assassination

[wraith arrow]

just another question

[brazen jacinth]

mmm literally simed like 1k more dps than radiant.

[wraith arrow]

can i switch the bottem smaller row on top of the bigger

[brazen jacinth]

think ill stick with radiants for now

[indigo mulch]

So close ;o ._."

[wraith arrow]

from ascended to discended

[slate crown]

Possibly, you'd have to modify the grow code, right now I manually position everything specifically to resize the second row

ah yeah that works

If you want to flip it to the top, there's a -1 you can just change to 1

which puts the bottom on top

[wraith arrow]

in group settings? of core?

[slate crown]

Yes, in the Group tab of the Core groups, expand the custom grow

[wraith arrow]

yeah found it and it worked

[slate crown]

simple as

just need to do it for the other specs too, sub and otl

the grow code is copied between them, unfortunately

[wraith arrow]

i tryed it at the top first in rowdata, now it works 😄

ty ty

[slate crown]

If I were to make this actually configurable it would either be at the top not buried at the bottom

or better yet a config option

but config options at the group level don't exist for the group, only at the individual aura level

I could make it work but it's spindly

[wraith arrow]

the "base" of your wa is so nice and so much work ty for that 🙂

[slate crown]

Thanks

[winged basin]

75 minutes in a GB, some may ask, was it worth it?

[gilded oasis]

@balmy condor did you get rid of your special char in name in game?

[autumn peak]

which weapon embelish the best for assa?

nvm found it

[pure moth]

Atleast you were awarded with it. Grats! Not sure it was worth your sanity though.

[pliant remnant]

Not Hero track, not worth it

Get back in there

[pure moth]

^ didn't catch that. Changed my mind. Not worth 😂

[gilded oasis]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[balmy condor]

I server transferred for it yes

[gilded oasis]

based

[fluid pumice]

obligatory dumbass question on the day from me, we're running ER capstone at all times now, right?

[balmy condor]

yes

[fluid pumice]

I also did for my name, worth the xfer

[crisp shard]

which gem are we looking for? I can't seem to find it on wowhead

[gilded oasis]

I just stalk people with my name and buy it from them. its worked 3/3 times

[blazing jewel]

selling Scana-stormrage for 30 gold

[gilded oasis]

sold

[blazing jewel]

Scanatwo is 31g

[shut owl]

did ER -deathstalker interaction get buffed again ? I know they fixed it for "using a charged CP counts for a mark charge" but I could have sworn it wouldn't count for "full cp envenom" to give us darkest night

[crisp shard]

I just did a mythic with it and it worked for me

makes deathstalker alot more fun imo

[shut owl]

yeah; thats what I was shook by; it was definitely not popping darkest for me on tuesday in raid lol.

popped in and noticed it happening on trash. big excite

[indigo mulch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/e4GoWcUaiCFpa3AUhZVKJS why is tiny toxic and imp ambush so stronk? D:

[honest pelican]

what ilvl did yall solo t8 bountiful just fine? where you stopped having to really worry

i actually havent done it since the changes solo on my rogue, and he was way lower ilvl then so im jsut curious

[crisp shard]

I feel comfortable on my rogue that's 580 ilvl as long as I don't treat it like a heroic dungeon

I did all 4 bountifuls today starting at 575 ilvl

[shut owl]

If you can manage to bait bran into throwing pots early its chill

[brazen jacinth]

i was doing them at 580. the only troublesome one is waterworks imo

only one i group up for

[tranquil trout]

has anyone solo'd that final tier Zekvir delve as rogue? was it it rough?

[crisp shard]

The udnerkeep last boss got me messed up

died like 3 times because my dmg is so low

[honest pelican]

gotcha, 574 was the last time idid it pre nerf and it was kinda unbearable. doable but slow

also had a 37 brann so

[cloud basin]

ight so does Shiv buff the Ansurek ring?

[shut owl]

a lvl 25+ bran each potion he throws gives you about 500-600k hp/s potions, so just let the hot coast forever and you can kinda pull until you get 100-0'd 😛

[cyan summit]

lets gooooo

[balmy condor]

items and spec mechanics are water and oil

they do not mix

[calm nymph]

any idea how i can improve?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rVaGywtYzLBm8hgM#type=damage-done&fight=last&source=65

[cloud basin]

and im assuming the proc chance is on a timer or something?

[tall cradle]

!craft

[cloud basin]

so we arent doing it alll the time cuz nature damage

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[honest pelican]

what if my mh is a pathetic 593, still craft one?

realistically i think ill do armor first then dagger

[cloud basin]

up to you if you want it tbh

[honest pelican]

im not worried about finding a weapon in m0. even if its like max 616

[calm nymph]

is assa doing better than sub in raid?

[cloud basin]

i went double dawnthread honestly

[balmy condor]

like everything, yes

[honest pelican]

this is what im planning on

i solely do m+ on both toons, so no reason for me to have ascension

[balmy condor]

I don't think there's anything in the game anymore that isn't rppm or huge internal cd

[honest pelican]

im anxious to test out this new queen ring as a rogue though

havent tried it yet

[balmy condor]

what is there to test

it's just damage

[honest pelican]

i want to see how much, 1%? 1.5%?

[winged basin]

simply dont care lmfao, if groups I joined could kill it on 7 then I would, but people are slow

[honest pelican]

especially as an extra poison damage class

[restive falcon]

ive noticed on first 3 parses for 3rd boss on mythic, they tweaked talents a bit, is there a reason?

[cunning needle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[slim hedge]

Anyone experience this odd bug where IC isn't spreading Ruptures?

[restive falcon]

1 is running improved posion, 1 is running no imp gar with sang blades, and 1 is not running VV

[vapid terrace]

I noticed a few times last night echoing reprimand was only giving one boosted CP instead of the three. Was it a UI bug or ?

[slim hedge]

Can confirm it's not that big a deal.

