assassination

[woven shore]

I had 897k dps on Princess

[subtle tundra]

nerf it

[woven shore]

920kdps was r1

[crisp stream]

did good on first 6 boss and realized i forgot to turn on logs

[woven shore]

And ofc i lay it on 720k dps or less

[lament stump]

nerf sub too and add 3 seconds to half of their cooldowns

[sharp viper]

are you the only logger?

[safe shale]

What difficulty? / parse

[woven shore]

Heroic

[crisp stream]

ye, was pugging sadly

[terse orchid]

It's like you guys want there to be more dumbasses in here asking stupid questions about how to play assassination and why blizzard can;t make it easier for them

[lament stump]

nerf rogue

[subtle tundra]

youre so right

[strange python]

nerf rogue

[terse orchid]

Nerfing outlaw and sub is how we'll end up with more "quality of life" changes like the thistle tea screwup

[safe shale]

@fleet turtle did you see this?

[lament stump]

thistle tea change is good

[strange python]

thistle tea change good

[clever sapphire]

also ye what shyirasky said. No need to use fan of knives in an ST fight. You use that if you are playing without vicious venoms and have clear the witnesses buff up (completly overlooked the fact that you pressed fok )

[fleet turtle]

i use for the proc of hero talent and free cp ? dont need ?

[lament stump]

less buttons for my hard class and i can now summon my cute unicorn pet more mid dungeon

[safe shale]

Not if vv x2

[woven shore]

Did they really wrote that???

[fleet turtle]

ok dont know that thx

[woven shore]

QUALITY OF LIFE CHANGE?????????

[safe shale]

And you press it every single time

[gray briar]

anyone using a marko or hotkey to remove Darkest Night buff between pulls?

i often find myself between pulls reapplying the mark with pullopening but than reapplying it via Darkest Night - ... waste of combo point...

Stupid playstyle or is a makro for that ok? 😄 😄

[safe shale]

Which if you replace all your fok with mutilates, your dps increases a good amount

[strange python]

https://tenor.com/view/connection-issue-undead-world-of-gif-1478467846618454733

[terse orchid]

I'm not sure I understand your problem

[woven shore]

Fok?

[safe shale]

fan of knives

[woven shore]

Ah

[terse orchid]

Yeah but dopamine decreases if you take away our only fun animation

and dopamine>dps

[fleet turtle]

yeah i know i have read that so i use

[woven shore]

Isnt fok 30 energy ? And Muti 60

[lament stump]

this is why you have to mog good or you lose damage

[safe shale]

Dopamine increases when you have more damanage

[safe shale]

So?

[woven shore]

And every fok after applying mark deals crit and extra dmg?

[terse orchid]

yeah and kidney shot is 25 energy

[crisp pine]

Big if true

[normal mist]

Which reminds me:

• go check the #1262437829150113855 Thread channel

[safe shale]

Mut ST is above and beyond fok/clear the witness

[terse orchid]

and we're back to human male being bis race

[normal mist]

Transmog wise it is

[safe shale]

Doesnt matter

[keen spruce]

[safe shale]

Makes fok ST pathetic

[shrewd night]

70% of 0 is still 0

If it was fok

That is

[safe shale]

xD

[gray briar]

when u leave fight, with Darkest Night buff. I go stealth and we are pulling the next groups....

now when i start the fight with Ambush , i make a new Mark, but i still have the buff on me, so spending 7 points refreshes the mark instead of consuming one stack...

So im thinking about making a makro to debuff sometims when i want to open a freh pull with ambush

[safe shale]

I swear people are doing hc raid with rotation addons and just using Fan in ST for some reason

[safe shale]

wowwow hol up

[woven shore]

My god thats a rog😵‍💫

[keen spruce]

mutilate only 2 knives
fan of knives many knives
so fan > mutilate

[safe shale]

If you have DN up, open with garrote

[keen spruce]

[shrewd night]

[normal mist]

Not everyone has bad taste my man, you gotta step up your game

[woven shore]

[sharp viper]

can you cancelaura darkest night?

[gray briar]

ok

[safe shale]

Is that man saying he is going to make a macro, to cancel aura on DN, so he can reapply mark with ambush on next pack?

[shrewd night]

Probably, but why would you ever

[woven shore]

Wanna see this ugly fuck im playing on rn?

[prisma laurel]

wait so for m+ we priorities crit > mastery? or are crit and mastery equal?

[normal mist]

No

[safe shale]

Have you read what Darkest night does?

[terse orchid]

Sim yoself. But crit is king

[woven shore]

Ok one sec

[gray briar]

ofc

[safe shale]

Then why are you wanting to cancel it, to reapply dsm with ambussh??

[gray briar]

as written, only talking about between pulls

[keen spruce]

just open with garrote

[terse orchid]

why would you want to cancel it between pulls

[keen spruce]

[safe shale]

Can you reword your question, it seems extremely strange to me

[woven shore]

bro wtf can i say

[terse orchid]

when you can open with garrote, which is what we want to be doing anyway if it weren't for DN being stupid

[woven shore]

my rog is so ugly

wtf

[crisp pine]

nice mask 👍

[woven shore]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[safe shale]

Are you talking about, if the buff is expiring?

[normal mist]

Smh

Want a pirate?

[woven shore]

idk man dont have transmog on us 😦

[keen spruce]

the ptr servers are down

so i can't look at my transmog

[shrewd night]

Time to resub shmeeps

[keen spruce]

the lord is testing me

I watched all of the boss guides earlier

[terse orchid]

just buy the pirate outfit from the trading post and live your best life in Siege of Boralus

[woven shore]

that my bad bitch on eu

[safe shale]

Try asking this again so i can try understand what you are stuggling with?

[woven shore]

[sharp viper]

it's fun so far

[terse orchid]

Imagine preparing for the raid lol

[keen spruce]

I haven't been subbed to wow since s3 DF, i was just curious

[woven shore]

bruh

what you think about my cow?

🤣

hahahahaha

[hidden meadow]

Anyone else having insane input delay (sometimes up to 1 second) in raid atm? It feels horrible and makes raiding so unfun atm..

