assassination

[glacial crypt]

Need to get some tissues for tanks in that case

Hold off until after Ur raid if ur raiding tonight :3

[turbid crest]

DO you have some macros guys ?

for cold blood ect ?

[night wren]

just finished norms! 🙂

[glacial crypt]

Iirc macroing cold blood with the fatebound build was a slight loss on beta

Since it flipped a coin? Could be wrong or outdated

[turbid crest]

i didnt understand why x2 garrot ?

[dusty skiff]

are there any secondary stat caps this season?

[glacial crypt]

Indiscriminate Carnage dot spreading + more cp for longer ruptures

[sonic zinc]

indiscriminate carnage and shrouded suffocation

[glacial crypt]

Yes team what were your options?

Scrolled up - what ilvl are your options*?

[turbid crest]

@glacial crypt is there a best assa choice in talent ? or all similary ?

[night wren]

I got tier shoulders (600ilvl), void reapers contract (ilvl 603), & sanguine experiment bandages (603)

Im googling how to sim rn, i saw the trinket was a bis item so i figured i would snag that instead of tier because my luck for drops is bad xD

[turbid crest]

There is so many build

[glacial crypt]

If you're playing m+ this week and didn't spend catalyst then I'd hold off on the tier shoulders since you can get higher ilvl ones very easily

The trinket is a safe choice imo but definitely go to raidbots and sin it

Sim

[night wren]

❤️ ty so much for the help

[glacial crypt]

I took the one from the wowhead guide with deathstalker, knowing your rotation will be the biggest DPS gain

[turbid crest]

This one ?

you play

[glacial crypt]

Yes that's the one

[turbid crest]

but if you know your rotation on every build

is one better or ?

all sames

[glacial crypt]

I couldn't tell you, I've not looked at the other ones sorry^^

I've learned full ST sub and general deathstalker assa this tier

[turbid crest]

im lost on wow head

at DF the discord assa was pinged with the Code and tell u what the best on sims

around 1% gain ect

now im a bit lost

[glacial crypt]

Let me have a look for you, one moment

On my phone

[turbid crest]

Thank you so much

bcs i lost my blizzard account have to made another one so have to take new interface ect

too many things to learn now

i dm you sir

[brave steeple]

!embellish

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[glacial crypt]

Here you are: https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/mythic-plus-dungeon-tips

There's builds for each dungeon you can take

[balmy condor]

(it's the same build for every dungeon)

[glacial crypt]

((import all of them it's funnier))

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[strange maple]

should i get the chest or head ?

[balmy condor]

whatever sims higher my king

[glacial crypt]

That socketted head is looking juicy

But still SIM it

[balmy condor]

would probably take tier pieces if you don't have tier pieces

but ya know

whatever floats your boat

[strange maple]

i have a curio

[turbid crest]

So thats the build AOE , Ok , can you send me ST raid one please ?

[glossy lintel]

should we be looking at crit/mas or mas/crit for crafted items?

[balmy condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/overview-pve-dps

[glacial crypt]

CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMjZmhZmxyMAAAAAAMbwyMAAAAAA022MzwDMzYMzMLz2MjxMYYmZGzsZbMDwmZZgBsEsMMBGWA

[turbid crest]

Thanks !

[glacial crypt]

From the wowhead guide too^^

[balmy condor]

this hurts my head for multiple reasons, the first is should sim it if you're that concerned, but the second thing is that crafted gear is 50/50 on stats

so like

[glossy lintel]

oh is it

[balmy condor]

mas/crit and crit/mas are the same

[glossy lintel]

lol

[balmy condor]

it's the same missive

[glossy lintel]

i thought first stat was higher, mb

[brave vector]

Am I super inting if I prefer fatebound?

[turbid crest]

But im on wowhead , and idk how to use it im so sorry ^^

Where i can see the rotation dps for ST witht he build u linked , and AOE one

sorry to be dumb

[brave vector]

There’s a rotation section in the wowhead guide

[turbid crest]

yeah but when you click on it u can choose talents ect

its new or idk

[glacial crypt]

The same section you linked an image from before ^^

[brave vector]

Look at the talents you’re using, and check off the ones you are using

[balmy condor]

no

fatebound is fine

[turbid crest]

with one you gived to me cuddle ?

[brave vector]

Word, I saw you wrote that singular focus in m+ is giga for prio and I didn’t want to miss hella dps if that was the case.

[balmy condor]

it's giga for the prio, but unless you're like hugecockpriodam it's fine

[glacial crypt]

Middle one!

I have the middle image up on my 2nd monitor at all times

[brave vector]

Great, I would not consider myself that at all, just a get all my teleports small boy

[glacial crypt]

Very helpful

[turbid crest]

Yeah i have 2 screen

gonna use it !

press cloak/evade and just LOOK OTHER SCREEN

x))))

[glacial crypt]

BASED

[kindred elm]

Is there a site like subcreation anymore?

[turbid crest]

and thats for the aoe one if i gotchu ?

[brave vector]

Archon.gg

[glacial crypt]

Archon.gg is what we have now

[glacial crypt]

Yes

[brave vector]

They bought subcreation

[turbid crest]

god bless u

[proud salmon]

!craft

[kindred elm]

Aight thanks guys

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[turbid crest]

sorry i have to reload everything , even ui ect im a big casu now

[turbid crest]

And could you gimme ur packaging rogue wa ? you use ? to track trinket ect ect ?

would be awesome

[glacial crypt]

I don't know if it's in the weakauras ping but Zac has a pack I use

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[glacial crypt]

Any of these will be good

[turbid crest]

you helped me so much thank you

gonne sub to your twitch

[glacial crypt]

Oh hell yeah thank you

[turbid crest]

was pushing s3 df 27-28 keys

[glad wind]

will any of these only show garrote and rupture? i don't want to see any of the other dots?

[turbid crest]

but lost my blizz acc with new computer fucked me

so much

[glacial crypt]

Get back to pushing captain you got this 🙏

[turbid crest]

nah i didnt i dont have binds , nothing

only 570 ilvl rn

started to play today

[chilly marsh]

so https://www.wowhead.com/item=220156/bubbling-wax#comments is working on m+ just tested here

[idle crane]

Soooooo if im using two 590 weapons, a 616 weapon in vault is probably going to trump a 593 tier piece or 603 trinket, yeah?

[chilly marsh]

is it anygood?

[glacial crypt]

Yes, SIM to be safe

[tired gull]

Sim it

[dull minnow]

Any tips on T8 Delves on Assassnation Rogue?

