assassination

[grim jay]

Wdym 50k on a heroic weapon

[balmy condor]

just do whatever duration

*0.3

[waxen oyster]

like 50k on a "good" enchant

for an adventurer track weapon

[grim jay]

Ah ye

[dull copper]

It's 30% of either 32 or 35 seconds, yea

[grim jay]

Is that the famed preschool math?

[proud salmon]

rupture lasts 28 or 35

[inner swift]

is council of dornogal level 11 renown reward timegated or anything?

[proud salmon]

wait

the tooltip might just be making shit up

and you're right

let me check again in game

[dull copper]

yeah tooltip goes until 6 cp for some reason

I checked and maximum is 35 seconds if you are Deathstalker

(maximum fresh rupture)

[proud salmon]

well my tooltip is saying 28 for 6 and then i apply a rupture in game at 6 and it's 31

just gonna leave it at 8.4

[balmy condor]

deathstalker

[proud salmon]

ahh

makes sense..

💀

[balmy condor]

[boreal lichen]

How much dps are you guys getting in simming on Patchwork?

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

like 785k

[proud salmon]

stealing the kingsbane weak aura from one of the recommended packs, what is this logic for?

[balmy condor]

I guess a check to see if envenom duration is > kingsbane duration

[runic hinge]

I still hate that guy

[balmy condor]

but I have no clue what that's supposed to do

[proud salmon]

i see i see

yeah , the wowhead guide describes the burst sequence as p simple - that seems like an optimization that idr know much about

[grim jay]

We just arent on his level, what can we do but hate and be jealous

[proud salmon]

i will wait for lisonna to be around to ask

[runic hinge]

I need that other dude to come back and call me a 3k Andy like September 16th so I’m super motivated this season

[grim jay]

How do you still remember the date

Especially as a 3k m+ andy

[runic hinge]

[grim jay]

How high was he?

3.2?

[waxen oyster]

oh you mean the guy who was 2.7?

[balmy condor]

we are online

[waxen oyster]

we did it as a guild group

and got 4

[balmy condor]

I found a pug to do it the non-scumbag way

5 people who all want trinket and we just spam reset instance

instead of these asshats leaving queue

[grim jay]

Ara ara

[runic hinge]

xiani is right. The guy was 2.7 calling me a 3k Andy with no higher character

[balmy condor]

what do I do now

did I win

[civic adder]

Roll for tertiary stats?

[balmy condor]

hell nah

[grim jay]

Wait for a 577 wq ascension elixir thingy

[balmy condor]

[waxen oyster]

wasnt that up

today

[balmy condor]

idk I'm not gonna get that trinket anyway

miss me with that shit

[runic hinge]

Is the ascension elixer the 1.5 second cast?

[grim jay]

Yes sir

[waxen oyster]

is it even better

[runic hinge]

Yeah that thing sucks

[waxen oyster]

than the other 2min

[civic adder]

if you ascend xalatath can mind control you instanly so for lore reasons dog trinket

[grim jay]

Should be. Has agi + haste and gives agi instead of mastery or whatever

[naive pier]

does crimson tempest do instant damage when cast, or its an illusion and i should only maintain the bleed not to like fan of knives fan of knives then cimson tempest. and it it is what should me the replacement if I'm not running caustic spatter

[waxen oyster]

the arathi place one is highest stat

[grim jay]

Illusion

[waxen oyster]

whatever its called

the church

[grim jay]

Ye highest secondary

Or not?

[waxen oyster]

yep

[grim jay]

Yeah so its same agi

But one has haste aswell

And that one gives main instead of secondary

[waxen oyster]

the threads trinket looks interesting

you need rep 4 with all 3 of them though

[grim jay]

Yeah not gonna do that

[waxen oyster]

yeah its over 7k mainstat proc

with all 3

[grim jay]

Idk, renown with them looks slow

Until then its probably already weaker than the options

If its better now

[waxen oyster]

think hacha has it

but you needed to use the weekly rep thing

[feral mason]

Lets go dude

[waxen oyster]

one on general one on vizier

[feral mason]

They fixed the bug i found yday

guess they were already working on it or something, thats why it was refreshing when it wasnt before

[grim jay]

Yeah alright thats cheesy

[jaunty dew]

Is this the thing where if you envenom a target which dies you lose a mark?

[balmy condor]

no

[jaunty dew]

Sad life

[silk bane]

have u noticed any recent deathstalker bugfixed that werent announced? according to kush as of lst night, only 1 mark is getting applied again (if u have multiple rogus hitting a guy, only one of them gets mark)

[velvet nacelle]

man i don't understand how you're supposed to learn any recipes in alchemy

[jaunty dew]

experiments

[velvet nacelle]

my meticulous experimentation didn't give me a recipe today, just gave me a single flask

[balmy condor]

nop

[velvet nacelle]

and i'm on 22 failed experiments in a row

[jaunty dew]

oh

yeah

bad luck

[velvet nacelle]

this is horrible

this isn't even a little fun

[jaunty dew]

there's the liquid courage thing you can get i think

which lets you continue wild experiments

[velvet nacelle]

i think i've spent like 20k in mats since i ran out of my own and i still haven't gotten a recipe today

[grim jay]

Had one yesterday in a dungeon, being aware of that potentially being an issue, but it worked just fine

[jaunty dew]

It's gonna take a lot more than 20k mats for leveling it up

Also are you switching the mats you are using for experiments?

[velvet nacelle]

no i wasn't aware that was a thing

and you have to learn the courage recipe

through failure

or something

[jaunty dew]

Is it soul bound?

[velvet nacelle]

yeah

[jaunty dew]

Ah

[velvet nacelle]

someone in my guild said you learn it on failur ebut 22 in a row and no learn makes me think that's wrong

[jaunty dew]

But yeah, different herbs result in different poitions/flasks you learn

No its not by failure

Its knowledge points

In alchemical mastery

[velvet nacelle]

oh there it is

30 points, jesus

[jaunty dew]

Not that hard to get tbh

[velvet nacelle]

that's literally goign to be impossible at this rate

i can't learn any recipes to get first crafts

or acuity from

[jaunty dew]

Did you buy the book from the spider?

And the one from the weekly?

