assassination

[feral mason]

this is what i will do to 4cp

[rotund oak]

laters ppl watching a german yapping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_if0HnJ1gE

[final star]

it's 1.5hrs

tl;dr just press button

saved

[feral mason]

just outdps sims on dummies

[final star]

light work

[feral mason]

it actually is since spatter is turbo bugged

doing like 2.1m while sim does 1.6

get rid of that and i do way lower though

[final star]

I think assa now oversims anyway because I can't do that damage in dungeons because I am dead on the floor

please implement my deaths into simc thank you

[feral mason]

normalize simc predicting aggro on big mob and oneshotting you with melee

[earnest remnant]

i actually hate you for that whispyr

that meme

needs to die

[balmy condor]

Guess we doin hate comments now

[earnest remnant]

my twitter feed is nothing

but that shit

[final star]

mine is onlyfans girls

we are not the same

[earnest remnant]

used to be 80% porn

now its just that meme

[final star]

now you want it back to porn

[earnest remnant]

honestly

[haughty flicker]

make a meme with it using porn

[final star]

crazy that you don't know what you got til it's gone

smh

[earnest remnant]

id rather look at them yeh

[final star]

[balmy condor]

Mine is 25% wow Twitter drama, 10% random worldstar-ass fight videos of people in the parking lot of a chick fil a, and the rest is porn

[royal lantern]

ah yes, the based usage of twitter

and the other 20% should be funny animal Pictures

[final star]

This is relatable

[earnest remnant]

i have waaay to many wow people blocked

[final star]

I saw a tweet about a guy getting kicked from heroics today

[earnest remnant]

its where i get all of my raccoon pictures from

[final star]

that was a banger

[balmy condor]

I didn’t want the porn I used to report it all the time now I’m just too defeated to fight it anymore as I doom scroll my 5th social media app of the day

[final star]

that's my instagram mostly

[earnest agate]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-kitten-orange-cat-cat-waddling-cat-waddle-waddling-kitten-gif-26256461

[balmy condor]

Did you ever find out how to recreate it

Is it just level scaling dungeons

Or open world jank

Or what

It’s always just worked for me

[robust river]

In AOE format, do we spread Garrote's post opener (assuming no vanish available)? Or just keep it up on Caustic mark and spread Rupture only?

Like should I be tabbing targets on Garrote CD?

[balmy condor]

Only keep up gar on your main target or if you really need the energy

[robust river]

Perfect, thanks

[devout parcel]

o/ we play with Crimson tempest ?

m+

[tropic tundra]

yeah

good damage

[devout parcel]

bummer

[tropic tundra]

ignore it on ST boss tho

just that

[woven shore]

@balmy condor thank you ALOT for you guides

[dense cloud]

is this possible to get in epic version? this shit is broken af

[woven shore]

i felt a little lost with Assa but now i feel like i know what im doing

again

[tropic tundra]

got that in blue, i believe you can upgrade it further

was from wq

[feral mason]

its dummies 100% of the time

and dungeons sometimes (but i think that may be more related to just pull size

[dense cloud]

i dont wanna upgrade explorer

xd

[final star]

yes, and it's actually not that strong

[devout parcel]

can someone copy their build for tww ? i'm going for m+, just got back to rogue and i cant find a tww guide for it

[lapis coral]

https://www.wowhead.com/de/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps

[devout parcel]

just need talents for now

o/

[woven shore]

is there a Weakaura which keeps track of Death stalkers mark ?

[tropic tundra]

ya that ones updated for release

just like all the other specs

[final star]

they are also in the threads in the pins

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1271649178778603541

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1271660967272386601

[golden spoke]

Which of 3 specs sims highest in ST?

[final star]

The one you're the best at

[balmy condor]

Hm ok I check tomorrow

[feral mason]

yeah dummies it still happens even after reset

other classes have similar issues (lightning rod shaman, psychic link) so probably something with damage distribution

[sullen hollow]

did anyone craft yet

[final star]

definitely not

[grim jay]

Still so many people hating on hero talents

Or on ours rather

[final star]

if it was any ambush and not from stealth

I'd prefer that thanks

[grim jay]

It would totally fuck the capstone

[feral mason]

its manageable with darkest night existing

[devout fiber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_if0HnJ1gE

guys im gna be real im not bothered to watch a whole 90m video

which one is the best talent

the bleed one?

energy one or?

[final star]

idk what the video

[rare jackal]

whats the output difference between fatebound and deathstalker in ST?

[final star]

psure it explains it

[feral mason]

shittalking a video just to ask something you could see on wowhead

[grim jay]

Could read a guide in 5 min then

[bright dew]

2-3%?

[devout fiber]

But the guide runs different talents to what he runs in the video

[rare jackal]

thanks

[final star]

could read the pins

[devout fiber]

so clearly not updated

[final star]

could read wowhead

could watch the video

[devout fiber]

Again he runs different talents to whats available

[final star]

all give the same answer

[whole sand]

it runs the hybrid talent build in the video

[final star]

crazy

[rare jackal]

look at the FAQ

[whole sand]

click further than quick guide

ffs

[feral mason]

yo @midnight mist fuck you bitch, what are the best talents for outlaw

type beat

[final star]

[grim jay]

He explains different talent options in his guide

[vestal wren]

let me see

[feral mason]

ly zac

[final star]

lil bro an ipad kid used to having the information handed to them, you hate to see it

[grim jay]

Say Apple, not ipad

[midnight mist]

KIRKIRKIRKIRCRACKCRACKCRACK

[grim jay]

We all hate the applers

[feral mason]

who let him out of his cage

wait me

mb

[midnight mist]

hello kieron

fancy seeing you here

[midnight mist]

i hope you are having a good day

[final star]

I'm pretty sure in 50-100 years people are not going to be able to write

only type

and that guy asking for talents has proved it's now

[midnight mist]

ye well whats the point of writting

in 2024

(this is a joke)

[feral mason]

i will still be writing fan letters to zeross in 50 years dw

[midnight mist]

anyway i disagree kieron

[feral mason]

he never replies though

[midnight mist]

just cause its way faster to write math stuffs with a pen

or like

draw bullshit

and writting anotations

and shit on it

very important !

[rare jackal]

how do i play rogue? (90 sec tiktoks only pls)

[final star]

it's all gonna be done on a screen with an e-pen

cmv

[feral mason]

need zac to do youtube short guides asap

[midnight mist]

ok but then you are still writting

just with an e pen

kekw

[feral mason]

zac is flurry damage on dummies also bugged or nah?

