#assassination
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His fingers are tired from outlawing
time just speeds up
Seen how respectful I was ?
very demure mr zac
If this message had been sent in outlaw channel
True. Give him back green name
I would have responded with 10 one liners
I've responded with 10 one liners to that earlier
That’s because outlaw

I cba anymore man
I propose a global ban of simulation craft
The life as the face of sin
We are now feelycrafters
why does the sim not do what my imagination told me it does
zac I simmed 3 min patchwerk for volcoross but I missed my simdps by 3%
GuyS IS RougE TOp iN rAid???
Skill issue whisp sorry can't do anything for you
I’ll review your log















killing myself
Sometimes you just have to accept defeat you know
in game
fair
yeah true
ofc the french guys says that
sometimes you just have to stare at your monitor and accept there's a 12 year old korean boy that's better than you

I thought he was a boomer now
big mistake to come here like that,i can nuke u know
do what whispyr does or else
🔪
what you finna do?
release my dog to bite ya
Call you old
me joining into my friends clash team as a fill and getting absolutely mauled by some dude with kanji in his name

wouldnt it have been Hangul if he was a 12 year old korean?
i hide your keys in a slightly incovinient spot
it wont make any real problems, but enough to make it annoying
no
they needed a top laner
and couldn't find anyone
so I filled
Oh. Thought it was. Saw some friends talking about it
electric lock, which is connected to my phone
so L bozo
Nasus or Kanye EZ
and then got paired against like a korean and 2 chinese
and they obliterated me
cause NA stinks
RIP in pepperinos
look at mr fancy tech there
and you're like oh it's gonna be like a darius or an illaoi or some bruiser top laner
and then they insta lock kennen or some shit
and you're like damn I'm fucking cooked
no mortal being instalocks kennen
I'm playing against some monster

that doesn't scare me too much
until you see how much ive played vayne
i only have like 6mil mastery points on her
Free lane
Ranged meta 
yeh free lane until you load into game and realize it's an emerald brand one trick
The first pick soma supp on ur own team is the scariest
Yk they have no hands
Sona *
Its free if ur jungler has hands and brain but yh emerald i doubt
does anyone know how bait and switch interacts with elusiveness?
had a lovely game against a Nasus mid in Grandmaster few days ago
was a very enjoyable experience
it doesn't interact, they just do their thing
They started to play that
Atleast eu
Koreans playing Nasus vs. Garen midlane 
Trist meta was 10x worse
Couldn’t even full clear without a trist jumping on ur raptors
Yh its c outranges u, can escape every gank, can split
word so it just contributes extra magic damage reduction
yes
I figured it would but just wanted to make sure thanks
How many more games do you have?
wdym
so the only way to get Deathstalkers Mark on a target is from stealth... so you can only get 3 marks / 6 marks if you use vanish?
!dn
Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?
- Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
Echoing Reprimand.... - Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
- Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
But the 3rd cp or something? - Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
Does Blizzard know? - There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.
Annie flash onetapping toplaners
best feeling universe
omg ty!
my irl friends
i obvisley didnt read Darkest night completely or didnt comprehind it lol
Oh.
are they really your friends
I thought it was like snow that got you to play
Season 2, ok unc
I got chicken pox in 6th grade and used my bedrest to grind my league level to unlock all the rune slots
:)
I mean clash, not who got you into league 😛
I miss old graves
im bringing back my heal/ignite jarvan top
based
@balmy condor do you know if using ur spark on pvp gear is okay for pve too?
Hello everyone! Is it me or it’s a pain in the a$$ to get daggers in HM ? 😦
should i text the support about the fucking er bug its so annoying
bug fixing her and there but not this
i miss my ex wife and my kids
rengo yumu's
no clue
Yeah, since you’re the only one that can get them. Makes it harder to get daggers.
yeah, you're the only one that's reported this bug
you're our only hope obi wan
go forth
im Boba Fet
more like boba fat
Hydra lw rengar >
gottem


