assassination

[novel star]

and we cant go ct

[stuck sentinel]

I'd wait for vault before doing anything

[novel star]

so we kinda just have shit add damage on rash

[hearty coral]

how long till servers up

[stuck sentinel]

44minutes

[novel star]

iff the adds are giga important on mythic itll stay sub/outlaw there too

cus we cant just go spatter and vibe

[hearty coral]

i have 2 sparks.. what i should craft? im 578 :v

[novel star]

have to make bigger talent sacrifices

[stuck sentinel]

oliii aint loyal

he aint a true sinner

[novel star]

just being realistic

[bleak spoke]

WC logs is down my entertainment is gone NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[novel star]

my ass is gonna play ib on rasha for the entire tier

and aint NOONE speccing ct for it

[spice spire]

Mf how about you entertain some bitches

[stuck sentinel]

even the heroic version of rash aint too bad

[bleak spoke]

i'm entertaining you right now

[stuck sentinel]

mythic* from what ive seen

[spice spire]

Damn.

[bleak spoke]

you can't get parried on rashanan, so automatically makes it better yeah

the flying away thing is so awkward

you have to jump to hit it

kinda

i miss acro

[royal depot]

Hi guys, is quicksim bugged? It is showing too low damage for me, I deal more to dummy than it shows (always was the other way around lol)

[waxen oyster]

Seems most the difficulty of this raid

[spice spire]

Do you have it set on target dummy

[waxen oyster]

is condensed into last 3

[royal depot]

Yup it is set to patchwerk

[bleak spoke]

nexus princess might be very very hard on m

silken court might be harder

[spice spire]

That is not target dummy

[waxen oyster]

yeah nexus court ansurel

[cobalt sphinx]

i wonder if the enrage timer will be super tight

[spice spire]

Patchwerk gives all your buffs

[waxen oyster]

rest seem a bit minimal

[spice spire]

Target dummy does not

[novel star]

patchwerk gives u zoldyck etc

[bleak spoke]

ansurek has 5 bounces on p1 instead of 2, according to the dungeon journal

[novel star]

is the big diff i think

[spice spire]

But that’s even worse because

You should be lower than standard pw

[bleak spoke]

but tbh with regards to ansurek it's like sh'es gonna change so much between now and when anyone not racing pulls it

it's hard to say

[waxen oyster]

Sub is also getting dust removed

by the time many get to her

[distant plinth]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[low kernel]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[dense talon]

where can i get the list of all theses !commands? like !fuuu !crafttt etc?

[spice spire]

There isn’t one

[vale shore]

just do random words, record what works

[spice spire]

Just gotta randomly find out ye

[strange python]

Hey guys!
I’m looking to get some help with assassination rogue. I’ve read the stuff on wowhead and icy veins but I’m still a bit confused

[vale shore]

rogue-related words of course

[spice spire]

What are you confused on homie

[slate crown]

Wowhead and IV are good sources, but feel free to ask your questions here.

[cerulean walrus]

[vale shore]

stab things until they stop moving

[spice spire]

Dog are you good?

[distant plinth]

Whats the "best" craft if you want to raid as sub and assa in keys?

[vale shore]

I am better than good. I am a rogue!

[spice spire]

Oh so ur cooked got it

[vale shore]

!cook

[cerulean walrus]

God you’re so real for that

I could kiss you

[spice spire]

I’d assume dawnthread

[vale shore]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[spice spire]

But idk sub

[spice spire]

Promises

[earnest remnant]

just send ascension tbh

they all suck

[vale shore]

the existence of a sub rogue implies the existence of the dom rogue

[strange python]

So my goal is to focus mythics and I’m not sure what talent tree I should be basing my stuff off of that I saw in wowhead.
Another thing I’ve been awful at is picking up the rotation but maybe I’ll make more sense if I have the right talent tree specs

[spice spire]

From the words of the man himself

[vale shore]

which is assassin

[wild shale]

So are we slowly becoming cars now?

[cerulean walrus]

Echoing Reprimand is my favorite car term

[spice spire]

Deathstalker m+ is best

[remote trellis]

theres not really a difference between crafting the writhing banding on waist compared to the wrist right?

[vale shore]

yeah my echoing reprimand broke on my honda, super expensive to fix

[strange python]

Thank u

[raw cedar]

What's the most up to date rotation guide? I think I am missing something and I dont understand what on my own

[vale shore]

mutilate, envenom, keep garrote and rupture up, push slice n dice at the beginning

stack your cooldowns

[slate crown]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[slate crown]

Up to date ^

[spice spire]

Wowhead is fine IV is too

[cerulean walrus]

Quake just dunking on the Method guide okay

Real for that too

[spice spire]

Yeah and

[cerulean walrus]

So real oomfie

[raw cedar]

that's what I am doing, just don't feel like the dmg is there

[vale shore]

what do you feel like you are missiing?

real talk, no spec tops meters every fight

no matter your gear or skill level

[novel star]

wowhead guide is always going to be the best one yeh

icy isnt updated as much and method kinda lacks information imo ><

[dense talon]

two questions:

1. coming out of stealth, once i rupture three targets, I am not losing combo points and am able to use rupture immediately. Which talent node is providing me with this?
2. If a tank is chain pulling, i am not able to go into stealth to get IC buff. How do you guys manage in such scenarios? do u spend next 20 secs trying to get rupture of on all the targets of the new pack?

[cloud yew]

1. serrated bone spike

[normal mist]

2. 5 targets

[vale shore]

indiscriminate carnage is spreading your bleeds

including bone spike

[cerulean walrus]

You rupture and the bone spike goes out

Refills your shit

And you slap it again

[vale shore]

its fantastic

[novel star]

no IC rupture spreading doesnt take even close to 20 seconds and you arent supposed to rupture the whole pack, just 5 of them

for scent of blood + energy

then cranking spatter envenoms and maintaining CT does more

[vale shore]

caustic spatter will do most of your damage in packs, the blood spreading is for energy generations

you can approach or surpass 2 mil dps if you find a high health mob and Deathmark/King's bane on them

[cerulean walrus]

Only 2m?

[vale shore]

the rest of the group's jaws will drop and regard you with quiet awe

[novel star]

i hit like a 3.1 milly in stonevault a couple days ago

[cerulean walrus]

Nah man we 3m on some of these my man

[vale shore]

I said surpass!

[novel star]

but yeah ct and caustic are always gonna be the most damage

rupture is a means 2 an end

[vale shore]

if the pack is still alive when the ruptures and garrotes start falling off, vanish and re-spread them

[eager gazelle]

are we going for full coverage of kingsbane window with our thistle tea buff? or how do we use all 3 charges typically

[vale shore]

I just use it when I get impatient with my energy

which is often

I might be a thistle tea addict

[sullen dust]

wait so we double rupture in aoe? not rupture -> crimson tempest -> envenom?