[midnight mist]

im good cuh

[midnight mist]

no idea

[feral mason]

all the damage sharing effects seem to be doing way too much damage on dummies

spatter doing double

[midnight mist]

you guys look too much at details on god

[feral mason]

only saw it because i was doing 500k more than sims

[midnight mist]

ye

exactly

i have no idea what outlaw is simming at

i have no idea what im simming at

all is irrelevant tim

just press button

do damaage

[feral mason]

cant sim acro dps loss

hes lost it

[grim jay]

Why do you do Tim like that now

[midnight mist]

i love tim

my brother name is tim

great name

[feral mason]

i am his brother

he juts doesnt know it

[midnight mist]

real

and true

[royal lantern]

wait what

are we the same person

[midnight mist]

idk

[royal lantern]

[midnight mist]

\is your name szac

[royal lantern]

no

[midnight mist]

then maybe not

sorry

[royal lantern]

what if it is the shizo hitting hard

[midnight mist]

@brave stump who are you hitting now

[brave stump]

We fighting @royal lantern ?

im always up for it

[final star]

just change it to where it doesn't feel shit

wth

[wide ferry]

realized i wasnt in OL i saw zac and just assumed haha

[midnight mist]

yo

its me

[final star]

yeah his brainrot has extended

since he's forced into playing other specs

[midnight mist]

idk i have been a sin main since cata

its well known by now

[final star]

you started playing in shadowlands

[midnight mist]

so ?

[final star]

[midnight mist]

dont be weird kieron ..

[rare jackal]

why is deathstalker superior in m+ over fatebound?

[final star]

it does more damage

[midnight mist]

purple > coin

or so i heard

now if the coins wehre purple1

!

we could talk

[rare jackal]

makes sense, i hate crypto so i wouldnt play it anyways

[midnight mist]

ye right

same bro same

[royal lantern]

yes

you, me, in my bed, no clothing allowed

1hour

[autumn folio]

Is there a specific pact I should choose as assa rogue? The Weaver, The General or The Vizier?

[brave stump]

it will be between the eyes tho before i dispatch

[dense kernel]

its just for rep and zone nothing in the dungeons or raid as far as i know

[devout fiber]

The guide pins on the Talent tree for assass

[onyx mesa]

Does Hallowfall offer more weekly rep? just wondering where I should dump my rep focus, people saying you get a lot from the light event

[devout fiber]

for the bleed pins

it goes left

but the video's bleed

talent

goes right

[strange python]

Any of the darkmoon trinkets worth it rn?

[whole sand]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps

scroll

[devout fiber]

why tf would i sit through a 90m video. If anything the video is bad for not clearly outlining which is the best talent

[sturdy mesa]

What if it was a tiktok video with subway surfer above the 90 min video

[robust river]

Slice&Dice - Does it matter how many CP we use this on? I assume I shouldn't be trying to 5+CP it since it gets refreshed by other stuff now?

[vagrant maple]

hit stuff once, s&d, never worry about it again

[robust river]

Thought so, thanks!

[devout parcel]

is darkest night talent infinite application ?

[ivory flower]

If it wasn't bugged yeah

Don't use it on targets that would die if you envenom with 7cp

Rn I play double vanish in dungeons cuz bugs and tanks chainpulling

[robust river]

Don't tell Whispyr 👀

[whole sand]

yeah you can't say that in here

[wide ferry]

For the Bleed build, anything we can replace to take art precision?

[whole sand]

think it has to be lightweight shiv

[wooden timber]

hi i have 3 maybe stupid questions but i did read the guide before asking i swear

1. do you care about current garrote duration when doing vanish before death mark to apply improved garrote or do you just send it right before death mark even if you had to apply regular garrote very recently? or do you want to let bad garrote fall off on purpose for a few seconds if thatd happen?

2. in aoe is spreading ruptures/garrotes past the point where they give you energy/agi useful damage wise if you dont have any cds up in any situation ever or is it better to just spam envenom with caustic spatter no matter what as long as you have enough bleeds for agi/energy?

3. this segment in the image means it turns 1 garrote into 2 and not duplicates 2 into 4 right? im pretty sure it does but the wording is vague enough to ask for confirmation that theres no way to stack regular and improved garrote now or something crazy like that

[ivory flower]

I know xd but could be nice if blibli could fix at least the bug on ER for MM+

[spring prawn]

so, were playing aug evo, assa rogue, veng dh, heal drood... waht are some good fits for the last dps slot going into m+? didnt play any df so idk about target caps and all that about all the classes

[indigo mulch]

Did they fix the ER bug? 😮

[onyx mesa]

Mage or Spriest

[onyx rock]

How long is it ok to hold Deathmark for Vanish+Garrote ?

[spring prawn]

assuming frost? arcane/fire are pretty prio dmg oriented aswell right

[dusty zenith]

Real question is why whispyrs hair not the same color as his discord avatar

[raven egret]

Not that I know of, they never even acknowledged if it is a bug or not

[iron valve]

It's not, improved garrote is a relatively small part of deathmarks power. If you haven't saved vanish for DM, just send DM

[onyx mesa]

the amount arcane is doing ST right now... almost worth just bringing them for bosses hahaha but all carry a shield and amazing utility, I think fire is underperforming last I checked, so yea frost would be your best bet for overall dungeon dmg I think cause arcane aoe pretty poop

[indigo mulch]

That's a bit disturbing D;

[raven egret]

Am I winning the MMO game, dads?

[royal lantern]

cus he dyed it at some point into Something different...?

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[indigo mulch]

What is this green thing your showing

[onyx mesa]

carpet but outside

[indigo mulch]

I've seen pictures online about it before but i've never actually seen or touch it before.

[spice spire]

Don’t worry about it kitten

[raven egret]

I don't know either, it's disturbing

[onyx mesa]

Real life, poor graphics and terrible playerbase, stay indoors

[indigo mulch]

Kitten? D; I'm pretty sure i'm older than you youngling!

[raven egret]

Last time I tried multiplayer at real life, it ended badly. Wouldn't recommend nor play again~

[indigo mulch]

I was forced into a permenant lobby with this person. She keeps calling herself my wife but i have my doubts.

