assassination

[waxen oyster]

since forever

[haughty lantern]

yeah like on YUGE pulls i kinda just panic (assuming i can't stealth) go straight to FoK and Tempest spam

[novel star]

yeah thats the big thing

tempest damage is nice but not as nice as having energy to actually cast it more than once

[fickle girder]

It quite literally doesn't matter what you do in HC

[unborn carbon]

literally just ran into this issue myself :/ how did you reset it? just hearth out?

[craggy cedar]

@waxen oyster with all the above comments you can say it's not that complicated? So type in the rotation on a trash pack in a high mythic, including CD's.....most will say (see guides) because it's so complex you wouldn't even want to type it.

[waxen oyster]

I mean

I don't think it is

[novel star]

the summary of all the above messages is that The Bleed Spec Should Use Bleeds

thats not that complicated man

[severe sparrow]

it's not complicated it's just like, you have to look at things more than just running in and slamming buttons

[waxen oyster]

This is a good way to put it

[novel star]

^

[fickle girder]

Complicated = not press wake of ashes, press wake of ashes again, end

[novel star]

like obviously a spec that just presses cooldowns and the biggest cooldown is the biggest damage

is going to be simpler

but sin isnt so overloaded it needs to be simplified or something lmao

[haughty lantern]

^^^^

[novel star]

just learn

step 1: learn

step 2: win

simple

[shy pecan]

It’s whatever, everyone has different ways and speeds of comprehending a spec and their rotations. What might be easy for them is difficult for someone else

[waxen oyster]

CDs dont really change much either

you send them into the big boy you're spattering

same as popping cds on any other class

[craggy cedar]

Ok it's more than just gar X2, rupture , mut, mut , env...your adding in Mark, KB , watching buffs on when to use CD's and when to use shivs. Etc.

[waxen oyster]

Only spec that doesnt think about cd usage is outlaw with their yolo send everything as long as there's uptime.

[novel star]

yeah but those cds arent that crazy though

and you can learn the order to press them without having to know why or specifics on how they work

[waxen oyster]

Why are you mutilating twice in your aoe opener anyway

[novel star]

kingsbane does nature damage based on how many poisons you apply, shiv buffs nature damage, envenom/mark buff poison application

these are all very simple functions

and its obvious how they work together

u dont have 2 do rocket science

[naive pier]

can someone tell me what do they think of the hybird tallent

[waxen oyster]

More ST

Less aoe

dtb gives you amp for bigger envenoms and bigger spatters

[haughty lantern]

set up all the bowling pins then knock em down

[oak fable]

anyone met the sudden demise do not trigger

[waxen oyster]

I'm pretty sure whispyr only put the delve build on wowhead because the writers wanted it

ermm wowhead

[novel star]

yeh

[waxen oyster]

The cleave build I feel only confuses newer players being there.

Considering its only relevant for the highest players doing harder content.

[haughty lantern]

this is why i haven't touched the full cleave build, b/c i've had no use for it. Hybrid build has fulfilled all my needs for both questing and heroic dungeon

[keen furnace]

does the cleave build out perform the bleed build tho?

[waxen oyster]

No

Its basically the raid build with IC

only if you're doing like super high keys and need more st

in your comp

[haughty lantern]

and then that even FURTHER devolves into "what week is it"

tyranical or bolstering

do you need more ST or all in on cleave?

[past forum]

yep, i hearthed out and went again lol

[waxen oyster]

For the average player just doing weekly vault keys its not relevant.

[haughty lantern]

hence just default to the hybrid build (imo)

[waxen oyster]

It's probably there because some streamer played it for some push key.

[keen furnace]

i intend to push high keys, i coped casual addict beta build and its some variant of the cleave build

[waxen oyster]

and to avoid endless questions of it

[keen furnace]

i have no problem with it just wondered if the other is better

[waxen oyster]

hybrid does the job for most people

and bleed if its meme content where things die very fast

[keen furnace]

running this

[tropic cedar]

well not anymore it doesn't, at least for high keys

[haughty lantern]

explain plz

gib knowledge

[tropic cedar]

tyran and fort are always active now in 12+ yea?

[haughty lantern]

are they?

[tropic cedar]

no affixes other than the Xalatath one

[haughty lantern]

also do keys still only go from 1-10?

[tropic cedar]

no they still scale infinitely

but they scale way harder now with each key level

[haughty lantern]

ok but loot only goes from 1-10?

[tropic cedar]

oh, ye

[hexed frost]

Absolute heroic supremacy

[novel star]

yeah but a +10 is like an old +20 or whatever

[haughty lantern]

sorry i'm not an insane person, i only do keys for loot

[novel moss]

Whats the dagger we can craft to 590 called?

[waxen oyster]

As do most players

[novel star]

high keys are fun

[waxen oyster]

except the ones that think wow is a moba

[novel star]

but not fun to pug

[waxen oyster]

that you can random queue into the highest keys

[tropic cedar]

thats why i added a qualifier to my original message

if you dont do high keys, it wont affect you

[haughty lantern]

people really do need to be reasonable about what they actually aim to achieve and what tools they use to do so

[knotty rose]

Guys, any of the darkmoon trinks worth consideration? actually dont have any interesting trink

[tropic cedar]

buy them for ilvl boost nothing more

[lean nacelle]

Can anyone tell me if there is a plater profile for assa that only tracks rupture and garrote as well as crimson tempest?

[tropic cedar]

like if you need to get to 551 to q for heroics, for example

[haughty lantern]

I WANT THE ULTRAMOSTBESTEST BUILD TO DO 23 AND UP KEYS

ok what content are you going to be doing?

Oh just LFR and heroic dungeons

[tropic cedar]

you dont really need a profile for this, just blacklist all of the buffs/debuffs you dont want to see

[queen egret]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[haughty lantern]

ascension actually kinda stonks

this is my own personal stat sim for trinket combos

[waxen oyster]

ascension is good if things live longer than the time it takes to get a stack

[haughty lantern]

as you can see, ascension KINDA up there*

[haughty lantern]

this is the main make or break point

[waxen oyster]

i really needed that one stack

When the last mob in the pack is at 5%

[haughty lantern]

so if you're just reaching for any random trinket to be a stat stick with possible use, ascension is likely the go to

[lean nacelle]

Is it worth upgrading gear this week guys? or stack valorstones?

