assassination

[royal lantern]

cus WHAT THE FUCK ARE you doing blizz?????

[waxen oyster]

did you see Legion Launch

[runic hinge]

Consume DN

[royal lantern]

1null stone for a single whetstone?????

[waxen oyster]

flask prices in EN

Legion was hella expensive until

potion of prolonged power

[rich python]

@balmy condor as someone who still plays 20 year old maplestory ur assassination video is the best guide i've ever seen and thank you what a blessing

[round nexus]

@balmy condor I'm also getting a big Caustic Spatter on 5 target dummies

[spring aurora]

gear from M0 wont need weathered tho, will it?

[waxen oyster]

Im spending sometime during reset

as prices likely will drop

[balmy condor]

have to do dailies in a bit

[waxen oyster]

[robust axle]

Nope

[novel star]

how long is the pull

[balmy condor]

mm I'm looking through it

[spring aurora]

Therefore, just spend them freely

[waxen oyster]

will the 590 crafted gear we make now actually go higher

[rich python]

👑 u dropped this

[waxen oyster]

btw

or only if you add a spark

[spring aurora]

Kek Maplestory, was giga good back in 2008

[grim jay]

You cant add spark iirc

[round nexus]

Was just 1 min

[grim jay]

Different items

[balmy condor]

even better now

game is sick

[waxen oyster]

yeah i was wondering what ilvl this stuff caps out at

[spring aurora]

I cant play after BB

[waxen oyster]

for max craft

[novel star]

spatter is gonna do hella burst cause ur mashing hella envenoms and kb and everything

[balmy condor]

oh you're one of those

[spring aurora]

Yeah..

Grew up with it

[balmy condor]

so did I

[grim jay]

Probably just what it is rn, dont think its meant to go higher

[balmy condor]

remember doing kerning pq after I got home from school

[spring aurora]

I just dont like how fast ppl lvl now and the lvl caps

YES

[narrow basalt]

so what hero talent are yall preferring rn? For me deathstalker bugs out too much 😎 and coin go pling

[spring aurora]

Ludi PQ was cool aswell when it game out

[balmy condor]

to be fair, 276 to 277 is taking me legit 3 weeks

[waxen oyster]

It's blue gear so I would imagine

[grim jay]

You suddenly sound old

[amber blaze]

Quick question : If I take the « without » road, how many garrote will I put out if I don’t change target while applying all of these ?

[waxen oyster]

as the real enchanted crests in df were spark gear only

[balmy condor]

it's still slow as shit, it's just only slow after 260 now

[novel star]

9

[spring aurora]

Yeah but back in the day, seeing a lvl 80 was rare af

[balmy condor]

they drop you into the current expansion

[waxen oyster]

so technically using shit mats wouldnt matter since you cant recrat higher

[amber blaze]

Ok now I’m never changing target to min max. 9 is more than enough

[novel star]

3, 5, 7, 9 since one is being spent on refreshes every time

the issue is youre spending a gcd for literally nothing

[balmy condor]

who do we appreciate

[grim jay]

It technically doesnt matter either way

[novel star]

you can get 9 garrotes out in 3 gcds

[waxen oyster]

I think weathered crests rn are effectively last season's wyrm crests

[novel star]

wwha

[waxen oyster]

ermm

[balmy condor]

sorry the joke was funny in my head

[waxen oyster]

whelpling

[balmy condor]

2, 4, 6, 8

[novel star]

OH

[amber blaze]

Y and then I’m having trouble finding my original target with the mark on 😫

[novel star]

yeah i get it

[balmy condor]

yeah it sounded good and then I typed it

[novel star]

whispyr's plater profile has some really nice name colour stuff

[balmy condor]

and then it was dumb

[spring aurora]

Get a plater profile

[balmy condor]

classic blunder

[novel star]

you can either use that or steal the scripts and put on another profile (i did this)

[waxen oyster]

Put your mark on the big guy

visually

[novel star]

makes hp bars green/purple for caustic/deathstalker

[waxen oyster]

easy to see

[novel star]

alternatively use a mouseover macro

and you dont actually have to change target ever

[spring aurora]

I use the Plater profile linked in !wa that makes caustic splatter target green name plate, easy to see

[novel star]

just ambush prio guy and mouseover your bleeds

[waxen oyster]

nah mouseover has risk of bricking

and hitting wrong target

[grim jay]

Automarker would like a word with you

[amber blaze]

Also y might be going to this

[waxen oyster]

especially with things that close

[novel star]

all options have their ups n downs

[balmy condor]

I thought I found a bug, but turns out deathmark duplicating rupture still triggers an instant tick of corrupt the blood what a janky ass fucking hero talent tree

I hate deathstalker

[novel star]

ds is a huge mess

like just a disaster

lmfao

[grim jay]

No, you like it and it feels amazing if they fix ER

[waxen oyster]

ngl

[grim jay]

Thats your line

[novel star]

sucks cause i like the theme of it so much more than fb

[grim jay]

Not hating it

[novel star]

but its just shit

to play

[amber blaze]

What’s the talent making my full combo rupture giving me back all my combo points ?

Hero talent ?

[waxen oyster]

playing my warrior alt and seeing them have a better hero tree

that is entirely passive

[novel star]

it's serrated bone spike @amber blaze

its a passive now that applies on rupture

[amber blaze]

? I don’t play it

Ohhhh

Okey

[novel star]

when you have carnage, youre applying 3 ruptures therefore 3 sbs in one gcd

and gaining 6 cps

[fallow sonnet]

wait are we not supposed to alternate garrote and rupture on as many targets as possible with indiscriminate carnage on opener and instead just spam garrote or am i understanding this converstaion wrong

[waxen oyster]

almost every build has bonespike

[balmy condor]

this is one fucking gcd

send help

[fallow sonnet]

i thought u wanted ruptures for the %agi stack from that other talent as well

[balmy condor]

that happened within 3 thousandth of a second

[amber blaze]

You go ambush garrote rupture garrote garrote rupture If I’m correct

[grim jay]

4 rupture 2 garrote casts, or 3 garrote with ambush on first pull

[novel star]

the question was about whether you switch targets to do it or not

[robust axle]

Wait are that the Darkmoon trinkets? Didnt know they would be that strong

[balmy condor]

no, the embellishment

[novel star]

but yeah you do 2 garrote into 2 rup

[waxen oyster]

They're mid

[novel star]

then repeat as needed

[waxen oyster]

mostly for ilvl on shit alts

[balmy condor]

the darkmoon trinkets suck lowkey

[fallow sonnet]

why do we prio garrote over rupture if rupture gives agi?

cause combo points?

