assassination

[balmy condor]

royal don't tell me you also don't read pins

[normal mist]

If you said it

[swift dagger]

read pin

[spring socket]

we been weak for some time

[normal mist]

IM mobile

[swift dagger]

[normal mist]

MOBILE

I'll check

[balmy condor]

y'all dont get pins on mobile?

[normal mist]

I read pins when I know there are new ones you troll heheh

Which I didn't

[balmy condor]

I'm revoking your green name

back to pink with yo ass

[normal mist]

YOO

Please don't do that

[fallen arch]

Holy

Actually fixed

[balmy condor]

this is rogue discord not priest discord

[fallen arch]

What a day

[normal mist]

REVOKE HIS RED NAME

[balmy condor]

true

[normal mist]

He didn't read pins!!

[fallen arch]

Uh

[balmy condor]

well he did

[normal mist]

Heheheheh

What a day

[balmy condor]

Mr Ozsassin is a devote pin reader

[normal mist]

Now I just need to reach 1800 in pvp

And will be the best day

[fallen arch]

First thing I do everyday

[balmy condor]

see?

that's dedication

[normal mist]

Damn

[spring socket]

fuck me thats a pin

[royal lantern]

i can play imp garrote again

idk, the vanish->ambush thing felt weird

[spring socket]

therese like 3k dps diff in my sims with ig so mite do the same

[balmy condor]

yeah but imp gar in raids cringe

[royal lantern]

huh

[fallen arch]

Anyone else getting absolutely destroyed in t7/8 delves?

[balmy condor]

bleed in aoe, poison in raid

[fallen arch]

Melee clapped to death in 2 seconds

[royal lantern]

you mean like, thematicaly

i thought gameplay/numbers for a sec there lol

[robust axle]

I guess going from 606>610 OH dagger is less DPS than going from 606>610 bracers right

[indigo mulch]

If your a flip enjoyers then you run imp garrote anyway!

[balmy condor]

oh seeing imp gar die in raid is more of a carnal desire to see m+ players heads explode when "the most important talent on assa" suddenly isn't even top 30

[royal lantern]

bro

you act as if m+ players now what imp garrote even IS

they just think stealth = giga hyper important

[balmy condor]

they have to

[royal lantern]

and thats it

or say DAE IC????????

HOW CAN I DOT WITHOUT IC???????

[balmy condor]

I think they're able to muster imp gar

I think they're at minimum smart enough for that

[misty hare]

what does imp mean

?

[balmy condor]

improved

[royal lantern]

tbf, i just like imp garrote cus vanish->garrote feels better then vanish->ambush lol

[indigo mulch]

But cold blood is more dmgur

[royal lantern]

atleast garrote does something, if that makes sense

[spring socket]

venoms/scoundrel seems still to be the strongest

[balmy condor]

idk, vanish->garrote without shrouded feels like absolute noodle shit

[indigo mulch]

I promise. I saw a spreadsheet of a known excellent tc saying cb is veri good and iron wire is bad cuz less dps

[balmy condor]

thats fine too

[royal lantern]

just make garrote always 3 CP

what power creep?

[balmy condor]

the only creep is me

wait

[spring socket]

altough lost dps droping lethality for RC

[balmy condor]

are you simming on nightly or weekly

[indigo mulch]

Creeping on my daughter?

[robust axle]

huh?

[indigo mulch]

[balmy condor]

ye....mayb...... how old is your daughter

[balmy condor]

oh

[indigo mulch]

[agile wedge]

In which scenario my ds capstone does not give me three new stacks of ds although I used 7 cp? Happens a lot lately

[balmy condor]

[indigo mulch]

Choose your word carefully I do own a shotgun

[misty hare]

so, let me get this straight. Darkest night was not working with the animacharged points from Reprimand, but now it does?

[robust axle]

Correct

[balmy condor]

9,000km is probably out of range of a shotgun

[misty hare]

Therefore, Resounding clarity now is an optimal pick than 2nd point of lethality?

[balmy condor]

yes

[indigo mulch]

It's a very long shotgun

[balmy condor]

[indigo mulch]

[balmy condor]

he's got the ICBM shotgun

[indigo mulch]

Ikr

[misty hare]

thanks

btw the cp spender tooltips only mention 6 points, even if i have 7 cp max. that a bug?

[robust axle]

Is our OH the worst/last pieces of gear we should upgrade? Like does equal amount of ilvls on bracers give more DPS than OH if I were to upgrade?

[novel star]

had an allergic reaction to this opener

[misty hare]

I'd say OH is pretty important since it's damage directly affect mutilate

[narrow basalt]

Is our set bonus good? Havent tried it yet bc work 😎

[novel star]

no, off hand is garbage

[faint path]

pog statsssss

[white pumice]

If i want to play Fatebound in m+ what do i pick? Cant seem to find a build on wowhead

[robust axle]

yea so 606-610 bracers > 606-610 OH?

[storm hedge]

Too low versa imo

[thorn crater]

no lol weapon gives more stats

[robust axle]

Go to hero talents on WoWhead

[balmy condor]

it's like on leg/chest level, like its better than a normal piece of gear but not much

[thorn crater]

but thats not what he said

[faint path]

fuck vers

[thorn crater]

oh is a stat stick is what he said

and naturally it gives more stats than a wrist

[white pumice]

Thanks!

[balmy condor]

daggers have less stats than wrists

[misty hare]

true hahaha

[balmy condor]

daggers are the lowest statted items we have

but autos still do something

and the offhand hit from mut I guess also does damage sometimes

so it kinda makes up for it

but offhands aren't all that impressive

[novel star]

just sim it

[misty hare]

Another question. It feels that we benefit alot from almost all stats, excluding maybe vers (not as much). Is it fair to say that replacing gear based on ilvl and not secondaries is the way to go?

[thorn crater]

really? lmfao

welp then i guess there is the answer

[balmy condor]

yes that's what we've been telling people for years, they don't seem to listen :(

[misty hare]

lol okay 😛

[novel star]

stats arent everything nor is offhand dps everything but also neither of them are nothing

well oh dps is nearly nothing

but

[balmy condor]

yeah it's cause technically weapons as a whole are one combined slot worth of stats, like for casters think about staff vs 1h+offhand

like this is a combined 16k int

and 2k seconday

\

and that's right on par with a staff

so daggers have low stats on their own

cause balance wise they're designed to be 1 items worth of stats

[novel star]

and 2 items worth of crests babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[balmy condor]

yeah I bitched about that

[misty hare]

yeah, the combination of 2x daggers have the total of stats of a 2h weapon

[balmy condor]

but what can you do

[novel star]

it's so cringe dude

losing ilvl battle perma cause i dont want to waste all of my fucking crests on 0.5%dps

[normal mist]

Gearing is wild this week. Did pvp for 3 extra champion slots this week and that's pretty cool

[balmy condor]

you can't pay me money to pvp

[normal mist]

Next week(?) I'll have 2 champion daggers as well

[urban haven]

What´s the deal with the delve bosses reseting when starting from stealth?

