assassination

[hidden light]

where sunglasses......

[silver wave]

and not to mention bliz could change anything anytime

[keen spruce]

I always keep the sunglasses on outside

[wanton spear]

they were on

[silver wave]

Bliz: oh people are having fun on (class)? we can't have that.. /nerfbat

[keen spruce]

Did you put sunscreen on them?

[wanton spear]

body just wasn't used to the southern sun

[hidden light]

I live in the south and my body isn't used to the southern sun

[wanton spear]

key west heat index was like 110 average

[rough hull]

look at shadows and rets and firemages... they had fun for an entire addon before the /nerfbat

[keen spruce]

I touched grass all spring and summer after quitting wow and I have the most savage sock tan in history

[silver wave]

true

[wanton spear]

i'm from the north lol and have light blue princess eyes that get bothered by moonlight

[keen spruce]

It’s an actual war crime

[silver wave]

an actual war crime? like mixing skittles and M&Ms in the same bowl?

[keen spruce]

My feet are like a time capsule of a 2 year wow bender. And my legs look a Florida keys leathery retired boat owner

[silver wave]

lol

[wanton spear]

lol

[real pike]

another dumb question from me, with the updated build do we no longer refresh garotte in the KB window?

[eager tree]

have blizz even acknowledged the ER/Deathstalker bug?

[next dagger]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[dry wren]

Look at the images, the timeline is wonky

We still do

[silver wave]

what is it?

[hollow gyro]

My sim sends a vanish into an ambush with the updated build

[real pike]

not seeing it there, that's why I'm asking

[slate crown]

Correct.

[eager tree]

ER is supposed to make the combo points act as if you've spent 7, but it wont reapply the deathstalker mark you get at a 7 point envenom. you have to actually get to 7 CPs

[dry wren]

But we run improved garrote, so look at that timeline

[silver wave]

ahh

[orchid cedar]

the also don't discount DS mark

even tho you are spending 5+ combo points

[real pike]

not any more in ST

[slate crown]

You don’t run imp garrote if playing VV for the raid build

[dry wren]

My bad, you're right, guess forget everything I said and throw that garrote in the trash

[real pike]

ahaha my sim still refreshes it tho

[chilly mist]

What's the reason for the ambush? To not have to go for 7cp?

[real pike]

I would imagine with DM up it's worth refreshing but it's not in the timeline so kinda confused

[tired gull]

quicker mark refresh and double dip the DN consumption with a stack consumption\

[arctic socket]

Opener got changed? Ayo

If it was always that I’m stupid

[chilly mist]

Ohhh cool

[dry wren]

Yeah, I'm so used to refreshing garrote in the DM window

[balmy condor]

Fuck me

[spice spire]

This isn’t the reason

[tired gull]

I should build you a png generator based on talents

[arctic socket]

That’s mean

[balmy condor]

I don’t need a png generator It’s just human error and too many variants

[slate crown]

Images are awful. My GIFs are out of date like 2 versions and I don’t want to re-record them, it’s such a pain

[spice spire]

Just use cat gifs that’s the good stuff

[spice spire]

Apologies bud

Just yoking

[tired gull]

https://random.cat/

[frigid copper]

Cat gif of cat hitting the right buttons

[silver wave]

https://tenor.com/view/kravatie-kravate-viva-kravatie-french-cat-gif-25816617

[radiant raven]

Good cat gif

[tired gull]

hon hon hon

[lusty thicket]

so if we are playing vv raid spec, we ignore clear the witness proc alltoeghter?

[orchid cedar]

the dinamic opener thing got fucked up?

[tired gull]

correct

[loud trench]

did imp posions vs imp garrote just get updated in the guide builds with lethality 2/2 or have they always been there lol, it simmed like 1k higher for imp posions anyway but just checking

[tired gull]

yes

[lusty thicket]

ok

[novel star]

[spice spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648031568756998158/1270732421930942659/6P4G4_O1GI095KVU3C9.gif

[tired gull]

incredible

[frigid copper]

Didn’t know I needed this today, but holy shit yes

[chilly mist]

Fairly recent change I think? Noticed it too but I might just be blind 0.0

[radiant raven]

that is getting posted in so many discord servers right now

[loud trench]

same, it sims higher so that seems right just curious

[balmy condor]

Always been better

[tired gull]

the cat is ulgrax eating all the chunks

[balmy condor]

True

[loud trench]

is caustc spatter worth taking vs internal bleed for say, first boss of palace? with a smol add phase during feeding? trying to judge when its worth for raid (before we have logs to judge ><)

[tired gull]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/nerub-ar-palace-raid-tips

[errant night]

guys, is everything ok here?

[loud trench]

aweome

[tired gull]

whispyr's initial thoughts for talents we'll likely be playing

[real pike]

I really wish there was some kind of area with training dummies where you can press a button to reset all your cooldowns

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[jolly bolt]

xD

ignore me

too many discords

[lusty thicket]

I think you want to remove imp gar and put the point in improve poisons for this build

[royal lantern]

if 100% ST, you play internal bleeding

if sometimes you need some aoe, spatter

if you actually Fight multiple targets/have adds for extended periods, you take improved garrote+sanguine and possibly Crimson Tempest

does that sum it up for you?

[haughty flicker]

now can you explain it in uwu talk

[real pike]

sounds like too much thinking for myself, I'll just use whispyr's builds on the guide

[royal lantern]

ita 5pm and i just came home and im tired, more of an ZwZ mood rn

[haughty flicker]

its only 11 am what are you on about

weirdo

[royal lantern]

i can time travel

[storm stone]

new rogue ability?

[spice spire]

if 100% st, you pwaie intewnaw bweedim

if sometimes you need some aoe, spattew

if you actuawwie fight muwtipwe tawgets/have adds fow extended pewiods, you take impwoved gawwote+sanguine and possibwie cwimson tempest

[errant night]

can you please explain why? i thought it was an important part of rotation (use vanish then imp garrote)

[spice spire]

Hope this helps king

[oblique kiln]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds

[real pike]

something else now better

[haughty flicker]

thanks i hate it

[royal lantern]

self proclaimed tops be like:

[spice spire]

Imp garrote does less damage

[oblique kiln]

Whetstone goes on top of wax?

[tired gull]

wax first, then whetstone

[lost hamlet]

they... stack?