[glacial crypt]

There's a pin in the sub channel for that, it does outperform whetstone iirc

[brave vector]

I think whispyrs might hide deadly poison and mutilated flesh

[idle crane]

I figured yeah, but idk if getting tier faster is real important and beats the dagger despite what sims say, idk how to sim THAT lol

[glacial crypt]

Pull slow and tricks bran

If he gets agro you just dodge things

[chilly marsh]

only for sub or good for sin too?

[glacial crypt]

But it's not fast

[glacial crypt]

It's good for sin yes

It's also free compared to 5k gold per whetstone rn

[brave vector]

@glad wind but you can go into platers black list options and just add them, they’re as easy as typing the name in, it auto recognizes the abilities

[glad wind]

thanks

[carmine shore]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[still tree]

servers keep eating healers during stitchflesh

and weirdly only that boss

oh wrong channel, god I hate you discord, how did you jump to this

[turbid crest]

Can some1 explain me again why on AOE we rupture x2 and garrot x2 ?

its for spread to more ennemy ? its aoe rupture ?

[idle crane]

So, is offhand ilvl just not very important?

[turbid crest]

and can we focus the same target ? or we have to switch to some1 who dont have rupture + garrot on him

[quartz halo]

On a boss like silken court, do you wanna rupture both bosses with the raid aoe build?

[glacial crypt]

Single target build, maintain dots on both as much as possible

Run caustic

[quartz halo]

So we want to apply rupture and garrote on both bosses?

[turbid crest]

yeah

[glacial crypt]

Dot spreading and improved garrote + shrouded suffocation allow for multiple casts before it goes on CD

[turbid crest]

garrot/rupture on every target who survive entirely to this dot

rupture do more dmg than 1 evenom

so rupture>evenom

but target have to stay alive more than ... Sec

to be worth

[quartz halo]

okok I see

[turbid crest]

Can you focus the same target when u garotte x2 or u have to switch ?

same for rupture

to spead

you can applie it on ur main target x2 ? and its give to other ? or switch

idk if you lose 1 target if you save the one who have it

[glacial crypt]

Yes, ideally you mark the boss which has damage amp next on the fight

That's silken court specifically sorry^^

But yes focus one target for caustic after you crimson tempest in aoe

[inland escarp]

lol

[glacial crypt]

Switching is safer, if you have a player profile which shows if a target has dots on it then you'll be able to tell easily

You can also use a mouseover macro for it

[inland escarp]

When you 2x it’ll apply to 5 targets. If you have more than 5 it’s marginally better to switch

[raven egret]

well so far in raid, I feel like we are as expected in the results; aggressively mid X

[inland escarp]

But 5 is going to max your scent of blood anyways. It’s going to net you more the higher the target count

[inland escarp]

Boss dam doesn’t look so bad looking at log recaps

We just ain’t out here padding as sin

[glacial crypt]

I've been able to top the meters without trying super duper hard during heroic week, assa feels like it's in a better spot than logs let on

[open canyon]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[glacial crypt]

Like rasha'nan comes to mind, without padding we're easily within the top of the boss damage

[shy crow]

is this good

[crude anvil]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[gray olive]

can some1 explain me something rq
the DM, we need to re-apply Garrote and rupture to the duplicated dmg, or if the target have Garrote and rupture up, then we apply the DM, will auto boost the bleed dmgs?

[raven egret]

I just mean we have no where near the burst we use to, despite stiull being a burst class. In a raid of other good performers, we are not that high up - doing decent enough thus, aggressively mid XD

[open canyon]

Why are the sims with 2x Elemental Focusing Lens? is that what we have to craft? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5QK4CAoBagqu7w8bSJLVJA

[glacial crypt]

The logic is there but it seems like you're dooming for no reason :3

For pure ST sub is better, for any fight with slight cleave at all or movement assa just shines

[raven egret]

I'm not dooming, I'm saying we are doing good, just mid of the road

I'm having fun

[glacial crypt]

Like on ovinax? We're blasting

[graceful widget]

Anyone know if it's worth gemming 4 unique gem colors for the meta crit % damage? or just crit/mast gems

[glacial crypt]

Oh I must have misread sorry lmao

Glad you're enjoying it, assa feels great rn 😁

[raven egret]

yeah absolutely, a bit sad I can't really compete with my buddy warlock on some fights, but we nevertheless at least contribute. Our burst is just not what it used to be 😉

but I fckin love Court, theres some insane timing you can play around with on that fight

[ivory leaf]

hey what weapon enchants we running

[raven egret]

Depth

[ivory leaf]

ty

[cyan summit]

It’s bis finger

[shy crow]

woohoo!

[cyan summit]

Gz

[turbid bone]

!embellishments

[lusty narwhal]

lol

absolutely trolled

no secondary stats

[cyan summit]

Because it has an effect I guess

[lusty narwhal]

Probably sucks

[boreal lichen]

Where did you get that dagger ?

[ivory leaf]

that is my fav dagger lol, so iconic

[lusty narwhal]

the timewalking raid

[leaden bloom]

how do I use Ovi'nax's Mercurial Egg properly?

[half egret]

did you guys convert a champ or hero piece into tier set with the harmonized silk?

[onyx gyro]

got the very rare bis cloak. should take over tier, dont even have any tier yet

[dull minnow]

Im really lost, confused, and overwhelmed. What should I be doing at ilvl580 to increase gear score? T8 Solos are just hell.

[lusty narwhal]

hit dummy for 5mins, no proc on the wep

absolute dirt

[leaden bloom]

just keep under 20

k

[winged basin]

after being mid all of normal reclear as outlaw, I think I truly submitted myself as a sin player, cause man am I just god fuckin awful at it

best parse was a 93 on princess, was a trash can for the rest of the raid

[vapid terrace]

!embellish

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[quartz halo]

what should I prioritize in the KB window?

[solar orbit]

Do we craft wrist and belt with gilded as well?

[distant monolith]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[turbid crest]

@glacial crypt

2 screen cooking

[glacial crypt]

yes team love to see it

[remote ermine]

what are top trinkets now that sac was nerfed?

[keen remnant]

inside kings window I should spam envenom or just keep clipping ?

[runic sorrel]

Is assassination doing better now that theres Deathstalker fixes? or is it still the lowest DPS spec

[gray olive]

some1?

[crude anvil]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[deft vault]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[half egret]

has anyone converted armor into tier set with harmonized silk yet? hero or champ gear?