[eager gazelle]

yeah I definitely am wasting part of the energy gain when I tea during KB in the opener, feels wrong to do

[vale shore]

you want rupture on as much of the pack as possible

up to 5

[strange python]

let me innnnnn wanna slam dem keys

When you are applying Garrotte and rupture to stuff so you have to individually target each thing for that?
I am obnoxiously out of the loop so please forgive me

[spice spire]

There’s help for that big dog

[cerulean walrus]

The first step is acknowledging you have a problem

[raw cedar]

Possibly something with deathstalker, if that’s something that we need to do. I have bad trinkets, but great gear otherwise. I really don’t know, just a feeling that I’m missing something

[spice spire]

From stealth indiscriminate carnage helps

[vale shore]

you spread with indiscrimate carnage

[slate crown]

You should use it in the opener to get it on cooldown. Use it with your initial Kingsbane cast.

[spice spire]

Out of stealth yes it’s one by one

[dense talon]

yup. I meant to say get rupture on 5 targets in the new pack. Do we just aim at getting the ruptures off (be it 2/3 CP) or do we try to get 5 CP+ ruptures on the new 5 targets?
when we get chain pulled into the next mob, is getting caustic running asap a priority or the 5 ruptures?

[slate crown]

Then, just "Use tea for energy during shiv"

that's it

don't use it outside of shiv

and use it if you need energy, during shiv

[eager gazelle]

ok so it isn't about the mastery buff, just the energy gain

[slate crown]

Well it's about both

[eager gazelle]

well yea, but prio the energy gain more

[vale shore]

thistle tea will passively use charges next patch, you might even be able to take it off your bar

[slate crown]

You just want to use the mastery buff during the windows it matters more, same with energy

which is during shiv

[spice spire]

I’d never drop my X keybind

[eager gazelle]

I think getting below 30 energy is trolling, is it not?>

[small tendon]

anyone wanna tell me if ass is better now than DF. I feltl ike in DF it was annoying having my dps be so low if the tank decided to chainpull

[eager gazelle]

surely you don't ever auto cast it after the patch

[cerulean walrus]

You can make me your X keybind

[normal mist]

i feel like that was a skill issue

not a spec issue

[spice spire]

Buddy I’m already dealing with emotional baggage on one X! Can’t have two!

[stuck sentinel]

i'm 602 and my sim for training dummy is 565k lmao

[small tendon]

it didnt happen much but it was annoying having to deal with

[cerulean walrus]

It’s me or the thistle tea honey

You gotta choose

[eager gazelle]

definitely something wrong with your sim

[normal mist]

are you simming with buffs?

[eager gazelle]

link it

[onyx gyro]

should i hold off on crafts/embellishing wrist/waist till top crests or get the heroic crests and upgrade them later?

[normal mist]

not really

[strange python]

Target dummy sim is no buffs

[subtle tundra]

were we really that bad?

[onyx gyro]

we are not a guild that will be in mythic for a while

[strange python]

And always 100% health

[subtle tundra]

warcraft logs showed something else...

really weird

[strange python]

HUH

when did that happen

[cerulean walrus]

It’s the boss it’s the boss

[eager gazelle]

finally blizzard makes a good change for once

[strange python]

Oh man I got baited

[cerulean walrus]

But feel free to keep thinking it’s you

I won’t judge

[strange python]

Im playing sub dw

Never thought it’s me

[cerulean walrus]

Gross

[strange python]

[cerulean walrus]

[strange python]

No you are doing this wrong

We are supposed to

Hate outlaw

[spice spire]

Real

[robust scaffold]

How can anyone hate outlaw it has guns it whips out the back pocket

[strange python]

Have you looked in that channel

[lapis scaffold]

Sauce?

[subtle tundra]

wowhead

[normal mist]

no sauce

he's trolling

[novel star]

[subtle tundra]

seethe

[clever topaz]

maint extended AAAAAA

[novel star]

1 more hour of vault edging

[stuck sentinel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wdKBF3Reerx4MfJpkMjJ4E

[strange python]

They just pushed mythic changes

Was clear they are gonna extend

[eager gazelle]

can someone explain the ideal use of vanish with deathstalker? obviously I want to use it to get improved garrote during deathmark, but where do I ideally want to be in the deathstalker mark/darkest night cycle when I vanish and ambush?

[slate crown]

A) you can unspec imp garrote

then B) use vanish to reapply mark when you have darkest night

[shy creek]

They never DONT extend

[slate crown]

so you get the mark back up

but also C)

B) above is bugged and doesn't work

[worn badger]

lies it was up early last week

[slate crown]

So C) is Just hold vanish and don't use it unless you lose your mark

so you get your mark back, just utility to save yourself

OR D) play fatebound

[eager gazelle]

ok good to know, ty for your help appreciate you

[shy creek]

For every like 5 maintenaces they do, 1/5 comes up on time it feels like LOL

[spice spire]

Change your first trinket

[grim jay]

I actually feel like it was bugged before and they tried to fix it with this, which is a bad solution aswell, especially for sub

[spice spire]

Dummies don’t proc the extra ability

[gritty laurel]

spec out of improved garrote, spec into dashing scoundrel and VV, save vanish for when mark falls off due to weird shit, turn brain off like me

[spice spire]

Also Acro?

[slate crown]

??

[spice spire]

Dude I copy builds

Idk what we use

My brain is off this tier

[vale shore]

you can still use vanish for improved garrote if you know the fight and are sure the boss isnt going to jump up on a platform or something

[spice spire]

But

I do know he’s missing several hundred thousand dps on dummy compared to raid

[subtle tundra]

buddy ive been searching
wowhead assa rogue
wowhead ret pala
wowhead ww monk
to copy builds for each boss

[spice spire]

Honestly

Just did that for egg boss

[worn badger]

boo 1 hour delay on launcher now =/

[spice spire]

Outside of that swap beteeen caustic and IB

[faint path]

Guys how can I make macro for deathmark and skardyn's trinket when I press once I wanna use both

[vale shore]

yeah that is usually the only change I make in raids

[grim jay]

imagine NA guys getting so hyped about beta testing for a day

[vale shore]

we want to open our vault presents!

[stuck sentinel]

we just want our vault blood

[worn badger]

my adhd has me addicted to anything new, even alpha testing

[eager gazelle]

#showtooltip
/cast Deathmark
/use 13
/use 14

13 is first trinket slot, 14 is second

[vale shore]

you forgot to show tooltip!

