#assassination

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runic hinge
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Based

pliant remnant
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His fingers are tired from outlawing

balmy condor
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time just speeds up

midnight mist
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Seen how respectful I was ?

balmy condor
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very demure mr zac

midnight mist
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If this message had been sent in outlaw channel

runic hinge
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True. Give him back green name

midnight mist
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I would have responded with 10 one liners

balmy condor
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I've responded with 10 one liners to that earlier

shy pecan
balmy condor
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had the same question and I just went "be like that"

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x15

midnight mist
balmy condor
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I cba anymore man

midnight mist
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I propose a global ban of simulation craft

shy pecan
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The life as the face of sin

midnight mist
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We are now feelycrafters

balmy condor
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why does the sim not do what my imagination told me it does

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zac I simmed 3 min patchwerk for volcoross but I missed my simdps by 3%

fickle girder
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GuyS IS RougE TOp iN rAid???

balmy condor
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can you log review me

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and tell me what I did wrong

midnight mist
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Skill issue whisp sorry can't do anything for you

shy pecan
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I’ll review your log

balmy condor
earnest remnant
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does that count?

balmy condor
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killing myself

midnight mist
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Sometimes you just have to accept defeat you know

balmy condor
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in game

earnest remnant
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fair

balmy condor
royal lantern
balmy condor
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sometimes you just have to stare at your monitor and accept there's a 12 year old korean boy that's better than you

runic hinge
rotund oak
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do what whispyr does or else

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🔪

earnest remnant
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what you finna do?

rotund oak
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release my dog to bite ya

shy pecan
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Call you old

earnest remnant
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dogs love me

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so imma steal yo dog

balmy condor
shy pecan
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RIP

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It’s ARAM clash right?

earnest remnant
royal lantern
balmy condor
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they needed a top laner

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and couldn't find anyone

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so I filled

shy pecan
earnest remnant
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so L bozo

shy pecan
balmy condor
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and then got paired against like a korean and 2 chinese

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and they obliterated me

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cause NA stinks

shy pecan
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RIP in pepperinos

balmy condor
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you just already know in champ select

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you see their team

royal lantern
balmy condor
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and you're like oh it's gonna be like a darius or an illaoi or some bruiser top laner

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and then they insta lock kennen or some shit

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and you're like damn I'm fucking cooked

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no mortal being instalocks kennen

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I'm playing against some monster

shy pecan
earnest remnant
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id isntalock vayne top against you

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with ghost TP

balmy condor
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that doesn't scare me too much

earnest remnant
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until you see how much ive played vayne

balmy condor
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it's the like exhaust/ignite brand top laners

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those are the guys that scare me

earnest remnant
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i only have like 6mil mastery points on her

modest gale
shy pecan
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Ranged meta dead

balmy condor
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yeh free lane until you load into game and realize it's an emerald brand one trick

sweet dust
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The first pick soma supp on ur own team is the scariest

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Yk they have no hands

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Sona *

modest gale
stiff nest
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does anyone know how bait and switch interacts with elusiveness?

earnest remnant
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had a lovely game against a Nasus mid in Grandmaster few days ago

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was a very enjoyable experience

balmy condor
modest gale
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They started to play that

balmy condor
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elusiveness is -20% all damage

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bait and switch is -20% magic

modest gale
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Atleast eu

shy pecan
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Koreans playing Nasus vs. Garen midlane Smile

sweet dust
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Trist meta was 10x worse

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Couldn’t even full clear without a trist jumping on ur raptors

modest gale
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Yh its c outranges u, can escape every gank, can split

stiff nest
balmy condor
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yes

stiff nest
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I figured it would but just wanted to make sure thanks

shy pecan
balmy condor
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wdym

night shadow
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so the only way to get Deathstalkers Mark on a target is from stealth... so you can only get 3 marks / 6 marks if you use vanish?

prisma monolithBOT
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Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

  • Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
    Echoing Reprimand....
  • Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
  • Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
    But the 3rd cp or something?
  • Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
    Does Blizzard know?
  • There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.
shy pecan
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And who tricked you into playing clash

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Oh. I thought was still going

rotund oak
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best feeling universe

night shadow
balmy condor
night shadow
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i obvisley didnt read Darkest night completely or didnt comprehind it lol

shy pecan
royal lantern
shy pecan
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I thought it was like snow that got you to play

balmy condor
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nah

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I've been playing league since like season 2

sweet dust
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Season 2, ok unc

balmy condor
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I got chicken pox in 6th grade and used my bedrest to grind my league level to unlock all the rune slots

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:)

shy pecan
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I mean clash, not who got you into league 😛

balmy condor
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what

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clash is league

sweet dust
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I miss old graves

shy pecan
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I mean the event

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Nvm

storm forum
balmy condor
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based

sweet dust
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@balmy condor do you know if using ur spark on pvp gear is okay for pve too?

sly hollow
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Hello everyone! Is it me or it’s a pain in the a$$ to get daggers in HM ? 😦

woven shore
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should i text the support about the fucking er bug its so annoying

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bug fixing her and there but not this

modest gale
rotund oak
shy pecan
balmy condor
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you're our only hope obi wan

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go forth

woven shore
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im Boba Fet

balmy condor
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more like boba fat

sweet dust
balmy condor
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gottem

woven shore
balmy condor
shy pecan
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Damn

pliant remnant
sweet dust
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Hydra last whisper brutaliser riven 🥲🥲

sly hollow
balmy condor
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💀

modest gale
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got daggers in 2 runs lol, it was rough to get wrists from 1st boss lol

balmy condor
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who gives a shit about the stats

pliant remnant
balmy condor
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just equip a dagger man

pliant remnant
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And craft the other one.