[velvet nacelle]

did the weekly

what reknown is the spider book?

[jaunty dew]

Non

You just pay 565 kej

And don't forget treasures + patron crafting orders

they also give kp

[velvet nacelle]

yeah i got all the treasures

and i can't do many patron orders since i dont' have any recipes

there were 2 healing potion ones so i did those

[jaunty dew]

My Alchemy is already at a 100

So just swap around the herbs you're using

[velvet nacelle]

just did

you broke my streak

i dont' see anything in the ui that hints that you need to do that

[hardy atlas]

sorry you need to be 590 in every gear slot to win

[balmy condor]

[grim jay]

And you could get your pvp set ready

For when you push r1 shuffle

[balmy condor]

my what

[grim jay]

"A-Z (hopefully) assassination rogue PvP"

Coming soon

[runic hinge]

I’ll make a PvP guide

It’s called

[feral mason]

"how to lose the will to live"

[runic hinge]

Don’t do ashran for ten days just for the death stalker title just to only play fate bound

Timmy’s title for short

[grim jay]

"1v2? Hold my nugz"

[feral mason]

what is the bug fix they posted even referring to then

if it isnt the mobs dying thing

[royal lantern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392807916543017000/1278912288530759743/degeneracy.mp4?ex=66d28762&is=66d135e2&hm=dcb53f9f8a1d2acc3416e22ab3b9935d958fe568fe2204efcc667a8c3393a30b&

are you even degen enough?

warning, the peak of brainrot

[grim jay]

Why is everyone sending the good stuff if I cant watch it

[balmy condor]

my therapist will hear about this

[royal lantern]

thats the reason you see EVERYONE in BG's!!!!

[balmy condor]

I've lost hope

[runic hinge]

I haven’t done a bg and I don’t even hate pvp

[grim jay]

Gimme a rundown

What did he say

What did he do

Who is that

[royal lantern]

something about

if you do a shitton of pvp, you can get pvp gear with sockets that still manages to have a decent ilvl for pve

so you should multibox pvp on multiple characters for honor

[grim jay]

Thats peak delusion

[balmy condor]

yeh his strat apparently is like farm a fuck ton of conquest

and conquest = heroic raid ilvl gear

but you can buy sockets from pvp vendor or something

and then guarantee socket the conquest gear

so you have heroic raid ilvl

with a socket

[grim jay]

Still dont know who that is tho, someone famous?

[balmy condor]

don't think so

[grim jay]

Maybe he will spit on us with his superior tactics and we will just ask ourselves why we arent like him

[pliant remnant]

hopefully you guys are kidding

[bronze pike]

is thats why i have a whole bunch of monkeys in my rbgs?

and brawls

and epic rbgs?

[balmy condor]

nah that's legit what he's doing

[bronze pike]

i just wanna farm honor for my tmogs in peace

[blissful storm]

small question because I cant find an aswer for it in guides,

• Are we allowed to overwrite garrote from Improved Garrote, or is it a big mistake?

[balmy condor]

you shouldn't

[grim jay]

For the sugon mog?

[kind forge]

what are you hiding ?

[bronze pike]

no, the whadup mog

[grim jay]

Oh no, the voices, stop

[hardy atlas]

if you have unspent vanishes you MUST overwrite garrote and rupture during stealth

[grim jay]

What are we cooking

[hardy atlas]

and remeber about pandemic shit

[late surge]

its hopeful, echo mage

[kind forge]

you must what

[hardy atlas]

isnt conquest weekly capped ?

[balmy condor]

dude I haven't pvp'd in like 7 years don't ask me I ain't a part of this degeneracy

[kind forge]

in other words

NEIN

[grim jay]

But you will need to, for your new guide

[grim jay]

Ah alright. So it aint surprising in the end

[distant halo]

does anyone have a plater profile for sin that shows rupture with pandemic glow, and that has the order of dots set on the nameplate instead of just when the dot was applied?

[late surge]

if it was some complete random I would be concerned xd

[vestal wren]

i usually do one pvp worldquest per month for the traidng post if i need points.
pro pvp player

[grim jay]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[grim jay]

You never know if it might be some m+ gamer

Those can get wild real quick

[late surge]

yo I do m+ 😠

ig ill have to do pvp now

!!

[grim jay]

But do you do 20h of keys every day?

[late surge]

hahahaha

yes

all of them I play double vanish

[grim jay]

[late surge]

it feels so much better!!!!

[blissful storm]

!macro

[late surge]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

I didn't even know that was a thing

[slow tulip]

lazy >>>

[vestal wren]

decision dilemma?

[grim jay]

We dont use macros

[vestal wren]

me reading "macos" instead of macros

[balmy condor]

is this new izen sheet or what

gonna lose my shit

[pliant remnant]

guys can i macro deathmark + shiv + kingsbane + garrote + echoing reprimand??????

[vestal wren]

its my sheet, sry

[balmy condor]

oh

[kind forge]

[balmy condor]

you just listed 5 gcds in a row

[pliant remnant]

[late surge]

p sure hes memeing whispyr

[balmy condor]

I'd hope so

but I've seen much stupider

I'm not taking risks

[spring socket]

Bring back the Shifty one push macros

[pliant remnant]

Somebody earlier was asking if they can macro DM, Shiv and Kingsbane

[late surge]

"can I make cast sequence of the opener"

[kind forge]

even if it would work well

[slow tulip]

hmm 1-2 extra buttons and a minigame or no extra buttons and no minigame for 0.07 difference

[kind forge]

where is the fun in that

[south drum]

Are you saying I can't just macro a 5 min sequence that I can push when ever we pull a boss

[slow tulip]

[spring socket]

The the dream

[late surge]

nah I play like that

trust

guaranteed legendary logs

[balmy condor]

just play deathstalker and never vanish again

[late surge]

wait wat

I missed

whispyr why dont we vanish

!

[fickle girder]

Unless you press garrotte instead of ambush in your opener due to muscle memory

[slow tulip]

deathstalker bugs will be fixed next reset, youve heard it here first

[spring socket]

I do this all the time

[balmy condor]

single target deathstalker builds can drop improved garrote

like this

no reason to vanish anymore

[fickle girder]

It's really a struggle

[late surge]

oh

[hardy atlas]

just play FB why do u even need that DS shit ?

