assassination

[granite mantle]

so its sliiiiightly easier

[worldly sentinel]

For getting used to it, it’s okay to just stick to the main target. Especially with applying Deathstalker. Not alot of damage loss

[granite mantle]

reading the wowhead guide

when do i use vicious venom/SBS/CB/ER?

rather, when do i talent them

when i played sub/outlaw in DF, CB could be macro'd. same here or do i have to bind it?

[jaunty salmon]

How strong is Echoing Reprimand as a button? Like is it worth using echoing reprimand even though the charged points dont trigger Darkest Night?

Do we just use it as a dmg button and ignore the points or can we just spec into something thats tno echoing reprimand?

[thorn fjord]

Send on CD and let it happen naturally

[earnest remnant]

guide is written as it working with it

[thorn fjord]

is it a bug that it doesnt?

Was wondering abou that actually

[worldly sentinel]

ER is still bugged with Deathstalker. So the 7 CP won’t consume a mark.

SBS is in one of the poison meta cleave build. Changes your opener a tiny bit, but played quite alot.

No idea when to play VV.

CB is a macro button combined with mutilate.

[dire spoke]

What's that yap behind my back, huh naughty boy?

[earnest remnant]

should be a bug

VV is played in the single target build iirc

[proven jasper]

Cb is with Envenom

if ur playing it

[nova aspen]

hey guys is it a bug that ER charges doesn't count as max CP envenoms for darkest night?

oh lmao

2 lines up

[random fossil]

I thought I was gonna miss pressing sbs but the new one is hot af with ic

[tawdry gulch]

which 1

[normal mist]

WoWhead per example

its the guide whispyr... writes

[earnest remnant]

welp he writes more than 1

he also writes the method one

[normal mist]

Fair

But I doubt he's writing 2 totally different guides

[earnest remnant]

nah all 3 of the guides linked here should be very very similar

but to answer your question it would just be same opener as you would do on single target in the raid, just press the selected talents in the menu above the rotation section

[narrow heart]

Is there any other solution than Vanish or Shadowmeld to get deathstalkers mark on a target if you're unable to stealth before an encounter?

[normal mist]

if you dont have DN up, no

[royal lantern]

watching people trying to play the AH in realtime is funny af

trying to buy some ore, pay 9k->"error, not avaible anymore"->do it again, its 12k now->"error, not avaible anymore"->do it again, its 8k now

[gusty mirage]

what if I have deez nuts up?

[junior rune]

!ui

[red wolf]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[normal mist]

maaan darkest night will be a problem

xD

[pliant remnant]

HEHE

[gusty mirage]

mfer you said DN not me

[normal mist]

ITS FASTER

[earnest remnant]

so is getting deez nuts'd

[gusty mirage]

GOT EM

[earnest remnant]

[normal mist]

GODDAMN IT

xDDDDDDDDDDD

[viral ice]

how are you guys tracking who has the deathstalker mark and caustic splash in the middle of 20 mobs?

[royal lantern]

is "dont mindlessly hit stuff" an answer?

[tropic tundra]

I think so

because both should be your 'main target'

[gusty mirage]

no

[tropic tundra]

if things go wrong well your mut target is the cs target

plater options may help?

[gusty mirage]

ye best bet is custom name plates

[viral ice]

so spread dots then stick to one guy

[tropic tundra]

yeah thats our aoe since 10.2

cds going on them will spread

giga poison damage from kingsbane

[viral ice]

i have plater with ghost auras to show who doesnt have dots, just hard to see after the initial ambush opener when swapping targets to apply more bleeds

[proven jasper]

Colored name plates can help, usually the elite mob in packs for me is purple and thats my mob that ill blow up and easy to track

[tropic tundra]

so you can add something like, highlighting the one with those / changing colors

[proven jasper]

Plater has that

[tropic tundra]

yeah

[pale plank]

can someone tell me about the main difference between fatebound and deathstalker? how different are they dps wise? bcz for the love of god i dont wanna play with this anymore

[viral ice]

ohh okay that could help a lot thanks

[proven jasper]

What is with the er hate

it only helps u

[pale plank]

lmao been hating it since SL

[iron valve]

no one is forcing you to play ER

[pale plank]

thats why i am asking how much the difference is between fatebound and deathstalker

[earnest remnant]

yes im forcing him

[proven jasper]

how could u

[pale plank]

[proven jasper]

iirc ds to fatebound is like a 2% difference

[earnest remnant]

if i have to suffer, then so does that person

[willow falcon]

is cold blood not working properly in weakauras? can't make it to desaturate on cd

[pale plank]

what are u suffering form??

[earnest remnant]

DN withdrawls

[pale plank]

if its a close like 2% then forget that ER crap i aint playing it

[pale plank]

dn?

[earnest remnant]

@gusty mirage

[last nebula]

So do you kinda have to have subterfuge to play deathstalker? else you can't garrote from stealth

[earnest remnant]

no?

Subterfuge does 0 for Assa

they already get the 6sec garrotes after stealth

[last nebula]

But you can't use garrote silence talent yeah

[sullen monolith]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

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[earnest remnant]

i think it still falls in under improve garrote talent (im not sure)

i havent done m+ as Assa since prepatch

so

i could very well be wrong about that bit

[last nebula]

It's the 'Iron Wire' talent, which makes garrote silence when used from stealth, but since deathstalker only uses ambush, I think I can't really use that talent 😦

[dense cove]

sorry if this is a stupid question, but i can't find an answer. if you're not playing with amplifying poison is deadly the lethal poison of choice? any case to be picking instant?