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ez pz

modest gale
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no gold for it

balmy condor
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I wouldn't but sure yeah

woven shore
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i leveled and geared my Frost DK today and i gotta say
Rogue is really the lest annoying class to play if you played it for a little bit

rotund oak
shy pecan
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Won’t even matter in a couple of weeks because you’ll replace them.

sweet dust
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I just crafted mh

balmy condor
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crafting mainhand is fine

woven shore
sly hollow
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Nah i keep my money for best crafts after 911

woven shore
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however

pliant remnant
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after WHAT

normal mist
modest gale
normal mist
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Smh

sly hollow
balmy condor
woven shore
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the nerfs are NOT LESS damage
i think it was
Frost Strike damag 6% Decreased

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and not ability deals 6% LESS dmg

normal mist
balmy condor
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the rest is 580's

sly hollow
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Can we talk about our class spamming fan of knives is really fucking lame

balmy condor
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I'm already overgeared for m0

woven shore
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Decreased damage and not LESS

pliant remnant
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Mate

woven shore
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but im not sure

normal mist
woven shore
normal mist
modest gale
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im like 580 didnt spend any crests

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and no craft

balmy condor
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I'm 583 as well

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no point going higher

sly hollow
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Farming hard my head is burning doing thoses fan of knives

normal mist
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I used the small crests to craft stuff, didn't farm any fucking HC dungeon besides for doing specific quests in those dungens

sly hollow
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All i want is ranked arenas

balmy condor
modest gale
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has anyone seen wago app, did any1 try it?

balmy condor
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yeh been out for a couple years

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it's aight

woven shore
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Whispyr
What do you think about the Crunch Trinket ?
opener

woven shore
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fucked my head lol

pliant remnant
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Yeah Whispyr, what do you think about that trinket in his opener?

balmy condor
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sure man looks great

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idk

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what the fuck am I supposed to say

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wowie 3.9%

woven shore
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i mean about it in general

pliant remnant
balmy condor
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idk what trinket that is

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it's not a season 1 trinket

sonic schooner
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Wowie3.9%

balmy condor
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so I don't care

sonic schooner
sweet dust
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Ngl when I asked my first question yesterday I thought you were hostile but I get it now

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😹😹😹😹

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I watched you answer the same question 100 times today

balmy condor
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I'm just like this

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It's not a personal thing

bronze pike
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It gets furstrating

woven shore
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i believe that

sweet dust
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The fact ur still answering is fair enough

woven shore
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you seem like an asshole and arogant but i have a friend who is exactly the same so i can deal with it

balmy condor
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I'm getting pretty pissed about pre-raid bis questions and stuff I'm ngl

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like it is

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making me insanely mad

sonic schooner
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And yet he s still answering and updating faq / wowhead. He s everything but hostile

normal mist
sonic schooner
balmy condor
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people showing up and going "WOW LOOK OUTLAW SIMS HIGH REALLY GOOD GUESS THATS BETTER IN RAID M+ WHISPYR RIGHT SURELY?????????"

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is not helping my mental state

shy pecan
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I love when people talk about BIS lists

woven shore
balmy condor
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cause I want to choke like 3 dozen people through my screen

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but alas

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they haven't invented the ability to do that yet

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so all I get to do is scream

sonic schooner
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Yes but why does jpc not playing branch trinket wtf wtf is this à sim bait ?

normal mist
sonic schooner
woven shore
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this Men helped me figur out a Strong opener so he is the GSurebud

sonic schooner
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xD

runic hinge
novel star
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im sayin

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imma have to start talking about outlaw

spice spire
sly hollow
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Hey i have a real good question.. what are the best works to play as a rogue in ur opinon

sonic schooner
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Tiltingwhispyr any% speedrun

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I won

plain flower
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I hear outlaw is doing well thoughts @balmy condor (i like getting choked)

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?

normal mist
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I kinda stopped reading this chat like these last 3 days because 7 out of 10 questions were "sims??? Sims bis list pre raid???? You All toxic????"

pliant remnant
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for sure

runic hinge
normal mist
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So I went to chill in Transmog

balmy condor
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and then I dm JPC to make an announcement in his stream about branch, and he's like yeah man I got you, explains why he's not using branch, and THEN PEOPLE START LINKING ME CLIPS OF HIM ANSWERING AND THEY GO:

HEY WHISPYR, DO YOU THINK HES HIDING SECRET TECH AND JUST SAYING THERES NO SECRET TECH BECAUSE HE WANTS TO KEEP THE ADVANTAGE

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actual fucking idiots

shy pecan
pliant remnant
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Guys, how much haste do I need exactly for HC dungeons?