[haughty flicker]

no

wax goes on mainhand

[lusty thicket]

I believe its because you arent using sanguine with this build

[tired gull]

wax mainhand, stone offhand

[spice spire]

Also cleft is very easy farm

[haughty flicker]

whetstone on offhand

[oblique kiln]

For MH and OF

[lost hamlet]

Oh MH/OH

[spice spire]

Got 30 in like ten minutes

[errant night]

oh ok

[storm stone]

OF🔞

[spice spire]

[errant night]

but the other talents are ok, right? just change imp garrote to imp poisons

[jaunty nest]

when u reckon server be up?

[spice spire]

🔮

[tired gull]

ideally when they say

[dim estuary]

Hello ! Does rogue benefit well from DH tank magic debuff ?

[haughty flicker]

it benefits our nature damage

and shadow for sub

[lusty thicket]

You want arterial

[haughty flicker]

so to a degree

[chilly mist]

6am ST is what I've heard

but no clue

[jaunty nest]

huhh?

server time?

[spice spire]

Think they mean +0

[jaunty nest]

im in australian time

[spice spire]

Idk what ST time zone is ngl

[jaunty nest]

so what time is it now?

[errant night]

instead of improved shiv?

[jaunty nest]

yeah i never heard of ST if its a timezone

[chrome dirge]

So for single target we don't run Impg anymore

?

[errant night]

i think with imp shiv it's much faster

[tired gull]

7a-11a pacific, it's currently 8:08a pacific

[lusty thicket]

remove tiny toxic and add the point into arterial

[jaunty nest]

oooo ok ty ty

[spiral gale]

Grab us some zinger boxes

[jaunty nest]

i gotchu

what drink u want?

wait

u guys dont got zinger boxes?

[spiral gale]

Nope

[jaunty nest]

what u guys have>

[errant night]

that's it

[wanton spear]

is there ever a world where the severed thread trinket isn't complete garbage?

[real pike]

when I'm logging on a training dummy do I have to make sure I'm out of combat before ending the log?

[balmy dome]

We getting a patch day pre raid pin?

[spiral gale]

Apparently the same zinger kinda made its way to the US recently

So that's kinda hype

[thorn crater]

Uhm

Just saw a trinket for the first time it’s a candle

[tired gull]

🕯️

[plucky river]

Is this wax whetstone talk super important because ima be honest I have no idea what yall talking about 😂

[wanton spear]

i love my candle trinket

[thorn crater]

Got it from a chest I see it’s c tier

[tired gull]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds

[spiral gale]

I have the crit candle. It appears on my head

[thorn crater]

Quickwick candlestick

[wanton spear]

its boe

[plucky river]

Is it like an augment for your weapons?

[iron valve]

kobold tier set for rogues pls

[tired gull]

jack be nimble, jack be quick, jack be quickwick candlestick

[tired gull]

yeah, you can apply 1 to mainhand, 1 to offhand

[velvet ridge]

Where get

[wanton spear]

random world drop

[thorn crater]

I got it from the weekly

[orchid cedar]

so wax main hand stone offhand

[thorn crater]

Chest

[wanton mirage]

speed pog

[orchid cedar]

couse it's bugged

holy shit the bugs

[silver wave]

i got that trink somewhere but i don't remember where

[thorn crater]

Since the only thing mentioned for that trinket is that it suffers from low ilvl

Then at delve 8 for example if it drops it’s gonna be good no?

[silver wave]

not sure if it's good or not but it simmed higher than what I had so i'm using it

[tired gull]

not raiding today, and starting tomorrow, what's the over under on getting 8 usable items from delves

[thorn crater]

You’re simmin blue gear?

Oof

[tired gull]

it's what's currently available

[raven egret]

This is it bois, season starting

[iron valve]

I forgot there already is one

[spice spire]

Miss me w that

Packing it in

[spice surge]

You can only do 4 bountiful delves a day

[spice spire]

See u bois next xpac

[spice surge]

so

[velvet ridge]

Well, he said tomorrow

[tired gull]

hence i'm able to do 8 before my guild raids, but i'll probably get 4 pairs of shoulders

[spice spire]

[tired gull]

i got a 554 delve helm the other day that had an on equip, what other kinds of things will delve gear have

[pure moth]

you can only do 4 bountiful a day btw. unless regular delves are ok

[tired gull]

yes, but not raiding today means i do 4 today, and 4 tomorrow

[pure moth]

sounds like you got time, so perfect

[normal mist]

I'm so hyped to go inside the raid without even seeing any goddamn guide and just be smashed left and right

[spice spire]

I should call her

[flat sentinel]

lol 😂 it looks quite easy on normal / herioc but obv havnt seen last boss yet

[autumn frost]

Wait they getting rid of cut to the chase?

yay!

[digital cipher]

Yo, the guides don’t make it clear at all, is Desthstalker or Fatebound generally better for Assa? I imagine it’s deathstalker but I can’t see a statement anywhere about which is better in certain situations etc

[digital cipher]

Yes it’s a huge W

[normal mist]

No more casting SnD

[silver wave]

that's amazing

[normal mist]

But it's only after 11.0.5

Aka in a few months

[delicate egret]

Are we supposed to be using vanish to reapply mark outside of the opener? Or is this only done in the opener?

[normal mist]

Read the capstone

Of deathstalker

[tired gull]

there's a minor optimization to also use vanish ambush without imp garrote

[spice spire]

DN

[shy marten]

why would you press vanish but not get your imp garrote dam out?

[normal mist]

It's minor, hard to explain if people don't understand the capstone

[normal mist]

Optimizations

[tired gull]

if
you
don't
have
imp
garrote

[shy marten]

oh you mean without the talent not without pressing it

[digital cipher]

So I’m guessing deathstalker is better than fatebound?

[tired gull]

Typically, but they're close enough to play what you want

[arctic socket]

Any blue posts yet with changes?

[normal mist]

No

[arctic socket]

Sadge

[normal mist]

Doubt there will be any

Maybe in a few days

[vague grove]

Can smoe pr0 help me a bit? Im training my rotation to dummy but very often I have situation when I need to wait for energy to recharge for a good 2-3seconds to hit again. Is there some sort of haste soft cap that I should aim or something?

[tired gull]

might be some tuning for next week, we'll have to see how raid goes this week

[normal mist]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[normal mist]

Pro here helping

[vague grove]

Thank you!