[subtle tundra]

paladin detected

[terse orchid]

Why does he look like a racist charicature

[normal mist]

Idk can't see shit

[safe shale]

Nop

[woven shore]

hahahahahahaha

i have no clue how a cow pala can look good

[sharp viper]

just lag from 300 people in the guild coming online and for some reason on boss pull when spell effects start flying around

[sharp viper]

marinated and slow-cooked in a smoker - served with some good potato salad

[safe shale]

Lol

[gray briar]

Sometimes it's easier to restart the rotation with ambush rather than first gathering the combo points for a DN reapply. Sometimes the buff might also run out...

@safe shale

[hidden meadow]

But im running like 100 fps mid fight. it only seems to be my inputs that doesnt register and buffer like crazy. I've seen clips in the DH discord aswell where a guy clicks death sweep 4 or 5 times without it going off.

[safe shale]

But you want to spend DN for the damage, not just to reapply

[gray briar]

(sry 4 long answer time... im in office and need to switch windows from time to time^^)

[safe shale]

If buff is running out, then yeah you can ambush to reapply

[rotund oak]

the left one looks SO good 👌

[normal mist]

Thanks!

[woven shore]

Jesus;(

Ill bubble that

[stiff ferry]

simc

[royal lantern]

step1: dont put a helmet on anything that is not male human

step 2: try to actually have matching colors

[shrewd night]

Isnt full combopoints just two garrotes anyways

[subtle tundra]

nuh uh

6 is not 7

L

[keen spruce]

matching colors giga overrated

[royal lantern]

i dont belive in shrouded suffucation

[crisp pine]

Source?

[subtle tundra]

my ass. i made it up

[keen spruce]

When's the last time u slapped on a head-to-toe fit all the same color

smh

[terse orchid]

Most transmog is overrated. You're only seeing your cape, shoulders and helmet anyway

[keen spruce]

I don't use capes or shoulders

or helmets usually

[terse orchid]

i would never

[normal mist]

@woven shore is the guy that looks at this and says it looks good

[keen spruce]

needs warglaives

[terse orchid]

When did Ice T start playing wow

[keen spruce]

in the bags to swap on for the photo op

[rotund oak]

average tbh

and old

[normal mist]

They are indeed in my bags

[sharp viper]

do you mean mr t?

[subtle tundra]

why is my ass invaded by #transmog users

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/tumblr-tumblr-anon-theodd1sout-theodd1sout-tumblr-theodd1sout-anon-gif-15368460227874113321

[normal mist]

Skill issue

[safe shale]

Saw this earlier, looked really cool...

[terse orchid]

No the guy from Bodycount and CSI

[sharp viper]

it looks so bouncy

[subtle tundra]

you should see me running

[terse orchid]

clean up on aisle vomit

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/daddy-chill-calm-down-wait-gif-14383390

[safe shale]

😂😂

[sharp viper]

SUS

[safe shale]

😂😂😂😂

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/4k-caught-gif-20353888

[rotund oak]

belt and boots need to go

[keen spruce]

oh this was my og og mog

still rockin the neurosurgeons

[sharp viper]

[keen spruce]

i don't even remember ever having that name

[safe shale]

You trippin

Nother else that works

[languid tide]

got 9 in my delves if you just want any trinket

[sharp viper]

he wants you to get naked

[rotund oak]

sry my eyes seen stronger kungfu

[safe shale]

😂

[rotund oak]

😅

[manic jacinth]

hey lads is there a clear the witness weakaura by chance?

[safe shale]

why

just why

[wheat bone]

Guys what build will be playable for tomorrow m+ push??

[safe shale]

People be putting clear the witness on a pedestal

[terse orchid]

All of them

[tawdry halo]

!wa

[wheat bone]

@wheat bonesdasd

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[safe shale]

At which stage of gameplay are you wondering if you have the buff? Curious

Genuinely

[wheat bone]

Guys what build will be playable for tomorrow m+ push??

[terse orchid]

All of them

[safe shale]

You just asked that

[wheat bone]

Y no reply so aha

[safe shale]

So go look at the damn faq?

[keen spruce]

[safe shale]

or google

[manic jacinth]

its not on a pedastal, just wondering if there was one simply to remind me

[terse orchid]

Literally all of them

[wheat bone]

Is this for complaining ? or replying questions xD

[safe shale]

You dont need reminded, just let it use itself

Are you talknig ST or aoe?

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-25879491

[shrewd night]

If you have to ask what build will be the best, youll likely be doing keylevels where your build doesnt matter.

[safe shale]

Trust me, that man will not be "pushing" after that

[unreal mauve]

is it fixed for assa tho??

[slender needle]

yea for like 3-4 days now

[unreal mauve]

alright thx

[bitter saddle]

Deathstaöker with the fix is really fun now

[royal lantern]

@shrewd night important question

what cat form are you using

[shrewd night]

Mage tower purple

[bitter saddle]

Not fire cat?

[shrewd night]

No

[bitter saddle]

😮

[slender needle]

mage tower cat form is bis

[flat oasis]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[royal lantern]

fire cat looks so bad lmao

[royal lantern]

ah yes, the chad show off one

[shrewd night]

wtf

what makes you say that

[terse orchid]

nah balance of power tier one from doing all dungeons

[normal mist]

He doesn't have it

[shrewd night]

Feral mage tower was FREE

Wdym he doesnt have it

[terse orchid]

Skill issue

[keen spruce]

kultiran default cats very gud

but u have to play kul tiran

[royal lantern]

cus its not avaible anymore?

and it looks good?

would use glow cat aswell

[shrewd night]

[keen spruce]

not making a jiggles cat appearance in SL

[royal lantern]

tbh, i dont like swolebear

[keen spruce]

was criminal

[shrewd night]

FACTS

Also mad they didnt make pisscat

They had the model for it

But never released it

[keen spruce]

They never made a duck mount in DF either

so many new duck models

[wild hound]

In ST spec with VV, how many targets need to be present for us to FoK over Mutilate?

[feral mason]

just spent 10h on the ugliest mount ive ever seen

it was worth it though

[bitter saddle]

Where you get that sweet bug

[feral mason]

delve meta achievement

[bitter saddle]

Hm I like delves

Was it hard to do?