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Serious answers only.

plain flower
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What trinket is branch?

sonic schooner
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People overthinking idk

wicked lynx
sonic schooner
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S3 trinket

balmy condor
spice spire
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HEY WHISPYR, DO YOU THINK HES HIDING SECRET TECH AND JUST SAYING THERES NO SECRET TECH BECAUSE HE WANTS TO KEEP THE ADVANTAGE

sonic schooner
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HEY WHISPYR, DO YOU THINK HES HIDING SECRET TECH AND JUST SAYING THERES NO SECRET TECH BECAUSE HE WANTS TO KEEP THE ADVANTAGE

woven shore
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hahahahaha

balmy condor
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this shit is maddening

pliant remnant
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HEY WHISPYR, DO YOU THINK HES HIDING SECRET TECH AND JUST SAYING THERES NO SECRET TECH BECAUSE HE WANTS TO KEEP THE ADVANTAGE

balmy condor
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n'zoth and yogg'saron have got literally nothing on the whispers in my inbox

slate crown
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secret tech is a sub move

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not assa

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get outta here

balmy condor
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the old gods WISH they could be that delusional

sweet dust
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Why don’t you turn DMs off 😹

sonic schooner
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Hey whispyr What s the haste breakpoint ?

plain flower
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If the secret tech was to use a 2 seasons old trinket id probably just neck rope now

balmy condor
pliant remnant
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hey whispyr, what daggers are you using mang?

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where'd you get 'em?

normal mist
fiery mauve
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hey whispyr i saw you were void elf is that bis race

balmy condor
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and I'd be quite a cocklicker if I'd turn off my dm's and ignore people looking for help because there's apes out there

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there will always be apes

pliant remnant
balmy condor
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but as long as I'm helping the decent people

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I'll be aight

balmy condor
supple cloud
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sorry to ask this late but is fatebound single target spec in wowhead for raiding on par with deathstalker because i saw some logs that i forgot to post showing that they are doing around the same lvl dps idk the maths to it but if you could educate me it would be nice ty

sonic schooner
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Sometimes There is a weird dude in your DM asking you for 100% 6buffs uptime also

plain flower
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They should just delete rogue then we can all play the real stealth class

silk bane
plain flower
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Havoc DH

pliant remnant
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Too late

fiery mauve
balmy condor
balmy condor
supple cloud
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ty man

fiery mauve
balmy condor
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that does make me wonder

pliant remnant
balmy condor
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if I can fit the head of a bowling pin in my mouth

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probably not

normal mist
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If you're brave enough

spice spire
balmy condor
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I don't think my jaw unhinges that far

plain flower
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Average rogue enjoyer coming through

sonic schooner
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I really hope sin Will be thé go to prog spec. I dont want another sub prison

iron valve
pliant remnant
balmy condor
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I'm kinda scared to try though cause what if I can fit it but then like I just have a lightbulb in my mouth

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that I can't get out

spice spire
shy dust
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just play what you want

balmy condor
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this game is a prison

pliant remnant
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whispyr thinks game is prison

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plays rogue

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ergo rogue bad???

normal mist
sonic schooner
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I mean I wanna play the best thing and get à top100 world. Otherwise I would be pirate onetrick. But imagine progressing tindral as outlaw prenerf

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XD

shy dust
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at your level it doesntt matter

shy dust
spice spire
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Thanks babe

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You enjoying the war within

shy dust
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Yzr

silk bane
spice spire
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Love to see the return of the king

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Need Vel in here

shy dust
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I played what I wanted on prog

elfin patio
waxen oyster
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survival hunter?

rotund oak
waxen oyster
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XDDDDDD

shy dust
sonic schooner
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Sapz 😔

waxen oyster
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Although I'm going to be real

rotund oak
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yo my love

waxen oyster
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I'd probably give myself aids playing outlaw on tindral.

shy dust
waxen oyster
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due to how the spec works

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is not conducive to tindral flying

sonic schooner
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One of my favorite prog Was assa in SoD

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Chill rotation

waxen oyster
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I only played sin in sod

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for the first 3

shy dust
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Didn't sub just outclass

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it for all of early prog

waxen oyster
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Well you could argue those 3

elfin patio
waxen oyster
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technically were more assa

shy dust
sonic schooner
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Sub Was weird cuz of thée shards

shy dust
sonic schooner
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The *

shy dust
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after the buff to frost shards

waxen oyster
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i may or may not

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have gotten rank 4 unholy week 2

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and swapped to sub on remnant

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:))))

sonic schooner
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Yea and sub Went verygood after blood shards buff

balmy condor
waxen oyster
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i think i was also on cd

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from swapping necrolrod

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idr anymore

mystic osprey
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Deathstalker still better than fatebound for sin?

balmy condor
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just sim it

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I'm so tired

waxen oyster
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unholy venthyr for pad