[deft vault]

Can u cloak the pull in on queen? in the first intermission

[balmy condor]

it's like 1% yeah

[slim hedge]

That is likely a UI thing

[zinc frost]

I saw it a few times but also just wasn’t sure it was bad range from IC

[slim hedge]

Oh, I had a whole mists run where I didn't get a single spread rupture. Garrote was fine

Changed specs and the back again, seemed to work but frustrating

[keen spruce]

so fkin close

on tha tpull

[tranquil trout]

i like imp garrote with shrouded suffocation vs VV thats the only reason i ran it there

[indigo mulch]

1.6% ;X

[restive falcon]

yea im looking at you and top 4 and all are just a tiny bit different so was curious why

is it personal preferance i assume?

[tranquil trout]

for me yeah

[restive falcon]

alright ty

[tranquil trout]

im sure one sims better but yeah i like the feel

[inner swift]

how ever kinda sim i do sacbrood wont be in my top gear

kinda interesting

[knotty vapor]

im sad, i just got spyglass and void reaper's sims higher by quite a bit

:c

[inner swift]

its always skyglass + transmitter ( aint got scardyn yet)

[knotty vapor]

I have a veteran skardyn

i assume once I upgrade out of that spyglass will be better

[fluid pumice]

i hate this game. why can i be parried.

[marble bough]

question about off-hand, does the item level matter on it as much as other pieces of gear (upgrade that last) or should I upgrade both weapons first for the biggest gain and use of crests/valorstones?

[fluid pumice]

Offhand damage isn't real

[tall jay]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[marble bough]

ok so it sounds like just avoid OH upgrades, just wanted to make sure

[toxic zephyr]

for court, are we maintaining garrote + rupture on both bosses at all times?

[balmy condor]

yes

[uneven plume]

When you think the next tuning will happen/

[toxic zephyr]

fan of knives instead of mutilate as well?

[tardy terrace]

whats the chance they fix caustic spatter hitbox on 4th boss

its so ass

[fallow canopy]

rashanan radius is so troll for caustic

[calm nymph]

any advice for how to improve? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rVaGywtYzLBm8hgM#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=65

[balmy condor]

probably 0

[sturdy plank]

Hi. Does shadow meld give indiscriminate carnage

[deft vault]

can you just step the pull in on queen ansurek?

[balmy condor]

no

[balmy condor]

yes

[deft vault]

like i can stay on boss get pulled in and instantly step and im good

[cyan dew]

can we cloak queen web pull?

on intermision

[spice surge]

Technically yes, but in my experience the timing required for that is waaay to precise for it to be worth it (you'd need to step immiatedly the pull happens, not like 0.2s after)

You dont have to run all the way out though, but a little bit further to give yourself some more milliseconds of leeway is nice

[winged basin]

am I himothy? 6 NW no weapons used

[spice spire]

Augvoker

[winged basin]

aye ez ez, hes just a really bad devoker

definitely not a aug

[glacial crypt]

lol

[grave trail]

1st boss mythic are we supposed to send cd on adds or hold till phase is over

[cyan dew]

Can u cloak the pull on queen in the first intermission?

[grave trail]

no

[deft vault]

no

[cyan dew]

ty

when do you guys burst then? right after first pull?

[zinc willow]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[grave trail]

i do it on last nova

[wide atlas]

question I just ran a +6 with another sin and we got almost same dps on most pulls

[cyan dew]

and cloak that or stack with group then Shadowstep?

[wide atlas]

What's bugging me is his first is caustic spatter and mine is envenom and caustic is 5th

Why is this

[balmy condor]

you're probably not playing caustic properly

caustic is your big source of AoE after dots are up

you gotta be spamming envenoms/kingsbane into your caustic target

[dusty zenith]

To much fok spam mutilate more

[balmy condor]

what

don't spam mutilate

why would you do that

mutilate just applies it

[dusty zenith]

Why not spatter more target

[spice spire]

That’s not how it works

[zinc frost]

Mutilate once you apply it after bleeds are up

[spice spire]

You mut once

[zinc frost]

Mutilate again to reapply

[spice spire]

And then you can fok or whatever

Yeah what ruptured said

You just wanna maintain spatter

[bitter badger]

fok them up

[spice spire]

I will big dog

Ty

[balmy condor]

"limit 1"

[dusty zenith]

Ahhh

[novel parcel]

I need some very important advice

I keep on (consistently) getting targeted by the first charge on m sikran, completely fucking my opener. Is it worth to just actually suffer and hate life with a scuffed opener or just hold it until after the first charge?

[dusty zenith]

Keep wiping the raid until you don’t get targeted duh

[novel parcel]

I tried I think theyre catching on though

[dusty zenith]

Be more sneaky

Can you shadow step out to someone and shadow step back in quick?

Lose a few seconds at best

[novel parcel]

No :( I cant be near ANYBODY with the charge otherwise we deadge

[dusty zenith]

Well ya ss to someone and run to the side

[maiden plaza]

do we send transmitter on cd or hold 30s for deathmark?

[novel parcel]

I'm still p sure I'd fuck them, they'd get pissy "omg you didnt go to your spot quickly!!! Fuck your damage!!!"

[dusty zenith]

Say fuck your damage then

[balmy condor]

it's a stat on use, would be insane to not cast it with your cooldowns

you'd buff nothing

[sturdy crater]

Does the dagger Worshipers Poniard come from a delve?

[balmy condor]

maybe

[sturdy crater]

I've seen 3 ppl with it.

[maiden plaza]

yes its from delve

[keen spruce]

[autumn peak]

@balmy condor I see on the cheatsheet that now Anub'ikkaj trinket is over Ara-kara egg in mythic+?

[balmy condor]

sure

it's possible

[runic hinge]

Whisp if I ignore my 3,4 anima charged combo points and only use them on darkest night is that fine

[balmy condor]

what

[runic hinge]

I’m sick and ttired of pressing mut on 6

So I save er combo points for only capstone

[crisp shard]

It is indeed painful

[balmy condor]

skill issue

losing damage

do whatever you want

[runic hinge]

I won’t

[crisp shard]

poisoned knife costs less energy and only munches 1 point if it crits

[balmy condor]

it's also a waste of 40 energy

[crisp shard]

it also does not dmg

[gilded oasis]

@balmy condor if I stick my hand in the toaster why does it hurt

[balmy condor]

poisoned knife is the least efficient button you could ever press

[crisp shard]

but what if you are energy capped and at range?