[stuck sentinel]

i'm only on heroic brood I cant even start mythic just started the raid on saturday

[grim jay]

I stopped being excited for vault a long time ago

[eager gazelle]

ok sorry fix for you

[lapis scaffold]

#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast Deathmark
/use 13

[stuck sentinel]

I somewhat have good luck tbh

[worn badger]

but we have a third row of pve to be disapointed by! just at a higher ilvl

[gentle apex]

Me when my vault has your mother as an option

[grim jay]

lucky you. I usually get tier pieces and sockets

[vale shore]

a high level disappointment is more exciting than a low level "BIS"!

[worn badger]

true

[cobalt sphinx]

i was using this in pvp and i would pop my pvp trinket with my cds

[lapis scaffold]

I don't have proofs, but I have crit for 16Mil using a normal version of the Mad Queen's Mandate

[grim jay]

yeah can happen

trinket is insane

[vale shore]

was it during a double damage phase on council?

[grim jay]

as far as single hits go

[lapis scaffold]

No, it wasn't during double damage, which is even crazier

[vale shore]

weird

[lapis scaffold]

but it was in a raid, so lots of modifiers going on

[vale shore]

maybe it is scaling strangely?

[spice spire]

Modifier? I hardly know er!

No queens trinket kinda nuts

I could see it

[vale shore]

back in Castle Nathria, entropic embrace, the void elf racial was my top damage ability on huntmaster due to weird scaling

[spice spire]

Oh god during his dam phase

[iron valve]

I just put my dps on use on 13 always and my pvp on use on 14 and macro /use 13

[spice spire]

[gentle apex]

double on use

[lapis scaffold]

I was like

[gentle apex]

couldn't be me

[lapis scaffold]

But then I was like

[gentle apex]

30s internal cd

[spice spire]

Double on use is okay if it’s like

Random big thicc em hit

And stat boost out the wazoo

[cobalt sphinx]

apparently the concoction kiss of death is off the shared cd?

anyone got one

[iron valve]

yeah, for now anyway

[spice spire]

Because big thicc hit is agnostic on timing so it’s just like

[gentle apex]

nah I'm 100% hard farming for the necrolord trinket for T H R E E poisons

[spice spire]

Whatever another cd

[crisp stream]

fam, what is the neck, ring extra socket thing called?

[spice spire]

It’s white listed on all our stuff

[cobalt sphinx]

magnificent jew

[spice spire]

But it is technically a poison

[past forum]

i was using double on use week 1 cause i had no better options XD and it was the "turn into a spider" trinket and "you get stunned if you dont cancel it" trinket

[spice spire]

That’s an unfortunate cut off

[cobalt sphinx]

it works in my auction house search

[gentle apex]

my server has PvP gems at 10k, crazy how much gold i'm making on god

[wanton spear]

that third row of unusable higher ilvl gear is just for catalyst

[lofty orbit]

hey,.. is there anyone who can help me to find a way to play my rouge again with only one hand able to use?

[lapis scaffold]

man I really wish the "turn into a spider" trinket didn't have a casttime, its a sick trinket

[tired gull]

"unusable" buddy i still have a 580 piece

[spice spire]

AMEN

[vale shore]

I have a heroic "Turn into spider" trinket, its pretty great, only behind raid trinkets by 1 or 2%

[spice spire]

Neck and chest

[tired gull]

neck SAME BFF

[spice spire]

I’m the Michael Jordan of getting cloaks from tier 8 bountiful delves

[lapis scaffold]

the cast time kinda ruins it for me

[vale shore]

its a second and a half!

[gentle apex]

I'm the donald trump of crafting professions

[tired gull]

i got 5 of the exact same cloak, and like 8 total cloaks yeah i feel

[vale shore]

barely more than a global!

[wanton spear]

i hated puzzbox last expansion, i still hate it now

[spice spire]

Puzzlebox forever a goat

I will not accept pb slander

[gentle apex]

bro I want IQD back so fuckign bad bro that shit was so goooooooood

[lapis scaffold]

Im the guy who DPS moving left and right due to my PvP background from back then, I just cant stop

[runic hinge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1232770176571805697/puzzlebox.gif

[wanton spear]

at least puzzbox didn't break you of stealth on use

[worn badger]

i want hand of justice back and combat daggers -.

[gentle apex]

IQD giving dps players a lay on hands is cracked

[wanton spear]

why the fk does it keep autocorrecting puzzle to puzzbox

[hollow moss]

how do you craft the 610 pvp weapons again?

[tired gull]

get the pvp marks, craft rank 5

[worn badger]

kill baby tortollans to get pvp marks

[gentle apex]

SERVERS UP

[lofty orbit]

can i please ask for help?

[wanton spear]

don't craft pvp weapons

finish the quest this week

[spice spire]

PB IC (season 1) Garrote > Rupture > fan > CT

[normal mist]

Yes

[hollow moss]

i got the marks, how do i use them?

[normal mist]

wont be this week

[lapis scaffold]

Ban 1/10

[gentle apex]

speak

[spice spire]

Real or

[placid adder]

banned

[tired gull]

Algari Competitor's Dagger i believe

[balmy vapor]

anyone has the thistle tea macro

[vale shore]

LIES!

[balmy vapor]

cant find it

[wanton spear]

@normal mist i only need 1k conq to finish it

[spice spire]

One hand rogue would be very hard

[novel star]

there is no thistle tea macro cause youre not supposed to macro it

youll just end up wasting energy

[vale shore]

its going to passively use charges soon

[lapis scaffold]

if you must put it in a macro, put it with Shiv

[novel star]

current implementation consumes a charge but also still has an active

so youll still use it manually and not macro it

w that change

[vale shore]

I know

[strange python]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[novel star]

doesnt do anything

[worn badger]

so, what does everyone else do when they are waiting for energy to pool outside of shiv windows ? i had to bind a key just to press something =/

[vale shore]

just wait for energy to pool

[normal mist]

i jump

[lapis scaffold]

make sure evneom is up and wait

[vale shore]

it wont kill you

[tired gull]

scratch my earlobe

[novel star]

i wait and look at the bigwigs timers

[spice spire]

Mechanics

[hollow compass]

!pool

[vale shore]

take a breath, enjoy the spectacle of the fight

[spice spire]

[past forum]

take a breath and lock the f in

[novel star]

^ this

[balmy vapor]

I should always do shiv + thistle tea + kingsbane right

[lapis scaffold]

or you can play fury warrior and never have to wait again

[novel star]

only if the tea wont overcap energy

[lofty orbit]

is there any way someone can help me to find a way to play my rouge again with ony one hand?