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on farm

shy dust
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with unholy shards

shell lodge
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!wa

novel star
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yes ds probably better but bugfixes and tuning happen so often theres really no important answer to that question right now

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just play fatebound because deathstalker is cancer in heroics

waxen oyster
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im pretty sure unholy shards were better

novel star
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who cares

waxen oyster
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mythic week 2/3

sonic schooner
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Anyway i Was one of the last to get my socketed gear in a guild That Was clearing mythic super late

fiery mauve
sonic schooner
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Uh shards were brooooooken

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On boomkin i remember

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Proccing during venthyr

waxen oyster
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boomkin players trying to explain

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why they cant do mechanics outside of their ravenous

sonic schooner
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LMAO

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I REMEMBER THAT

rotund oak
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how u handle boomkins

sonic schooner
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I mute them all

earnest remnant
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id take a boomkin over outlaw any day of the week

waxen oyster
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mythic painsmith

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death metric by class

sonic schooner
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My all blacklist is only boomkin

sonic schooner
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Stealthi imma

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Nothing

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U raccoon

waxen oyster
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if i have the tism and want to do sidequests for renown should i do them on an alt i havent leveled

pliant remnant
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if you have the tism, does it really matter?

earnest remnant
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outlaws are like a rat infestation

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get rid

sonic schooner
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Wtfwtf

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U jealous cuz u also want guns

blazing pumice
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sapzilla is an outlaw player pretty sure

sonic schooner
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He is

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I actually dont know

strange python
shy dust
rotund oak
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just sayin'

earnest remnant
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boomer

rotund oak
iron valve
sudden torrent
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I'm late as fuck but I do believe that was a solid color choice and it looks great in game!

shy dust
proud salmon
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what are the fatebound optimizations? / where can i find them

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or is it entirely passive

earnest remnant
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arent you the same age as me Rae?

shy dust
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but im agreeing that sap is old

balmy condor
earnest remnant
shy dust
blazing pumice
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sapzilla just seems to play whatever the streamers recommend is fotm

earnest remnant
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HAHA

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boomer

shy dust
shy dust
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i can still press my rotation without my wrist flaring up

earnest remnant
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hows the back buddy?

shy dust
modest gale
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@balmy condor does your wa work other 2 specs?

shy dust
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not as painful

balmy condor
rotund oak
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there's another sap?

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there can only be one sap

sudden torrent
rotund oak
modest gale
balmy condor
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yeah

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If there's a list of things that like NEED to be supported for it to function I have no problem adding it

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but at it's core it is basically just made for assa rogue

past forum
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i wanna try your plater but the really nice part about cev's is that he also has his profile optimized for other dot based classes. and i dont play them a ton but i play them more than none so it's hard to lose that

balmy condor
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I haven't specced sub in almost a full year

modest gale
balmy condor
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and I haven't specced outlaw in like 5 years

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yeh sure

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I can note it down

modest gale
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currently im in outlaw

steep ginkgo
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!WA

modest gale
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its says that ur in blade flurry doesnt show if its up so u can use it for cp

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rtb obv but its fine

modest gale
balmy condor
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yeah

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hm

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okay

modest gale
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and on afenars it showed on top rolls

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but yh not a big deal

runic hinge
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Feels comfy for them too

past forum
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ya what mr nugz said

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and aff too

runic hinge
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Never played a lock

past forum
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i play aff cause my gf plays aff and i heal her in arenas so i like knowing how the spec functions every season

balmy condor
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I see

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yeah that's probably not happening

runic hinge
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I switched to yours for rogue rn but I still use cevs for feral

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Spriest I’m using publiks stuff

past forum
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there's not a lot i'd need to add, i could probably figure it out by doing some script copy pasta. i very likely wouldnt cause a nuclear explosion doing that

balmy condor
modest gale
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just something to know its rdy

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rolls like in afenars not possible to make?

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nah nvm

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dont waste ur time on doggo spec

modest gale
slate crown
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for both bf and ar

modest gale
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im using whispyr edit

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ur using afenar original

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or

slate crown
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I know, I'm just saying I think that's a fine solution

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to put the glow on bf when it's ready to use

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and I'm not using afenar

balmy condor
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is afenars updated for 11.0

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last I checked it wasn't

modest gale
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nah

balmy condor
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aight

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ngl outlaw kinda fun

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but I haven't pressed KIR once

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I also have no clue what I'm doing

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and I don't like ghostly strike either

modest gale
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u spam bte basically

balmy condor
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yeh

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that's what it feels like

modest gale
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gs no gcd u can macro it

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but not recommended

balmy condor
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but then my ace doesn't proc

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and very stinks

fickle girder
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How high is your main gauche with your sin gear? kekw

balmy condor
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uhhh

runic hinge
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Who has secondary stats

balmy condor
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I was just kinda hitting dummies for 8ish min

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is this based

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I have no clue what I'm looking at

fickle girder
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Did a test earlier too

balmy condor
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yeh but that's single target right

fickle girder
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Yea

balmy condor
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I'm hitting 5t dummies

bitter solar
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Whispyr having a fever dream playing outlaw

balmy condor
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it doesn't feel as horrid as I remember