[feral mason]

nah just takes 4 days at least

due to daily resetting variants

[spare viper]

Does sanguines blade work with venomous wounds?

[royal lantern]

i mean, the ussual 3+?

[royal lantern]

?

wdym with that

[spare viper]

Like sanguine blades says it duplicates the dmg of garrote / rupture, does that trigger the energy gain from venomous wounds?

im new to assa so cud be dumb question

[royal lantern]

ofc not

the point of sanguine blades is to burn excess energy into bleed dmg

[languid tide]

imagine doing 15 delves getting 15 trinkets... then you forget to switch loot 1 time from m0 and

[royal lantern]

not generating more energy

[spare viper]

I know

[shrewd night]

Guess youre an outlaw main now

[keen spruce]

@agile osprey and I spent weeks farming nick of times with @pure moth only to realize that we had both been in Outlaw spec for most of it

[drifting cloud]

[tough basalt]

He’s finally free

[shrewd night]

Why are you like this

[quiet oar]

how did you know

[keen spruce]

I am not a smart duck

[shrewd night]

I have 100/100 in deduction

[quiet oar]

Koffing

BS resourcefulness

is such a gold mine

[tough basalt]

Make sure you start doing your hand stretches before playing now. That 100 apm increase about to go crazy

[halcyon grove]

Did blizz fix anima charge for deathstalker for assa too? I saw they mentioned on subtlety

[woven shore]

XDDDDDD

[woven shore]

no thats ugly as fuck wtf

[quiet oar]

Pala CM set

absolutely gorgeous

[keen viper]

Are you using catalyst or spark yet?

[woven shore]

spark for weapon and wrist

[errant night]

i already used catalyst

[woven shore]

cata nope

[errant night]

got 610 legs from delves

[woven shore]

and now imagine you get tier set from vault legs

[errant night]

nah it's gonna be 9 trinks knowing blizz's rng

[woven shore]

please queens trinket on normal

that shit crazy

[errant night]

what about it

[normal mist]

It's not pretty no. It's og

[woven shore]

i want it

[errant night]

does it drop from great vault too?

[woven shore]

if you clear normal or heroic quzeen

[sharp viper]

if you killed queen it could

[jovial idol]

Hey, guys. As Assa (especially DS), how do you work around chain pulling or fights that have several waves and don't let you restealth?

I like the spec but having issues with those scenarios specifically outside of my 1 vanish.

[warm elbow]

do you guys think its best to craft weapon with spark for assa with embellishment or do bracers

[boreal lichen]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[warm elbow]

ah lol ok

very clear 😄

[royal lantern]

get 7cp->envenom

thats hoe you should apply 98% of marks in a Dungeon

[jovial idol]

And for garrote/rupture on packs where i cannot restealth? Do I just tab-dot or I just CT and slap the main target and hope for the best with caustic spatter?

It just feels very slow where there's several waves and cannot AOE bleed all of them

No energy regen

[royal lantern]

CT and spatter are the far far majority of your aoe dmg

garrote outside of stealth is not doing dmg

[jovial idol]

Ok, was mostly wondering for energy regen also.

[royal lantern]

and rupture is applying to a couple targets for energy/scent of blood

you garrote the 1 guy you ST and thats it, you dont spread it (and its CD doesnt let you do that anyway)

[jovial idol]

Ok, noted.

I just wondered since the spec feels amazing when you can get restealths or several short packs but veery slow on ST or those long fights with many waves without restealth

Wondered if I was doing something wrong

I mean, the numbers are good but it doesn't flow so good in those situations

I found myself constantly energy starved, especially in long ST fights

[tardy storm]

Is it ever worth using the thistle tea (potion) over the tempered potion?

[royal lantern]

you just apply CT->spread rupture to 5-6 targets for energy saturation/scent of blood, and then go ham on 1 guy and cleave with spatter

[royal lantern]

LMAO ofc not lol

[tardy storm]

but its so much more fun

😦

[jovial idol]

That still exists?

[tardy storm]

yeah xD

[jovial idol]

I thought they removed it when they made it a talent

[tardy storm]

nope

guess im deleting them from my bags 😭

[woven shore]

imagine getting Queen Asureks Trinket from vault today

or the ring

[jovial idol]

No vault for EU today 😦

[woven shore]

good that i started on us

😛

eu plebs

raid at 9pm pst
= 6am eu

[rain mortar]

Guy I gotta say - this has been the best start to a raid tier I’ve ever had - I know parses are kind of troll but I feel proud of my sin skills this week - target dummy practice really paid off

[woven shore]

jesus

[royal lantern]

1more day of freedom before Shit+ prison happens

[rain mortar]

Spending lots and lots of time on dummies changed it all for me haha

[woven shore]

i mean i know my rotation without thinking aswell

[quiet oar]

im gonna avoid SoB at all costs

[woven shore]

nice logs

fuck you

now i gotta get 90+ aswell

rnjesus dont give me mechanics plaze

and pi pog

[rain mortar]

Yeah I knew I get PI - so like it’s not really comparable to anyone who doesn’t get it

[royal lantern]

can i avoid all dungeons somehow

[woven shore]

so prolly 90 logs still

[quiet oar]

unfortunately not

[rain mortar]

Yeah so probably still decent - but PI inflates it for sure

[quiet oar]

Well technically

Jsut loot a lot of Treasure maps out of delves

[woven shore]

not decent

really good

what il

[rain mortar]

Early fights was like 605 but last fight was 610

[proven laurel]

Guys is shiv not aoe anymore ?

[tacit otter]

Do you have AP skilled?

[proven laurel]

Ap?

[tacit otter]

Capstone on spec tree, bottom left

[slender needle]

Arterial Precision

[proven laurel]

Thx guys got it

[jovial idol]

Does assa play fatebound in any scenario? Or it's all DS?

[slender needle]

DS is a bit better overall but if you really dont like it you can play Fatebound aswell

[pulsar apex]

if u use a bounty map but fail the delve.. is the map wasted?

[oak tangle]

no, but dont log out

[pulsar apex]

ah. gotcha ty

[oak tangle]

how are delves solo for rogues? i've been playing monk this tier

[proven laurel]

On ovinax who are you targeting to get the spatters off of ?

