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maybe I'm playing it wrong but I feel like the m+ build is doing more for me in heroics than the preseason build
Huh? What preseason build?
there's one on icy veins. it bs? lol
I wouldn't say they're BS because they're written by TCs in here...
Also, that's the bleed build, which is typically better because you're dealing with content that's dying very quickly.
Yeah, suggest being more careful with your words next time.
its probably from omnicc, plater has an option to disable those timers
is there any embellishment good?
do you know where it is lotta options in plater 🤯
ah tyvm
did update fix sin?
When is it worth dropping mythic 4pc?
Tomorrow
hello, do we play with 2 charges of shiv on m+?
Do we know what race is going to be bis for M+?
The one with the best mog
Prob dwarf
😂
Good thing that leaves a single objectively correct choice
!wa
bot is dead use search to find last time it worked
is there a working echoing reprimand WA that tracks the hot combo point?
quite the ilvl jump
maybe just a typo

I just did 20 waves of the one weekly to hit vanish and then the mob became untargetable
and wont become aggro again 😦
my 2 daggers have to up to 593 ilv, could they still come back? lul
Yeah, apparently bugs out the mob by vanishing
Most packs do, the one in my pack does. Discord bot to link it is broken though
Doesn't interact with deathstalker's mark, bot is broken, command is !dn
whens this hotfix come into effect?
yeah because its prior to the hotfix and it will remain taht way
not that it matters alot
adventurer is a minor track upgrade
are you guys crafting daggers
crafting isnt that bad an option but u should delay it if u are into content that can give a wpn that can be upgraded to that ilvl
its more of a,i can do but would avoid it if i can thing
yeah the worst part of it is getting 2 drops of high ilvl dagger after crafting
which is not gonna happen
yeah
its basicly a middle finger to get loot after u craft
not that it matters all that much,like season gonna pop,u gonna do 10 keys b4 jumping into raid

ild rather focus on stabilizing my consumable production and enchants n stuff
happened to me. i just had to hearth out and go again
looking at hotfixes and seeing rogue deathstalker mark bugfix but its not The bugfix
surely tomorrow