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but it doesn't feel that great either

earnest remnant
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who hurt you?

fickle girder
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Feels strange not seeing Sinister Strike

balmy condor
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idk I'm just fixing wa

modest gale
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ok

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u dont need to

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touch

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rolls

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it can be made from yours

balmy condor
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nice

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I didn't see any rolls ever

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is that something that needs to be tracked

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I just kinda hit it when the timer got low

modest gale
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u just need to go to rogue dynamic

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check and uncheck class and spec

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in load section

balmy condor
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that sounds like not a great solution

modest gale
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why not

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u do the same with afenars

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cause its outdated

balmy condor
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better ways to do it, like removing the talent check makes me see rolls again

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is there reroll logic

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or bad rolls

modest gale
#

u use custom wa for that

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or u do it by yourself

silent drift
#

Assassination ST similar to outlaws/sub? Or is one of the 3 specs just superior in ST?

modest gale
#

sorry mb read wrong

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outlaw is playable with ur wa

balmy condor
#

yeh just trying to make it better

slate crown
# balmy condor is there reroll logic

Yeah there's reroll logic, I worked with kieron to make a WA reroller but honestly it just gets cumbersome cause it changes every season and I think it's just best to look at the buffs and make the decision based on what buffs you have

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It typically is "always reroll with 1 buff except X buff, which is strong enough to hold onto it alone" and X has changed season by season

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right now it's true bearing

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I think t least

balmy condor
#

aight that's stinky fuck that

modest gale
#

we should hire professionals

slate crown
#

I just literally put zac's WA into mine and credit him

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for rtb

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it has nice indicators for if they came from KiR or CtO

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which can come into play whe nplaying KiR

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and I didn't feel like remaking it whole

nimble tartan
slate crown
#

maybe it changed peeposhrug

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another arguement for my point 😛

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that I wouldn't want to bake it into a WA

balmy condor
#

aight I'll just add the glows and then add trickster nonsense whatever and call it a day

regal estuary
#

So the guide says use mutilate to spread caustic spatter and also to use fok for combo points and spreading bleed. So which should I be doing I’m confused because should I just not be mutiliating every mob for caustic instead of fok?

silent delta
#

!wa

slate crown
pliant remnant
modest gale
pliant remnant
#

so you Mutilate every 10 seconds, and in-between that, you use FoK to get combo points

regal estuary
#

Ahhhh thanks add brain read too fast and didn’t notice the limit to one

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Tyvm ❤️

sudden brook
#

any op dungeon trinkets to grab

fickle girder
cobalt sphinx
#

egg from arakara is supposed to be good

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and crystal from dawnbreaker

split grail
#

Question: DO we only open with ambush and use the rest of our vanish to empower garrote?

balmy condor
balmy condor
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in single target you ambush garrote once

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cause no need to garrote more than once

sudden brook
split grail
#

I was wondering more ST. Like when we vanish do we use ambush for another deathstalker mark or do we garrote for empowered garrote

sudden brook
#

but I'm expecting sin to be good

cobalt sphinx
swift moss
#

!pandemic

prisma monolithBOT
#

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

wise socket
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
dark harbor
#

anyone know the icon code for crimson tempest, my friend went ahead and lost it

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or an easier way to find it over checking the files

balmy condor
#

wowhead

dark harbor
#

nice, didn't think they'd have that on there

balmy condor
#

you just click the icon

round lantern
#

is there a world where i would not press anything and save energy?

ex: mutilate -> blindside ambush -> envenom -> blindside ambush -> blindside ambush. Do i wait until 1 second left on envenom to press or send it?

dark harbor
#

much appreciated, i'll have to remember that

balmy condor
round lantern
karmic gazelle
#

Sin rogue ez to play and low apm ?

runic hinge
#

Can I take subterfuge to ambush every mob and get a lot of death stalkers marks out

fallen plover
#

you can only mark 1 mob at a time

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same as caustic

cerulean nest
#

how high can this go?

balmy condor
#

holy fuck

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that's actually crazy

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I didn't think it could even go that high

vital flicker
#

I've seen it get to 10

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but I don't have pics

balmy condor
#

according to sims it's possible to reach 16

vital flicker
#

so it didn't happen

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"possible"

balmy condor
#

over 17,000 fights

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but yeah 10 is already insane

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0.02%

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crazy

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1 in 5,000

vital flicker
#

People are going to be sitting on turnips between bosses to farm high stacks

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for that extra .00!~% dmaage

cerulean nest
#

how do you develop stacks exactly

vital flicker
#

0.001%

cerulean nest
#

i dont really know how it works

balmy condor
#

it's a proc chance

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2.5 procs a minute

cerulean nest
#

ah

vital flicker
#

then if you stocp attacking the stacks build up on your character

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until you attack a new target

