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#assassination
strong wing
distant helm
24 does give a hc crest
royal lantern
you mean the thing you can get in ~1 week anyway....?
distant helm
and you have 2 sparks?
distant plinth
you mean the thing you can get in ~1 week anyway....?
Crafting x2 619 and spend crest on myth track items instead?
pulsar apex
is it safe/smart to upgrade trinkets? (i have only upgraded MH weapon and spent crests on 2x embelish)
onyx mesa
I saved every rep thing until DMF just for them to disable the Rep hidden treasure things
fml
onyx mesa
is it safe/smart to upgrade trinkets? (i have only upgraded MH weapon and spent ...
Guess it depends, whats your odds on getting a m0 BiS trinket? I would say pretty high if its the egg sack thingy, it has a 30% drop rate and I believe drops all specs, with m0 on daily lockout, shouldn't be hard
pulsar apex
hmm i have the heroic sacblood
onyx mesa
use up all your weathered crests, m0 and 8 delves make them useless anyways
only thing you are wasting really is gold (crafting 590) + valorstones (or whatever they are called now on upgrades)
royal lantern
and you have 2 sparks?
no
but m+ will literally give the same ilvl lol
and at the same week we get m+ we also get the 2nd Spark
so people could make 2 max lvl crafted items there
i mean sure, if people wanna do some kinda pointless rep grinds for ilvl number going up temporaly, do it, not my choice
but the "gain" is literally not existing
onyx mesa
The gain of telling my guildies "Oh you don't have max rep, you even play the game?" is worth it though
distant helm
but the "gain" is literally not existing
well you gonna spend aspect crests to craft your items while you could get two free hc crafts
royal lantern
The gain of telling my guildies "Oh you don't have max rep, you even play the ga...
nah, you mount up on one of the grind mounts and act as if it was worth it
(it kinda was)
onyx mesa
nah, you mount up on one of the grind mounts and act as if it was worth it
(it ...
Faaaaaaiiiirrrrrr
vivid crown
honey buzzer can crit. it's growing on me.
royal lantern
well you gonna spend aspect crests to craft your items while you could get two f...
and you would make those crafts max lvl anyway
soooo.....?
distant helm
i mean thats such a dumb arguement, you would make anything max item lvl anyways at some point so why do anything
it is effiecient to craft x2 hc for free
sure long term you would have to recraft
royal lantern
but we literally get the endless HC gear source in 1 week anyway 
runic hinge
Why do anything ever
narrow marsh
What do we think about earthen? A good race for sin?
distant helm
but we literally get the endless HC gear source in 1 week anyway <:dracthyr_cry:...
?
and?
you will still be limited upgrading to pieces by crests
which you will use for your craft while others craft for free
limber lion
What do we think about earthen? A good race for sin?
As good as everything else
Nothing special
royal lantern
what is rc
balmy condor
is rc still bugged with dsm?
Unless there’s a pin saying that it’s fixed, yes
limber lion
what is rc
Resounding Clarity
pulsar apex
merci
limber lion
Because we play Lethality instead of RC but still play ER
runic hinge
Deserved tbh
limber lion
You asked
royal lantern
cant sleep aswell
we should both probably put the phone away
balmy condor
I have a terrible heartburn and can't sleep
what about 3 white monsters
you will not regret chugging 3 white monsters
waxen oyster
There’s better energy drinks.
earnest remnant
whispyr about to smite you
balmy condor
There’s better energy drinks.
wrong
balmy condor
based
earnest remnant
specifically cause of that comment right there yes
im gonna be nerfing assa by 20%
no problem
vivid crown
pls sir 😢
tawny junco
At the moment is it better to run the bleed talent build or the hybrid one in hc dungeons?
vivid crown
they're both fine
pulsar elk
I know we were on the topic earlier, was there a decision if it was worth tab targeting/mouseover the IC garrot at 6+ targets?
coral sierra
Peach and white monster best energy drinks
placid adder
lol icy-veins
novel star
I know we were on the topic earlier, was there a decision if it was worth tab ta...
yes
coral sierra
Also 5 hour energy shots
balmy condor
im gonna be nerfing assa by 20%
how about you nerf assa by 4% so that all the fotm chasers leave out of fear and we can have some peace and quiet
novel star
at 5 targets it doesnt matter, 6 you mouseover, 7 basically doesnt matter and 8+ always mouseover i think?
or just 6+ if you wanna be normal
pulsar elk
Okay, 6 plus i just garrot main target then second garrot another target?
earnest remnant
how about you nerf assa by 4% so that all the fotm chasers leave out of fear and...
fair
novel star
time to jerk off for a week
novel star
yeah
they work the same way
if you dont change target you only get 2 extra ruptures and your target is just refreshed to max duration
balmy condor
whatever gets the clowns out
pulsar elk
they work the same way
well fuck ive been doing that wrong, thank you
novel star
its not a terribly big deal
as long as you have a long rupture on 5 targets for scent of blood and energy income you'll be fine
but yeah its better to get free damage than not get it
pulsar elk
as long as you have a long rupture on 5 targets for scent of blood and energy in...
I for sure get that part right
normal mist
Deathstalker's marks
you need to ambush from stealth to activate it
its your Hero tree Base starting point
hollow blade
okay gotcha ty
covert jewel
time to jerk off for a week
thats like 6-7 ilvl lower than normal
not raid, avg ilvl i mean
normal mist
580+ is more than enough to start m0 and normal raid
tough gorge
If 580 is trolling heroic dungeons, m0 isnt much of a challenge
covert jewel
yea, but why would u not craft few 590s up to 585 or higher, crests are there anyway
normal mist
M0 should be a bump in difficulty
normal mist
yea, but why would u not craft few 590s up to 585 or higher, crests are there an...
Probably gold
pulsar elk
MB for all the questions. So in AOE its garrot, garrot, rup, rup, CT, Slice and dice, then spat?
normal mist
MB for all the questions. So in AOE its garrot, garrot, rup, rup, CT, Slice and ...