[pliant remnant]

Honestly just fix the ER thing and I'll be content enough

[balmy condor]

if they fix er deathstalker is so banger

[late surge]

is this the actual build or just within margin

[balmy condor]

no like that's the best spec talent tree I have

[late surge]

oh

[spring socket]

I just wish they would fix some quest so i can get lore master in Azj Janet

[balmy condor]

imp gar is -0.2% compared to imp poison on that

[late surge]

oh

hell nah

Imma play double vanish in raid

without imp gar

giga

thanks whispyr

[balmy condor]

cooking

[vestal wren]

double vanish is soo 🚮 ... i mean good

[late surge]

so I can unbind vanish in raid

thats pog

[balmy condor]

yeh

[late surge]

thats so cooked tho

bring bleed dam back please

[balmy condor]

"my stealth gar" mfers when improved poison is better

mplussers seething

and I'm living for it

[late surge]

my stealth gar for more energy

fuc kthe dam

I want it spread

[balmy condor]

I might not be able to convince them that stealth doesn't matter

[random fossil]

Big poison winning finally

[balmy condor]

but I can at least force them to drop imp gar in raids and mald while they clear for tier

and that's good enough for me

[late surge]

hahahaha

[kind forge]

wotlk mut envenom spec is back

[late surge]

xd

[glossy remnant]

can someone explain this APL action for me?
cp_max_spend-2<?5*talent.hand_of_fate

what does <? stand for in this context?

[royal lantern]

the stockholm kicks HARD

lmao

[late surge]

this is not the build on wowhead right?

it uses imp gar over poisons

or am I tweakin

[royal lantern]

nah, they will use double vanish everywhere and tell you some esoteric reason why its the best choice

and then drop iron wire for 0,1%dps

[late surge]

surely the whole argument for double vanish is the iron wire value

[balmy condor]

it's a comparator that picks the higher of the two values, was made before 7cp/deathstalker was a thing so it just perma evaluates to 5 cause I haven't cleaned it up yet

[vestal wren]

we should add a "no iron wire" role haha

[kind forge]

like the dust hater one

[late surge]

we finish on 5+ right?

[balmy condor]

ye

[late surge]

❤️

[glossy remnant]

@balmy condor that explains a lot, thank you. It takes the higher one? To me it reads (or at least I interpret it as ::min instead, so it would take minimal of the two). Thank you so much was going nuts with this line.

[grim jay]

Tryan gets his own certified deathstalker hater role, petition coming soon

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor if that build would get life

how long do you think it would take until you see the first "vanish not used for dmg feels wrong, im a ROGUE after all!!!!" comment?

[vestal wren]

i like deathstalker thematically

[glossy remnant]

did u write this APL btw? huge props on it, I think it is the hardest apl I've seen (in a good sense).

[balmy condor]

yeah <? and >? are max and min respectively

[vestal wren]

look at subtlety ^^

[balmy condor]

I did yes

did a full rewrite of it for 10.2 and then like a half rewrite for 11.0

was kinda hell

if you wanna see actual nonsense go look at fire mage though

[royal lantern]

whats wrong with fire

[balmy condor]

their apl is head spinning

this is just pre-combat variable setting

[feral mason]

sims for every other class are so goofy

[balmy condor]

combustion,use_off_gcd=1,use_while_casting=1,if=hot_streak_spells_in_flight=0&buff.combustion.down&variable.time_to_combustion<=0&(action.scorch.executing&action.scorch.execute_remains<variable.combustion_cast_remains|action.fireball.executing&action.fireball.execute_remains<variable.combustion_cast_remains|action.pyroblast.executing&action.pyroblast.execute_remains<variable.combustion_cast_remains|action.flamestrike.executing&action.flamestrike.execute_remains<variable.combustion_cast_remains|action.meteor.in_flight&action.meteor.in_flight_remains<variable.combustion_cast_remains)

and then whatever the fuck that is

[glossy remnant]

oh jesus fuck

[feral mason]

Not sure how much it has to do with the class complexity and the TCs

But they are far inferior

[slow tulip]

i demand whispyr to chance his hair colour everytime he plays different talents

[royal lantern]

REAL

[balmy condor]

I tried to alt fire for like a week and I thought I knew the spec

but then I opened the APL to take a peak at something

[glossy remnant]

all of that to sim 30% less than arcane 😄

[balmy condor]

and my head exploded

[burnt yacht]

friends what poisons should i use for leveling/dungeons?

[balmy condor]

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[royal lantern]

comparing sim numbers is not a smart move in any form at all

comparing them at the current moment even less

[feral mason]

fire is ass though

regardless of sim numbers

[grim jay]

Thats probably because its a 4 button spec but rather complicated on the conditions

[feral mason]

Fire really got done over by their “rework”

[burnt yacht]

ty

[feral mason]

Damage got moved away from funnel and nerfed to shit since they overtuned the first few cycles obscenely

[vestal wren]

holy shit

thats a bit too many variables

[hot linden]

Is there any situation outside of darkest night where I want to be casting at max combo points?

[random fossil]

If I could read I'd be laughing at them rn

[balmy condor]

I've been using more variables recently to try and cut down on repeated bloat and maybe speed up aoe sims a bit since the iteration time is giga high

but yeh fire is crazy

it's a lot

[balmy condor]

I mean if you land on max you would finish of course, but no reason to force yourself to max, no

[vestal wren]

oh so you are drying it ^^

(dry = don't repeat yourself, a programming paradigm)

[balmy condor]

yeh yeh

like the shiv conditional

was always !shiv, has rup, blah blah blaah

just condensed it

variable and good to go

only needs to evaluate once

gg

also helps just make things tidy for when I inevitably try and get automatic prio swapping working for dungeonroute

but that's a project for like 11.1 or 11.2

absolute headache that one is

[vestal wren]

oh thats an interessting concept

[buoyant pewter]

guys, is haste currently something valuable at all ?