Damn
Nah, I got one in my second HC dungeon run, so it's just you clearly
Hydra last whisper brutaliser riven 🥲🥲
Did like 25 HM only 1 and its not with the right stats
💀
got daggers in 2 runs lol, it was rough to get wrists from 1st boss lol
who gives a shit about the stats

just equip a dagger man
no gold for it
I wouldn't but sure yeah
i leveled and geared my Frost DK today and i gotta say
Rogue is really the lest annoying class to play if you played it for a little bit
but maybe
Won’t even matter in a couple of weeks because you’ll replace them.
I just crafted mh
Nerf dk coming next wed
crafting mainhand is fine
tx i forget
Nah i keep my money for best crafts after 911
however
It seems you've been away my friend.
This chat has been filled with people worried about their heroic dungeon stats since the heroic mode launched!
did u use crest on items?
Smh
Dunno im poor anyway
I am blind to the sins of man
the nerfs are NOT LESS damage
i think it was
Frost Strike damag 6% Decreased
and not ability deals 6% LESS dmg
Keep it that way
I used crests for my mainhand week 1 from a world quest, and then just crafted 590's this week
the rest is 580's
Can we talk about our class spamming fan of knives is really fucking lame
?
Decreased damage and not LESS
Mate
but im not sure
I'm currently like 583, is that good or bad sims guy?
579 here
i think 580 is perfect
Have you been farming HCs?
already overgeared
I'm 583 as well
no point going higher
Farming hard my head is burning doing thoses fan of knives
I used the small crests to craft stuff, didn't farm any fucking HC dungeon besides for doing specific quests in those dungens
All i want is ranked arenas
let him cook man idk what he's onto but he's cooking
has anyone seen wago app, did any1 try it?
Whispyr
What do you think about the Crunch Trinket ?
opener
played too much path of exile
fucked my head lol
Yeah Whispyr, what do you think about that trinket in his opener?
i mean about it in general

Wowie3.9%
so I don't care

Ngl when I asked my first question yesterday I thought you were hostile but I get it now
😹😹😹😹
I watched you answer the same question 100 times today
It gets furstrating
i believe that
The fact ur still answering is fair enough
you seem like an asshole and arogant but i have a friend who is exactly the same so i can deal with it

I'm getting pretty pissed about pre-raid bis questions and stuff I'm ngl
like it is
making me insanely mad
And yet he s still answering and updating faq / wowhead. He s everything but hostile
Is your friend an asshole and arrogant tho

people showing up and going "WOW LOOK OUTLAW SIMS HIGH REALLY GOOD GUESS THATS BETTER IN RAID M+ WHISPYR RIGHT SURELY?????????"
is not helping my mental state
I love when people talk about BIS lists
asshole yes
but not arrogant
cause I want to choke like 3 dozen people through my screen
but alas
they haven't invented the ability to do that yet
so all I get to do is scream
Yes but why does jpc not playing branch trinket wtf wtf is this à sim bait ?
They are safe for now

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
this Men helped me figur out a Strong opener so he is the G
xD
Can I get some?
Get in line buddy
Hey i have a real good question.. what are the best works to play as a rogue in ur opinon
I kinda stopped reading this chat like these last 3 days because 7 out of 10 questions were "sims??? Sims bis list pre raid???? You All toxic????"
the Mona Lisa, bro
for sure
He said 3 dozen at least one appointment can be mine
So I went to chill in Transmog
and then I dm JPC to make an announcement in his stream about branch, and he's like yeah man I got you, explains why he's not using branch, and THEN PEOPLE START LINKING ME CLIPS OF HIM ANSWERING AND THEY GO:
HEY WHISPYR, DO YOU THINK HES HIDING SECRET TECH AND JUST SAYING THERES NO SECRET TECH BECAUSE HE WANTS TO KEEP THE ADVANTAGE
actual fucking idiots