[normal mist]

From pvp quest

[novel star]

yeah acually having to play pvp is cringe as hell

[balmy condor]

jank game

[novel star]

i did the 1 rbg for 2 610s thing and thats it

[normal mist]

I play pvp for tmog

[novel star]

cus those r just pve basically

[balmy condor]

I didn't even do that

[spice surge]

Make sure brann is close to them and not outside their arena

[novel star]

Litearlly i think i saw 2 alliance the whole time

[robust axle]

Which quest is this? the 2500conq one?

[novel star]

we just mounted up for 90 seconds and then aoed some shitter mob

and i got 610 items

[pure siren]

!loot

[jolly lion]

Hello, could someone explain to me why i can't see any change in my stats when dead-eye proc? aint got any buff or anything

[spice surge]

No, once you win an epic bg or 4 arenas

[thorn crater]

are u opening with tricks?

[spice surge]

You get a quest for 9 of the crafting materials

[robust axle]

I know

[urban haven]

@thorn crater yeah

[pure siren]

what is the command for upgrades track?

[balmy condor]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[pure siren]

thanks ❤️

[sturdy stirrup]

which opener is this

[robust axle]

But he said next week he gets 2 weapons as well on Champ track @spice surge And was curious how

[swift dagger]

Whispyr why does ur plater not work anymore? Or like is this a common issue

[thorn crater]

so essentially brann is still invis when u open so he cant target him and it resets. u have to use it after bran attacks

[novel star]

no imp garrote/shrouded

you have to do the extra mutilate cause imp ambush+normal ass garrote is 4cp instead of 6

its cringe!

[balmy condor]

your cringe

[novel star]

YOURE!!! YOUYRE!!!!!

[spice surge]

Buying them for conquest id imagine

[normal mist]

The 2 weapons yea

[balmy condor]

I'd like to buy a vowel mr oliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[normal mist]

2500 conquest earned

[robust axle]

Oh oyure 1800 then I guess lmao

[novel star]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blast-off-launch-cat-jumping-into-camera-gif-6639037559618288527

[normal mist]

Not yet

[novel star]

does this to you

[normal mist]

1750

[balmy condor]

damn

I'm hard

[normal mist]

Bad lobbies yesterday

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

[indigo mulch]

I'm still simming higher as ds

Give crit ples

[ripe carbon]

where u get this quest?

[robust axle]

Literally what he wrote

[ripe carbon]

oh

so u get quest after

[robust axle]

yea

[subtle tundra]

I have afkd bgs

To get the gear

Dont care blame blizz

[ripe carbon]

ive done like 3 epic bgs and lost all 3

[runic depot]

what embellishments are u guys thinking

double dawnthread or going into writhing armor banding

[jolly lion]

Dead eye trinket is bugged isn't he?

[ripe carbon]

i was gonna go ascension and writhing but i dunno

[subtle tundra]

Requeue. Watch something while afk

[ripe carbon]

mm

i got nothing else to do

[sturdy stirrup]

tyty

[ripe carbon]

i just need 1 passive trink and gloves, then upgrade 450 valorstones or so of gear

603 ilvl atm

[tepid iron]

hello guys. im using a blood build with fatebound. Wanna knoe if its better to use cold blood or echo. Thanks

[vocal minnow]

Sim

[novel star]

cb

inevitability makes cold blood too good and the other option in that node is just garbage

[winter cobalt]

hey, any fix/workaround for plater mod not updating nameplate color when Caustic Splater wears off? using the one from "!wa". saw on wag.io I'm not the only one with the issue

[novel star]

fatebound is hard locked to cb unless they buff the alternative

[winter cobalt]

is it ok to ping Whispyr? I don't want to abuse the author if someone else can help me out

[tepid iron]

Thanks

[balmy condor]

no

pinging me = insta die

[novel star]

@balmy condor

[balmy condor]

no fucking clue btw I can't figure it out

[errant night]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds

[toxic zephyr]

It looks like echoing reprimand was fixed, are there patch notes i can read?

[balmy condor]

pins

[toxic zephyr]

blue posts tho?

[balmy condor]

hyperlinked

[errant night]

and delves are great again

[balmy condor]

just click

[toxic zephyr]

ah bless.

[winter cobalt]

that breaks my heart, becaus this mod is GOAT

thanks for adressing the issue though

[tepid iron]

its is this good? Oil of Deep Toxins

[balmy condor]

no

[balmy condor]

I got a nerd looking into it but no eta

[novel star]

that nerd better move fast!

i switched to the whispyr plater and now i have to look at FAKE GREEN

[balmy condor]

I did everything right idk okay

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

it's literally on nameplate update

but then it just

refuses

idk

[agile wedge]

team when playing with vicious venom, why dont we want to use our clear the witthingy? does another mutilate just do more dmg so we ignore it?

[balmy condor]

yes

[novel star]

also is it intended that mark+caustic are like light blueish now

i rember when i was watching ur stream setting it up mark colour just took prio over caustic always

[balmy condor]

yes

[novel star]

kk

[agile wedge]

ty

[balmy condor]

thats part of why I recoded it to a mod

[novel star]

it look good i was just wondering cause its similar sorta to one of the other health colours

or my eyes are just bugged

[novel star]

aha

[balmy condor]

thiis is a lot easier for people to edit

so I changed it

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

to make it easier for people

cause now it's basically just reading english

very good

[worldly sail]

i think my nameplate colors are still running out of some script that i stole from priest dot colors in shadowlands

ancient voodoo

[balmy condor]

maybe I move it to health update

[swift dagger]

@balmy condor idk why your plater profile suddenyl stopped showing enemy nameplates completely

[balmy condor]

that sounds like you hit a button

there's a keybind that turns off nameplates

probably fat fingered it

[tacit wedge]

By default it's v

[swift dagger]

I dont think so cuz Quazii's nameplates work fine

I'll try re-importing the profile

[bronze flicker]

!spec

[prisma monolith]

All Specs are good and have niches and strengths that they play to. All three specs are looking viable with Assassination/Subtlety being preferred in raids. Mythic+ meta has not solidified yet but Assassination looked promising during beta.