I just mean the 590 ones
can we push tier 8 delves yet or am i still holding my coffer keys
Two more weeks
i think its season start
Weapon is not a bad idea, some folks are doing a ring as well, this gear will all be replaced in 2 weeks but if you are a Tuesday raider it can be a nice start
17 delvs for the week and 8x m0 each day for full min max gonna be fun lol..
I see a lot of 1x daggers and 2x rings
Full clear of normal and heroic and a bunch of delves should cover most slots
yeah but also to learn them a bit better herioc everything dies before can even see mechanics
y wouldnt u craft rn?
its basically free if u wait like 5 days
Next week you'll be able to craft a 590 piece in basically every slot
ye the worst thing you can do is upgradee your gear
why ?
cause crafting is more effective
If youre rich
how rich do u think rich is tho
what are we going to do with all these crests?
you use them to craft
and with valorstones ?
Crafting is only more effective if you're upgrading from 580. If upgrading from 584 it's the same effectiveness
save valor stones
is it still deadly and instant poison or am i missing dps without amp poison?
wym? all crafted is 590
if youre doing r5 that is
584 to 590 is the same number of crests as crafting a 590. And the 584 can be upgraded to 593
Renown and some world drops
theres no 584 world drops i dont think
You're going to get at least 270 crests - probably closer to 360 once you factor in all the free rewards
theres only 3 584 renown items
You can afford to upgrade some pieces
what u imply does make sense ye
y ik
oh yea you could upgrade some parts but like if you full send an item from like 570 to 600 you basically lost 2 590 items
is serum trinket good for us
!wa
There are plenty of screenshots of people with people who have loot from rares at 584 or higher that dropped that way
id need to see
Some people have 600 plus ilvl weapons
i assummed they need to spend carved crest for that?
id love to see an item drop of 584 if u seen a screen shot
Just wait a day, people have been posting things randomly on all the discords
idk whether to embellish or not lol
are you sure thats real? lol
its real, its also kinda a meme weapon cause it doesnt have main stat. but there are "titanforged" world drops out there
oh right paladins have ashbringer as legion wep
It's real
Would you believe that somebody called me arrogant today?
why doesnt armory show upgrade lvl wack
It's on the veteran track
The sheer amount of extra damage we will do when reprimand works with death stalker will be amazing. I hope they fix it and not just ignore it
Might even be too good... to work as intended....
do yall recommend using valorstones to get heroic daung gear to 580?
theres gonna be a hotfix where dungeon gear is 480
Lmao
dunno when that is tho but its on most recent post
The most recent post was an error
They actually changed it Tuesday to what it currently is
And that's what they meant
Then, in 2 weeks when heroic raid launches, they are increasing the item level of hero dungeons to 580
But by then you won't be using that gear, you'll be getting 603 from Delve and 593 from m0
any LW on NA here?
Yes, the adventurer/explorer thing is a mistake in the patch note
doesnt seem to be live tho, just did an hero daung and it gave me an adventurer piece
its completely dead for LW
It is live, they mistyped explorer and adventurer
On Monday, the dungeon journal showed that loot was explorer 4 out of 8
That changed Tuesday to adventurer one out of eight
But the only included it in the hot fix that you posted it
yea just saw that most likely is a typo
And then they messed it up by typing the wrong names in the wrong areas
Has to be your own realm. Check the other faction
i see
you can technichnically guild hop to have crafting orders filled, but that probably isn't the best route
Assa always feels compfy which makes not wanting to step out of my comfort zone but i have too
What is better between deadly vs instant for lvling and for dungeons rn?
well deadly does the same damage as instant
but it additionally is a dot
so you got instant poison, or instant poison + bonus
never use instant 
!pooling
do you use any macros for cds? like dm+pots+shiv+kingsbane
theyre all on gcd except pot so probably not a good idea
despite pot, why its not a good idea? just to understand
- theyre all on gcd. so you would need to make some weird cast sequence.
- you would need another bind for shiv on its own
- its easy to make a mistake forget to spam your cast sequence properly and completly fuck up your cds
With only one shiv, do you shiv before kingsbane or in the second half of the dot
Why assa is good rn
Should be last 8 seconds of KB
Thanks
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
!poison
You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:
Lethals:
- Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
Non-Lethals: - Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB
Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used
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Maybe someone made a new tierlist
upgraded my sack and mainhand is it worth doing offhand?
There is one tierlist im sure we're on top of
Badly designed hero trees.
you upgraded your what 
(don't upgrade your offhand)
My guy has a hero track sack
ara-kara sac
Do we have a renown preference to raise first?
None is really worth it for gains
So look at the rewards
What are you cooking 
@balmy condor would u say maybe pants next? i have the renown helm shoulders n chest upgraded
ty good sir enjoy your day
m+ video
lenght of a full feature film
you become a real YT content creator

I had people asking yesterday for the release because I told them there will be one 
why are you drinking my water
tbh i feel stealth gets mentioned alot
because alot of players dont know how to multidot
without IC
I try to not talk about it cause some boomer goes into the comments and goes "HEY FUCK FACE?????? IO CHECK?????" and then tries to hit me with a gotcha
but I also can't NOT talk about it
cause like
ya know
You are literally the number 1 hater of dotting without IC
And the whole spider pact thing? Also of no consequence?
yes but what about restealthing during the minecart darkness bit in the delving depth or whatever that instance is
m+ mains are a special breed
of creatures
Just dont answer them
yeah but then it feels like I'm just avoiding the conflict
and I'm not a pussy!!!!!
I want to argue!!!!
you just reacted to me with a picture of a cat!

the hair says queer, the body says twink, but the mouth says angry


📸
I dont think its avoiding the conflict. You offered your knowledge, you did your part. No need to argue with fanboys and degens 
Oh you’re referring back to that
I may or may not have been in a group with a chainpulling tank at that moment in time
Is this honey buzzer trinket simming correctly or is it bugged? Seems fukcing insane
I don’t mind it that much, just used to a tank that lets me actually restealth between packs
a lot of stuff is kinda weird in sims atm, honey buzzer got coded in earlier today
I wouldn't worry too much right now
things will iron out over the next week
What is the difference between the talent builds Raid ST and Raid Easy Mode
Amen
like 3-4%
raid easy mode you can play drunk
Gotta be geared for hc splits 
well there's literally nothing to do for 2 weeks
Gotta be geared for a week of daily m0
might as well farm trinkets
got all year to touch grass
Might aswell spam hc dungeons got replaced with "might aswell enjoy smth different" after I got that stupid minecart dungeon back to back
can some1 explain what DTB means?