[gentle apex]

Hero but only after raid

[exotic mortar]

hi can i check if transmitter is bis for assa rogue atm

[half tartan]

is Deatachable Fang from Delves good? I got a 610

[cobalt shuttle]

did they fix echoing+deathmark interactions?

[slate crown]

Pins

[still tree]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[fallow sonnet]

do we need to fully refresh dots before duplicating with deathmark? IE will the 2nd rupture last like 40+ seconds? or just have a minimum of 16 seconds left on rupture and garrote before casting deathmark to duplicate? or can i duplicate with rupture / garrote at like 4 seconds left and ittl apply a 16 seconder?

[crystal delta]

we dont use Duskthread as assa anymore?

[unborn narwhal]

i love how difficult it is to get answers to simple questions: death mark lasts i think 16s and garrote lasts 18s, if you re-apply it will last longer while being on the death mark effect, i.e. it maximizes uptime

[weary spear]

i have a heroic scroll of momentum would that be close to bis right now?

[torn atlas]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[cobalt shuttle]

ok dumb question again they fix the buff where when u have the passive for deathstalker max comobs and the target has 1 mark left you lose the mark? D:

gonna come back to the game after a week xD so i couldnt catch news/otherstuff ty for your time guys ❤️

[balmy condor]

both, deathmark duplicates when you cast, but also when you cast during deathmark, so extending during is fine

[balmy condor]

no clue, that sim is 3 weeks old I wouldn't trust it

[balmy condor]

it's very minor but it should be yes

[balmy condor]

you just stand still and use it, but it's basically a passive, moving gives you haste instead of agi and that's fine too

[winged basin]

does caustic splash off the boss or me? trying to determine if I tunnel bloodbound the whole time or swap to adds, also god bless whispyr for all these replies, truly the best of us ❤️ 🙂

[balmy condor]

mythic0 into m+ and normal heroic

[fallow sonnet]

do we need to fully refresh dots before duplicating with deathmark? IE will the 2nd rupture last like 40+ seconds? or just have a minimum of 16 seconds left on rupture and garrote before casting deathmark to duplicate? or can i duplicate with rupture / garrote at like 4 seconds left and ittl apply a 16 seconder?

[runic hinge]

It’ll only duplicate while DM is up

[fallow sonnet]

ok

thank u

but i should have minimum 16s before i dm right

on both bleeds

[balmy condor]

no idea what this means, but during cooldowns you should be using your energy and not pooling

[runic hinge]

doesn't matter, you can refresh during dm and it's fine

[balmy condor]

if you want I guess

[runic hinge]

it's dynamic

[balmy condor]

gilded is expensive atm

[fallow sonnet]

ok i understand

thank u

❤️

[balmy condor]

pins

[balmy condor]

no

[fallow sonnet]

but also i probably should avoid refreshing during DM because i kingsbane in that window right and i want to maximize envenoms

[balmy condor]

no, also it's shit to play

[fallow sonnet]

like ideally

[quick echo]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[balmy condor]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[fallow sonnet]

like dont let it drop, but ideally i spam envenom right

[balmy condor]

all of NA is raiding and all of EU is asleep, chillax

[balmy condor]

probably not, but it's usable

[brazen sentinel]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

yes

[balmy condor]

off of the boss

[balmy condor]

it's kinda whatever, rupture should last the entire way through deathmark

so yes in an ideal world, wouldn't need to refresh

[brave vector]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[bold hearth]

this is definitely a dumb question, but X2 dawnthread is supposed to give X2 the crit of 1 dawnthread right?

[balmy condor]

!dawnthread

[prisma monolith]

Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.

[unborn narwhal]

im chill tbh, any possibility to collect the most asked questions and dump them in a FAQ channel? i follow this channel sporadically but i see the same questions pop up regularly. or a channel where people can dedicately ask questions and get their personal reply thread?

[bold hearth]

ty

[balmy condor]

yeh I'm working on the FAQ, but part of the issue is that 95% of these questions are just reading tooltips or reading a guide, FAQ won't help if people don't read

all of today was just screenshots of vault and "what take?????????" followed by "sim it"

on repeat

for like 6 hours

just be like that in class discords

[unborn narwhal]

true, but one can make people answer a few questions before they can start to chat right? :> to make sure they read the FAQ first

[balmy condor]

we don't have anything for that

[unborn narwhal]

anyways, i appreciate your patience tbh

[balmy condor]

if it were up to me asking a guide question would just be an insta kick

and you can join back and read resources

but that's extreme

[willow rain]

anyone else get consumed on the last boss and it did 200million damage to you on the logs? xD

[balmy condor]

yeh

they made sure that it REALLY kills you

[willow rain]

its too funny.

[crude anvil]

anyone have tips for silken court? this shits terrible

[blazing jewel]

Just health pot

[balmy condor]

dot both, slam whatever boss is next for intermission

[crude anvil]

thank you

[cloud basin]

am i cool yet lol? im doin assassin things

[balmy condor]

imagine

if I had my mark

for p2

but no

mark poof

[wheat tiger]

Any reason Kiss of Death trinket is not good?

seems to sim ok

its not even on the trinket list

[balmy condor]

it is

right here

[cursive flicker]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[balmy condor]

it's okay early in the season

but it's not anything crazy

and its a low item level

cause delve

also 2 min 30 sec cd

is awful

cause it doesn't line up with anything

also think it's simming well because it doesn't trigger the shared trinket cooldowns

but idk if that's fixed or not yet

[wheat tiger]

the candle?

[balmy condor]

what

[wheat tiger]

oh nvm

i see it

sorry i missed it. lol thats tewrrible

[balmy condor]

right now it's basically just cheese

since you can double cast on pull

and 4 min

[wheat tiger]

guess i am taking tokens on GV #1

[balmy condor]

yeesh

[wheat tiger]

yea

[haughty flicker]

best vault to have to take one

at least you arent losing out on myth track shit

[wheat tiger]

cup half full i like it

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[wheat tiger]

another question

im looking at the BIS gear sims and i see 2x Blue 2x Green etc.

doesnt the prismatic gem just need 1 of each color ?

or does the 2x stack

[sharp trellis]

i may be stupid but i don't understand what they call color in prismatic gem

please help

[shy crow]

dont let the woke media tell u how to play your spec

[wheat tiger]

it says Amber / Blue / Red

[shy crow]

do whatever you want, dont follow other peoples' steps

carve ur own path king

if it looks good then you are a ok

[balmy condor]

it's really minor tbh

I don't think it matters

just socket whatever for now

[sharp trellis]

Is the sim from raidbot working good with the prismatic gem ? it doesn't recommend me other colors . and also what colors mean ?