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so you can save a bunch of damage stacks

uneven plume
#

export on WoWhead for talents does not work btw

balmy condor
#

which one

uneven plume
#

i tried to export fatebound sin

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hybrid

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and then cleave

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both did not work

blazing jewel
cerulean nest
#

literal sac pics

balmy condor
#

I just tried both and they work fine

uneven plume
#

might be cause WoWhead is freezing

balmy condor
#

🤷‍♂️

cerulean nest
#

lowkey this bee trinket is kinda fun

balmy condor
cerulean nest
#

go zoom

uneven plume
#

cold blood is interesting in fatebound

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we just macro is to CT?

balmy condor
#

envenom

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it doesn't work on CT

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CT is a dot

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can't cold blood dots

#

well

uneven plume
#

doesnt the first tick crit

balmy condor
#

I guess you could macro it to CT

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what

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no

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regardless though we play inevitability

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so it only triggers off envenoms anyway

runic hinge
#

It could make the first tick of Kb crit

uneven plume
#

fate doing 13mil in about 20-30 seconds

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not bad

balmy condor
#

that works

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cause instant hits are affected by cold blood

vital flicker
#

let's go

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I don't think there is a limit

balmy condor
#

hm

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let me see if there's something in the spell data

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might be capped at 99

vital flicker
#

I am at 43 so far

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either way I should probably tell daddy bliz that this is exploitable

balmy condor
#

maybe

loud gull
#

when playing fatebound, on what spell u want cold blood? envenom ?

balmy condor
#

inevitability forces it on envenom regardless

thin gate
#

do we FOK ST as deadstalker?

loud gull
#

alright thanks

vital flicker
balmy condor
#

oh no

vital flicker
#

well it goes above 99

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fun detected

balmy condor
#

do they discharge all at once

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or is it just insane agi

vital flicker
#

it doesn't give the agi

balmy condor
#

oh

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it's just queueing spiders

#

?

vital flicker
#

jsut the damage

balmy condor
#

I see

vital flicker
#

yeah

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over all of those 101 stacks the most I got up to was 9 stacks of the sgi

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agi*

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it's still over 6mill nature damage

glossy flicker
balmy condor
#

carnage smart targets

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the targetting itself is a bit nebulous

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but it will prioritize nearby enemies missing the dot

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and if it can't find any, it'll reapply to random ones that do

vital flicker
golden marten
balmy condor
#

what

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carnage smart targets

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the talent itself

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you the player need to swap targets still

golden marten
#

Yeah I mean during the opener when I have 6 sec buff after stealth disappear I using garrote garrote rupture rupture garrote rupture, but when I switching targets with tab usually it changes for the target with garrote/rupture already even if not mobs are with this dots

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Is it possible to fix somehow or need to fix it by myself (mouse over macro etc)

desert cove
#

no you're misunderstanding, it's the additional rupture casts that smart target

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if it helps you to understand most aoe healing from healers do the same thing based on hp, like chain heal from shaman

blazing pumice
#

you're trolling playing a dot class with no mouseover

balmy condor
#

no you're not

desert cove
#

yeah I was about to say

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I do fine and I don't have any mouseover macros

spice spire
#

Same

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But I’m an idiot

slate crown
#

Real heads don’t use mouseover macros, they set all casts to mouseover by default 2ez

desert cove
#

that is psychotic behavior

unkempt sapphire
#

What’s the max fatebound coin stacks y’all have hit

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I got up to 18 somehow

balmy condor
#

I had 26 in raid testing

agile willow
#

How much of a dps loss is it to just spam more garrotes and ruptures into 1 target to spread em

blazing pumice
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23.4%

balmy condor
vital flicker
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depends on how many targets there are

desert cove
#

23.4% is a crazy number to just throw out

balmy condor
#

it's not too big of a loss

blazing pumice
#

i actually used my calculator to work it out

balmy condor
#

your calculator is broken I think

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all of gar and rupture combined don't add up to 23.4%

desert cove
#

careful whispyr remember what happened the last time you did pre-school math /s

agile willow
#

I was expecting like, 'not much' or 'large loss', hah

slate crown
#

Considering it means you can shut your brain off and just vibe by doing so I’d say it’s about a 34.73 increase to do so.

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Dps. 34 dps

balmy condor
vital flicker
#

if you have 5 targets switching is literally just a waste of effort

balmy condor
#

well

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not even

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you'd lose 1 rup and 1 garrote

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it's not that big of a deal

blazing pumice
#

what if it's 12 targets

balmy condor
#

then you would lose 1 rup 3 gar

agile willow
#

That's when it's 23.4%

balmy condor
#

yeah, maybe even 234%

flat sentinel
#

so how many mobs we wanna maintain rup / gar on?

balmy condor
#

you want to maintain 5 ruptures for scent and garrote on your main target

bleak crag
#

How do you get Skardyn trinket ?

balmy condor
#

grim batol

bleak crag
#

isn't it cata ?

balmy condor
#

it is

bleak crag
#

we can upgrade to current ilvl?