[keen spruce]

shadowstep

[runic hinge]

You probably messed up somewhere else for that to happen

[keen spruce]

that too

it's already jover

[crisp shard]

it's more of a pvp ability

[keen spruce]

if you goofed that much

yeah i mean pvp isn't real. do w/e u want in there

[runic hinge]

You haven’t built up resistances yet. You need to keep doing it until you evolve and it doesn’t hurt anymore.

[crude anvil]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[keen spruce]

like eating spicy food

[hollow river]

[runic hinge]

Ya. It’s just spicy tanlines

[keen flume]

Convinced Skardyns doesnt exist

[keen spruce]

[past bobcat]

fatebound simming higher?

[balmy condor]

made a mistake not slamming energy before leaving

[inner swift]

for me yes on st with or withour caustic

but everybody with logs are doing deathstalker, prob for the prio damage it gives to the boss tho

[zinc frost]

Probably because less rng with deathstalker and better defensives

[jaunty warren]

Is anyone else feeling that hit boxes are off this expansion? I find my toon needs to be almost inside a boss before I can hit it?

[hollow river]

We lost acrobatic strikes

[versed mica]

We lost acrobatic strikes, they changed it from range increase to an auto attack thing

[crisp shard]

How do we get blizzard to change deathstalker's mark to read 5 or more combo points instead of maximum?

[wide atlas]

Why is this

How does caustic spatter works

[spice spire]

no

[balmy condor]

hitting something with caustic spatter applied will cause nature damage you deal to the target to aoe

[sudden brook]

asssassination kingdom

[wide atlas]

ohhh

that is amazing

ohhhh

[spice spire]

guy

we're gonna kiss irl i s2g

[sudden brook]

Wake up to reality

It's sin kingdom

[spice spire]

ope there goes gravity

[dapper fractal]

can i feint the first boss spit? of necro wake?

it just blasts me

70% hop in a 6

HP

[iron lynx]

!spark

[spice spire]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[ashen scroll]

is caustic splatter around you or the target?

[iron valve]

target

[median flicker]

Can you evasion the devour mechanic on last boss

[fleet pagoda]

target. center of it's hitbox specifically i think

[still tree]

one day I will not fuck up and loose my mark in the chaos of NW 3rd boss

probably not today though

[ashen scroll]

yeah, i tried to get caustic to hit the adds on bloodhound but it didnt not work lol

[wooden jasper]

now that mythic is out, are we safe to craft dawnthread lining on bracers/boots?

seeing some other rogues running ascendance on dagger

which option is better? or are they both just close enough

[wooden flare]

I believe ascension is more for raiding, and dawnthread for mythic+, but I don't think there's a huge diff

[hushed elbow]

anyone know how much % 4p is for us?

[balmy condor]

2.4% total

1.2% each bonus

[fluid pumice]

should i be maintaining garrote and rupture on both bosses for court?

[balmy condor]

yes

[fluid pumice]

coool

figured, was making sure

[buoyant steeple]

which emb did u craft guys?

i think the 80% crit is not worth right?

[acoustic roost]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[runic hinge]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[buoyant steeple]

thanks awesome!

[runic hinge]

You’re welcome Tony

[tranquil ravine]

Is the recently buffed Algari alchemy stone trinket worth it? Buffs agility now by around 10k on proc

[balmy condor]

the alch trinket?

[tranquil ravine]

Yea

[dusty zenith]

Bloodmallet has good info

On all trinkets

[tranquil ravine]

Thanks. I’ll check that out

[dusty zenith]

Ur stone all the way on the bottom

[tranquil ravine]

Yea… was thinking too good to be true.

[snow hamlet]

this is old stat value

only proc 1000 agi

Now it fix to 10000 agi

[spring prawn]

so if im not mythic raiding... do i just send a 636 dagger omen crafted?

[graceful bane]

Anyone know how good bubbling wax is as a weapon augment? I assume it isnt better than whetstones but is it better than oils?

[spring prawn]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[balmy condor]

it's on par with whetstones but it's also bugged to shit

[graceful bane]

bugged how so?

like proc rate isnt proper or dam isnt right

[balmy condor]

doesn't work on offhand, doesn't work when you die

hitbox jank cause it's an aoe

[graceful bane]

ah

[balmy condor]

sometimes just breaks in raids

[ornate gate]

So if you die it just breaks?

[graceful bane]

that's interesting

[idle crane]

which is an easier second spec, outlaw or sub?

[upper wraith]

void reapers fist weapon any good for us?

[balmy condor]

you have to re-equip your daggers every time you wipe

[balmy condor]

well considering that equipping a non-dagger makes mutilate unusable :P

gonna say no

[hearty plover]

what is the best craft in now???

[balmy condor]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[pure raptor]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[spring prawn]

wrist/belt

[hearty plover]

ty

[spring prawn]

whats considered a "big" dagger?

[hasty gate]

how exactly does clear the witness work my dmg in that seems low compared to other people

[hearty plover]

if make wrist/belt in m+ and then second craft parts is my lowest parts?