Be aware that Simulations are a tool to be used to compare things like talents/gear/rotations, they are not the definite answer to what is meta or not meta. While outlaw is ahead in sims right now, especially dungeonslice, you have to take a step back and realize these are synthetic/generic situations that we use as a baseline. Dungeonslice has always been a great showing for outlaw simply due to the fight style matching well with the spec. This is not unusual or unheard of.

You can view logs of the raid when it comes out Here, or view the mythic+ run leaderboard Here.

[bronze flicker]

when kingsbane is up should i try to get away as many envenoms as possible or just keep the buff up ?

[tacit wedge]

Since you want to Shiv during KB, you want to spam envenoms to ramp it up

[crisp stream]

And that would be 5+ cp envenoms right?

[bronze flicker]

if i dont play lightweight i just press shiv last 7 seconds of kingsbane then ?

[balmy condor]

yes

[balmy condor]

yes

[tacit wedge]

You always want to envenom at 5cp+ unless animacharged

[knotty canopy]

Are u guys able to solo lvl 8 delves?

[tacit wedge]

The kb window boils down to
KB
Spam envenoms
When there's 7sec left on KB, Shiv
Thistle tea
More envenom spam

[normal mist]

I'm home, my car passed the inspection test, i read the pin

Which means i now need to find what talents i like to play with more

[balmy condor]

what did they inspect on your car

[normal mist]

its those yearly inspections

to check if car is okay to be on the streets

[spring socket]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[normal mist]

fortunately... my father knows the guys

wink.

[swift sage]

are we good to start making crafted items now?

without the risk of them changing again, or should I wait another week?

[normal mist]

double crit and call it a season

thats what i did yesterday

[swift sage]

nice, thanks

[normal mist]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[fathom cove]

For M+, is Numbing Poison generally better than Atrophic?

[balmy condor]

numbing is more tank mitigation, atrophic is more group mitigation

[royal lantern]

and numbing makes interupting stuff slightly more easy

[formal lynx]

hi guys is assa gonna be good for m+? cuz it seems to not be so good rn

[novel star]

sin was very very good in m+ in beta testing iirc

our aoe is still very good in live m0s and will only get better with higher mob health

[royal lantern]

its funny how it took 2 days of "funny colored raid dmg bar" from people to go "ASSA IS SSSSSSSSSS+ TIER OMG SO STRONG" into "wtf assa needs buffs????? is it even good????"

[novel star]

we pump heavy

in aoe

[balmy condor]

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

whispyr keeps saying assa single target sucks I wonder why he's saying that assa is so strong on beta what is he talking about he's so glueless

3 days of raid later

[novel star]

glueless

[balmy condor]

"wtf assa rogue doesn't get buffs??????????"

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

[novel star]

glueless

[formal lynx]

ye thats what i mean

[novel star]

glueeless

[formal lynx]

i tested sub with asa gear and was pumping harder in st

with no vers

wtf

[balmy condor]

assa gear single target is below average

has been all of alpha/beta

this is entirely expected

can't type

holy

[novel star]

more glue buddy

[balmy condor]

4am brainrot session

who's with me

[novel star]

7

but yeh

[balmy condor]

I can't count that high

[novel star]

my sleep has been fucked ever since the xpac dropped

well

season mostly

pre season it was fine

[balmy condor]

I go to bed when m+ numbers have been re-run

[novel star]

🛏️

[deep breach]

Hey @balmy condor was wondering If I could ask you a quick question about m+ opener?

[balmy condor]

no, I have a one question rule and that was your one question

[deep breach]

Damn. I wasted it.

[balmy condor]

tsk tsk

what's the question

[royal lantern]

undertuned heroic dungeons where shit dies at 50% hp from sudden demise just made the brainrot sstronger

[novel star]

[deep breach]

Ok so. I know when you open, you are supposed to spread the bleeds. But am I targeting different target or spreading them from one target?

[novel star]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[balmy condor]

damn

oli's on top of it

[thorny harness]

im tabbing if theres more than 3 🤣

[novel star]

get smoked bro

[balmy condor]

call me weed the way I just got rolled

[novel star]

sheeeeesh

[deep breach]

Oooooooh ok that makes so much more sense

I've literally come from being a BM main so this whole having more than 3 buttons has put me in to shock.

[balmy condor]

yeah I'm familiar with..... your kind....

[deep breach]

Don't judge me. I'm trying 🥺

[balmy condor]

trying is good

learning is good

[royal lantern]

is it a BM BM, or a raidleader BM

[summer imp]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[normal mist]

here

[novel star]

here

[normal mist]

get smoked

[balmy condor]

okay y'all typing faster than me is not okay

[novel star]

i’m gonna do it

[balmy condor]

since when is that a thing

I'm not even on mobile

[deep breach]

I mean. I like to think I was a good BM 🤣

[novel star]

i am ur washed

lock in

[royal lantern]

good players are good players, no matter the class/spec

[balmy condor]

youor'e

[royal lantern]

people meme on bm, but even BM has huge skill gaps

[shadow tulip]

We love you too Whisp, thanks for your work. And pins.

[balmy condor]

I love you too

[novel star]

Ohh ok sorry. Youor’e washed

[summer imp]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[sharp trellis]

Talking about optimum openers, what kind of macro could help to target a ungarrotte unit ?

[novel star]

don’t sim for stats

[royal lantern]

secondary stats are a lie

[novel star]

all stats are close on sin so the prio is constantly changing

!stats

[balmy condor]

technically if oli answers with a bot command, I wrote the bot command, so technically I'm answering the question ya know so really oli is washed and I'm based sigma

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[summer imp]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[novel star]

what if i answer with an answer AND a command like rn

then what pussy

[deep breach]

BM was made waaaaay easier during DF but yeah there are some definite skill gaps. But rogue just seems a lot more to manage is all. Not to mention I've literally never played a melee class 😮

[balmy condor]

then I get half points

[limber dew]

how do you track clear the witness? is there a weak aura for it? or jkust have to pay attention?