dragon tempered blades
ty
which faction sells the legs?
Dunno how anyone thought that light mechanic and the minecart minigame would be great
Ye but what if you get unlucky
just a question, we track caustic spatter to focus the target which has it?
https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-war-within-early-access-584-gear-available-at-renown-vendors-346111
Id probably just accept my fate, because who cares for first week of hc
to get the poison splash?
yes
ty
dont think there are renown legs?
no i thought it was helmet shoulders chest trinket
^
Do you have to have the mob targeted when it dies to gain darkest night. There are so many times where I'm just multidotting massive packs and I never get my mark again when mobs die in dungeons
No
ty, yes thats what i thought
oh im using your weak aura 😄 another question, is the SnD tracker expected just to show up when you dont have SnD? like you dont need to track it since it refreshes with envenom?
yes
normally after you cast snd
you just envenom
and never think about snd ever again
so no reason to track it
i guess
i think ill just set it to show all the time for now
im kinda dumb so i need it 🙂
thanks for the auras btw, i love them
if it makes you feel better to see slice and dice permanently sit at 50 seconds
go for it
np
Feels like I can't get my deathmark back in dungeons if I don't get a restealth. Is that how it is or just a skill issue lol
skill issue
I didnt even realize your WA had an snd tracker
capstone
it does if you don't have it up

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Yeah I only start looking at my WAs after the opener 
Gotta track the 30 sec and get a full envenom off on your next target
I guess, i just try to optimize my chars as much as i can
Yeah just dont pressure yourself too much and get burned out fam
Sub officially embraces deathstalker aswell now 
Aight. Just seems like I don't get the darkest night quite a lot for some reason
Did you really apply it tho?
In the first place
There an issue ATM with echoing reprimand so don't use the anima charged combo points you need the full bar
is the echoing thing with dn a bug or expected?
@balmy condor Hi, do you have your own discord with notification when you stream or post a video? Would love to watch some streams ❤️
I do but idk if that dumb bot works
another thing, is it expected to not get another DNwhen you use a DN envenom to kill a mob?
seems to work
Good to know
I'll send you an inv
i guess its expected since you dont get marks on the mob before it dies
yeh that works too
You consume the buff to deal more envenom damage and the marks get applied afterwards
Expected behaviour
nah, i need to learn
i just hope they dont nerf sin and "force" us to play outlaw as many times before
Can't nerf us if they have 0 rogue devs
xd
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Then every class is safe because they have 0 class devs in general

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naughty bots get a spaghetti name
Is it a bug or intended if you envenom with darkest night up, and the mob dies, you dont refresh your darkest night
probably not intended
but also not fixable
because damage events always happen before debuff/buff events
that's just the order of operations in the game
ah I see
They could probably let the buff disappear only on mark application instead of on the damageevent and just make the buff a max cp envenom damage increase in general until consumed, but that could probably be abused in some ways aswell 
true
davyn rate the thumbnail
10/10
Yo whisp thanks for everything you are doing for this community, your guides and insights made me play this spec
as a sidenote
we need a fuu pog emote
9.5/10
I nearly died on sight with the emote 
Also good to show the deathstalker auperiority with increased size 📈
oh shit video 
1h35 video lesgo
cursed pickaxe yay or nay
nothing but facts
I imagine lol you need a fresh monster after this
the third recording
I got 70 minutes in
and then was like
"I never talked about hero talents, shit"
that one
was heartbreaking
Dang I cant read anything rn bcs im on slowmode for the rest of the month 
yeah
I could edit
but editing takes time
and effort
and skill
and we don't do any of those around here
so we just one shot it
and every now and then I have to re-record and it sucks but that's just life
all of the best guides are unedited one-takes
Yup i see at least you have the 3rd one 
most of the time thumbnails are even too much effort for me
but I saw the meme and couldn't pass it up