[grim jay]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[vestal wren]

i haven't looked at dungeon routes

[midnight mist]

Oh, I heard about those

Pussy ass variables

[buoyant pewter]

tyty

[balmy condor]

yeah dungeonslice can't really do prio anything cause it's time based so it doesn't actually go any faster, you'd have to evaluate it based on the metric simc spits out, but I was talking to seriallos and saeldur about it, the idea is that profileset_metric could be used to evaluate priority damage instead of overall damage for aoe sims, and if it's not too difficult to automatically evaluate if priority rotation should be used, you could toggle a variable in the APL on/off depending on the pull to facilitate it

but profileset_metric breaks raidbots atm cause of similar reasons why aug raid sims didn't work, mostly an engine thing and it's kinda tricky to fix

so idk

we'll see I guess

[grim jay]

Forgot my own name while reading that

[vestal wren]

sounds interessting, means priority_rotation for sin/sub and possibly other classes could be relevant

[royal lantern]

mate, the smart people are talking, we are just tourists rn

[balmy condor]

yeah I looked into priority_rotation briefly for assa but couldn't really find anything impressive on first glance so I kinda shelved it to see how m+ meta evolves around it and if raidbots can support the setting

even just opening the html over and over is kind of a pain in the ass

for advanced

but if it works it would work on like top gear and stuff too

so gear/talent comparisons

kinda cool

would be neat

idk

profileset_metric is like an ass ancient variable though that koji drug out from the bowels of simc

think it dates back to like legion frameworks

thing is super old

[grim jay]

My best guess is they are talking about a way to manipulate us through sims and make is do their bidding

[balmy condor]

imagine if instead of simming aoe in raidbots top gear/etc, you could sim priority dps in aoe

and then on top of that, imagine if you sim a dungeon and the sim automatically swaps over to priorty dps depending on the pack

[slow tulip]

where can i donate money to whispyr ? does he have an OnlyFans or ?

[balmy condor]

it's onlyfeet get it right

[midnight mist]

How would that ever work btw

[balmy condor]

[midnight mist]

Cause it depends on the damage of the group

[vestal wren]

legion was when we introduced dungeon slice so possibly related to that

[balmy condor]

dungeonroute evaluates packs by health values instead of by time like dungeonslice, so you can toggle the APL to even out HP in a pack for example, which would bring down the combat time of the sim, and since it's the same total mob health every time, shorter combat time = more dps

[balmy condor]

yeh

[midnight mist]

I see

I could see it

[brisk pulsar]

!craft

[balmy condor]

like the way dungeonroute works right now is you make a route in mdt, just as an example here

[midnight mist]

I think the issue is still that when you don't have aoe damage to compliment your prio it's a bit weird

But

[balmy condor]

and then you can define how much % of the groups damage you're doing

[midnight mist]

Ye I know how dungeon route works dw

[balmy condor]

it divides the mob health to your portion

okay

[balmy condor]

I mean sure, that's still user error

it's a tool right

[brisk pulsar]

has anyone crafted anything yet with their spark

[balmy condor]

can't hit a nail with a screwdriver

[balmy condor]

no, read the pins

[tribal meteor]

is the edit up to date for the dagger craft ?

[rotund jungle]

Whispyer? Could u share your Armory link with us? 🙂

Or IO

[balmy condor]

my hope is that anyone that has the know-how how to sim dungeonroute and then turn on prio dps evaluation would be intelligent enough to use the data it gives at least

[grim jay]

Sounds like more reasons to flame rogues that dont do prio damage instead of aoe

[balmy condor]

for what

[midnight mist]

No I just mean the result could be a bit weird in sims since you are doing both the prio and then swapping to AOE, kinda lowering the value of your prio damage if instead the sims where to, for example, simulate a group doing AOE while you were doing prio

[grim jay]

Did try hitting the nail with the grip

Works surprisingly well

[balmy condor]

you could still have a full toggle alongside the auto-toggle

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

very easily

[rotund jungle]

Wanna check out your gear

[balmy condor]

it's random heroic shit

[midnight mist]

Anyway I think it's a very interesting idea

[balmy condor]

and a couple crafts

[rotund jungle]

Thanks 🙏

[balmy condor]

ya

[orchid pewter]

You can tho, its the roofmans secret tech

[balmy condor]

hit dn with your teeth bucko

how bout that

[ornate gazelle]

what hero talents/build is best now? i saw fatebound might be better than deathstalker now? is it bugs?

[orchid pewter]

[limber abyss]

I know it doesn't matter at all really, but is there a way to run a sim to see exactly what missives I should have on each of my crafts? Can sim for each piece individually, but is there a way to sim as a whole, given so much of our gear rn is crafted?

[balmy condor]

ER bug kinda blows but they're very close overall, fatebound just cranks in heroics atm because you pull legit 90% of the dungeon at once and the mark blows and you can't abuse prio

[grim jay]

Why do you care so much

Just craft whatever you think it is you are lacking

[ornate gazelle]

ohhh for sure, i meant more looking to the future on those 5 minute patchwerk fights in raid (;

[balmy condor]

if you hit the little + you can change the stats on crafted gear

[balmy condor]

yeh they're pretty much equal

fatebound had a bugfix that gave it like 2.5%

so now it's a bit ahead

when ER deathstalker gets fix

[grim jay]

That will send him into combination hell

[balmy condor]

it'll be a bit behind

[ornate gazelle]

ohhh interesting

[balmy condor]

not really though right

[ornate gazelle]

i like fatebound, you can play and watch the new lotr show at the same time

[balmy condor]

I mean, could also just run like 8 droptimizers

with each stat combo

and then pick them out of that

idk

there's plenty of ways to do it

you could even just add gem sockets to everything and then sim gems and get an idea from that

mind you that's nowhere near the accuracy he needs

but ya know

[grim jay]

But whats the accuracy he really needs

Does it even exist

[balmy condor]

if you're gonna be degenerate about crafting stats in pre-raid

you gotta be willing to get degenerate with your sims

[vale lantern]

@grim jay upon resimming my self today im at 689k 583 ilvl 5 min 1 bnss all buffs except PI

[grim jay]

See

Talents were probably wrong

[vale lantern]

yeah i looked and i had 0 deathstalker talents in

[balmy condor]

583 and 689?

that can't be right

[vale lantern]

should i be higher or lower o.O

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4Jvkz6mqqm11wEAS68pwXn

is that how i share it

[balmy condor]

you're the same ilvl as me but 100k lower

lemme take a look

[vale lantern]

i think i need more haste

[midnight mist]