[balmy condor]

just a lil buffy buff

here

steal mine

!WA:2!1z1YUTTrx4iluKafuuhNlWojTW1W14VDHVOK4CbiWXuroXfosQuY2jaTGCi5iXjHAMjZm0sk7Qb(bYUcOvfO7062n6rWpbec9jqR6IUYpb9mdPKRlI5cY5CMZCUF(gMBN5ApxWCbFC9beFgTolw4JZ51b1IT7Z7JUVDLxtErLhnef82yPch8ku3zoJGqNr0RAZMsSk3qe1pKjQXiuLxPYvAu2EKpJffW6qR3HWXUfJfr87eQuC5twBnTjwLWwBQnw7XcKVIWOYnTLkKqvWIqjQcEnHpYWchReKwTWczLvezl)4DesookA3a77)4IRVzFuSarrTXYBZVEPimsSOkeV4HefflLy54yj2b5jzcVxXcWUJAHPybXVEiRtv6yP5tPmN(yTWXGh4kaQQ0OEUdKM8Z(atpEeQhwmwg7Hpctv1e4MKU21RvEV9ooaCdDKS09EGiMA23cfRydcWEXnB2OhhlEz59QTZ(7zPacBTFxuagSc48UJ0w2eygYP2OoCws3roL2UEdN67xQu5617pvUCwANn5U2gz5lmjowSMG1saX)I)V6Az)2(kMc3wFe7Ip8rfF8ibgfvFQAgo167g4EC2czbtU7S4p1jNQjxBtAVqFdxOq(ox(10Rpxg2TFmnR0vyyar(2ykuXpcxer7XVgYSUr6(66ZVFPtHMjSGIIoaQ7qc93gZZcM0o1V7UxAM(ikPTjDVzYNFqYYwugfFmgjX68CYwNOxwxjW0wQWl7XHtJvwnrb4rtQto6IGqIHjGaPvBeHUtYYjBLS9LtEEs5KNbl)IdmCEwkxRKs6DG6PeP0kbhkok1fV(aOCzJBPBKFYTswEeq6b5Jwcwmn4JlWNtH7QCKHiO486SHN(gE6xl9nC(ItPCAYeqS5WDuK2yN2SahTXChNQdCutZ8M1273Ok)6gM6(mD6W)qsGk0ABG80uvr6Idmm)z(YxKfIWTq(9CAgXyIWtmcON1jn7LCLbcMcmEdGPvLQvkZ)QlslPu5swwabVE)rPGdtc3bMZ4ZIyIVp)l36V)r9tLxU1F9R6N)F((z6KQguURUGj7G6X)6lYCGe(eDUp)5sUVjZAPHXrGeErWWLHQdteCOaXp(WSfJMAsZ0z19BS3UqioBAo9mOTKRKflt0EMiPMSKjKYLlx(Z0xDYhWFj)BViNpOhm5q8DuHqCgcJS55l8jKnDHT(ibntwUVURcCDSyy6hhjyM8NKr4p1pgNXzs4prCCqlm)A1FFmsGxCN4OOfpmKOWJY2MzcU8EHysRqvjRigk4J3WmZZXkpKsfHdnd7A4nrOTFeskxXtsOTIW22vFX(LTBhhPiPqcMTDTJaHJU9sBUUL2DVvsV0DnSdhrOaUp1hBghlWNB6bHcqGgsYp0s)ELKoxoP3tCDDhBoPddQyiftC7LE6t53ecJ2oEmASKe4GFFmHZXbwpCJIBo(8Ad0tJzt6TsJzDV)SUP2JYuPGFVJcyNUEkueGMcsE1KE36QPOEhHdj(r49jHJpV4Z)zJoz8u4tdRq(cAgFsFku8baQcaxNHpli02zxRAULn0lfR1J0MZekl9TZUdj00(aOxFLHWsFCznyV0LppPfLjWv5MBqnCllemH0DGgvJyyxyeGoa9Uzsv4)AwcnCGWaDzGo)fp4OnjTslftUpbqMT1yq2D0yjLSrr8quEa(2mwSJaUhOg0urvH8Bm5ha0ygpNirqhyGRNe3g6zSV3QRV6gwFGXAxl)6REVKV2DGI5NbJoFU)y4sKGKBk6o5hmAQvnaKJuO8N(VSM2x9QxYUC5k2zykWtXysWW6D3C3FyV3aT07kiuTQXHN(omMVTU(RS1zs3tM4LLHzIq99s6723fI95pO2pD8KDD7pfVn5kZj9EWQB8Wv3yUJ(Zx)pd

kaboom flashbang

[novel star]

Dude how come male belves get to do a cool jump when they envenom wtf

i don’t wanna play a male but that’s fire

[royal lantern]

"cool"

its goofy af lol

[balmy condor]

patriach wins again smh

[novel star]

nuh uh

[limber dew]

thank you so much

[normal mist]

This was a chad move

[novel star]

ok fem panda envenom also jumps technically and looks 10x cooler

but

it’s still cool

[balmy condor]

yes I am sigma

[normal mist]

you were between oli and the bot

[summer imp]

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[deep breach]

When you next streaming whispyr? Would be cool to catch one and see what I can learn. I promise I'll be a good rogue 😶‍🌫️

[summer imp]

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[balmy condor]

if that's higher ilvl and sims better, sure

[normal mist]

in a perfect world you'd look at your ilvl go up and be happy

[novel star]

because they simmed it and it did more damage

[balmy condor]

ah yes, those people either simmed themselves or fell for my trap

I like to think they fell for my trap

[novel star]

i crafted 2 crit haste pieces because they simmed like .2% higher than crit mast or something

recently

[normal mist]

I craft without missive

im that based

[novel star]

just sim sim sim perma

[royal lantern]

outside of trinkets, if it has a higher ilvl, its good for assa

[balmy condor]

same

[royal lantern]

if its the same ilvl, sim

[normal mist]

BUT

[summer imp]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[normal mist]

both my emb items were crit mastery

without missive

[novel star]

yep

optimal stats to craft will be different based on the rest of your gear

[summer imp]

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[novel star]

no way to skip simmin

[royal lantern]

im honest, i just made my wrist mastery/crit and my waist mastery/haste so all 3 statss get increased a bit and called it a day

lol

[balmy condor]

I had 2 roll crit mast and thn 1 roll vers haste

was aight

[normal mist]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[normal mist]

Can you confirm me how big is a socket slot VS ilvl?

[balmy condor]

I have no fucking clue lmao

[normal mist]

i can craft a 610 bracers with pvp

[royal lantern]

4

[balmy condor]

I'll sim something for it I guess

[normal mist]

but i have 603 with socket

[balmy condor]

but dungeon sims first

and while I do dungeon sims

💀

fatebound loves stealth I promise

[normal mist]

oof

[balmy condor]

@novel star you'll get a kick out of it

[grim jay]

2 rings and that one from maps

end me

pls

[strange python]

During opener on large pack, on my second rupture, do I need to target something other than my deathmarked target before applying?