[past forum]

(i get up to stretch because i'm old)

[vale shore]

I reverse the order, to ensure full coverage

[worn badger]

mechanincs just kinda happen i dont have to think about those

[undone eagle]

Lets all agree sin rogue is 1# ❤️

[worn badger]

i need buttons to press or i lose track

[cinder quartz]

you can do shiv->kb->re-shiv after it drops->tea

[novel star]

wdym

[undone eagle]

Btw can a mod make my role name red please i prefer sin>sub kek

[novel star]

you can do that manually look at channels & roles on the topleft

[vale shore]

https://www.specfictionshop.com/products/world-of-warcraft-valeera-sanguinar-1-3-scale-statue-1?srsltid=AfmBOoqbXALZYG3GBNbyHPjnoBan1sG_bdBfHzN6vOfItYSRSOwYdxrL
You will need this statue

[undone eagle]

oi oi oi baka ty

[spice spire]

This would be a very niche request since it’s not a thing for many people to have to do .

[lapis scaffold]

double agent

[balmy vapor]

do you play with lightweight shiv talent in m+?

[novel star]

no

i mean you can but you usually dont

[worn badger]

thats some crazy detail for a statue

[lapis scaffold]

oh boy

[cinder quartz]

if you have 1 shiv and you don't need shiv for a soothe mechanic, you'd preferably shiv on the latter half of KB

[worn badger]

also, how did Anduin go into depression with her as his "personal rogue"

[balmy vapor]

but Im assuming I should use thistle tea with kb in my aoe opener always?

[lapis scaffold]

This would be a nice exp to bring Valeera back, only me?

[vale shore]

shes in it

shes playing hearthstone with Millhouse

she gives mages a new polymorph

[undone eagle]

totally agree lol

[worn badger]

she will be back in whichever expansion brings back the sunwell and become queen of the restored high elves

[lapis scaffold]

Well, we see Lilian Voss (Which is kinda OK) but would prefer valeera

[novel star]

you use tea during openers just so youre not capped on charges yeah

but tea in aoe is kinda just a press it whenever thing tbh

the energy doesnt matter

[gentle apex]

for a song called "piano man" this guy with the harmonica will not shut the fuck up

[novel star]

you want charges for bossfights when it does matter but

[spice spire]

[gentle apex]

are there canon assassin rogues other than valeera

[novel star]

me

[worn badger]

garona

[cinder quartz]

"PLAY ME A SONG, YOU'RE THE PIANO MAN"
yeah man that's my fucking job, don't worry, i'll play some songs

[vale shore]

what is Lilian Voss?

[iron valve]

valeera is currently chilling in a bar playing strip poker with millhouse, not even joking

[worn badger]

lillian is sub

[polar timber]

shaw

[vale shore]

Shaw is sub

[upper spear]

just to clarify, we echo rep on CD, theres no line windows to be sensitive around? if it lines with KB cool, if not its whatever

[iron valve]

she's also an arena brawler rogue, not at all an assassin

[vale shore]

hes the sub talent tree pic

[worn badger]

shaw is the last remainin combat rogue

[lapis scaffold]

The whole SI7 are bunch of Sub emo bois

[vale shore]

then why is he on the sub pic?

[novel star]

yeah, you cant guarantee when you land on an ER point so theres no reason to hold it

just slam that shit

[polar timber]

ya true i didnt read the sin part 🙂

[spice spire]

Yeah Shaw always seemed like a bottom to me too

[worn badger]

cause that art is from the lazy blizzard era , but thats just my head cannon

[lapis scaffold]

Was there ever a non-lazy blizzard era?

[vale shore]

Flynn is back! He should be the Outlaw pic, not Edwin van Cleef!

[spice spire]

Do not ever disrespect the goat

[vale shore]

or at least Vanessa Van Cleef should take over

[spice spire]

Van Cleef my absolute goat

[modern agate]

Anyone listening in on this Liquid twitch channel know what dagger from delves this guy was talking about?

[lapis scaffold]

Vanessa is nothing close to Edwin

[worn badger]

i mean, so far this expansion is significantly less lazy , still a lot to do but yeah

[vale shore]

she had a more interesting arc

[lapis scaffold]

Yes, I have this dagger

[cobalt sphinx]

trinket

[vale shore]

wait, which dagger?

[cobalt sphinx]

ritual dagger

probably

[vale shore]

does it have a cantrip?

[cobalt sphinx]

a what

[vale shore]

a proc

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah negative stats

[gentle apex]

I crafted two siphoning daggers from the raid recipe because they're a DoT effect, I'm farming flayedwing toxin for the DoT effect

[spice spire]

Ritual dagger

[lapis scaffold]

Shadow Binding Ritual Knife

[gentle apex]

let it be known if it exists I am adding that DoT effect to my character

[spice spire]

Siphoning ass tho

[gritty laurel]

i can't decide if i think it's sim bait, and i have dropped every other trinket multiple times so i may never find out

[spice spire]

Shadow dagger is fine

It has one big problem

If it procs during a dm window ur damage is fucked

[vale shore]

thats a trinket

[spice spire]

Watched it happen to a log that otherwise would have been

[woven shore]

Is FUCKING RWF NOW????

Or server down

[gritty laurel]

yep, that's why i want to try it and see, alas i will keep pulling capes and useless trinkets

[spice spire]

When servers live

[woven shore]

Telll meeee

[novel star]

servers are down for 40 min but then yeha

[spice spire]

They’re down

[gentle apex]

@woven shore it's down like the syndrome brother

[novel star]

id imagine splits first tho right

[gentle apex]

[novel star]

or do they just have enough to raw dog at this point

[woven shore]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha

[spice spire]

No

[woven shore]

Motherfucker

[spice spire]

They definitely just

[woven shore]

Thats a nice one

[worn badger]

ok, new random question time, which expansion would make the best Anime adaptation ?

[spice spire]

Split

For the next 5 days probably

[woven shore]

Its down like the syndrome

You are fucked bro

[spice spire]

None

[runic hinge]

takes one to know one

[woven shore]

[spice spire]

Buddy I’d be topping ur dog ass rn

Shut ur beautiful lips or I’ll shut them with mine

[gentle apex]

sorry i have to be politically correct the servers are "developmentally disabled"

[worn badger]

wow, guys take it to grindr chat

[runic hinge]

[pulsar apex]

Get a room dudes

[spice spire]

Grindr? I hardly know her!

[raven sonnet]

anyone got talents for hc queen?