[balmy condor]

myth track

[balmy condor]

you apply a mark either from stealth or from darkest night you get the buff and then the next fan of knives consumes it

[hasty gate]

so then everytime i get that proc i should fan of knives or does it get used another way

[balmy condor]

if you don't run vicious venoms you would fok to consume the buff in single target

[keen spruce]

LETS GOOOO

OVINAX DOWN

https://tenor.com/view/america-patriotic-eagle-usa-patriotism-gif-9438241

[haughty flicker]

dude

that was wild

[hasty gate]

and if i do run vicious venoms what do i do

[soft surge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kXPFWZgdFTqKTNFWQVSmRB did depths get nerfed? radiant power simming weirdly close

[haughty flicker]

that boss is insane

[balmy condor]

you fok on 2 like normal

[haughty flicker]

was afkin in my tw dungeon to watch the kill lmao

[novel star]

no way i go afk one pull to get tea

and i miss the kill

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/130926715772862464/1021565133157314610/esports.gif

[crystal citrus]

First time playing assassination and my ilvl parse is awful. Does anyone have any tips looking at my parse to improve? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/t4yckaJzRjFwDZ7m#type=damage-done&fight=20&source=17

[novel star]

no spatter on ansurek is sus i think

[keen spruce]

[keen spruce]

i feel like u definitely want spatter

there's so many adds on that fight

[novel star]

ya

quaaaake

here quakeypoo

[crystal citrus]

Yeah splatter prob would have been better

[novel star]

log for u quakequake

[haughty flicker]

dude

[keen spruce]

[haughty flicker]

going from a 1 shot boss

to 115 pulls

[novel star]

fuckin whatever man i gotta watch the vod

[haughty flicker]

what a difficulty curve

[balmy condor]

doomed

[haughty flicker]

pog embellishment

[novel star]

be nice

[crystal citrus]

Sims told me that was best lol

[novel star]

AINT

[soft surge]

@balmy condor https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kXPFWZgdFTqKTNFWQVSmRB check pls

[balmy condor]

cause you probably simmed it against nothing

did you compare it to ascension?

[soft surge]

is depths not much diff to radiant?

[crystal citrus]

I did all crafts

[balmy condor]

no

[soft surge]

wth

[balmy condor]

did that sim ascension

[crystal citrus]

Maybe not lol

[balmy condor]

cause simming crafts

is not equal to simming embellishments

[novel star]

yea

[keen spruce]

[novel star]

stiletto just comes with an embellishment by default and not a particularly good one

[balmy condor]

and obviously a dagger with an embellishment will beat a regular unembellished dagger

[crystal citrus]

tragic

oh well lol

[cunning needle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[keen spruce]

That ilvl parse also isn't that tragic

[balmy condor]

stilleto is giga shit

[keen spruce]

just fix embelishments

[novel star]

but that’s likely not the actual issue with ur parse

[keen spruce]

and u probably fine

[novel star]

idk i didn’t look at it

what da %

[keen spruce]

i mean it's 91 -> 54

[crystal citrus]

50ish

[keen spruce]

that could be 1000 different things

but embelishment easy fix

also ilvl parse stinky stat

don't look at it

[crystal citrus]

oh really?

Thought that was the one to look at

[keen spruce]

well like

don't look at either

just review the buttons you press

cuz like

you're 608

so what if some other 608 guy

[crystal citrus]

Yeah that's mostly what I was asking, feel like I'm missing something key

[keen spruce]

has poopy bracers and boots

but has giga weps and trinkets

it's not exactly an even playing field

[haughty flicker]

trinkets

i hate trinkets

[keen spruce]

i mean in this case it led to them finding out that you have goofy embelishments

but in general

just look at the cast time line and make sure you're not making mistakes

and losing uptime

yadda yadda

[crystal citrus]

Is it possible to fix the craft and put a different embelishment on it? Or is it fucked cause I crafted siphoning

[novel star]

can recraft it for like half resources or something

[keen spruce]

well if siphoning stilletto is the actual item

[novel star]

ohh

yeah

[crystal citrus]

it is yeah

[keen spruce]

and it's not an embelishment

then it's probably bricked

[novel star]

stiletto isn’t an embellishment

[crystal citrus]

Rip lol

[novel star]

yeah u gotta go new dagger

[crystal citrus]

too poor for that

oh well

[novel star]

i mean it’s not like

the end of the world

[scenic nacelle]

!flensing

[keen spruce]

just craft the correct one later

doesn't rly matter

[novel star]

isn’t it like 0.2% worse or something

[keen spruce]

you were still pruple parsing

[novel star]

just has the health loss shit which is rip

[idle crane]

Man I CANNOT get the hang of not just running myself dry on energy

[crystal citrus]

I do that often too

[keen spruce]

there is no hang to get

!energy

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[novel star]

yeah you just run out that’s how it be

[keen spruce]

that's just hte spec

[balmy condor]

speccing into assassination should have an in game pop-up saying "this is one of the last remaining specs in the game that isn't faceroll 400 buttons perma"

[novel star]

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/stay-thirsty-my-friends-dosxx-gif-4119374523186772436

[novel star]

i gotta level a faceroll class

thinking ww maybe

[keen spruce]

[idle crane]

ret seems uber faceroll

[whole sand]

fuck i missed their kill

[balmy condor]

95% of specs are uber faceroll

[novel star]

yeah but i don’t wanna play ret man

[keen spruce]

just enjoy the vibes of being out of energy

[novel star]

cool theme garbage actual class

[keen spruce]

[novel star]

yeh

[keen spruce]

you get to take little breaks in the middle of raid fights

so blessed

[novel star]

saw exile clicking to spotify on 2nd monitor while pulling earlier

optimal sin gameplay

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna be honest, if assassination ever sees permanent changes that make it faceroll 65apm perma and energy is deleted from the spec like every other spec has had their resource deleted

I probably quit game

[novel star]

just you wait until they bring back corruptions buddy

120% haste here we come

[vapid geode]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[balmy condor]

8.3 I was very close to just not coming back

[novel star]

LMAO

8.3 is when i first ever played

[indigo totem]

Tempered potions breaking stealth is not a feel good moment

[novel star]

and i’ve always played sin

i picked a rough time

[balmy condor]

Why are you using pots in stealth hello

[keen spruce]

at least it was strong

[novel star]

yeah what’s that about

we pre potting in retail rn?