[waxen oyster]

vivacity is a generic stat proc with no ramp

[tropic cedar]

been using the passive bleed trinket and the candle, just macro'd it to DM

[waxen oyster]

i think shadowed essence kind of slaps

[haughty lantern]

i mean....why not both? depends on what you're aiming for

I'm trying to be "cutting edge" for my raid when we start in 2 weeks, so I want to chase ilvl

[waxen oyster]

the random hallowfall treasure trinket

very high crit and agi buff uptime

and damage proc

[haughty lantern]

do we have a list of like....viable world trinkets to try and find right now to bandaid us until raid/m+ stuff drops?

[waxen oyster]

probably not

[haughty lantern]

gotta go farm siege of boralus and tol

[waxen oyster]

the nerubar trinket if you have threads at 6

[haughty lantern]

my imperfect ascension drank seems to be "doing numbers"

[waxen oyster]

its like 2 secondaries at 500 per

[south nest]

sak brood is like top 3 for every class, but it doesn't even matter right now

[waxen oyster]

and 2k mainstat proc

[waxen oyster]

the egg sac?

[south nest]

yea ara-kara sacbrood

[haughty lantern]

i'm invested 🙂

[waxen oyster]

i've gotten it twice on normal

[haughty lantern]

tbf whysper put it at the top of our trinket list

it's the 2 trinkets from m+, and then sacbrood

[waxen oyster]

Is it not a m+ dungeon

[haughty lantern]

Skardyn's Grace (2 min mastery bump) and crit debuff on a single enemy

[haughty lantern]

IT IS but normal/heroic version is available now so

[shy pecan]

It really doesn’t matter if you’re planning on doing like m0+ content or going to be jumping into raid. You’ll replace it quick

[haughty lantern]

work with what we got

[waxen oyster]

pov when the strongest 2 trinkets are both from old dungeons.

spyglass my beloved

i farm your dumb ass for 4 seasons in bfa

[haughty lantern]

william afton trinket

it always comes back

[waxen oyster]

Skardyn's if i recall was like relevant for 1 week on dhs in NH

for some shenanigans on their burst

from timewalking

[haughty lantern]

SPEAKING OF SKARDYN

I thought Skardyn was a PERSON

like a name

but now we know it's what happens when an Earthen gets corrupted by the void....

SINCE WHEN DID WE HAVE SKARDYN BACK IN CATA?!?

[queen egret]

what is it that refunds our combo points after we garrote, garrote, rupture first time out of stealth?

[kindred abyss]

bonespike i think

[spice spire]

Yeah it’s bonespike

[haughty lantern]

BONE SPIKE IS READYYYYY

[queen egret]

If we dont want to play Iron wire in m+, where does that talent point go for optimal damage?

[shy pecan]

Whatever 0.4% gain you want at that point

[spice spire]

You should play iron wire in m+ it’s one of the most useful talent points we have. Literally not a thought on where else to go it’s so little I’ve never personally considered it

[shy pecan]

I’d strong discourage you to not take IW

[queen egret]

in there heroics

all i care about is flexing my overall on discord

[waxen oyster]

Play outlaw then

[normal mist]

How to people deal with not being able to swap talent trees around?

[waxen oyster]

[haughty lantern]

i have a question about IC garrote and rupture

will it prioritize spreading it to targets that are not bleeding yet?

[shy pecan]

What do you mean? Like can’t go from one build to the next?

[normal mist]

nop

: (

[molten mica]

Anywhere i can see bis to farm for heroric dungeons?

[normal mist]

there isnt a bis

you just want Ilvl

[waxen oyster]

There probably is but its not relevant to give a fuck about

[haughty lantern]

grab ilvl, crit/haste/mast if you can afford to. That's what i've been chasing

[shy pecan]

I know if you had a holdover old talent build from before TWW, you get that talent point error trying to swap

[normal mist]

I've been in M+ cleave this old time xD

[shy pecan]

Yeah, delete it and create a new build

[normal mist]

aaaaaaaaaah

thanks

[shy pecan]

It’s a bug from pre-TWW to TWW

[haughty lantern]

AH i had this problem

delete all the builds, then make one build. Then create "New Talent Build", that should allow you to change it

[undone flame]

this might sound dumb but is the rotation on wowhead not updated?

[manic coral]

what does the rookery trinket do exactly?

it sims like crazy for me

[shy pecan]

It should be

[normal mist]

it is updated

[graceful flume]

!wa

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[sleek ridge]

Barlet is sexy

[undone flame]

ah okay i asked since this but do we even since have that?

[shy pecan]

That’s been with sin for a while. Just recently a passive as of TWW

[undone flame]

ahh i was looking at the talents and were unable to see it thanks

i see it now ones more thanks

[sweet karma]

what build is everybody running for heroic dungeon?

[restive hawk]

what are our crafts this week, girls?

[haughty lantern]

according to my notes, bracers, and either boots or belt

[hexed frost]

Are normal raids out yet?

[restive hawk]

nope

[haughty lantern]

not until sept 10th

so 2 weeks

[waxen oyster]

Why would normal raids be out

if heroic raid isnt

and no rwf on twitch

[cinder pebble]

I really dont know how to properly "open" when not from stealth on a chain pull. Do I just spread rupture all the way or do I spread it 1-2 times and then start ST bombing

[tawny geyser]

Do we have new Weakauras so far for the buffs? Like FoK, Stalker Mark etc..

[shy pecan]

Spread rupture ideally for energy (and for scent if you’re talented into it)

[south nest]

i cant get a decent stalkers mark one to work, so i grabbed one off WAGO, then i made a pretty simple one for Darkest Night and Clear the witnesses

[rotund field]

is it 1 spark per week?

or can u get 2

[silk sundial]

Returning to wow for the first time since BFA. Sin was my main throughout legion and bfa. How does sin feel right now? Idc about meta I just wanna make sure it's fun

[naive surge]

!wa

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[waxen oyster]

You can play it in keys without inting

Ramp up in keys is significantly faster.