[spice spire]

(That’s the point of the app)

[woven shore]

People on grindr dont know da wae

Not the straight way

[gentle apex]

I just got word from jesus christ in a vision that the servers are coming up in the next 10 minutes

if i'm wrong i will cashapp anyone who sees this message a dollar

[novel star]

surely they come up a full 30 minutes before the stated time

[spice spire]

CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMjZmhZmxyMAAAAAAMbwyMAAAAAA022MzwDMzYMzMLz2MjxMYYmZGzsZZMDwmZZgBsEsMMBGWA

[novel star]

ur fuckin spitting tbh

[cerulean compass]

Hi, can someone help me, when I'm trying to pool, I struggling, I keep low energy cause sanguine blade to evenom but seems that I got an issue of getting 70% of energy for my next kingsbane 🤔

[spice spire]

(I copied wowhead)

[novel star]

are you mashing envenom or playing for the buff

but also idk pooling is just pooling you do nothing and it happens on its own

[gritty laurel]

you can also drop sanguine if playing DS to make energy management easier if you're too twitchy on the trigger finger

[novel star]

pooling is when u make the decision to sac envenom uptime

cant do both xd

[polar sinew]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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[hollow moss]

what embel are we using?

[gentle apex]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[novel star]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[novel star]

fuck

[woven shore]

Thats from the mushrooms mofoker

[gentle apex]

HA

[novel star]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[novel star]

default to 2x dawnthread

make ascension banding combo if you get fucked

is the tldr

[hollow moss]

thanks friend

[gentle apex]

https://skribbl.io/?iHCQxJwC

[polar sinew]

does Whispyr's 11.0 Plater works with threat plate or name plate pls ?

[gentle apex]

lets gooo

[keen glade]

Hello guys , what do you recommend ? Maybe craft dagger?

[acoustic roost]

sure why not

[vale shore]

without even checking your vault

[cerulean compass]

I'm playing the buff

[lapis scaffold]

Wait your vault, and I'd stil craft belt and bracers, but personal preference

[novel star]

what was your issue exactly then? i dont think i quite understand

[gentle apex]

come play skribblio

https://skribbl.io/?iHCQxJwC

[acoustic roost]

spam that in your guild discord 🙂

[vale shore]

sir, this is a rogue channel

maybe people who can draw and spell play rogues, maybe they dont. We dont know, we dont WANT to know. Its a market we can do without!

[ornate eagle]

Mans wants to play with his sneaky bois.

[kindred oriole]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cerulean compass]

I have a lack, I'm playing like this : burst with all bleeds, when I don't have burst windows, I just stay under 50% energy to maintain evenom buff and then I go for 70% energy with burst window ? 🤔

[novel star]

the % energy you pool to depends on which hero spec/talents youre running

but idk just maintain the buff until you cant anymore

and then pool energy so you can start the loop again

[cerulean compass]

ohhh

I thought I needed to pool to 70% then loop

Like pooling and maintaining buffs

[fallen arch]

I don’t think chaining is that important anymore

[spice rapids]

Question: How do you deal with the Underkeep boss, he puts void down, and casts Webs.
Shadowstep in to interrupt and I die, I could Blind, but he'll break out of that. Ideas welcome.

[fallen arch]

Just try to mantain as much env uptime as possible

[novel star]

yeh

u just pool when ur fully dry on energy and thats not possible anymore

[vale shore]

use cloak of shadows!

[cerulean compass]

you mean env buff ?

[balmy condor]

No

[novel star]

i was lied to!

[slate crown]

oh damn I was wrong

[cerulean compass]

Because if I resume, we just play around deathstalker's to blast on kingsbane window right ?

[balmy condor]

Zold is the one thing it doesn’t work with

[sonic swallow]

Hey, I had a quick question if anyone could answer it for me... is sanguine blades just a passive when I am above 50% energy? Or an addition to my cast if I cast one of those dots while above 50% like feral druid bite thanks in advance

[spice spire]

Back to inconsistencies damn.

[novel star]

now how about zoldyck and ds damage

[vale shore]

passive, not a snapshot

[novel star]

does ds damage work with fucking anything man

[balmy condor]

It’s calculated every tick

[balmy condor]

Yeah ofc

[sonic swallow]

So it just does 30% more and steal energy cool

[vale shore]

its using energy!

not stealing

[sonic swallow]

Is this a high priority? Or just do it if no other dot is down?

[novel star]

you dont play around sanguine blades ever really

[fallen arch]

Yes

[novel star]

other than actively avoiding it when you're deathstalker

[sonic swallow]

I see that it's good. But I probably shouldn't sacrifice anything else for it

[vale shore]

its good for using all the excess energy you are generating in AOE packs

[sonic swallow]

What does this mean?

Let me double check the builds I swear I saw it

[novel star]

deathstalker needs to spend as many finishers(envenoms) as possible to keep cycling the mark for big payoff

being above 50% energy = sanguine leeching ur resources = less total casts = less total mark pops = cock

[sonic swallow]

Isn't that more of a singletarget thing tho?

[gritty laurel]

single target is a choose your own adventure experience right now, you can unspec from sanguine entirely as DS

[novel star]

yeah

in aoe you also dont play around sanguine because it just happens on its own since u have inf energy

[sonic swallow]

I had thought in aoe u just tryed to keep the dot rolling but it wasn't high peio outside or cds

[vale shore]

you definitely want to make sure you use the last charge and get darknest night before any boss phases that take him out of range

[gritty laurel]

in aoe you have basically infinite energy if you just upkeep scent anyway

[balmy condor]

In aoe you don’t care about sanguine because you’re dotting like 5-6 things and your energy is above 50% anyway

[novel star]

press some teas once in a while i guess go ham idk fuck around

aoe is freaky frog business

[glacial crypt]

frog business

[sonic swallow]

So it's cool to know about but not a high priority... in st I don't think we even talent it

[novel star]

more like freaky frog type business than freaky type frog business

but hell yeah

[sonic swallow]

Thank you

[novel star]

the imp garrote + sanguine build and VV build are almost identical on deathstalker atm and come down to a damage profile decision

[glacial crypt]

frog business has me giggling more than it should

[novel star]

if u badly need burst imp garrote and shit is better for that

[nova aspen]

r u guys letting ur vault cook a bit or just opening it raw

[novel star]

but i dont think that really applies anywhere except ansurek

so

[novel star]

whole hog

[iron valve]

give it a little tease with a couple false opens first

[nova aspen]

oh thats dirty

[slate crown]

Ima let it simmer while I check the AH first

[half tartan]

Is fatebound a good amount weaker for M+ / aoe content?