[balmy condor]

yeah it's working fine

it's just minor

if your stats are a bit off, it'll recommend other gems

0.15% crit damage is just

really bad

[silver burrow]

Hey guys really new to rogue and want to focus on m+ but also bust into mythic raiding this season. I've never gotten to play rogue I know I'll need to learn all 3 but what would you say would be best rogue spec to learn first for ksm and heroic raiding?

[balmy condor]

depends on what you find easy or not, but most start with outlaw/assa

sub is definitely easier than it has been in the past

but still a bit unapproachable especially with dust still being around for another 2 months

[silver burrow]

Outlaw seems like a lot of fun honestly and assassination looked the most approachable maybe I'll spend a few days in those 2 and get a feel. I'll watch your videos now 😄

[slim tundra]

does the vault open ion 30 mins?

[wheat tiger]

ok thanks

[cosmic rune]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[thin gate]

u got any recommendation, on what to drop for dashin scoundrel on ur wowhead build? (M+)

[wheat tiger]

trinket list is updated with the Sac nerf right? i mean 5% doesnt seem like much but figured i would ask before i go farming

[balmy condor]

yes

[balmy condor]

nothing, why would you run dashing in m+

[thin gate]

im starvin @ bosses

[balmy condor]

that's normal

[thin gate]

if i dont have tea charges

aight

[strange cargo]

think its worth picking champion track set gloves, catalyst champion track legs ( I have shoulders and chest already), or hold out for possible drops from raid?

[balmy condor]

I wouldn't recommend taking anything champ track

[strange cargo]

overall better taking hero to catalyst and wait for raid drop then

i know the set completion 4peice isnt that massive

[heady geyser]

hello im very new to playing rouge and was hoping someone could help me with a question when your using Echoing reprimand if you use mutilate and you pass the combo point for Echoing reprimand do u still get the buff that it will still act as it was used at full combo points

[worthy moon]

Is there any BT loot worth grabbing

[balmy condor]

no, has to be exactly that cp

[balmy condor]

no

[worthy moon]

Thanks!

[balmy condor]

just do the timewalking cache for raid loot and gg

[bright charm]

hell is BT

Black Temple?

[worthy moon]

Si

[heady geyser]

@balmy condor Thank you very much

[lucid silo]

sin feeling real good in raid tonight

[fresh kelp]

The vanish after Kingsbane, should I be applying a imp. garrote, or do ambush to re-apply deathstalkers mark?

[worthy moon]

Except of slug boss

It felt so bad for me on slug boss

I want to play Outlaw but I don't have zoomer fingers

[proud pelican]

Can the timewalking cache drop tier?

[lucid silo]

i beat out the outlaw whos better geared

splatter is bis

[worthy moon]

So you just tunnel boss and splatter?

[lyric marlin]

if you spec improved garrote you garrote, if youre not specced into garrote you ambush

[worthy moon]

How much did you spread rupture?

I get super energy starver

[lucid silo]

spread bleeds on the big spiders a little

but otherwise splatter the boss

[still jasper]

haste mastery

[hollow wigeon]

guys, im having trouble to deal dmg with single target builds

[prisma coral]

silly question, is there such a thing as too much mastery?

[thin gate]

does Arterial Precision prio non affected target son aoe Shiv?

e.g a 8 mob pull, can i just double shiv on em to apply it to all?

[balmy condor]

no

not that you would ever want to do that anyway

[lone cape]

When would i go mastery/crit over mastery/haste, is it just preference?

[runic hinge]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[fresh kelp]

Worth using catalyst on a Champion piece to obtain 2pc?

[balmy condor]

depends how badly you need that champ track shit

I don't think you ever use resources on champ

[fresh kelp]

yeah ill just hold onto it for now

[warped lily]

What should I do here?

[fleet pagoda]

finishing reagant that adds +skill

[true rapids]

use a r3 embellishment

[warped lily]

ty

[true rapids]

and r3 alloy

but just embellish should push you

[worthy moon]

Are you guys playing the full AoE spec on slug boss?

[fleet pagoda]

I've just been playing ST cleave

which is an oxymoron

[worthy moon]

on the topic of dagger, if i craft one with Runed Crests can I recraft with myth ones?

[balmy condor]

most people just swap into caustic

[warped lily]

Didnt work

[ripe carbon]

wondering this too. im pretty sure u can

[gilded oasis]

3fps fights are fun

[wooden flare]

you can only wear two embellishments

[mild oar]

do you upgrade a item to make 2 piece tier or ride it out

[whole sand]

egg gang

[gilded oasis]

eggy

[rugged sphinx]

just so i'm not being dumb, and i'm pretty sure i'm right, sub and sin have the same loot pool right?

[ripe carbon]

i got skardyns grace on first m+

[balmy condor]

yes

grrrr ovinax

LET ME PAD

[rocky ruin]

Rip

[loud dome]

does serrated bone spike stacks on single target?

[thin gate]

no

just the initial hit

[blazing jewel]

play ethical rn

[unique heart]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/bleeding-hollow/mancimoney Could anyone look at my logs lmk what to do better

[blazing jewel]

[river acorn]

is it okay to put raid and m+ enchant on main and offhand or is that a bad idea?

[whole wing]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[fleet pagoda]

that's fine, nbd

[river acorn]

sweet thanks

[fleet pagoda]

for reference I just did a +4 with one Radiant power enchant and it was only .6% of my damage. probably won't really be an impact to worry about either way

[dull minnow]

(ilvl580) trying to pug Mythic 0 is god awful and T8 Delves are painfully slow but, thats about my only realistic options right?

[spring pike]

is this a socket angle?

[nocturne mortar]

is Treacherous great at m+ ?

[wide dome]

Is there a world where wed ever duel weild 2 Regicide?

[fleet pagoda]

the world where it's your two highest ilvl daggers, sure

[vale knoll]

Cloak or tier hmmm currently 0 tier pieces

[tawny geyser]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/54b1YfyBk2ZC2cGWUvCtFE

I have a chest tier...but this trink kinda slams, no? any advice?