sure we are
Say what
I know someone who does time as a sin
yeah but now the 3cp bug
is 4cp
and sub got a buff
because of the darkest night thing
so they're clearly doing something
oh whelp
wait
they changed something and now instead of only working with 3cp, it only works with 4cp?
thats uh
pretty cursed
well at least they're trying
Because we just happen to have 7 cp max, ER doesnt give you a max cp finisher and darkest night is set to proc on a max cp finisher
all they need to do is do the same thing to 4 that they did to 3
and then the same thing to 5 that they did to 4
and then put it all together
and we're good to go
blizzard is just edging us
by fixing it 1cp at a time
its like a striptease
but for hero talents
xD one cloth at a time
While i'm here like "take EVERYTHING off"
thats why scripts exists 
I had a bullet pointed script
I'm just brain damaged
is there a bis list for the first 3 weeks?
no
idk if i should just upgrade any 571 piece to 580
every guide page and theorycrafter has stopped doing pre-raid bis cause it's just absolutely pointless
BiS even during the season is kinda pointless
but before season is even worse
is this because of frequent changes?
it's free, why not
I mean in a small part yes, but it's mainly just not helpful
tons of effort for a list of gear you replace within an hour of servers going live on heroic week
so should we just grab the highest ilvl stuff and hope it's good enough for week 1?
what's the point of that
if you have the time, just upgrade everything to 580. Still a week i think until mythic opens, so plenty of time to be 580+ geared
it will be good enough
that's good to know
if you're like 565-570 by the time heroic week comes out
you're good to go
if you're giga chad heroic spammer
you'd be like 575-580
and if you're world first grinding machine you'd be above 580
isn't it more important to spam m0s when they come out though?
and every single one of those people
will be replacing all of their gear
the moment the servers come up
you cant spam them
fine, once per day for each one >.>
yep
did they change m0 lockouts? Last i played it was once a week
yeah they shuffled around everything
interesting
i was just thinking if it matters to "waste" valorstones on haste/vers chest upgrade when i can get a mastery/haste chest and upgrade it
but i guess you get so much valorstones
it wont matter
yeah
i spammed heroics untill i got the pieces with the stats i wanted, then i upgraded them as i got them
if you want to min-max you'd stockpile 2k for heroic week
but even then like
you're gonna be crest limited
all of this pre-raid stuff
is literally the tiniest of min-maxes
and kinda pointless
once m+ comes out
all of this saving your delve key here
and saving your crests there
and doing your weeklies in this order
it's all pointless
you just end up doing m+ and none of what you did the month prior is going to matter
ppl just craft because ''omgihavetocraftbecauseitsthebesticandofor5ilvls''
but for some reason the entire community has rallied behind world first players squeezing every drop of even an iota of damage out for specifically the first tuesday of the season
it's actual brainrot
Yeah crafting 590 items is wild rn
yeah i guess any 580 piece of gear you have youre gonna replace with the first 593 you get from mythic, regardless of stats
@balmy condor nice m+ video thx, do you got your plater linked somewhere aswell?
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last one
anyone done the worldsoul quest with the heroic dungeon?
Any reason to not grab a crafted Dagger if we can or there is better in the vault?
ty
on wowhead it says its bugged so idk
you are welcome fam
Short term*
@balmy condor When do you plan to release the m+ vid :D?
My mouth is dry as hell man this took 4 hours I am too ADHD for this youtube thing
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Ravenholdt Disco...
hi Whispyr i love your afenar wa but it seems the slice and dice buff not showing up?
That was fast 😄
just opened it myself xd
it only shows when you don't have it up
if you want to see it (like me) you can set it to show on - always
ohh thanks alot !!!
Mmmh I've been using Whispyr's plater profile (I'm kind of a new plater user so still getting used to it) and it seems I have no indication for Kingsbane target. Deathmark is super explicit but Kingsbane alone I can't seem to track 🤔
id rather track it with a wa
I was thinking about adding a green border for kingsbane but honestly if you're not pressing kingsbane on the caustic/mark target you're kinda trolling to begin with
so idk
the deathmark indicator already feels overkill to me
did the last enemy wave 20/20 for one of the bigger events bug too?
cant attack dude and iam trapped here
(vanish is to blame)
hi guys, is the ER bug from deathstalker fixed yet ?
what do you need for a 590 craft? is it the missives?
no just a proper crafter, i did the same mistake
public order can do whatever to you
one of these
they fixed deathstalker yet with ER ?
Does someone have a great garrote / rupture / CT weakaura for tracking & setup?
no
boooo
wait are you telling me that, I, who work a full time job and have a kid shouldn't level 17 characters of the same class???
is there no point in tracking scent of blood? to know if you have enough ruptures up on giga pulls?
in mine?
Do we suspect it's not a bug yet and they just don't want it to work with ER
it's a bug
I'm not great so sometimes I put Kingsbane before I put Caustic
and forgot which target it was
no time to improve like the present!
because I targetted something else to do cc or something else haha
I need to make my cc mouse-over....
and my garrote and rupture too I think
but at the same time our range is so limited that targetting actually help if I have to move to the target ...?
Decisions decisions...
im freaking out about the loss of stealth rn
I just wish Darkest Night had some kinda visual indicator that it was ready, relying on a big flashing WA to know to build to 7 is fun
Also wish it worked with ER so I could just count how many finishers I’d used
In a m+ scenario with a bunch of enemies on top of you, you wouldn't notice it
i mean it feels really shit for me as new rogue, to apply rupture on like 5 targets without stealth, but i think it is just the way to go if i want to keep dealing dps with enough energy. just tested it out like in the video with 5 ruptures manuelly applied every time and it feels sooo much better to play.
It feels bad rn cuz packs die in 4 seconds
amp poison
Also, with SBS you're casting 2 ruptures in a row most of the time
So it isn't half bad
ahhh ty
Who can help me set this up so that it doesnt take me out of stealth when I use it, if it even is possible.
Its always wild to me that people get randomly unpleased because they need to manually spread dots on a spec that mostly has dots. Idk
If you macro something that breaks stealth, it will break stealth
Idk what prismatic bauble is tho
These kids woulda never survived back in my day
i mean i was tank main my whole life, my first real dps besides bm hunter, i am just not used to it. and tbf i need get rid of the thinking dps number in the current second is everything. if i do not setup everything correctly, 10 secs later im far behind in dps. just habits and learning ^^
looks like this
but if you're in stealth no one will be able to see your rainbow
Jesus chriust this trinket is insane, it lasts for a minute
I see it, dont care bout others 😛
Did you try macroing it like
Bauble > stealth > sprint and use it without stealth already on?
I haven't, maybe I can try
and i think right now, its a bit weird to see burst classes 1mio plus dps in chain pull, and before i can get my rupture spread the pack is already dead 😄 but i think this will feel much better in m+
hello guys, how much crit/mastery/haste/versa should we have as assa? 😮
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
Thats just due to the content being way too easy
Ye
ye 100%
didnt they say hc is supposed to be m0? tsss
I actually didnt check what they said. 
Its always the same tho
Like low m+ are already fine bcs of sudden demise
And tanks not being able to pull everything all the time at the beginning of the season
And the higher you go the better it will be
oh hell yeah thats sooo stupid
imagine they still manage to die in hc
@balmy condor who made those cursed coin emotes