The boss ?

[slender needle]

!hero

[prisma monolith]

Both Hero Talents are viable in all content, and are within 2-5% of each other.
Fatebound: Instant damage, is easy to play, can remove some buttons from the rotation, little to no added gameplay
Deathstalker: Introduces gameplay, Singular focus adds big priority damage, suffers from bugs and marks being hard to juggle in easy content like heroic/m0 dungeons

[royal lantern]

slow slow slow

and bosses are a gear check if you can run them down before unavoidable dmg kills you

[jovial idol]

I found sub better for solo stuff just for the sustain from SD talent (until it's removed in 11.0.5)

Assa is better when you have a tank

[amber fjord]

There is no need to struggle in solo delves for rogue, do duos its 100% better

[terse orchid]

Perma tricks on Brann also helps

[keen viper]

What ilv is the embelishments?

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[thorny harness]

with brann healer i have very minimal issues on tier 8, 600 ilvl

[oak tangle]

set bran as a healer the play? or dps

on monk, dps is the better option

[willow falcon]

just get in, respec to sub or outlaw, put tricks on bran, kill a critter and respec back to assa

big profit

[oak tangle]

just getting around to gearing my rogue now, so i'll be heading into 8's at 577

[wide hawk]

I crafted a dagger last weekend after I lost rolls on 2 daggers in normal raid and was impatient get a better one...yesterday in heroic raid again 2 daggers dropped and I got both of them 🙃 😶 ah well

[hot fulcrum]

Man took 2 daggers from heroic raid. Report -> Hate speech

just to clarify, just joking ofc. But sad 😦

[woven shore]

Changes from earlier this week???

Did assa get nerfed or what?

[spice surge]

No

More/less people playing it, better/worse people playing it etc

Those rankings arent static

[limber lion]

More people playing other specs

[hot fulcrum]

just havoc +1 and unholy +3. because of that I guess

[limber lion]

Not really that black and white.

[woven shore]

Alr

[limber lion]

And doesn't matter if it's 15 or 17 anyways

Or better yet 20 or 1

[tired gull]

All that matters is I top meters in my guild 😎

[arctic socket]

Sin rogue bottom dps? Time to reroll

[bronze dune]

sin was expected to be a top tier spec, not surprising lots of people were playing it

[limber lion]

Was expected to be top tier?

According to who?

[bronze dune]

the pre season tier lists

[woven shore]

Yea thats right Thebauss

[limber lion]

None of those said Assa is good in raid

[bronze dune]

i swear i saw some that had sin in at least A tier

[limber lion]

Maybe

[wide hawk]

for m+

[limber lion]

Tier lists are trash anyways

[bronze dune]

higher than outlaw and sub anyway

yeah i agree they're trash

[woven shore]

Im not playing Sub

[bronze dune]

but the casuals eat em up

[woven shore]

Fuck that shit

[hot fulcrum]

The best tier list is the tier list of tier lists imo

[limber lion]

It's very true

[woven shore]

Time to swap to outlaw boyz

[limber lion]

Don't blame em

[woven shore]

[arctic socket]

I hope more casuals continue to play sin and make it look horrible so we can get more buffs

[wide hawk]

tier lists are trash, but it annoys me if my spec is listed as bottom since that does impact whether or not you get invited to pugs ^^

[woven shore]

Lmfao

[limber lion]

I also gravitate toward tier list on newer games or games that I never play

Like Apex or Fortnite

[bronze dune]

Yeah I dont like tier lists but i still check em out lmao

[limber lion]

Tell me what is the best gun and hero and I'm good

[woven shore]

Doesnt matter
Rogue are not liked

[spring moat]

what happened to having the appropriate buffs/debuffs needed

[kindred hinge]

Tier lsit for Sin was for high keys in M+, people may not be happy with today content

[woven shore]

People have in their minds

"ranged can fuck up less"

🤡

[arctic socket]

I meann

[spring moat]

yooooo @spice spire big props.

[woven shore]

Technically yes ofc

But on how many people does that work?

[runic basin]

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[limber lion]

What is he getting props for

[cedar tree]

🤡

[limber lion]

Being hot?

[tired gull]

He’s getting props for making me quake

[arctic socket]

Being “him”

[limber lion]

Best dog?

Agreed

[woven shore]

I wonder how outlaw plays

[limber lion]

Plays well

[woven shore]

Im actually an outlaw main anyway

[spring moat]

pointed out one quick thing in my logs. and poof. big diff. didnt even notice

[limber lion]

Doesn't sound like it

[arctic socket]

Outlaw plays pretty easily

[limber lion]

If you don't know how your spec plays

Then it's not your main

Lol

[arctic socket]

Had no idea what I was doing

And picked it up in a day

[limber lion]

Very nice

[woven shore]

In previous exp brota

Bfa, Sl,

Df
Idk played 7 chars

Game was boring

[wide hawk]

You can identify as anything these days without having the right equipment = )

[woven shore]

Out dps'ed these trash fire mages back then in sl

[spring moat]

simcraft told me id do like 700+ as outlaw and i couldnt break 300 lmao

[woven shore]

[limber lion]

So it was your main but not anymore

[woven shore]

Ok

So

If THIS WEEK my guild drops the rare claw weapon from princess imma swap

And gives it to me

[limber lion]

Glglgl

[woven shore]

[arctic socket]

I got the heroic trinket from princess if I can get the wep I will swap to outlaw myself

[woven shore]

Ahhh yea

Is her trinket bis for m+?

[kindred hinge]

Has bumbling wax been fixed?

[limber lion]

No

[tired gull]

Outlaw plays so different than the last expac I played it

[arctic socket]

No idea I have been told it cranks with wep

[limber lion]

But didn't you hear that pirate is getting nerfed

Time to find a new class

[woven shore]

Aahh its this 2set thing?

[arctic socket]

It’s 2%

Oh nooos

[limber lion]

Sounds dead

Unplayable

[arctic socket]

(I have 4p)

I wonder what trinkets I will end up using tho

Fayewwinds look like it’s pretty good

[woven shore]

5000 crit trinket

For sure

[tired gull]

!fuu

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[cloud nacelle]

Is fatebound really that far behind deathstalker?