[tawdry flint]

hm decisions, will be a long time before i get cloak in raid

[haughty flicker]

mfw i forget to put the embellishment on a belt i paid a guy 20k to make

then he wants 14k to recraft it

[tawny geyser]

IF you're on Silvermoon EU, Ill recraft it for free

[haughty flicker]

nah im na

[whole sand]

sell me this pen moment

[rotund crag]

I put one on mine when I already had two embellishes then had to pay again to get it recrafted and removed lol

[haughty flicker]

i'll just wait until i recraft it with gilded

or find some random who will do it

[cerulean walrus]

@balmy condor I'll kiss you on the lips boy I'm slapping up 99s tonight

[primal egret]

!macros

[severe oyster]

Anyone have a WA that shows a desaturated spatter icon when it's not up? My WA keeps defaulting to a question mark when it's not applied.

[lucid cradle]

So im new to Assas, and warcraft logs obv arent up yet. What are you guys finishing at and whats your top dam? mostly to see my sam prio list as a good way to see where I should be heading

[keen spruce]

link me your WA

maybe i fix

[severe oyster]

I just grabbed this one off Wago after I couldn't get my own to work. Doing the same thing.

https://wago.io/800VqL-XX

[bright turret]

is a weapon embellishment just as strong in offhand? IE craft a dagger but use offhand outlaw

[keen spruce]

ty standby

[severe oyster]

Actually that one just disappears and shows nothing.

[keen spruce]

and you just want the icon to stay but desaturate?

[severe oyster]

Yeah

[spring pike]

is mad queens a bad pick ? :/

[keen spruce]

oh beta servers are offline still

I cannot help atm

If you go to conditions though

you should be able to select desaturate and set the condition to "on cooldown = true" or somethin like that

[spare viper]

Does any1 know why my transmitter sims terrible? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/u7bdttM5hXfNZoejWH5VUd

[severe oyster]

I'll check whenever I can get out of combat. Forgot to talent out of bone spike. Keep me in combat forever lool

[hexed frost]

Any obvious winners or just sim it brah?

No wrist because i will craft that slot, no weapon because i have hc regicide and 606 tnw scalpel

[upper wraith]

which build are ppl running for keys?

bosses seem tough

[cosmic rune]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[thin gate]

did they do sum to the proc rate of Tet stats?

[pliant remnant]

I swear every vault picture I see has a Transmitter in it

[radiant kettle]

Are y'all using the M+ Hybrid build for Bloodtwister Ovinax?

[thin gate]

i feel like every 2nd item i get dropped has avoidance leech or speed on it

[spare viper]

does transmitter sim good for any1 else?

[whole sand]

does anyone know how i can specifically shut xal'atath up in these m+'s

why is she on the master channel ffs

[real granite]

ye transmitter is a strong one, is also a pain in the ass

[spare viper]

for me it sims worst so idk if i shud take it from vault

dont know if that wil change

[real granite]

theres lot of better trinkets and probably the effort is not worth it in a lot of situations

if its not simming good for you, take what sim say its the best upgrade

[crude mortar]

can anyone help me? i got 2 set right now and with the headpiece i get 3set

[keen spruce]

gotta fly very far away from the target dummy

[whole sand]

[devout schooner]

Which is the worst tier item? I cant find it in any guide

[distant plinth]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[distant plinth]

Check the off piece on top sim

[pastel seal]

Hmmm, Raidbots really wants me to take the neck, but my roguesenses are tingling for Shadow Binding Ritual Knife trinky

[woven torrent]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[still stirrup]

can do it if you need

[haughty flicker]

i found someone

ty though

[real granite]

pawn

[lime delta]

[pastel seal]

Ignore it. You didn't see pawn. Pawn isn't there.
(I like seeing the green arrows)

[brisk bough]

everyone got great vaults..

[crude mortar]

btw

is it worth selecting tiersets?

in the vault

cause we can use catalyst right

[spice spire]

Yeah but only one charge

[woven torrent]

@brisk bough u only see the good ones kek

[crude mortar]

wdym o nly one charge

[spice spire]

Like smart thing for me would be to leave vault and raid tomorrow

Wdym what do I mean

[wooden flare]

well, I got A vault, great is a strong word

[spice spire]

You have one charge

Next week you get your second

[gilded oasis]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[crude mortar]

btw, the "ascendance" effect on daggers, is that from the trinket ''imperfect ascendancy serum'' ?

[spice spire]

No it’s a dark moon thing hole

[brisk bough]

I got no clue what to do with this XD

[crude mortar]

oh i see

i just simmed with raidbots

and it said that trinket i should take from the vault

but im thinking..possible 4set..

[spice spire]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=226024/darkmoon-sigil-ascension

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[crude mortar]

thahnk you so much!

[spice spire]

No worries

As for vault

Tier early on is the one thing that makes the vault tricky

[crude mortar]

ursj

yeah*

[spice spire]

I can say “sim it” to a lot of things

[hallow pelican]

so droptimizer isnt on overwolf?

[spice spire]

But tier is wild

Nah it’s on raidbots

[gilded oasis]

Sim yo attitude

[crude mortar]

all it comes down to...is do i take that trinket..or the head piece

[spice spire]

You get simulation craft off overwold to help run top gear

[hexed frost]

help me rogue bros... the sims b/w patchwerk and dslice is conflicting for vault. Want to pick something that's sort of compromise b/w both because i do M+ and raid

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/apvjU8Df3S7a5SAz5va1u8
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hBDH38cLTcF23hxPDciM9S

[spice spire]

You sass me again and I’ll kiss ur fiancée in the lips I swear to god

[hexed frost]

[gilded oasis]

📸

robot told me to use 2 on use I am mad

[thin nova]

Hey guys, I got the mad queen's mandate tonight, is it actually good? It's simming lower than my other tinkets

[spice spire]

Am I lit or do both say to take pants

And the only difference is the upgrade

It’s also very late and I’ve been awake like

19 hours

[strange python]

My plater is changing colours when another rogues mark is on the target and not mine, is there a fix for that? Am i stupid? I'm using whispyrs profile

[gilded oasis]

Yeah get rid of other rogue

[spice spire]

Ur fiancée is getting frenched bud

[gilded oasis]

😽

There should be an own only or something similar

[hexed frost]

Yes both say to take pants

but pants are something i can take from heroic farming kek

[spice spire]

When do you kill heroic

[hexed frost]

nvm i should probably take pants

[spice spire]

If the answer is today

[hallow pelican]

hate to be a n00b about this but does someone have a sec to gimme a quick walkthrough of simulationcraft?

[spice spire]

Just hold vault

[spice spire]

Have you downloaded it?

[hallow pelican]

yes I have the chat window up with the info dump it gave me

[spice spire]

Copy:paste it

Well copy it

Go to https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear

And paste it in that box

[thin nova]

Could somebody explain why mad queen's mandate is "S" Tier, but simming lower than Treachrous Transmitter/Kiss of Death?