[swift dagger]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[novel star]

but you could guarantee a lucky coin whispyr

that’s so broken dude

hard spec into double jeopardy

[crisp pine]

I straight up just hit all the coins nat

[novel star]

5 edge case flips

[balmy condor]

the cancer I got reading that

terminal

[crisp pine]

I've never flipped wrong in my life

[novel star]

LMFAOOOO

ur so mad i’m right

it’s crazy

cook up a new opener immediately

[summer imp]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[balmy condor]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA I SPELLED PROFILESET WRONG NOW I NEED TO SIM IT ALL AGAIN

[novel star]

i dont think its even true actually

youd still be at 6

right

[balmy condor]

ye

you could technically play tea/cb/wtac

[novel star]

for what man

[balmy condor]

but like

for meme

[dusty zenith]

Just woke up you got new build yet whispyr? Hmmmmmmmmmmm

[faint path]

jesus are u simmin 2m ?

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

dungeonslice

[west cove]

still my slice sim is 1.3m at 600 ilvl with Deathstalker Hybrid build

[balmy condor]

yeah well

this slice is easily 30 ilvl higher than you

so get hosed bozo

aight time to clean up pins

[west cove]

but, my feelings...

[balmy condor]

[novel star]

wait if i join a 2/3 boss m0 dungeon do i get all 10 crests for final boss

i might be optimizing not playing the game rn

this is so sick

[dusty zenith]

I craft with crit and mast because the only gear I find has haste and vers period

[dapper cradle]

An insane emoji

[sturdy stirrup]

[dusky carbon]

!delve

[prisma monolith]

Soloing Delves is really hard currently. Some solutions:

• Do them with a tank+healer in a 3 man. This seems to be lenient on scaling
• Go outlaw/subtlety with trickster, take the 1 hour tricks of the trade talent, cast tricks on brann (I personally put brann on my focus and use /cast [@focus] Tricks of the Trade)
• For objective/pickup object based delves, you can sap/aoe blind, pick up the item, then vanish. This is slow but will get the job done most of the time
• Put Netflix on your second monitor or something while you wait for your 2min cooldowns to come back up so you can pull another 3 pack of mobs, 2 of which are sapped/blinded, you’re in for a long delve

[dusty zenith]

Anyone else having a hard time finding gloves? I swear the mythic dungeons only one pair drops

[stuck knoll]

Me when my KB gets parried on Bloodbound

[glass hemlock]

Anywhere easy to find what gear to be going for like in s3 and s4?

[stuck knoll]

Droptimiser is a handy tool that points you to your biggest upgrades

From dungeons or raid

[glass hemlock]

Oh yeah sweet, between that and wowhead I should be fine

[dusty zenith]

No you missed one thing

[ripe carbon]

there is only 2 pairs

[dusty zenith]

You forgot to spam here endlessly asking what is bis

[distant plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-gif-4610541527149907170

[shadow patio]

whys my kingsbane doin 0 dmg

i have shiv up

during its entire cd

[vocal minnow]

was er fix noted anywhere officially?

[dusty zenith]

I never saw verbiage on blue posts yet

[balmy condor]

why do I have 5 pings

in the last 10 min

hello

[stuck knoll]

Are you dumping lots of casts during it

[balmy condor]

thank you

you want another one?

[stuck knoll]

Poison applications buff it

[balmy condor]

[sturdy stirrup]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/908912109142827082/1079578526623215656/ezgif-3-af1195d740_1.gif

[dusty zenith]

How it’s 4am and you can still form sentences amazes me

[shadow patio]

maybe i dont understand how it works fully

[stuck knoll]

This is his peak mentally

[balmy condor]

my gf fell asleep on call listening to some tiktok from a standup comedian making fun of white people inventing taco tuesdays

so I've heard the same 45 second standup clip

about 15 times

[dusty zenith]

Do I need to Uber eats you some Red Bull

[balmy condor]

"yo quiero taco bell ahora" we all say in unison

"cracker barrel es mi vida" my brain repeats

I cannot stop

[shadow patio]

oh so you want to deathmark

[balmy condor]

the voices are getting louder

[shadow patio]

then kingsbane?

sorry nooby question

[balmy condor]

the order doesn't Really matter

but kingsbane is shorter than deathmark

[strange python]

Hey guys, any tips (mainly for raiding) to maximise uptime on mark? I think my main issue is not being familiar with timings but there were a few times, for example on twins, where big bug dashed with 2 stacks of mark on him so was left with a tricky decision of chasing and popping for dn or hitting little bug without mark. Just one example but any thoughts are appreciated

[solemn drift]

did they fix deathstalker s mark being reapplied with anima combo?

[balmy condor]

so it's just more efficient to fit kb into deathmark

[balmy condor]

pins my boi

[strange python]

In this example vanish is down as used during opener

[balmy condor]

just gotta know timings better or avoid hitting the thing you know will dash away

[shadow patio]

i've got to be doing something wrong tho. Im conffused

[balmy condor]

7% Kb

is that what

2 min?

[shadow patio]

4min

[balmy condor]

yeah that seems reasonable

[shadow patio]

right?

[balmy condor]

I think deathstalker KB is like 8%?

in sims at least

call it some bad rng on crits

[shadow patio]

im shiving too

[balmy condor]

close enough

[shadow patio]

alright

[balmy condor]

I'm looking at this

for 5 min

and that's with windfury

which props it up a bit

[left sundial]

caustic splander not applys sometimes

[balmy condor]

maybe call it 7.7%

[left sundial]

am i trippin or ?

[balmy condor]

you are

[left sundial]

4 mutilate in row

no caustic

[balmy condor]

does the target have rupture

[stuck knoll]

If you don’t have poisons or rupture

[balmy condor]

and poisons

[subtle tundra]

Poison and rupture

[stuck knoll]

It won’t do it

[modest gale]

is it worth to upgrade from 610 to 619 hero dagger ?

[cunning basin]

Do you have rupture applied to the target?

[tacit wedge]

Do you have rupture up

[modest gale]

or save

[left sundial]

yes i have

[balmy condor]

do you have

rupture

[dusty zenith]

Poison harder on the next mutilate

[balmy condor]

poison

[left sundial]

yep

[subtle tundra]

Deadly poison

Is on?

[tacit wedge]

Show proof

[balmy condor]

yolo go for it

if you have poison, rupture, and you mutilate, it applies caustic

and I have never seen or heard it doing otherwise

[cunning basin]

Are you talented into caustic? It is a talent.

[dusty zenith]

You can hear it spatter too

[balmy condor]

are you?