balmy condor
#

when the season comes out yes

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it's a seasonal dungeon

bleak crag
#

oh lol

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Thanks I was so confused

white whale
#

#talent

runic hinge
#

When is court of stars coming back, i want to farm a ring

dense talon
#

definitely a noob question. once the first set of garrotes and ruptures (which i placed while engaging from stealth) expire or about to expire, do I need to manually add rupture and garrotes to all the mobs again? suppose there is a pack of 5 mobs.

dense talon
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so i prioritize just getting the rupture on 5 atrgets and ignore the garrote dot apart from the main one?

balmy condor
#

you'd only really do it if you're desperate for energy at the start of a pull or somethign

dense talon
#

appreciate it. ❤️

balmy condor
#

np

dense talon
#

crimson tempest is only for aoe dot and we just pump envenom in the primary target and depend on caustic spatter for aoe damage?

proud salmon
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yeah

balmy condor
#

yep

proud salmon
#

crimson tempest seems to be the highest prio in aoe

balmy condor
#

crimson tempest does no instant damage

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so no reason to spam it

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you just maintain it (it cranks)

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and that + the other bleeds carry your energy and like half your damage

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the rest is caustic and everything else

covert schooner
#

Hey guys, I haven't played assass in years, is there a video you reccomend that I can watch to get a refresher

desert cove
#

here is a quick vid if all you want is refresher like you said

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!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
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Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

  • For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
  • For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

desert cove
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btw from what I understand of this logic is that with deathstalker you should stay below 50%, but keep enough energy to be able to cast

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so are you sort of like micro pooling between 0 and 150 energy

covert schooner
desert cove
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np fam

dense talon
#

!wa

fringe lily
#

Hows everyone finding the current dungeons (granted theyre on HC) with the chain pulling and trying to get mark on something. Should DN carry it on? Suppose it'll get easier in m+ when things don't die so instantly

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Additionally, does echoing reprimand work with darkest night?

prisma monolithBOT
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Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

  • Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
    Echoing Reprimand....
  • Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
  • Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
    But the 3rd cp or something?
  • Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
    Does Blizzard know?
  • There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.
runic hinge
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Playing fatebound in heroic so I don’t have to juggle marks on targets that die in .2 seconds

balmy condor
#

based

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coinflipping fun atm

runic hinge
#

Okay that’s all true but you didn’t have to say it

oak eagle
#

LMAO

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tbh

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i dont even know how to play fatebound

#

i dabbled in it on beta a bit

halcyon grove
#

Is there sim for assa rogue correct? I saw it is lowest from all of rogue specs

oak eagle
#

but never fully tried to figure it out

balmy condor
oak eagle
balmy condor
#

Sims are just numbers

#

They don’t indicate balance

#

Man that should really be another chat command

#

Ffs I hate 11.0

balmy condor
oak eagle
#

aight bet

#

omw to flip all the coins

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just like i flip them burgers at mcdonalds

balmy condor
#

You don’t need to even track anything

oak eagle
#

ez pz

balmy condor
#

You can track coins but its basically just dopamine

oak eagle
#

i love me some dopamine

balmy condor
#

Rotationally you finish on 5 and gg fatebound

oak eagle
#

i use your afener edit so its probably in there anyways

balmy condor
#

Yeah I track coins for dopamine

#

I went back and forth on it for a while

#

The Uber sweaty gamer in me would say that coins are visual noise and unnecessary

#

But the for fun gamer in me won that debate

oak eagle
#

yeah but we hate uber sweaty gamers here

#

unless youre the goat JPC that is

balmy condor
#

True

halcyon grove
whole sand
#

they're not even out yet lol

distant halo
#

Assa feels so damn good. Last time I enjoyed it was in BFA. Thankyou blizz

runic hinge
#

I would say assa is definitely the spec I’m gonna play in raid so it’s definitely the best in raid

desert cove
#

I agree with Mr. Nugz

balmy condor
desert cove
#

yeah I'm a big fan of rogue being a two spec class

stiff igloo
#

Hello, i'v a question. Deathmark say you can cumulate x2 Garrote and Rupture. But when I sim with raidbot for the opti opening, they don't cast it just after the Deathmark to make the bleed Garrotte and Rupture x2, did I miss something ?

balmy condor
#

Deathmark duplicates on cast

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You don’t have to recast

fiery harbor
#

im currently at 577 ilvl with random ass heroic gear, i will upgrade some of them later without pressure but please tell me i don't need to sweat getting any bis at this point of the exp

stiff igloo
#

Ahhh ok thanks @tender bear

balmy condor
#

We don’t even have pre-raid bis

#

Because that’s cringe

#

And a waste of time

thorn crater
#

sooo just get to 577 and level an alt?

desert cove
#

I'd personally recommend between 580 to 585

balmy condor
#

If you wanna really go for it you can upgrade to 580 cause its just flight stones and then craft 590 gear