[south nest]

biggest advantage is not having to play shadowdance imo

[magic reef]

where can I get daggers bigger than 564 ilvl ? i dont see any dungeons drop daggers 👉 👈

[spice surge]

They do drop

[waxen oyster]

Biggest advantage is IC handholds multidotting at the start of a pack for you.

[spice surge]

But you can also craft one for like 10-15k

[silk sundial]

Seems like a lot of people are complaining about the hero tree. Is deathstalker that bad?

[waxen oyster]

its bugged

[magic reef]

do u know wich dung? dont see any in the journal

[waxen oyster]

[south nest]

city of threads

[waxen oyster]

You can also get from the weekly wq thing.

[spice surge]

Make sure youve set your loot spec in the journal to sub or assa

[naive pier]

after the inital spreading of bleeds, should i focus on then like fan of knifes fan of knifes then crimson.. or focus single target to activate caustic spatter?

[spice surge]

And not outlaw

[waxen oyster]

Also deathstalker is just boring

not bad just

dull

[magic reef]

ty

[kindred wind]

coming back to wow for the first time in a while and actually excited about sin being viable in keys...should I avoid sin for the leveling process though?

[desert cove]

sin in leveling is fine

sudden demise goes brrr

[kindred wind]

thank you

[desert cove]

if you want easy mode just do fatebound

[kindred wind]

ice veings /wowhead still the best place to get leveling builds?

fatebound it is lol

[desert cove]

but if you're a sweaty tryhard do deathstalker

[desert cove]

just use the hybrid build off of wowhead

[kindred wind]

don't have time to be a sweatlord anymore lol

damn kid's soccer!

and work

and life

[dark token]

hmm this trinket simming better than the on use stat trinks

[desert cove]

sad

I don't like the trinket

[boreal lichen]

what are the bsi stats for rings ?

[desert cove]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[patent igloo]

What should we be crafting first ?

[novel moss]

Ironclaw Dirk

From my own research

[exotic epoch]

Do we have a pre-raid bis sheet or anything like that anywhere?\

[limber lion]

Highest ilvl is your bis

[novel moss]

He probably means what should we craft/upgrade pre M0/M+

[west willow]

i made 2 of these cuz these crests are kinda irrelevant

[novel moss]

And sadly we do not have anything official yet

Yeah like Ex has done get 2 of those bad boys

[west willow]

you will replace anything you make right now with m0/normal raid loot

[novel moss]

Exactly so go nuts

[west willow]

assuming you used weathered crests

I don't think I'll spend Carved crests

[novel moss]

No defo do not spend carved

but weathered have at it

Alot of people are already 580+ overall

upgrade crafting w/e the fck they want

[rotund field]

Do u need sparks to make those?

[novel moss]

No

[west willow]

no

[novel moss]

Just some gold ready to go 😄

[spice surge]

Enchant those daggers brother, it costs like 200g for a r1

[balmy condor]

Hmmmmm should be under core but yeah I’m gonna grab base afenar whenever he’s done with it to merge in the other two specs

[spice surge]

You already spent like 15k on the dagger

[west willow]

i literally JUST made them lol

what ench are we using for m+

[spice surge]

Id just recommend to grab the cheaper ones, which is likely just the vers ones

[icy osprey]

do we need rank 3 mats for the 590 weps?

[spice surge]

Because the other ones are way more expensive, so save that money for when you get actual daggers

[west willow]

this is 5k vs 3k for vers

so might just get 2 of these

[waxen oyster]

probably better making 590 pants

than a second 590 dagger

[icy osprey]

we can craft 3 items right

[west willow]

still have 2 more 590s i could make

[icy osprey]

its 30 each

[west willow]

i have enough crests for 4

[waxen oyster]

yeah i got a wep from the wq weekly

like an hour into 80

[icy osprey]

why specifically pants btw

[waxen oyster]

its one of the higher stat pieces

and you already get helm+chest from renown

[nimble tartan]

with sanguine blades in aoe m+ do we watch that energy level alot?

or do we just ignore

[icy osprey]

ah right, didnt have EA so havent farmed renown at all

[waxen oyster]

i mean in the long run it doesnt matter

[novel moss]

I have 195 crests you can make tons if you did content correct xD

[broken oxide]

Hi, does anyone has a stat weight for assa please ?

[hexed frost]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[hazy horizon]

anyone uses lisonna wa ?

[limber lion]

Lisonna does

[icy osprey]

does this mean we want mastery/haste missives for deathstalker or still crit/mastery?

[limber lion]

It means that it literally does not matter and you should sim it

[devout fiber]

What is the best current LFD/Mythic talents for assas? IcyVein, and Wowhead recommendign differnt higns

[limber lion]

Mast/hast could be bis for some, Crit/Vers could be bis for some

[limber lion]

Pins

[urban anvil]

How big is the dps difference with fatebound and deathstalker

[ebon steppe]

Is darkest night desighed to consume animacharged combo points or not

That's confusing tbh

[haughty sand]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

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[hexed frost]

It's bugged

That's why subterfuge supremacy

[spice spire]

In what mode

[nova aspen]

!wa

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[dark token]

whats instance cap

we getting capped spamming hcs

blizz doesnt want u play the game or

[waxen oyster]

10 instances if you manually enter

[slate crown]

Ahh the lessons you learn from World of Warcraft Classic Edition.