That should do it yes, the important part is spreading the garrotes and ruptures and then CT
After that pick a loser and blow him up
covert jewel
feel free to read your prev message
novel star
feel free to read your prev message
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
balmy condor
581? That's barely good enough for probably some content idk
vapid terrace
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waxen oyster
@normal mist 800k for jc recipe off theater event
One that I did on an alt in like 2minutes because i caught the tail end.
novel star
ive never been so fucking owned i was tabbed out and this guy just rolled up to me on a bigger bee
im quitting dude
covert jewel
hes just 582
novel star
AAAAAAAAAA
covert jewel
AAAAAAAAAAA
waxen oyster
what recipe tho? what item?
binding of binding
high phoenix
did they fix the echoing reprimand bug?
waxen oyster
the weird ring craft that gives someone else stats
novel star
did they fix the echoing reprimand bug?
no
waxen oyster
when it procs
sour kernel
balmy condor
what would that do
covert jewel
change a color maybe
spare nimbus
If Im in an AOE pack, and I deathstalker marks a target and it dies while still 2 stacks left, does it transfer to my new target, or is it gone for good until next stealth?
balmy condor
you get the capstone
spare nimbus
capstone?
covert jewel
btw is capstone dissapearing completely if that 7cp envenom did fatal dmg to a mob a bug?
spare nimbus
ohh, so no matter how many stacks, when target dies i get darkest night thats very nice
very nice indeed
balmy condor
btw is capstone dissapearing completely if that 7cp envenom did fatal dmg to a m...
that's how the game works
covert jewel
very "cool"
vagrant pawn
fatebound is super fun... feels a tiny bit like outlaw w/ seeing the coins get thrown around lol
covert jewel
hope that barely happens in m+
balmy condor
okay and
waxen oyster
unless wowhead tooltip is wrong its only like 40 secondaries
balmy condor
it's wrong
dw
ascension on wowhead is like 12,000 stat
blizzard fucking item level scaling on all of the embellishments
pulsar elk
Whats the best way to approach 12+ pack?
waxen oyster
Depends on the pack
balmy condor
spread a bunch of bleeds during carnage, apply CT, pick a target and caustic spatter away
onyx mesa
Whats the best way to approach 12+ pack?
Get in a higher level key lol
novel star
yea the opener is pretty much always the same like conceptually
you just stop bleeds earlier if the pack isnt big enough
i think the images on wowhead go over dis
earnest remnant
Whispyr how many coffer keys is it we are meant to have this week
from quest
s
6?
flat sentinel
I got 6 and 75 so one more wq and got 7 + what we get on reset
robust slate
you can only get loot from 4 bountiful delves a day right ?
flat sentinel
Oh really that’s not to bad anyways gota do 12 for the week at 8 plus the 5 to get to t8
vivid crown
this is probably a dumb question... in raidbots, when you do a sim, if you mouseover some of the buffs in uptime, it shows the tooltip for a lower ilvl version. is that a display bug? or is raidbots not actually simming with the correct ilvl buff?
shy marten
Does garrote and rupture cleaving smart target? Or do I have to run around the pack to find mobs without bleed and stand in particular spots?
silver turret
Yo guys. is pooling the same on long fights as it was in dragonflight?
balmy condor
gameplay is generally the same but you don't want to pool all the way back up to 80%
typically staying under 50%
balmy condor
Does garrote and rupture cleaving smart target? Or do I have to run around the p...
yes, carnage smart targets
silver turret
why is that. what changed?
balmy condor
why is that. what changed?
an expansion worth of changes came out
shy marten
So I can just pick 1 target and spam my garrotes off it?
balmy condor
you'd still lose the garrote you're casting on the target but otherwise yes
silver turret
there was a kind of "pooling helper" weakaura. is it worth using for learning?
balmy condor
no and I've deleted it
shy marten
Because sometimes I lose my marked target in a pack but maybe I’ll focus it
dark token
Whispyr how many coffer keys is it we are meant to have this week
I have 8
Rnged 2 keys from wq fragments
But 6 base
robust slate
Whispyr how many coffer keys is it we are meant to have this week
you can also get keys from renown if u degen hard enough
earnest remnant
reason why i specified from quests xD
open canyon
Yo whispyr what did you do to your plater I can’t barely see the other mobs that isn’t my target 😦
balmy condor
I added priority mob scaling
shy marten
Ok hold up, if there’s 4 garrotes in the stealthed opener, then cleaving off 1 target I can do
12/11/10 targets 4 garrotes
9/8/7 targets 3 garrotes
6/5/4 targets 2 garrotes
Or without changing main target
9/8 4 garrotes
7/6 3 garrotes
5/4 2 garrotes
So for 6 targets or 8+ I want to swap targets
Otherwise I’m still pressing the same number of globals to apply my bleeds
balmy condor
lots of math for a lot of doesn't matter
spare nimbus
If there's 10 mobs in a pull, and everything is dead down to 3, no stealth, no vanish, no bleeds up but they'll be dead in let's say 10-15 seconds, do I bother rupturing them or just spam envenom?
balmy condor
is saturn in retrograde
shy marten
So swap targets if I want, if not just cleave off main target?
And it doesn’t really matter either way?
balmy condor
but like idk rupture them for energy I guess
balmy condor
So swap targets if I want, if not just cleave off main target?
yeh pretty much
grim zodiac
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fleet whale
Is there any visual indicator/spell effect for when the coin hits tails? Other than the coin flipping spell effect?
balmy condor
no
silver turret
whispyr is your plater set up for pvp too?
flat kindle
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hearty coral
whats the last map for campaign?
balmy condor
whispyr is your plater set up for pvp too?
no, I haven't pvp'd since wod, dead gamemode
cyan summit
How much ilvl u need for m0?
silver turret
dead game. pvp is ok
i dont think there is a requirement for M0 beacuse you dont use the dungen browser
earnest remnant
How much ilvl u need for m0?
it doesent have an item level requirement
vagrant pawn
is heroic going to become M0 like it was at the end of dragonflight?
hearty coral
whats a good dps on a boss? single target? 1m?
onyx mesa
How much ilvl u need for m0?
probs 580+ to be honest
cyan summit
probs 580+ to be honest
Thanks !
How can you compare your dps ? I’m curious if I’m doing good or not in dungeons
cyan summit
Yea
junior olive
damn thank god i chose assas rogue as my alt...feels sooo good
did it always feel this goodto play? or did they make some good changes this Xpack?
vagrant pawn
rogue does feel pretty dam fun tho
just hopiing teh dev's don't decide to swing the nerfbat to hard in our direction once they get around to it... lol
shy crow
assassination rogue
runic hinge
did it always feel this goodto play? or did they make some good changes this Xpa...