Well whisp main hand is 13 ilvl higher

[balmy condor]

oh you have no on use trinket no enchants and a 580 dagger and you're simming the wrong flask

yeah okay

checks out

[vale lantern]

oh i simmed with default for flask

[balmy condor]

talents I guess are kinda wrong but not bad

[vale lantern]

and yeah no enchants yet

[balmy condor]

yeh idk why it's defaulting to vers

[midnight mist]

I wish you could top gear consumables

[balmy condor]

need to check that out

[vale lantern]

whats wrong with the talents i took them from wow head o.O

[balmy condor]

it definitely shouldn't be

[balmy condor]

they're kinda assuming ER is fixed so that I can do less effort

[vale lantern]

this was everything when i pushed the button

[balmy condor]

but there's like 0.8% or whatever extra to be had from dropping some stuff and whatever

[balmy condor]

yeh it's not your fault, alchemical is just better

but the sim isn't defaulting to it

and I'm not entirely sure why it's doing that

[vale lantern]

ah yeah thats the one i would be using

[balmy condor]

I have it set up to default to alchemical

but idk

[cunning basin]

Machines conspiring against us

[brazen wedge]

Is upgrading off hand dagger have more priority than all other pieces, damage increase wise?

[balmy condor]

something to look into next week

not really no

bout the same

[vale lantern]

what should i spec into if not ER?

[royal lantern]

offhand is the lowest priority out of everything

[balmy condor]

2/2 leth instead of resounding

[vale lantern]

got it ill pop that in

[grim jay]

Which one was that again? The rotating stats thing?

[cunning basin]

Yuh

[balmy condor]

would also check dropping imp gar for imp poison, as well as dropping shrouded and arterial

[vale lantern]

i just clicked on your video for raid and i noticed you dont have AP should i still have that or is that a choice

[balmy condor]

it's an option

there's a bunch of fucking nonsense talent wise that can be done

spec is a clown show

[cunning basin]

Wtf

[vale lantern]

im all for trying stuff out if its suggested

[grim jay]

Atleast people cant complain that there is no diversity

[midnight mist]

Where, cause there is a special file that chose the consumables, and as far as I can see rn, we haven't updated it for level 80, also these consumables things are still class wide for us, but we could change that

[balmy condor]

yeh just do a talent combinator swapping shrouded for dashing, untalenting arterial for tiny toxic, dropping imp gar for imp poison

those are kinda the swaps to try out

in various combinations

[balmy condor]

I thought I snuck it into the assa apl

[cunning basin]

Dropping impgar shrouded and AP sounds like some form of heresy what has gone wrong

[midnight mist]

I don't think you can do that

It's 'hard coded" in the apl_rogure.cpp file

[royal lantern]

happens when you buff envenom and its amps over and over again

[balmy condor]

hm

probably overrides it then yeh

[cinder pebble]

Should I get the Elemental Lens instead of the Lining if I am to bad to keep me above 80%? 😄

[royal lantern]

bro

[balmy condor]

no

[cunning basin]

God dammit blizzard.

[royal lantern]

thats not a you thing lol

[balmy condor]

but yeh that's a healer issue

and it's very easy to be above 80

[feral mason]

lens is kinda okay rn

but doesnt scale at all so

[vale lantern]

okay so resimming with the right flask and enchants im at 763k that makes more sense

[feral mason]

i know the crit doesnt increase either but that still kinda scales with your main stat

[balmy condor]

yeh okay ez

now you just need an on use trinket

and you're chillaxin

[vale lantern]

which one use trinket are we looking for currently

[grim jay]

The glorious Worldquest ascendance trinket

That casts for 1.5s

[cunning basin]

God I hate that trinket

[feral mason]

Bee taxi op as hell for heroic dungeons

[balmy condor]

I mean not even that thing

[feral mason]

Seeing as theres nothing else to play now

[balmy condor]

you can use anything that gives stats on use

[feral mason]

critting on bosses for 2.8 mil kinda fun

but really doesnt matter what you have rn anyway

[gusty stag]

I just copied someone else in here for the sake of benchmarking him.. I usually run dungeon slice 15 minutes 4 bosses. It's more realistic imo.

[cunning basin]

Ye we all gonna be in grim batol week 1 kekw

[vale lantern]

ill have to look into getting one i seem to only have equip trinkets in my inventory and 1 on use one at 551 ilvl but it gives 6k mastery

[balmy condor]

I'm sorry you what

[feral mason]

custom dslice

?

[balmy condor]

not possible

dslice overrides all raid event inputs

[feral mason]

What scenario are you hitting 4 mobs for 15 minutes

How is that “more realistic”

[grim jay]

He probably means he swapped from dslice to 4 bosses 15 mins

[balmy condor]

that's the real question

4 boss 15 min is diabolical

[vale lantern]

the one where i am hitting a group of target dummys to learn a rotation

thats all i could think of that i would be doing for 15 mins log

[grim jay]

Trying to solo dps a council boss

Wdym

[feral mason]

Hitting dummies for that long consecutively is bad for your gameplay

[cunning basin]

I had an almost 15 minute council fight in amirdrassil once

[feral mason]

Only on outlaw its good

like you are never going to hit an aoe pack that long (especially with all the stealth IC shit in m+)

Builds terrible habits

[grim jay]

Bcs your brain cant get any worse?

[cunning basin]

That was... Uh. I was gonna make a joke but tbh it was the worst thing I've ever done

[feral mason]

Also there isnt 4 target dummies so uh

im really curious why

such a specific sim

[cunning basin]

Forbidden jutsu

[late surge]

my char rn wants to run dashin ttb and imp poison

pog

garrote from stealth no longer necessary

!

[grim jay]

Would you say its more diabolical than the muskelbruder Sims?

[pliant remnant]

Checkmate, atheist

[feral mason]

holy

[cunning basin]

LMAO

[orchid pewter]

get rolled

[cunning basin]

You kinda got bodied tbh

[valid magnet]

what does he sim?

[dapper fractal]

Is ass rouge top rouge atm?