[runic depot]

hows our 2 set and 4 set in terms of tier set power

[spice spire]

Ilvl

[thin nova]

They're all 603 :/

[spice spire]

Weak on the spectrum of power

[thin nova]

heck the mandate is actually 606 but simming less

[spice spire]

Your other trinkets are delve ones tho yesh?

Max out at 626 while that trinket goes up to 636(?) or whatever

[thin nova]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iNmphTiqUKbH489ifBWQex

[spice spire]

Tier lists aren’t a Bible

[brisk bough]

I simmed on raidbots, how do i change the gear for the options in my vault?

[haughty flicker]

gonna be honest fuck ds in m+

i really like it in raid, not so much in keys

gonna play fatebound

[autumn folio]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[spice spire]

Open your vault and /simc

Then they should show up as options in your sim

[thin nova]

Gotcha, so I should follow the sims not the tier list

[spice spire]

And select them all

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/agre-cat-nod-gif-22214510

[thin nova]

Thank you!

[spice spire]

Anytime big dog glhf

[autumn folio]

where can I see dps gain for assa rogue with set bonus?

[spice spire]

There are sheets floating around

[dense anvil]

what do I 636 craft I'm lost. wep if I know I'm not getting one this week from raid? bracers? belt? boots? lol

[spice spire]

Weapon/embellishments

[runic hinge]

quake why does blizz hate me

[spice spire]

Because you were a feral main for years

[runic hinge]

from my timewalking cache

[scarlet wyvern]

make a mog on this i beg u

[dense anvil]

I just turned in my queen tokens lol I will

[scarlet wyvern]

xDDD

[spice spire]

[haughty flicker]

L

[thin gate]

just do nothing.

AS THE TRINKET TELLS U

[runic hinge]

do i macro to kb?

[haughty flicker]

you delete it

and save yourself

[thin gate]

prolly deathstalker or?

with 90 sec cd

[runic hinge]

my trinkets are bad, one week of it won't kill me

[dense anvil]

for u bb

[haughty flicker]

[scarlet wyvern]

rawrr

[thin gate]

my eyes

are bleedin

[spice spire]

Going to sleep be nice to each other kids

[scarlet wyvern]

i love mashed mogs

pure art

[dense anvil]

I am fish boy. Hired princess assassin. I just kill princess on loop all day every day

[spice spire]

Also @tired gull 616 chest. Had tier shoulders too but cba

[gentle gyro]

the correct choice must be the shoulders, no?

[hallow pelican]

if you dont have skardyns yeah

but otherwise id pick that trinket

[gentle gyro]

i mean i don't, which is why im not sure

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/agre-cat-nod-gif-22214510

[hallow pelican]

BIS trinket over hero sshoulders .... not an easy choice

[scarlet wyvern]

just parse them

[gentle gyro]

i mean i can farm the trinket, but i cannot farm tier set

[runic hinge]

yeah i mean the trinket is farmable on hero

[scarlet wyvern]

it will tell you

[hallow pelican]

no but you can ctalyst the tier set next week

[gentle gyro]

it's less about what gives more dps, the trinket almost certainly does

[scarlet wyvern]

take trinket imho

[cyan summit]

i guess its better to see what i get in heroic raid and normal first before i get my vault reward

[hallow pelican]

that trinket is rarer than an honest politician

[scarlet wyvern]

set can be catalysteteteted

[cyan summit]

whats everyone else getting on their vaults ?

[spice spire]

Track also matters. And that trinket maxing at 609 kinda sucks

[pearl osprey]

1st rogue

[brisk bough]

Thank you! found it out and used it. It recommended getting the 616 ring

[wise plume]

i got shard from illidan, and then hero shard from cache, like bruh

[spice spire]

Hell yeah

[wise plume]

this dagger blows

[cosmic rune]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[turbid crest]

Is some1 have the UI of naowh ? or something looks like ?

[balmy condor]

I think naowh has the ui of naowh

might want to ask him

[cunning needle]

whats the talent build for m+ now with ER fix?

still same?

[brisk bough]

taking a 616 ring from vault feels very underwelming xD

[cunning needle]

probably better off taking socket

[cunning needle]

thankye

[balmy condor]

npye

[faint path]

wtf is that ????? jesus...

[cunning needle]

contract not bad

[brisk bough]

Sorry what do u mean by that? 😄

[cunning needle]

anything on the hero track from vault can be gotten from m+

so in the long ru n socket gives you most benefit

especially a ring

[faint path]

can't believe didn't even get set piece or anything lmao

[ripe carbon]

is crafting a 619 dagger a bad idea?

[faint path]

I'm just gonna craft dagger ngl fuck this game

[cyan summit]

whats this addon called ?

to have my action bars like that ?

[ripe carbon]

im think ima go dagger + embelish on it , and use 2nd peice for writhing

[pearl osprey]

isnt default ui ?

you can do than for sure

[cyan summit]

oh ok ty

ill try now

[pearl osprey]

look

[brisk bough]

So add a jewlers setting to the ring?

[gentle apex]

elvui

[ripe carbon]

its probably dominos?

[orchid adder]

So for mythic+, is it from 7 that hero track gear starts dropping at the end of the run?

[fleet coral]

is transmitter good for assasin ?

[rotund widget]

How much of a dmg loss is it without tier set ?

[hallow pelican]

Transmitter is average at best ... Set bonus is maybe 2-4% ?

set for us is pretty dogshit comparatively

[cunning needle]

no you can use it to add sockets

to non jewelery

[hallow pelican]

and ... FFS WHY DOESNT ANYTHING DROP A DAGGER OR DECENT TRINKET THERES $ GODDAMN ROGUES IN MY GUILD THAT HAVE SKARDYNS AND SPYGLASS AT HERO ALREADY GOD DAMMIT FUCK

ahem

sorry

[gilded oasis]

you ok homie?

[rugged sphinx]

why is xal's voiceline is m+ so loud

[hallow pelican]

i'll be ok ...

but 9 fucking armor pieces in my vault ...

i sweat if I gotta go through what i went through in BfA trying to get those goddamn mage bracers...

[real pike]

Around what key level are people moving from bleed build to hybrid?