What trinket is branch?
People overthinking idk
pls magic8ball, show me the way
S3 trinket
was a season 3 thing
HEY WHISPYR, DO YOU THINK HES HIDING SECRET TECH AND JUST SAYING THERES NO SECRET TECH BECAUSE HE WANTS TO KEEP THE ADVANTAGE
HEY WHISPYR, DO YOU THINK HES HIDING SECRET TECH AND JUST SAYING THERES NO SECRET TECH BECAUSE HE WANTS TO KEEP THE ADVANTAGE
hahahahaha
this shit is maddening
HEY WHISPYR, DO YOU THINK HES HIDING SECRET TECH AND JUST SAYING THERES NO SECRET TECH BECAUSE HE WANTS TO KEEP THE ADVANTAGE
n'zoth and yogg'saron have got literally nothing on the whispers in my inbox
the old gods WISH they could be that delusional
Why don’t you turn DMs off 😹
Hey whispyr What s the haste breakpoint ?
If the secret tech was to use a 2 seasons old trinket id probably just neck rope now
cause the other half of my dm's are genuinely nice people looking for help
You don't need to be that nice to me
hey whispyr i saw you were void elf is that bis race
and I'd be quite a cocklicker if I'd turn off my dm's and ignore people looking for help because there's apes out there
there will always be apes

I will scream
sorry to ask this late but is fatebound single target spec in wowhead for raiding on par with deathstalker because i saw some logs that i forgot to post showing that they are doing around the same lvl dps idk the maths to it but if you could educate me it would be nice ty
Sometimes There is a weird dude in your DM asking you for 100% 6buffs uptime also

They should just delete rogue then we can all play the real stealth class
do you have a pre raid feet tier list?
Too late, bro
Havoc DH
Too late
are you streaming so i can see scream
fatebound and deathstalker very close in all content, if ER gets fixed deathstalker will be a bit ahead
no I'm at work
ty man

that does make me wonder
S) Xal'atath
A) Xal'atath
B) don't care
If you're brave enough
Hey king
I don't think my jaw unhinges that far
Average rogue enjoyer coming through
I really hope sin Will be thé go to prog spec. I dont want another sub prison
have you seen malfurion's grippers though

I'm kinda scared to try though cause what if I can fit it but then like I just have a lightbulb in my mouth
that I can't get out
You love sub wdym
prison?
Buddy it’s xallytoes season
just play what you want
this game is a prison
My gf on launch, when she saw her for the first time in that cinematic, yelled to everyone on discord " yoooo it's Xala'Tata!!!" And ever since that's been her name
I mean I wanna play the best thing and get à top100 world. Otherwise I would be pirate onetrick. But imagine progressing tindral as outlaw prenerf
XD
at your level it doesntt matter
She’s real for that
You're so real Quake
Yzr
okay but tere gotta be other stuff tehre
Wym
I played what I wanted on prog

survival hunter?
joke's on you buddy u outlaw coping with sin gaslighting
XDDDDDD
go learn how to play dust sub buddy
Sapz 😔
Although I'm going to be real
yo my love
I'd probably give myself aids playing outlaw on tindral.
i was vibing on assa piss chilling on diurna while you ran from one mob to another for vel to one shot the aoe mobs
Well you could argue those 3
i wans't in for diurna, dk bad
technically were more assa
boss damage enjoers
Sub Was weird cuz of thée shards
wasnt assa only relevant
The *
after the buff to frost shards
i may or may not
have gotten rank 4 unholy week 2
and swapped to sub on remnant
:))))
Yea and sub Went verygood after blood shards buff
SoD was the only tier since I started playing wow where I didn't play assa even a little bit
Deathstalker still better than fatebound for sin?
kyrian blood shards ST
unholy venthyr for pad
on farm
sub was already fine to begin with
with unholy shards
!wa
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Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater
yes ds probably better but bugfixes and tuning happen so often theres really no important answer to that question right now
just play fatebound because deathstalker is cancer in heroics
im pretty sure unholy shards were better
who cares
mythic week 2/3
Anyway i Was one of the last to get my socketed gear in a guild That Was clearing mythic super late

boomkin players trying to explain
why they cant do mechanics outside of their ravenous
I mute them all
id take a boomkin over outlaw any day of the week
My all blacklist is only boomkin
if i have the tism and want to do sidequests for renown should i do them on an alt i havent leveled
if you have the tism, does it really matter?
sapzilla is an outlaw player pretty sure
just do them when you want to on whatever character you’re on, it’ll be more enjoyable and you won’t have to sit staring at queues to pop later
yes
ive played more outlaw and rogue in general than half the outlaw channel combined
just sayin'
boomer