about how much should i be simming at or looking to be simming at at 580?
in as deathstalker im getting like 560k full buffs (no PI)
What kind of question is that 
You sim for what you sim for. If you get a better piece of gear that sims higher, you sim higher
How high others sim is entirely irrelevant for what you will do
Noobie question.
Crimson Tempest - does the multiple target buff apply as a snapshot of that cost, i.e. I have to hit all 5 targets with that one cast.
Or if I use it twice, on 2 sets of 3 targets, do both sets of instances get buffed to the 5 target damage?
The sims are basically showing you what numbers you'd get if you play perfectly right?
mainly trying to figure out whatever one else idk if im low and need to super focus on swapping something since my mage friend is doing 900k 560k seems low
Perfectly with no downtime on patchwerk
ye, so to answer your question, just find your character on the sim, and that tells you what number you should be getting playing perfectly with the gear you have.
guys do you think on high lvl M+ keys we should go dwarf instead of night elf?
or it is not relevant for this M+ bracket?
i guess mainly just am i low at 560 or is arcane just busted
Been wondering about this, but in a different way: If I CT 5 targets and one target dies, does that mean CT loses 20% damage on the remaining 4
Thats pretty vague. In a dungeon? Same group? Same gs? Overall of the dungeon? Or just some St Boss?
Also many factors to consider
Gnome gang rise up (purely aesthetic)
arcane is busted
ST is what we simmed at
So you just compare sims basically
okay that makes sense then
Ensure you are simming in same settings / buffs etc.
Idk what the Max sim of arcane in s1 gear is tbf, but comparing sims isnt really worth to do, thats neither how balancing works nor what will end up as the state in raids
if you are crimson tempest spec for M+ aoe, are you supposed to apply crimson tempest on single target boss damage before going into your deathmark shiv, kingsbane burst rotation?
Some specs just naturally sim higher without necessarily being stronger
Like outlaw for example
No ct in st
so ambush garrote rupture snd echoing reprimand fok envenom deathmark shiv kingsbane is the beginner for the rotation?
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The wowhead guide
ok sick
good link
ty
i was looking at the wowhead guide, i didnt know if having crimson tempest talented changed the opening sequence before sending the CD buttons
deathmark shiv and kb
I sim higher than you with same gs and M+ talents for patchwerk by some k