[spice spire]

It’s okay kitten

[indigo mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/kimmoli-gif-25370538

[iron valve]

1. I'm assuming you're talking about a regular unimproved garrote? don't worry about the existing garrote, just send it. the duration will pandemic and increase the duration of the improved garrote. it's better to partially an unimproved garrote than have to reapply during deathmark
2. yes, if there's enough targets out that you are energy saturated with rupture and have max scent of blood stacks (5+) then you'll get more damage out of maintaining those bleeds + crimson tempest and pumping caustic envenoms / kingsbane rather than bleeding more targets, since there's more enemies to hit
   IC changes this math somewhat because you can bleed 3 people at a time
3. I don't know why it's worded like that, it just means both the regular garrote and the DM duplicate have the damage bonus from improved garrote

[wooden timber]

yeah just regular unimproved

[onyx rock]

So just use DM on cooldown no matter what ?

[wooden timber]

unsure if its better to replace with a different builder if id overwrite it fast anyway

or if i just press it and overwrite it 5s later

also ty ty

[raven egret]

Generally yes, unless your targets are almost dead for example in a M+ and a boss is coming up, keep it for the boss

[onyx rock]

Yes sure ! Thank you

[raven egret]

Another note, more important is to pick the best target for DM/ KB; high health tanky mobs that will live the duration. In a raid fight that usually isn't an issue, so talking mainly M+

This gets the most out of the CDs and provides better spatter targets.

[iron valve]

I don't know for sure, tbh. I believe you'd still maintain garrote even if you're going to clip it with improved garrote, because you want the extra pandemic duration for the imp garrote plus the damage / energy regen in the meantime

[wooden timber]

ty

also for 2) i meant if theres no kingsbane or anything

[weak cypress]

Do we have a pre bis for pre season

[wooden timber]

assume envenom > extra dots still but want to make sure

[gloomy otter]

anyone got a poison reminder WA for me?

[wooden timber]

since i havent played this sprc before

[raven egret]

Ilvl

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[weak cypress]

More referring to like trinkets and you can craft purp weps rn

[raven egret]

Same answer, Ilvl. Almost all of it will be slated for replacement asap as soon as season starts

I wouldn't waste any resources crafting at this point

[weak cypress]

I mean I’m not tryna get carried in m0 because everyone else in the group prepared for it

[raven egret]

Only craft possible is 590 weathered crest- you can get full set of adventurer that can go to 593 and several Veteran pieces

[devout parcel]

in a pack of 10 mobs without garrot, if i use garrot and it spreads, will next garrot cast choose remaining mobs or it can spread to the same targets ?

[whole sand]

if you want to spend your spark on anything probably do it on an embellishment off piece, wrists/belt/boots

[devout parcel]

assuming we have the invise buff thingy

[raven egret]

My answer isn't gonna change, you want Ilvl, main stat, stam.

[raven egret]

Even then, better to hold off imo, but it is a personal choice

[devout parcel]

why do people say assassination is hard then ? last time i played it was BFA and it seems a lot easier

good question, i'm guessing a bunch of morons

[raven egret]

I don't know who "they" are but generally speaking Sin isn't something most players can just pick up and understand

A non rogue reading our talent trees would be hard pressed to tell you what the hell the spec is supposed to do

[weak cypress]

Ass does have a interesting opener and a interesting way to aoe vs other classes are mostly point and shoot

[whole sand]

in DF it had some really janky kingsbane shit that they nerfed out, it wasn't really difficult, it was just a lot of silly timing stuff

[devout parcel]

alright what'

[whole sand]

it kinda got a lot of its name from that

[raven egret]

Pretty much that

[devout parcel]

what's the hardest thing you would say about assa at its current state

[raven egret]

Pooling for those that don't even know the concept of it 😂

[weak cypress]

Seems like fate bound is gonna be the better option for early keys then death stalker for higher keys

[whole sand]

its a spec where you can bleed yourself of resources if you're not paying attention, you won't see any of that rn because of fight length

[devout parcel]

i jsut read it once, but isnt the whole thing like maxing combo and pressing envenom to reapply ?

[faint path]

Hybrid or bleed for heroic dungeons? what u guys prefer

[raven egret]

I prefer the word 'functional' but yeah, same difference

[devout parcel]

never liked abmush to be fair

[weak cypress]

You could take 2 vanish

[raven egret]

No.

[devout parcel]

naaaaaaaaah it lines up perfectly with death mark as it is

dont screw it

[raven egret]

We need a ! vanish command to explain it reliably 😂

[weak cypress]

But if they tank keeps pulling

[spice spire]

Apparently evens out to like two

So like people need to realize

[raven egret]

Two vanishes wouldn't do anything even then. Just keep moving~ and yeah what Avih said

[weak cypress]

You really don’t even need stealth

[whole sand]

2 vanish charges =/= 1 min vanish

[spice spire]

They don’t go on separate cooldowns. You have to wait 90 seconds, then an additional two minutes

[devout parcel]

rogue now seems exactly like before man, it's the same thing to be fair, keeping up garrot and rupture, crimson, dumping on envenom and keep the buff, slight difference, that bomb thingy i guess will naturally occure because i find it hard that we dont multilate the target even once

do we still fan of knives to get combo ?

[raven egret]

Wdym we don't mutilate, spatter!

[weak cypress]

In aoe yea

[devout parcel]

no i just said it wrong, got it

[raven egret]

Don't you take my spatter away 😢

[devout parcel]

last time for me was in Motherlode dungeon, had the best time of my life with it

[fringe lily]

Why are you saying we don't muti?

Need to spatter

[devout parcel]

i'm not sayign we dont, jsut saying it seems we always have the spatter debuff on enemy without paying attention to it

honestly do i even need to track the debuff ?

[fringe lily]

Only if it's a big enemy that lasts for long

[weak cypress]

Well you gotta put it on someone bc if not your missing out on dmg

[raven egret]

I mean it's 10s, and if you swap target you want to also swap spatter. If you can track that independently have at it. Tracking it on current target is safety

[devout parcel]

ah there was 1 thing new to me, a debuff kept getting stack and dumpign with multilate i dont remember it, how about that one ? occurs naturally or needs tracking ?

[weak cypress]

Using Mutilate on a target afflicted by your Rupture and Deadly Poison applies Caustic Spatter for 10 sec. Limit 1

[devout parcel]

no not this

it consumed up to 10 stacks with envenom

i said multilate mistakenly

[raven egret]

Amplifying

[devout parcel]

i guess so, needs tracking ?