I fell for your discord avatar, gg
I'm late as fuck but I do believe that was a solid color choice and it looks great in game!
old
what are the fatebound optimizations? / where can i find them
or is it entirely passive
arent you the same age as me Rae?
1 year older
but im agreeing that sap is old
thanks it took me like an hour of ambush -> vanishing to drop aggro and a google hex color picker on stream the other day

you 1999?
97
sapzilla just seems to play whatever the streamers recommend is fotm
IM PROUD
thats very wrong
i can still press my rotation without my wrist flaring up
hows the back buddy?
Good!
@balmy condor does your wa work other 2 specs?
not as painful
that's the other sap
no guarantee but it should technically yeah
I'm getting back into wow and tbh your plater stuff is great, still having a me struggle buss getting dots up in big pulls but it's helped a ton. I fully appreciate your guides and your a-z guides. Hopefully I'll be top DPS one day lol


you'll get it
ok its works just need to add custom procs for other specs
yeah
If there's a list of things that like NEED to be supported for it to function I have no problem adding it
but at it's core it is basically just made for assa rogue
i wanna try your plater but the really nice part about cev's is that he also has his profile optimized for other dot based classes. and i dont play them a ton but i play them more than none so it's hard to lose that
I haven't specced sub in almost a full year
i could say now few things which could be added but its fine
currently im in outlaw
idk what that means
!WA
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Luxthos's 11.0 Group
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LE's Rogue Collection
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Whispyr's 11.0 Plater
its says that ur in blade flurry doesnt show if its up so u can use it for cp
rtb obv but its fine
oh I see
KiR builds use deft manuvers
He’s got stuff in there for feral and spriest
Feels comfy for them too
Never played a lock
i play aff cause my gf plays aff and i heal her in arenas so i like knowing how the spec functions every season
I switched to yours for rogue rn but I still use cevs for feral
Spriest I’m using publiks stuff
there's not a lot i'd need to add, i could probably figure it out by doing some script copy pasta. i very likely wouldnt cause a nuclear explosion doing that
if I just add a glow for blade flurry when it's ready is that fine
yh
just something to know its rdy
rolls like in afenars not possible to make?
nah nvm
dont waste ur time on doggo spec
but if u do it also on adrenaline rush the same
This is what I do in mine
for both bf and ar
I know, I'm just saying I think that's a fine solution
to put the glow on bf when it's ready to use
and I'm not using afenar
I can copy it
is afenars updated for 11.0
last I checked it wasn't
nah
aight
ngl outlaw kinda fun
but I haven't pressed KIR once
I also have no clue what I'm doing
and I don't like ghostly strike either
u spam bte basically
How high is your main gauche with your sin gear? 
uhhh
Who has secondary stats
I was just kinda hitting dummies for 8ish min
is this based
I have no clue what I'm looking at
yeh but that's single target right
Yea
I'm hitting 5t dummies
Whispyr having a fever dream playing outlaw
who hurt you?
Feels strange not seeing Sinister Strike
idk I'm just fixing wa
nice
I didn't see any rolls ever
is that something that needs to be tracked
I just kinda hit it when the timer got low
u just need to go to rogue dynamic
check and uncheck class and spec
in load section
that sounds like not a great solution
better ways to do it, like removing the talent check makes me see rolls again
is there reroll logic
or bad rolls
Assassination ST similar to outlaws/sub? Or is one of the 3 specs just superior in ST?
yeye i meant that
sorry mb read wrong
outlaw is playable with ur wa
yeh just trying to make it better
Yeah there's reroll logic, I worked with kieron to make a WA reroller but honestly it just gets cumbersome cause it changes every season and I think it's just best to look at the buffs and make the decision based on what buffs you have
It typically is "always reroll with 1 buff except X buff, which is strong enough to hold onto it alone" and X has changed season by season
right now it's true bearing
I think t least
aight that's stinky fuck that
idk just for hero talents for other specs
we should hire professionals
I just literally put zac's WA into mine and credit him
for rtb
it has nice indicators for if they came from KiR or CtO
which can come into play whe nplaying KiR
and I didn't feel like remaking it whole
i havent seen any rule like that for this season!
maybe it changed 
another arguement for my point 😛
that I wouldn't want to bake it into a WA
aight I'll just add the glows and then add trickster nonsense whatever and call it a day
So the guide says use mutilate to spread caustic spatter and also to use fok for combo points and spreading bleed. So which should I be doing I’m confused because should I just not be mutiliating every mob for caustic instead of fok?
!wa
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I see now it's "roll with 1 buff if you have Loaded Dice" but also looks like KiR has more complicated rules
You don't use Mutilate to "spread" Caustic Spatter, you use it to activate Caustic Spatter on a specific mob
if u rly want to make it for outlaw i would switch vanish and gs spot cause vanish is like kingsbane and mark for us xd
caustic can only be on 1 mob
so you Mutilate every 10 seconds, and in-between that, you use FoK to get combo points
yeah that's easy enough
any op dungeon trinkets to grab