[dusty zenith]

Splat sound

[left sundial]

Ahh sometimes in rotation

[tacit wedge]

Are we?

[balmy condor]

fuck

[left sundial]

i apply mutilate not rupture garrote mobs

[cunning basin]

No 😦

[balmy condor]

am I?

[left sundial]

my bad sorry fellas thanks

[solemn drift]

so we change 1 leta into resounding clar?

[balmy condor]

who am I

yes

[arctic bramble]

Does this require a specific range? I notice sometimes when I cast garrote / rupture on the same target they don’t really spread

[cunning basin]

Who are you?

[tacit wedge]

Infexious alt account

[balmy condor]

[balmy condor]

carnage has a range yes

you can't just rupture things from a billion miles away

[tacit wedge]

Pls gimme the pawn string

[pulsar apex]

wax is main hand only?

[balmy condor]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds

[stuck knoll]

Ye

[pallid bough]

hiiiii @balmy condor

:3

[dapper cradle]

Lmfao these are amazing

[balmy condor]

oh god what in gods name could you want from me at this ungodly hour

[pallid bough]

I AM JUST SAYING HI

[balmy condor]

you either come say hi with nothing attached

[pallid bough]

god

you hate me

[balmy condor]

or you come with eldritch question

no I love you

I'm just scared

cause you ask complicated questions

[pallid bough]

nah just saying hi lmao

[balmy condor]

pfew

[cunning basin]

Pure terror lmao

[pallid bough]

my brain is rotting from pvp rn

[tacit wedge]

Blud gave Whispyr ptsd

[cunning basin]

PvP 🤢

[gusty mirage]

Damn that’s fucked up

[pallid bough]

cant ask any questions

[balmy condor]

hollow the type of mfer to hit me up and be like hey did you ever think about......

and I'm sitting there like

damn.

I didn't think.

[grim jay]

just go in, win and be done. thats what I did, it saved me from some rot

[cunning basin]

And now you'll never be able to not think

[indigo mulch]

Omg I've forgotten about that guy.

[fallen arch]

Is he still around

[tacit wedge]

Infexious is forever gone... No more funny man with magic numbers that makes "hemorrhage strong"

[pallid bough]

I did but solo shuffle rot my brain

[balmy condor]

bro that's the shit that keeps me up

[gusty mirage]

You’re already king brain rot bud

[balmy condor]

no

he got a life

[fallen arch]

Good on him

[pallid bough]

okay but its not THAT bad

[left sundial]

@balmy condor why you prefer fatebound bro

[balmy condor]

cause I have a crippling gambling addicition

[grim jay]

mfer doesnt appear for a week and hits me with an insult. god how I missed you honey

[fallen arch]

Less headaches

[balmy condor]

idk it's fun

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/pay-respects-press-f-call-of-duty-respect-press-x-gif-22309724

[cunning basin]

Same. Thinking about some diabolical string of words a guildie said to me now I can't sleep and it's 3 pm the next day

[indigo mulch]

He was such a good guy. Always spreading the good word.

[gusty mirage]

To all the % breakpoint questions

[indigo mulch]

He's almost as good as izen

[tacit wedge]

So the day you disappear, we shouldn't not be sad because you're gone, but happy because you're freed from the shackles?

[indigo mulch]

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/scratching-koala-koala-koala-bear-drop-bear-fluffy-gif-11913187552090775988

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/koko-hug-robin-williams-gif-12040338

[pallid bough]

https://tenor.com/view/sniff-gif-25274207

[tacit wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-4822326163116896763

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-gif-25945486

[stuck knoll]

Ily

[cunning basin]

Let's go gambling!

[earnest remnant]

[tacit wedge]

Man I love gambling, everyday I wake up at 4, take a freezing cold shower then proceed to gamble for 18 hours on Balatro

[balmy condor]

friend of mine hit me up with "judy hopps sweaty sock collection" and never elaborated. I shudder just typing it out

[gusty mirage]

Now that dust is dead what am I supposed to be mad about now?

[balmy condor]

acro

idk

ask zac

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

he's mad about everything

maybe he can give you some tips

on how to be angry

[earnest remnant]

let me in cuh

[gusty mirage]

I just washed my sheets last night come in

[indigo mulch]

Can we be mad at something thst matters instead? Like I'm really angry that Germany uses papers for everything.

[cunning basin]

I just had a co-worker ask me if I'm okay because I started choking on my water bro what the fuck lmao

[indigo mulch]

[balmy condor]

I'm mad at the fucking EU bottle caps getting in the way and now you gotta like hold the cap with your left hand while you hold the bottle with your right hand and you look like an absolute fucking idiot the entire time you do it

[indigo mulch]

Exactly! Good hate there whispyr

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-16704157274113773062

[tacit wedge]

Once i've typed out on the discord guild "7 rings dropped and yet no dick ring"
It made a lot of innocent raiders hate me

[balmy condor]

dude their water bottles right

the cap stays on

it's like engineered to stay on

[gusty mirage]

Wdym it stays on

[mighty torrent]

Omg so much this! Have to snap it off to even drink comfortably!

[cunning basin]

I have a guildie that changes his details names to some degenerate shit every raid day. Some of the highlights include Cum Sommelier, about 35 different Sark puns during abberus... Fuck I gotta go through my twitch vods and find some other good ones

[gusty mirage]

I need to see a visual

[rotund oak]

its attached to the plastic base of the cap

[gusty mirage]

What the motherfuck

[rotund oak]

with two ligaments

[balmy condor]

it's like

[rotund oak]

yup like that

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-16704157274113773062

[balmy condor]

you can't take it off

[cunning basin]

What the fuck

[balmy condor]

it's supposed to reduce plastic waste

but it's so insano awkward

[rotund oak]

u can pull it off

[tacit wedge]

My details name used to be a 300 words essay that would cause anyone that hover my name in fight to have a lagspike

I'm scrapping dps everywhere i can

[gusty mirage]

But… it’s more plastic to add that little strip

[ripe carbon]

do u guys do belts/boots for embelish or what?