[keen spruce]

now SL season 1

[indigo totem]

I know, lol

[novel star]

[keen spruce]

that was tough

[whole sand]

i don't like my enemies to know what im sipping

[keen spruce]

spec basically didn't exist

[novel star]

god

[balmy condor]

SL season 1 was just undertuned

But the design was fine

[novel star]

what if they removed snapshotting

[keen spruce]

well yeah

[balmy condor]

8.3 just was miserable design

[keen spruce]

i was talkin about power

from 8.3 to sl s1

[novel star]

i could play feral

if they did

life would be so simple meowing and shit

[keen spruce]

I've tried to feral it up

but too many buttons on drood

[novel star]

you don’t like mashing envenom perma and still being overcapped energy?

[whole sand]

nah if they change sin i retire and go healer or some shit

or tank

[keen spruce]

i'd just play aff

[whole sand]

raid tank

[keen spruce]

far away assas

[novel star]

man

[keen spruce]

well actually I wouldn't

but if I played again i would tho

[novel star]

ct single target with exsanguinate

what a time to be alive

[balmy condor]

10.0 was also a breaking point

There’s some clip of me literally smashing my keyboard screaming because I had 100% uptime on envenom for 8 minutes straight mid raid

[novel star]

lmao

game good

[idle crane]

O_o I just got a champion mad queens mandate from the Do 5 timewalking dungeons weekly

[novel star]

what other specs actually care about base resource like that still

feral and arcane ig

who else

arms?

[balmy condor]

Sitting there slamming an envenom when the previous has 3 seconds remaining over and over and over

I was losing my shit

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

I’m kinda excited for the new twist the knife but I’m also somewhat scared because it’s the gateway to just removing energy and xdd envenom stacks what’s the issue xddd

[cloud basin]

I thought assassination is supposed to be low dps, why am I always top dps in my raid group🤔

[balmy condor]

Rest of your raid sucks

[haughty flicker]

well its mid dps not low

but also your raid sucks yeah

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

Like actually you could be out gearing an arcane mage by 6-7 item level and still have no hope of catching them

[novel star]

can top dps with whatever if ur guildies are mid and ur locked tf in

[balmy condor]

Simply not possible

[unborn narwhal]

btw. any value to aim for regarding envenom uptime? obviously higher == better, but i mean is the difference noticeable a lot between 80% and 90% - assuming KB and other cooldowns are always with the envenom buff

[balmy condor]

Between 80 and 90 not really

Pooling gets you from like 75 to 95

[wooden jasper]

If there are 4 mobs, is it worth double garrote and rupture? to get the dots on that 4th target?

[balmy condor]

And that’s 1.5-2%

[balmy condor]

Yes

[wooden jasper]

ty

[idle crane]

Are rings a crappy spark craft? Mine are siitting at 590 and I have 600+ belt and wrist and a 616 MH

[unborn narwhal]

absolute value or relative to your own?

[cloud basin]

Like we just did heroic sikran, I shouldn't be top dps😂

[novel star]

tell ur raid to lock tf in then

(don’t do this)

[balmy condor]

I have no clue what the difference is

[desert vault]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cloud basin]

It's me and a BM hunter as top dps lol, and I'm typically like 50k over the BM

[balmy condor]

We’re talking about a rogue playing correctly vs not playing correctly

What is absolute value here

[unborn narwhal]

i meant, lets say you play a m+ and all 3 DDs deal around 33.33 of the damage, 2% increase of your 33.33% would push you to 34%

[balmy condor]

Yes, a 2% dps increase

I’m lost

[ashen scroll]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[novel star]

indubitably

[balmy condor]

Idk what the other dps have to do with this

Am I dented

[novel star]

he’s asking like what the total increase to the party’s damage is i think

[balmy condor]

????????

What does party have to do with this

[slate crown]

Same

[novel star]

but that’s super irrelevant when the discussion is about avoiding personal mistakes

[balmy condor]

It’s a rogue optimization

[novel star]

so idk maybe jts not that

[balmy condor]

Personal gameplay

[novel star]

i’m sleepy i don’t know what happens ever even when i’m not sleepy

so what the fuck

[daring hamlet]

is it bad to craft shoulders?

[balmy condor]

Yes

It’s a tier slot, one we like

[daring hamlet]

oh roger that

[unborn narwhal]

my point is, i don't feel like tracking something that gives me a 2% increase compared to other things that could benefit me more

[novel star]

2% personal damage increase is pretty big though

if that’s below ur cutoff to start caring about playing properly then

a lot of things are gonna be below whatever that cutoff is

[balmy condor]

What is the opportunity cost to playing envenom correctly

It’s literally just

Don’t press the button?

[novel star]

nerd words im out

he won

[waxen thunder]

What slot in general do we like the least?

[balmy condor]

Chest

[wintry pagoda]

i hate feet

[novel star]

(not whispyr)

[wintry pagoda]

oh nvm wrong question

[novel star]

i fucking love feet

luv seeing trolls and pandas and worgen with their dogs out for the world 2 see

[keen remnant]

should I renew normal garrote with imp. garrote?

[wintry pagoda]

is there still a problem with deathstalkers mark btw

[novel star]

which one

[wintry pagoda]

i feel like i sometimes dont get the renew buff when swapping off a target with the mark on it just before it dies

[novel star]

there were like 20 problems

[novel star]

dunno mine has been mostly fine with dying mobs i think

[wintry pagoda]

i had a add at bloodbound horror bleed out from like 2% earlier and went back onto boss and i just lost my mark for the rest of the fight cause of that

[arctic socket]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[daring hamlet]

is it worth dropping iron wire for lighweight shiv in the hybrid M+ build?