Question: DO we only open with ambush and use the rest of our vanish to empower garrote?
there's like 5 or 6 that are good just dorptimizer and pick one idk
that's a bit of a vague question, you want to ambush to apply the deathstalker mark, and then in aoe you're garrote/rupture to spread them
in single target you ambush garrote once
cause no need to garrote more than once
I haven't made sin gear this expac yet so I can't even droptimizer sim
I was wondering more ST. Like when we vanish do we use ambush for another deathstalker mark or do we garrote for empowered garrote
but I'm expecting sin to be good
all marks after the first are applied by envenom
!pandemic
Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
anyone know the icon code for crimson tempest, my friend went ahead and lost it
or an easier way to find it over checking the files
wowhead
nice, didn't think they'd have that on there
is there a world where i would not press anything and save energy?
ex: mutilate -> blindside ambush -> envenom -> blindside ambush -> blindside ambush. Do i wait until 1 second left on envenom to press or send it?
much appreciated, i'll have to remember that
you wait unless you're in cooldowns
ok cool ty. this situation came up when i was hitting a dummy and i thought it was a waste to immediately use. but also faster deathstalker proc cycling so i wasn't sure
Sin rogue ez to play and low apm ?
according to sims it's possible to reach 16
People are going to be sitting on turnips between bosses to farm high stacks
for that extra .00!~% dmaage
how do you develop stacks exactly
0.001%
i dont really know how it works
ah
then if you stocp attacking the stacks build up on your character
until you attack a new target
so you can save a bunch of damage stacks
export on WoWhead for talents does not work btw
Nice sac 
literal sac pics
I just tried both and they work fine
might be cause WoWhead is freezing
lowkey this bee trinket is kinda fun

go zoom
doesnt the first tick crit
I guess you could macro it to CT
what
no
regardless though we play inevitability
so it only triggers off envenoms anyway
It could make the first tick of Kb crit
that's not a tick that's an instant hit
that works
cause instant hits are affected by cold blood
I am at 43 so far
either way I should probably tell daddy bliz that this is exploitable
maybe
when playing fatebound, on what spell u want cold blood? envenom ?
inevitability forces it on envenom regardless
do we FOK ST as deadstalker?
alright thanks
oh no
it doesn't give the agi
jsut the damage
I see
yeah
over all of those 101 stacks the most I got up to was 9 stacks of the sgi
agi*
it's still over 6mill nature damage
Dumb question but does garrote / rupture spread to mobs that don’t currently have the dot if you’re pumping them into the deathstalker target in AoE?
carnage smart targets
the targetting itself is a bit nebulous
but it will prioritize nearby enemies missing the dot
and if it can't find any, it'll reapply to random ones that do
it seems like the stacks don't apply above 6 and they don't apply very quickly so though it would be huge for a real parse lord, it probably won't be breaking anything
What addon/wa are you using for smart target or how? Cause sometimes I saw that next target is a target with dots
what
carnage smart targets
the talent itself
you the player need to swap targets still
Yeah I mean during the opener when I have 6 sec buff after stealth disappear I using garrote garrote rupture rupture garrote rupture, but when I switching targets with tab usually it changes for the target with garrote/rupture already even if not mobs are with this dots
Is it possible to fix somehow or need to fix it by myself (mouse over macro etc)
no you're misunderstanding, it's the additional rupture casts that smart target
if it helps you to understand most aoe healing from healers do the same thing based on hp, like chain heal from shaman
would need a mouseover
you're trolling playing a dot class with no mouseover
Real heads don’t use mouseover macros, they set all casts to mouseover by default 
that is psychotic behavior
I had 26 in raid testing
How much of a dps loss is it to just spam more garrotes and ruptures into 1 target to spread em
23.4%