[dark token]

we are queueing

hcs

no entering

[grand trail]

is that egg trinket any good from akara first boss

[novel moss]

its literally bis atm and contends with the 2 unavailable other bis ones

[grand trail]

oh i got it from first run

[dark token]

its not bis

these 2 sim higher

[grand trail]

yeah but isnt signet trash for sub

[dark token]

all trinkets trash for sub

these are sub trinkets

i dont see any egg sac for either spec

its not bad, its decent

but not bis

[novel moss]

Every guide says it is so you know just going off that

[grand trail]

got the wax whistle today

[balmy condor]

Guides don’t show pre-raid bis cause it’s a waste of time

[grand trail]

yeah for sure

just was wondering if there smg to pick

[balmy condor]

They also tuned a bunch of trinkets and then sims broke so

[grand trail]

"smg to do"

[balmy condor]

We’ll see I guess

[dark token]

so u just sim for ur char cause of this ^^

[balmy condor]

Right now it’s just stat on use + whatever

But until blizzard fixes their spell data, sims as a whole are just kinda pointless

[novel moss]

He asked if it was any good not if it was pre raid bis

and even your guide says its S tier

so?

[grand trail]

is raidbot working ?

so i can sub again

[balmy condor]

I mean it is S tier, but it’s not S tier pre-raid

[balmy condor]

No

[gusty mirage]

aint no way dog

[balmy condor]

I mean yes, but no

[grand trail]

i usually sub to raidbot in the start of season

i dont mind support them

[balmy condor]

There’s fucked data making all the sims jank

[royal lantern]

i just equiped WE 2 trinkets read good and are not annoying with a higher ilvl lol

so the darkness trinket+darkmoon deck it is

[deep sorrel]

is there faq for best crafted pieces?

[balmy condor]

Wrist/belt/boots like usual

Dawnthread if you really want to embellish, but I probably wouldn’t embellish atm

[jaunty dew]

Honest to god, dungeon with an arcane mage is depressing

Guild mate who plays fire, just swapped to arcane for shits and giggles

And without knowing the spec at all, went from 3rd dps to top dps alongside me lol

She told me "I'm just pressing the things that glow"

Final boss on the bees dungeon QQ

[waxen oyster]

I mean, yes better tuned spec

[jaunty dew]

Oh no doubt

[waxen oyster]

Don't see how it's an issue

[balmy condor]

Mage hero class

[jaunty dew]

That's an understatement

lol

[balmy condor]

Nothing to be done

[waxen oyster]

Yeah I mean who cares

its pre season anyway

and you're talking about blizz's favorite class

[young dust]

am i crazy or this trinket seems crazy good for aligning with deathmark

[jaunty dew]

Its not instant though

I think it has a cast

like puzzle box

[waxen oyster]

It was alot better on beta.

[agile wedge]

team can i find some decent daggers somewhere open world or do i need to farm hc dungeons?

[sage star]

There's no recent change in spark craft recommendations? Crit thread in the lowest ilvl crap slot? (I'm trying to plan out buying KP for a leatherworker now.)

[jaunty dew]

you can just craft 2 590 daggers

[ebon quest]

!wa

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[mild oracle]

any1 got a crafting guide for dummies my brain is exploding trying to figure this out 💀

[jaunty dew]

Craft what?

[mild oracle]

daggers

590

im too confused with the different quality of mats etc

[jaunty dew]

Just post a public order for a weathered harbinger crest

[sage star]

Enchanted Weathered Harbinger Crests in an item make it 590 ilvl.

[jaunty dew]

not sure who you're answering

[mild oracle]

👍

[jaunty dew]

And then buy 10 iron claw ore and 2 core alloy rank 3

And rank 2 missives for the stats you want

Then just post on trade chat for a black smith who can craft them, you'll find someone easily

They won't take any fee atm, most of them do it for knowledge points/skill ups

[mild oracle]

ty helped a lot

[cyan dew]

Is it worth to craft daggers rn?

[jaunty dew]

imo its not expensive

[rough hull]

why is it that sudden demise does so much more damage right now? is it because the trash has such small life pools in hc dungeons?

[balmy condor]

Yep

[jaunty dew]

and the crests you're using isn't arent that worthy

[rough hull]

i mean

[balmy condor]

Yep

Especially large if you have a non-80 in your group

Those mfers do some janky scaling

[snow kindle]

blizz nerfing that is criminal

i get it but damn thats fucked up lol

[agile wedge]

so this crest does not interfere with the recommended craftingorder from whispyr?

[balmy condor]

It’s entirely expected yeh

[agile wedge]

like wasting resources

[balmy condor]

It’s a dogshit crest

[clever sapphire]

arakara second boss, not sure what you mean i just oneshot it

[balmy condor]

You’ll get higher tier crests to use

[midnight mist]

wait is sub meta ?

I tought it was sin season

[clever sapphire]

confirmed

[midnight mist]

brb i have to reroll

!

[balmy condor]

Outlaw tier Zac

[midnight mist]

oh it is ?

i guess you must have insider infos okok

I will reroll again

[balmy condor]

Sims the highest

[midnight mist]

oh ye indeed

I saw that sheet

you are right

[sage star]

Oh my bad.

[snow kindle]

sub dust meta once again

[midnight mist]

wait im getting conflicted infos now

its sub again

alright

[snow kindle]

[midnight mist]

imma get some daggers

[jaunty dew]

No, you'll be using crests you gain from HC dungeons

They're legit worthless once S1 starts and you go into m+/raids

[balmy condor]

I blame these minmax Google docs

[feral wasp]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[balmy condor]

Now everyone’s scared to just play the game because what if I spend 15 heroic dungeon crests or a delve key

I’ll be ruined forever!

My legacy!

[agile wedge]

thats actually a thing

sadly

[waxen oyster]

my legacy

definitely won't be replaced

first m0

[narrow heart]

does anyone have the aura id for deathstalkers mark

[balmy condor]

Hover the tooltip of the debuff

[arctic crown]

Hold on the assassination deathstalker stat priority is mastery haste?

[balmy condor]

What

No

[balmy condor]

Oh what

[arctic crown]

It’s crit mastery right?