[tired gull]

No

[daring hamlet]

do our ideal stats change in M+? iono if haste loses anything in M+ since we basically dont need any energy regen or wtvr

[tired gull]

(It’s actually ahead with certain gear)

[austere sorrel]

Can you say what the quick thing was?

[languid tide]

same bran on heal
stealth run , tott on bran was no probleme did 2 on t8 with 6 lives left
feels ok imo for the gear/time it takes

[terse orchid]

Negligible. Mastery becomes slightly better but damage isn't really the limiting factor in m+ anyway

So no need to major in the minors like that

[novel star]

not at all both are extremely close together, fatebound better st actually in bis

[daring hamlet]

oh so just put on wtvr stats - doesn't really matter

[normal mist]

You spelled deathstalker wrong

[novel star]

no i didnt

[daring hamlet]

do the missives matter at all in terms of what stats i do?

[terse orchid]

No, but raid/m+ are pretty much the same stats is what I meant. Just take crit+mastery missives

[spring moat]

combo point usage

[daring hamlet]

word, not raiding on assa is the thing so basically only using it for M+

[novel star]

you can sim it to see which ones most optimal with ur current gear or go crit/mast to be lazy or go no missive and get random stats and still be fine cause we don’t have bad ones

but they only “matter” as far as like, being 0.1% off eachother

and that’s a 0.1 that will shift every time you get a new piece

[daring hamlet]

iono, no missive seems kinda bad

[normal mist]

Calm down maths guy

[novel star]

it’s just random stats

[scenic stratus]

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[novel star]

you don’t lose any iirc

same number just random

[normal mist]

If you read anything he just said you'd understand it isn't bad

[novel star]

sin literally is happy with all 4 stats like i said

[terse orchid]

Well no, you could still roll verse which is shit

[normal mist]

???

[novel star]

vers is fine

[normal mist]

Since when??

[daring hamlet]

is that what you all are doin? just random stats

[novel star]

sometimes your stats optimally desire vers

it asks me to put vers gems in atm

[normal mist]

I remember in s4 my Sims asking for vers instead of CRIT LOL

[novel star]

ye

[daring hamlet]

like saving the money is worth more than taking actual stats basically?

[normal mist]

It's your choice

[novel star]

all 4 stats are actual stats for us

we don’t have a joke stat like outlaw mastery

[daring hamlet]

sick, thx

[novel star]

if you wanna be super optimal you should sim it but it won’t make a huge difference

[terse orchid]

No, just get crit+mastery and skip using consumables for 2 dungeons lol

[novel star]

crit+mastery could be worse than other missives though

you could get vers haste and have it be better

depends on your gear

i should go back to bed i’m already hurting my head with this shit

[pure moth]

This was hilarious and sad. 😂

[tired gull]

Crit mastery is always the safe bet because they are typically the two best stats. even if verse or haste is technically simming better, more crit feels good for cp gen, mastery is good for big juicer envenoms

[spice spire]

Glad to help big dog

[normal mist]

Don't do that

[spice spire]

@limber lion gonna make me blush

[tired gull]

Talking about missives

[normal mist]

I know, but people will see that and think "yeah haste versa suck"

[tired gull]

People will think that regardless because they don’t know how to read

[normal mist]

You know what

True

[royal lantern]

didnt read what you said there, but yes

[spice spire]

Yeah I’m going people but sweeping generalizations are bad

[tired gull]

Hence the typically in italics, and it wasn’t sweeping, it was saying it’s a good bet for missives because it’s not worth redrafting every time you get a new item to gain 87 dps

[normal mist]

You know what will happen?
"Guys for some reason my Sims ask for versa and haste, are sims wrong?" XDDD

[tired gull]

They already say that

[normal mist]

I haven't seen it yet

This season atleast

[tired gull]

We should sim full haste verse gear just to see where it compares

[novel star]

[tired gull]

I just really enjoy my 3.3m venoms

Feel like a SoO chaos bolt

[normal mist]

True

[vale marten]

this might be a stupid question but do we always have 2 tea charges for every kingsbane? i seem to have only 1 on third kingsbane

[normal mist]

Depends on how many you use

1 min recharge

[vale marten]

so we dont always use 2 fr kingsbane?

[normal mist]

Not necessarily

[vale marten]

i see

[tired gull]

Who’s ready for the reset pumpfest

Best of luck on vaults

[novel star]

hero dagger surely

[tired gull]

[novel star]

hero ritual knife

[tired gull]

Juicer random candle likely (and not the decent ish one)

Or the same cloak I’ve gotten from delves 5 times

[wild birch]

Assuming the mark bug won't be fixed with reset, isn't it better to click it off if you get a re in between packs?

[hearty pulsar]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

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[grim jay]

wdym you dont have 2?

[wanton mortar]

any shenanigans tomorrow to loot a +10 key playing in group? i heard something about not looting the key until doing high levels

[normal mist]

Just garrote

[normal mist]

No idea

[novel star]

just one

but i want an excuse to make dawnthread

[grim jay]

did you just think of a way to keep playing wrong?

[grim jay]

wdym just make it

[novel star]

would be extra recrafting cus i have ascension offhand atm

[grim jay]

uh ye unlucky. I just went with thread either way

[wild birch]

Well, if you don't you're gonna do like 3 finishers before you gonna envenom and reapply mark. But if you click it off and get into stealth you waste 1 global to ambush and you gonna get the capstone before you do your first envenom anyways

[grim jay]

yeah but

you dont wanna do that either way

you wanna play DN

if you have DN

and not ambush

[wild birch]

Im saying in between packs

[grim jay]

yeah and I'm saying always

everywhere

[wild birch]

You finished a pack and you have DN, you ain't consuming it until you prepare all the dots and while you doing that mark ain't rolling at all. If you click it off and start the pack with ambush you gonna have DN when you want to consume it at the same point anyways, but you'll have all the benefits of having mark on the target before it

[grim jay]

yeah but the guide explicitly even tells you thats not what you wanna do

[wild birch]

That's assuming there's no bug

[grim jay]

its been that way before you couldnt consume marks with dn up

[subtle tundra]

Omg I need to get my streaming setup

😔

[wild birch]

I'm prob wrong then, but it feels wrong to do it this way

[spring moat]

What would be the best choice for a vault this week just lowest item level upgrade?