depends on how many targets there are
23.4% is a crazy number to just throw out
it's not too big of a loss
i actually used my calculator to work it out
your calculator is broken I think
all of gar and rupture combined don't add up to 23.4%

careful whispyr remember what happened the last time you did pre-school math /s
I was expecting like, 'not much' or 'large loss', hah
Considering it means you can shut your brain off and just vibe by doing so I’d say it’s about a 34.73 increase to do so.
Dps. 34 dps
yeh I mean like if you have 10 targets, you'd lose 1 rupture and 3 garrotes
if you have 5 targets switching is literally just a waste of effort
what if it's 12 targets
then you would lose 1 rup 3 gar
That's when it's 23.4%
yeah, maybe even 234%
so how many mobs we wanna maintain rup / gar on?
you want to maintain 5 ruptures for scent and garrote on your main target
How do you get Skardyn trinket ?
grim batol
isn't it cata ?
it is
we can upgrade to current ilvl?
#talent
When is court of stars coming back, i want to farm a ring
definitely a noob question. once the first set of garrotes and ruptures (which i placed while engaging from stealth) expire or about to expire, do I need to manually add rupture and garrotes to all the mobs again? suppose there is a pack of 5 mobs.
^
so i prioritize just getting the rupture on 5 atrgets and ignore the garrote dot apart from the main one?
ty
manually spreading non-stealth garrotes is kinda inefficient yeh
you'd only really do it if you're desperate for energy at the start of a pull or somethign
appreciate it. ❤️
np
crimson tempest is only for aoe dot and we just pump envenom in the primary target and depend on caustic spatter for aoe damage?
yeah
yep
crimson tempest seems to be the highest prio in aoe
crimson tempest does no instant damage
so no reason to spam it
you just maintain it (it cranks)
and that + the other bleeds carry your energy and like half your damage
the rest is caustic and everything else
Hey guys, I haven't played assass in years, is there a video you reccomend that I can watch to get a refresher
My mouth is dry as hell man this took 4 hours I am too ADHD for this youtube thing
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Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
Ravenholdt Disco...
here is a quick vid if all you want is refresher like you said
QUICK Guide for DPS as a Assassination Rogue for both PvE. This both covers M+ & Raiding environments & the hero talents involved in the war within.
Talents
Raid - CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMjZmhZmxyMAAAAAAMbwyMAAAAAA022MzwDMzYMzMLz2YMGMzMzMzYmNbjZA2MLDMglglhJwwCA
M+ - CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMjZmZGmxyMAAAAAAMbw2MAAAAAA022MzwDMzYMzMLzyYMYmZ...
!pooling
Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom
- For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
- For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.
The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.
btw from what I understand of this logic is that with deathstalker you should stay below 50%, but keep enough energy to be able to cast
so are you sort of like micro pooling between 0 and 150 energy
ty
np fam
!wa
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Hows everyone finding the current dungeons (granted theyre on HC) with the chain pulling and trying to get mark on something. Should DN carry it on? Suppose it'll get easier in m+ when things don't die so instantly
Additionally, does echoing reprimand work with darkest night?
Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?
- Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
Echoing Reprimand.... - Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
- Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
But the 3rd cp or something? - Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
Does Blizzard know? - There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.
Playing fatebound in heroic so I don’t have to juggle marks on targets that die in .2 seconds
L + Ratio + Ur bald + bozo
Okay that’s all true but you didn’t have to say it
Is there sim for assa rogue correct? I saw it is lowest from all of rogue specs
but never fully tried to figure it out
Do you know how to play assassination?
Yes
yes
Sims are just numbers
They don’t indicate balance
Man that should really be another chat command
Ffs I hate 11.0
You don’t need to even track anything
ez pz
You can track coins but its basically just dopamine
i love me some dopamine
Rotationally you finish on 5 and gg fatebound
i use your afener edit so its probably in there anyways
Yeah I track coins for dopamine