10.2 kinda molded it into what it is now
trail mica
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novel star
df tempest rework and spatter did a lot to make the spec way more satisfying
i’d still say sin has always been the most fun melee but there’s bias considering ur in the sin channel ofc
silent drift
either im playing assasination wrong, or most classes feel like they just beat me in ST :/
median igloo
@balmy condor Curious what you meant by patch in the pin regarding embellishments? I couldn't find any info other than ascencion on dagger
balmy condor
im not sure what you mean
median igloo
Ascension on dagger + Patch is technically bis right now but it's way stronger than legit anything else and bis for basically every spec in the game so nerfs are kinda expected, do with that what you'd like
balmy condor
yes
median igloo
ahh gotcha, ty
slim pebble
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balmy condor
I should probably start making
actual statements though
I can't keep waiting for blizzard
to figure out what they want their fucking game to be
silk bane
to figure out what they want their fucking game to be
u still have like 2 weeks left tbh
no need to rush
remote trellis
hey whispyr what part under plater changes the color of the bars for deathstalker mark im trying to add it to a profile and cant figure it out
balmy condor
remote trellis
wow i feel stupid thank you so much!
balmy condor
np
novel star
either im playing assasination wrong, or most classes feel like they just beat m...
sin st isnt great right now but you might also be playing it wrong, no way to know
watch the whispyr raid guide 🫡
i think m+ guide goes over st too but
silent drift
Im doing 40k/50k less than what im simming
just sim seems kinda low compared to most classes in ST
novel star
low turret
make sure your sim consumables and raid buffs match your actual consumables, default includes flask/weapon stones/etc
lean shale
Hey all am I crazy or is the deathstalker capstone still buggy? max point envenoms dont do anything and I just cry as I see the buff tick off 😦 It seems to work once or twice, then nothing for the next 10 minutes.
novel star
it is quite buggy but it shouldnt be that consistent
if you use envenoms on mobs right before they die you wont refresh mark but thats unfixable
cause of how the games ticks work or some shit
lean shale
Thanks, Ill keep an eye out on that.
void garden
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worthy moon
So is Assassination looking like the strongest spec?
balmy condor
for m+ ye
tidal laurel
may i ask what would be the option for raid? i just got back to rogues, trying to see what to pick for specs lol
silk bane
wait like 2 weeks see what liquid/echo run. or play the one you like
tidal laurel
okays
terse mesa
hey whispyr what part under plater changes the color of the bars for deathstalke...
There is a WA you can just import and it will change health bar of target to show which target has deathstalker mark on them
cobalt bison
Does some1 have a tracker for the amount of ruptures that r up currently ? I have big trouble in big aoe pulls tracking ruptures
novel star
Does some1 have a tracker for the amount of ruptures that r up currently ? I hav...
whispyrs wa does it
cobalt bison
whispyrs wa does it
ty will get it from there
runic hinge
youre too slow old man
it's on my phone, i didnt feel like looking
silk bane
nice try buddy
naive valve
what's the thing that keeps making my combo points fill after i cast rupture
twin plume
bone spike
untold karma
SBS
cobalt bison
Its not recommended keeping thistle tea up in kingsbane window for mastery but instead only use it if starving energy?
runic hinge
nice try buddy
runic hinge
same
silk bane
blizz locking down on dev communication made us not lose a dev
buta homie
and a friend
and a meme lord
F in the chat
runic hinge
i blame outlaw
slate crown
silk bane
i blame zac
runic hinge
silk bane
cobalt bison
I can not find a word about FoK in ST in the guide though in quick sims the robot is using it regulary, why's that
silk bane
im #1 zac hater
balmy condor
I can not find a word about FoK in ST in the guide though in quick sims the robo...
clear the witnesses
silk bane
I can not find a word about FoK in ST in the guide though in quick sims the robo...
youre consuming Clear the Witness.
silk bane
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drifting cloud
shadows bullying poor cfs again
silk bane
dude anyone else has died to the mining stones that throw bombs around?
I have died 4 times this expac so far, 4 times to this fucker
drifting cloud
I dont believe you have 0 deaths to fall dmg
slate crown
(I need to get better too)
silk bane
I dont believe you have 0 deaths to fall dmg
im shrimply too good
silk bane
(I need to get better too)
but im not good enough to not die to this fucking rock
balmy condor
no
cobalt bison
does this reset if we refresh rupture withing pandemic window or will it stay on 10 stacks
arctic socket
alright what build be the highest simming
balmy condor
vicious
arctic socket
say less
im holding around 550k on 5mins+ dummy "shrug" idk if that horrible or good lmao but thats what im at
balmy condor
what do you sim on a target dummy
balmy condor
well that would be where you'd find out if that's good or horrible
very cool and epic
arctic socket
onyx mesa
If sub is better for raid ST, I am going to cry, I was told to go sub for season 3... never forgetti
If asss is close enough, we golden
runic hinge
I dont believe you have 0 deaths to fall dmg
my first death this expack was to fall damage
the second was to the mining node
tawny pagoda
Can u share if possible any rogue sim spreadsheet?
placid egret
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cinder parrot
Does anyone know what I should do on raidbots to find out which gear piece I should upgrade optimally?
onyx mesa
Does anyone know what I should do on raidbots to find out which gear piece I sho...
for stuff you have now? not really, I would just try to get the best trinkets you can incase you get shit luck in m0 and don't get them there
cinder parrot
for stuff you have now? not really, I would just try to get the best trinkets yo...
I have the best trinkets
I have 45 crests, just not sure which gear slot I should max out
That's why I'm asking
onyx mesa
what crests?
cinder parrot
weathered
onyx mesa
Yea just use them, you can sim to find the best upgrade, nothing else to do till the 10th
cinder parrot
Yea just use them, you can sim to find the best upgrade, nothing else to do till...