[waxen oyster]

It's ilvl

[runic hinge]

Stop caring about stat prio and just play the game

[balmy condor]

I guess I have idtip or something I’ll log on rq

[runic hinge]

If you get a higher ilvl piece equip it

[narrow heart]

Thanks for doing that

[arctic crown]

I just craft everything

And I don’t want to craft a piece with versa haste

That’s why the question

[narrow heart]

ty

[ebon quest]

no problem

[balmy condor]

Damn beat me to it

[ebon quest]

i cheated, i was already on 😛

[shy pecan]

It honestly doesn't matter. Vers is perfectly fine for sin

[limber lion]

Then don'r

Doesn't matter

[narrow heart]

used a plater mod to keep track of mob with mark on it, blue is rupture, orange is garrote, green is rupture + garrote

purple is mark

[delicate egret]

Any recommendations for what build to run for dungeons? WoWhead recommends bleed build for "most" players, but idk what the difference is.

[spring socket]

what trinkets we wanting to aim for from heroics ?

[nimble tartan]

guys am i rich

[ebon quest]

you are rich in spirit my friend

[iron carbon]

How's the priority works? 🙂

How works garrote + mark?

For example

[narrow heart]

purple has highest prio, then garrote + rupture, garrote, rupt

typicall open with dots on marked target so works p good

[iron carbon]

I prefer tracking garrote + rupture with icon, color green for spatter and Mark on my weakaura

[narrow heart]

i dont like the blue though

[limber lion]

Bleed build for everything. Other builds rely on KB doing a bulk of the work and if you don't get full value out of it, it's a bit wasted

The bleed build however lacks in ST a bit

[iron carbon]

Too much color kills the color

[true rapids]

Is there a macro to target the mob that has the mark on it?

[balmy condor]

yeh, that's why I only color mark/caustic

[grand trail]

got second akara egg kek

this farm is fast

[iron carbon]

Oh @balmy condor got a question about you plater

[balmy condor]

ya

[iron carbon]

Do you color trash from dungeon depending what they do?

[balmy condor]

I will

[limber lion]

Just merge quazi + your favorite plater

[narrow heart]

i like that idea

[balmy condor]

yeh

someone yesterday said quazi's isn't updated yet

[timber meadow]

!plater

[balmy condor]

so I haven't yoinked his mob coloring

[limber lion]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[limber lion]

Yup

[balmy condor]

but I will when it's updated

[limber lion]

I'll try to update mine as well

[iron carbon]

I used to use ramfam plater profile and update it by myself but it take so much time

[spice spire]

Man committing theft live

Unreal

[spice spire]

RIP a real one

[balmy condor]

this plater for the streets

[spice spire]

Does that mean the weak aura is for the sheets?

Because I definitely FREAKED it

[balmy condor]

famouse maplestory player ramfam

[knotty rose]

!wa

[spice spire]

Oh we met the timer

It’s a few messages above friend

[iron carbon]

I miss this goat

[spice spire]

Same

[nimble tartan]

guys they made a trinekt for us only

its says rogue

[spice spire]

@echo geyser

[nimble tartan]

a dk could never be nimble or quick

[nova aspen]

will the plater profile auto update?

or will we need to re-grab

[prisma coral]

what is the yellow dotted border trying to communicate?

[daring hamlet]

are there any alliance racials better than dwarf for prog? generally speaking

[balmy condor]

I don't think plater has an auto-update feature

[iron carbon]

Use WA companion

They got a plater updater

[balmy condor]

yeh okay

then that will auto-update

I have everything on wago

should grab it

[nimble tartan]

wait the trinket finally worked

it has not worked in any dungeon ever for me

but it procced in the theater

lmaoo

[nova aspen]

i was using quazi's for awhile but yours is great for tracking stuff

[iron carbon]

You need to press "update" still

[glossy remnant]

is there an APL somewhere which I could look for at for deathstalker?

[iron carbon]

But I'm not sure about the whole profile

But mod / script got updater in wa companion

[balmy condor]

apl's are all on raidbots

[spice spire]

The whole ass APL?

[undone eagle]

Is assa best spec meta for rogues regarding pve most likely m+ ?

[balmy condor]

bro is rawdogging code

[glossy remnant]

you mean the github?

[spice spire]

God damn

No

[balmy condor]

I mean they're on github too

[spice spire]

If you do a sim

You can just see the apl

[iron carbon]

Don't speak meta before start of season

[undone eagle]

Oh just returned to the game i remember season is not out yet mb 💙

[prisma coral]

dont put that out there into the universe

[glossy remnant]

ty ty @spice spire

[undone eagle]

Btw Whispyr glad to see u around still, much appreciated from your work

[balmy condor]

[iron carbon]

No problem brother

[craggy beacon]

Do professions even matter for dps gain nowadays?

[balmy condor]

no

[iron carbon]

Nope

[craggy beacon]

sick ty

[undone eagle]

Last time i got help here was during shadowlands, may this exp be blessed 🤣🤣

[blazing pumice]

as in change the colour of the nameplate, yours changes colour with caustic up

that mod did what I wanted

I've already been using your profile for years kek

[heavy roost]

which spec is everyone running off of wowhead for dungeons?

the cleave or full aoe bleed?

[iron carbon]

Bleed

Cleave require a target to be alive long enough to be useful

So, high key level imo

[heavy roost]

makes total sense ty

[faint path]

any plater aura?

profile* ıdk what they called

[iron carbon]

!wa

[balmy condor]

^

bot is down for a couple min

[iron carbon]

here

Oh crap

[faint path]

Thank you

[iron carbon]

I'm slow

[royal lantern]

its class based

sorry mate

[stiff aspen]

Taking bets on whether or not ER will be changed to trigger mark

or making garrote apply it from stealth

Or rupture extending Slice and dice

or Slice and dice getting removed

[nimble tartan]

chilll

they gonna mess up more stuff

[balmy condor]

why tf would rupture need to extend slice and dice

[nimble tartan]

i just want them to fix us

[balmy condor]

[quiet magnet]

what's the recommended weapon enchant so far until Depths drops ?