[raven egret]

No

[glossy remnant]

whoever wrote the apl for assa, hats down 🙂

[devout parcel]

what about that seratted bone spike ?

there's not much left to be honest it's the same rogue as in bfa

[royal lantern]

huh

[weak cypress]

Bone spike is 🙌

[royal lantern]

??????

[raven egret]

Wut....?

[devout parcel]

i'm still 70 keep in mind

[raven egret]

Not my no dust they didn't 😂

[devout parcel]

i completely forgot about death mark and kingsbane xD but honestly outside of these two, there's not much changed since then

shiv i guess

[raven egret]

Outside of the two most important buttons we have now...?

[devout parcel]

yea it's pretty easy to pick up

[winged sun]

im an assa player now

The upcoming assa master

[raven egret]

Thank you for your service, fellow ass player

[candid hull]

anyone have a plater mod/script to show the target with deathstalker's mark

Like a border color change for example

[devout parcel]

ah tell me this, shiv must be used on CD ?

[whole sand]

maybe check the guide

[placid adder]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[devout parcel]

it does line

[chilly glen]

Hello, new assa player there, any tip about best poisont to equip? if i can have 2 and 4

[devout parcel]

alright bed time, thank you guys o/

[normal mist]

!poisons

[rotund oak]

deadly and amp

[normal mist]

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[chilly glen]

oh thanks guys

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[royal lantern]

with double vanish?

[winged sun]

Ya why

[sturdy stirrup]

is this thing important

[raven egret]

Wait what, no, no double vanish, just no

[royal lantern]

proving once again that m+ is just "slam keys 14hours a day"

[winged sun]

[raven egret]

Only if you want the rewards of one of them in particular first

[winged sun]

Im coming for everybody’s logs

If ur a logger beware

[sturdy stirrup]

[spice spire]

!dn

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
  Echoing Reprimand....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
  But the 3rd cp or something?
• Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
  Does Blizzard know?
• There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.

[spice spire]

Neat

[grim jay]

Ass Master, but not the rogue kind

[spice spire]

Hi

[winged sun]

Hi

[spice spire]

Oh fuck

[grim jay]

Hi georgeous

[spice spire]

I can’t mute him these days

Fuck

But also wb mister zeross (I think it was military service?) either way I hope your break was good for you king

[grim jay]

Is zeross related to the streamer

Mr Z?

[winged sun]

Ty ty, im still in the army i just finished the tough part

Got 2 months left then i can play everyday

[spice spire]

I’m glad to hear that you’re getting back to it though

[final star]

so you're missing prog

[winged sun]

Yah

Im not gonna raid for 7 more months

Cuz i have to wake up 3-4 am after 2 months so its about same schedule

[spice spire]

That’s okay dog

[winged sun]

I just can go home everyday tho

[winged sun]

Unless i find a super early raiding guild

For just a few months only then leave

[final star]

[midnight mist]

hello guys !

[winged sun]

Im just in the phase of reworking my entire ui now

Gonna be fully ready in 7 months

[midnight mist]

is this where all the ass masters are

i too wanna be an ass master

[winged sun]

Best time to lvl/learn alts now so im gonna do that

[winged sun]

Ya

Ass master Zeross here

[brave stump]

oh no it's Z&Z better hide

[winged sun]

Zac

[grim jay]

zZ

[winged sun]

Wanna be an ass theorycrafter

[midnight mist]

holy

[winged sun]

We can explore ass’es and how we can make ass better

[midnight mist]

theorycrafting on the ass !

[sharp sand]

yo guys whats the bis dungeon trinkets we can get right now?

[brave stump]

I bet noone did these jokes before

[winged sun]

[grim jay]

They are totally new

Unexplored

[rotund oak]

deathstalker is ahead for sub in ST

its taking over

my dream is realized

[grim jay]

Wdym is ahead not

[brave stump]

Outlaw's have freetime to chat while they're stuck in KS animation

[grim jay]

Ah alright

[raven egret]

You dream of death destruction and despair?

[rotund oak]

t9 auto correct^^

[grim jay]

Yeah already said that before, deathboi taking over, the only real hero tree

[rotund oak]

i knew it man

im so happy

[midnight mist]

im procrastinating working rn

[brave stump]

same

i could game when i just finish this, but i rather sit in here in type random shit

lets go

[midnight mist]

i need to do a presentation on something tommorow, that i had 4 months to do

and i just started

how will it go

i wonder

[grim jay]

Whispyr said "deathstalker feels so amazing on dummies, pls fix ER blizz" or something earlier. We are close to aknowledgement

[brave stump]

just improvise with some good looking pictures

[raven egret]

Do you have acro at work? Cause it might be a reach to expect good results~

[rotund oak]

actually watched whispyr streaming

[midnight mist]

all good

[rotund oak]

the man has moves

[midnight mist]

im not expecting anything

[raven egret]

Hey I still think the initial mark application shouldn't be stealth required, and especially not ambush. Small thing but personal wish regardless

[midnight mist]

it should just be garrote lmao

[winged sun]

[midnight mist]

someone smoked hard at blizzard when they made it ambush only

well it work fine for sub i guess thats as far as they went

sin was an aftertought

[rotund oak]

10/10 sht has to change

cringe AF

but its getting there,sub got some srs buffs

deathstalker pushing the dam

[royal lantern]

but leveling is dead now

you need 7seconds now for a dungeon boss instead of 3

[midnight mist]

well that soudns like double the time to me

gg

[robust river]

Blizz selling p2w exp boost (early access) 😦 RIP

[grim jay]

More importantly the duration of darkest night should be higher.

[raven egret]

DS is one of the only hero tree with such a possible fail state, it's just weird. All trees can generally be activated rotationally, or passively at minimum. DS? Nah be in true stealth

[grim jay]

Please dont start any degen discussions

[raven egret]

Yep, 100%

[grim jay]

Thats beyond stupid

[mystic mirage]

hello

[rotund oak]

hi fren

[raven egret]

New dungeons all have enough downtime periods to make us lose DN, and always lose our Fatebound coin buff

[mystic mirage]

whats the best talent for dongeon heroic

[dull cloak]

what's DN

[mystic mirage]

i mean for AOE

[humble valley]

Darkest Night

[rotund oak]

darkest night,deathstalker's final node

[raven egret]

Darkest Night, Deathstalker capstone

[daring gorge]

I'm a little bit confused. Raidbots is telling me to fully go on haste, am i missing something? 😄

[rotund oak]

everything is on the guide friend

[spice surge]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[grim jay]

Yeah thats kinda something annoying, but doesnt really bother me that much considering it should usually work out just fine

[royal lantern]

i mean, almost all of them are horrible anyway

[mystic mirage]

wow head go for one vanish

and i have a friend who said double vanish is the goat

[raven egret]

Agreed, just thinking that they might as well fix that when they look at ambush as our activator

[mystic mirage]

should i go with wow head

[normal mist]

na

go with your friend

the guidewriter

[royal lantern]

tell your friend that he is stupid

[void mesa]

[rotund oak]

dont get me wrong but ill get whispyr above your friend any day of the week

[mystic mirage]

thx mate

so i go with wow head guide

❤️

[raven egret]

That looks like bait. Is this bait? Sounds like bait.