#

But yeah 577 is totally fine

#

Don’t even need that much tbh

thorn crater
#

i mean i got 3 daggers in my first 3 dungeons and a trinket on the fourth

balmy condor
#

Just get your full set of 571

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And call it a day

thorn crater
#

so now its just mix and match for the rest

desert cove
#

yeah realistically being like 570 gets you into m0s comfortably

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can't wait to send the bee trinket in m0s btw

fiery harbor
#

i started reading about crafting gear and for me any my very small mop brain

#

it's too much lmao

wise plover
#

just to clairify, when spreading bleeds out of stealth, does carnage prio mobs without the bleed on them over a mob that is positionally closer? I know when i played sub i have to be very careful about my positioning when rupturing

thorn crater
#

is there even a point in crafting gear though?

thorn crater
#

since embellish shit can change?

wise plover
#

ty ❤️

balmy condor
#

You don’t have to embellish

desert cove
fiery harbor
#

from what i understand crafting gear is way to get 590 gear quite fast if you want

#

but dont need it

balmy condor
#

Can also recraft at any point and just change embellish

desert cove
#

just an extra optimization if you have ~50k burning a hole in your pocket

waxen oyster
#

i sold a green pvp crafted recipe

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for 50k

next dust
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
thorn crater
#

recraft? as in swap materials on an item to another?

#

no way they implemented that lol

balmy condor
#

No as in just put a recraft order in

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Once the item is crafted you can just craft it again at a lower cost to change embellishments

thorn crater
#

need to read up on professions, i just jumped on the poor expansion train with no prep

waxen oyster
#

I will probably make some 590s but thats because i have 2.7m

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and raid tuesday+work late

snow kindle
#

590s are giga cheap rn it should only take like 10k to make

thorn crater
#

how many can you equip

#

of the craftable items

balmy condor
#

Infinite

thorn crater
#

ok whats teh catch

balmy condor
#

Limit 2 embellishments

#

Idk

thorn crater
#

just money?

waxen oyster
#

30 weathered

balmy condor
#

You don’t have crests atm

thorn crater
#

ah ok

#

the crests then

#

crests are those with a limit for a season right?

#

i fucked up in the past spending a lot early on and limiting myself later

balmy condor
#

With the cap increase next week you should be able to craft….. uhhh

#

7 pieces?

#

Maybe 8

waxen oyster
#

8 might be being sweaty

#

and keeping your renown bags of 15

balmy condor
#

Yeah 8 needs all the one time crests I think

thorn crater
#

one time crests are from renown?

#

which btw goes up a lot slower than in DF

fiery harbor
#

As someone who last played in mop is there some sort of guide for crafting?

thorn crater
#

quests dont give rep till the final one fo the cain

#

chain

#

and i dont know of a rep farm spot

waxen oyster
#

sidequests

#

rares

#

every sidequest in sojourner achieeve ends in 500 rep

fiery mauve
#

Can do bountiful delves on an alt

#

For rep

#

Have to open chest I believe

waxen oyster
#

yeah im doing the sidequests atm

#

to both level my alts

#

and have the rep

thorn crater
snow kindle
thorn crater
#

each delve gives rep

snow kindle
#

oh you mean pruple ones give rep?

thorn crater
#

and if u dont open chest u can redo them?

snow kindle
#

you def shouldnt be opening chests if you care about gear

fiery mauve
#

O boy I opened a can of worms

waxen oyster
#

delves only give rep if you use coffer key

#

on a bountiful?

balmy condor
#

Rep discussion

#

I’m out of my depth

thorn crater
#

i used 2 keys on purple delves 😛 before i found out i should not have

balmy condor
#

I think my highest renown in Dragonflight was a 12

waxen oyster
snow kindle
#

just download handy notes kill rares loot reasures and do side quests

#

and you win

thorn crater
#

is it that bad?

snow kindle
#

dont gotta do all that other stuff to get your crests

balmy condor
#

Is what bad

waxen oyster
#

my first renown 20 in df was niffen

#

due to the weekly

thorn crater
#

me using coffer keys

#

to open purple delves

#

at level 3

balmy condor
#

It fucks you out of 2 pieces of heroic raid gear I think

thorn crater
#

didnt even drop anything of value tbh

#

WHAT

balmy condor
#

That’s cause you used them in a 3

fiery mauve
#

You can get rep from using your bountiful keys

#

But obviously people are holding on main

waxen oyster
#

do coffer keys have a seasonal cap

balmy condor
#

The reason to hold keys is because you can use them on a higher level delve

#

And get decently good loot

#

But they’re capped at 3 atm

#

So it sucks

fiery mauve
#

Yeah you hold keys for better loot later on

thorn crater
#

welp

#

i used 2 of the 3

snow kindle
#

well max is 7

#

so

fiery mauve
#

So you do bountiful delves on an alt for the rep

thorn crater
#

imma go fuck myself

snow kindle
#

you got more to get

balmy condor
fiery mauve
#

Cause warbands

waxen oyster
#

how many coffer keys are there total rn

snow kindle
#

7

fiery mauve
#

But also you're probably going to do the bountiful delves anyways on your main for the rep

waxen oyster
#

From what

whole sand
#

i thought max was 6

waxen oyster
#

I think i havent done the hallowfall special assignment

whole sand
#

is that from the parts you can put together?