[gusty mirage]

[dusty zenith]

Wrist belt

[worthy bear]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[dusty zenith]

Boot can work too if you’re in a pinch

[balmy condor]

yeah but I guess the argument is that it's more likely to be recycled? man idk I'm not a part of the european parliament go ask them

[cunning basin]

He has a code he lives by "I restrict myself to the base details limit so everyone can always see the full name"

[gusty mirage]

@marble hemlock you type like you’re part of the EU regulatory body, what the fuck

[cunning basin]

Kind of a power move tbh

[balmy condor]

We have a guy in guild who has the details name "femboyhog" and then I realized that's just his actual character name

[onyx rock]

Well you can rip it off but then you spill the drink

[gusty mirage]

Europeans have to walk around with little scissors to enjoy their bottled bevvies

[empty citrus]

Guys how do we feel about kingsbane in pvp

[gusty mirage]

Tragic honestly

[balmy condor]

#pvp

[cunning basin]

One of my old guildies had a couple character names I can't believe never got reported like Ratiomypuss and Ineedegirl and uh

[timid marsh]

hey guys, im a returner and playing Rogue since TBC, i wanted to share if my performance is ok im 598iLvL and my Dps in raidbot is 810DPS and in solofights 500 ra, should be higher for that iLvl or no? im still unsatisfied with my dps in M0 and raids.

[cunning basin]

Another much worse one lmao

[copper hazel]

some of the bottles have a lil trick where you can flip it the opposite direction and itll snap off

[balmy condor]

oh shit I forgot royal wanted gem sim

[gusty mirage]

[empty citrus]

I feel like there's overlap between topics. This is an assassination tab and I asked an assassination related question

[gusty mirage]

If royal can collect grey items for tmog he can sim his own damn gems

[tacit wedge]

I just have my own bottle with tap water

[empty citrus]

Id there's a ven diagram. I hit a spot on the middle with that question

People are so rigid for why

[copper hazel]

oxi gets me rigid

[dusty zenith]

Go on

[balmy condor]

no one in this channel pvp's I'm just trying to get you a better answer man why are you upset at me for helping you

[empty citrus]

My B

I thought you were trying to be anal

[gusty mirage]

[empty citrus]

Like all those guys in reddit who are like "tHeReS a sUb FoR tHaT"

[balmy condor]

first mistake was "guys on reddit"

[empty citrus]

I'm used to reddit chuds berating

[balmy condor]

shiver just thinking about that

3 word horror story

[rotund oak]

imagine reading dudes on reddit

bruh

[tacit wedge]

Dudes on Reddit is the modern Infexious

[rotund oak]

[dusty zenith]

Is it bad I put the search term Reddit at the end of all my google searches ?

[balmy condor]

brainrot

[novel star]

anyways deathstalker really does feel insanely smooth with the er fix

didnt play it until like 10 min ago in arakara

shit is fun

[normal mist]

no more coin flippin?

[balmy condor]

@normal mist socket is roughly worth 9 ilvl on wrist or 5 ilvl on ring/neck

[indigo mulch]

But.. What about the coin flipping?

[novel star]

i still prolly coinflip in raid cause i wanna actually think about the mechanics

[timid marsh]

🙂

[novel star]

but

[normal mist]

Thank you. Not worth it to craf 610 then

[tacit wedge]

Idc how good Deathstalker is, i have a gambling dedication

[novel star]

the fun gap is a lot smaller for me now

forcing 7cp doesnt happen quite as often

[balmy condor]

"the fun gap"

[novel star]

which was my main gripe

[novel star]

LMFAO

how else do i say it

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/stuff-stuffing-cream-filling-donut-gif-12251796153433809971

[ripe carbon]

ignore that

[novel star]

ah hell nah

[balmy condor]

already ignored

[ripe carbon]

i mean my deleted message

[dusty zenith]

We talking about fun gaps right now anyways

[pulsar plank]

Should I use rupture or garrote on worn off targets in aoe except I have vanish?

[balmy condor]

aight 5am time for a nice little shower and bed time and then wake up at 11 and then see gf and be happy and surely nothing will happen on a weekend that will require my burning attention right

[dusty zenith]

Good night sweet prince

[novel star]

new er bug patched in over night hf bud!

[pulsar plank]

I only keep on marked target

[novel star]

always keep your bleeds up

regardless of if you have vanish or not

[ripe carbon]

how are u guys doing with lining in raid uptime?

[novel star]

no bleeds = no energy = no damage

[subtle tundra]

I'll take care of it

If anything happens

[dusky carbon]

why is spelunker's candle trinket considered so bad when spyglass is S tier?

[balmy condor]

Okay nvm that reminded me about trinket tuning and redoing the trinket tier list along with it and now I’m sad again

[novel star]

ilvl i think

[polar sinew]

hey guys i just noticed that the Passive Critical Strike from Dawnthread isnt stacking, like I see the buff on my char but not stacked twice or showing +1512 crit as intended, only one stack at 756 ?

[balmy condor]

!dawnthread

[prisma monolith]

Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.

[novel star]

cant get myth track delve gear

so its just kind of auto mid

unless the effect is really good

[polar sinew]

thanks

[balmy condor]

Okay now that oli is a slow beta and I did chat command faster I can shower in peace yep

[pulsar plank]

So, what I should do in general do all the bleeds/posions and during that time fan of knives into envenom. When bleeds wears off I'll do Garrote/fan of knives/mutilate(Spatter) to build and do rupture? Depending on how long the mob lives

[tawdry sedge]

Holy shit Blizzard never seizes to amaze

[bitter saddle]

Did I read right

[novel star]

i was typing about something elSEEEEEEEEE

[bitter saddle]

Er got fixed?

[dusky carbon]

ah so the candle is probably good if you are of appropriate ilvl then right?

[novel star]

mostly just keep 5 ruptures up

5/6 bleeds will be enough to mash buttons and never run out of energy

and 5 ruptures = +20% agility

dont worry about garrote too much

non stealth garrotes are pretty meaningless

just press one or two if ur down bad for energy

but you shouldnt be

[pulsar plank]

Ah okay thanks. That was a big help

Thank you so much

[novel star]

np glhf

[solemn drift]

did we get nerfed

[novel star]

nop

[solemn drift]

yday i was pumping

[novel star]

no changes

[solemn drift]

now i barely do that much

[orchid gust]

any1 got the trickster weakaura/macro working? i have pasted in this text
Rogue:
#showtooltip Tricks of the Trade
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

and downloaded the macro, it should select the tank automatically? or how should it work?

[robust axle]

lmao

[novel star]

whats in ur party

[wooden timber]

is there a way to macro shadowstep to jump to my mouseover target and if the target is an enemy swap my target to them but if its a friendly leave my target on whatever it was previously

[spice surge]

Theres a whole bunch of troubleshooting on the WA page for it

[wooden timber]

or does that idea not work

[novel star]

everyone has higher ilvl and at a certain point bursty classes are still going to just beat you even in m0

same thing that happened with hc

but no we didnt get any nerfs only outlaw did

[orchid gust]

struggling asf to even understand the troubleshooting tbh thats why iam asking here 🙂

[solemn drift]

idk 600 ppl

[pulsar plank]

Oh one more thing so non stealth garrote does not matter even if it's on marked target?