[balmy condor]

Yes easily

[feral mason]

musclebrah was no longer going gym last time I checked

[grim jay]

Everything from 6 to 12 target 2 min or something

[feral mason]

no clue what happened

[grim jay]

Did he ever?

(no offense)

[feral mason]

he used to have some muscles yeah

[pliant remnant]

https://imgur.com/E9Ub5Kt

[vestal wren]

you can go with the classic 8-10 bosses 40 seconds instead ^^

[grim jay]

[vestal wren]

(its a joke, please don't do that for anyone trying to have reliable simulation results)

[kind forge]

[cerulean nest]

is it normal for the sanguine raid build to be outsimming 2x VV

[feral mason]

wat

[cunning basin]

Fuu spreading misinformation on the internet

[ornate gazelle]

i think there's a bug making it slightly worse still

[balmy condor]

2 min aoe is pretty respectable, like it’s not really how he should be simming but it’s not the worst thing I’ve heard and if he wants to know aoe stuff specifically then like that’s fine

[cerulean nest]

making VV worse on sims specifically?

[feral mason]

I just send 1m30 since massive pulls take that long in m+ higher keys sometimes

[balmy condor]

Fuck off with your 30s sims

[feral mason]

but it can be a lil clunk with cds

[grim jay]

He did it to form an average out of patchwerk, dslice and those sims or something iirc

[ornate gazelle]

i'm genuinely curious about the shenanigans perma tricks can cause this tier. last boss platforms split raid, you've tricks'd the other platform's tank and adds don't have aggro yet. do they teleport to other platform?

[balmy condor]

Yeah I mean classic m+ wanting to have a billion data points

Kinda fine

Respect it

[feral mason]

Reprogramming whole APL for accelerated openers would be more effort than its worth

[cunning basin]

Tricks has a range limit

If your tricks target is too far you just won't redirect aggro

In dungeons I was usually able to pull like 2 packs ahead but nothing more

[feral mason]

Is that new? Or is the range just absurd

[vestal wren]

trickster 1h tricks gives aggro back quite a bit away

[ornate gazelle]

i feel like in dungeons i've had the tank die and adds i'm hitting start going for tank after they release

[feral mason]

because you could pull mobs on one AA island to the next

[grizzled osprey]

SND is not used anymore ?

[cunning basin]

Does it? For me it wasn't working past around 40 yds or so

[balmy condor]

It is

[ornate gazelle]

in before we're tricks'ing our side's platform of adds to the other side on last boss.....

[grizzled osprey]

Owh ! Can get info from wowhead about it

[vestal wren]

my tank got aggro

even tho he was quite far away

so idk

[cunning basin]

Hmm

[vestal wren]

was some days ago

[cunning basin]

Weirdge

[vestal wren]

maybe it got changed/fixed

[grizzled osprey]

nvm, was on leveling area.

[balmy condor]

It’s in the openers, maintains itself after that with envenoms

[feral mason]

wouldnt be surprised if stonevault allowed some kind of shenanigans with tricks in mdi

or dawnbreaker

[cunning basin]

I'll fuck around with it later. Could been los thing since last I tried I was in a diff room

[feral mason]

dawnbreaker both boats at once

[cunning basin]

Can't wait for my 10 keys to say "need trickster rogue for skips" or some weird shit like that lmao

[feral mason]

Gonna test that when I get home

Those mobs are pretty piss and you can do that snap without trickster

saves like 30s

[dapper fractal]

Which rouge spec is best atm?

[feral mason]

stop asking in all 3 channels nobody has an answer for you sir

cant fotm goon yet

[dapper fractal]

Didn’t ask in all 3

[cunning basin]

Outlaw

[dapper fractal]

:x

[ornate gazelle]

wouldn't surprise me if we're running ahead on the candle cart area tagging everything ahead back to tank

[dapper fractal]

Idk what yer lookin at

[cunning basin]

Oh boy :x

[ornate gazelle]

i'll just be falling into holes repeatedly tbh

[cunning basin]

Play the one that's fun, rwf will tell us which one is broken

[feral mason]

He deleted his messages

dawg cmon

[novel star]

darkflame is already most hated dungeon of the expansion

what a fucking mess

[feral mason]

darkflame has a little too much walking but its fine

[cunning basin]

I actually like darkflame, I've had a lot of people insta leaving dawn breaker and uh

[feral mason]

people just dk what to do

[cunning basin]

City of threads I think

The one with the amogus part

Nobody wanna do that shit lmao

[novel star]

city of threads is bad but its just like nothing is happening bad

darkflame theres still things happening but the things happening are not fun

[feral mason]

Wonder if they’ll adjust stuff further for m+ but it has a bit too many rp mechanics for my taste

They gotta normalize city of threads imposter spawns though, the areas are somewhat the same but some routes / locations take 10-15 extra seconds

[ornate gazelle]

it's looking like a mostly single target tier and second to last boss has huge short damage amp windows and last boss has an add phase with a priority add that needs to be nuked... so i'm guessing sub but who the hell knows

[cunning basin]

The dungeons are interesting for sure, it's neat that there's a lot more things to do in several besides just pull huge and rush to end

[novel star]

tbf its mostly in the last area tho

[feral mason]

All 3 of them have shit spawns, it adds up

[novel star]

if they cut that dungeon at 3 bosses it'd be fine

everything past the third dude is one big gimmick and its so exhausting

already lmao

[feral mason]

Idk I enjoy the minecart bit and the last boss (minecart bit is way too easy honestly)

maybe just me

[ornate gazelle]

mine cart feels poopy when ranged can stand on cart and nuke adds with full damage and we have to wait for them to get to cart

[feral mason]

wish there was big mobs in the minecart area that actually did something

All of them seem like fodder

[cunning basin]

Idk or care, I'll end up playing whatever the smart people say is the best cuz I enjoy all three specs a lot but my normal advice to people is to play what's fun

[feral mason]

minus the one you have to blind

[cunning basin]

Most people ain't ever gonna put up numbers like the sims say anyways so it doesn't matter what's "best" for the fotm chasers

[novel star]

just play sin always forever even if its ass

[ornate gazelle]

sin is ass

literally

[novel star]

ass (twice)

[green patrol]

You can put upp all your bleed etc and then chill at minecart, still feels pretty meh but bigger numbers atleast

[royal lantern]

based and real

[royal lantern]

we all are bottoms here

[novel star]

whats even the point of playing rogue if im not using bleeds and poisons

[cunning basin]

O_O

[grim jay]

But you told me im a dick the other day

[novel star]

if i wanted to use shadow magic id play shadow priest!