😄

[delicate egret]

I know what the capstone does. But I was thinking that since the capstone leads to some degree of combo point waste, vanish --> ambush to reapply might be a slight DPS improvement.

[heady pebble]

what is the potential dps gain from ER fix?

[loud trench]

DS seems to pull way ahead though in adds/cleave with singular focus on the sim i just ran, like 80K apart lol, is that typical?

[tired gull]

1%

[normal mist]

You're telling me 1 vanish ambush every 2 mins it's something you should care about?

[autumn frost]

Are we supposed to keep energy above 50% to get that increased bleed poison damage?

[marble bough]

hey, quick question about stat prio for mythic raiding. Wowhead shows Crit over Mastery, but IcyVeins is Mastery over Crit. Does it matter or is it all roughly the same?

[delicate egret]

I am asking if it should be

[tired gull]

minor optimizations

[lusty thicket]

Anyone know which is simming higher for ST - with or with out vv build?

[arctic socket]

On st we don’t take that talent anymore

[normal mist]

No bro don't go down the rabbit hole

[delicate egret]

Aight, thanks!

[autumn frost]

Oh thank you.

[arctic socket]

You always sim your pieces by piece

[gritty laurel]

FB does, but yeah DS drops it

[spice spire]

Your stat prio changes over time since we like it all

Don’t focus and sim

[normal mist]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[spice spire]

Like rn my ring enchants are haste because that’s what my profile wants

[normal mist]

I swear me and Moroes are buddies

[spice spire]

[novel horizon]

random question but where does the stormriders fury enchant come from? im guessing its a drop somewhere?

[arctic socket]

Wowhead it

[novel horizon]

i have been, its not giving me a location

[marble bough]

ok, well the main reason I ask is cause our Loot Distributor is making a spreadsheet and was looking for basic stat prio for gear. But I agree that simming is best ultimately, but for a quick reference for him to give out loot

[tired gull]

wowhead says trainer

[normal mist]

Tell him you want ilvl

And daggers

[arctic socket]

[spice spire]

Oh yeah In that case, just go for ilvl and the specific trinkets that you want

Rest doesn’t matter

Frfr

[marble bough]

based

[normal mist]

🤝 @spice spire

[arctic socket]

That’s a serious answer ilvl over stats

[marble bough]

sounds good, appreciate the info

thanks

[arctic socket]

And there’s like really 0 sin chase trinkets from raid

Besides that one

Gun looking icon one

[normal mist]

Stats for us are so close that we don't care about what we get but we care about ilvl number go up

[autumn rover]

Crit for FB. Mastery for DS

[spice spire]

I never chase the bag, the bag chases me dog

[normal mist]

Yep I'll be farming grim batol and siege everyday

[arctic socket]

Are you on na

[spice spire]

Isn’t it GB and City?

[arctic socket]

We can farm together

[spice spire]

Ara Kara, not threads

[normal mist]

I told you already I was EU xD

[arctic socket]

You suck

Spyglass n grim trinket sims highest

Atm

[normal mist]

They are perfect

[marble bough]

makes sense, first tier is usually low stats so probably won't reach the cap at least in the early part 👍

[normal mist]

Passive critical + mastery on use

[normal mist]

Yeah. If your loot distributor complains, tell him the wowhead guide writer told you so

[marble bough]

lol perfect, I'll let him know

[normal mist]

(which is whispyr btw)

[tired gull]

first grim batol run dagger + trinket plz

[arctic socket]

Fuck the dagger

Give me the spyglass

[normal mist]

Yes please

[tired gull]

better than my daggers

[late surge]

gimme the ring from grim batol

[arctic socket]

Fuck that

[normal mist]

That's not from gb

[arctic socket]

Craft ring

Craft wep

[late surge]

based

gimme trinket tho

[orchid cedar]

what are you guys crafting other than dagger?

[arctic socket]

still a trinket

So

[normal mist]

You want both you dick head xD

Spyglass + gb trinket

[late surge]

isnt the sac better than spyglass

[normal mist]

There are so many possibilities

[late surge]

by like margin

[normal mist]

I rather have more CRIT really

[late surge]

fuck it

gimme sac or spyglass

im not picky

[modern agate]

gb trinket

?

[late surge]

grim batol

[orchid cedar]

i know, that's why i'm asking

[late surge]

skardyns grace or w/e

[tired gull]

skardyn's

[modern agate]

roger

[orchid cedar]

i guess bracers is a safe bet

[cloud basin]

Yeah I'm doin bracers and boots with dawnthread

[normal mist]

I'll give an example:
If I drop a dagger and wrists, I craft boots and belt.

[errant night]

should i buy this dawnthread?

like 2 items

[autumn rover]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/232915274670669826/1280651980787941406/war-within-season-1-loot-upgrade-tracks-v0-m6mnyq8xbxjd1.png?ex=66d8db99&is=66d78a19&hm=2ef56357734df11448f039620fa18af4bb47073bbbd038abbca64a0d35b1554f

[cloud basin]

I mean dawnthread would be the safe option so it seems

[normal mist]

What happened

[errant night]

?

[zenith wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-cat-mad-cat-mad-death-stare-gif-2007099240114134459

[chilly herald]

I was surprised to see that this wax thing is not one turn per week. Hope they fix it

[rotund oak]

!fuu

[placid adder]

Waiting

[modest portal]

w/c 😛 not trying to leak things

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[normal mist]

Just baiting people then

[slate crown]

Yet you said something, which is one step closer to not leaking things.

[tired gull]

trying not to leak things... vaguely mentions something with no explanation

[hidden light]

ban them

baannn them

[modest portal]

meant to send this to a PM lmao.

[zenith wasp]

xd what kind of mentality is this either speak or not

[slate crown]

You could just say nothing if you have advanced information

[modest portal]

yeah, that's why I deleted

[autumn rover]

Mods do the thing 🔨

[modest portal]

sorry for bait

[normal mist]

This is what having too much free time looks like

[hidden light]

beautiful backpedal

[modest portal]

ban me if wrong tho

[vocal minnow]

unban if right

[hidden light]

my ban statement was in jest, it's the modern off with their heads

[tired gull]

first off, which wax, bubbling or valorstones

[slate crown]

U got them pics?

Oh whoops sorry meant to send in a dm

[normal mist]

Dw I sent you the best build that no one imagines

[errant night]

so I got these, what should I craft tomorrow?

