assassination

[balmy condor]

no

[vagrant pawn]

btw.... i'm leatherworker right now.. should I go engi or something else? :/ I don't do any pvp. mainly just pve

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter

[stray fox]

fatebound is chill deathstalker feels like it should give more for the mental effort

[runic hinge]

whatevermakes you the most money

[vagrant pawn]

kk

[balmy condor]

I mean it does

but it gives it in things like prio damage in aoe

which isn't really "more"

[stray fox]

more than it does*

[little tulip]

prices will increase when raids and m+ appear sept 10th

[balmy condor]

you won't see fatebound in m+

[little tulip]

you should brobably hoarde lol

[balmy condor]

in like

3 weeks

[fair stirrup]

not for items that don't stack. single items are server only

[drifting lily]

when is m0's

[silent hollow]

!wa

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[little tulip]

it's on the blizzard timeline

on their website

[balmy condor]

are null stones not a commodity

it's just armor/weapons that are server still

[little tulip]

sept 10th for mythic plus but i think m0 opens next tuesday?

[balmy condor]

anything crafting mat is a commodity and should be region wide

[fair stirrup]

oh fasho. my bad, i'm just working off my experience selling across diff servers, kinda ignorant still of the full explanation

[daring cave]

Hello everyone, I was watching a video and they said not to take Echoing Reprimand due to it not working correctly. Is this still true?

[fair stirrup]

appreciate the clarification

[balmy condor]

no and it never was true

[onyx mesa]

10th is m0, 17th is M+

[balmy condor]

you don't take resounding because of the bug

[daring cave]

Ahhhh ok

[balmy condor]

but you still take echoing

[little tulip]

you just go energy starvation if you don''t know er rotation

[daring cave]

Got ya, I was looking at the guides and was confused. Also i saw Hybrid is best for M+ compared to bleed?

[little tulip]

if you wanna play take ho

[balmy condor]

ye, bleed loses too much single target

[little tulip]

for outlaw at least

[daring cave]

ty

[little tulip]

outlaw just makes er seem weird, try it with sassin honestly

it's fun and evil lol

[little tulip]

should have left mop remix up for another week or two

[dapper cradle]

Nah still heroics next week

[little tulip]

should have had dragonflight raids up for another week or 3 then too l00000l

sr jigglesworth deserved better lol

just send them to ilevel 554 as it goes lol.

[junior patrol]

guys do you have any smartmisdirect WA which is working at the moment?

[fathom valve]

back again, apologizing in advance.

but has anyone noticed not getting their lucky coin when jumping directly from 6 to 8 due to double jeopardy?

[bold hearth]

Everyone's saying to use droptimizer for trinkets, but my droptimizer keeps changing what my top trinket is.

[balmy condor]

yes

that's a bug

[fathom valve]

okay cool nevermind then

[true bough]

heya! Someone got Assa dots aura?

[cursive frost]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

!wa

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[true bough]

Ty

[glad forum]

what are yall using ur first spark on?

[potent dawn]

Whatever stays good once the season is out

[dark token]

whatever slot i dont have from heroic

[onyx linden]

Is ascension sigil already nerfed? wowhead and ingame values very different

[balmy condor]

whats it in game

[onyx linden]

seems reasonable?

wowhead says 1071

[balmy condor]

yeh thats spelldata jank cause of how blizzard wrote the item level scaling

[onyx linden]

ah

So the in game value is jank until you put it on a weapon then?

[balmy condor]

the in game value is correct

[onyx linden]

ah ok

[pulsar apex]

wowhead says boots and bracers this S1 for crafting

worth sparking or waiting

[balmy condor]

waiting

[onyx linden]

wait

[pulsar apex]

❤️

[balmy condor]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

You can freely use weathered crests to craft any 590's you'd like. Preferences currently are wrist/belt/rings.

The current "best" embellishment is Ascension on a dagger with a nerubian patch on wrist. This is very overtuned compared to other embellishments and nerfs/buffs are expected.
The current "safe" embellishment to craft is dawnthread on wrist/belt, as this will most likely be generically good.
Blizzard has been tuning embellishments near daily since the expansion has come out. Because of this, IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO CHASE BIS EMBELLISHMENTS OR USE SPARKS CURRENTLY
Towards the start of raid release recommendations will update everywhere.

[balmy condor]

can read

[onyx linden]

if you want embellish now just throw it on 590 gear

[pulsar apex]

im dumb becaus i cant work out how to weatherd crest to 590 by crafting

[onyx linden]

By nascent->ench order to enchanted->put enchanted on craft order for 5Star

[pulsar apex]

this thing?

[onyx linden]

yes

[pulsar apex]

ok tyvm

[waxen oyster]

how much did your dawnthreads cost btw

tempted to make a 590 bracer since stuck with a green

[balmy condor]

0

I didn't put embellishments on

[coral agate]

Why not wait or just buy one from the AH @waxen oyster ?

[waxen oyster]

wait i could have sworn you had one

[balmy condor]

fuck no

crafter needed rank 3 for 590

[spice surge]

dawnthread r1 is like 10 gold or something

[balmy condor]

yeah sure

[waxen oyster]

10k?

[spice surge]

Mb meant r1

[balmy condor]

crafter told me can only do with r3 everything

and I did some quick math

would've been like 95k each

[waxen oyster]

i prefer going to guildies

[balmy condor]

and I said fuck no

[novel star]

29 🤓

[waxen oyster]

random crafters i feel try to scamaz

[balmy condor]

17k is still wild

[novel star]

yeah lol

fuck that

[waxen oyster]

Yeah i would have bought if like

under 5k

[uneven plume]

Tell them you’ll send nudes

[shell quail]

!wa

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[balmy condor]

all that money just for blizzard to not nerf ascension

and not nerf binding of binding

and then you need to recraft anyway

doomed

[flat sentinel]

Haha hope they bring somthing out soon so we can craft next or raid week will we have two sparks for herioc week or we don’t know yet

[balmy condor]

as it stands right now I think it's gotta be heroic week dagger craft and pray for the spark

[flat sentinel]

Ahh ok then what ilvl can we do the dagger?

[balmy condor]

Whatever the heroic crests go to I guess

[swift wing]

does fatebound sin own

or am i just like

silly willy

[balmy condor]

It’s pretty good in low content atm but not any significant portion better than deathstalker

[maiden sierra]

is this good?

[balmy condor]

It’s better than not having anything I guess

[maiden sierra]

so its bis, thanks

[balmy condor]

Thats not what I said

[pliant remnant]

It's BIS?