Yeah that's what I'm asking
what do I have to do to sim them to find the best upgrade
onyx mesa
Ohhhh right sorry, raidbots and in the main gear section you can select how many valorstones + crests you have
cinder parrot
ok thanks!
lean shale
rule of thumb though is normally, weps, trinkets, shoulders/chest then other I think.
silk bane
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All Specs are good and have niches and strengths that they play to. All three specs are looking viable with Assassination/Subtlety being preferred in raids. Mythic+ meta has not solidified yet but Assassination looked promising during beta.
Be aware that Simulations are a tool to be used to compare things like talents/gear/rotations, they are not the definite answer to what is meta or not meta. While outlaw is ahead in sims right now, especially dungeonslice, you have to take a step back and realize these are synthetic/generic situations that we use as a baseline. Dungeonslice has always been a great showing for outlaw simply due to the fight style matching well with the spec. This is not unusual or unheard of.
You can view logs of the raid when it comes out Here, or view the mythic+ run leaderboard Here.
harsh yew
echoing reprimand sim lower than double vanish on m+ build for anyone else?
runic hinge
echoing reprimand sim lower than double vanish on m+ build for anyone else?
lemme see the sim
harsh yew
lemme see the sim
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xhrtWzZ1YQz4AvKhkAvLsn
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8Se5FM8JPsrXHN2XAiePAx
runic hinge
what kind of sim is 10 target dummy 1:30 lol
harsh yew
okay what sim do you recommend
runic hinge
dslice
spice spire
Yeah ofc getting 2 vanish in 90 is good
It’s the like
30 minutes following
That’s a laugher
balmy condor
a talent that gives 2-3 extra casts over 40 minutes
versus simming a giga aoe situation where you get 1 in 90 seconds
spice spire
lemme see the sim
Bro said
onyx mesa
hahahaha
harsh yew
why am i getting shit on, i just asked a question? im new and trying to learn
onyx mesa
Yea don't dumpster on Hisao damn
spice spire
Oh I was trying to clarify, that’s not to you specific
runic hinge
I wasn't trying to be mean
spice spire
why do you have this on quick paste from phone you a menace
I’m a bit diabolical rn (12 day wow streak)
runic hinge
is it cause bonespike is back
spice spire
Ye
runic hinge
I'm 576, get rekt nerd
spice spire
Nah sin feels good in dungeons and stuff
harsh yew
even dslice will overestimate double vanish
wym overestimate? can you explain the reason
spice spire
I'm 576, get rekt nerd
554 pants and 558 bracers
onyx mesa
why am i getting shit on, i just asked a question? im new and trying to learn
Yea so Dslice is the best do go with and even still it aint amazing to paint the entire picture of the dungeon, there is a heap of discussion around double vanish and how amazing it is, when infact if you look over an entire m+ dungeon you get 2 - 3 casts of it, making it really not worth the effort. Lord Whispyr did a video on it
balmy condor
wym overestimate? can you explain the reason
without a trace gives you +1 charge, so in dungeonslice, which is a 6 minute simulation, you're getting 1 extra use in 6 minutes. Based on logs you most of the time get 2 extra uses in 40 minutes
so dungeonslice will overestimate the impact of without a trace
pretty heavily
its the same reason why your sim was pointless in that regard
onyx mesa
Yea hence the 1:30 being a bit wild because it is such a small window, can blow all your load
balmy condor
90 seconds is just insanely unrealistic to what the talent is actually doing
harsh yew
i guess i should count the amount of times im using it. ive been saving 1 for deathmark and using the other mid aoe for garrote resets
frosty portal
we have sims to see how much dmg tier is giving us?
balmy condor
i guess i should count the amount of times im using it. ive been saving 1 for de...
it's gonna be like 2-3
balmy condor
we have sims to see how much dmg tier is giving us?
2%
frosty portal
im 23% crit 40% mast currently. Im having energy problems in ST. Any tips?
@balmy condor
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Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
harsh yew
it's gonna be like 2-3
unfortunate, subterfuge is so qol xd
runic hinge
in what way
spice spire
Just like me fr
harsh yew
for indiscriminate carnage, just easy to mass apply everything quickly
oh wait i cant read
so nvm
azure flare
cunning basin
remember when resounding clarity was a real talent? i member
weak kindle
Quick question, during CDs should we be spamming envenom? My hunch is yes but wanted to double check given the pooling that exists outside of CDs
Does envenom itself count towards KB too?
outer sundial
envenom does not count towards kb damage, but the buff is important, you should aim to mantain 100% uptime of envenom's buff during kb
woeful wigeon
Guys not really good with plater and weakaura. Is there a way i can bigger up that 1 icon of deadstalker we have to keep track up sometimes hard to see on what target it went with all the dots on big pulls
exotic parcel
lyric cave
!bis
prisma monolithBOT
BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.
Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS is especially not helpful, and we do not have any of them. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. The recommendation is simply to get all your heroic gear to 580 and then craft 590 slots (wrist/belt/rings are good)
errant mauve
Double garroting ST adds to max time still right and buffing it? I forget the term for it. Snapshotting maybe? I haven’t rogued since SL haven’t even played since SL
slate crown
Double garroting ST adds to max time still right and buffing it? I forget the te...
Double garroting in single target will extend garrote's duration because of pandemic, and it will remain buffed if you are doing it within the imp garrote window, yes.
That is how it mechanically works
It isn't worth doing it though
errant mauve
Really? What changed that
livid finch
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halcyon citrus
should I level up my off hand with crest?
livid finch
I kinda miss old Luxthos WA
slate crown
Really? What changed that
I mean a lot changes over the course of an expansion with reworks and talent trees 
Not like a specific mechanic changed that I know of, just how the APL shakes out
errant mauve
Yea that tracks
halcyon citrus
should I level up my off hand with crest?
Some1 please
fallen arch
Some1 please
No
errant mauve
No
fallen arch
Off hand is the worst investment of all slots
halcyon citrus
okay thanks. I thought the damage scales if leveled
halcyon citrus
So i have 3 renown items HEAD SHOULDER CHEST should I use crest on them?
fallen arch
U can
fallen arch
I didnt find any guide on what to use crest on as aassa
And why would you need a guide for that?
I’m confused
balmy condor
Double garroting ST adds to max time still right and buffing it? I forget the te...
This hasn’t been worth it since 8.3 for the record
halcyon citrus
And why would you need a guide for that?