[wintry pagoda]

iron wire

is worth more than any dps

could ever have in value

[balmy condor]

Is 0.5% dps worth more to you than the strongest m+ utility in the game

[haughty flicker]

obviously

if im not topping meters then why live

[unborn narwhal]

maybe im overthinking it, but i am assuming that in the situation keeping track of a falling off envenom also collides with e.g. forced movement or other external factors

[daring hamlet]

prob not ngl

[balmy condor]

Wouldn’t that overlap regardless of if you’re pooling or not

[wintry pagoda]

just keep track of it whenever u dont have to move, will result in halfof those 2% maybe

[balmy condor]

You just let envenom drop and then do the mechanic and then go back

This is like

Very basic mechanics of the spec

I don’t get the issue

[sudden brook]

I have a few questions

[balmy condor]

Terrifying

[keen spruce]

just think of envenom like garrote or rupture

you wouldn't just garrote on CD

because you might have to refresh it during movement

just play correctly

[wintry pagoda]

but its still just envenom on 5+cp to upkeep

right

[grave blade]

Why no full send envenom every 7 combo points

[sudden brook]

Number 1, why does fatebound sim higher, but not used

[balmy condor]

Chinese logs with flensing knives, guide recommendations, bait and switch, funnel damage,fb is more rng, general apes

[keen spruce]

blaming the chinese

[grave blade]

You heard it. Fatebound for China apes. Ook ook

[keen spruce]

Kyveza looks wild on mythic

[balmy condor]

I mean literally all the Chinese logs are just flensing knives abuse

For like 0.4% or whatever it’s doing

[daring hamlet]

is dslice sgood to sim M+ for assa or is there a better tool

[sudden brook]

what does that mean

[keen spruce]

dslice gud

[marble hemlock]

You don't wanna know

[balmy condor]

If you talent out of bait and switch you get flensing knives back instead of fatal intent

[sudden brook]

I dont understand what flensing knives is

[marble hemlock]

Ah old hero talent they removed and replaced with fatal intent

[grave blade]

y no send envenoms every 7 cp for big dam with DN. am I dumb.

[balmy condor]

What

You have to use a 7cp envenom for darkest night

???????

That’s just how the talent works

Why wouldn’t you

[silk lotus]

Tell me how to do the bug

[runic hinge]

No

[marble hemlock]

Think he means why not do that every envenom

[keen spruce]

step 1: be chinese

[wintry pagoda]

also since when did echoing rep cps count for darkestnight

[silk lotus]

I am Chinese now what

[marble hemlock]

Because darkest night isn't available every envenom

[mint tinsel]

Anyone bored and interested in looking at my logs to give me some tips on where to improve?

[keen spruce]

i didn't think we'd get this far

don't bug aboose

[marble hemlock]

Since the bug was fixed that made it not work correctly as intended

[grave blade]

This

[balmy condor]

Why would you force yourself to 7

Without darkest night

[grave blade]

More cp more dam?

[marble hemlock]

It's not a permanent buff

[unborn narwhal]

hm, alright

[balmy condor]

Yeah and you waste cp and waste mark stacks

[wintry pagoda]

i am aware of that but id specifically like to know the time so i know how long i was actively avoiding them while trying to get mark back up asap

[marble hemlock]

It only happens once every 3 mark advancements

[balmy condor]

Damage is linear with cp

[marble hemlock]

Like a week and a half?

[balmy condor]

You could just use the 2 cp on the next envenom instead

And get more envenoms

[wintry pagoda]

ok so ive been a doodoo for 10days..

[marble hemlock]

Not really

Blizz didn't put it into the hotfix blue notes until this reset

[wintry pagoda]

hate bliz

[grave blade]

Whats the optimal cp usage for envenom when not 7cp'ing DN?

[marble hemlock]

5+

[balmy condor]

All finishers are 5cp or more

You only ever go past 5 in order to use darkest night

[grave blade]

Ok so I'm an idiot and I'm learning.

[unreal mesa]

me too...keep asking questions

[grave blade]

I'm still smarter than fury warrior gamers though. I take some comfort in that.

[marble hemlock]

Well, this is a place for knowledge and shitposting.

[golden roost]

Anyone else going fatebound on court bc it’s easier to target swap? Or am I missing something

[wintry pagoda]

ive lost all respect for frost mages seeing icelance as anything between 50-60% of their dmg breakdown on single target, fury warriors cant be that smoothbrained compared to that

[marble hemlock]

Just a practice thing

[runic hinge]

I got one of those down

[marble hemlock]

On heroic you just start on tanky bug, stick on it for 2 charges, then switch to tall bug, stick on it for 2 dispels, switch back to tanky bug.

[grave blade]

So the only time you want to pop envenoms are to keep up the buff, anything over 5 to contribute towards DN.

So much stuff to track. Especially with random procs of combo points too.

Throw in echoing reprimand

Timing kb/tea/shiv windows etc

[golden roost]

So I have to use my brain. Got it.

[marble hemlock]

Well, if you stopped, youd be dead in a few minutes

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/h3h3-creed-creed-higher-h3creed-tiktok-gif-22604233

[marble hemlock]

It's just a practice thing. Unlike outlaw, assassination isn't very fast paced, you often have a bit of time to react, no button mashing needed

You'll get used to it quickly

Now I want mashed potatoes

[keen spruce]

you wouldn't believe the takes some of us had when we first got here

[marble hemlock]

Some of you still do

[keen spruce]

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/mongy-monke-monge-cute-cleaning-gif-27532745

[keen spruce]

[hallow birch]

any 2's or 3's rogue players on rn?

[rancid spade]

How can you sim embelish on your char?

[runic hinge]

Shmeeps wrong

[balmy condor]

#pvp

[balmy condor]

Top gear add the gear and then hit the +

[rancid spade]

is there a list to add the craftted gear?

[balmy condor]

There’s a search at the top

[keen spruce]

[rancid spade]

thanks

[runic hinge]

Ladies and gentlemen we gottem

[haughty flicker]

exile is getting fucked up on kyveza lmao

that shit hurts

[timber meadow]

you'll be aight, it gets to the point of not thinking about it just gotta play a lot

[novel star]

uncloakable moment

[haughty flicker]

ngl i was struggling in the heroic pug i was doing last night

every time i ran out for the lines i got insanely low

[umbral pike]

would fatebound be better for silken court?