Damn, where'd you get it

I'mma go farm for it

[maiden sierra]

stole it from kobolds

[flat sentinel]

Gota do a side quest then can pickpocket em

[balmy condor]

We’re so cooked

[pliant remnant]

[drifting cloud]

is this the pickpocketing buff that was promised

[maiden sierra]

what you said and what i wanted to believe didint align so i forced the dimentional rift to merge the realities into the one i envissioned to be bis

[balmy condor]

Put the wax in your crimson vial and choke

[drifting cloud]

do I light it up and inhale it

[terse mesa]

Does this damage breakdown look anywhere near it should? was from a heroic cinderbrew only 559 gear

[balmy condor]

Reasonable

[novel star]

spatter low i think

[orchid cedar]

stuff dies too fast

[novel star]

but yeah

[orchid cedar]

spatter can't do miracles

[flat sentinel]

It’s nice when you get a group of low dps can do so much dmg

[orchid cedar]

all of that SD dmg means stuff died indeed too fast

[balmy condor]

Spatter is kinda expected there

[orchid cedar]

btw how many sparks should i have rn if i haven't crafted anything?

[terse mesa]

ok cool getting back into rogue for main after years.

[bronze pike]

oil or stone ?

[balmy condor]

2 halves

[flat sentinel]

One

[balmy condor]

Stones

[novel star]

i used my spark on dogshit

[flat sentinel]

I’ve already crafted like 100 whetstones ready for raid lol n keys

[orchid cedar]

ok ty

[balmy condor]

With these ore prices?

Insane

[flat sentinel]

I farm ores on my alts

Send to main

But I’ve also spent a fair bit yes

[vapid terrace]

help. i shadowstepped to a mob and fell through the ground, now instantly DC'ing. I went to the character stuck spot and its sayign something went wrong on their end. is there something else i can do?

[flat sentinel]

Oh shit 💩

Ticket is probly all you can do have you tried logging into a diff toon?

[vapid terrace]

yeah ive been fucking around on a hunter for the last hour and wanting to kms

[flat sentinel]

So don’t shadow step ok lol 😂

I don’t want that to happen to me it’s like the boat not spawning in that dungeon gota leave and re enter hope they fix that before m+

[tired gull]

it happened to me while leveling,logged out for a bit, when i logged back in i was at a graveyard 😬

[pure moth]

I shadow stepped something and fell to bottom level of a boat and was stuck behind a barrel. I had to teleport out of dungeon and back in lol

[vapid terrace]

i waited an hour though. i flew around getting all the +3 skinning/lw knowledge and random stuff. i guess a normal ticket and hope they eventually look at it?

the instant i log in it dc;s me to log in area

[tired gull]

i flew up really high looking for a skyriding glyph, and it teleported me inside a delve

[grim zodiac]

where envenom

[flat sentinel]

lol 😂 we still playing alpha

[rich swift]

!wa

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[terse mesa]

any alternatives to running echoing reprimand? I can deal with it but i also dont care for it lol. Just copied the bleed M+ build off wowhead with deathstalker.

[humble ginkgo]

what % is assa tier

[flat sentinel]

High if good player 😛

[earnest remnant]

[narrow basalt]

Cold blood is the alternative. I think it's still a loss (unsure how many %) in overall damage on deathstalker. But looks like cold blood is preferred on Fatebound bc of the hero tree.

[humble ginkgo]

i dont even know how to reply to that

[earnest remnant]

nah

i wouldnt either tbh

[narrow basalt]

[balmy condor]

2%

No idea what that guy was on about

[cerulean nest]

how do I look through beta logs efficiently? I’ve tried in the past but sorting through them is a nightmare

[pliant remnant]

What % is assa tier if I refuse to use Rupture, guys

it sounds too close to "rapture" and thus goes against my religion

[dim yacht]

better than if you make a cursed build without venemous wounds

(i tried it once for a meme)

always been told to always use amplifying poison if talented into it, but im pretty sure thats not the case if you dont run venemous wounds

[tawdry crypt]

in st we only ever ambush on pull? just mutlate from vanish? why

[pliant remnant]

Have you thought of reading what's below the first half of the below?

[balmy condor]

You don’t

That’s just the beta log experience

[cerulean nest]

I literally just want to look at general fight timing stuff

[balmy condor]

Then shouldn’t be a big issue

Just need to sort by fight in the all reports

[tawdry crypt]

is sin simming accurately?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[tawdry crypt]

hmm

why am I using fok in st

[cerulean nest]

hero talent strong

[balmy condor]

Deathstalker good

[cerulean nest]

but also it’s in one particular build that isn’t as good as the better one so frick it

[tawdry crypt]

my sin is simming like 360k st no buffs

that feels weak no?

[cerulean nest]

correct

something is wrong or you have no gear

[tawdry crypt]

"no buffs"

I'm like 573

[balmy condor]

No buffs yeah

That’s fine

[tawdry crypt]

and we're still clipping envenoms?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[tranquil ruin]

im new to rogue and im tryin to figure out what's randomly giving me / refreshing slice and dice

[balmy condor]

Cut to the chase

[novel star]

envenom

with cut to the chase talent yeah

or uh

not a talent anymore

spell

xd

[tranquil ruin]

ohh thats why i couldnt find it

ty

[cerulean nest]

so just to catch myself up. currently strongest embels are ascension and the writhing bandings, but everyone’s waiting for raid week

right?

[balmy condor]

Yeah

[cerulean nest]

tight

being a tuesday raider makes me panic

gotta hard commit to something day 1 lol

[digital venture]

!wa

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[ripe carbon]

so tuesday is the same day as release for americans?

[cerulean nest]

that’s our reset day yes

[ripe carbon]

i was thinking wednesday was for some reason\

its reset for us in oceanic too

[noble pagoda]

wednesday is eu

[ripe carbon]

i was thinking oceanic was wednesday for some reason

[dim yacht]

it is if youre in nz

in nz its at 2am or something

[ripe carbon]

ya i was confused because it was saying in calender 'nerubar palace opens' on tuesday morning

[bold lodge]

Does anyone know how much DPS the animacharge bug represents?

[tawdry crypt]

I feel like I'm not able to keep envenoms chaining

like I run out of energy

[noble pagoda]

in st u wont have enough to constantly

[spice surge]

Like 1-1.5%ish iirc

Feels way worse than it is

[noble pagoda]

youll have to stop presding buttons and then work up enough energy go chain a few

[velvet cloak]

is there a m+ spec that doesnt use crimson temp?