To know whats worth it to use crests on
slate crown
I didnt find any guide on what to use crest on as aassa
With the way the crafting system works, ideally you'd use crests on pieces where you're less likely to see a better item drop. It can be very hard to determine what that will be, so that won't always answer your question, but remember that getting an item at a higher item level means that every other item for that specific slot (Chest, boots, etc) can be upgraded to match that higher item level free of charge. So if you use a crest on a pair of boots and raise it to, say, 580, then you get a pair of boots from a dungeon that are 583, those crests are effectively wasted because the boots you just got fully replace them, and you could have spent the crests on another slot instead
but as stated, you can't really predict what items you'll loot so
it can be hard to plan it out
At this time, with this level of crests, I wouldn't sweat the decision too much
Just pick items with higher item budgets and do those first
(Mainhand weapon, chest/helm/legs, trinkets if they're strong)
errant mauve
Where do I figure out what secondary stats start to cap out at and give back diminishing returns because of the soft/hard cap on them
runic hinge
Where do I figure out what secondary stats start to cap out at and give back dim...
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
errant mauve
Yea but at some point stats start to have a soft cap and don’t give full value of the stat anymore and it becomes more valuable to build another stat until all are at that threshold then bump up into soft cap right
runic hinge
and the robot will tell you to wear something else
mint urchin
It depends on the class, but generally you wont have that issue in the first tier of an xpac much
errant mauve
Don’t trust robots, I watched the terminator
balmy condor
Can basically ignore the soft caps entirely
They reduce the value for sure but in the situation where you have 1 really good stat, it’ll still be really good
dawn heath
are we ghonna play echoing reprimand with deathstalker even if they dont fix the bug?
balmy condor
And if you have all good stats like we do, they’re all hitting the cap at roughly the same time
balmy condor
are we ghonna play echoing reprimand with deathstalker even if they dont fix the...
Yes
dawn heath
dont know hwo to play around the mark
balmy condor
Wdym
You play as normal and when you get darkest night you cast a 7cp envenom
Rinse repeat
ancient niche
Most likely a dumb question, but with Deathstalker's mark, am I missing some we reapply this in raid fights, since we use vanish to reapply garrote
wooden flare
darkest night reapplies it
ancient niche
Okay I am dumb LOL
dawn heath
Rinse repeat
but if u use your blue combo points you dont work towards getting your mark back
no?
on a finisher
steel ridge
thats the supposed bug yes
dawn heath
surely thats bad
indigo mulch
It is what it is, i'm even wondering if it is a bug at this point since its not been fixed already. D:
dawn heath
are the sims accounting for this bug?
balmy condor
Yes
indigo mulch
Generally all "bugs" are in the sims for all the classes. I think atleast. Thats generally how they do it.
balmy condor
Yeh
dawn heath
idk i have a strong dislike for echoing reprimend because of this issue
balmy condor
Generally if theyre impactful they get added
dawn heath
i stopped playing it in duengons atleast
indigo mulch
Whispyr, do you know if blizzard actually acknowlaged that the ER is a bug or not? D:
dawn heath
I don't even envenom in Heroic unless it's a boss lol
huh
caustic spatter is always by far my highest overall
its not even close
balmy condor
Whispyr, do you know if blizzard actually acknowlaged that the ER is a bug or no...
They haven’t officially said something on forums, no
shell pawn
Bleed execute for me, only time I even get spatter damage is rock boss and boss with the minecarts
indigo mulch
They haven’t officially said something on forums, no
So it might just be a "feature" and we're just huffing paint.
dawn heath
Bleed execute for me, only time I even get spatter damage is rock boss and boss ...
u are probably slow then u need to be quick on getting the stuff rolling:p i generally have time to get 2-3 envenoms off in a pack
unless u have someone sending mega cds
like fury warrior
shell pawn
I just carrots rupture until carnage wears off then tempest and everything is about dead
Garrote*
indigo mulch
Depends on the group to be fair. In pugs you can get off some envenoms.
When i do it with a static i barly have time to put all the dots up
shell pawn
Maybe reprimand bug will be fixed by raid release 🤔
Will smooth out rotation bit especially if running the mutilate talent
balmy condor
So it might just be a "feature" and we're just huffing paint.
If you’re dooming I guess yeah
indigo mulch
shell pawn
Highly doubt it's a feature, would make 0 sense... but then again it is blizzard
dawn heath
I just carrots rupture until carnage wears off then tempest and everything is ab...
ye sometimes i even skip crimson tempest cause its better to rush caustic spatter
indigo mulch
I mean its been like 2 weeks since EA. It should have been fixed by this point, but maybe its just overly complicated to sort out. 😄
dawn heath
but u really need to be quick when doing heroic xd
indigo mulch
I don't think you ever want to skip CT in AoE. Even for caustic.
dawn heath
if its either getting one gcd of envenom caustic or one crimson tempest tick
i mean im talking if the mob is about to die in 2 seconds
shell pawn
You can 7 point tempest like 2 GCDs from opening with bones pike proc on big pack
balmy condor
ye sometimes i even skip crimson tempest cause its better to rush caustic spatte...
There’s no way that’s correct
bitter badger
anyone got weakauras for fatebound coins?
balmy condor
Crimson tempest is an insanely huge button that’s frankly real overtuned atm
indigo mulch
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shell pawn
Yea tempest is wild asf rn lol
eager vigil
!trinkets
dawn heath
i dont think u guys get the context of what i mean i'm talking
shell pawn
Like 2m dmg per target with 5 stacks of rupture and 5 mobs
dawn heath
sub 3 targets target is about to die in 2 globals
its better for me to caustic envenom over applying CT
shell pawn
Tempest wins everytime over getting a non KB caustic spatter imo
balmy condor
Oh 2 globals
eager vigil
What are the best trinkets if I cant get the egg?
dawn heath
thats the whole point of my argument
balmy condor
Yeah sure, dot not doing anything in 2 seconds makes sense
dawn heath
if u dont have time to get the damage off
balmy condor
But applying caustic over ct ain’t the move
If you’re applying caustic it’s alive long enough
shell pawn
Then the CT damage just goes straight to execute If they are low
runic hinge
ineffiecient tho
shell pawn
Caustic does almost nothing until we get to 7+ keys
balmy condor
Yeah you don’t want to do that
dawn heath
Caustic does almost nothing until we get to 7+ keys
this just feels cooked though?