[cobalt sphinx]

kyveza is super fun

[haughty flicker]

i was having fun ye

[candid cove]

can anyone explain to me how tf to play assa in keys it feels like i do no dam on boss and i have no energy

[waxen oyster]

You'll have downtime periods in between cds

[novel star]

no energy on boss is kinda normal

no energy in aoe means you didn’t apply bleeds

[candid cove]

i always have energy in aoe

[novel star]

which you should be doing for the agi buff on 5 ruptures anyway

yeh then it’s normal

[candid cove]

its like st is like i cant do much

[novel star]

yep

you don’t play to mash envenom for instant dmg

you hit envenom for uptime

[umbral pike]

do yall have mouseover macros for rupture and garrote?

[novel star]

when the buff is in pandemic

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[novel star]

other than that it’s just

gonna happen

low energy i mean

[candid cove]

so im new to assa whats envem up time ?

[novel star]

envenom gives you a buff

that increases your poison application chance

only hit a 2nd envenom when that buff is like ~1s duration or less

[candid cove]

gotcha

[novel star]

otherwise you get same amount of casts and just waste half the buff

so less value per energy spent

you mash asf during cds tho

but yeh

[waxen oyster]

just pad your boss dam

with spatter on affix

[novel star]

true and based

did they fix stitchflesh hook hitting the affix

[waxen oyster]

no but i watched the hook hit a warlock pet

[novel star]

lmao

game legit sucks

unlucky

[whole sand]

yeah nw is fucked

i play with a demo lock

[waxen oyster]

I like when

i see 2 purples in the m+ chest box

and one is a warbound ocarina

[novel star]

you get items from ur chests?

[keen spruce]

I never felt like they were THAT important. but probably good to have

[novel star]

i wasted all my luck forever on hero track sac

never getting anything else again

[waxen oyster]

Yeah i get nothing good why

[novel star]

just classic m+ shit

chest sux always

gl in cache pal

[waxen oyster]

I was already 614 from raid

without any keys gear

[whole sand]

im 50 away from 2k rn and its become hell to get rating

[novel star]

my ilvl is so fucking bad

i really need to craft some shit

it’s story mode ansurek for 2x dawnthread time i think

tomorrow

[whole sand]

free 619

[waxen oyster]

got heroic curio+vault+token+catalyst

[whole sand]

do it

[novel star]

no more pvp ascension dagger

[waxen oyster]

so 4 heroic tier items in one go

[whole sand]

that pvp shit was a grift by the pvpers

don't play into it

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[novel star]

i mean it was good for a while

now it’s just in my offhand for no reason tho

[haughty flicker]

im still stuck using it

[novel star]

i have 2 hero daggers

[waxen oyster]

the rings are still good imo

for customization

[haughty flicker]

but also i plan to pvp too for transmog

[waxen oyster]

because like uhh

[haughty flicker]

i might not have bought it if that wasnt the case

[waxen oyster]

im not spending crests upgrading rings past 606

initially

[whole sand]

i'll do anything for ilvl

https://tenor.com/view/meat-loaf-i-wont-do-that-no-refuse-decline-gif-10981983

[waxen oyster]

its weird when you dont need anything from lower keys

but dont have the io to get into 8s outside guild groups

[whole sand]

yeah i felt that in s4 a lot too

[pure field]

do we FoK on 2 target?

[waxen oyster]

at 614 i barely need anything from non champ gear

[whole sand]

i'm only 610 but i'm the same, feels bad

[haughty flicker]

yeah thats how my rogue is atm

[whole sand]

barely halfway through week 1

[haughty flicker]

took a break from shitty pugs to level dev instead

ngl scalecommander goes hard as fuck

[waxen oyster]

I just had irl before raid usually

only did one delve because had a map

and bt tw

[whole sand]

is that the one with the boys

that swoop in

[haughty flicker]

yeah

[waxen oyster]

because guaranteed hero piece

[haughty flicker]

the boys show up

[whole sand]

thats shit so good

[haughty flicker]

plus mass disintegrate and controllable deep breath

its so nice

[waxen oyster]

Then I look at rogue talent trees

flip a coin

[runic hinge]

Flip a coin for 4 minutes and never hit your capstone and about it

[waxen oyster]

dks got a mobility cd

from there hero tree

[whole sand]

lucky coin on first pull and carry through entire dungeon

this week feels extra bad because we are useless on the affix

[median igloo]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[haughty flicker]

belf stonks

the fact that blind only works if you use it on a mob next to the orbs instead of the orb itself is so ass though

[visual vault]

sry if stupid question. how does the cp return work for bonespikes? also does bonespike work with indiscriminate carnage or is it 3 separate casts of ruptures?

[fallen arch]

Ye kinda annoying right

[fallen arch]

Bonespike targets all targets when u have em off cd

So u get 3 extra cps off your first rup with carnage

[visual vault]

thanks for answering

last one. does it stack on single target? like do i get 3 cp back after my 3rd rupture refresh on single target?

[sterile violet]

yoooo is it normal to get zero loot from mythic + even tho am number 1 damage and am the one who used the key ?

like everyone else got loot but me

[haughty flicker]

neither of those things impact who gets loot

[stiff stratus]

yes its normal

[haughty flicker]

just an L

[sterile violet]

[fallen arch]

Yes u fire off a bonespike even if the target already has it

[visual vault]

very helpful. thanks a lot!

[crude anvil]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

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[idle crane]

Man, I love my assasination rogue in m+ but when it comes time to wanna raid I just wanna play one of my other characters lol

[slow tulip]

why is that fam

its so chill

[winged widget]

I'm having a BLAST in both raid and m+. I've been enjoying deathstalker way more than I think I would. something about that big darkesnt night envenom hit just activates my neurons

[slow tulip]

big ass envenom does feel good, but i currently prefer FB so i can focus more on the fight xdd

[marsh stag]

if im 1 cp off my anima charge for DN, am i reapplying garote to hit it?

or is mut and fan the only builders during cds

[royal lantern]

just vanish garrote

[runic hinge]

I just did my first key of the season wanna see details?