[balmy condor]

cause improved garrote

exists

[novel star]

combo points and a lot of damage?

[fallow sonnet]

oh ok

[novel star]

youre applying a 50% buffed garrote to 3 targets in one input

and gaining 3 cp for it

thats a lot of fucking damage

and energy income

[fallow sonnet]

3? i thought it was 2

[novel star]

it is 3

[fallow sonnet]

is rupture 3?

or just 2

[novel star]

yes

they are all 3

[fallow sonnet]

oh

[novel star]

its 2 EXTRA targets

[fallow sonnet]

ohhh ok

[novel star]

and the one you are currently targeting

[fallow sonnet]

sorry im very new to assass

subtlety player

[novel star]

its okay youre just learning to play a real class

youll get there

[fallow sonnet]

😂

[waxen oyster]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=221263/nerubian-venom-tipped-dart

I got this 577 off a rare.

Except I dont have a hunter alt

so kind of useless

[balmy condor]

@dawn heath everything looks fine, just deathstalker omega cranking caustic I guess

you crit a clear the witnesses for 162k

which then spattered 73k to the other 4

and the fok itself also crit 3 times

[waxen oyster]

Now imagine if

it worked with ER properly

[robust axle]

I see. So just wait with Embellishment crafts until HC week to see if tuning happens I guess

[waxen oyster]

I really like how warriors have a hero talent that is 2nd/3rd on their damage potentially on aoe.

That is just a random proc on their filler.

[grim jay]

After hc week even tbf, would wait for mythic week

[waxen oyster]

Kind of cooked im seeing people with embellished weapons already

[tall nimbus]

I have a hunter MM it is top damage but full passive in AoE maybe it’s just heroic dungeons too

[royal lantern]

use bladestorm->reap the storm is #1 dmg done for no reason

[grim jay]

Im seeing people with 606 items without embellishment

[waxen oyster]

unhinged triggered a bloodthirst

which procced reap

[novel star]

i public order crafted an embellished dagger with spark for no reason cause im fucking goated (really dumb and now i have to lose money recrafting)

[waxen oyster]

is my guess

public ordering an embellish

[novel star]

im the goat.

[hasty crypt]

@balmy condor "- Ascension on dagger + Patch is technically bis right now but it's way stronger than legit anything else and bis for basically every spec in the game so nerfs are kinda expected, do with that what you'd like". What patch are you referring?

[novel star]

u dont operate on my level

[grim jay]

Dagger is probably fine either way ig

[waxen oyster]

my guild enchanters get pressed

[novel star]

im not even using it LMFAO

[waxen oyster]

if we dont guild ordered enchanted crests

[spring aurora]

yeah gl finding 2 daggers first M+ week

[grim jay]

Alright thats based.

[novel star]

i crafted a 590 like a normal person cause i wanted to also have a crafted belt and i put an embellishment on that forgetting theres a cap of 2

[waxen oyster]

you onlu need one

[royal lantern]

why would you want 2

[novel star]

so i had to take off the big low rank grief dagger

[grim jay]

They have lower ilvl aswell
And you only need 1

[royal lantern]

offhand is the lowest priority slot in the game

[spring aurora]

no i mean, its fine crafting a dagger, still need to find 2

[waxen oyster]

is offhand actually worse than bracers

curious

[royal lantern]

no you dont need 2

[normal mist]

Craft a 590

[novel star]

why are daggers not treated like a 2h item

i really dont understand

[tall nimbus]

Un-embllished bracers here we go!!!

[novel star]

they functionally are already with how shit offhand is

[waxen oyster]

they dont have the technology-oh wait

[novel star]

I thought sub and sin did for legion?

i guess thats the oh wait

[waxen oyster]

thats the joke

[novel star]

yeah..

[waxen oyster]

whispyr has an entire rant video

on this

[novel star]

rly?

i only saw the rotation guide ones LMFAO

[balmy condor]

this one fok gcd with clear the witnesses then did 93k+93k+93k+37k+37k base, then clear the witnesses did 81k+162k+162k+162k+162k, then the foks came back in on singular focus for about 5.3k x4, then the caustic spatters from the clear the witnesses went out for 73k x4, then those caustic spatters came back in for another 4k x4

this one fok managed to do 1.2mil damage, but it needed to hit 5+5+4+4+4 times

[waxen oyster]

sub to the whispyr OF

[balmy condor]

what the hell

is this game

[novel star]

Would

[novel star]

game blows

[balmy condor]

I'm not seeing anything insanely out of the ordinary though

just a giant data slog

[hasty crypt]

@balmy condor thx

[balmy condor]

like this singular focus

looks really big

but that matches this clear the witnesses

when I scroll WAYYYYYYYYYYYY the fuck back up

[waxen oyster]

singular focus is like

really cracked tbh

[waxen oyster]

once we get to content you can utilize it

[balmy condor]

lovely log reading content

[waxen oyster]

Imagine being the guild officer

trying to read dps events

[balmy condor]

OH BOY I FOUND AN AUTO ATTACK

lets check hunt them down

this blows

yeh that works too

one auto attack

4x caustic

4x singular back in

jesus christ

my worst nightmare has come to pass

this entire page of combat events only fits 1.35 seconds

kill me

the same page for a warrior log I looked at earlier fit 22 seconds for reference

and it was fury so it was like half filled with each individual rampage hit

[terse orchid]

Ngl, Legion was goated for that reason alone already

[novel star]

i didnt play legion but didnt that xpac just not have weapon gearing at all

[terse orchid]

Exactly

[novel star]

i dont really think i would enjoy that

[waxen oyster]

you had relics

[novel star]

i still like getting weapon upgrades

i just want the slot to show 2 daggers lol

[waxen oyster]

which were basically weapons

[viscid kelp]

Hello, can anyone help me with bis professions? Couldn’t find anything in the pins related to them

[novel star]

ah ok ok

yeah i knew there was like artifact upgrading and whatever

from just looking at the old menus

[waxen oyster]

if you ignore the time we ditched ilvl and put in

[novel star]

but i didnt know specifics

[waxen oyster]

3 vendetta cdr relics

[viscid kelp]

Classic andy here trying out retail

[waxen oyster]

even if they were heroic dungeon ilvl

in s1

[novel star]

no profession in the game gives damage anymore

professions and regular gameplay are completely disconnected

you do professions for gold and fun

[waxen oyster]

Glorious times of 45s cd vendetta

[viscid kelp]

What about items, don’t we use anything from leatherworking or engineering?