[slate crown]

Oh right builds that’s what I meant

[normal mist]

Either wrists, boots, belt

[raven panther]

belt wrist ? depending on your loot but this is the best slots

[normal mist]

Hehehehe

[errant night]

so I must wait till the next week

till I spend all 14 coffer keys

and then craft. right?

[tired gull]

accurate?

[hidden light]

that resolution....

[median knot]

from a wowhead guide thing I saw bis other than mythic raid was crafter boots and wrists

[hidden light]

https://tenor.com/bk0HM.gif

[tired gull]

looks fine to me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pure moth]

blurry to me lol

[tired gull]

well fml

[slate crown]

Good

[errant night]

another question. I saw that you can place an order to craft something (616-619, right?) but it needs an enchanted runed harbinger crest. I think I can have only one of these after killing Ansurek.. am I right?

[slate crown]

Keep it blurry

[spice spire]

Accurate but blurry

[spice spire]

Don’t be a hater that’s my bit homie wtf

[tired gull]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1exJeu5eVe4bTmyg3WFx5PTxIWvDLi0j-WW-XWpGoG88/edit?gid=1489780415#gid=1489780415

found the sheet

[hidden light]

all that sheet shows is tier is pointless for most folks if accurate

[sturdy python]

so its now consensus that outlaw is the better dps spec and it's not sim errors?

[shy pecan]

No.

[tired gull]

has nothing to do with sim errors, has to do with actual execution

[hidden light]

^^

[shy pecan]

In what scenario do you hit a boss for five minutes without anything else going on?

[hidden vector]

I'll take the 5% less DPS in outlaw for being able to press and track 20 less keys

[hidden light]

no real data to see yet

84 apm vs 54 apm

[cloud basin]

I'll still play assassin but I'll build an outlaw set

[frigid kestrel]

.

[sturdy python]

makes sense

[royal lantern]

if we go by sims, outlaw would be the "better spec" for the last 8tiers now lol

[sturdy python]

gotcha thanks

[pliant remnant]

Too right, buff Assa and Sub

[spice spire]

Death

[modest portal]

believe it or not, straight to jail

[zinc kernel]

Lol, for this first week, do u recommend we use out or assa on raid?

[hidden light]

I love that sin and outlaw are polar opposites for stats too

use whatever you want tbh

Im going to start with outlaw so I can grapple all over the place while learning the mechancis dance XD

[arctic socket]

There doesn’t seem to be too many difficult mechanics

[hidden light]

you aren't factoring in the guild affix

but yeah so far it looks pretty straight forward

[tired gull]

rate my guild's raid comp for normal 😄

[earnest remnant]

[radiant raven]

more rogues

[median knot]

im the only rogue in my guilds 25 man :x

[radiant raven]

High5

[hidden light]

pro rl tip, is to have two rogues, cause they will chase each other into the stratosphere on meters. A single rogue gets distracted and starts playing with their dagger lol

[radiant raven]

I've been the only rogue in my guild for about nine years now, lmao.

[nova aspen]

[median knot]

my brother

[nova aspen]

30 man

[strong wing]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[arctic socket]

Find another group

[tired gull]

LOL fnah

[abstract needle]

when pulling ads, do i need to put caustic spatter on as many enemies as possible? or only one?

[median knot]

so is there concensus about fatebound vs deathstalker?

[tired gull]

only 1

[hidden light]

flip a coin

[abstract needle]

and just keep renew it right?

[hidden light]

heads DS tails fatebound

[royal lantern]

?

assa doesnt care about stats

[tired gull]

Limit 1

[abstract needle]

oh lol

this monk out damaged me so hard

[tired gull]

And yeah, press mutilate every 10 seconds

[edgy orbit]

what dungeon?

[abstract needle]

the church one

[arctic socket]

I’m surprised that mage is that low

[edgy orbit]

low ilvl?

[abstract needle]

im getting confused when to invenom on packs and when to crimson tempest

[median knot]

ive found with tanks not stopping between packs alot of times you cant get a restealth so you cant spread bleeds and it ruins our damage anyone else?

[abstract needle]

hes 579 im 564

[wheat bone]

Yo boys mainly, and what talends do you recommend for tomorrow raiding??

https://gyazo.com/035ee5eb180c457bc8d38bd6528fe5da

Thats my boy

[tired gull]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/nerub-ar-palace-raid-tips

[abstract needle]

do i even need to invenom on ads pack?

[hidden vector]

Any good videos for m+ rotation?

[tired gull]

yes, into your spatter

[solar orbit]

Yes, due to caustic

[edgy orbit]

Me doing the church. I think i was 383

583

[rugged sphinx]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[abstract needle]

so i make bleeds, caustic, invenom and spam crimson untill caustic ends and repeat?

[wheat bone]

its that good enough?

[tired gull]

no, crimson 1 time and refresh when it gets low, otherwise envenom

[solar orbit]

No, you don't spam crimson

The whole point of caustic is that you get to use envenom for aoe

[abstract needle]

oh damn so i got it all wrong

[median knot]

you just keep crimson dot up i think

[tired gull]

yeah, you just maintain crimson, it doesn't do any frontloaded damage any more, only a DOT

[junior isle]

You think it would be beneficial to tie tea into kings with a macro for my opener but keeping tea as its own action if I need it. Idk or is that just lazy

[abstract needle]

so i bleed, crimson, caustic, invenom untill caustic ends, reproc crimson and then repeat invenom caustic?

[royal lantern]

ye

[abstract needle]

got it

[solar orbit]

Remember to pool your energy if you're not using your major cooldowns

[abstract needle]

what does that mean?

[median knot]

if you have the talent ^

[solar orbit]

is tea ogcd?