[cerulean nest]

dude the honeybee trinket into shadowstep is kinda a clean maneuver

[novel star]

🗣️

[cunning basin]

Shadow dance is cool and I play swashbuckler in 5e

[grim jay]

Is 5e some kinda prison

Or something

[feral mason]

DND

[novel star]

dnd

[cunning basin]

DnD 5e

[novel star]

5th edition

[royal lantern]

outlaw is pure garbage and i played swashbuckler in my longest campaign

[grim jay]

Oh alright

Sometimes feels like im potentially the only person here that never played dnd

[oak abyss]

anyone know a HC-dungeons bis list for assa?

[cunning basin]

I love outlaw thematically, it's usually my go to m+ spec

Sucks they deleted it this expansion

[grim jay]

No because we dont do that stuff around here

[cunning basin]

Xd

[grim jay]

Zac said its great

[novel star]

ask the grass and flowers in your lawn what the bis list is

[hardy atlas]

i only know that ara-kara trinket is bis rn

[cunning basin]

We're degenerate but not THAT degenerate

[novel star]

and then allow your evil thoughts to drift away with the wonder of life

[ornate gazelle]

just do a droptimizer for dungeons at 580 ilvl

[oak abyss]

I would assume someone is hehe

[sinful sand]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cunning basin]

Idk if it's actually good or not I just like the meme lmao

[novel star]

i spent 3 hours getting the bee mount today and im like 560 something

[feral mason]

correct priorities

now farm chitin

[oak abyss]

ur right

[novel star]

your bis doesnt matter ur replacing literally any "optimal item!!!" with something with a way worse effect after 2 m+ runs because more agility

live life.

[cunning basin]

Yeah heroic dungeon bis kind of a meme

[feral mason]

got full bis on accident

[novel star]

[feral mason]

was just doing hc dungeons with friends a whole bunch and now my stats are cranked

[grim jay]

Stats

[oak abyss]

I hear you, but its always fun to hunt gear ^^

[cunning basin]

Chances are most things are within a % or so of each other if you're just upgrading gear, and those itty bitty % will not matter because you're probably not playing perfectly anyways

[feral mason]

Ay man i had 10k vers shit had to go

[cunning basin]

So best chance is just pick up what you can, upgrade it, practice your rotation

[grim jay]

Undercover pvper confirmed

[feral mason]

Undercover outlawer

very sneaky

[grim jay]

Didnt wanna insult you

But you did it yourself

[cunning basin]

Outlaw enjoyer? In THIS CHANNEL?

Heresy

[grim jay]

The OL channel is leaking

There even are many of them on the mage discord

[cunning basin]

Hey I don't blame em for going mage

It's probably nice being god's favorite princess

Mage and warlocks always good pick since mage is the main character and warlocks bitch until blizz makes them good

[pliant remnant]

I dunno about god's

but I'd love to be daddy's favourite princess

[royal lantern]

you mean what outlaw was for almost the entire time since m+ exists?

[cunning basin]

Hunter community just kinda sits there and takes it

[cunning basin]

[cunning basin]

Holup-

[pliant remnant]

[grim jay]

Ye bcs they are sandbagging

Always shit

Until you see one and hes really strong

[cunning basin]

Even when they're not like every hunter I see is either like "yeah ig we're op now" or "yeah I guess we're shit now"

Like damn it's just not that real apparently lmao

[hardy atlas]

are rogues OP now ?

[feral mason]

Used to be a sub main until sub rework happened

Fucking hate it now idk why

Not even just dust, finishers outside of sextech feel awful now

[lethal mist]

holy fuck assa is dominating dungeons

i love it

[grim jay]

Until everyone is screaming OP over irrelevant content and we end up getting nerfed

[lethal mist]

true

[cunning basin]

I enjoy the sub rework. I don't like dust and I never will but the spec feels nice to me

But I'm also a known multi-spec enjoyer so

[grim jay]

The rework itself decent, but they didnt go far enough

Too many builder talents

[cunning basin]

Yeah idk. I didn't personally have a lot of gripes with how the specs play post rework but definitely could see why there's still some issues

Now me personally if I could change the sub tree I'd just delete dust and the rotten :d

[grim jay]

Sub without dust is pretty zZ unless they make it a 1 min spec again

[cunning basin]

Yeah I just don't like the talent lmao. Same with ER. I just don't care for it. Nothing I can really put my finger on(except ER, I think it's incredibly boring)

[royal lantern]

ER is such a meme

cant wait for 2030 where we have 10CP

[cunning basin]

LMAO

[royal lantern]

and ER does 7CP finishers

[grim jay]

I dont think its an issue with it basically giving Max cp finishers

If it went lower then max cp then ye

[feral mason]

I mean it doesnt technically

[cunning basin]

Idk just like the other cov abilities were pretty cool. I don't super love the gameplay around sepsis but it was a neat idea at least

[feral mason]

It was 7 before we got 7cp

so if they add another cp they will probably forget

[grim jay]

But practically it does rn

[cunning basin]

ER is like it gives you a thing that in theory would interact in an interesting way, but you just like ignore it lol

[royal lantern]

nah, they all sucked

0 redeeming qualitys

[cunning basin]

Disagree but still based

Kekw

[royal lantern]

and befire Somebody says SBS: The current SBS has almost nothing to do with the covenant ability

[grim jay]

The only good covenant ability was door of shadows or what ever it was called

[cunning basin]

I disagree with your opinion, however I respect your gigachad baseditude

[spice spire]

Original sbs was extremely based

[grim jay]

Current sbs is way better

[spice spire]

I will fight you to the death

[spice spire]

Okay old man

[grim jay]

Fight me

I'll hit you with my cane

[royal lantern]

yes please

[spice spire]

I will. Half naked you choose the half

@ both

[grim jay]

Bottom half, so you can use your cane aswell

[weak isle]

[cunning basin]

[spice spire]

[pliant remnant]

Dual wield canes

[weak isle]

What did I just wwlk into

[pliant remnant]

[royal lantern]

[spice spire]

Most average 5 am Assassination channel message

[weak isle]

[royal lantern]

5am?

im 8min into my workbreak

at 12

[spice spire]

Yeah and I work a big 4h shift today

[cunning basin]

I think my favorite bit is when someone says something and we get the chain 's going on

Good times

[grim jay]

I have a 9 inch shift for you

[pliant remnant]

[cunning basin]

HUH?