[novel star]

not really

theyre both close in everything

!hero is still accurate

[prisma monolith]

Both Hero Talents are viable in all content, and are within 2-5% of each other.
Fatebound: Instant damage, is easy to play, can remove some buttons from the rotation, little to no added gameplay
Deathstalker: Introduces gameplay, Singular focus adds big priority damage, suffers from bugs and marks being hard to juggle in easy content like heroic/m0 dungeons

[cobalt sphinx]

@gentle apex you see me with the GRAMOPHONE

human thesaurus

[novel star]

fatebound has better aoe, DS has better prio

[gentle apex]

literal god

[cobalt sphinx]

you had really good drawings

i'm on a fucking trackpad

[gentle apex]

right but the top fatebound parses are 100k smaller

[modern agate]

where is my dollar

[novel star]

parses dont mean shit right now because of popularity 🙃

[gentle apex]

where is your cashapp

[warped jackal]

if 2 target i use fan of knife instead of muti ?

[novel star]

only on m+ deathstalker

builds

[earnest remnant]

Parses dont mean shit*

[warped jackal]

what about raid ?

[earnest remnant]

there fixed it for you

[novel star]

yeah but they EXTRA dont mean shit

for the fb ds thing

[vale shore]

parses let you know you are playing the spec correctly

[gritty laurel]

DS has better defensives, so top players are probably leaning in that direction for that reason, leaving a gap in parses

[earnest remnant]

not always

[vale shore]

if its grey, you are doing something wrong

[runic hinge]

yeah i was drunk as hell for my raid and i got all purples so idk

[gentle apex]

@modern agate i even looked up jordskii coward

[empty lagoon]

Hey when guides talk about chaining multiple Envenoms back to back. Does that mean that I only want to press Envenom once every 6 sec to alwys have the buff up. And I just make sure not to over cap on combo points and energy? Or do I want to press envenom more?

[novel star]

yes

you only mash envenom for the instant damage in cooldowns

[vale shore]

well, you want to capitalize off having envenom buff up too

[past forum]

idk ass is probably one of the top picks for specs to do well on while drunk. you often have a couple seconds to snap out of it and lock back in

[gritty laurel]

i too like ass when drunk

wait

[gentle apex]

honestly chops for being the only rogue to join

[runic hinge]

yeah, remembering to pool and drinking some hard tea irl

[novel star]

https://x.com/BlizzardCS/status/1836098596959326363

Blizzard CS - The Americas (@BlizzardCS) on X

[#WarWithin] Current maintenance has been extended until 12:00 PM (PDT). We apologize for any disruption and hope to restore service quickly.

Twitter · Sep 17, 2024, 5:43 PM

let's fucking go baby

anotha hour

thats tight

[gritty laurel]

it's not tuesday until the maintenance hits 8 hours

[slate crown]

this is only a good thing for all the people stuck at work

and if you're not stuck at work

??? go vibe what are you doing here

[balmy condor]

fixing transmitter apparently

[slate crown]

I'm so sorry

[proven jasper]

True winning atm

[vivid crown]

but what if i like to play at work

[hollow compass]

does non-lethal poison affect the damage we do ? like i dont wanna use crippling poison because of the slow or do i need to use it if it does so i deal more damage?

[short comet]

I’m not off until 3 central give her another hour baby

[gritty laurel]

i'm working from home sitting on a pointless meeting, this is at least as productive

[slate crown]

Then you have a job nice enough to vibe

[vivid crown]

im vibin y'all

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/qeliameow-cat-paw-cats-paw-dance-gif-3807241812430059413

[nova aspen]

truee

half way there

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/agre-cat-nod-gif-22214510

[crimson wigeon]

is there a spreadsheet for what mechanics can be evasioned/cloaked?

[cinder quartz]

what if instead of nerubar palace it was freak palace and instead of ansurek it was xalatath's feet

sorry, vault madness goes kinda crazy

[crisp pine]

Blizzard would never I think

[worn badger]

dam it blizzard stop extending and just finish already...

[haughty lantern]

quick question, i'm trying to make myself a "stepping stone" note. Can anyone inform me of the following values?

• Max ilvl of each crest upgrade (like how carved crests are used to upgrade to 606 ilvl, etc)

• what ilvl is 8/8 champ gear, 6/6 hero gear, and 4/4 myth gear?

[vale shore]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[vale shore]

myth is 6/6 now

639

[haughty lantern]

ah right forgot this spreadsheet existed. ty

[pastel rune]

can we use deadly poison for raids? Are there any changes in the last 2 years 🙂

[novel star]

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[vale shore]

its the ONLY lethal poison you should be using, unless you talent into amplifying

[pastel rune]

in the old days it was consuming debuff slot or sth like that

[vale shore]

that was 19 years ago

[novel star]

that’s like vanilla bro

[haughty lantern]

in the land before time

[novel star]

lot more than 2 years

none of that dumb shit exists anymore

[pastel rune]

thanks a lot

[novel star]

deadly good

dot yummy

yummers

[woven shore]

SERVER UP?????

[cinder quartz]

if you use deadly you're benched for using up debuff slot

[novel star]

delayed another hour no?

[woven shore]

What the fuck

[novel star]

yeh

[woven shore]

Stop lying

[novel star]

unlucky

[woven shore]

Show me

Uck you

They are up

[novel star]

it was already posted in here

[woven shore]

Time to watch rwf

Pooooooggg

Liar

I dont trust you

[woven shore]

😦

Really?

[novel star]

watch what rwf

[woven shore]

Omg

[novel star]

max is playing gartic phone bro

[cinder quartz]

im in idk bout u guys

[eager gazelle]

ban the liars

and the heretics

[woven shore]

It really happend

It really happend

12pm

I called it

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[novel star]

it’s not that serious brotha

[eager gazelle]

just playin bud

[novel star]

u got a chemical addiction to wow or wassup

[eager gazelle]

we all friends here

[pastel rune]

thanks for the save

[novel star]

naw not u ur good

[proven jasper]

We out here havin breakdowns over the servers

[woven shore]

Thank gos

[vale shore]

everyone has all 9 slots in their vault filled for the first time, it takes awhile to make sure every slot is an interesting choice for every player

[woven shore]

God

Bc im still at Work letss gooooo blizzard

[eager gazelle]

work from home gang

rise up

[novel star]

i’m gna make out with the slot goblin

if i get a nice trinket

or something along those lines

[eager gazelle]

/rename "slot goblin"

can anyone help me fix my command?