[royal lantern]

apply CT->apply bleeds until you are energy saturated->cleave with spatter and keep CT dot running

thats assa aoe

[junior isle]

Mmmmm I don’t think it is, but could be I’ll have to look when server is back up

It might be

[median knot]

its not on global

[royal lantern]

dont macro it

[real pike]

goddamn I just can't get this new rotation down why do I have to be such a smooth brained ape

[median knot]

it messes me up cause i think it is and wait before doing something else lmao

[tired gull]

preaching to the choir my boi

[solar orbit]

i wanted to play sub but I'm too monkey to use disjointed cooldownds

[junior isle]

I’ve only been playin rogue for 2 weeks, I quit during SL. Being a mage main for 15 years. So wanted to do a melee class so now rogue is where I’m at

[tired gull]

my rogue is 20yo

[shy pecan]

It’s because you all are overthinking this way too much

[junior isle]

ST rotation does feel weird with the downtown from polling envenom

[grim jay]

dont forget the part where noone is actually reading

[tired gull]

it gives you time to reflect on life choices

[real pike]

I keep having rupture drop for a couple of seconds, last xpac I was able to consistently keep it up with forward planning

but this time don't plan well enough and have to choose between refreshing a bleed or consuming DN etc

[junior isle]

My mage is from BC, his name was Aßeẞlinkin. Then for whatever reason, I don’t remember why I changed the name of my mage to Abesrouge

[tired gull]

abe blinkin is a solid name ngl

[junior isle]

Ye I thought it was pretty dope lmao. But then in SL changed it to Abe’s rogue maybe that’s why I went with rogue for my first melee champ

[errant night]

what should I change here? what do you guys think?

[lethal lintel]

Any news for maintenace is it extended?

[tired gull]

no news yet

[junior isle]

So since we aren’t using improved garotte is it best in opener Shiv>Kingsbane>Tea that’s what happened in action list of raidbot

[wanton spear]

useally extended maintenance will get announced an hour before it normally would end

[junior isle]

It also is popping my dps potion after ambush

[lethal lintel]

So as of now it’s still on track lool thanks

[pure moth]

you going for m+ i take it?

[errant night]

open world / delves

[junior isle]

Whispyr has updated talent builds for every boss on wowhead

[junior isle]

And m+/delves

[errant night]

nah I don't go m+

[junior isle]

He said we are using m+ build for delved

[wanton spear]

for FB do we natty the cb or macro it into something?

[errant night]

right. it was just my preference 🙂

[junior isle]

I think yours looks solid

[median knot]

isnt there a delve build too

[grim jay]

probably because both are dungeons

[tired gull]

natty

[tired gull]

yeah but it's the same as hybrid

[junior isle]

Can always sim with dungeon slice different talents

[median knot]

@tired gull ah i see

[errant night]

I think maybe I should change from ER (2) lethality (1) to lethality (2) and ER (1)

[wanton spear]

sim looks like it just hits cb when it comes off cd

[royal lantern]

huh

[grim jay]

huh

[junior isle]

Huh

[royal lantern]

wait, is bnet dying

[sullen phoenix]

its ded

got dc and cant log into bnet

[tired gull]

game's ded, servers aren't coming back up ever, we'll never get to play WoW ever again

[royal lantern]

the good ending

[sullen phoenix]

day before season xD

[haughty flicker]

thank god

[distant plover]

shit how would i go about finding a guild if i havent played for 6 years lmao. no logs nothing. Grind logs?

[split veldt]

are we using bubbling wax?

[tired gull]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds

[royal lantern]

its a free alternative to the other weapon consumables

im using the time

to actually check the raid

[tired gull]

i like your bacon themed discord name

[wheat bone]

Any good m+ talent tree?

[royal lantern]

[junior isle]

Raidbots is using dps potion after ambush. Instead of tied into death mark. Wonder which is more effective

[tired gull]

potion lasts 30 seconds, so it overlaps your entire opener

[misty thicket]

what professions should we go for

[junior isle]

Yeah I just was watching his video on raid and said should macro potions and trinkets into
Deathmark

[royal lantern]

also

sim bots do stuff that iss not always "human" gameplay

we dont play 100% like the sim bot

[loud trench]

For the FB talents when swapping from ST to a small add cleave, it’s just caustic spatter and then large add cleave what is the recommended talent swaps to take CT? The guides are DS specific so just seeing if there is a recommended for FB? I assume taking out imp poisons all the way down (seal of fate/lightweight shiv)? Or is taking points from MA better? Something like bloodblund horror

[tired gull]

easier to macro, either way it probably makes negligible difference

[royal lantern]

"just use pots/trinkets with CD" is more easy for players to handle and less of a hussle

and makes no real difference

[junior isle]

Understood I just, I already feel a bit behind in terms of raiding but I think assasination going to soar in m+

[tired gull]

yeah, very strong in m+, but also remember, if you're not pushing absolute top tier progression as fast as possible, 100% optimized play is just not worth it

[junior isle]

Yeah my raid team is not rwf but want to finish normal/heroic this week and start mythic next week im pre sure

[real pike]

bro how am I using 2 thistle teas in one KB and still energy starved inside the window 😭 kill me now

[upbeat gust]

Did they ever fix the echo crap?

[loud trench]

I assume you just swap imp poison, seal of fate and lightweight shiv?

[split veldt]

is ascension/writhing still in danger of getting nerfed?

[tired gull]

Possible, we'll probably find out for mythic next week

[wanton spear]

prefer not saying that i just spent an asston on it lol

[chilly mist]

Do we ever reapply Garrote/Rupture before the pandemic window to prevent having to do so during Kingsbane?

[split veldt]

yeah, time to craft my gear when servers are up for raid, but im scared lmao

[lucid meteor]

Is our tier set kinda shit?

[royal lantern]

90% of tiersets are

[tired gull]

it's a net positive, not super strong, but they've also adjusted other classes tier to bring them down

for season 1, it's probably fine

later seasons may have stronger bonuses, we shall see

[real pike]

I always try and play perfectly and refresh inside KB while doing everything else I'm supposed to and inevitably fail

[still tree]

So the new ST tech is basically just use vanish ambush in the opener after you proc DN, so that the DN empowered envenom consumes a mark instead of applying a mark?