[spice surge]

Probably not

Since its like the best talent

[noble pagoda]

it‘s a lot of dps

[velvet cloak]

i hate it so much lol

i changed 1 talent to get 2 shivs

[bold lodge]

Thanks, it does feel way bigger than that. Do you know what the total is among the other bugs in the pinned spreadsheet?

[noble pagoda]

it‘s just one button lol

[sick smelt]

Sin is looking like the thing to run for raid, yeah?

[noble pagoda]

in 1,5 weeks you‘ll know for sure

but it‘s not bad

[oblique jackal]

Can anyone link a rupture mouseover macro please

[pliant remnant]

#showtooltip Rupture
/cast [target=mouseover,exists] Rupture; Rupture

[noble pagoda]

#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover, harm, nodead] Rupture

[sick smelt]

ye, just trying to decide what I want to run for day1, outlaw is simming higher but also I know sims arent everything so

[mint urchin]

add a [] at the end of it imo

[pliant remnant]

I'd advise adding ;Rupture at the end

Otherwise I'm pretty sure you can't press it if you're not mousing over something

[mint urchin]

So that it will rupture your target if not mousing over

[noble pagoda]

add a second empty set of square brackets after the first if you want to be able to rapture your target without mouseovering it

[pliant remnant]

or that

[noble pagoda]

rapture btw lmao

[ripe carbon]

anyone know why my weakaura for improved garrote disappears after stealth then repears for the last 3 seconds?

[noble pagoda]

no

you‘d have to link it

im sadly on my phone though

[pliant remnant]

Sounds like something related to Master Assassin maybe

[noble pagoda]

are you tracking the correct buff?

[shell lodge]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[noble pagoda]

because mine worked fine just now

also double check the duration parameters

maybe accidentally some funky >=< mishap

[ripe carbon]

trigger>aura>buff>improved garrotee basically?

oh wait there is

dunno why that was there

[noble pagoda]

make sure you‘re also tracking yourself and not your target

[ripe carbon]

its fixed was something added >3 seconds for some reason

[noble pagoda]

yeah I know that, sometimes I forget to remove some unnecessary stuff when duplicating other auras

[shell lodge]

are there sim numbers available for DS vs fatebound atm?

[rich swift]

!wa

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[restive falcon]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[main blaze]

oh no.. boo tempered pots pull you out of stealth

[chilly parcel]

yo I've noticed that I can't find much info on the pheromone trinkie from the severed threads rep vendor
it sims very poorly but it seems like the sim can't read the sockets (?) so idk if It's really that bad

[feral silo]

Yo, I've notice that this trinket never mentioned in any guide https://www.wowhead.com/beta/item=219308/signet-of-the-priory?bonus=657:10358:5982:7981 is it that bad? or does this have some hidden downsides? cause it's looks like Skardyn's with a little stat shenanigans

[cunning needle]

i think because the dungeon isnt part of m+

[dusk ingot]

was wondering about the minecart trinket as well, then realized that's likely the reason since darkflame isn't part of the rotation

[feral silo]

ohh my bad.. so it's only good for w1

[cunning needle]

yeah

cant even get from m0 as well since they changed it to be the s1 dungeons (i think)

[dusk ingot]

i believe all dungeons of xpac plus seasonal can be m0...

at least thats how it was last xpac, but we'll see i guess?

[cunning needle]

i heard they changed it to be only the s1 dungeons this time

but yeah see what happens in a week

[fading mantle]

Dude i think i was just with you in a Heroic an hour or so ago … at the spiders dungeon (forgot what it’s called)

[feral silo]

ara-kara, yeah it could be me 🙂

was farming legs

[fading mantle]

Yeehh .. i was the other rogue “Standi” with a VERY bad dps.

What was your rotation bro ? Because i think i suck and messing it up BADLY.

[robust nacelle]

brand new rogue, hi 😂 sorting out my actions bars, do I need mutilate on my stealth bar?

or is it most of the time garrote/ambush from stealth?

[dusk ingot]

mut doesn't need to be on stealth bar, only garotte and ambush really

and stuff like cs and sap for when doing other stuff

also welcome to the fold.. i'm kinda new as well... trying to get my grasp on assassin, since last played it before the rework in ssn3... debating between it and outlaw for WW S1

[robust nacelle]

Thanks 😄

[feral silo]

Well, actually I spent 3-4 hours watching Whispyr videos(it's pinged) and after that I spent like 8-10 hours at target dummy and now I'm just running heroics non-stop for muscle memory rotation, and I make a LOT of mistakes esp on aoe

[robust nacelle]

Nice to have a pleasant introduction to a class discord, haha

A nice change

I main warlock/priest

but I want to pick up 4 characters for S1... tank/healer/melee dps/caster

[dusk ingot]

I used to main Warrior/Paladin but wanting to get back into the stabby stuff myself... since no one else in my guild/team can understand it.. heh

[robust nacelle]

hehe

[dusk ingot]

literally responded to me saying i might go rogue with "really? it's too complicated for me"

[novel star]

rogue is ezyyyyy

[robust nacelle]

I think assass is complicated but I like complicated, haha

hence disc priest

[robust nacelle]

damn it, haha

[novel star]

kidding

kinda

[robust nacelle]

phew

[novel star]

in ST assa is extremely easy

and slow

aoe is somewhat complex tho

[robust nacelle]

I mainly play m+ so that'll suit me

[dusk ingot]

yeah the aoe assassin spec is nuts... fun though when it gets going...

your numbers just climb and climb and things give a nice splat when envenom crits

[robust nacelle]

sounds awesome

[novel star]

ya

[robust nacelle]

I plan on affli lock for keys

I wonder if assass is too similar?

probably not?

[novel star]

not really

sin has more burst than aff afaik

[fading mantle]

What do you actually do if your group attacked and you’re out of stealth, before building up points for rupture ? I just do the normal rotation from what i remember garrote>Rupture>mut>garrote>crimson tempest> fan of knives> envenom.

Is that right (for when out of stealth) ?

@feral silo

Or whoever can answer this 😁😁

[novel star]

if ur just trying to get bleeds up for energy the non stealth garrote is whatever

[feral silo]

if we can't come to boss in next 1,5 min I pop vanish

[novel star]

can just fan and rupture i think

[feral silo]

also i'm ne so i abuse shadoweld-restealth

[dusk ingot]

my question, relating to that (the whole team jumps stuff before you can restealth), is it worth it to vanish so you can start a proper stealth based rot, or just say FX and go non-stealth till you can go normal stealth again? So you can save the vanish CD for bosses?