[haughty lantern]

one letter off from being something real dangerous

[novel star]

i’m making out with the slut goblin too

don’t you worry

[hollow compass]

what embelishment do i use on sin

[novel star]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[cinder quartz]

main with filled up vault of boots versus 560 alt who ratted into 2 delves getting tier

[novel star]

who cares about tier

shits ass

[cinder quartz]

my enhance alt

[mint urchin]

But the set looks fire

[novel star]

ok fair and fair

[mint urchin]

tmog is true endgame

[novel star]

two good points

[eager gazelle]

yeah rogue is eating good with the mog game this teir

good raid set and remastered t2

[haughty lantern]

god i want the lfr set

"Spirit of Halloween"

[novel star]

if only pandaren could wear helmets :(

my girl look so fuckin goofy with that shit on

[dim tundra]

hello, do the talents change when u get 2p or 4p

[novel star]

no

tier is just passive damage

[haughty lantern]

que robby rotten "Free" and russian national anthem

[dim tundra]

tyvm

[novel star]

[glacial crypt]

everything is done and dusted

[midnight atlas]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
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[glacial crypt]

goodluck in vault and raid tomorrow ladies

[shut leaf]

hey guys! How much less dps is FB talents vs DS talents in raid

[glacial crypt]

marginal

[novel star]

in bis fatebound is actually better

for most people with current gear it’s <2% worse

depends on ur stats

[noble hawk]

!tier

[lime crypt]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[noble hawk]

lovely thy

[broken lantern]

which tier set items are the most valuable ones? i got the token from endboss and idk which piece i should get first (i don´t have any piece)

[haughty lantern]

alright i made myself this handy guide

[eager gazelle]

prob wait for second peice at least

[haughty lantern]

Mythic+ Breakpoints

• Champ Track Loot + Carved: 2
• Hero Track Vault + Carved: 3
• Champ Track Loot + Hero Track Vault + Runed: 4
• Hero Track Loot + Hero Track Vault + Runed: 7
• Hero Track Loot + Hero Track Vault + Gilded: 9
• Hero Track Loot + Myth Track Vault + Gilded: 10+

[haughty lantern]

PERSONALLY i am going helm, chest, gloves and pants, so that I can eventually play around with outlaw in addition to sin. (I want to play with the fist weapon + trinket combo)

otherwise i THINK it's helmet/Gloves/pants (since they all have crit/haste/mast) and then whatever piece of shoulders/chest you get to round out the set.

[broken lantern]

thanks! i got helmet and change one of my 610 pieces to another set item

[crude sequoia]

me with chest lacking a 610 item :(

[haughty lantern]

like....we're getting stuck with a piece with vers one way or another. just take whichever one you get first.

[cobalt sphinx]

Vers is better than haste

[tired gull]

sometimes

[novel star]

it depends 🙃

[haughty lantern]

ye

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[cobalt sphinx]

So why single it out

[haughty lantern]

because I am a recovering BM hunter no reason am just being dumb 🫠

[woven shore]

Mythic asurek will come iinn liiikkeee aa wreeeeecking baaaaaall
She wants to break raiders waaaaaallllss

[novel star]

based

for quitting hunter and for admitting to being dumb

me too

not the hunter part

just dumb

[haughty lantern]

GRANTED BM hunter will always be the comfiest and coolest class b/c it is the most customizable (look at my stable)

[gritty laurel]

i'm gonna roll a MM hunter and keep it on ice until dark ranger changes, really iron out all the brain wrinkles

[novel star]

druid forms …

[haughty lantern]

Glyph of Dire Stable instantly gives BM hunter like a million cool points

DRUIDS ARE A CLOSE SECOND

[waxen oyster]

Yeah but do you have the microfrog

[woven shore]

I have a question

[haughty lantern]

but i can't top the meters as a BM hunter and the 2 BM hunters in my guild are...well one of them is cracked but rather than fighting me for the top spot on the meters he's consistently down in like 3-6 (depending on the fight)

[woven shore]

Are they up?

[haughty lantern]

meanwhile i'm fighting off the 2 arcane mages and the afflock

[hexed matrix]

!howdoiwinthelotterysoicanquitmyjobandplaywowallthetime

[woven shore]

[hexed matrix]

damn that one didnt work

[haughty lantern]

I had the druid dreamway puppy AND THEN THEY TOOK IT FROM US

[icy girder]

Servers up?

[haughty lantern]

still have the shaman orderhall quest firelands scorpion tho

[woven shore]

Yes

Cata servers yes

[haughty lantern]

every cool or unique tame, I have (Except Nah'qi and the new Lightning Gryphon)

[woven shore]

[icy girder]

dog

[haughty lantern]

dawg

[waxen oyster]

Yeah but mail mog is rather weak

[haughty lantern]

OH it absolutely is

i've been wearing the same set since fuckin MOP

when i made an entire set around the legendary cape

[waxen oyster]

cm?

oh

[haughty lantern]

I was the first in my guild to get the cape

so i sorta wore it proud

[tired gull]

i like green mog cause poison

[waxen oyster]

Average person I know whos played hunter a long time

uses cm set

with either the wod cm gun

or rhok delar

[haughty lantern]

this is the set i use

(delete in like 2 minutes once everyone gets a looksee)

[waxen oyster]

Yeah that one is ok

[haughty lantern]

i like it b/c it means i don't have to see my own face

and then I use Gon and Horridon b/c I am a dinomancer

[weary shoal]

are we teh weakest perfromer in raids of the rog builds?

[haughty lantern]

no? i thought we were the strongest?

Outlaw afaik pulls ahead in high/beeg cleave scenarios, but it always does that

[weary shoal]

mh almost all bosses have ae fights

[novel star]

outlaw is cranking atm, sub and sin are around the same i think

[twin bolt]

hey guys, how hard is assa right now to play in m+ and should i theoretically be outperforming outlaws?

[haughty lantern]

i currently have 2nd billing for the fist weapon (our ww monk got the trinket and our havoc dh got the fist weapon, so i'm 2nd in line for each of those)

if I can go back to outlaw and still be on top in both St and Cleave i'll be a pirate again

[gentle apex]

It's very easy and who cares assa is fun

[novel star]

depends on the pull but sin aoe is pretty good rn

[vivid crown]

extended aoe yeah

[novel star]

it’s hard in the sense that it’s kinda unintuitive

[vivid crown]

burst poopoo but yeah

[warped belfry]

Hard is relative to if you know the rotation its not hard to execute

[gentle apex]

it's literally garrote garrote rupture rupture FoK crimson dance

You have great execute

[zinc frost]

Dance?

[gentle apex]

nono like the finisher

crimson vortex? crimson bladeS?

[weary shoal]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cinder quartz]

tempest

[warped belfry]

tempest

lol

[gentle apex]

anyway

[warped belfry]

DUNNO IF I TRUST YOU NOW

😄

[tired gull]

crimson vortex

[twin bolt]

okay, its just i see outlaws everwhere in raids. and because there are some adds i always though that outlaws would be also outperforming assa in m+. but i see thats maybe not the case?