my caustic is topping my damage in every key in heroiuc duengons
shell pawn
Well I won't say nothing. But just can't go full caustic build until higher keys really
I do hate playing CT fr thi
balmy condor
If CT is tuned the way it is right now you will never ever go a full caustic build
shell pawn
Extra button to press 😂
Yea but now thay I think about it since all passives in deathstalker tree cleave with caustic KB is not as bad if you fk up the splash on lower hp target
balmy condor
CT is even stronger for deathstalker though
shell pawn
For fatal intent?
whole sand
is that the cleave build?
balmy condor
shy heron
6 people on that?
balmy condor
That breakdown looks
indigo mulch
broken
balmy condor
Very wrong
shy heron
Kinda sus
shell pawn
You aren't running sudden demise
dawn heath
i am
whole sand
you're not
dawn heath
?
balmy condor
I mean fuck all the sudden demise, that caustic is 2x what it should be even in a reasonable key
dawn heath
yes?
dawn heath
no
shell pawn
In priory too?
runic hinge
How is your caustic that high and your kb isn’t even on the meter
dawn heath
b ruh its a duengon
whole sand
you can't be running SD and its doing les than 6% of your damage, unless you're literally not bleeding at all
dawn heath
kingsbane?
shell pawn
Do you know about indiscriminate carnage big dawg? That damage break down is littery impossible if you are garrote and rupture out of stealth
spiral gale
post a ss of your build
runic hinge
Yeah. Kb is like where most of your caustic comes from
shy heron
There are six people on that damage meter
dawn heath
ye the rogue left after the first pull
spiral gale
There are six people on that damage meter
one prolly left and got replaced
dawn heath
the other rogue
shy heron
Aha
shell pawn
I litterly can't think of a single pull in that dungeon in Heroic to get that much spatter damage unless your entire group is afk
dawn heath
i mean
the duengon after
i was playing with a fury warrior
my dmg breakdown was alot different
shell pawn
Bout to get on my rogue and see if I have one saved lol
runic hinge
Where is kingsbane?!!!
spiral gale
10th
shell pawn
No point using KB on packs in Heroic
dawn heath
ye i only use it on bosses
runic hinge
Okay but how is your caustic that high without kb. That doesn’t even make sense
shell pawn
A lot more things splash with caustic so that's not too surprising
Obviously KB would be more but there are like 4-5 extra sources for splash damage from hero talents for caustic
Infact litterly every ability in deathstalker tree splashes with caustic
dawn heath
i think caustic is pretty strong on big pull sizes when things die quickly
median igloo
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dawn heath
just get your garrotes rupture and a CT up then u just spam highest hp target with envenoms
shell pawn
Because it doesent rely on KB as much it is always strong, but like last season low keys will always benefit more from CT and SD over big KB splatters
dawn heath
i would be curious to see someone else hit the dummy and compare the dmg breakdown
i am sustaining 2.3million dps on the 5 target dummies
this was 2minutes
shell pawn
Yea i don't think people realize how cracked assass desthstalker is gonna scale
tacit axle
Hey guys, im currently at 582ilvl and thinking of crafting my 606ilvl boots, since it shows that Boots and Bracers are BiS to craft on WoW Head, but, not sure if I should hold off? Any advice? Are our slots going to change at all? Or Embelishments?
remote trellis
Hey guys, im currently at 582ilvl and thinking of crafting my 606ilvl boots, sin...
sim it 
dawn heath
this is what i said the other day
shell pawn
Im holding all sparks for first myth cache
dawn heath
assasination is omega broken people dont realize it yet
for mythic+
our damage profile is just crazy
easily the best out of all specs in the game
shell pawn
I thought it was a bug when I saw every single dmg talent in hero tree splashed 😂
indigo mulch
What do you mean people dont realize it? Like 99% of all the m+'ers are saying how broken sin is lol
junior yoke
Im holding all sparks for first myth cache
What sparks? I dont even know if I have one
shell pawn
Sparks for crafting 606 gear
By the time myth cache comes out you should have 2 full sparks
2.5 unless they put one in weekly I think
tacit axle
I just dont know if boots/wrist is going to change for our crafted slots.
dawn heath
What do you mean people dont realize it? Like 99% of all the m+'ers are saying h...
i don't know community perception rogue the second least played class i would assume fotm players would go rogue if people thought it was OP but it seems like no one is
shell pawn
I wouldn't craft double spark ring for sure tho
tacit axle
as well as the Dawnthread embelish
shell pawn
Nobody fotm any rogue spec from what I see
indigo mulch
I mean even in s3 after sin rework we didn't have a massive surge of new rogues coming in.
shell pawn
Rather go mage/hunter/dk/warrior
dawn heath
i mean i started playing rogue just 5 days ago
shell pawn
I rolled frost dk and that shit is so boring ong
shell pawn
Going back to rogue and monk
dawn heath
mostly everyone just going fdk and fury warrior
shell pawn
Yea all these frost DKs gonna get cucked when they aren't top dps and nobody gives a fk about a grip for a single fight
dawn heath
i am hopeful that because we are underrepresented we will fly under the radar for m+
regal timber
i was googling around for raid testing videos of assas rogue and cant find much, how do they look in raid? is assas the way to go? still trying to decide on my main luckily blizz gave us a month to figure it out lul
shell pawn
Survival hunter is feeling pretty fun ATM as well
dawn heath
kind of how like enhance shaman was really broken for a long time in dragonflight but no one played it so it was fine
shell pawn
Sub is still strong afaik, outlaw ass, assassing prolly best
regal timber
Sub is still strong afaik, outlaw ass, assassing prolly best
pretty competitive in raid?
at least from what has been shown so far
shell pawn
I mean raid isent out and already plenty of changes since beta with more otw. Sub looks fine and assass looks like it will be top for rogue afaik
I'm usually too inebriated to play sub well because I miss my ST window, but it's pretty fun
ornate gazelle
is there a bug or reason mouseover bleeding isn't working? i have the option enabled and i've even replaced buttons with new ones, garrote and rupture, and the mouseovering still won't work
it worked before the new xpac
shell pawn
Like mouse over macro to apply bleeds?
ornate gazelle
yes but no reason to have a macro i thought, if you have the option enabled in blizz settings, mouseover should automatically work
which i've had for dragonflight
but it's not working now
shell pawn
I've never used the IG mouse over, I would just try with macros and see if it works
slate crown
I use the mouseover setting and it has not had any problems for me, it still works.