[grim jay]

better get it going and dont stream at ungodly times

[hidden zinc]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[subtle tundra]

Yea I dont want to be a streamer, just want to get vods and maybe some entertainment

Day 1 keys are always good memories

[spice spire]

Man’s gonna stream his dude kissing

Can’t wait to see

[subtle tundra]

Oh there is gonna be some sexual tension

I can assure you

[spice spire]

Is it a group if there’s not?

[boreal lichen]

i got lucky and got the 610 heroic dagger 1/6 hero track. should i invest my crest into that or save for mythic track item ?

[subtle tundra]

Are you killing 2nd boss mythic next week?

Idk where I'm going with this

[spring moat]

Same. I got kikuri dagger from heroic mode

[boreal lichen]

99% not prob

[grim jay]

personally would just upgrade to 619

(I did aswell)

[tender relic]

hey all quick quest. Does Bottled Flaywing Toxin (trinket from necrotic wake) interact with Rogue talents like dashing scoundrel and other poison application increases?

[stuck knoll]

No

[grim jay]

stuff like that usually doesnt interact with any sin rogue kit things

[tender relic]

Shame, then definitely Signet of the Priory > Toxin ?

Other trinket is Ara Kara

[clever sapphire]

sim to win

[agile osprey]

[cursive flicker]

Honestly I think they’d probably be about the same. Maybe sim yourself

[cloud nacelle]

!wa

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[tired gull]

Sim your vault items

[onyx rock]

If you open your /simc when your on the vault it will include all items in it so just sim them

[tired gull]

Yo that’s sick thanks for the tip

[normal mist]

Learning every day

[slate crown]

I think you just have to open your vault once

to check it

[normal mist]

Raidbota will have an option to just "select all vault items"

[slate crown]

then /simc will just always have vault

you don't have to be at the vault to do it

[onyx rock]

Ah ok good to know

[snow harness]

What is this / simc you guys are talking about? Is this an addon being used to maximize DPS with available gear?

[onyx rock]

Yup

[tired gull]

Is raidbots smart enough to only pick 1 vault item

[onyx rock]

Look up simulationcraft on YouTube

[snow harness]

Thanks, will do

[slate crown]

yes

[sharp trellis]

How does Culminating Blasphemite gem work ?

[spring moat]

So simc thinks those items are in your bags ?

[balmy vapor]

I dont understand why we use crimson tempest here after ER

[normal mist]

Yes

[balmy vapor]

if we dont land on anima charge its a 2cb crimson tempest

why

[royal lantern]

it means "if you get the charged CP, use the finisher"

[balmy vapor]

ahh

[royal lantern]

ofc you stull generate the ussual 5+ if you dont hit it

[tired gull]

Praise be

[slate crown]

Not exactly

Simc includes them, but gives them a "vault" indicator

so when you do top gear you can see a little icon next to each that indicates it's from the vault

(thus only letting you select one of them per iteration)

[novel star]

i’m so excited for cbt in 2 hours

[slate crown]

same

my body is ready

[novel star]

[split flame]

how do you keep uptime on like deathstalkers mark on bosses like council and queen ansurek, when there's alot of phasing type shit? do i just kinda of have to save vanish during deathmark pandemic window?

[novel star]

play fatebound or play vicious venoms and hold vanish yeah

[split flame]

oof

[novel star]

holding vanish with vv build costs no damage atm tho cus of a bug

so unless you’re playing imp garrote there’s no reason to vanish on cd anyway

[tribal forge]

When are you suppose to use Skardyn's Grace trinket with your pot before first envenom or use it with deathmark because wowhead is saying use it with deathmark and maxroll.gg is saying use it before first envenom with your pot

[normal mist]

Dm

We don't use maxroll here

[split flame]

hmm alright, for some reason i thought all builds use imp garrote in raid

[novel star]

use pot trinket and deathmark all at the same time

idk what maxroll is cooking

just macro that shit

[normal mist]

Neither do they

[tired gull]

Trying to be edgy

[tribal forge]

That’s what I figured because it would be like using ashes trinket

[normal mist]

For the future, just use wowhead/icyveins. I personally just use wowhead

And my info comes from there

[novel star]

wowhead is updated most often

[tribal forge]

That’s why I would figure I would ask

[normal mist]

You did good my friend

[pastel rune]

hello all, are there any wa/addons for tracking envenoms uptime?

[novel star]

!wa

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[novel star]

[slate crown]

If you want a standalone Envenom specific tracker, the Collection link above has one. Otherwise all those packs track it in some form

[pastel rune]

appreciated

yep I want a standalone shiny thing

[slate crown]

it's not really shiny

and it's a progress bar

[tribal forge]

Thank you for your help

[slate crown]

which may be undesirable for some if you want an icon

[pastel rune]

like kingsbane

[torpid willow]

Quick question guys, i haven't peeked an eye at all about that, how Assa's doing and will do in M+ ?

[crude sequoia]

amazing is my guess but i also parse 21.2 so don’t take me seriously

[nova aspen]

sin was top 3 specs in beta keys

[shy marten]

i feel attacked, i have double 564 weapons

[nova aspen]

and the other 2 specs got nerfed

one got nerfed twice

so

[crude sequoia]

tempted to share my logs just to improve, but it also comes with a fat roast session and i don’t know if i’ll be able to handle that 😭

[broken lantern]

two depths or can i use one depths and one radiant on my weapons?

[torpid willow]

Woot ? Top 3 ? Assa ? But where's Outlaw while it's supposed to dominate M+ haha

[crude sequoia]

i just want to press buttons

[rotund ravine]

gotta start somewhere

[acoustic roost]

Dominates raid instead

[nova aspen]

law is still good, but it will never compete in serious keys because its capped at 5 targets

[normal mist]

It's pretty rare that people roast

Unless you want to double or triple down on bad takes

[tired gull]

Target cap isn’t an issue

[shrewd night]

Look at the bright side. If you are bad, youll get better. But if you dont post logs, youll be bad forever.