[novel star]

you do and you could do all the gathering and crafting yourself with alts

[waxen oyster]

you can craft 590s if you have extra gold

[novel star]

but it would be a pain in the ass

[waxen oyster]

its slightly cheaper on weathered crests

[novel star]

as profession leveling has more depth than it used to

[viscid kelp]

Ok so nothing is mandatory anymore

[cinder bone]

this opened my mind and sent me to mars

[novel star]

no

[waxen oyster]

my lazy ass training alchemy to 15 in phials

to have double phial duration

[viscid kelp]

Cool cheers guys I’ll get something like alchemy and enchanting then for gold

[novel star]

you can easily find crafters to do the gear for you and either just do gathering profs or buy on ah

yeah

[waxen oyster]

engineering is probably the most qol profession

[novel star]

moneymakers are the best unless ur an insane person

[cinder bone]

are you guys using spark for mh?

[waxen oyster]

since you can wormhole to any zone in the expansion every 30mins

[novel star]

engi lets you repair items when you dont have acceess to mounts i think

that to

[novel star]

not yet because tuning is still happening

so bis embellishment might be dogshit next week we dont know

[cinder bone]

okay cool, saving mine as well

[waxen oyster]

who needs to craft an mh

just loot one week 1

[novel star]

XD

[cinder bone]

i've ran darkflame 20 times and no daggers

[subtle tundra]

thats my plan

[cinder bone]

got sac and priory trinket at least

[waxen oyster]

I dont even know whats in there

[balmy condor]

run something else for a dagger I guess

[vale lantern]

Im a big alch belivering the in QoL 100% increased flask and phial durations

[balmy condor]

that dungeon doesn't seem to be working for you

[fallow sonnet]

so say in a large pack like 10-15 mobs size, i should be spreading garrote and rupture for the entire duration of indiscriminate carnage before casting one crimson tempest correct?

or am i wrong about that

[waxen oyster]

I got an adventurer track dagger from the special assignment in ringing depths in EA

skil issue tbh

1 hr into 80

[waxen oyster]

real

[subtle tundra]

oh you mean this week

[cinder bone]

I'm herb/mine now and respeccing alch/eng in a month when prices come down

[subtle tundra]

its actually better to craft cause its less crests

used

[waxen oyster]

yeah during EA

[subtle tundra]

lol

[balmy condor]

yes

[subtle tundra]

i also dropped a dagger but still gonna craft

[vale lantern]

Saved me so much money last xpac thats for sure

[waxen oyster]

I've made like 1mil gold this expansion so far selling random shit I looted while gearing

[vale lantern]

Iv spent way to much money leveling other professions 😦

[waxen oyster]

yeah i still sent one on mh since 593

[waxen oyster]

its why ill never drop alch

[cinder bone]

i know people have complained about the release schedule but its been fun having heroics matter for a couple weeks

[waxen oyster]

Especially with how phials are only 30mins?

Instead of 1h

[vale lantern]

True but atleast combat flask are back to being 1 hour

[balmy condor]

my neighbors must be depressed as shit bro they've played zombie by the cranberries like 15 times in a row now

[novel star]

sick song tbf

[balmy condor]

yeah but not that sick

[winged widget]

phials should last 100% longer with both the knowledge nodes, but somehow my phials are lasting 1:30 hours each. No idea why the nodes are giving 30 mins instead of 50% of 30min each.

[waxen oyster]

are flasks and phials different

[vale lantern]

Yes they are separate now

Flask are combat phials are professions

[waxen oyster]

I was about to say, shouldnt two 50% nodes be 100%

which should be double duration

[vale lantern]

My neighbors are so quiet sometimes I wish they would make noise so I’d have a reason to interact 😂

[runic hinge]

I’ve probably listened to linger 60 times in the month of August

[balmy condor]

oh I've never met my neighbors

they're super antisocial

but they do weird shit

[winged widget]

yeah. not sure if the nodes are simply giving the same duration for both phials and flasks because the person who coded it forgot they had different durations, idk

[rotund jungle]

now i want to listen to it too xD

[normal mist]

They also play wow?

[balmy condor]

how would I know

[normal mist]

You said they did weird shit

[vale lantern]

Ah see I’m disabled veteran who lives alone and doesn’t work so my get weekly human interaction is just mtg every Wednesday at my house

[normal mist]

[balmy condor]

yeah but I've also never talked to them

[normal mist]

For how long have you been living there?

[balmy condor]

how old am I

25 years I guess

[normal mist]

Oh boy

To be fair I also don't know pretty much anyone from my apartment building besides the people on the same floor as me

[waxen oyster]

Weren't the df ones also 50 and 50

yet made phials last 1.5 hrs

[novel star]

thats fair

[thin imp]

!whispyr

[novel star]

chorus pops into my head once in a while but i cant remember a single thing from the rest of it or what the instrumental sounds like

midge i fear

[waxen oyster]

wait engy has a wipe recovery tool

[balmy condor]

hi

[thin imp]

sup! how are you?