Also are people preferring numbing or atrophic atp

[idle crane]

I dont really understand weapons and upgrading... I got a 616 weapon in vault, but trying to upgrade my OH still costs crests, and it doesnt really sim that much of an increase either to fully upgrade it

I guess I dont understand MH/OH

[blazing plaza]

both weapons needs the same level so it will not cost crests

[hallow pelican]

its like rings ... it counts your 2 highest ilvl items ever looted

[idle crane]

Gotcha

[hallow pelican]

thats why the pandaria thing was so bugged ... if you fully upgraded your weapon, you could buy the awakened weapons and upgrade them to max using only flightstones

same with your armor

[cyan summit]

Ironclaw Whetstone is so expensive wtff

is it difficult to make ?

[idle crane]

So I guess having looted a high ilvl MH, spark for oh and spark for another piece wouldnt be a bad route for me right now huh?

[crisp stream]

its expensive to make as well

[wise plume]

algari mana oil gang

[cyan summit]

how much to make do u know ?

[cyan summit]

is that a cheaper version ?

[wise plume]

yeah

[late vale]

what off piece do we want?

wowhead says 5pc kekw

[native seal]

I have got a hero treacherous transmitter in my vault i should prolly not take it right?

[cyan summit]

but u dont need much haste :/

[cyan summit]

do the raids before deciding i guess

[willow cloud]

I got a h transmitter today — I find the mini games relatively easy, and they all seem fine for M+. Super high end prog mythic raid it probably is not the move, because 2 require you move somewhere, one requires you move and stand somewhere for a sec (often in melee range, but very possibly in bad).

IMO, transmitter feels really good in m+ though

[jade hemlock]

have they fixed the anima charge interaction with deathstalker/night thing on the hero talent tree?

[pastel seal]

Oh no what have I done

[real granite]

i dont think trasmitter is good in m+...

[tepid plaza]

help

[real granite]

KILL HIM, BEFORE HE REPRODUCES

[pastel seal]

Using pawn knowing it's mostly shit and you sim everything anyways: Calm
Using pawn unironically: not calm

[real granite]

also, that was not a big effort in concealing his pfp buddy XDD

[pastel seal]

Don't want to put anyone on blast m8

[tepid plaza]

what should i take bros

regicide (i have a blue dagger) a tier set?

[quartz cloak]

I just Pawn to identify higher ilvl in bags real quick 😅

[real granite]

farewell fellow rogs, tomorrow (in 3h) my journey starts, i will pick my first pokeitem from proffesor Vault and will become a dungeon master

good night

[waxen oyster]

So what is getting a socket the equivalent to

[real granite]

a shiny duh

[pliant remnant]

This shit didn't drop for me once on Heroic week across 3 chars

and first key of the season it gives me it

but it's a 584 WUE

[nocturne mortar]

can i start the queen quest chain on alt or should i do the campaign once again ?

[balmy condor]

I think it's attached to campaign

[ripe carbon]

!crafting

[median igloo]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[ripe carbon]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[violet shard]

morning all, I'm very new to rogue and have a question about the class/spec. for assassination, do you want to spread caustic splatter to as many mobs as possible? meaning the splash damage stacks?

[runic hinge]

caustic is one target only

[main monolith]

illidan's trinket is good? :C

[violet shard]

ohh, so it gets removed if reapplied elswhere. alright thank you 🙂

[marble hemlock]

@lethal heart i got lucky for once

[faint path]

w a o w

[queen egret]

is this neck noteworthy for assa?

[faint path]

I didn't even get upgrade from first week vault literally

[cyan summit]

!macro

hey guys how can i have my shadowstep mouseover but then goes to my target when i dont have the target on my mouseover , so it basically works both ways

[versed mica]

This any good?

[cyan summit]

im currently using "#showtooltip
/cast [target=mouseover] Shadowstep" but this only works with mouseover

[balmy condor]

imagine getting this week 1, showing up to raid reclear, and @stuck knoll still pushes your shit in

[fiery ferry]

#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,exists] ShadowStep; ShadowStep

[cyan summit]

ty

[marble hemlock]

yeah, fury clearly needs more nerfs still

[balmy condor]

I have accepted that I will never parse ovi'nax

[marble hemlock]

ye

[round nexus]

Fury is also insanely easy to play if you come from rogue 😅

[thorn fjord]

Holy

[marble hemlock]

ovinax is a "just hit boss like a dummy" angle

[balmy condor]

I will continue to peddle CT on that fight

it feels like such a CT fight

[marble hemlock]

just play frostmage

[balmy condor]

there's just no way it isn't

[balmy condor]

but jesus christ when parasites die that fast

it makes me doubt

[thorn fjord]

They die way too quick now

It’s like instant

[balmy condor]

yeah

[marble hemlock]

they died in like 3sec for us ye

prenerf

idk

[thorn fjord]

We blasted through heroic

[marble hemlock]

weird raid

[thorn fjord]

Yeah

[marble hemlock]

heroic feels super undertuned until you hit ansurek

which seems decently tuned

[crisp stream]

is it worth it

?

[waxen oyster]

everyone talks about fury

[balmy condor]

hell to the fuck no

[fleet pagoda]

try it with my group

[waxen oyster]

but forgetting havoc’s burst aoe

is also wild

[pliant remnant]

siphoning stiletto

[waxen oyster]

demonsurge go brrr

[crisp stream]

no luck with daggers yet running 610 daggers, should i craft the normal agi one 619?

or wait?*

[balmy condor]

stiletto is a free pass to delete crests

[balmy condor]

you craft the regular agi dagger with ascension instead

at least for raid

[cerulean walrus]

I am a GAMER

[balmy condor]

die

[marble hemlock]

great. now come EU and make me some

gems are kinda pricey too

9k for mastery/crit

[soft merlin]

not bad

[cerulean walrus]

I will give you a slobbery kiss on the mouth

My beloved

[balmy condor]

I would make you all the mast/crit

[marble hemlock]

ye i was considering pushing an alt for this shit

but its the materials that are rexpensive

[orchid gust]

wait what it hought u could only get tierset form raid

[balmy condor]

incorrect

[slate crown]

gemsyes

gemmmmms

[balmy condor]

m+ needed a way to get tier

so they just added it

[gentle gyro]

same way the whetstones use null stones as reagent, making them giga expensive

[balmy condor]

to every slot

[orchid gust]

thats soooooooo big

[thorny spire]

should i complete the 4 piece tier or take the dagger?