[normal mist]

Unless hes talking PvP, then yes 2 vanish

[mystic mirage]

no not a biat

[rotund oak]

ahhahaha

[mystic mirage]

im just confused

[rotund oak]

savage

[mystic mirage]

🙂

he is indeed stupid but im more stupid cause i folow him

[rotund oak]

you can always ask here friend

[raven egret]

Well then; HELL no.

[rotund oak]

plenty of ppl to help

[raven egret]

We friendly rogues

[feral mason]

damn dude embellishes are weak this season

[rotund oak]

arent those bugged

[grim jay]

No u

[feral mason]

dawnthread at 590 gives less than bsl at like 486

[rotund oak]

kekw

real?

[grim jay]

Yeah they gotta buff them

Imo

[rotund oak]

[feral mason]

i have two of em

pretty sure bsl last season x2 gave 1900

[raven egret]

I want them to buff pocket grenades. Make the silly embellishments bis

[rotund oak]

ye last season bsl was 2.1

but close enough

[mystic mirage]

thanks rogue mates for help

❤️

[feral mason]

better than nothing still

[grim jay]

I want them to fix the dagger ngl

[feral mason]

but yeah its awk

[royal lantern]

allright

2nd vanish is throwing 4 talent points away for literally nothing

subterfuge has no gain for assa, it does nothing

the heal node is very very very very VERY Situational at best

and the "2nd vanish" is a 2nd CHARGE of vanish, aka you have 1-2 more uses in a dungeon because its still a normal 2min cd, and on a raidboss literally only 1 additonal use

you throw away 4 talent points to use vanish 1x more often in a dungeon/boss fight, now ask yourself if that is a good choice (hint, its not, literally picking 4 other random nodes is better)

[raven egret]

Oh dear mother of weapon RNG gods yes, that attack speed is unreal

[spice surge]

Pretty sure they still give the same stats at 590 as they do on 636

[feral mason]

what

oh yeah you're right lmao it gives the exact same on my 583 one as on 590 one

[mystic mirage]

i see

[grim jay]

Definitely looks like an oversight. Effect dagger with embellishment just sounds kinda cool. Can craft it early for MH ilvl and just switch it to offhand as you get a mythic track one

[royal lantern]

can they buff it pls

i went small weapons as prof

:3

[dapper cradle]

watching whispyr's m+ video rn

[haughty flicker]

Surely they notice the dagger is the wrong speed

Surely

[dapper cradle]

with a breakfast sandwich

life is good bro

[raven egret]

There's just no way they introduce a dagger with such a... Frankly baffling flaw

[spice surge]

Theres like no embellishments that work as they should anyway so

[feral mason]

beta testing is useful

[raven egret]

Hell even the sparks have a tooltip different than the actual crafts ilvls

[haughty flicker]

Ready for release

[raven egret]

I reported it so many times

[haughty flicker]

Surely they’ll get fixed before season starts

[feral mason]

btw i know its ass but a movement trinket is funny as hell

priests about to start using it just so they can follow packs

[haughty flicker]

That + the candle for my speed set

Op

[raven egret]

I have it right now and it's 🤣

[feral mason]

st actually isnt half bad

[raven egret]

Works our in current meme dungeons

[feral mason]

but aoe its full split so

pretty piss

[royal lantern]

what if @spice spire is in the group and i charge at him?

[raven egret]

Still 1m DMG youd not do otherwise, so you'll take it and bzz bzz

[feral mason]

i mean 1 envenom now does a mill

on aoe

if not more

[raven egret]

Shhh

Accept the bees in your life

[placid adder]

Zoomin

[grim jay]

Bee + the fenrir trinket for farming

[raven egret]

Meanwhile, every time they try to make wacky trinket effects, yet we just keep going for the "gain x mastery for y secs"

We basic trinket users

[clever sapphire]

trinkets like that are made for the outluls

[ripe umbra]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[grim jay]

I highly dislike minigame trinkets

Those shouldnt be a thing at all

[raven egret]

Another expansion where Darkmoon decks will be irrelevant. Good try in making them an embellishment I suppose

[grim jay]

I think thats a pretty interesting one

But they would need to be stupid good

To be worth a trinket slot and an embell

[oblique tangle]

I'm confused. Is bubbling wax not worth using???

[grim jay]

No

[oblique tangle]

It seems great for aoe clear

[grim jay]

But it isnt better than the options

[oblique tangle]

The other options of? All I know of are the whetstones

[raven egret]

Use em whenever you want to do stuff that doesn't warrant wasting real weapon buffs

Aka; said whetstones

[nova aspen]

might be nice in delves

[oblique tangle]

So just so I understand here

5 mobs being hit by superpowered bubbling wax

Is worse than a whetstone

[raven egret]

We already have to carry Bran's ass in those!

[grim jay]

Seemingly

[raven egret]

Super powered is... Not a term I would use for it. But yeah, close enough explanation of the situation

[oblique tangle]

I mean it amps damage based on enemies hit so

It would definitely be suped up

[royal lantern]

wdym irrelevant

they played a big part in making disenchanting worthless on day2 of the expansions

[haughty flicker]

the deck scammers in dragonflight deserve it

[grim jay]

But you enchanters got weapon oil now

[raven egret]

I... Got nothing. Touché, sir, accurate

[haughty flicker]

i hope darkmoon decks are never relevant

[grim jay]

Its a give and take

[royal lantern]

is anyone even gonna use it

[grim jay]

Idk tbf

I didnt take a look at consumeables

Other than alchemy

Yet

[raven egret]

Someone must, maybe. Inscription is out of the weapon buff business, oils got to be good for... Someone.