Have used it since early DF
ornate gazelle
yeah i've been doing it in dragonflight, it only "broke" with the new xpac
slate crown
Maybe it’s conflicting with an addon like clique or something?
Not sure what would cause it to break like that
ornate gazelle
yeah i haven't changed any addons or anything. i can't think of any addons i use that affect my mouseovers. plater? but it's the same
ornate gazelle
idk what clique is haha
slate crown
For click casting but blizzard made their own click casting so I don’t know if it’s used much anymore
balmy condor
do you have a log for this
the last time I saw caustic that high it was a scaling bug
royal lantern
espacialy when the Other poison dmg sources are not that high
shell pawn
Does singular focus form a closed loop?
Maybe some interaction with corrupt the blood and singular focus ?
cunning needle
runic hinge
balmy condor
if I'm hunting a bug watching an mp4 doesn't really help much
dawn heath
well why would it be abug xD
cerulean nest
are we thinking that raid builds will work similarly to s3 where we're literally swapping caustic in and out for cleave but otherwise sticking to one build?
dawn heath
i'm always doing the same amout of damage on these dummies so guess i'm always bugged then
runic hinge
Because your caustic damage is insane compared to the amount of poison damage you did
balmy condor
because we saw similar happen in dragonflgiht when they added it
and considering things like dawnthread have the same bugs that blue silk did
dawn heath
hold on let me see fi i can log and play again
devout schooner
are we playing Fatebound or Deathstalker in m+/raid?
devout schooner
so its just preferences
remote trellis
going in at level 70 
runic hinge
https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/iBqiQKk8lAiiUpEoj/d1337AG7zUCS?in...
I think your name is included with your clip btw
balmy condor
so its just preferences
for right now mostly yes, in super high end keys singular focus probably makes deathstalker go to
but we're far from that atm
shell pawn
Did you shiv KB I couldn't tell
I'm telling you there is def some splatter bug we haven't found with all these new sources
balmy condor
I'm mostly concerned with the old stuff not the new stuff
new stuff is broken in like 900 ways
shell pawn
Haha
devout schooner
I'm mostly concerned with the old stuff not the new stuff
I see thanks
dawn heath
I think your name is included with your clip btw
thats okay homie
ocean ferry
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robust axle
!dn
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Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?
- Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
Echoing Reprimand.... - Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
- Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
But the 3rd cp or something? - Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
Does Blizzard know? - There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.
cunning needle
!deeznuts
dawn heath
how can i even log target dumies?
runic hinge
runic hinge
You can upload your combat log
balmy condor
the txt file works too
but you need to have advanced logging on
in the game settings
ornate gazelle
@balmy condor what do you think the dps gain will be when echoing reprimand actually triggers the deathstalker stuff? seems like it'll be big, no?
balmy condor
like 2-3%
ornate gazelle
nooice
it feels SO bad rn
i assume you you prio darkest night finisher over echoing points right?
balmy condor
yeh
ornate gazelle
and just let the 5 points happen naturally but still finish on the echoing points?
balmy condor
yep
ornate gazelle
word, thanks (:
robust axle
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balmy condor
np
slender pewter
"Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand"
What do we drop for this?
whole sand
did you close and reopen your game
remote trellis
might have to /combatlog
dawn heath
yes and yes
remote trellis
did you delete your log before enabling it like it said
royal lantern
"Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point in...
resounding clarity, the talent after ER
dawn heath
np
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qx6hnDNRykzv7Vwr#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=18 okay so the damage numbers are lower cause it kept me in combat for awhile but u should abel to see dmg breakdown
balmy condor
yep thank you
balmy condor
nah that works
cunning needle
runic hinge
Save sprint for running away
dawn heath
it was a s hit pull anyway
i only did 2mil
i normally do 2.3
also why is combat starting here ???
stupid log
remote vector
Hi guys, is there a Rule of Thumb for Stat distribution?
quiet oar
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
dawn heath
nah that works
Did u find anything odd?
dawn heath
my details doesnt even show my caustic spatter dmg while hitting target dummy
Maybe u didnt talent it
dawn heath
Did u apply it 🤔
tall nimbus
Maybe there is no target near (your st) the
remote vector
How does haste affect my gameplay as a rogue?
silk bane
did u actualy mut to apply it?
vivid elbow
poison went off half-way
balmy condor
Did u find anything odd?
haven't looked yet, need to finish some stuff up
dawn heath
Ah
waxen oyster
@balmy condor Does anything we have count as ranged
to proc the nerubian venom dart
balmy condor
bone spike
waxen oyster
does it proc it
waxen oyster
looks like a weird trinket, like what agi specs even have ranged attacks
balmy condor
hunters
waxen oyster
what the hell is a nerubian venom dart
some trinket off a rare
i guess enhance too maybe?
wispy bane
So, since we only have 1 shiv in Dungeons now. Do we still use shiv before kingsbane or a few seconds before kingsbane falls off? I cant get my head around it (still learning)
royal lantern
before it falls off, and then on CD
waxen oyster
You have 2 if you play bleed
runic hinge
So, since we only have 1 shiv in Dungeons now. Do we still use shiv before kings...