If its not shown as a toggle or not shown in the opener if you toggle it on, it doesnt get used
!macros
No macros recommended
Ok, ty 🙂
Except CB if you play fatebound
well even that kinda isn't
Yeah still better without macroing
Does pickpocket ambush macro still work nowadays? 😄
probably
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you can get a weapon stone that's markedly worse than the blacksmithing whetstones
Watching your A-Z at present Whispyr, any chance you know the answer this? I'm assume it's snapshot on cast
Pure value then 🤣
yes snapshot on cast
Sweet thanks
Frugal gaming gang
ends up just being a pain in the ass for maybe damage or maybe not damage depending on if you get it right or not
with 0 feedback
cause like how are you gonna know
how much single target dps does a ilvl 550 rogue do in burst rotation is like 400k good on a dummy?
should sim yourself and compare to that probably
kk
did people actually not know that
😂
Think its just for the meme of it
Why tf do I have this coin on my name
Doubt anyone doesnt know most class halls
Because you are a coin enjoyer
Keep flipping bro
my class hall is the auction house, excuse me
Never played assassin before and its so hard to judge how it plays during leveling, after i use my backstab and garrote and rupture nothing happens then all of a sudden the boss keels over.
we're in the process of changing the role icons
I got rid of them for you

Cant be. The "you dont know how to play your char if you just used a boost to max lv"-crowd would be shocked

Sudden Demise kicked in I assume 😄 Execute at 35% if remaining bleeds exceed 150% of enemy HP.
sounds like you're getting banger sudden demise procs
Is there a cool deathstalker icon? 
The hero talent icon itself is probably weird to down size ig?
ive never used the level boost but i did only play some outlaw last expac 😉
but yeah i usually play enhance shaman but wanted a change this expac
I wasnt making fun if you, just of the people that think leveling is worth any experience gameplay-wise 
i have a feeling its too big brain for me though with the whole pooling energy etc
You'll be fine. It's just not a dance mat like Enhance Shaman play style 😄
Pooling is pretty easy once you can actually try it
It’s the opposite of big brain
Do we really send Echoing reprimand before mutilate (caustic spatter) in AoE if we use bonespikes?
Yo
you can swap the order if you like, doesn't matter if you get caustic up if you're not using envenoms on the target anyway
I see, i'm new too assa 🙂 Thanks
do we still have any of these?
But what about all the plague and deadly poison damage 
that is up to date
You can also do 1m dps in chain pull
just applying dots to one big mob, and getting your ct and dn off
Usually sends you to a lot more than that
Is there a best choice with this new weekly q?
Any info/ideas on who to pact with in azj-kahet? Or does it not matter? Trying to avoid making the 'wrong' choice like in the SL covenants
Easiest is the Machine awakening I think, but it shouldn't matter. Loot is the same
Thx @balmy condor 🙂
np
people are too traumatized by SL i swear 
Well, some stuff from SL was seriously dogshit, so yeah 😛
It's harder because you actually have to queue into the fucking dungeon
Just find the group in PGF
instead of random queue
I guess, after a 30 minute queue yesterday I just spammed heroics with guildies and got fully decked out, but I assume the queue is still the same for dps
idk, never had queue above 4min
Maybe it was just an unlucky hour 
when the queue for anything is longer then 15 min, stop and queue again
something is broken at that point
everyone has the same thumbnail and then yours inbetween on my frontpage was an instant eyecatcher