[tough canyon]

!dn

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
  Echoing Reprimand....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
  But the 3rd cp or something?
• Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
  Does Blizzard know?
• There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.

[grim jay]

Playing er without the other talent feels really weird ngl

[clever sapphire]

i really hope one day im gonna type !dn and there will be a deez nuts joke

[nova aspen]

i see some class hotfixes happened last night

[tough canyon]

well first blizzard has to fix some bugs. so maybe never

[raven egret]

Hot take, (more like casual take), ER should come with the 3 charged node in a single package capstone 1 pointer.

[nova aspen]

i wonder if we were in there

i cant check at work

https://www.wowhead.com/news/war-within-hotfixes-for-august-27th-class-and-quest-bug-fixes-346221?utm_source=discord-webhook

[potent raven]

where did the roles gooo

[grim jay]

Sub was

[tough canyon]

only Resolved a timing issue where Deathstalker’s Mark applied from Stealth or Shadow Dance was being overwritten by Deathstalker’s Mark applied by an active Darkest Night.

[grim jay]

New roles soon

[clever sapphire]

thats the same as the old bonespike take, where we should have gotten it with the 5 charges and 2 extra spikes

[potent raven]

wtf

give me kingsbane role back 😡

[tough canyon]

nothing for us

[clever sapphire]

there ya go

the fixes you were hoping for

right?

[nova aspen]

[raven egret]

Join me in the anti dust movement

[buoyant verge]

!dn

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
  Echoing Reprimand....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
  But the 3rd cp or something?
• Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
  Does Blizzard know?
• There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.

[potent raven]

deez nuts

i love shadowdust

[grim jay]

Anti dust movement is close to succeeding. DS sims really similar on brew and dust

And is now the better pick on ST

[potent raven]

sub will be the strongest spec and itll be played with dust

trust

[raven egret]

And my happiness is rising. Dust is the reason my name in here is now fully Red after all!

[tough canyon]

if outlaw stays @ #1 its just rip

anything but pls not outlaw

[raven egret]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-war-hammer-40k-gif-9829547

[grim jay]

I like dust if its used as it is currently. CDs just need to be equalized

[potent raven]

in what world outlaw will ever be better in raid

or dungeons

[grim jay]

Would first need to be no1

To be able to stay there

[potent raven]

if you play outlaw during prog u will wake up in jigsaw basement just how it is

[tough canyon]

well only sims say outlaw is no1 atm but things will change 1000 time before mythic opening

[grim jay]

Sims dont reflect the actual content

[potent raven]

it always oversims

[grim jay]

It quite frequently sims highest

[potent raven]

outlaw

[clever perch]

Guys one question

is tier disabled 100% right now?

[potent raven]

not for me

[clever sapphire]

boi outlaw was like the highest simming spec in S3 and it was doing none of that in raid

[clever perch]

its supposed to get fixed today but not sure if they added it yet

[grim jay]

Check ingame. People said no

[tough canyon]

isnt worth it anyway if you got 571 pieces

[grim jay]

They didnt fix the scaling either

From what ive heard

[clever perch]

i dont

[raven egret]

I mean their plan is to scale the mobs up.... Meaning level 70s will still omegaslap. Meaning this will change very little XD

[tough canyon]

true that

[grim jay]

Theyd basically need to more than double the mobs at lv 70

[tough canyon]

i guess just check ingame. if it still works sim it but i guess in most cases more ilvl will be better because of much more hp

[strange python]

Loving my Sin rogue so far.

[tough canyon]

ye its fun to play

[strange python]

It’s my first rogue boosted toon

[raven egret]

Sin rogue best rogue

[strange python]

Had no idea how to play it either

Now I’m starting to grasp it lol

[soft dew]

has anyone done any theorycrafting on what trinkets are good pre raid?

[grim jay]

If they nerf sin on aoe I hope they do it right, else it might just get pretty bad in St aswell

[strange python]

Man I hope they don’t nerf it

[raven egret]

Farm M0 on day 1 of season and get skardyn

[strange python]

When does Season 1 come? I’m still leveling through the campaign. And only like 505 ilvl

[tough canyon]

1 on use stat trinket+ the one from first boss ara kara

[grim jay]

It really starts on the 17th/18th

[violet berry]

Sep 10

[strange python]

Oh so I have time.

[raven egret]

Let's not curse us, we already have to assemble exodia compared to ret pallies to do our stuff, let us do the DPS!

[strange python]

Not huge key or raid person but I want to be this expansion.

I don’t need bis

But I’d like to have a decent enough I lvl

[soft dew]

just outlaw isnt the better spec

[grim jay]

Most people wont play it even if it is

Also depends on how much better

[rotund oak]

dont wanna repeat a clise or anything

but outlaw so dead

[raven egret]

I'll never main outlaw, those dices can go to the deepest pit of hell and never return

[rotund oak]

it needs a priest for the last rites

[raven egret]

Good, I'll dance around it's ashes

[grim jay]

Outlaw already loses 40% dps bcs of acro ive heard

No uptime in reality

[rotund oak]

outlaw needs a rework

realistically after a week testing on ptr some stuff

its screaming problems

[strange python]

Sub is prolly best spec

It was in DF

[raven egret]

Rogues just need some love, just a bit here and there, just a little bit of attention

[rotund oak]

that doesnt mean its now though

[strange python]

Yeah

[grim jay]

It needs jesus

They need to revert it to combat

[strange python]

Had no idea what I was getting into when I boosted my sin rogue. But I’m glad I did

[rotund oak]

😂

[grim jay]

If it was combat again, we might even see new people

[strange python]

Servers are down sad day

[clever sapphire]

if they only fixed the ER bug for deathstalker i would be much more happy already

[raven egret]

Diet Warriors were popular

[clever sapphire]

i dont ask for much

[buoyant verge]

This, so a single-handed monkey can play it again while juggling a banana on its head

[rotund oak]

thats what we are fighting for behind our keyboards fam

[strange python]

I have a laptop lol

[iron valve]

rework outlaw into a bard augmenter spec :^)

[strange python]

Well technically still have a keyboard

[raven egret]

I summarize it thus; just fix Deathstalker XD

[rotund oak]

make outlaw a tank

[raven egret]

Get out.

[strange python]

lol

[grim jay]

Not much different from now, but it had more appeal for new people because it didnt even read complicated and wasnt as high apm for the boomers that think anything in WoW is high apm

[raven egret]

I prefer combat medic spec for rogue, full healer with bandages!