[balmy condor]

tired

bowled like shit today

[novel star]

!seli

[thin imp]

go rest man

[balmy condor]

no rest when work needs to be done

[waxen oyster]

i think they got rid of the free heal though

from consuming a pot

[robust river]

As someone with less time, I've enjoyed having the time to actually get M0 ready. I might actually get into a group having the extra week to get my iLvl up a little 😄

[waxen oyster]

pugging week 1 is psychotic

[robust river]

True, I'll try and run with friends/guild but sometimes it just doesn't line up 😄

[novel star]

if only i had friends who wanted to play or a guild

🙃

should just start applying to shit i guess

[winged widget]

nope. they were "30 minutes longer" each, instead of 50% extra duration. xD

[waxen oyster]

Oh right, I just kind of accepted 1.5 hr flasks as the norm

back then

[novel star]

is raider.io recruitment actually like used by anyone or a waste of energy

my ass aint whispering ppl ingame to find a guild

[balmy condor]

most recruit through wcl

[novel star]

kk

[waxen oyster]

wowprogress

[prime cairn]

is there a more heal focused sustain for open world type or do i just need better gear? i'm 563 and it feels like i still can't fight big boy elites

i just wait for someone else to hop along

[balmy condor]

yeh maybe in 2009

[royal lantern]

but why wowprogress/wowlogs, it doesnt show my r.io???

[waxen oyster]

I think wowprogress has been relevant

until df tbh

[royal lantern]

tbh, every guild i know does wowprogress

[cinder bone]

lets goooooooo

[waxen oyster]

I haven't been on the market for awhile so unsure

[royal lantern]

i never heared about recruitment trought wowlogs really

[waxen oyster]

its a ring not sure whats special

[balmy condor]

the strat is generally to just burst the shit out of it, healing ain't really our thing

[royal lantern]

maybe a NA / EU thing? idk

[robust axle]

30 Valorstones Pog

[balmy condor]

it's 85-year tenure

that ring

ain't going anywhere

[waxen oyster]

oh TRUE

[balmy condor]

he'll be wearing it in 41.1.5

[waxen oyster]

until m0 ring

[balmy condor]

but yeh

probably just replace with crafted next week honestly

[cinder bone]

let me enjoy my prebis for the next week

[novel star]

but its crit mastery guys

that ring is sick and fire and sick

and dope

and 580 and dope

erm

[waxen oyster]

does it have a hole

[royal lantern]

how much CP has rogue at this point?

[waxen oyster]

its not even bis

[balmy condor]

mad

[waxen oyster]

bis is just have a balance of stats

so any ring with a hole=good

[brisk plank]

Yo, what are you all crafting next week?

[balmy condor]

transmog

[royal lantern]

no, just building up for that 27CP envenom

[cinder bone]

nothing til after heroic tuning

[brisk plank]

Saving sparks is way to go then?

[robust river]

Mythic utility for Assassination. Am I missing anything from this list for us?
Iron Wire - AoE silence from stealth
Sap - Incapacitate
Kidney Shot - Stun
Cheap shot - Stun (Assume not really viable an Deathstalker? Fatebound only?)
AOE Shroud
AoE Blind - AoE Stun
Kick - Interrupt
Cloak - Potential cheese a mechanic
Poisons - General debuffs
Shiv - Soothe (AoE shiv on raging weeks?)

Want to make sure I'm using what I can , where I can but not used to Rogue in M+ 😄

[vale lantern]

Save spark now profit later when stuff gets buffed/nerfed

[balmy condor]

you can take cheap shot off your bars in pve, vanish/shadowmeld can cheese mechanics, evasion can immune boss charges and stuff sometimes

[robust river]

Cheap shot not even viable in M+? Too big of a DPS loss?

[normal mist]

Yes

[robust axle]

Yes

[robust river]

Ah fair enough, thanks!

[normal mist]

Fuck cheap shot

[robust river]

🤣

[normal mist]

AoE blind and call it a Day

[cinder bone]

damn i miss cheap shotting mobs in m+ in legion

[robust river]

Does anyone usually do a sheet for rogues showing what works/doesn't work in dungeons? i.e. cloak works vs this boss ability etc.?

I recall having one when playing monk

[vale lantern]

I usually just press cloak and pray it works

[waxen oyster]

Real

cloak is a dps button

to stand in shit more

[normal mist]

Yes

[vale lantern]

If it doesn’t work then clearly it was a healer mechanic

[normal mist]

Same as cheat death

You gotta proc it

[balmy condor]

we used to but no one wanted to contribute to it so it ended up being 3 people spending months painstakingly logging every mechanic

so we stopped doing it

[waxen oyster]

my favorite start of season

limit testing

[balmy condor]

you just kinda learn by doing

[robust river]

Fair enough, will try test and see how I get on then 😄

[balmy condor]

most stuff is pretty intuitive

big fuck off purple shadow slam?

probably magic

probably cloak

[normal mist]

Ability named "cleave"? Probably physical DMG, just get out of the way

[waxen oyster]

no whispyr i meant

how much can i take raw

no feint or cloak

[normal mist]

No lube

[balmy condor]

probably 6 inches

[normal mist]

LOL

[vale lantern]

Maybe 7 if you take a deep breathe

[spring aurora]

and cough

[balmy condor]

coughing is mythic only mechanic

[runic hinge]

There was one of those brown circles and I tried to stay in it with evasion but it was magic damage

[vale lantern]

Ground degen prob magic but honestly try feinting it first

[runic hinge]

There’s a joke to be made there but I’m not clever enough

[balmy condor]

you're always evading me when I'm trying to stand in your brown circle

what's up with that tony

[runic hinge]

Was with guild doing heroics I just stand in shit to keep the healer awake

[runic hinge]

There it is

[vale lantern]

Trust it’s a healer mechanic

[runic hinge]

Also I’m the one sending the “ur cute” drunk dms. Not you!

[vale lantern]

How else are healers suppose to parse if we don’t stand in stuff

[balmy condor]

one day drunkspyr will find you

[waxen oyster]

warrior spear is also brown

[balmy condor]

damn

[waxen oyster]

if they dont get the cosmetic to return it to kyrian spear

[balmy condor]

need him

[iron carbon]

Morning guys

[vale lantern]

Go back to bed

[iron carbon]

I wish

But got to work

To pay my subscription

[vale lantern]

Oof I’m about to go to bed here soon

[iron carbon]

US ?

[drifting light]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[vale lantern]

Yeah east coast

[runic hinge]

Anything exciting happen on reset tomorrow

[iron carbon]

What time is it? 2 am?

[normal mist]

Not really

[vale lantern]

4 am

[runic hinge]

4:16

[robust river]

9:15am here... at work 😄

[iron carbon]

2 am is on the west coast** so 😛

10:17 by my side

[vale lantern]

4 am is the east coast

[iron carbon]

I mean west

[normal mist]

Same

Where you from?