I pride myself on 0 effort thumbnails once every 10 videos
Adding some color would make it a 11/10
Great video 👍 thanks for taking the time making it. I just have one question, in the video you explain that going down on the left side of the tree (Lightweight Shiv, Systemic Failure, Blindside and Zoldyck Recipe) isent that good, and you show in your video an alternate build around Sudden Demise. But on wowhead you recommend going down left side for the Sudden demise build. Is your video build more uptodate or is the left side just more noob friendly? Ty again for your investment of time!
Now that you mention meme, catering to casuals thumbnail when? Pre school math thumbnail when?
bleed builds go down the left, as do cleave builds, bleed builds will generally just focus on sudden demise pops, but they suck in single target so they're "recommended" in that regard for like these shitter heroic dungeons, but not for serious keys
once the season comes out you'd pretty much play hybrid everywhere all the time
Did they turn off sets
Thanks for clarifying, because the explenation on wowhead says "recommendation for most Mythic+ player". So I thought it would be recommended for like Mythic 1-5 or something.
That was supposed to happen today I'm p sure
Fixing scaling was supposed to happen today aswell, seemingly didnt

Lmao
Is there a set of plater "coloured bars" that people use? i use a set on enhance to show who has flameshock or lashing flames.
yeah the wording is a bit funky but I have to rewrite stuff for actual season launch anyway so I've been lazy
!wa
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no worry, I can just annoy you here ❤️
cheers
Whispyr, since you have the coin icon I guess you are playing Fatebound, any specific reason for that?
you guys feel like people, but tanks especially, are leaving after the first boss of a dungeon more this expansion?
doesnt really work like that
every other dungeon today i had the tank leave after the first boss, sometimes they'd ask for the drop but whether they got it or not they'd peace out
Coin is just pretty
Maybe just farming specific things
i mean that's pretty obvious but the leaving is a bitch move
Yeah but I would leave aswell if I would waste my time otherwise
so you'd happily fuck 4 strangers on the internet and make them waste their time?
assholes gonna be assholes 
not worth wasting energy on
well
took 10 minutes in the queue to get a new tank just now
Im fine with that 
That doesnt sound like the norm
naw usually it was 2-5 minutes
a dick, but not in my butt????
but it's late now
i mean during prime time today it was only taking me 2-5 minutes to even get in a dungeon
but either way
it's a dick move
I'll be playing endless deathstalker when content is actually difficult, I want to enjoy my coin-flipping freedom before I'm put into purple-prison
i mean it's hypothetical since we can't tank heh
i didn't love ting build but i didn't give it a fair shot i think
Do you not enjoy deathstalker then? Or is it just about the variety for the time being
.
they're both fine, but i can see his point
Wtf is my icon
coup de grace
role icons got updated
2varas 1 coup?
go get a new one
Don't have either then?
Meowwwww
god deathstalker feels so sick on dummies please just fix ER I beg
Is outlaw still better than all of us for M+ you guys think?
why is there a fatebound heads and fatebound tails
guy insisted
it should be a random icon everytime you comment
outlaw is still strong but we're competitive
@balmy condor I'm listening to you on Max's tierlist on youtube right at this second . lol.
nice
sounds like an easy way to get moroes rate-limited by discord