[strange python]

XD

[fresh kelp]

keep outlaw as is (but bug fix)

[rotund oak]

keep outlaws out of this sacred channel

[strange python]

Make outlaw more like an assassin creed rogue

[clever sapphire]

outlaw gonna single handedly up the rogue deaths because of killing spree and the loss of acro, i called it first (i did not)

[rotund oak]

hello hello 4 months ago

[clever sapphire]

well ye thats true, and rework fatebound

[iron valve]

rework outlaw to assassination

[tough canyon]

just delete outlaw rogue only needs 2 speccs like dh

[buoyant verge]

So they're gonna spread a bunch of haystacks everywhere?

[tropic cedar]

Killing Spree staying true to its name

[clever sapphire]

ah you already did? feck

[rotund oak]

yup

[lyric glen]

make combat rogue great again

[clever sapphire]

there edited

[strange python]

I mean it’s better than the pirate aesthetic

Can’t even drive a ship

Come on now

[umbral fern]

what weapons are those

[tropic cedar]

this exists

it's called fury warrior

[strange python]

How long are servers down for?

[regal solar]

Raidbot keep siming the pvp insignia 590 to best dps up, it is really the case for pve tho ?

[strange python]

2 hours?

[raven egret]

Does anyone un ironically likes the dices? Like for real? And how? And why?!?

[lyric glen]

2 hours since blizzard does outages during primary business hours unlike literally every other large internet operation

[distant plinth]

Craftes 590 wep

[strange python]

Sad

[rotund oak]

get an adventurer wpn and upgrade to 593,be the chad

[strange python]

What’s everyone’s favorite zone and story so far?

[royal lantern]

i like the nerubian zone

[rotund oak]

its called azj-kahet mr habibi

[raven egret]

Azj Kahet

[strange python]

I haven’t gotten there yet.

Im still in Hallowfall

And I really like it so far

[royal lantern]

bad with names, dont kill me please

[regal solar]

it was my first adventurer drop

[rotund oak]

ill love u for all eternity

[rotund oak]

sus enchant but ggs

[strange python]

My boy Anduin bouta get the light back

[raven egret]

I'm Chad, I did that

[rotund oak]

[strange python]

Mans look rough

[regal solar]

Enchant are expensive

[rotund oak]

have a mage alt bruh

😉

[strange python]

Anduin looks like he just got out of a concentration camp

[royal lantern]

allready droppin on EU tbh, the secondary stat enchants on rank1 quality are like, 4k

[rotund oak]

anduin and faerlin having lightbabies

[strange python]

I felt that!

[clever sapphire]

anduin looks like that paladin that joins your weekly key that manages to stand out of range as a ret pala and die to a frontal

[regal solar]

Is it worth to have 2 good weapons or just Main hand is ok

[strange python]

I’d assume two good weapons

We aren’t protection rogues lol

[tough canyon]

offhand is just stats

[regal solar]

i got this in second weap

[rotund oak]

MH is the most dmg

[clever sapphire]

main hand is most important, offhand is whatever

[raven egret]

Main hand > off hand but still get two good weapons

Just always put your best one in MH

[strange python]

So after I finish the campaign. Do I need to spam dungeons to get better gear?

[tough canyon]

trinkets are better to farm/upgrade

[regal solar]

I try to sim for a gear to craft 590 but i'm lost

[dapper cradle]

anduin broke free from the goon cave

[arctic venture]

Sin is the best spec for now?

[dapper cradle]

he was getting edged

[keen viper]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[royal lantern]

had to lead the alliance as a 18y old that literally just lost his father (and has no parents now) during a world ending event

then had to lead armys trought a world war as a 19y old

abducted and physically and mentally tortured for a full year

then mindcontrolled and forced to hurt/kill people while at the same time feeling a sick satisfaction and not knowing if that was a part of the mindcontroll or his actual feelings

~5years alone on the road trying to deal with his PTSD from that experience

the guy went trought ALLOT for somebody in his mid 20s

[nova aspen]

so its basically just a stat stick

[raven egret]

Yet all he needed was a rando coming up and say "yo it's ok"

[clever sapphire]

dungeons are your best bet for gear ye, there is some 564 gear in the AH also if you wanna buy it

or world quests

[strange python]

Yeah I’ll look into it

[nova aspen]

it still has an insane amount of agility, so its better to upgrade over armor pieces

[strange python]

I still have time before the first season drops

[dusty zenith]

Just bring back Arthas already Jesus

[clever sapphire]

you have a lot of time so no need to worry

[strange python]

So in order to get sojourner of isle of dorn you need to finish Hallowfall and then finish ringing deeps

[clever sapphire]

im just logging on to do the weekly and thats it

[strange python]

Doesn’t make sense

[regal solar]

my feets give 500 agi more than oh, same ilvl

[royal lantern]

yes, cus weapons are 2slots

[nova aspen]

op feet

[royal lantern]

^

mainhand>trinkets>all other slots>>>>>offhand

[nova aspen]

[safe sand]

crafting daggers a good idea?

[tropic cedar]

is bubbling wax looking to be good for us in MH?

[iron valve]

not as good as runes, but free and better than nothing

[hollow stone]

if you craft the blue gear and use weathered crests, go ahead and craft w/e you want (up to 590)

[tropic cedar]

been farming some just in case

[tropic cedar]

thanks

[hollow stone]

dont use your spark next week tho

just the blue crafted gear that you can crest to 590

[nova aspen]

i plan to use some for delving

[tropic cedar]

was thinking of using mine for heroics yea

[nova aspen]

but runes in content that matters

like high keys or guild raiding

[tropic cedar]

i always do a run through the waterworks when im nearby

good to know its not bis tho

[raven egret]

whetstones** but yes

[royal lantern]

no

[dusty zenith]

Anyone leveling alchemy?

[rotund oak]

its not that bad but aint rly crazy either,sesason pops u gonna do keys anyway before going into raid so its up to ur personal minmaxing

[rotund oak]

yes

[woven shore]

Is fatebound or Deathstalker stronger in single target ?
which one is stronger for raid ?

any idea

[dusty zenith]

What are you putting points into

[rotund oak]

deathstalker

[strange python]

What are the best professions for a sin rogue?

[kind forge]

i mean - its not like consumables matter that much right since in heroics everything instantly explodes anyway

[strange python]

Skinning + leatherworking?