[haughty flicker]

im really mad

i just finished leveling dev and its really fun with scalecommander

but i cant play a class i cant transmog

[white pumice]

Do you guys solo delves?

[slow tulip]

i do

[zinc frost]

Yeah - just dodge and cc things and you’ll be good

[royal lantern]

mate

yes

i like devestation gameplay

i like dracthyr as a race

but the entire no transmog thing is enough to never make me play them for more then a 5min "its funny" alt

[haughty flicker]

surely soon

it cant look any worse than tauren transmog does

just do it blozar

[meager coral]

!fuu

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[sterile violet]

play the fatebound build in raid u'll be top 5 and thats a promise

[royal lantern]

that my thing aswell lol

like, worgen/tauren allready have scuffed tmog, the result is people just....not using the bad looking pieces? whats the problem lol

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-gambling-gamble-gambler-gambling-addiction-gif-25801242

[sand dirge]

Is there the following combo points Weakaura?

• No Deathstalker's Mark on the opponent: Color the bar when maximum combo points are reached.
• With Deathstalker's Mark on the opponent: Color the bar when 5 or more combo points are reached.

I just want a better visualisation when to finish.

[normal mist]

@royal lantern

[royal lantern]

tbf

5+ cp is out baseline finisher rule

the only thing you have to track is the capstone

[runic hinge]

damn, DS is simming 7.1% more for me in dslice

that's wild

[slow tulip]

around 6% for me, its expected

and basically no diff in ST with this il tho

[runic hinge]

4.8% in single target

That seems crazy

[slow tulip]

thats my fb vs DS

at 612 il

[runic hinge]

603

[slow tulip]

DS will sim more for basically everyone till like high high IL

[runic hinge]

interesting

[slow tulip]

the lower the IL the better Ds will be

and it will prolly always be better in m+ not only cuz the overall

but prio dmg

which is king

and more defensive

[odd thunder]

Hey guys. Which Sim do you recommend?

[keen spruce]

for what

[odd thunder]

Gear & fatebound vs DS

[keen spruce]

for what content

[odd thunder]

Well ideally both.

Long time wow player but newer to retail so just catching up. I'm doing okay in raid and mythic+ but I feel like I could be doing a lot better for my ilvl

[slow tulip]

!fuu

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[keen spruce]

Top gear patchwerk 5m - compares all of the gear in your bag/vault (if you haven't selected anythign yet). Single target sim
droptimizer patchwerk 5m - looks up drops in dungeons and raid. single target sim

either of those with dungeonslice will give you a better M+ answer

[odd thunder]

Been playing assassination but been kinda bummed at how the spec looks overall vs other classes and even other rogue specs

[arctic tusk]

do you have to keep reapplying wax afte deaths?

[amber brook]

Think its requipping weapons instead

[arctic tusk]

like drag to inventory and drag back

[indigo elk]

Hello, do I make a thread if I wish for people to help me see how I can improve with logs ?

[main hemlock]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[nocturne quail]

ik tier lists are whatever, but Dorki spreading misinfo about sin rogue for real

said need restealths, and the damage is pad

[spark pulsar]

Hi, should I update champion gear or farm hero and invest stones in it? I struggle, I'd say I need to but it's annoying

[winged widget]

i only suffer with re-stealth when my mark bugs out and I need to reapply it. but it's kinda chill saving vanish in keys for it so far.

[balmy condor]

hero

[balmy condor]

Highly rated m+ player DorkiBear spreading misinformation?

no way

on my internet?

[nocturne quail]

oN mY InTeRneT ??? type beat

im tryna fight the community perception man

[balmy condor]

I've been trying for 6 years

feels like I have gotten exactly nowhere

[nocturne quail]

every key i blast i tell them to tell everyone "invite all ass rogues"

sin**

[keen spruce]

what did the bear say

[balmy condor]

restealth cope

[nocturne quail]

yup and calling the damage pad

thats whay gets me, oh and saying ST is bad

[balmy condor]

that doesn't even make sense

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

I mean the ST is bad on bosses

[indigo elk]

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[balmy condor]

that one is accruate

[nocturne quail]

which fair enough about ST, but bring any other mob and it immediately is good

and high keys you often often bring adds onto bosses

[halcyon hamlet]

fuckin 600 ilvl resto shammy healed through a 9 necrotic

[keen spruce]

oh i found the video

to be fair

he put assas in A

and said it has good funnel

and that it had bad ST

and like the majority of assas players still think restealths are important

so I woudn't expect a bear to know

better

[nocturne quail]

yeah "low A"

idk i played a lot of sin, frost, and enha on beta. And Sin can pump as much as any of them

[indigo elk]

Hello sorry, how do I initiate the process for anybody here to help go through my logs to see what I need to improve?

[keen spruce]

I mean low A seems reasonable

[wanton mortar]

i got 2 pi on a fight and this shows on logs, did i got something else or why does this happen? shame cuz it was a really good log

[keen spruce]

it was a good log cuz you got 2 pis

[sterile violet]

again i go mythic +4 i use the key i drop 2.26 billion damage number 1 and i get nothing at the end

[keen spruce]

which is also why it was invalidated

[sterile violet]

is my game bugged thier is NOWAY MAN

[wanton mortar]

but i mean most top logs are with pi

[inland escarp]

Gotta be bugged

[wanton mortar]

im just asking why this one is invalidated

and not others

[keen spruce]

they still show on the rankings

[balmy condor]

PI logs get invalidated when you have more than 1 priests worth of PI

[keen spruce]

but they dont' count towards all star points or personal parse or something like that

[balmy condor]

so if they overlap

or they aren't 2 min apart

you get invalidated

[keen spruce]

oh

[wanton mortar]

did 2 priest pi me at same time?

[balmy condor]

you tell me

[keen spruce]

that makes more sense

link log

[balmy condor]

but yeah, 1 priest = fine

any PI cast that is not doable by 1 priest

= invalid

[wanton mortar]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dTJZXaq6Mrvy1jVx#fight=1

[balmy condor]

yeh

you got double pi'd