[torpid willow]

WHAT (Yeah, again) ? But but.... It's supposed to be assa in raid and Outlaw in M+ ? What happened during this extension ?!

Thanks for your answers :d

[normal mist]

You can just play what makes you happy

[crude sequoia]

to my defence it was bloodhound in heroic difficulty, this is my first time raiding on retail, most i’ve done is blackwing lair and molten core on classic 😂

[normal mist]

My man

I haven't even raided heroic

[nova aspen]

not in pugs

[normal mist]

You already did more than me

[shrewd night]

Bro is concerned about performance when its his first time

[broken lantern]

for m+ and raids, or should i just stick with two depths?

[shrewd night]

Enjoy the ride

[normal mist]

You are here because you obviously want to improve

[shrewd night]

Dont stress about performance

[torpid willow]

Try saying that to my friends that will use the slightest thing available to taunt me with "IF YOU WERE PLAYING A TRUE SPECIALISATION MAYBE YOU COULD DO BETTER DPS THAN ME" (The same people who goes "Eyh, my spec isn't performing well currently sadly"

[tired gull]

Nobody’s gonna roast logs, we’re all here to help a fellow pumper out

[crude sequoia]

story of my life but also sometimes a bad trait

[normal mist]

Killing bosses is more important than having a 99% parse on a wipe

[nova aspen]

i posted a log the other day and i ended up not pressing deathmark 3 times

even tho i thought i did

macro fixed

[normal mist]

If they really are your friends and are just teasing you it's fine, if not, tell them to fuck off

No one knows more about a rogue spec than a rogue (and shiennar)

[torpid willow]

It's the usual roast between friends

[shrewd night]

Sounds like you need new friends homie

[normal mist]

Just beat them in dps

And ask them why are they underperforming

[crude sequoia]

do we have a dps increase somewhere when boss is below 35% hp or 10% or something?

[rotund ravine]

I did that as Feral for years kek

[novel star]

zoldyck

bottom left spec tree

[crude sequoia]

ah

[broken lantern]

yes 30% more bleed/poisondamage

[novel star]

blindside also counts as an execute buff i guess

[crude sequoia]

i was wondering because i was pretty certain i read it somewhere

[novel star]

mhm

[crude sequoia]

this sub did more dps until near the end of the fight

i was like

yeah

that spec is good

boss dies and i’m like

how did i end up above him

lol

[novel star]

[broken lantern]

any suggestions :3?

[crude sequoia]

i tried nexus on HC as well yesterday, didn’t end up in a kill but got him to 10% once

[hushed blade]

Guys. What are you going to craft first item for your rogue? Is there any 100% go-tos

[crude sequoia]

i had 500k average and feel like that’s a bit low, my friends found another group and their sin had 950k

[worthy sparrow]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[crude sequoia]

motivating

[hushed blade]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[slim siren]

!wa

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[normal mist]

That's the stat increase one right? Yes

[clever sapphire]

didnt you say you should sleep like an hour ago?

[novel star]

yeah

[normal mist]

Reminds me of someone

[clever sapphire]

i wonder who that someone is

[novel star]

i got like 5 hours it’s fine

surely

[normal mist]

It's not my fault the conversations start getting good when I'm about to go to sleep

[clever sapphire]

relatable

[broken lantern]

yes i should stick with two depths or yes i can go depths and radiant? xD i am confused, sorry

[clever sapphire]

thats why i refuse to hang out on disc before sleep

[normal mist]

If that's the stat increase ones just go with that

That's what I'll do once I have 2 good daggers

[clever sapphire]

radiant power is the stat increase

depths is the pure st one

[sacred halo]

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[clever sapphire]

or like not sure if pure st

[normal mist]

Radiant power good

[clever sapphire]

but radiant gives the stat

i currently have depths on main hand because 1 star radiant costs like 3 times that of 2star depths

[normal mist]

I feel like in m+ environment having + stats is better than procing DMG on a target

[royal lantern]

ye

the difference is not big

but depths sslightly more in raid and radiant slightly more in shit+

[cursive flicker]

So if you’re doing both m+ and raiding and don’t have weapons/enchants to swap between, just choosing one or the other isn’t going to make a huge difference, right?

[primal jolt]

hello pumpers

[normal mist]

Right

Hello pino

[snow harness]

Question. if there's a piece of gear that I'm not actually wearing and I run the sim, will the Sim list that piece of gear as something I should be using VS what I'm actually using/wearing?

[nova aspen]

oh yea we pumpers

[broken lantern]

just go with one depth and one radiant since my 613 dagger is not enchanted

[nova aspen]

[primal jolt]

whoever is the highest dps in the raid has the biggest cock, think about it

[royal lantern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/at7MmRSszbcEFsYKf36Jdc

[broken lantern]

hewwo ❤️

[royal lantern]

gloves holding me back

[spice surge]

Yes if you click it as an option

Go into top gear and press all the items you want to sim

[primal jolt]

hi tyran

[spice surge]

And it will show you what the best combination of your available items are

[primal jolt]

you've been very active in #1080572530554835072

very nice, very good

[summer cape]

There's any way to target any enemy that is not on focus?

[royal lantern]

hi whoever you are

[royal lantern]

yes, me and a couple others are the reason that channel exists

[broken lantern]

even as a girl?