[balmy condor]

whatever floats your boat

[royal lantern]

just grab one of the secondary stat ones, cus they are not that expensives and will be even cheaper soon

if you want a weapon enchant

[stiff aspen]

It'd be nice in open world since sudden demise kills things before I get to envenom. Or in a dungeon when S&D is about to fall off and I want to get some bleeds up before hitting envenom

[balmy condor]

can't say I relate

[stiff aspen]

Def low on the priority

[balmy condor]

but if it works it works I guess

[royal lantern]

i mean, in the open world casting SnD is kinda pointless anyway

cus like

SnD needs extended fights

not enemys that die in 4-6 globals

[stiff aspen]

Yea, I should just disable the weak aura in open world

[tired gull]

just make snd passive

[stiff aspen]

instructions unclear, bringing back shadow dance

[river hawk]

guys its important to track passives of hero talents like darkest nigth or momentum of despair to max dmg?

or dont matter?

[shy pecan]

Darkest yes since you would want to use it to apply to your target again

[runic hinge]

It’s always darkest before the dawn

[stiff aspen]

Momentum is gonna get used up in any scenario where you're FoKing anyway so I don't track it

but darkest is worth tracking just to remind you to go from 5+ finishers to using a 7 to reapply mark

[river hawk]

im started again with rogue os i ask this, what u mean with using finisher to reapply mark, when the mark dissapear from boss u need to do 5+ finish to reapply?

[shy pecan]

7

[river hawk]

oh shit

[shy pecan]

Read the capstone for Deathstalker.

[river hawk]

i thought i put the mark only in stealth

and need to vanish to do that again xD

[shy pecan]

No

[river hawk]

yeah mb

so... if u use the reprimend to get the 7 easy

apply the mark

[stiff aspen]

I wish

but it doesnt work

[river hawk]

lel why

[stiff aspen]

reprimand doesn't count as a full finisher for the purposes of reapplying mark through darkest

at least currently

[river hawk]

i see

[stiff aspen]

praying for a fix

[balmy condor]

!dn

[spice spire]

!dn

[balmy condor]

oh

righ

moroes broke

[spice spire]

Damn

Was hoping it was deez nuts

[balmy condor]

no, that's literally the command

!dn

[subtle drift]

How much dps difference is there betweeh the ironclaw stones and the wax?

[balmy condor]

idk if wax is implemented in sims

but it is worse

[stiff aspen]

It’d be such a flavor win if wax was just slightly better than runes

Or even just the same thing

[balmy condor]

hard disagree

[worldly sail]

hard agree let me save gold

[balmy condor]

I don't wanna go out and pickpocket for hours

[subtle drift]

Ty

[stiff aspen]

If they made it drop instead of pocketing it’d be a little better

[ionic scarab]

just a question do u dont use "crimson tempest" in ur rota?

[balmy condor]

also why would random kobold wax do the same as a trained blacksmith

[ebon quest]

don't you just macro pick pocket to all your stealth abilities?

[stiff aspen]

Since you’ll kill bolds in dungeons anyway.

[balmy condor]

not in single target no

[nimble tartan]

i do not like this machine event!!

[ionic scarab]

ah okay okay

[ionic scarab]

hm but there is multi target rota or am i stupid now :D

ah nvm

im blind :D

[deep sorrel]

quick question guys, are these available rn? and if so, which is best :o?

[daring hamlet]

are we supposed to shiv right after deathmark but before kingsbane or hold shiv for vanish later on in opener

[river hawk]

as i understand correctly the last 8 secs of kingsbane

[deep sorrel]

according to wowhead guide, if you only have 1 save it for end of kingsbane, if you have two do both

[uneven plume]

Notters Kingsbane WA handles that for you

[brazen fern]

!set

[uneven plume]

itll flash the Shiv icon

when to Shiv again during kingsbane

[daring hamlet]

okay cool, so with two shiv charges we shiv at the start and then again towards the end with vanish

[uneven plume]

DM > Shiv> KB

And Shiv again when it flashes

[severe sparrow]

lisonna's does too if you prefer bars vs flashing icons

[uneven plume]

and Envenom as much as possible during that whole rotation

[daring hamlet]

ye im just tryna figure out when that is rather than just "when wa tells me" but thats helpful to know about the weakaura as well

[uneven plume]

you basically need to keep the shib buff up during the whole rotation

shiv*

or debuff*

on the mob

[daring hamlet]

got it, so you cover the first 8 seconds and then as shiv is expiring to cover the next 8 seconds

[uneven plume]

pretty much

[daring hamlet]

makes sense, appreciate it

[uneven plume]

and keep the envenom buff up

[severe sparrow]

downtime is illegal

[uneven plume]

its good to use Tea macrod with DM

so you have the energy

to keep the envenom buffs rolling

[river hawk]

u have the macro?

[uneven plume]

its a simple one

they dont share GCD

so you can just /cast spell / cast spell /cast spell

[deep sorrel]

anyone know which embellish to use for daggers?

[river hawk]

okok ty

[severe sparrow]

i feel like i got out of the habit of macroing anything other than cold blood on rogues and that one only cuz it's a shit button

[uneven plume]

my DM and Tea are hard to press due to my keybindings

so i just macros it to DM. 99% of the time i have a tea up for DM anyways

[severe sparrow]

i legitimately dont know how people play wow without a multi button mouse

[subtle drift]

When there is a trinket not listed in the tier list

It probably sucks hard?

[uneven plume]

those are for my trinkets or mouseover dispells on my casters

[severe sparrow]

i have small hands so most of the keyboard is way too hard to use

[balmy condor]

my left hand just presses buttons idk

[severe sparrow]

lol

[balmy condor]

then it's not a season 1 trinket

[subtle drift]

Can't find this one

Oh.. s1 = dungeon rota

Nvm

[severe sparrow]

back in the day i shifted my wasd over and got used to using esdf so i could get a little more coverage

[balmy condor]

ya

[uneven plume]

the best trinkets rn the dungeons arent even out yet

[cinder parrot]

anyone has a good pre bis gear set?

[balmy condor]

can't wait for them to tune all the trinkets again

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[uneven plume]

yah the GB one is nuts

6k mastery is absurd

[shy pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/yoink-cat-dragged-gif-1263419341748157821

[uneven plume]

i dont really remember the spyglass one

[spice surge]

Is it though

[uneven plume]

kinda. Doesnt that make our bleeds and poisen do giga

[shy pecan]

[uneven plume]

especially during execute phase?