[hidden light]

I love that mechagnomes are leading in the sims, I kinda hope it leads to a small min/max army of the mechadolls

[tired gull]

yep

[still tree]

Cool

[tired gull]

if you don't have imp garrote

[real pike]

yeah but I think you get the DN consumption benefits as well as the mark consumption benefits

but unconfirmed

[raven panther]

caustic only spread envenom right ? doens't spread any dots

[tired gull]

poison damage

[spice spire]

Hmm what’s dn

[subtle tundra]

it does.
deadly poison

[spice spire]

Have been for a long time

[real pike]

Darkest Night, the buff you get when you consume your final DsM

[tired gull]

envenom, poisons, kingsbane (it doesn't spread them, just duplicates the damage done)

[spice spire]

It’s actually deez nuts

[worn badger]

as a mechagnome since day one of their release , i fully welcome you to the mecha gnome master race

[spice spire]

(I’m so sorry you didn’t deserve that)

[real pike]

wow nah I can't believe I just missed that chance

[spice spire]

I was trying to alley Oop you bud

[tired gull]

Petition to refer to it as deez nuts from here on out

[real pike]

might just relegate myself to the Outlaw channel

[tired gull]

Consuming deez nuts

[novel star]

yea get back in there u filthy pirate

[hidden light]

oh Im not switching, I just want to lord over them as a dwarf 🤣

[tired gull]

https://tenor.com/bUkQQ.gif

[raven vapor]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds

[worn badger]

mecha gnome racial is under valued too. ability to create clones that draw agro and vanish is clutch

[real pike]

calm down now combat was not pirate

[novel star]

even worse

combat was boring

[real pike]

goats aren't pirates

[novel star]

at least outlaw has something

[worn badger]

dorfs are only used for loading into cannons to use in sieges

[spice spire]

Don’t hate on our fellow rogues

[arctic socket]

Space goat rogues

[spice spire]

Hate on the boomkin menace

[hearty galleon]

pls help cos i seem to be going mad - do Echoing reprimand combo points not work for procing Deathstalkers mark? been trying it on a Training dummy and it seemed like it sometimes does and sometimes it doesnt

[novel star]

i just did

and will again

[spice spire]

!dn

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
  Echoing Reprimand....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
  But the 3rd cp or something?
• Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
  Does Blizzard know?
• There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.

[arctic socket]

Vulperas btw in t3 look weird

[hidden light]

you can drop the T3 part

[spice spire]

Furry main

Nothing wrong with vulpera rogue

[worn badger]

Outlaw arnt rogues, they are warriors trying to dance. #bringbackcombatdaggers

[novel star]

i fw vulpera

[hidden light]

my only vulpera is named VaggieTails

[novel star]

if pandaren werent so perfect and the only good race in the entire game

id be a vulpera probably

[spice spire]

My only vulpera is named quakethree

A goat even

[arctic socket]

Panda banger

[eternal lantern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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LE's 11.0 Group
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[spice spire]

Don’t bang pandas

They’re endangered

[tired gull]

female belf/velf for idle stealth animation

[novel star]

fem panda animations clear

like all of them clear

[arctic socket]

No dude I’m saying pandas are bangers

[spice spire]

Big velf fan

[novel star]

bis animation in every category

[arctic socket]

Like the race

[spice spire]

There’s a race of pandas?

How long is it?

[haughty flicker]

why are we banging pandas wtf

[spice spire]

How many kilometers?

[arctic socket]

Female panda dance is bis

[worn badger]

pandas are too stupid to breed, thats why we have to put them in zoos

[haughty flicker]

thats probably illegal

[novel star]

pandaren kinda thick tbf

[subtle tundra]

yea pandas dumb fucks

[radiant raven]

Male Panda /sleep best. Just snoozin'

[novel star]

real pandas are fuckin stupid yea

[royal lantern]

how many children do you have?

[hidden light]

pandas arent dumb you just have unfair expectations

[royal lantern]

[radiant raven]

Real panda's are my spirit animal.

[royal python]

Do the sims account for bugs or they assume perfect implementation

[radiant raven]

No other animal can match my intellect.

[pale badger]

!en

!enchant

[worn badger]

3 lol and i live in san diego

[arctic socket]

Real pandas embrace the true world of Warcraft player

0 female Contact

No kids

[novel star]

https://tenor.com/view/panda1-panda-slide-panda-bear-bear-gif-25117967

[arctic socket]

Just eat sleep n “game”

[spice spire]

http://www.raidbots.com

[novel star]

embed failure

im gonna do it

[spice spire]

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

discord not again

[spice spire]

Ain’t no way

[worn badger]

also cant situp with out falling over..

[arctic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-failed-gif-25797566

[spice spire]

Mfs embed failing an embed fail

[real pike]

this has to be intentional

[spice spire]

It’s not

[haughty flicker]

discord is just bad

[spice spire]

Tenor died

[arctic socket]

Discord cooked

[royal lantern]

discord gifs are dead

[arctic socket]

Quake did it

[radiant raven]

damn, rip cute cat gifs.

[spice spire]

I’m always cooking

[arctic socket]

You always smellin

https://tenor.com/view/doge-dogecoin-fart-gas-stinky-gif-8945574110891947267

[worn badger]

so does anyone know what level of delve we should reliably be able to finish today ?

[spice spire]

8

Solo unsure

But

You can group with 5

[arctic socket]

Go bribe your tank friend

Then run the delves

[rose sun]

So who wants to do M0 with me so you can funnel loot to me 🙂

It will be a total vibe

[tired gull]

yeah having a tank with you will help immensely

[arctic socket]

180k per piece

500k for trinkets

[spice spire]

Bro’s whaling gear

Ain’t no way

[strange python]

do we use the catalyst week 1 after raid?

[arctic socket]

Gotta make it somehow in the economy

[rose sun]

How about feet pics of my cat

[solar orbit]

Are you gonna show the beans?

[arctic socket]

Bean pics?

[chilly mist]

Whenever it would give you 4p?

[lethal lintel]

Is the difficulty jump from heroic to m0 huge? Cause right now nothing lasts to DOT

[tired gull]

i'll probably catalyse after getting 2+ pieces

[spice spire]

FOR FREE?

[rose sun]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-cat-plink-cat-gif-1794292671885121408

[loud trench]

For “heavy aoe” in raid the FB swap is the same as the DS swap right? Removing imp positions, lightweight shiv and MA for the CT tree?

[languid tendon]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds

[arctic socket]

Only if you can convince @spice spire to post a picture of his dogs toe beans

[solar orbit]

It shouldn't be

[spice spire]

George doesn’t like his beans touched

[arctic socket]

You’re not touching them

[worn badger]

what if i post a picture of my toes in beans ?

[arctic socket]

You’re taking a picture of them

[strange python]

ok ty

[spice spire]

Nah

[arctic socket]

Do it

[lethal lintel]

I thiught m0 was previously a +10? So the jump could be huge? From heroic to m0

[arctic socket]

No balls

[spice spire]

He’s a good lad not gonna torture him

[split veldt]

so if im scared of ascension nerf and i plan to do M+, i should just go double dawnthread then yeah?