With 8 seconds left if you have 1 charge
grim jay
You have 2 if you play bleed
Easy solution
waxen oyster
just talent out of iron wire
grim jay
Dont play bleed
waxen oyster
grim jay
waxen oyster
Dont play bleed
I find bleed better for trivial content
spring aurora
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junior yoke
Sparks for crafting 606 gear
Ah well i’m not thinking on spending money on that
grim jay
I find bleed better for trivial content
Im a "dont care for trivial things" type of guy
So I just run hybrid everywhere
waxen oyster
I hate myself slightly less
Even if my less geared alt warrior is better at world content
fallow sonnet
hey, looking at the WoWhead assass guide its telling me to make my crafted gear stats itemized into mastery and haste instead of crit and mastery. any idea why? would it be because the rest of the gear in the bis list balances out the crit and its no longer worth as much?
if im still gearing should i prioritize crit over haste before im like fully raid and mythic tier jacked?
balmy condor
since our stats are all pretty balanced I don't want people to full send anything
so I hide little shit like that all over the guide
to make sure people don't blindly craft crit mast everywhere
sprinkle a bit of haste here, bit of vers there
and it kinda evens out
fallow sonnet
ohh okay so the top 3 stats are just like get a lot of each of them and avoid vers?
balmy condor
yeah pretty much
waxen oyster
the funny thing is liking every stat should simplify gearing
yet people still complicate it
😂
fallow sonnet
hahahahh
balmy condor
oh it's insanely braindead yeah
it's basically just equip item level
even if it's vers heavy
and unless you have like a billion of any stat
waxen oyster
it's basically just equip item level
big number go bigger
balmy condor
you're good to go
cunning needle
man imagine if wow had this ability where you could change the secondary stat on your gear to another secondary stat
spring aurora
is there any target dummies in Dornogal?
balmy condor
yes
cunning needle
not all of it, but like 60% of one stat
fallow sonnet
yes by the gates
balmy condor
front entrance
spring aurora
cheers ty
balmy condor
not all of it, but like 60% of one stat
reforging is pointless in modern wow tbh
grim jay
man imagine if wow had this ability where you could change the secondary stat on...
I dont want to because its a dogshit System
cunning needle
is there any target dummies in Dornogal?
pvp zone
cobalt sphinx
Yeah reforging was dumb as hell
balmy condor
any imbalance you might have from gear
robust axle
I guess you always want bleeds reapplied before going into KB windows on AoE?
balmy condor
you end up just fixing with enchants and gems
balmy condor
I guess you always want bleeds reapplied before going into KB windows on AoE?
ye
well
"reapplied" is a strong word
there's no like duration needed
fallow sonnet
so if im crafting my first 590 whispyr should i opt for bracers over belt since belt option is better from the guy in raid even tho my current belt is like 5-10% better than my current bracer
probly yea?
balmy condor
but you want to go into it with rup/gar up
robust axle
Yea I just dont like reapplying the duration while in KB
balmy condor
so if im crafting my first 590 whispyr should i opt for bracers over belt since ...
you'd craft whatever you don't craft this week, next week
robust axle
I might just be bad tho
balmy condor
so it's whatever
spring aurora
Why would Hekili want me to keep applying garrote after first improved Garrote? Singel target
fallow sonnet
oh true
balmy condor
royal lantern
Yeah reforging was dumb as hell
reforging only existed cus of expertise back then anyway lol
grim jay
Why would Hekili want me to keep applying garrote after first improved Garrote? ...
Bcs hekili sucks
balmy condor
and I didn't even do all the crest side quest stuff or anything
I'm kinda running out of slots to craft
spring aurora
Bcs hekili sucks
That is true, works for some classes tho
balmy condor
we are not one of them
fallow sonnet
are those daggers crafted?
wait i might be dumb af
i should craft daggers first huh
balmy condor
are those daggers crafted?
the one of the right is yeah
the one on the left is just world quest drop I got week 1
robust axle
Do we just run double Dawnthread?
quiet oar
Can i call you daddy
fallow sonnet
the one of the right is yeah
is 593 adventurer track or higher
quiet oar
Beause your gear looks like it
fallow sonnet
sorry for question spamming but u the goat with the responses
balmy condor
Do we just run double Dawnthread?
I think it's a safe option, but unless they do another big tuning pass probably should go ascension/writhing
waxen oyster
fully upgraded adventurer track yes
balmy condor
is 593 adventurer track or higher
remote trellis
fallow sonnet
i should just full upgrade this then no?
grim jay
Doesnt look like critcap
balmy condor
i should just full upgrade this then no?
you can
waxen oyster
i havent crafted gear yet
balmy condor
no reason not to I guess
cobalt sphinx
upgrading costs more weathered crests than crafting
royal lantern
i just Upgraded all gear to 480 and called it a day, wont be throwing out gold for crafted shit
balmy condor
yeh but I think it's fine for a main hand to upgrade
spring aurora
For fatebound, do we play CB and Inevitability?
balmy condor
not like any of this matters
balmy condor
For fatebound, do we play CB and Inevitability?
yes
waxen oyster
i dont think 5-10k for a piece is expensive though
but yeah irrelevant
ill probably make some purely because raiding tuesday sucks
balmy condor
lowkey think I'm crafting for mog next week
balmy condor
Spec out of Deeper Stratagem or what?
heavens no
royal lantern
i dont think 5-10k for a piece is expensive though
tbh, you pay for it later cus the gear is "tainted" with low rank materials
which is a real thing
balmy condor
tall nimbus
Don’t know I just wait the 15 delves and 8 mm0 to upgrade something I don’t care for 590
waxen oyster
tbh, you pay for it later cus the gear is "tainted" with low rank materials
wdym
balmy condor
tea and deeper are hard required
robust axle
I think it's a safe option, but unless they do another big tuning pass probably ...
Oh are we goign CB over ER? nicee
balmy condor
fatebound
spring aurora
tea and deeper are hard required
heard Deathstalkers is bugged, so ill try FB and see
balmy condor
not deathstalker, deathstalker still runs er
waxen oyster
fatebound you basically play like prepatch
except now you have a coin proc in your details
royal lantern
wdym
if you used rank1-2 materials for a craft, and then want to re-craft it later to a higher ilvl (which means higher crafted difficulty)
the low rank materials used will make the craft harder, and its possible that it first needs a recraft with t3 mats to be a "t3 material item" and then amother one for the actual recraft
totally well thought out system with obvious things going on
robust axle
Ah I see. I guess FB is the play until they fix Deathstalker then
royal lantern
remote trellis
if you used rank1-2 materials for a craft, and then want to re-craft it later to...
just use t3 materials the first time
royal lantern
t3 mats for a fucking item that is not even normal raid level
waxen oyster
or just make with fresh mats
royal lantern
get help
spring aurora
sick burst if you get lucky as Fatebound
royal lantern
waxen oyster
next time
realistically you could just do fresh crafts when prices drop
for real ilvl pieces
royal lantern
ill say it again btw
crafted items is not the Problem this time
ita consumables
waxen oyster
consumables are always a problem