so you COULD do it 
well
i don't think we're gonna get into lots of "i want god comp only" key pugs as sin
but i dunno that outlaw will either anymore
@balmy condor still would be a ton of API calls
@vestal wren we got a really really important job for you
Should the updated icons be in ,,Channels & roles"?
depending how talkative someone is
I don't think it's all that hard either, just like read the message, pick a number 1 through 10, then assign role in array by that number
but yeah
api calls would be crazy
and sounds not fun
if you roll the same icon 7 times in a row you get shadow role
Do you mean that ER combo points don’t use stacks and don’t work with the full CP envenom?
does your profile put a deathmark timer (just numbers) in the middle of the health bar?
yes
uhhhhh
no

God how times have changed
nah, I still get whispers like this
maybe stop abusing the economy then
my bad
raer mounts
Blli zzard
That’s crazy
the game is 
you sure about that
I thought they want it like this 😂
the biggest bug we have
perhaps that is the intention
maybe the real bug was the friends we made along the way
You aren’t even paywalling your sims yet 
abusing economy (creating artificial scarcity in the monster energy supply)

(I won’t)
I think azor still does?
Ye his sims
I respect the hussle I guess
But I thought he stopped after people figured out it he uses a 1000ilvl bow to inflate it
Wasn’t it the opposite
Didn’t they sim really low
And we’re like oopsie we forgot to sim the bow

Yeh he sandbagged by not using the bow
lol
hey can someone help me make a macro that uses deathmark , shiv , kingsbane in 1 button in that order? the simple /cast doesnt work , and i dont know how to make a sequence macro :/
Idk, as long as people are paying I guess
not recommeded at all but
Ya one out of ten people are suckers so w/e
Whisp is there big difference in playstyle / rotations between hybrid and bleed build or it plays the same? Havent watched the vid yet as i dont have time til later
Plays basically the same
If you run arterial you can do the forbidden tea for mastery technology
But aside from that it’s all the same
Just shifts the damage around
Like think of it not as gameplay change
But as damage shift
that would be something like this:
#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=target/combat/10 Deathmark, Shiv, Kingsbane
If you play bleed, you’re simply pushing more damage into bleeds, less into caustic
If you play cleave you’re pushing damage into caustic, less into bleeds
tyvm will try out in a sec 🙂 , i ususally still have the abilitys in my bar but it would be great macro for the first burst window
strongly recommend to not use this in actual endgame pve but i hope that helped
best use of these are something like all the buffs you need to refresh every hour
like poisons so that you can press the thing and get all 4 set
why tho?
Well for starters in m+ that macro sucks
pink is such a based colour for clarity
Cause you play 1 charge
yeah
thats the opener
yeh thats what i wanna use it for
whispyr loves castsequence macros
@earnest remnant
can you make me a castsequence macro for my entire opener please
sennarth vibes
may I ask what takes most of your keybinds? we have fairly low amount of rotational abilities among every dps
thats what macros are for lol to press less buttons
I mean if you wanna do it idc I’m not the one playing it and then getting cucked by cast sequences
in long term you def give em all separate binds
you forgot the caveat of "... where it makes sense to do so"
you end up having more binds even
because you don't always press buttons in that sequence
yeah things happen
anything for you babe
thanks darling
if you don't mind you can share your entire keybind for assassin so that we review the...buttons problem
Me making a cold blood + envenom macro but then needing to use a regular envenom keybind for fatebound opener instead of just binding cold blood directly like a normal person

wanna fight boomer ass skeleton
😂
mmm
Yeah, then I just untalented fatebound and everything was good in the world except the entire design of ambush from stealth and no ER combo points proccing mark
!wa
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😂
HE DOESNT KNOW

the blue 4cp incident

can you craft a spark this week?
I don't keep up with the channels at all 
ER 4cp is SOMETIMES proccing deathstalker mark / dn
completely rng though
shits funny as hell
everytime I play rogue I feel sad and I wanna play something else but whispyr drops a new video and fills my veins with copium
Oh yeah I knew that from playing
I noticed it but couldn't replicate it

I was like, nice 4cp procs it
then did 4cp the next one and it didn't
then a few later it did












