we help you ? "I have a problem, how can I resolve it please" would be exactly the same

[kind forge]

anything really

[errant night]

guys hello, can anyone explain to me what does one thing mean? i want to go to Ovinax in heroic and people in raid are talking about 344, 433, 443 and so on. what's this about? i think it's related to order in which to destroy eggs. but how do i 'decipher' these numbers? there was nothing similar in normal (which i completed)

[cyan mist]

Why is the optimal talent tree build around the ST spec + Splatter instead of an Indiscriminate Carnage variant ?

a lot of the add phases feel bad when not being able to spread garrote / Rupture efficently ?

[orchid wind]

do you guys shiv on Amarth (2nd boss of NW ) when he rages ?

if KB is getting rdy soon (17s ish )

[tough basalt]

If it’s not a damage loss

[kind forge]

because you would need to vanish for IC

[orchid wind]

it's a damage loss, that answered my question

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-hungry-feed-me-ah-starving-gif-16592150

[kind forge]

most of the time you just spatter on those

[cyan mist]

y including without a trace ofc otherwise it would be pointless

[tough basalt]

Realistically I’m doing 3rd damage so yeah I do use it to sooth if there’s not a Druid or hunter

[kind forge]

because without a trace is not good there

[cyan mist]

ok thanks

how do you approach the council fight when playing ST with splatter

[marble cradle]

dots on both targets and u do normal st damage

[cyan mist]

k

and juggle Deathstalker's Mark

[blissful terrace]

/castsequence reset=9 Garrote, Echoing Reprimand, Rupture, Slice and Dice, Garrote, Mutilate, Mutilate, Envenom, Deathmark, Shiv, Kingsbane, Thistle Tea

[marble cradle]

oh no

[normal mist]

Oh no

[kind forge]

oh boy

[grim jay]

oh no

[stark kraken]

This guy uses pawn too for sure

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[raven sonnet]

This is the reason rogues have a bad reputation, using macros with 100abilities in them

[grim jay]

yeah no

[blissful terrace]

thats all i got

[boreal glacier]

what are the best gems to put into neck/rings ? Agi + crit% and all different colors ?

[golden loom]

sure you dont want some more spells in that macro?

[blissful terrace]

some dump answers

[grim jay]

its dumb to use castsequences

tbf

[marble cradle]

u wanna play with one button what u expected?

[limber lion]

multj is my favorite ability

[acoustic pendant]

where can i find weakauras ?

[kind forge]

is it short for multijuice ?

[blissful terrace]

i play with an opener where is the problem in that

[zealous tundra]

yo, can anyone guide me to proper rotation for assasination, as well as help with some stat priority? kinda not sure what is wrong as stamina ends quickly, sometimes when solo targetting

[limber lion]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[acoustic pendant]

tyvm

[limber lion]

np

[normal mist]

Addressing the problem:
Don't use cast sequence my man, that's like your whole opener pressing one Button, this isn't wotlk anymore D:

[limber lion]

Stamina, you mean energy?

And secondly stat priority does not matter, just get high ilvl

[normal mist]

It isn't even the correct opener

[limber lion]

Guides are here

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[blissful terrace]

Yea its ok i got yall keymaster. But my question is not what u using or not

[normal mist]

Keymaster doesn't translate to skill

[blissful terrace]

im asking why my macro is stopping at a specific spell

[limber lion]

Put a higher reset value on it

reset=45

[raven sonnet]

Clearly not working since even blizzard realise that u shouldnt use a opener macro

[blissful terrace]

doenst solve the problem

[limber lion]

or better yet reset=120 as you have Deathmark there

Do you have ER talented?

[odd thunder]

Swapping to fatebound from deathstalker for raid as it sims higher for that.

How does Fatebound perform in M+? still better?

[kind forge]

Do you have Thistle Tea talented

[limber lion]

Deathstalker better in m+

[limber lion]

it's the last one on the list, so doesn't really matter in terms of the macro working or not

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[odd thunder]

i thought so

[kind forge]

i assumed as he said it stops with kingsbane

so that just that would be missing

my bad

[raven sonnet]

Maybe equip a dagger would help

[limber lion]

Having 2 daggers to use Mutilate does help yes

[raven sonnet]

Then go to a target dummy and learn the rotation + opener i promise it Will do more good Than solving ur macro problems

[cinder steppe]

is this good for a boralus 5? trying some assa keys coming from outlaw xD

[limber lion]

Hard to say

You beat your team so you're doing good

Really just depends on how big the pulls are and how fast you're clearing the dungeon and so on

[cinder steppe]

yeah we did 26 minutes +2 but the pulls were kinda chill, like 5 max i think

[crisp pine]

Damn, TWW doesn't even have a Family Battler achievement
Why even bother honestly

[limber lion]

This is the +2 key that I did in Grim Batol, but I'm like 570 ilvl.

As long as you beat the other 2 dps, you're chilling

big number or smol number, doesn't matter

[marble cradle]

yea it all depends to ur group tbf

[cinder steppe]

true that hahaha

[ocean ferry]

is there a minimum haste we should have? or just sim it?

[limber lion]

No

[ocean ferry]

im at 1% 😄

[limber lion]

Minimum haste is 0%

You're already above the minimum then!

[marble cradle]

what was command was it stats?

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[limber lion]

Tha'ts the one

[zealous tundra]

can you teach me sensei?

[broken stump]

In AOE, am I right in thinking that you’d only ever use Envenom on your target with Caustic Spatter on?

[normal mist]

Correct

[broken stump]

Thinking about whether I could macro Mut and set focus together, then just have envenom macroed to only ever send on @focus - then I can tab target for garrote and rupture to my hearts content without losing my spatter target - not sure if that sounds like a terrible idea or not

[normal mist]

I mean if you're manually spreading ruptures/garrote you will eventually mutilate a target and apply spatter

[broken stump]

Would you not be using fan of knives instead of mut for generating points?

[normal mist]

Yeah but casting 1 mutilate isn't the end of the world

[limber lion]

Yes but you use mutilate once to apply spatter

[prisma laurel]

why is regicide the bis? what does "nothing personal" mean? is it a passive

[normal mist]

It's not

It's just big ilvl

That's it

[marble cradle]

other than getting from vault its the highest possible wep

[normal mist]

Bis list = random bullshit go at the highest Ilvl possible

[wicked dagger]

I assume they simmed and regi at the highest ilvl sims best