[shy pecan]

It's not as much as you might think

[spice surge]

It sims roughly the same as transmitter

But transmitter is also delayed by like 33%

[uneven plume]

transmitter is the minigame one right

[spice surge]

Its just a trinket

Its not insane

At same ilvl it sims like 6% lower than ashes

But obviously you cant get ashes at mythic tww ilvl

[balmy condor]

yeh trinket/embellishments/cantrips are insano nerfed

compared to df

enchants as well

[river hawk]

its good too to macro tea in the kingsbane?

or only DM

[balmy condor]

neither

[shy pecan]

I'm guessing the trinket power levels have been reduced to focus less on borrowed power?

[spice surge]

Idk its just weird

Tier sets being like 3%

[river hawk]

thats for my question?

[spice surge]

Feels so odd

[balmy condor]

yes

[river hawk]

sooo its bad to macro tea in both? haha

when u use tea exactly?

[balmy condor]

it's bad to macro tea in both

[shy pecan]

Yeah, especially when some tier sets were getting like... I dunno, 25% power from them in S3/4?

[river hawk]

oh okay

[balmy condor]

you use tea during shiv for energy

[river hawk]

so its better macro tea in shiv...

[uneven plume]

just macro it into every spell

[river hawk]

YEAH FUCK IT

[balmy condor]

respectfully I am going to lose my shit

[devout mist]

macro it to Lclick

[river hawk]

its jk

but i need to understand

when is better

[balmy condor]

if you macro it to shiv you're going to overcap during deathmarks

[toxic night]

hey please if i may ask a question ; why in the wowhead guide with vicious venoms we drop the fan of knives in the rotation guide ?

[spice surge]

Vicious venom makes mutilate do more damage

So mutilate does more damage than fok does even with the proc

[toxic night]

ah alright thnak you

🙂

[hard widget]

are you supposed to tea before DM > shiv > KB?

[balmy condor]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[river hawk]

xD

[balmy condor]

you use tea during shiv for energy

you use

tea

thistle tea

DURING

shiv

for the energy

tea = 100 energy

[devout mist]

i dont get it

[balmy condor]

if you no get 100 energy

[devout mist]

repeat it

[balmy condor]

do not press

[tulip pilot]

But their Hekili says to use tea when it says to use tea

[balmy condor]

press tea and you get 100 energy? good press

press it

[devout mist]

do i press tea in dance?

[mystic dragon]

Instructions unclear, covered in tea

[river hawk]

im going to macro tea in W

then i go forwars use tea

[balmy condor]

I'm going to untalent tea

[tulip pilot]

Do i bind tea to between the eyes at 100 energy?

[balmy condor]

this ability seems way too confusing

[river hawk]

if u dont use u cannot teach

nice

[uneven plume]

just use tea whever you are at 300 energy

[south tide]

Can you macro tea into tea?

[balmy condor]

now that is tech

[tulip pilot]

Yo dawg I heard you like tea so i put tea into your tea so you can bind your tea

[river hawk]

whispyr sorry for all BUT can i ask another question about TEA? xD

[covert lily]

sup, should i cast shiv before or after kingsbane ?

[balmy condor]

[river hawk]

HAHAHAHA

[devout mist]

when do u cast tea again?

[river hawk]

I get it, u use for ENERY during, but for what for the plus dmg and do more stuff?

[severe sparrow]

I macro tea with detection personally

[covert lily]

with shiv

[balmy condor]

is this before or after kingsbane

[eager gazelle]

could be right to left

[river hawk]

yeah but thats if u haver 2 shivs

[covert lily]

looks like before

[tulip pilot]

Whispyr needs the hotline number stat

[eager gazelle]

you never know

[river hawk]

i use 1

[daring hamlet]

is vicious venoms still bugged at all?

[balmy condor]

incredible deduction

[covert lily]

cheers

[devout mist]

so macro tea to KB

got it

[river hawk]

BUT THATS IF U HAVE 2 SHIVS!

i have only 1!!

[balmy condor]

not affected by shiv

[river hawk]

u need to use the only shiv last 8secs of kb

[hard widget]

was curious because of the mastery effect for tea xD

[balmy condor]

at least according to this

but idk

maybe pins wrong

[mystic dragon]

Real question, are we supposed to be taking double shiv in keys or nah? All the guides just say shiv at the ass end of kingsbane but it shouldnt be up by the end of it but the talent builds don't include it

[daring hamlet]

okay, I noticed on wowhead the recommended raid build includes vicious but not sangine blades - should we be using sanguine blades until that specific bug is fixed?

[balmy condor]

no

[daring hamlet]

roger

[balmy condor]

vicious is better already

[river hawk]

thats why i ask my shiti only have 1

[red copper]

i know whispyr is having a mental break from the silly questions but ima ask another, is deathstalker brand working as of right now?

[dusty zenith]

Can the wowhead author update his guide please , whispyr don’t you know who writes them

[river hawk]

we need to pay whispyr

but we are rogues...

so we dont

[mystic dragon]

Whispyr is currently overdosed on tea memes atm

[tulip pilot]

I pick pocket his knowledge for free

[river hawk]

we all do

[balmy condor]

what does that even MEAAAAAAAAAN

[tulip pilot]

He owes us for everytime we have to hear him say "Hiya"

[dusty zenith]

Brand doesn’t work for ER I believe

[balmy condor]

!dn

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

NO BOT

[dusty zenith]

Beepboop

[balmy condor]

any of these

[river hawk]

what is that for?

[balmy condor]

the picture I linked

[dusty zenith]

Can you add tea usage to that screenshot?