I went back and forth on it for a while
The Uber sweaty gamer in me would say that coins are visual noise and unnecessary
But the for fun gamer in me won that debate
True
So all of 3specs, currently assa is best for m+ and raids? Correct?
they're not even out yet lol
Assa feels so damn good. Last time I enjoyed it was in BFA. Thankyou blizz
I would say assa is definitely the spec I’m gonna play in raid so it’s definitely the best in raid
I agree with Mr. Nugz
Seems to be the idea atm with sub being close
yeah I'm a big fan of rogue being a two spec class
Hello, i'v a question. Deathmark say you can cumulate x2 Garrote and Rupture. But when I sim with raidbot for the opti opening, they don't cast it just after the Deathmark to make the bleed Garrotte and Rupture x2, did I miss something ?
im currently at 577 ilvl with random ass heroic gear, i will upgrade some of them later without pressure but please tell me i don't need to sweat getting any bis at this point of the exp
Ahhh ok thanks @tender bear
You 100% don’t need to go get bis
We don’t even have pre-raid bis
Because that’s cringe
And a waste of time
sooo just get to 577 and level an alt?
I'd personally recommend between 580 to 585
If you wanna really go for it you can upgrade to 580 cause its just flight stones and then craft 590 gear
But yeah 577 is totally fine
Don’t even need that much tbh
i mean i got 3 daggers in my first 3 dungeons and a trinket on the fourth
so now its just mix and match for the rest
yeah realistically being like 570 gets you into m0s comfortably
can't wait to send the bee trinket in m0s btw
i started reading about crafting gear and for me any my very small mop brain
it's too much lmao
just to clairify, when spreading bleeds out of stealth, does carnage prio mobs without the bleed on them over a mob that is positionally closer? I know when i played sub i have to be very careful about my positioning when rupturing
is there even a point in crafting gear though?
yes carnage smart targets
Yes
since embellish shit can change?
ty ❤️
You don’t have to embellish
crafting 590 is non embellishment
from what i understand crafting gear is way to get 590 gear quite fast if you want
but dont need it
Can also recraft at any point and just change embellish
just an extra optimization if you have ~50k burning a hole in your pocket
!fuu
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recraft? as in swap materials on an item to another?
no way they implemented that lol
No as in just put a recraft order in
Once the item is crafted you can just craft it again at a lower cost to change embellishments
need to read up on professions, i just jumped on the poor expansion train with no prep
I will probably make some 590s but thats because i have 2.7m
and raid tuesday+work late
590s are giga cheap rn it should only take like 10k to make
Infinite
ok whats teh catch
just money?
30 weathered
You don’t have crests atm
ah ok
the crests then
crests are those with a limit for a season right?
i fucked up in the past spending a lot early on and limiting myself later
With the cap increase next week you should be able to craft….. uhhh
7 pieces?
Maybe 8
Yeah 8 needs all the one time crests I think
As someone who last played in mop is there some sort of guide for crafting?
quests dont give rep till the final one fo the cain
chain
and i dont know of a rep farm spot
wait im confused
you never have to open them
each delve gives rep
oh you mean pruple ones give rep?
and if u dont open chest u can redo them?
you def shouldnt be opening chests if you care about gear
O boy I opened a can of worms
i used 2 keys on purple delves 😛 before i found out i should not have
I think my highest renown in Dragonflight was a 12

is it that bad?
dont gotta do all that other stuff to get your crests
Is what bad
It fucks you out of 2 pieces of heroic raid gear I think
That’s cause you used them in a 3
You can get rep from using your bountiful keys
But obviously people are holding on main
do coffer keys have a seasonal cap
The reason to hold keys is because you can use them on a higher level delve
And get decently good loot
But they’re capped at 3 atm
So it sucks
Yeah you hold keys for better loot later on
So you do bountiful delves on an alt for the rep
imma go fuck myself
you got more to get
I don’t think so, but they’re just timegated themselves I think
Cause warbands
how many coffer keys are there total rn
7
But also you're probably going to do the bountiful delves anyways on your main for the rep
From what
i thought max was 6
I think i havent done the hallowfall special assignment
is that from the parts you can put together?