[novel star]

if youre gonna press it on anyone press it on ur prio target yeah

[robust axle]

you want it on your main target yes

[novel star]

its still not like necessary tho

pressing garrote button without imp garrote + ic is just for energy

even deathmark the main value is 2x faster poison = better aoe burst cause kingsbane stacks faster and spatters

[ripe carbon]

in sim leave lining uptime as default 60 percent? or lower/higher?

[novel star]

70 is fine

[queen egret]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[edgy trellis]

!embellish

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[marble hemlock]

[worthy bear]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[gusty mirage]

You got something to say?

[safe shale]

They fix ER bug? seems to be working for me now?

Just used DsM on 4 points

[spring socket]

we want dawnthread lining on crafted yeah ?

[novel star]

^

theyre pretty close together

[novel star]

yup

[spiral steeple]

any estimates on how much worse is dagger+wrist in m+ ?

[fallow estuary]

I was wondering, why wrist/belt - what about boots?

[spiral steeple]

that usually comes down to what stats are available on the highest itemlvl items for the season

[somber nimbus]

really overthinking my rotation during raid vs mythic +. I got it down during m+ but in raid I still feel iffy on how to approach putting bleeds on priority targets especially with add phases such as with silken court and the Ovi'xa.

[spiral steeple]

that really depends on the raid group and how fast shit dies

[somber nimbus]

I mean my thing is am i wasting my time putting bleeds up on targets

or should i just spam envenom with CS on priority target

[spiral steeple]

cs ?

[grand jay]

splatter

[white holly]

!sim

[somber nimbus]

caustic splatter

[grand jay]

it all depends on how long stuff lives

[spiral steeple]

yeah if they live long enough the bleed is worth it

[somber nimbus]

really struggled on silken court

[spiral steeple]

if not its not

u really just have to get a feel for it hard to make a strict rule to follow

[somber nimbus]

so on those two bosses, i tried to keep my bleeds up on both

[spiral steeple]

yeah thats for sure

and fok instead of muti

to keep poison on both and get more energy regen

[novel star]

well this depends

[somber nimbus]

i thought you dont fok

[novel star]

i think its just better to press a mutialte on the 2nd target

[somber nimbus]

if no thrown precission

[novel star]

ye

[spiral steeple]

yeah that may be true

[novel star]

need that talent + deathstalker

[somber nimbus]

unless three or more

[novel star]

to hit fan on 2

[spiral steeple]

not sure how much of a difference it makes tho]

[novel star]

ur also just more likely to get the poison applied from mutilating

and more cp income

[somber nimbus]

i feel i get more cps from mut

[novel star]

ye

[somber nimbus]

with just 2 targets

[novel star]

i mean fan has to crit on both for 1+2cp

mut crits once 2+1

or twice and ur ahead

[spiral steeple]

its also kinda weird to manage the spatter if you are using mut on multiple targets tho

[novel star]

i mean not really

it just moves to whatever one you mutilated

[spiral steeple]

yeah but the mark doesnt move

so you either envenom without cs up

[novel star]

ye but then just mut back on the dsm target before u envenom

[spiral steeple]

or without the mark up

[spiral steeple]

then you may be wasting cp becouse u already at 5+

[somber nimbus]

yea thats my thing tha i struggle

[umbral pike]

Is there anyone that could sit down with me to review my logs? I parsed super low and really want to understand where I should improve and what I need to focus on in my rotation. I really like my guild and want to stick with them into Mythic but if I keep up in my performance Ill be cut pretty quick.

[novel star]

u can only get 5cp from one mut on fatebound

tho

[somber nimbus]

once i switch should i place caustic splatter on new target

if the add will die in 3-4 globals probably not

[spiral steeple]

sure but u wont always be muting at 0 to apply the poison cmon bro

[novel star]

always have spatter on the dsm mob

cus the plague damage shit which is like the whole tree

also spatters

[spiral steeple]

yeah u almost always want to envenom your target with mark+caustic

[somber nimbus]

so basically just keep my priority target with cs unless it's a hard focus mob that needs to die asap

[novel star]

ye

[spiral steeple]

unless prio damage is way more important than dps

[somber nimbus]

i did so bad in raid

like shit bad

[novel star]

i havent even raided yet so ill prolly do garbage too

[somber nimbus]

vs mythic +

[novel star]

i just have the theory cause ive read the same guide 500 times in the last month

[somber nimbus]

no idea where to pop cds, losing uptime on cds, bad openers

[spiral steeple]

raid mostly comes down to knowing the fights tbh

[novel star]

ye all that u just said is knowledge shit

except opener i guess

if ur messing up an opener u gotta training dummy for a bit

[somber nimbus]

yea i was losing my mind with the opener

never had to worry about

until raid

[spiral steeple]

just hit the target dummy for 15 min and u will get it down

its not that hard you just gotta put it down to memory

that and the kingsbane windows

[somber nimbus]

every time i tried shadow stepping it would put in combat asap and not be able to ambush, unless i was messing that up too

on the opener

[spiral steeple]

on pull?

[somber nimbus]

do you guys shadow step to boss, yes

[spiral steeple]

bad idea :)

[somber nimbus]

or just walk up and ambush

lol

i figured that

after sevral pulls

[spiral steeple]

u re gonna get the first auto more often then not

[somber nimbus]

i had to be quick and i would get the ambush up

but then other times I would not

[thorn crater]

uhm i have concotion kiss of death simming 7k over ara kara trinket

dafuck

[royal lantern]

its a active trinket

[thorn crater]

i mean it also prefers it to the scroll of momentum crap

the one giving MS

[dusty zenith]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[fallow estuary]

did i miss something?

i can't consume deathstalker marks anymore

i apply them, but 5+ cps dont consume any so the mobs stays with 3 marks

[spice surge]

Gotta use darkest night first now

Unintended side effect of the ER fix, should get fixed pretty soon from what we know

[fallow estuary]

i see

that explains, ty

[somber nimbus]

how are you guys handling cds on silken court, i pop mine on pull and hold for next charge

[dusty zenith]

IF we are running MA do we ambush and mutilate on the opener? or go right into garrote and rupture?

[orchid cedar]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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[indigo mulch]

We thought that about the rc bug as well. Took them quite a long time to fix that =0

[hushed summit]

!craft