[arctic socket]

Just wait to craft

[rose sun]

No crispy you full send that shit

Do it for the gram

[arctic socket]

(Or be like me and craft two 590 with thread enchant)

[solar orbit]

The questline is a little bit wrong though, you can do Go Take Candle without doing that one, although I did On Cold, Dark Wings first, does anyone know who runs the bot?

[spice spire]

Ur either waiting or you full send don’t do a half measure

[tired gull]

blocked

[rose sun]

I can’t unsee this

[worldly sail]

for free??

[solar orbit]

what the fuck, what a terrible day to have eyeballs

[chilly mist]

standard english breakfast

[arctic socket]

Free

With beans?

[lethal lintel]

Jacket potatoes from supdman?

[split veldt]

but regardless if ascension gets nerfed or not, double thread is still bis for M+ right?

[solar orbit]

what's ascension nerf?

[arctic socket]

Do you have a healer that keeps you above 80%

[split veldt]

lol well, hmm

[rose sun]

ROFL above 80% health

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-mods-ltg-mods-fishing-spot-gif-4622672928664119494

Damn

[tired gull]

it's strong, might get nerfed

[slim tundra]

Is reprimand not using deathstalker marks a bug or intentional ?

[spice spire]

Oh mb

[solar orbit]

supposed to be a bug

[slim tundra]

Ah ok ty

[rose sun]

It will be fixed

By next expansion

[spice spire]

Surely

[split veldt]

it would be nice to get a MH right away with the full send ascension route

[tired gull]

it's an intentional bug, there only to make us have conversations about it

[split veldt]

[solar orbit]

when they remove it

[spice spire]

So many bugs have been fixed over time!

[solar orbit]

if they remove it, then it is fixed

No deathstalker mark, no bug gg

[rose sun]

Look without bugs how could there be patch notes to get players hyped and talking about wow

[haughty lantern]

Don’t worry guys all the bugs will be fixed once the raid is cleared (because they will all be dead)

[rose sun]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-gif-27108854

[arctic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/twerking-cant-sleep-insomnia-anime-bangs-gif-9741628356178296629

[haughty lantern]

Are gifs broken for anyone else?

[solar orbit]

The best patch notes are the ones that say "introduced bugs to be fixed later"

[deep radish]

Honey buzzer nerfed

[chilly mist]

yup

[arctic socket]

Good

[arctic socket]

Honey buzzer dookey

[haughty lantern]

Shirt for joining the assassin fan club

[worn badger]

i just want my self healing to be as good as every other dam melee class =/ they got our dps, why dont we get their survive

[hidden light]

where do I get this shirt?

but it needs another dagger and some salt

[arctic socket]

Do you ever press feint? Be honest

[worn badger]

i do

[tired gull]

no i just faint (die)

[worn badger]

my second favorite key

[hidden light]

macro feint to mutiliate, I thought that was the strat?

[worn badger]

its even bound to e so i press it by mistake when moving

[arctic socket]

Lmao

[tired gull]

if it's bound to e then where's your interrupt

[worn badger]

5

[tired gull]

E for Enterrupt

[spice spire]

Q

[wanton spear]

1

[spice spire]

For quit it

[tired gull]

Shift+T is for sprinT

[worn badger]

but im a 20 year old rogue. alot of my key muscle memory is from vanilla still

no, shift 1 is sprint

[hidden light]

you mean SS SS SS SS evis?

[spice spire]

Old

[wanton spear]

bro my R is still auto run since vanilla

[tired gull]

m4 = auto run

[worn badger]

people use auto run ?

[hidden light]

all the time

[somber nimbus]

yea to type and stuff

[worn badger]

i dont have a numlock key anymore =/

[bitter badger]

auto run doesn't seem immersive, my knees hurt

[novel star]

same and my auto run is on equals

cause who the fuck

[hidden light]

auto run is tilde key for me, it used to be the mouse thumb button until I went 12 button

[worn badger]

oh thats a good idea

tilde is stealth you heathen!

[tired gull]

m3 is stealth

[spice spire]

Numlock OGer

[novel star]

tilde is mount

[worn badger]

pinky press for stealth

[hidden light]

mouse button 7 is stealth!

[spice spire]

M3 is step dog what

[novel star]

that’s poisoned knife!

[wanton spear]

tilde has been vanish for 20 years lol and e stealth/gouge macro when talented

[somber nimbus]

caps is stealth for me

[tired gull]

why is that even bound

[worn badger]

m4 is envenom

[hidden light]

seee I play all classes so tilde has to be a neutral button

so auto run it is

[spice spire]

Mfs have premium buttons for pk

[novel star]

plenty of times you wanna press it

[worn badger]

knife is f, gotta throw poison on shitty ranged in pvp

[tired gull]

f = kniFe

[somber nimbus]

maybe for world content

[spice spire]

F is for fan!!!

You fools!

[worn badger]

shift r is fan!

[hidden light]

F is for Focus target

[tired gull]

F is feint

fan is c for cleave

[spice spire]

M4

[worn badger]

i miss my Ergodex gaming pad now =/

[spice spire]

You cleave with mut tho!!!

[lethal lintel]

Can anyone pls check if maintenance is extended? Im not in front of of pc now and usually they announce it an hour before which is supposedly now

[somber nimbus]

one more hour

[random fossil]

Knife is shift E

[tired gull]

not extended yet

[somber nimbus]

doesnt seem they will extend, they would announce by now

[hidden light]

still says 11am pdt here

[tired gull]

Shift E is Evasion

[spice spire]

Not always true

[random fossil]

Nah evasion is X for sure

[spice spire]

Sometimes they just rawdog it 8 minutes after

[tired gull]

x is eXtra action button

[spice spire]

Tea is x

C is extra action

[random fossil]

Extra action button is click on the thingy on my screen

C is kindey

[spice spire]

9 is kidney

[somber nimbus]

i got in a workout, i should have done more productive things like watched some raid guides

[spice spire]

[tired gull]

2 is kidney cause most people have 2 of them

[random fossil]

9 is 9

[spice spire]

We’re getting into my cooked buttons

[novel star]

ctrl q we all know this

[spice spire]

• is evasion and = is cloak

[random fossil]

Cloak is G

[haughty flicker]

huh

[somber nimbus]

cloak is mouse up, evasion mouse down

[tired gull]

cloak is Shift F cause it's just a big feint really

[small jacinth]

It’s not until tomorrow though?