[robust river]

UK Royal? 👀

[vale lantern]

Ohh yeah

[normal mist]

Portugal

Same shit

[robust river]

Ah ok haa

Yeah England here

[vale lantern]

Wait it should be 1 am west coast

[hot fulcrum]

11 am Ukraine at work 😦

[balmy condor]

1am on the west coast

[vale lantern]

2 am mountain

[normal mist]

We're pretty much brothers ever since the old days

[balmy condor]

can confirm

1am

[royal lantern]

wtf time travel

[balmy condor]

yes I'm from the past

[robust river]

Running it back for the Reconquista.

[balmy condor]

can you tell me what happens today

[haughty flicker]

nothing good, go to sleep

[normal mist]

We're tea buddies

[vale lantern]

True I can’t believe Europe didn’t tell us about 9/11

[hot fulcrum]

I'm from future. ER with DM not yet fixed

[robust river]

Wait. Why did I think you were German? o_O

[royal lantern]

its way to hot

[balmy condor]

shit

[balmy condor]

cause I am

[robust river]

Ah ok

[balmy condor]

true

[iron carbon]

Thought Portugal was on Paris time zone

[balmy condor]

dying soon

pray for me

[royal lantern]

german parents, lives in america west coast

[normal mist]

Nah you guys a lil bit to much to the right

[balmy condor]

schnauze vulpera

[vale lantern]

What does this translate too farenhight for us dumb Americans

[royal lantern]

klappe Jannik

[haughty flicker]

hot

it translates to hot

[balmy condor]

almost 100

[balmy condor]

mit ck bitte

[iron carbon]

So you got an hour difference with Spain? Funny

[vale lantern]

Off I’m not even getting 100 in florida

[normal mist]

Yeah!

[whole sand]

we get a vault today right?

[balmy condor]

shouldn't

[royal lantern]

no

[balmy condor]

season hasn't started

[whole sand]

dunno where i read that then

[balmy condor]

vault happens on season start

[balmy condor]

so should be mythic week

cause this reset today is nothing

then the week after is heroic raid and opening of vault

[robust river]

A youtube I watched said we got one from heroics but I wasn't expecting one

[balmy condor]

and then you get to open your first vault on mythic week

[flat sentinel]

was petco probly he said there would be confirmed lol but his info always wrong

[balmy condor]

petco is the store

petko is the misinfo

[haughty flicker]

i wouldnt take wow advice from a pet shop

[balmy condor]

[whole sand]

nah i just found it, it was a quazii video but i misunderstood it

its for next week#

[iron carbon]

°F, this aberation

[robust river]

The video that I saw for it was Quazii

[balmy condor]

bros fancy with it

got the lil circle n shit

[royal lantern]

whisp, whats your predicition for how the raid will be tuned

[robust river]

He does say do 8 heroics a week for it right?

[royal lantern]

shitshow or allright

[balmy condor]

I hate that this pops up even when I'm capped

I get excited for a second

[vale lantern]

Idk how to even change it on the weather app

[runic hinge]

I love when it rains on the weekends

And only the weekends

[robust axle]

How do I see which three delves are bountiful for the day

[vale lantern]

That looks like some good weather!

[balmy condor]

there are 3 pulls

this guy is 5 pulls

[vale lantern]

It rains everyday at 3 pm here

[balmy condor]

this is 20 pulls

this is 25 pulls

[royal lantern]

mythic?

[balmy condor]

this is 80 pulls

[whole sand]

normal

[balmy condor]

and these two are gonna be 300+

[balmy condor]

yes ofc

[shadow patio]

You think it’s best to go into heroic or normal for the first week?

[vale lantern]

I bet my guild takes three times as many pulls for those

[royal lantern]

thought "what, 25pull heroic boss?" for a sec there

[royal lantern]

for tierset/trinkets, yes

[iron carbon]

Depends the tuning I guess

[balmy condor]

probably the same on heroic but divided by 6-7

[shadow patio]

Yes normal or heroic

[balmy condor]

and then last boss is probably unkillable or insane

[royal lantern]

both?

[shadow patio]

Oh

[iron carbon]

Hope HC will be more challenging than recent ones

[royal lantern]

remember azshara

heroic

[shadow patio]

Well that doesn’t really answer the question lol.

[balmy condor]

if it's like amirdrassil everything is like 5-15 pulls

[whole sand]

your question is a bit silly

you can do both

[iron carbon]

Just do both kekw

[royal lantern]

do normal to get the hang of the raw fights and then go heroic

[iron carbon]

2 times more chance to get ur 4p

[atomic creek]

The tier set is weak as fuck, it's actually sad

[shadow patio]

Idk how it’s silly but alright

[whole sand]

okay why wouldn't you do both

[shadow patio]

Time?

[atomic creek]

A whopping 1,5% DPS increase for having the tier set instead of just stats on your gear

[whole sand]

are you in a guild?

[balmy condor]

for some reason aberrus was really hard on heroic too

we got world 10th heroic

[shadow patio]

Yes

[balmy condor]

was quite strange

[whole sand]

then if you don't have time you just do what your guild does

[kindred elm]

hey guys is there a reason that amp poison should be being tracked on plater?

[balmy condor]

cause you don't do anything with it

[shadow patio]

Well we’re trying to decide thought I’d come here for some suggestions

[balmy condor]

oh

should be tracked

no

[whole sand]

i dunno if the assassination channel in the rogue discord is the place to be asking what your guild is capable of doing week 1

[kindred elm]

oh i got the one on disc and just saw that it was and just thought id ask

[whole sand]

because that's what actually matters, what you can clear

[shadow patio]

Lmao dog you’re not even talking about the spec

So high and mighty for no reason

[keen spruce]

Hi assas, yall lookin cute this evening

[balmy condor]

mine bugged out for some reason but I'm fixing it rn actuallly

[keen spruce]

especially @balmy condor

[waxen oyster]

week 1 splits

jk do not do this

[grim jay]

Id say entirely depends on your guild. We will go heroic as far as we can reasonably manage without much wiping and clear normal afterwards