[raven torrent]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[round nexus]

Jesus.. I have 0 piece

[balmy condor]

sim :)

[slate crown]

The +50skill mats you get are a treat, the rank2 gems themselves are a decent turnaround on their own, then you can turn them to r3 with split r2/3 mats and it's great

[runic hinge]

that's more points that engi has overall lol

[modest gale]

which tier set we dont play? i mean which slot

[balmy condor]

yeah jewelcrafting is misery

[balmy condor]

we don't have a "bad" slot

but if you have to drop one, you'd drop chest

[raven dome]

is treacherous transmitter actually that bad of a trinket with the minigames? i got a 616 one in my vault

[balmy condor]

did you play season 3 dragonflight?

[modest gale]

giga, got 2 set now

😄

[balmy condor]

it's like witherbark branch from that season

but far worse

[raven dome]

gulp

[pliant remnant]

witherbark's branch my beloved

[wooden flare]

is there a local download of raidbot I can use, similar to classic sims? shit takes forever

[barren shuttle]

"Which tier piece u want?" yes

[scarlet wyvern]

discord raidbots would be actually insane

[modest gale]

and do we play crit or mastery flask?

[hexed canopy]

!crest

[slate crown]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[gritty gazelle]

the plater profile has a bugged green box around target is this anyone else getting this?

[balmy condor]

yes, it's called simulationcraft

https://www.simulationcraft.org/

raidbots is just a user interface + cloud service

but all the simulations are just running on simulationcraft

[queen egret]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[sour citrus]

!talents

[balmy condor]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[cerulean walrus]

Absolutely enormous night for me

4 pc

Depths enchant

Gaming

[queen egret]

In the !craft command, the waist you are refeering to is just the regular one right? not the one with nerubian embelishment

[waxen oyster]

nerubian can go almost anywhere

[dusk ingot]

right because you're gonna use the thread embelish

[faint path]

should I choose this over champ tier set I'm gonna be 2 set sims says take set but for short term tier is make sense ...

[gritty gazelle]

just reinstalled it and it fixed it if anyone else gets it

[wide hawk]

👀 myes

[balmy condor]

writhing banding goes in any slot

[waxen oyster]

printscreen is your friend

[faint path]

everyone got 616 sets besides me hate this shitty game

[balmy condor]

gratz on shoulders

[faint path]

@balmy condor whatchu say about it ?

[balmy condor]

champ anything is bad

[dusk ingot]

So, question... If running death would you go for Sacbrood, while Fate goes for Spyglass for passive trinket? or do both just go for Sacbrood?

[balmy condor]

if you have the option for a hero track I'd basically insta take it

[waxen oyster]

why would fatebound not play an on use

[faint path]

sadly no good option at all besides neck and shoulder...

[waxen oyster]

in one slot

[queen egret]

but we want dawnthread right?

[balmy condor]

both can play either idk

they're both good

[balmy condor]

for m+ yeah

but if you're putting dawnthread on, why would you say nerubian

[waxen oyster]

im gonna ne a hipster and play high versa whispyr

[balmy condor]

go for it

[dusk ingot]

heard

[waxen oyster]

its mostly jokes since got a regicide 616

from raid

[runic hinge]

same apparently

[waxen oyster]

[feral wasp]

It isn't terrible if I use a catalyst on haste versa hero shoulder's to get 4 piece right? Will probably take chest from vault & head piece from the pvp achievement token guy to complete 4

[dusk ingot]

I somehow lucked out and got a dagger from a bountiful delve trove that's same stats as regicide...

[waxen oyster]

some outlaw player creaming

[runic hinge]

Bt chest

[barren shuttle]

I have 12k versa 🙂 unintended

[waxen oyster]

doesnt matter for assa

[odd pumice]

Do you keep crimson tempest up on ST when you're spec'd into it?

[sharp wadi]

doesn't matter what stats the item you catalyse has it just turns to tier stats afaik

[kindred hinge]

Boralus spy glass first vault... wrong line 😦 At least t he knife is there

[crisp stream]

@balmy condor sims show this from vault, and i have arakara* equipped, worth taking that trinket from vault?

[sharp wadi]

wouldn't have been possible for it to be in a different line my brotha

[balmy condor]

it's a good trinket, why not

[crisp stream]

thanks man, asked cause i have arakara m0 trink as well. was thinking if i should wait

[cobalt sphinx]

missed a timer and got 2 pieces

is that new

[balmy condor]

don't think so

[waxen oyster]

wasnt it always just a lower chance

[coarse portal]

Anyone know if raidbot is simming trinkets accurately? Or does it make sense that lower ilvl detachable fang and scroll of momentum sims higher than ovi'nax's mercurial egg or sikran's endless assault?

[balmy condor]

it is accurate

[versed mica]

Looking at an html report, it looks like the pet on this dagger isn't included in the sim

[magic ginkgo]

pretty juiced first vault

[versed mica]

Makes sense seeing you can only get it once a year I guess

[scarlet wyvern]

trinket and dagger

[crisp stream]

eu is pumping

[faint path]

I have 619 dagger and 610 dagger already trinket is not even showing big upgrade 😄

[scarlet wyvern]

oh okay

[short ledge]

anyone know if the riual knife and ara kara trinket are still bis ?

[stuck knoll]

I told you Seli just loot it from vault

[marble hemlock]

cloak on alt rogue

[stuck knoll]

Waking up now to check

[marble hemlock]

GL king

[jaunty dew]

mmmm

[pulsar apex]

this sims ok. im terms of feel; the haste during DM/KB.. is going to give me a little more energy that it?

[jaunty dew]

I already have 1 versa dagger

Should I get a 2nd one

Or hc chest piece

[balmy condor]

I mean haste makes your dots tick faster which is directly a damage buff

you don't need energy during deathmark though

deathmark duplicating bleeds gives you back insane energy

[crisp stream]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[pulsar apex]

aha. ty Whisp. It's the only decent option for me this week so its happening.

[balmy condor]

not the worst option

[bold jetty]

is that neck bis?

or just go for tierset

[queen egret]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[stuck knoll]

@marble hemlock

[hallow pelican]

thats BiS ... get the neck

[zealous wolf]

hybrid is the go to build for m+ right?

[noble flume]

https://gyazo.com/b7596d0d4fcd08c9ea597d51fd6405a8

i should neck?

[bold jetty]

y

[jaunty dew]

Yes

[queen egret]

anyone else who cant see any groups in groupfinder?

[stuck tree]

hey all im learnin assa and did some m+ but was gettin overwhelmed with upkeeping rupture in aoe settings without vanish/on opener. is it usually worth it to tab target and rupture like 4 or 5 mobs before you start to send it or is that too long?

[balmy vapor]

how much dps increase is our 2set and 4set?