[royal lantern]

short fridays are the best

[grim jay]

(am not good with freedom units btw)

[cunning basin]

My Fridays are always short

[hot fulcrum]

Whispyr, where you've got those 2 daggers? Is it cache random drop? Because I can't get hows it possible to get 2 with such a low chance 😦

[grim jay]

Yeah the short 4 pm fridays

Gotta love em

[short ledge]

do we have hope to get a patch on the kiryan deathstalker patch ? 🙃

[feral mason]

who knows

they're fixing bugs that are a lot less noticeable

so they definitely know it exists, just probably hard to fix

[keen viper]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[cunning basin]

Yeah. Probs a difficult fix and they're more focused on getting the easy shit out the way while they figure it out

[fading belfry]

Hello guys, fuu spreadsheet show a différent m+ build than the one on wowhead Wich one is the go to?

[pliant remnant]

Pretty sure those are both Crepuscular Cravers, which drop off of the last boss of Darkflame Cleft

[grim jay]

He just upgraded hc daggers ye

[pliant remnant]

Unless the whole "hows it possible to get 2 with such a low chance" was a rhetorical question

and you just pinged him to tell him he's lucky

[grim jay]

Its not even lucky

[hot fulcrum]

As I see both are Ancient Forged Shank)

[grim jay]

To have 2 daggers from dungeons

[keen viper]

in the wa of afenar edit is there slice n dice visible?

[grim jay]

If you dont have it up yes

[cunning basin]

It's visible if it's not up ye

[pliant remnant]

So...you know where they come from.

))

[grim jay]

You cant exactly judge which they are by relying on the icon in most cases

[hot fulcrum]

True. But was wonder if this is an issue on raider (so they show wrong daggers) or there are other ways to get them (no only cache drop)

[hot fulcrum]

we have names on r.io

[pliant remnant]

Oh yeah, can we talk about how lazy Blizzard is with icons

[grim jay]

You went out of your way to check rio, alright

Truth be told

It doesnt matter which daggers you use

Not at all

[hot fulcrum]

ofc. I'm not trying to get the same gear, for sure. But was looking for other daggers not only from dungeon.
Have very bad luck with weapon drop in dungeons 🙂

[grim jay]

Dungeons are still your best bet

Or you just craft a mainhand

Which is equally valid

But I would just keep farming and only craft the last few pieces

[hot fulcrum]

going to wait with crafts atm)

[grim jay]

So you dont gamble on a few slots

[grim jay]

The 590 are basically free

No sparks used

[hot fulcrum]

oh. rly. I forgot about it (didn't know) bcz never crafted smth lower then aspect one 😅

[pliant remnant]

You probably coulda just had the Carver drop in the time you researched Whispyr's entire family history tbh

[hot fulcrum]

I'm waiting for my heal to get back home from dantist 🙂 Also I'm on vacation so have nothing to do

took vac for WW release because can't go to some other country 😦

[subtle tundra]

with deathspike

! ! !

[pliant remnant]

Too bad there's kinda fuck all to do for two weeks though

[spring sand]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[subtle tundra]

did you buy early access?

[royal lantern]

for the 3days until outlaw killed that one

[pliant remnant]

Forgive me, father, for I have sinned.

[subtle tundra]

i didnt and now i still have 2 alts to level

and gear

[robust river]

Rupture - combo points doesn’t matter for damage per second right? It just affects duration?

[royal lantern]

yes

[robust river]

Thanks. Just revising our rotation at work now I’m 80 😂

[grim jay]

You still dont finish any different than with envenom

[pliant remnant]

I mean I can still gear a lil and always level more alts, but doing HC for piss temporary gear gets old fast

[robust river]

CT just duration too?

[spice spire]

Yes

[hollow current]

Hey Guys do u recommend some macros ? Or where I can find good ones ^^

[robust river]

Sweet. So as Davyn mentioned, just Envemon that matters.

[royal lantern]

you still finish at the same points

[subtle tundra]

well i have to gear alts too cause they are going straight into hc splits on reset xd

[robust river]

At 6CP do we Mut for 7th? Or just send Env?

[royal lantern]

there are none, beyond the ussual "trinket+pot with main 2min CD"

[robust river]

Outside if death ark application

[royal lantern]

5+

[hollow current]

ah okay thx 😄

[robust river]

5+? Ok sweet. We have to have 7 for death mark reset right?
Do we force 7 during burst window (mark/bane)? Or still 5+

[cunning basin]

Only time you force 7 is for darkest night

[royal lantern]

no

its always 5+ unless you have the poopstalker capstone, then you force 7

[cunning basin]

God I love casting mutilate at 6 CP to make my hero talents work

[kind forge]

press poisoned knife

[robust river]

Feels so efficient. I assume refreshing garrotes pre pandemic isn’t more efficient?

[cunning basin]

No

[royal lantern]

ofc not

[royal lantern]

but THE FANTASY

dont you feel how HEROIC it is

[cunning basin]

It's such a cool name

And it's such... Not great gameplay

[unreal crater]

Has anyone else been using the plater profile made by Whispyr? Was curious if the HP bars are all supposed to turn purple in dungeons

[kind forge]

iirc it is added for mark

[pliant remnant]

Deathstalker is a fitting name because it makes me chase the idea of wanting to die

[gusty mirage]

Deathstinker

[unreal crater]

Yeahhhh I thought it was only supposed to turn purple if it had the mark, every dungeon I'm in every single nameplate has purple HP bars

[gusty mirage]

Poopstalker

Poopstinker

[pliant remnant]

hehe stinky

[gusty mirage]

[cunning basin]

named after forsaken dudes
No interaction with poisons whatsoever

[gusty mirage]

But it’s P L A G U E

[cunning basin]

Right right passive plague damage what was I THINKING?!