[feral silo]

also you can x3 rupture cause of bone talent it cashback you some cps

[fading mantle]

Most of the time i can’t stealth (because i guess i’m slow) soo they jump on the next pack and then next. I only do the stealth rotation about 20% of the dungeonn.

[feral silo]

so you won't go dry

[dusk ingot]

Well it's heroics.. so people are speed demoning them...

at least what i've noticed

[novel star]

chain pulling is better than waiting for your rogue to stealth every time regardless of the context

it gives the rogue higher overall dps and every other class too

and makes the key faster

[dusk ingot]

so i can't ever stealth between packs cuz lately every tank pulls half or whole rooms and doesn't wait for adds to die before yanking the boss

[fading mantle]

Ohh that’s nice ! But wouldn’t be a waste like that if i could do other dps abilities ?

[feral silo]

energy is your bread and butter

and you're multidot class anyway

more rupture -> more energy

[novel star]

getting a “bad” non stealth opener on the next pack (rupture sniping and new sbs make this a lot smoother anyway) will still make your dps higher overall because the group isn’t standing around doing nothing is the idea basically

i’m just parroting whispyr but yeah

i trust that guy

[novel star]

^

[fading mantle]

I agree .. i just wanted how would i go about the rotation in these situations. Because i realize my dps drops off significantly, when i do that out of stealth rotation.

[novel star]

you just need to manually apply multiple ruptures

[feral silo]

so you need your bleeds rolling

[novel star]

no ruptures = no energy = no buttons = no damage

and no scent of blood also

[dusk ingot]

okay cool, thanks for the info

so do some tab target ruptures at 3x, and roll with it..

[novel star]

can use a mouseover macro if you want

[dusk ingot]

and vanish if you got 1.5+ before boss

[novel star]

lots of people do it so they don’t have to stop auto attacking the spatter target

[feral silo]

and for herocis now with rly low hp adds, i just shadowstep garotte ->rupture->rupture->rupture -> normal rotation

running with tank most of the time xD

[fading mantle]

Awesome info ! Learning here ! Thank you both @novel star @feral silo !

I was actually comparing my dps to yours @feral silo , where you’re was SUPER SUPER amazing, and i was extremely behind ! Thank you for teaching me ! Will also check out whispyr !

[novel star]

he has some recent videos on the tww builds/rotation for raid and m+ that are good

long tho

[feral silo]

naah, i'm bad want to slap myself everytime I messed up xD

[novel star]

everyone is always bad

that’s life

🫡

[feral silo]

facts

[fading mantle]

Absolutely !! And still am learning from you guys ! Really appreciate it a lot !! @feral silo @novel star

[novel star]

glhf

[robust nacelle]

this class discord is actually pretty wholesome, haha

[novel star]

spec is dope

[novel star]

depends lol

it gets tilting some days

[fading mantle]

Definitely .. but needs a lot of practice 😆

[novel star]

when too many ppl come in asking like giga dumb questions

but generally its chill i think ya

i’m p new to being active in here i’ve just played sin for a while and i likey

[tired gull]

nearly 2m envenoms are very satisfying

[woven onyx]

I was tied between this and dev, but assass just feels great (only bosses anyway) when you pull it off right

Not ever getting to stealth tho and consant aoe spam aint as fun but getting there

[violet acorn]

damn, was gearing in heroic and rolled 9 tails in a row
coin criting for 1kk in 567 gear seems humongous

[novel star]

coin go flip

[vital flicker]

So I have a deathstalker question. Say I am opening on a single-target boss and I have a 20-second on-use trinket, would I put up my deathmark and my trinket and then wait 6 seconds to use my Kingsbane to get 4 seconds of lingering darkness at the end of the Kingsbane during the trinket window?

[runic hinge]

the last tick of kb hits just after dm naturally so you don't need to delay

and you want as much of kb during dm as possible to stack it

[dawn heath]

right guys

whats the probabilit of us getting nerfed

[vital flicker]

how long does it take to reach max stacks of kingsbane

[dawn heath]

99%?

assa is way too strong in m+ atleast

its crazy

[vital flicker]

M+ isn't even out

[runic hinge]

with you dm you should hit max stacks pretty reliably now

[bronze pike]

hi aljan

post sin boss dam in m+

:3

[dawn heath]

it is just disgustingly unethical op

we have busted damage profile for everything

uncapped cleave single target funnel

[bronze pike]

dats sub

sub sleeper

[spice surge]

No assa is the funnel spec

[sonic zinc]

FUNNEL

!

[spice surge]

Unironically

[bronze pike]

i refuse to beliebe

sub lies

[sonic zinc]

sub is a reverse funnel system

[halcyon citrus]

any high mythic + assa rogue youtubers? I want to watch some gameplay

[dawn heath]

like maybe im tripping but assa seems to have no weaknesses

in damage profile

they're literally cracked at everything

[spice surge]

Pure singletarget

Its not horrid, but its not good

[dawn heath]

i mean, i'm not sure yet it seems pretty strong but i can see us maybe falling off once the fights get really long

but its sitll way above average

[spice surge]

Well ye obviously if the fight is 20 seconds a deathmark is gonna do good damage

Not when a fight is 4 minutes though

[runic hinge]

What if it’s 21 seconds

[sonic zinc]

u lose damage

[runic hinge]

damn

[junior aurora]

real

[sonic zinc]

every second after 20, u lose 2% damage

[runic hinge]

you can chief my rocket

[crude anvil]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dawn heath]

i'm hoping assa goes under the radar and we don't see nerfs as i assume we're kinda mid in raids

[crimson ocean]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[dawn heath]

also rogue is super underplayed in general

[sonic zinc]

its fine, we wont get nerfs bc we have too many bugs

[junior aurora]

lots of bugs in the raid too

[novel star]

horde pandaren rogue since 8.3 🫡

[vital flicker]

also in Heroic dungeons rn a huge amount of damage comes from Sudden Demise which really inflates how they look compared to when mobs have more health

[novel star]

one of the least represented combos

[sonic zinc]

sd is so funny

[dawn heath]

i started playing rogue like 4 days ago

[vital flicker]

sudden demise is just sniping damage from other players to make your own dps look higher which is poggers

[dawn heath]

i had a duengon where sudden demise was my 2nd highest damage source

[vital flicker]

but it's not real

[dawn heath]

but normally caustic is omega blasting

[tired gull]

just did city of threads, felt like my deathstalkers mark didn't work half the time

[placid adder]