[balmy condor]

how plane mr shmeper

[kindred elm]

ok ty for the answer and also ty so much for your vids too man

[balmy condor]

np

[keen spruce]

plane gud not flying much this month cuz i'll be out of town a lot

[royal lantern]

sark was a bit meh for mythic in the opinion of some people, but on heroic early on he was quiet tricky

[keen spruce]

finally gonna fly with a passenger next week tho

[shadow patio]

Thank you appreciate the answer

[royal lantern]

yoooooo, the flying duck is here

[balmy condor]

and its not me

toxic

[royal lantern]

hi shmeeps 👋

[keen spruce]

hi cranky fox

[vale lantern]

Ngl I played all last xpac with a plater profile only to realize 3 days ago I never actually loaded it when my friend was like “ holy crap you have a lot of debuffs do you really need all those”

[keen spruce]

u so far away

[royal lantern]

relatable

[keen spruce]

I'm takin my best friend's little sister to the coast cuz his wife won't let him fly with me

[balmy condor]

You literally have a plane?????

Just fly over here

Tf

[keen spruce]

rent plane

if I had enough money to buy a plane i'd just buy a house

[haughty flicker]

just live in the plane?

[grim jay]

Just have a house that can fly?

[balmy condor]

How about you buy dn

[royal lantern]

taylor swift moment

[balmy condor]

Isn’t that just a private jet

[grim jay]

Nah, private jet too small

Gotta have a whole cargo plane

[keen spruce]

private jet is just a jet that you own privately

u can have a 747 as a private jet

[balmy condor]

Maybe yours is, you fucking loser

[vale lantern]

This was normal for me 😂

[balmy condor]

Brother

Clean up your frames

[grim jay]

Man its not my fault I cant afford a bigger one. I pay half my money in taxes

[crisp pine]

The fuck

[vale lantern]

Nah it’s fixed it

[grim jay]

[shadow patio]

That’s hideaous

[keen spruce]

https://www.c-130hercules.net/index.php?/forums/topic/13059-operational-c-130-for-sale/

[vale lantern]

I never loaded the profile

[keen spruce]

just buy c130

private plane

[nova kelp]

100% you should have kept it like that and streamed for people

[vale lantern]

I fixed it now trust

[vale lantern]

That’s how I realized I had a problem 😂

[nova kelp]

I would absolutely just keep that as a profile

and turn it on only when I'm streaming

just to give people aneurysms

[vale lantern]

You know maybe I should make that a point reward

[royal lantern]

then push m+ 19hours a day until you have big score, and people ask for the profile and how its giga important and you need it that way

[vale lantern]

“Turn off plater profile”

[nova kelp]

the real tech

[robust river]

My UI is a mess 🤣 I use default UI with shit all over it

It's like a 90s website

[vale lantern]

Every single rebuff needs to be tracked at all time to play assassin

[balmy condor]

I’m trusting you

[balmy condor]

Hey same except I clean it up so it doesn’t do that

[whole sand]

i hope you just made the icons bigger

[vale lantern]

It is it is I took. The plater profile posted in here the other day and actually enabled it

[robust river]

Haha, if you're at your PC send a pic. Let me see how the pros do their UI

[balmy condor]

I’m in bed but uhhhh idk

[keen spruce]

[robust river]

Nah don't get out of bed for this

Wait I can check your youtube right

I watched your vid the other day so I should remember it 😅

[balmy condor]

Yeah

Or wago

Should have screenshots

[robust river]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[hexed frost]

What's a good spec/class to level up as an alt? I'm 583 on assa now and want to spend my epic edition level boost on something

[vale lantern]

Another assassin rogue

[hexed frost]

I'm thinking feral but idk if it's good or not

[hexed frost]

I have an outlaw and sub rogue already

[normal mist]

They seem cool

[royal lantern]

idk, leveled up a warrior and arms is fun for me

scalecommander devestation is cool, if you are from NA it even gives you freedom vibes by carpet bombing enemys

[vale lantern]

Seems like they are the wrong spec 😮

[robust river]

Druid are flexible at least. Tank, Heal, Caster, Melee etc.

[hexed frost]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-verne-over-the-hedge-turtle-disbelief-gif-24744867

if you're from NA

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/freedoms-internally-freedom-freedoms-eagle-america-gif-23711012

[grim jay]

All while telling them your fucked up Illuminati tech build is better, despite everyone else saying something different

@royal lantern

Thats the streamer move

[hexed frost]

Ngl I'm tempted to try out a horde assa rogue 🤣

[normal mist]

Do it

[vale lantern]

Make it a vulpara

[royal lantern]

but ye, scalecommander is awesome

Dracthyrs doing a flyby and dropping fireballs on enemys is 10/10

[hexed frost]

Would be fun if we had actual children as enemy faction, idk if goblins count

[royal lantern]

vulpera has some of the better rogue animations tbh

[robust river]

Could use it on Gnomes I guess.

[haughty flicker]

i go out of my way to camp any gnome i see in warmode

[robust river]

https://tenor.com/view/howdareyou-offended-rude-offensive-appalled-gif-26011926

Gnome gang rise up

[royal lantern]

yeha about that

[hexed frost]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-really-wtf-wtf-is-going-on-norm-the-gnome-gif-14063950

[kindred elm]

does mech gnome count?

[hexed frost]

They have already rise my lord

[robust river]

I don't play them personally, but I'll accept them as brethren. Does transmog work on them yet? 😄

I recall them just having legs and stuff sticking out of most pieces

[haughty flicker]

they are still daiper babies

[kindred elm]

i never tmog so couldnt tell you

[robust river]

Even regular gear used to look terrible on them

[obsidian harbor]

For Whispyr's 11.0, anyone know how I can show the WA only in combat?

[devout mist]

i got a gnome and a panda

[kindred elm]

my guy is like an ant im that zoomed out

[jaunty nest]

what talent do u guys carry around for world quest

[royal lantern]

open the wa->load->load only in combat, its the very first mark

[jaunty nest]

im legit jsut dying and cant kill more than 2 thing

[devout mist]

if u do the elites in hallowfall yea

everything else its fine

[hexed frost]

How's arms warrior doing?