[spice spire]

CT is G since fan is F

[spice spire]

NA today

[random fossil]

Fan is alt 1 for sure

[haughty flicker]

no way we're reaching all the way to = for cloak

[small jacinth]

You cheeky bastards

[spice spire]

Yessir

[haughty flicker]

[somber nimbus]

what do you mean

[random fossil]

Probably bound to mouse no?

[tired gull]

maybe quake has MASSIVE hands

[spice spire]

Nop

[random fossil]

Damn bro you wanna share some of them fingers

[spice spire]

You hitting on me or

[novel star]

isn’t raid like in an hour lol

[random fossil]

I have kingsbane on ¿ But that's bound to mouse

[tired gull]

as long as servers come up

[fallow marsh]

I don’t know what I would do if they ever stopped making 18 button mice hearing all these key button mappings 😢

[novel star]

ye

dunno what u mean tomorrow

eu i guess

[spice spire]

I actually have pretty short fingers but they’re wide

[spice spire]

Eu is tomorrow

[random fossil]

If you want me to be yeah

[novel star]

yeh

[random fossil]

👀

[tired gull]

[spice spire]

Hey king

[grim jay]

I use 2 buttons on my mouse and I still have 4 comfortable keybinds open with everything included

[small jacinth]

EU

[novel star]

eu suffering as always

[random fossil]

` is stealth anyone else

[small jacinth]

[novel star]

ignore that it’s actually an advantage

[worn badger]

this thing was the greatest game pad ever made . you can move any of those keys anywhere in the pad to make it custom to your hand, press one button to record a macro to any key and press again to end macro.

[somber nimbus]

trolling

[worn badger]

sadly win 10 broke the drivers =/

[tired gull]

why are the numbers from r->l

[novel star]

fire

[worn badger]

thats not mine, someone elses screenshoot

mines in the box of old junk =/

[tired gull]

dude it even has pistol and rifle, perfect for outlaw

[lethal lintel]

Yey no extension sheeesh

[worn badger]

yeah it had all kinds of icons

[grim jay]

to shoot yourself?

oh

you mean keys

[tired gull]

🙂

[grim jay]

unlucky I guess

[spice spire]

First arsenic now this

[grim jay]

wouldnt use anything that looks like it is for outlaw

[spice spire]

You guys changed

[novel star]

where outlaw rifle button

is between the eyes a rifle

[wanton spear]

z

[spice spire]

The blunderbussy

[north frost]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds

[grim jay]

whispyr advised people to jump down a building inbetween, you missed it

[novel star]

that’s what i thought but

[worn badger]

im usually a loving helpfull rogue, but i really do hate outlaw

[novel star]

yeah outlaws just aren’t normal

[spice spire]

Damn he even bro’d my callback last night

[novel star]

i mean i’m okay with it but they should keep it in the privacy of their own homes

[spice spire]

Dog ain’t no way

[tired gull]

outlaws suffering from carpal tunnel 25 years earlier than average

[spice spire]

About to call in chief outlaw

[novel star]

LMFAO

[spice spire]

If you fellas don’t shape up

[cerulean walrus]

Ramlu?

[spice spire]

No Zac

[glass osprey]

Are stat prio for assass Master \ crit or Crit \ mastery?

[worn badger]

all rogues suffer from carpal these days, #bring back vanilla rotation

[novel star]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[spice spire]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[spice spire]

Fuck

[grim jay]

its funny how they can still make everyone believe that their apm is insane

[novel star]

beat u to it loser

[spice spire]

About to beat it to u pal

[cerulean walrus]

Dude with the Yameii pfp faster than quake

[spice spire]

Get woke

[cerulean walrus]

Quake washed up

[spice spire]

Weeb

[novel star]

[tired gull]

weebs OUT

[cobalt sphinx]

that game pad is messier than the toes in the baked beans

[spice spire]

[cerulean walrus]

Shit

[spice spire]

we don’t talk about that

[cerulean walrus]

I can’t recover

[spice spire]

Gonna erase that from memory

[novel star]

yameii hard

[worn badger]

oh yeah other goated thing about that ergodex was that you could swap the plastic tray the keys stick too, have one for each game or class , whatever you wanted

[cerulean walrus]

Actually it’s fine I don’t play sub rogue

Can’t be a weeb

[ionic trench]

Hi, I'm sorry if this has been talked about, but I don't see this in the current known bugs list, when playing deathstalker, and I have a darkest night buff, and my target has 1 stack of deathstalker's mark, and I use a 7 combo point envenom, both buffs get consumed at the same time, and I don't get neither a new mark nor a new darkest night, all the buffs will be gone
Is this a bug or am I missing something?

[spice spire]

Bug

[tired gull]

bug

[spice spire]

But known bug

[tired gull]

DAMN YOU

[spice spire]

Guess I came in

[grim jay]

bug btw

[spice spire]

Clutch

[novel star]

yeah deathstalker sucks

[grim jay]

not sure if anyone said it already

[worn badger]

everyone has bugs on the mind

[spice spire]

[novel star]

it’s just a mess

[cerulean walrus]

Quakes on high alert now

[tired gull]

[spice spire]

I’m actually typing with one hand

[ionic trench]

thanks 🙂

[cerulean walrus]

Yo he’s jorkin it

[grim jay]

[spice spire]

Because I’m working too lmfao

[tired gull]

working it

[cerulean walrus]

And by working…. Ahah

Let’s just say

[worn badger]

Any one here actually do raid testing in beta ? How bad is the execute mechanic on Princess fight

[cerulean walrus]

Workin my peanits

[spice spire]

I’m typing with the other hand too! Just not on discord!

[grim jay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1146207476983812117/1282395141608308826/Screenshot_20240908_103929_Spotify.jpg?ex=66dfdbcb&is=66de8a4b&hm=77ef94e41dfbefdd5ec532992522bc1adfacee22130084d35809fbf0657fd38d&

working

[tired gull]

quake what's your heart's bpm rn

[cerulean walrus]

True

[spice spire]

Really hate that

Uh

[tired gull]

elevated heart rate, typing w 1 hand..... "working"

[spice spire]

65?

[tired gull]

damn mine's 68

[nova aspen]

makeitquake gripping rn

[grim jay]

mine's 58

[cerulean walrus]

FUCJ

I HEHAIXO

[grim jay]

if I get more chill I might die

[spice spire]

Buddy I’m about to be gripping u if u sass me again

[cerulean walrus]

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