Yeah I’d just run FB for the time being

[sonic zinc]

what do u mean by didnt work

[tired gull]

ambush from stealth, no mark

[sonic zinc]

ah

[tired gull]

7cp envenom with dn, no mark

[dawn heath]

i've noticed sometimes when i press ambush from stealth i don't get the mark or something weird seems to break me out of stealth

not sure if anyone else noticed this

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/iAZW3JszqBiICxqgx/d13378dytLKT?invite=cr-MSxDclksMTcyMzI0NTA1LA

can someone explain what happends here

it just breaks me out of stealth

i watched it in slowmotion also stil dont understand

[runic hinge]

[cedar elm]

anyone have the sims for each spec

[spice surge]

What? You pressed CT

Not ambush

[dawn heath]

well ye because my stleaht broke

its on the same button

but out of stealth

[glossy light]

Wait do we spend at 5+ CP And not 6? Im just reading the guide

[spice surge]

yes

[dawn heath]

i paused at this frame here

u can see i shadowstepped and im gonna press ambush

and it breaks me out

for some reason

[spice surge]

My guess is that you autoed it

But hard to tell without logs

[dawn heath]

this tends to happend to me alot tbh

like once per duengon

[glossy light]

Whats the logic behind it? Potentional overcapping cp on next builder?

[spice surge]

Yes you dont want to waste cp

And since mutilate generates 2-4 cp

Its a waste to cast it at 5

[dawn heath]

at this frame now im out of stealth u still cant see me on the dmg meter so wouldnt my auto be there then?

[spice surge]

(unless you have darkest night, in which case its just painful)

[glossy light]

Okay thanks

[runic hinge]

the spider has truesight no?

[dawn heath]

that doesnt matter?

im not getting autod

tank has aggro

[balmy condor]

Yeh idk

There’s true sight/aggro range stuff that puts you in combat

But shouldn’t break it

[dawn heath]

it happends alot tbh so i kinda gotta figure out whast going on

[balmy condor]

I haven’t really noticed it personally but maybe it’s just cause we’re pulling the entire dungeon in one go

[dawn heath]

i just notice it because i dont get my mark when i press my ambush

[main blaze]

More than likely its just something new that breaks stealth from some other player.

If you are playing with the same class/specs then might want to experiment with them near a target dummy or something

Also like Eleem said, logs help.

[knotty vapor]

does anyone know the spell id for the debuff applied by deathstalker's mark?

just typing in deathstalker's mark into my WA doesn't work

i think it's looking at the talent instead, and I can't find the debuff anywhere

[main blaze]

457129 @knotty vapor

[knotty vapor]

yesss, thank you, that worked perfectly

is that an addon that shows it?

[dawn heath]

anyone got a working mouseover step kick macro?

[main blaze]

idtip

[knotty vapor]

cool ty

[dawn heath]

i made my own one but its bit incosistant

[vital flicker]

at the same frame that your stealth broke that mob on the right casted darkblade, I wonder if that is connected

[alpine pagoda]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[vital flicker]

clearly the answer is just to spec into Without a Trace, gives you a 6 second window for deathstalker's mark and will make Whispyr rage at the same time

[dim yacht]

seems like a good pre season trinket

from a side quest in azj in anyone wants it, but i think mine upgraded to rare

[balmy thicket]

I'm using a darkmoon card and the upgradable 571 trinket from the severed threads rep

[dim yacht]

darkmoon card pretty doodoo i think

havent looked at the severed threads one

[balmy thicket]

its probably true, it's on the chopping block for me - do you think the Signet of the Priory is any good?

[dim yacht]

seems like a good contender

bascially just the grim batol trinket assuming your highest stat is mastery

[rotund oak]

yeah if u completely forget that its 554 ilvl

[waxen oyster]

@balmy condor ahahahhaha

[rotund oak]

so true^^

[dawn heath]

true

[dim yacht]

yeah i know its not great ilvl, but its a pretty big mastery buff. with a higher buff over 12 seconds, itd be pretty big for an opening burst

[waxen oyster]

use the horn for solo content clearly

9k mast

[dim yacht]

what if we just all use horns

then we all get 9k mastery...right?

[waxen oyster]

its probably shared with bran so not even good for delve

[dawn heath]

i've been playing my rogue alot but its just been a learning experience not for gearing

since its the first time i play the spec

[rotund oak]

dawnbreaker trinket + ara-kara or a 580 on-use primary,ideally with primary stat coz agil comes before everything

[ripe carbon]

just gotta practice for a bit

[dim yacht]

fair, ill admit the dawnbreaker one does seem better

[waxen oyster]

i actually dont know how my threads rep is 8

[slow pulsar]

im sure u get this question a lot but if we are playing 1 shiv do we use it at the start or end of kingsbane?

[dim yacht]

when you rep up any of the sub factions, it also gives you 2500 rep with severed threads

[waxen oyster]

oh i somehow pushed the other 2
to 3 at once

[dim yacht]

also means for the weekly dungeon quest for 1500 rep, never pick severed threads

pick a subfaction instead

no reason not to pick a sub faction over the main one

[waxen oyster]

there was a guy who picked the subfactions

so his trinket procs 3 stacks of the buf

Although I do feel hallowfall reps up the fastest

of the 4

[dim yacht]

i focused on dornogal, cause i needed the enchanting knowledge

so im at 12 for dorn, and the rest way less

[ripe carbon]

im at 11/10/11/9 and i picked dornogal

[dim yacht]

yeah i could def get the others up

i just cba, too much gold to be made

[ripe carbon]

thats with me doing all rares and treasures this week

[rotund oak]

it doesnt matter rly

[ripe carbon]

im not gonna bother i dont think

takes too much time and i still get behind for some reason compared to others

[dim yacht]

go have fun, make all the gold while its good

ive spent probably less than 10 hours total so far on actual content

and im plenty geared and ready

rest goes into gold making

[ripe carbon]

treasures are a 1 time thing right, and not weekly?

[dim yacht]

yeah

[waxen oyster]

theater event dropped the jc recipe

[dim yacht]

juicy

[waxen oyster]

though unsure how good that neck even is

[dim yacht]

oh not the ring?

[rotund oak]

awakening cache,wax and sidequests?

[dim yacht]

i thought it was a ring, not a neck

[ripe carbon]

yes all done

wax i dunno

[rotund oak]

u do know,u dont wanna admit 😉

[waxen oyster]

Oh wait it is a ring

[rotund oak]

also pvp quest

[ripe carbon]

i know the wax u trade for valorstones?