[royal lantern]

idk, i like arms

[devout mist]

idk numbers but feels rly good

i quite enjoy it

infinite rage

u spin in ST now

[royal lantern]

overpower->overpower->cleave and HP bars evaporate

[robust river]

Is there anyway to move where the chat boxes pop up in wow btw? I don't recall seeing it in the edit menu and it goes directly over WA.

[royal lantern]

and slayer bladestorm is just a delete button rn

[hexed frost]

All warriors running ass clap I see,

I mean thunder clap

[royal lantern]

its a basic ability for prot, always used in aoe for arms, and fury is using it in 1 hero tree

so yeha

[hexed frost]

Hmmm

Or I can make a horde assa

Troll and orc look interesting

[royal lantern]

tbh, thats kinda cringe

rage is just always at 100%

makes the Ressource feel pointless

[devout mist]

im playing war for the funsiez

[royal lantern]

like, you literally cant spend rage fast enough then you fill up

[devout mist]

ill let the mains complain about that

[iron carbon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[novel star]

rage has been fake for a while no?

[narrow basalt]

It has. It’s just insane now.

There is almost no skill ceiling on warr now (except prot ig, I dont play tank).

[obsidian harbor]

Uhmm previously, with afenar WA, I had (out of combat) the icon of energy, evenctually proc of garrote and stealth icon. So, I think isn't "only in combat" the view I'm research

[narrow basalt]

I am warr noob. Havent played fury since shadowlands, and I still delete everything 😭 Not even fun when there really is nothing to learn.

[sour kernel]

How many times u guys garrote/rupture in an opener in a pack of let say 6 or 10+ mobs?

[narrow basalt]

6 mobs I garrote 2 times. Then rupture, rupture again with the combo points you get from sbs.

[hot fulcrum]

As I know goal is to have 5-6 ruptures and 5-6 garrots up

so at least 2 spreads of each (if IC is up)

[iron carbon]

I'm lazy to mouseover mob so I just spam on my main target so :
3 mobs - once
4-5 - Two
6+ - Three

[sour kernel]

In a very big pack, do I just garrote/rupture of main target?

[sour kernel]

Yeah like this

[narrow basalt]

Preferrably not, but you can.

[hot fulcrum]

2 spreads in big pack in 1 target will grant 5 targets affected

[iron carbon]

I told, I'm lazy to do it in HC

[sour kernel]

Okay perfect

[iron carbon]

Cuz pack never stop moving

So you try to apply but you can't cuz mobs are away or behind you

[narrow basalt]

Just garrote, tab to mob without garrote up and garrote again. No prob 😎

[iron carbon]

Pref losing 1 application than losing a gcd

[sour kernel]

Played enhance so tab targeting is no issue

[narrow basalt]

Nice. It isn’t that much of a hassle. You can just garrote main target, idk how much damage loss that really is.

But I prefer to spread it as much as possible, so tab it is.

[hot fulcrum]

garrot is mainly about damage + energy generation. But rupture is also about agi buff depending on targets affected

[strange python]

I just tab around a couple times, then return to main target for caustic

[narrow basalt]

This is the way.

[strange python]

No need to make it difficult

Depends how quickly you want to get into your CD's though

[robust river]

Personally I tab or click a new mob, and cast. I don't worry about whether it has it, I just increase my chances of them not having it.

I don't think it' sworth tabbing through 3-4 targets trying to get the one without garrote/rupture in busy situations.

In perfect play your would/should though.

[narrow basalt]

Tbf I dont think a couple tab clicks would delay the cds too much, bc you still have to click garrote and rupture just as much.

[sour kernel]

Tbh, the clicking should happen during gcd, so u should not lose 1 gcd

[iron carbon]

I just mouseover when pack isn't running a marathon

[robust river]

I never liked mouse overs, that's a personal thing though 😄

I assume there's no way to do a /target macro related to not having a debuff?

[narrow basalt]

Mouseover is diabolical 💀

[hot fulcrum]

Same. Sometimes I can lose my coursor XD

[iron carbon]

https://wago.io/ZbjlsgMkp/53

[sour kernel]

Cursortrail is also a good add-on, lots of customization

[hot fulcrum]

had this one. Then came to WA for that 🙂

simple WA that is adding circle around when in combat

[normal mist]

90% of the time I don't know where my mouse is

[novel star]

it’s pretty common i think

[grim jay]

Not as common as one might think outside of the pvp scene

[novel star]

ic

[grim jay]

Id say most people use target macros

For kick and cc

And never mouse over any dmg skills

[novel star]

i’ve always been a nameplate clicker so mouseover is literally the same thing without 2 wasted m1 inputs

but yeah

i guess it’s a lil weird

if ur used to using exclusively tab

[hot fulcrum]

I wish I'll be good player with macros to autofocus specific mobs and kick on focus target. But I;m not good player

[heavy coral]

is this a freezing cold take or a boiling hot take. thistle tea bad ?

[grim jay]

You could potentially target the wrong mob I guess, if you use the same macro as in "mouseover, if not then target"

If you dont know where your mouse is

But that aside its probably pretty good

But also niche

As you dont really gain mich by doing it below 10 targets

[shy marten]

hey guys so uh, this is definitely not it for tracking the debuffs on my target, which ones do i actually need to see?

garrote
rupture
CT
caustic
is there anything else?

[grim jay]

I only have garrote rupture ct kb caustic deathstalkers mark and DM

[hot fulcrum]

you can try Whispers plater. There is already everything that is needed for tracking + colors

[grim jay]

Shiv is potentially good aswell, depending on how much you use the plate vs WAs

[shy marten]

yeah but the thing is i already have the plater displaying setting to what im used to so i just only want to change the whitelist debuffs

[grim jay]

Whispyr has only garrote rupture DM ct and Mark iirc

[shy marten]

what's the point of kb and mark

[hot fulcrum]

kb target is your main target. as well as mark target

[grim jay]

Mark is important because you dont play the hero tree if you dont find your target again

Kb is just bcs its easier for me to track in m+

[normal mist]

Well you can... If u fuck up

[grim jay]

If I just look at the nameplate

[normal mist]

You can crimson tempest 3 times and it will consume the marks I believe

[shy marten]

im thinking i will just focus target the one i put my mark on

[normal mist]

Even if you're not targeting your marked guy, but I can't confirm 100%

[grim jay]

Yeah you can

You can also play pretty bad

And it doesnt matter where your mark is anyways

[normal mist]

Yeah, no one CTS 3x

[shy marten]

i have been yesterday

[normal mist]

Oof

[shy marten]

today i forgot to even press it

[normal mist]

Have you learned your lesson?