[primal jolt]

wait royal said hi to me

not you

i take it back

[rotund ravine]

Yes, my soul dick is huge

[normal mist]

ESPECIALLY as a girl

[royal lantern]

if somebody is into that, sure

[maiden sierra]

girls have the biggest cocks, they just know how to camouflage them

[primal jolt]

girls are healers wdym

[normal mist]

They are the better rogues

[maiden sierra]

tbf, i know only 1 girl rogue, she gray parses 💀

[normal mist]

That's not really a good metric

[primal jolt]

i have like 10 girls in my guild, all gray parses

[maiden sierra]

1 is all the data i need to be sexist

(this was a joke)

[normal mist]

Good save

[maiden sierra]

[primal jolt]

i am not being sexist i can bring out logs

😎

[crude sequoia]

hey man so do i

[normal mist]

The 2 girls on my raiding group are always getting trolled by me

[crude sequoia]

nothing wrong with us

[normal mist]

My sister and my GF

Both hunter players

[maiden sierra]

bros flexing da hek

[primal jolt]

HUNTER

i thought girls only played druid and priest tbh

[normal mist]

Not them

[novel star]

can confirm this applies to not only women but also enbies

[normal mist]

My sister plays BM and my gf MM

[nova aspen]

we have 2 girls in raid roster, ret and BM

[maiden sierra]

funny you say that, the gm of my guild is a resto druid

[normal mist]

Tbf I can in theory say that my gf is a "better" player than I am. I play for rewards, she plays for ego

[primal jolt]

2 resto druids 3 holy priests all girls

[normal mist]

She out there doing high keys way above 10

[primal jolt]

tbh one girl is CRAZYYYYYY good holy priest

[normal mist]

And me doing 10s for portals

[primal jolt]

shes parsing 95s

[novel star]

heal parsing

[crude sequoia]

it’s like seeing boys and girls grow up, the boys just want to destroy things, and the girls are out here trying to make sure the world is a nice place

[normal mist]

Not my gf she isnt

[novel star]

why not both

[normal mist]

She's crazy

[crude sequoia]

lmfao

[normal mist]

If she's not playing her hunter

She's playing a fucking Warlock

[primal jolt]

do you guys think there's any girls actually playing sin rogue

[novel star]

i used to be a girl for a little bit

[rotund ravine]

yeahhhh, me

lol

[maiden sierra]

whats the point in pushing keys, i get my portals and then go make an alt thats the current worst m+ spec and then push keys as high as i can so i can get a high world rank since nobody plays the spec

[novel star]

wasn’t playing sin at that time

[normal mist]

There we go, a yellow name assa rogue

[primal jolt]

used to be a girl

[cloud nacelle]

garrote pandemic = 6?
rupture panedmic = 7?

[novel star]

yeah

[normal mist]

Why not

[primal jolt]

im a girl when i need gold

[crude sequoia]

i need to change my color

wait

[primal jolt]

👍

[novel star]

i tried being some level of girl for like a yearish and didn’t like it

in the end

[nova aspen]

yes yes, more red names

[primal jolt]

is girl a spec or something

[normal mist]

I'll be honest, to me y'all are bros

With or without dicks

[novel star]

i mean i’m trans so i guess

yea

[rotund ravine]

bro is gender neutral

[primal jolt]

i find it funny how rogue is probably the class with most men playing it and with most female characters

[clear nexus]

is this good

[balmy vapor]

Do we use fan of knives at 2+ targets? (assuming caustic spatter is applied)

[shrewd night]

[rotund ravine]

incorrect, paladins exist

[normal mist]

You'd not believe if I told you I once, in this discord, called a girl Bro... And she didn't like it.

[clear nexus]

ok, sis

[primal jolt]

yeah true, because elves can only be female

[shrewd night]

Throwback to a couple of weeks ago when I said "guys"

[normal mist]

I REMEMBER

[lapis depot]

Hey guys the wowhead guide says we should craft wrist and Belt with embellishments, but Ascension is better right? Where Do we craft that?

[normal mist]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[primal jolt]

people are talking about sin in the sin channel

[normal mist]

Damn

[novel star]

also hi @rotund ravine i thought i remembered da name from somewhere

[clear nexus]

where can I find crafters? in trade or any communitys

[primal jolt]

trade chat

[normal mist]

Trade chat :/

[novel star]

gaymer

[clear nexus]

f

broman how am i gonna find a crafter im squelched

[feral merlin]

as a raid and MM+ player, it's an hard choice to make, did anyone sim the difference beetween ascension and Dawnthread in a MM+?

[normal mist]

I went dawnthread and I didn't even sim ascension

[feral merlin]

is it a 10% diff or a 40%

[novel star]

dawnthread is simply better in m+ and most of your pulls it will be tied in raid

it’s way way way smaller than that

lol

[clear nexus]

What mats should i buy, dawnthread lining t3

is dawnthread embelish

what else, i remember this being quite confusing from df

[feral merlin]

I mean 10 or 40% diff beetween what it adds to our general DPS, not the difference beetween our DPS ^^

[normal mist]

Yes

[clear nexus]

i want haste/mast

[normal mist]

You want to sim

[clear nexus]

should i go haste/crit if i wanna play OL aswell

but if i sim rn with unoptimized gear

[novel star]

not sure exactly but it’s small enough that you can just go for what’s cheaper and be fine. or sim it and check

[clear nexus]

oh well, i guess i sim

[balmy vapor]

do we use fan of knives at 2+ targets?

[normal mist]

If you want to also play outlaw use their stats

Assa is happy with anything

[summer cape]

I need a macro that targets any not in focus enemies anyone knows if there's a modifier like nofocus or something like that?

[feral merlin]

I suck at siming tho, won't be able to do it ^^

[clear nexus]

haste verse then

[clear nexus]

ty

[spring moat]

lemme get this straight..so for vault .. open it.. run simc export to website and raidbots will be like "hey bisch.. pick this thing''

[novel veldt]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[normal mist]

Sounds right

[spring moat]

gucci

[normal mist]

If you have doubts, report back here with the sim

Bros will help you out

[novel star]

generally 3+ but deathstalker with the fok talent presses on 2

[iron carbon]

No, 3+ target

[novel star]

^ it depends*

[feral merlin]

with deathstalker proc, you even fan of knives on 1 target no? I saw that in many top warcraft logs reports

[spring moat]

i got mostly champ/hero gear. i have an adventurer helmet.. hoping for helmet today

[novel star]

yeah you do if you’re running imp garrote build

[spring moat]

no brainer what to pick if a helm is in there

[novel star]

with vicious venoms you ignore proc

[iron carbon]

It's a proc rule, if you don't use VV

[feral merlin]

ok

[iron carbon]

But you don't fok as generic builder in 1/2 target

[novel star]

(except you do at 2 on deathstalker w/ thrown precision)

[normal mist]

[novel star]

so like m+ or heroic court only rly but still

[primal jolt]

remember guys, don't forget to use throw dagger in your rotation

👍

[novel star]

i do this

what else am i gonna do while waiting for kyveza to pop