[waxen oyster]

Strange effect

[ripe carbon]

or wax u can collect but i dont really know

[dim yacht]

well you can sell the recipe for a decent amount xiani

[ripe carbon]

i just heard people say something like wax gives valorstones

[dim yacht]

someone earlier was trying to find one for 650k on my server

[slate crown]

Nobody is behind right now

[rotund oak]

there are couple of rares u can dig from wax iirc

[slate crown]

season hasn't started, you can enter the season without max upgraded gear and be fine

[waxen oyster]

they were a mil on the ah

Lol

[rotund oak]

yeah everything reboots at season launch

just be 580+

[slate crown]

nah they aren't, they're not worth much

you can give it to me

i'll take care of it

[ripe carbon]

if this season fails for me theirs always season 2 i guess

[dim yacht]

yeah id sell it for sure

idk what the huge deal is, people are acting like its lariat 2.0 or something

[rotund oak]

the only thing that matters now is cooking ur professions and preparing for season launch with materials

thats the impactful thing to do

[dim yacht]

the only thing that matters now is making as much gold as possible

[ripe carbon]

mmmm im gonna go do that and get all my 70s knowledge points and darkmoon fiare points

[rotund oak]

that u can do anyway

[ripe carbon]

just i dont know whether to put them into full spec spending gold on them..

[dim yacht]

more gold to be made now and first 2 weeks of season than any other point in xpac

[rotund oak]

not enttirely true but u can easily make some now

[dim yacht]

definitely true

i made 90m in first 3 weeks of dragonflight, and that was with my profession tree being completely cooked

[waxen oyster]

Oh for sure, I was just primarily thinking the value would have been higher.

[dim yacht]

if id done it right, i would have made 200m

[rotund oak]

never said it isnt true,ive make 1.34mil from raw materials till now

[waxen oyster]

if the craft was more desirable

[dim yacht]

yeah maybe. just try to get rid of it before next reset xiani

cause then everyone will do the event again for their weekly cache

[waxen oyster]

That's what I'm doing yeah

[dim yacht]

the gold now just blows gold at any other point of the xpac completely out of the water, its not even a competition. its to the point where in dragonflight i didnt even play the first week except the last few days. i could buy carries, and make more gold in the time it took me to be carried than it cost me

[rotund oak]

just stop,im not here to yap about 200k gold.U can do gold any time of the expansion with boosting,now its early farming materials because there arent enough in the market to satisfy the needs

[dim yacht]

youre right, this isnt the place to go in depth about that kind of thing

sorry

i got way too sidetracked

[waxen oyster]

I was more surprised the green pvp craft recipe sold for 50k.

The thing is just 7.5k honor on the vendor

[spice surge]

7.5k is quite a lot

[rotund oak]

yup prices are out of this world thats why ppl go mad about goldmaking

u loot a blue thing sells for 50k

[spice surge]

And people are way more concerned about spending their honor to get gear than to buy recipes

[slate crown]

to be fair prices have already dropped substantially

on everything

but season is coming up

[waxen oyster]

Basic mats have crashed already yes

[dim yacht]

it is a bit strange the recipe is still 50k, most of them arent. but they were really high before first reset because you couldnt get them with honor, and each recipe was essentially = 5 acuity

for first craft

[spice surge]

Pots and flasks are gonna remain expensive as hell

The r3 ones atleast

[waxen oyster]

it was 2 days ago but true

[dim yacht]

getting acuity early was very important for early gold making

[waxen oyster]

people with like 80 max characters due to remix

if they just got the profession bag during EA

[dim yacht]

lol yeah 8k per bag

[rotund oak]

and enchants

[dim yacht]

someone paid 250k for a r3 enchant on day 1

for wpvp

[spice surge]

Eh enchants arent that bad, theyre significantly cheaper than in dragonflight

Because you can concentrate

[rotund oak]

thats madness right there

[spice surge]

So even shitty enchanters can do 1 craft a day (or maybe like 0.8)

[waxen oyster]

wasnt r3 sophic in early s1 df like

over 100k

[dim yacht]

higher atm, but might go lower on season start? if youre tlaking crafting your own then yea, but to buy them youre looking at 20-30k depending on the enchant, vs 5-10k in dragonflight

weapon enchants benig the exception atm

[rotund oak]

yeah,but we dont know yet the extact price fo the raid enchants

[spice surge]

Compared to early df

Not fated

[drifting cloud]

it was yeah, first week for sure, maybe even 2nd reset

[waxen oyster]

I think early TWW has potential to crash sooner.

[dim yacht]

yeah i know what you meant, but yeah youre right i forgot its week 1 not week 2

[waxen oyster]

Since alt friendly expac so far

and concentration

[main blaze]

I also imagine that at the beginning of DF lots of people mismanaged knowledge points to help get to those rank 3s.

[dim yacht]

i keep thinking its week 2

[waxen oyster]

also remix some makers likely created

a horde of alts

for profession reasons

[spice surge]

Whereas for pots sure you can consentrate, but you'd made like 5 pots a day (barring multicrafts), which is nothing

Or you need to wait like 2 weeks until people have absolutely giga maxxed it because then they can guarantee it, with like 4 skill leftover

[dim yacht]

its already possible to make max rank anything without concentration, but you do need r3 mats

[spice surge]

Not pots

Nor flasks

[dim yacht]

let me check my alchemist

[slate crown]

if you look

[spice surge]

youre not gonna be even remotely close

[rotund oak]

u can proc rank 3 flasks from alchemy with spilover buff

[slate crown]

If you look at the alchemy tree, you have +skill points in so many places

and if they tune max rank accounting for that

you're going to be nowhere close

[spice surge]

I havent missed a single point of knowledge

[slate crown]

It's not like other specs

[spice surge]

And im like 70 points of

[slate crown]

main alc tree has 50/50 on the main wheel, and then each herb has a wheel

[rotund oak]

did u put them on flasks?