[royal lantern]

just CT

[shy marten]

well i was losing to my dh friend so...

[grim jay]

I'll hit you

[shy marten]

i think so?

[normal mist]

That doesn't mean much

[shy marten]

how do i find the debuff ID of a debuff, i saw whispyr do it on the guide

when he hovered the debuff it had a spell id

[grim jay]

Elvui has a feature like that

[normal lotus]

Plater also has that feature I think

[shy marten]

do you know where ;-;

[normal lotus]

what is it you are looking for?

[shy marten]

im trying to blacklist stuff on plater

[normal lotus]

you can do by name

[balmy condor]

Idtip

Addon

[shy marten]

i can't do bone spike

oh i see

[normal lotus]

i will be downloading this immediately

[shy marten]

aha thanks

[bitter badger]

Hi Whispyr, I've been using your edited afenar's weakaura, but I also wanted to add trickster talents stuff into it, do you have any guides for it?

[balmy condor]

I’m adding trickster stuff tomorrow

[midnight atlas]

you can go by name but some of the spells are split into multiple effects each with their own id. so get id tip or if you got elvui its something by default

[balmy condor]

But you can add stuff if you’d like mostly just copy stuff change ids

[rugged oyster]

is it woth crafting something with spark right now?

[bitter badger]

Ah thank you very much, I did try to copy stuff and change ids, but it doesn't seem to work for me. I figured it wouldn't be as easy as copy and change things up.

[full flicker]

Where does one find this WA?

[bitter badger]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[midnight atlas]

has afenar retired?

[balmy condor]

Ye

I gotta keep it going I guess

[full flicker]

We call it Whispenar then

[midnight atlas]

i made my own in prepatch but i reinstalled the game without uploading it to wago, so i got to make it again

wasnt finished anyway

[balmy condor]

I also fixed some outlaw stuff on it but I got no clue what sub/outlaw want

So had to get some help for that

[digital kettle]

Broskis, I could need some clarification regarding fatebound aoe rotation when u enter a pack. Guides often say garrote, garrote, rupture, rupture.. Is there anything wrong with garrote into rupture, tab to next target and do again garrote into rupture? Or do you skip the tab and just garrote, rupture the same target as it will spread to 5 mobs automatically?

[midnight atlas]

sub wants cooldowns that line better and outlaw wants acro back

[royal lantern]

can probs ask fuu and, god forgive me, zac

[balmy condor]

Well that would be 3cp ruptures which sucks real bad

[balmy condor]

Oh thanks

[royal lantern]

[balmy condor]

Already got the help

[digital kettle]

True! How would a perfect aoe opener look like then?

[balmy condor]

Gar gar rup rup

Like the guide says

[digital kettle]

But u switch targets in between, right?

[balmy condor]

You can if you’re sweaty I guess

Doesn’t matter until you’re in huge aoe

[digital kettle]

🙏🏽 Merci

[rotund oak]

ne rien

[bitter badger]

where do you got the cp for the 2nd rupture?

[balmy condor]

Bone spike

[bitter badger]

ohh right I forgot it's automatic now

[raven saffron]

Is it still a single deathstalker's mark per rogue per target at the moment?

[balmy condor]

Huh

Why wouldn’t it be

[rotund oak]

[raven saffron]

As in.. only one applies

If one already exists the other rogue's never applies

[balmy condor]

Idk

[rotund oak]

wasnt that a beta bug

[balmy condor]

They fixed it in beta and then rumors of it breaking on live

[raven saffron]

Pretty sure its a current one

[balmy condor]

But I haven’t seen it

[raven saffron]

Casualaddict was dealing with it yesterday on stream i think

[balmy condor]

Cool ig

Beta bugs returning

[rotund oak]

huh

more reasons to play fatebound ig

[balmy condor]

Honestly just play fatebound for the burst and call it a day

[hexed frost]

Sounds like something a murloc would say

[balmy condor]

True

[raven saffron]

For current content? Sure raids? Ill play another class unless im the only rogue

[normal mist]

Damn

Hating rogue brothers

[rotund oak]

i dont wanna say waht im thinking

[balmy condor]

It’s funny how people can’t stand fatebound

[novel star]

Based

[balmy condor]

And then like 5 min later someone else will show up

[novel star]

deathstalker cringe

[balmy condor]

And they’ll be like man I can’t stand deathstalker

[hexed frost]

Last time I said something corny I got a 12 hr ban here

[rotund oak]

[normal mist]

Lucky

[rotund oak]

welcome aboard fam

[novel star]

how do u even get timed out in this server

[royal lantern]

I can't stand

(im tired and wanna sleep)

[novel star]

shit seems lax asf

[balmy condor]

We are insanely lax

(Reddit says we’re nazis)

[raven saffron]

I just want consistency

[hexed frost]

https://tenor.com/view/sausage-hungry-yummy-corn-dog-huge-gif-17562963

[novel star]

i mean u were talkin about syrup footjobs like 2 days ago

[rotund oak]

personally i dont mind deathstalker,i actually like it more but having to deal with bugs is frustrating,ild rather play fatebound and be fine

[normal mist]

True

[rotund oak]

[novel star]

and i think i said something about playing panda cus theyre sexy

[balmy condor]

And the day before that, and the day before that, and…

[novel star]

if that isnt over the line then idk

[hexed frost]

Excuse me what footjobs?

[novel star]

syrup

[royal lantern]

@gusty mirage beeing the biggest offender, insulting people left and right

[novel star]

like maple syrup like

breakfast

[hexed frost]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-verne-over-the-hedge-turtle-disbelief-gif-24744867

[balmy condor]

I mean no one cares if shits chill

[novel star]

matter of fact it happened twice

[balmy condor]

As long as vibe is conserved no issues imo

[normal mist]

As long as questions are getting answered with facts

And help is provided

[hexed frost]

If reddit says we are nazi then we are actually full blown free market capitalists. Always the opposite

[normal mist]

We good to go

[novel star]