[rotund oak]

im putting them into flasks but its not optimal,im doing it for my guild

[royal lantern]

there are no best

[rotund oak]

u want alchemical mastery 1st

[royal lantern]

profs are gold making

nothing else

[dusty zenith]

Yeah I was thinking the same, I love the extended flask duration

[woven shore]

because it gives 100% crits to envenom? and the bonus damage

i feel like this fatebound thing deals so much dmg sometimes

[tropic cedar]

well yea sure, but its free, so why not?

[royal lantern]

"blacksmith/tailoring/leatherworking too make my own armor!!!" is a dead concept anyway, because the modern crafting system doesnt work that way lol

[clever sapphire]

wdym alchemy and enchanting, so your flask lasts longer and you can disenchant all the duplicate gear that you will get because game hates you

[rotund oak]

because it does more dmg in general,and even more into funneling with singular focus

[woven shore]

i felt that

[rotund oak]

there is when deathstalker cranks

[royal lantern]

i mean yeha, alchemy+enchanting are the "i dont wanna do profs" choices

[clever sapphire]

you didnt have to call me out like that

[slate crown]

I mean it's not "dead" in the sense that it's still fun to do if you like the feeling of making it yourself for non-objective reasons

[strange python]

I never really worried about that aspect of the game before.

I wonder if I should now.

[slate crown]

Like I like having my name on my dagger

[rotund oak]

i do engineer for bombs,which is whack selling and alchemy

[woven shore]

alr thank you sir

[rotund oak]

u r welcome fam

[woven shore]

eeh and in what case is Fatebound 'better'?

open world or what haha

[rotund oak]

nowhere pretty much

[strange python]

The fucked up thing is, I started playing WoW since Legion, but lost my account from like 3 expansions over. So I had to create a whole new account.

[woven shore]

well gj blizzard lmao

[strange python]

My Sin Rogue gonna be my main.

[woven shore]

when are they going to fix the Echo bug with stalker 😉

[clever sapphire]

small dps loss but its better if you dont want to deal with deathstalker

[hollow stone]

fatebound is better for fewer bugs (:

[clever sapphire]

since its pretty much passive

[royal lantern]

ye, its more like

you wont really make yourself some big gear, the costs until you can make the BIG pieces yourself are high, take long, and you only make a single piece then and need multiple weeks until you can learn another piece

• you wont really use more then 2-3 crafted pieces anyway

[slate crown]

Yeah

[woven shore]

thats what i was thinking too

keeping track on this shit is annoying sometimes lol

[rotund oak]

it has a better flow though and its not alot less for ST,just deathstalker cranking with singular focus is what makes deathstalker better if u ask me

[slate crown]

The answer to professions, if you aren't a goblin already and aren't already in the sauce, is "whatever tickles ur pickle"

[grim jay]

Actually pretty fine still, because you can recraft whenever and dont need to wait. Also are as good as any other profession

[slate crown]

If you want to make actual gold that's a whole other conversation

[hollow stone]

fatebound is also better at not having to ambush from stealth YUCK

[clever sapphire]

is singular focus actually doing dmg? i didnt get to test it since mobs in hc die before i can count to 2

[rotund oak]

yeah alot when u funnel compared to fatebound

[feral mason]

unless you're a big investing andy, best gold making method is working irl tbh

[royal lantern]

i slowly made blacksmith in DF, made a bit of gold with some weapon crafts in S1 and thats it

[grim jay]

Yeah really bothering so much and so inconvenient to press a different button once optimally and at worst not mores than a handful of times

[hollow stone]

[grim jay]

Unenjoyable

[woven shore]

when are servers up agai

n

[royal lantern]

nah

fuck deathstalker

fuck fatebound aswell ofc, but fuck deathstalker

[clever sapphire]

there are 2 things i hate about deathstalker

[woven shore]

fuck Ds with echo

[clever sapphire]

its that its not working with ER and the fact that i have to finish on 7

[grim jay]

Even Whispyr did admit it feels great and they need to just fix ER

Its time to get over it

[woven shore]

yea its making me nervous too

have to spend SO much energy

thats so stupid

and then i run out

could cast two more envenom for the cost of that

[clever sapphire]

ah thats whatever, but having to mutilate/fok on 6 is just annoying af

[spice spire]

Yeah but they also drop the best pet in the game so ?

[grim jay]

Half an envenom at most

[clever sapphire]

yap whatever

if that happens i messed up or its a bullshit fight

[grim jay]

You missplayed if thats the case

So punishement well deserved

[woven shore]

you joint his grp

lol

[grim jay]

Because you obviously either didnt apply it in the previous Pack

Greeded for dps and envenomed 5hp targets at 7cp

Or let the capstone run out

Because else you would just play the capstone

[royal lantern]

why do you defend horrible desing mate

[grim jay]

Because that part isnt even close to horrible

[royal lantern]

like, what are those mental Gymnastics

[grim jay]

????

What you said is literally just about playing wrong

Skill issue

Idk what to tell you

[clever sapphire]

have to agree with davy here, even if i dont like deathstalker

[royal lantern]

ah yes, if whisp says something its great, i forgot

personal opinions? lol, who cares

💀

[grim jay]

No need to be bitchy

He was equally hating was the statement

[clever sapphire]

i dont think anyone is gonna love deathstalker

[clear nexus]

WA for deathstalkers mark and Darkest Night?

[clever sapphire]

most people are just gonne accept it

[clear nexus]

im using quazii's set and it doesnt include it

[clever sapphire]

[feral mason]

deathstalker fye

[royal lantern]

i see like, 3people "loving" it, and they tell everyone else they are wrong for pointing out problems

[woven shore]

ping me if you find something to track mark

[royal lantern]

ye

[clever sapphire]

its in zacs package i think

[royal lantern]

"it is what it is" is not "im ok with it"

[clever sapphire]

not sure if whisp updated his wa yet

[royal lantern]

he did

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[glass vine]

I have both of these on my own auras unless you're looking for something that makes it more visible on plater

[cyan dew]

Guys with vicious venoms on single target, we don't consume FoK procs?

[clever sapphire]

ah gonna have to update my plater

[royal lantern]

no

[clever sapphire]

good pointer

[grim jay]

I will if they fix the buffs and add some QoL

[clear nexus]

how can I take the mark and deathstalker auras from his pack

[cyan dew]

ty

[royal lantern]

idk, im no WA guy

[woven shore]

no
i want it to glow bigger

[clever sapphire]

probably type the name of the ability/buff in the search bar of his wa and copy it into yours