[slate crown]

then the alc/flask tree has its own set of points

[dim yacht]

ah yeah i see, you need way more knowledge for alchemy to do that

[slate crown]

it's crazy how many are needed

and the skill on recipes is like

900

[dim yacht]

yeah i see now

[slate crown]

compared to other profs where it's like 300

or 400

[dim yacht]

thats fucked lol

[balmy condor]

Jewel crafting isn’t great either tbf

[dim yacht]

meanwhile im just sitting here shitting out r3 enchants

[balmy condor]

You have to put points into base gemcutting, then into each color, and then into each sub-color

[rotund oak]

its gonna be very good with so many sockets

[spice surge]

And to guarantee the depths enchant r3

You need to be blood elf

[rotund oak]

idk what u were saying for flasks though

u can rly proc rank 3 flasks now

[slate crown]

to guarantee crushing skill, you don't have to be draenei, in fact if you try to save and be a draenei, if you don't have 3 pieces of equipment

you are at 299/300

infuriating

you have to get all 3 pieces of blue equipment to guarnatee it

[waxen oyster]

what does belf do for enchanting

[slate crown]

+5 skill

[spice surge]

Not the alchemical chaos one

[raven egret]

spent much time giving professions feedback during beta, but nothing was ever said back. I feel they are quite undercooked

[rotund oak]

yeah alchemical chaos are higher skill lvl u need 700+ my rogue proc'd and sold 5 rank 3 flasks already btw,was waiting for a ''u cant'' in the corner

[slate crown]

This is true, but next week I'll have a guaranteed craft available, on a single cut. That's not great, but alcs have many weeks ahead of them to guarantee max rank, it's still way more forgiving than the alchemy trees

[dim yacht]

ill bet you gold cap its possible without a blood elf

[spice surge]

Well ye with those +5 skill things

[grand trail]

LW is so chill already covering 3crafts

[rotund oak]

tailoring as well

[spice surge]

You cant guarantee them is what im saying

[grand trail]

and have another 10 points spare

fun part about JC that even maxed gems still gotta use like 190cons for rank 3 😄

[distant halo]

With deathstalker AOE opener, why are we skipping ambush?

[rotund oak]

yeah its impossible,ive got the higest flask skill lvl possible im jsut rank 2,u stack the spilover buff thaats the only way u can proc rank 3 and thats the only way for at least another week or two

and the ratio is something like 1 out of 8-10 flask craft

[spice surge]

But that one is soulbound

[slate crown]

you do not

[balmy condor]

Need to max the main wheel

[slate crown]

If you have 3 blue tools you can guarnatee the craft

yeah get that shit up

[grand trail]

i donthae blue tools tho

so yeah thats why

[distant halo]

I just finished watching your sin guide, thankyou for the amazing video. The only thing im missing now is how you are applying deathstaklers mark in combat without an ambush please

[balmy condor]

Capstone

Calzone

Mama Mia pizzeria

[distant halo]

Darkest night?

[balmy condor]

Yes sir

[distant halo]

Thats what im not understanding 😦

[balmy condor]

Read the last sentence

On darkest night

[distant halo]

dont you have to apply the mark once?

[balmy condor]

Yeah

[grand trail]

huh even when i add skill for tools and max the shit general

it still say 182cons

[balmy condor]

And then you consume it or target dies

And you get it back

[rotund oak]

🤤

[dim yacht]

is darkest night still bugged? when i was using it earlier in the week i found that sometimes i either didnt get the buff when a target with it died

[spice surge]

[distant halo]

thats why im confused, in your video maybe you were already in combat from already having a mark?

[dim yacht]

or it just didnt apply, i think it was me not getting the buff though

[slate crown]

grim

[distant halo]

i cannot apply mark later in combat if i didnt open with ambush previously?

[slate crown]

Honestly I would simply go BE in that case

[dim yacht]

like you said, add +5 with the license that costs...100g

[spice surge]

Ye im not doing the weapon enchants either way, but my guildie is

[slate crown]

Blue tool is also + 10, I already have the blue tool so I only did +11 for each of the others

[runic hinge]

just go engi and only have like half the nodes of every other prof

[balmy condor]

You need the first ambush and after that you’re good to go

[distant halo]

Thankyou! i assume this resets with being out of combat?

[dim yacht]

you add one of these and problem solved, no blood elf needed

[grand trail]

it say 38 missing skill wonder where

[raven egret]

'cept in City of Threads if your group takes their sweet time getting to the NPC that has to slowly wallk up XD

[balmy condor]

The capstone has a 30 second timer on it

[distant halo]

Thanks whispyr

[balmy condor]

Np

[dim yacht]

is darkness night still bugged whispyr

found i sometimes didnt the buff when a target with mark died

[balmy condor]

Nothing has been fixed

[dim yacht]

yikes

hard pass on deathstalker for me until that gets fixed at least

[jolly heath]

This week they will fix 4th charge CP, and 5th next week, 1 step at a time

[cobalt sphinx]

the latest sacbrood development

people leave so fast they don't even roll for it

[grand trail]

okay so im missing 22 skills from items and anotther 28 from level 😄

fuck that JC is my 4th proffesion anyway

[valid moss]

is it safe to craft embellishment for M+ only players, or subject is still to change? Writhing Armor Banding + Ascension I mean

[wooden flare]

how did you get 120 knowledge points already?

[grand trail]

You play game

[valid moss]

season is in 9 days, i thought its figured out already

[runic hinge]

theyve been tuning daily, you wanna rip that spark and have your embellish you spent 50k on get nerfed or not be bis go ahead

[rotund oak]

[runic hinge]

actual spider man meme

[flat sentinel]

Does the actual rank of the embellishment we buy matter or is it same stats?

[rotund oak]

think of it like this

if it didnt

why ranks exist

[flat sentinel]

It did matter in df

Didn’t”

[rotund oak]

still does fam

not for everything

but for most it did

[flat sentinel]

Yeah ok then so it does matter

[runic hinge]

does anything in life matter?

existential crisis time

[flat sentinel]

True only thing that matters is those fat 99/100 parses

[rotund oak]

if u read the embelishment/craft kit u will udnerstand if it does or not.Increased chances to proc/lower chances to backfire/malfunction

also rank 3 embelishments are quality upgrade for general gear crafting

requires less skill lvls to actually craft the gear

[flat sentinel]

Yeah I never usually read them just follow like a sheep

[calm nymph]

how do you get things like skardyns grace?

[rotund oak]

wait for cataclysm TW

[waxen oyster]

its almost like

you wait for the season to start

[spice surge]

You just play the dungeon where it drops once the season starts

[calm nymph]

haven't played wow in 8 years, ty

noted thanks

[rotund oak]

let me troll him man...

😅

[calm nymph]

gamers

[rotund oak]

ok ok im sorry

[waxen oyster]

well technically you're not wrong

if TW was out this early

[rotund oak]

im mean cmon man,its seasonal dungeon

[calm nymph]

wow armory?