[royal lantern]

the only thing im skipping is the guides and isntead ask questions

[red copper]

Nvm i figured it out thanks

[river hawk]

automaticed the answers is amazing

[river hawk]

HAHAHAHAH

[balmy condor]

[red copper]

sorry for your aneurism

[balmy condor]

what was it

out of morbid curiosity

[river hawk]

im crying right now

love the dc

❤️

[devout mist]

https://tenor.com/view/tea-illusion-gif-3432243

[river hawk]

XDDD

[balmy condor]

why

[devout mist]

[red copper]

Due to the playstyle of sub I would open garrot rupture into ambush but do to no subtu i didnt open with the ambush and was not getting the stacks just a silly mistake on my end sorry.

[balmy condor]

ah

yeah that's a classic

[tulip pilot]

I do have a question

[balmy condor]

the fact that they didn't put the mark on garrote

[tulip pilot]

What is your favorite Tea?

[balmy condor]

is really strange

[devout mist]

the poshest of teas

[red copper]

I dont really understand why any of the main abilities coming from stealth wouldnt apply it

[devout mist]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-anime-monster-energy-drink-miss-kobayashis-dragon-maid-kanna-kamui-gif-14966279

[river hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/pazzin-kaguya-sama-monster-energy-gif-27333414

[tulip pilot]

Must be talented into the high blood pressure talent

[grim jay]

Paradise still better tho

[balmy condor]

is monster energy steeped

[grim jay]

And the golden pineapple is equal

[devout mist]

gotta keep the calories low

he is on a cut

[balmy condor]

my muscles are on a cut

but my brains on a bulk

amen

[mystic dragon]

Wheymen

[devout mist]

[river hawk]

wait u have a guide in YT

a lot of knowledge

[balmy condor]

waiting

[devout mist]

see if tea is timestamped

[balmy condor]

it isn't

and I actually forgot to talk about it in that video

[devout mist]

useless guide then

[balmy condor]

[river hawk]

u need to do it

[balmy condor]

I had to answer it in the comments

[river hawk]

but ur cooking another guide?

for pin tea i mean

[balmy condor]

m+ yeah

not tea

[river hawk]

without tea?

[devout mist]

MY DAY IS RUINED

[river hawk]

how u dare...

[balmy condor]

ONE DOES NOT COOK TEA

ONE BREWS TEA

[devout mist]

is boiling water cooking tho?

[river hawk]

put more enfasis on the tea one pls

[balmy condor]

uhhh

idk maybe I guess

[devout mist]

then making tea is cooking

[tired gull]

cookin pasta

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

jonsspaghetti about to educate us on pasta cooking

[devout mist]

oh no

[river hawk]

he delete

[hot linden]

In st without vicious venom build, is fok clear the witnesses higher prio than mutilate?

[devout mist]

[balmy condor]

oh

[balmy condor]

yes

[hot linden]

Sorry I’m just asking assa questions LMAO

[devout mist]

[hot linden]

I only shitpost on my main spec

[balmy condor]

damn

[dusty zenith]

You brew tea but do you……

[devout mist]

u can always shitpost to our neighbours the outlaws, whenever i go to that channel its full shitposting

[river hawk]

nobody writing there

is dead

[hot linden]

They need something to do while they wait in lfg

[balmy condor]

You brew tea but do you beyonce's husband's friend

[dusty zenith]

Ice T!!!!!

[balmy condor]

thats what I said no?

[dusty zenith]

You should try it

[balmy condor]

can't

I'm in that twilight zone between just gay enough to slam monsters like water but not gay enough to be deeply into brewing coffee/tea

[dire sparrow]

do we wanna garrote x2/3 on the same target cause of deathstalkers mark? for inc mutilate dmg

[balmy condor]

and I would also never take sweet tea away from the south

[balmy condor]

okay back it up a second what

are we in aoe

[dire sparrow]

might have missread logging in lmao. But yeah aoe

[frosty coral]

Hey, is there a guide on what to seek in early gear for assa (especialy what to craft 590)

[spice surge]

It doesnt really matter

[dire sparrow]

ok nvm me tbh

[spice surge]

But a mainhand and then whatever slots you havent upgraded from hc dungeons or gotten from random wekkly quest rewards

[balmy condor]

okay so in aoe, you're spreading garrote. If you cast on the same target, the target garrote will overwrite, the 2 bonus will spread

ambush or a max cp envenom would apply the mark

the mark increases mut damage on consumption, not application

[frosty coral]

ty !

[dusty zenith]

Open with ambush if you have mark right

Or need to mark

[balmy condor]

yes

[primal jolt]

important question, is there an icon that looks like monster energy drink to macro it instead of tea icon

[balmy condor]

you can import custom icons

[primal jolt]

i could, i could

[patent igloo]

What embellishment are we using?

[compact basin]

hey all! In heroic dungs is anyone noticing that on single target the energy regen is insanely slow and after the opener you can't really press any spells?

or is it something I'm doing wrong

[shy pecan]

That’s how a burst class works

You won’t have energy 24/7. Sometimes, just gotta chill and relax

[compact basin]

Well I'm seeing some assass rogues doing constant 600k+ single target

but after burst I fall down to 300 while they consist

[rancid spade]

Rupture more targets

[compact basin]

In single target

[shy pecan]

I mean, they’re bursting more than 600k to start

[dire sparrow]

more thistle tea

[shy pecan]

Averages out to 600k, sure

[compact basin]

yeah I burst 1.2M

then drop to 300k

[shy pecan]

Then you’ll have another small burst at the 1 minute mark with KB only and then goes from there

[compact basin]

ah okay nice, thank you for the info!

[hoary fulcrum]

whats the weakaura

prompt

[compact basin]

I'll put down a training turnip and rupture it for more energy

[shy pecan]

If the fights are ending like right before you hit your CDs again, then yeah you’ve hit the low point damage wise so can see it being lower

[shy pecan]

Moroes is down atm

[agile wedge]

mh i only got a 583 wp crafted. what did i do wrong? 😄 i asked for 590

[balmy condor]

you didn't set the quality to 5

[agile wedge]

for public i cant change it

as it seems

[balmy condor]

well yeah

[deep sorrel]

weird place to ask ik but, any of you guys able to craft 590 waist? the whole of world chat can only do 586 :/