[gentle apex]

I HIT THE BUTTON THE METER GOES UP

[cinder quartz]

crimson maelstrom

[warped belfry]

Crimson BLOOOOOD

[gentle apex]

crimson CRAYON

[novel star]

sin is better in longer/bigger pulls

[haughty lantern]

Caustic Spatter go splort

[past forum]

king crimson

[warped belfry]

I have a hard time not calling it Caustic Splatter

[twin bolt]

so after the nerfs assa should be even more ahead in higher m+ content?

[haughty lantern]

it's b/c we give the L to other specs

[warped belfry]

bwaha

[vivid crown]

stuff dies super fast rn. higher keys, more hp, longer aoe packs sin does pewpew

[weary shoal]

outlow is awaiting some nerfs

[haughty lantern]

man i love the smell of muriatic acid in the morning

[novel star]

probably? we’ll see

[twin bolt]

meh ih just fucked up and crafted the 610 axe.... always though outlaw is much ahead. sadlife

[novel star]

in beta sin was rly good in m+

[gentle apex]

what's the highest key you've ever cleared blood

[weary shoal]

outlaw gameplay is so stressing ^^

[warped belfry]

I hate outlaw

[haughty lantern]

it's hiiiiiiiiiiiigh noon

[weary shoal]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[lucid silo]

fb is pretty close to DS in most content right?

[gentle apex]

If this answer is under 25 just play assassin bro

[vivid crown]

ELI15: Outlaw is cutie fuckboi but 2 pump chump. Assa is silver fox for the long night lovin. Pick yo vibe.

[novel star]

all content.

[lime crypt]

can someone check logs of what ive done wrong pls pls

[haughty lantern]

ok but one of them has thunderfury artifact appearance and the other doesn't soooooo

[lime crypt]

🥹

[lucid silo]

niceeeeee

[lime crypt]

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[novel star]

pick between fb and ds purely based on fun unless you’re doing rly high end shit

[lime crypt]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NyzY4QdG3Ak21mDa#fight=21&type=damage-done&source=11 any idea what i might do in order to improve?

[novel star]

QUAAAAAAKE

[vivid crown]

kingslayer mage tower appearance is pretty legit. back daggers S tier

[novel star]

QUAKE

[haughty lantern]

OH i know, i got those too

[spice spire]

Shut ur mouth or I’ll shut it for you (with mine)

[novel star]

heeeeere quakeyquakey

[haughty lantern]

like back in legion i did mage tower for 9 of the appearences, assassin was one of those 9 i did

[warped belfry]

Where your CRIMSON TEMPEST BRO

[haughty lantern]

QUAAAAAAAKE

[waxen oyster]

I see more people use shaman t6 recolor for blue/gold mogs

[novel star]

please babe <3

[warped quartz]

how much dmg overall ansurek ring give?

[haughty lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[gentle apex]

I wish the fuck that warcraft logs had a replay timer that would show what your rotation looked like instead of having me look at these goddamned bars

[lime crypt]

i heard whispyr saying like 1% - 1.5%

[vivid crown]

lol i got valeera's pants as my first leggy and cruised through the assa tower on my first try. outlaw tower fuckin sucked on the other hand.

[spice spire]

Run CT

[waxen oyster]

outlaw tower you just played mfd

[haughty sand]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[errant hawk]

whats the highest prio in assas ? Rupture > Garrote > DN ?

[dusty zenith]

dn is prio

[haughty lantern]

Dots > No Dots

[warped belfry]

Duke Nukem?

[lime crypt]

is that legit?

[dusty zenith]

rupture

garrotte the lesser

[novel star]

dn is prio but then rupture>garrote>everything else

[warped belfry]

yes

[dusty zenith]

without DN healers will out dps you

[spice spire]

Yeah dude. 1/5 of your damage was caustic

As ilvl goes up on heroic

You won’t run it as people just passively blow stuff up

[gentle apex]

DN uptime is basically what your parse looks like

[novel star]

ovinax is a pure aoe fight

[haughty lantern]

that's what they want us to think

[spice spire]

But you had a ton of aoe damage missing also. Don’t use tea if you don’t need energy munched like 1/4 of it

[gentle apex]

wait THERE IS A REPLAY

[spice spire]

Yeah you can follow movement and the whole 9

Logs are sick

[gentle apex]

you can open a log, click replay, and then the person on the bottom right, and then hit play to see what they're doing

[dusty zenith]

what

[spice spire]

I’m just a mentally Illinois filled person who does mobile log review

[delicate bridge]

How do we play silken court? Do I do regular ST opener? Or do i try to dot up both bosses?

[dusty zenith]

stfu really?>

[errant hawk]

yesterday, ceverion said "never let rupture drop even if DN is the highest prio" so... ? DN or Rupture in this situation?

[novel star]

pretty sure whispyr has said in here that dn>rup

[weary shoal]

did you transfor some item already into a set item?

!catalyst

[dusty zenith]

omg

life changing

[spice spire]

If you play well enough

[weary shoal]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[spice spire]

You shouldn’t have a period where they fight

[runic hinge]

Oh I'll fight

[errant hawk]

i'll check thanks for ur reply dude

[spice spire]

DN > Rup

But

[novel star]

here

[spice spire]

You absolutely should not let rupture fall

[haughty lantern]

wtf did whispyr mean by this.....

[spice spire]

You have pooling time like a lot

[spice spire]

He’s a bowler

And he bowls a ton

[warped belfry]

but he is not a baller

[haughty lantern]

OH RIGHT

[spice spire]

He hit a perfect game

[haughty lantern]

holy shit

[warped belfry]

hit?

[gentle apex]

@lime crypt do you ever use clear the witnesses or just DN?

[spice spire]

That qualifies baller status imo

[novel star]

i think he’s kinda baller

the hair at least

[warped belfry]

hahaha

[haughty lantern]

yeah my dad bowled a ton as a kid and i am a relatively good bowler so I know how impressive a perfect game is

[spice spire]

He’s also like s certified coach? Real interesting guy tbh

[haughty lantern]

is Whisypr the "WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE I AM?!" guy?

[wary hare]

Guys pls what is DN I can’t figure it out

[warped belfry]

I bowled a bunch of 300s in wii sports I think I am qualified to say if he is a baller or not

[haughty lantern]

Darkest Night

[spice spire]

Darkest night

[wary hare]

Oh F thanks

[haughty lantern]

the thing that lets you reapply deathstalker's mark

[spice spire]

It is not deez nuts

[wary hare]

I was expecting a big deez nuts

[novel star]

deez fuckin nuts dumbassss