[rotund oak]

what armory has to do with anything friend

seasonal dungeons are a rotation of dungeons for the entire season

which u get to beat and win rewads

[calm nymph]

cool why be passive aggressive about it

sounds eu

[rotund oak]

thus taking that tirnket

[rotund oak]

dont get me wrong but this question comes at least 20 tiems a day

[calm nymph]

cmonmanitsaseasonaldungeon

[rotund oak]

and yes im sry

[calm nymph]

dont care

[waxen oyster]

probably because seasonal dungeons are kind of a core feature

[calm nymph]

Not in pins or resources, imagine being annoyed at a question. Just ignore it next time if it bothers you this badly.

[waxen oyster]

What does that have to do with not reading base game stuff?

[calm nymph]

are you actually that daft

[rotund oak]

its eu stuff bruh

toxic if actual reading stuff

[calm nymph]

do you think people pick up a fucking wowpedia book and read about all the fundamentals of the game

how brainrotted are you

[waxen oyster]

people really be fixating on bis lists

While not reading the base game.

[rotund oak]

u dont have to read any entire wowpedia,its literally a page of information which u can read in 5min

[calm nymph]

link it

now

[rotund oak]

i dont link anything go read it urself

[calm nymph]

show me where this is easily accessible information

[rotund oak]

unless u cant even google it

[calm nymph]

yeah your brain about yay big ()

[rotund oak]

L take

[calm nymph]

how lonely do you have to be to pick random fights with someone asking a question that's about the "base" game

lmao

[calm nymph]

ur a goof

you said it

[rotund oak]

but whatever ignorance is a choice in 2024

[waxen oyster]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/the-war-within/dungeons-hub

War within dungeons

first result

[calm nymph]

so again, you want to me to go read about the dungeons on a wiki page

before playing the game

?

rather than ask a simple question as to how to get a trinket

[rotund oak]

did u really link that man the dungeon rotation

[median igloo]

per the pin, ascencion on dagger + patch is bis. can't really find any info on it, but what is patch?

[waxen oyster]

You bothered to find "bis list"

for preseason

[calm nymph]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/overview-pve-dps

almost like its in the actual guide

for assa rogue in TWW

[waxen oyster]

Yeah the point is

bothering to care

about bis in a preseason

[rotund oak]

called us brainrots btw

[calm nymph]

why does this make you angry

[calm nymph]

you are

[waxen oyster]

Thinking people are mad

the projectioj

[calm nymph]

mad enough to dive into a 10 minute arguement over a question

or lonely

idk

[waxen oyster]

i havent even looked at “bis” ever

just aware if any gear was egregiously op

[calm nymph]

didn't ask/don't care

[waxen oyster]

not oh shit this chest had haste instead of crit

[rotund oak]

u only ask for stuff that are out there for everyone,even linked through pins and hour-long guides out there

[calm nymph]

ESL?

[grave solar]

any kings got a good plater profile for assass? I'm sure i saw some when I was originally looking at tww guides but now I can't seem to find that again. Thanks!

[rotund oak]

calling ppl brainrots is not a good thing,but i guess being rude describes you

[calm nymph]

lots of yapping to say nothing and prove nothing

[waxen oyster]

you can use whispyr’s

[rotund oak]

Whispyr's plater is very very good

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[rotund oak]

its the last one

[grave solar]

ty legend

[grave solar]

tyvm!

[rotund oak]

u r welcome fam

[waxen oyster]

@rotund oak this fits again

Lowkey you’re better off farming wax to hoard for valorstone turnins than chasing 0.1% dps bis

[slate crown]

oh is that what I can turn wax in for?

I just have tons of it and never learned what it's for lmao

[waxen oyster]

after a certain amount of turned in you get a bag with profession mats

From what I recall its like 5 wax for 10 valorstones

[runic hinge]

yeah well I didn't like that guy when i was questing so im not going back to see him

seemed shady

[waxen oyster]

Hyper degen strat would probably be to hold a cap of valorstone via wax.

[spice surge]

I mean you just get valorstones by playing the game

[waxen oyster]

Yeah

im probably doing compstomp before its gone just to get elite mog week 1

since honor gear is relatively even field with people

[rotund oak]

huge VS gains and other stuff

can get tmog illusions and rng some other loots

[arctic socket]

775k sim high or low? St

[rotund oak]

[waxen oyster]

sap do you know if they released 2100 illusion for s1 on beta

[rotund oak]

cant remember fam,didnt rly check

did check the tier set and the 3 specs for shuffle thats all

as far as pvp goes

[waxen oyster]

Although not sure of later df seasons

df s1 week 1 at 2.1 you had actual players in shuffle

[rotund oak]

yeah

[waxen oyster]

not bots who die without walling

xdddd

[rotund oak]

i could ask though

[runic hinge]

i got 1800 week 1 s1 and im a bot

[waxen oyster]

yeah i mean

the recent trend of sl/df is blizz makes 1 good illusion per expac

[rotund oak]

i want glorious tyranny

[waxen oyster]

oh you’re not an og og

[rotund oak]

i was serving in the army man

couldnt play the game

[waxen oyster]

the most troll shit i saw

was have a friend that only played legion s1/2

so didnt get illusion

since it was later

[grim jay]

Back in my days.......

[waxen oyster]

i regret not pvping s2 df

that illusion is a banger

[grim jay]

Same

Didnt pvp in df at all

Tbf

[waxen oyster]

i got the s1 illusion

[rotund oak]

i did 2.3+ on mage ez

[waxen oyster]

but didnt even get the participation mount

thats how little i played

[rotund oak]

didnt even like anything from mage

did 2.1 on my hpally

first time healing

[waxen oyster]

i havent gotten the participation seasonal mount

[rotund oak]

DF pvp was fun

[grim jay]

Back when I pvped you had to break a leg to get 2.3

[waxen oyster]

since sl s3

[grim jay]

[rotund oak]

yeah,i was back then,breaking legs as well 😉

[grim jay]

I dont like the rating going up that high recently tbh

[rotund oak]

yeah there is inflation and pvp is taking a more casual turn

but its fun

more ppl play it

DF was a legit good xpansion for pvp

[grim jay]

Imo pvp is only fun if its competitive

[waxen oyster]

i just had no motivation in df man to do it

[grim jay]

Same like with League

[waxen oyster]

i got 2k in verdant in half honor gear

[grim jay]

I dont play normals

[waxen oyster]

then cba finishing enchant

[rotund oak]

i always enjoyed arena tbh,liked the rush and all coz ive practiced alot of mage/rogue

ild always try something on one of my rogues always

but not all seasons are succesful

[waxen oyster]

I dont enjoy that comp if mage isnt like

[rotund oak]

some have big mounts others not

[waxen oyster]

self sufficient

some mages can only play mlx and it shows

[rotund oak]

yup