[earnest remnant]

heard from the voices in my head (whispyr) that ironwire is tied to Improved garrote talent

so no you dont need Subterfuge for it

[iron valve]

iron wire still applies up to 6 seconds after leaving stealth like improved garrote

on dummies, anyway

so yes, you don't need subterfuge and can still open with ambush for deathstalker

[last nebula]

Oh wtf

awesome

[fathom minnow]

guys what do u think darkmoon deck cards are ok for start?

what exact will be better to buy

[worldly sentinel]

Deadly, yes!

[normal mist]

Just for ilvl

[balmy condor]

You’re a yapper king

[lime light]

Quick question: on Wowhead there is an inconsistency in builds when it comes to ST on the pre season overview and the talent build page. The overview plays vicious venoms, while the talent builds page ST does not. What is the correct one?

[balmy condor]

Vicious

But they should both be vicious idk why they aren’t

[hot linden]

do I hold er for deathmark?

[silk bane]

nope send on cd

[lime light]

ty ❤️ Yeah, i suppose most ppl use the overview, but still. Thought I'd mention it.

[balmy condor]

The overview is the large majority of guide clicks yeh

Ill get it fixed no clue how it happened

[lime light]

Thanks!

[royal lantern]

~2%

[wide ferry]

Anyone else getting knocked out of stealth constantly?

[pale plank]

Nice, I am willing to go up to -5% dps just to not play with ER

[balmy condor]

Holy shit you’re so close to making double vanish viable

Just push it to 5.5

One more rep

[silk bane]

NO KB ENJOYERS RISE UP

CRAB BUILD WILL DOMINATE TRUST

[balmy condor]

[silk bane]

no kb is 5.5?

[balmy condor]

Double vanish

Is no kb also 5.5?

[silk bane]

I think it was closer to like 7

but honestly close enough

what u lose in damage u gain in aura

+1000

[limpid hearth]

based and zdps pilled

[dense cove]

anyone have the fatebound assa dungeon build handy?

[clever socket]

hi, what is the difficulty of assa compared to outlaw or other classes in general?

[thorn fjord]

OL high apm easier prio .. Sin lower APM slightly more complicated playstyle (For dungeons atleast)

[clever socket]

i see, thanks

[thorn fjord]

Think BTE is bugged currently tho.. Not sure if OL is the play atm

But havent been keeping track

[pale plank]

its a sacrifice i have to make!

[glass spade]

If I break stealth with ambush to apply death stalkers mark, will my immediate garrote be an “improved garrote” since it is within 6 seconds of breaking stealth?

[thorn fjord]

Yep

[glass spade]

Ty ty… I am switching to assassination from sub and I feel like such a noob all over again haha

[unique sorrel]

anyone got suggestions for a plater mod for ordering debuffs?

[strange python]

@balmy condor , is the sanguine blades build worth it?

I'm noticing a few things as a result of the bug where echoing doesn't interact with deathstalkermark...

1- We're having to spend a lot of energy to keep the evenon buff active
2- Farming 7 CB to remark the target costs a lot of energy
3- Using evenon buffed with Darknest night and Rapid injection costs a lot of energy

So it's becoming very difficult to maintain 150 energy

[agile monolith]

hi guys , any idea how lingering darkness is working on the deathstalker hero talents ?

[stark mirage]

when doing dungeons at 70-71, sudden demise does barely any damage, is that some scaling stuff/issues?

[wicked carbon]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Xxf9DqQKLbdmGHwF#fight=last&type=casts&source=11&view=timeline
I tried my best to apply your recommendations from our chat yesterday, would love your thoughts on this @balmy condor

[wraith pebble]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[granite mantle]

where does the "mutilated flesh" debuff come from?

do i need to track it on plater? or is it just extra dmg

[red wolf]

that's probably doomblade?

[balmy condor]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[balmy condor]

You don’t have to use sanguine in single target, vicious is good

[silk bane]

its doomblade, no need to track

[granite mantle]

ah youre prob right. so i can turn it off my plater right? just extra dmg dont need to worry about it

kk cool

[balmy condor]

how? Lingering darkness is working?

As intended I guess

[balmy condor]

Yes

[agile monolith]

i cant see its uptime

[granite mantle]

whats the debuff i should be maintaining with envenom? i dont see a debuff when i apply it

[silk bane]

wel... u say that... but my queens w/e trinket doing 30% more damage cuz its shadow says differently kekw

unless they fixed that too, man maybe we gotta do a full bug check pass one of these days

[balmy condor]

Gar mut rup, then the slice and dice from the bone spike cp

Wasting a lot of time getting rupture up after getting snd going

[balmy condor]

Didn’t you hear, that’s intended

Alongside damage trinkets doing 50% more damage

[silk bane]

wait hold on

does this also apply

to queens trinket?

cuz that thing already wasnt bad

another 50% and a 30% abuse

idk

[balmy condor]

Should apply to everything damage related yes

[silk bane]

@spice surge are we cooking here? what do u think

[wicked carbon]

Aight, I'll prioritize it over SnD. Rest looks ok ?

[balmy condor]

Yeh looks fine

[spring socket]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[wicked carbon]

Alright thanks a lot man

[agile monolith]

is there a wa to look at its uptime ?

[spice surge]

Idk if the 50% was only to damage trinket or not

[silk bane]

we can definately do a pass and check most of them I think. either in game, or just going over spell data.

I might do a pass next week once game is fully live

just for bug fixes at least

[noble siren]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[balmy condor]

There’s a buff you can track but idk why you would want to do that

You don’t play around it at all

[balmy condor]

It’s a buff you maintain

[languid gate]

Is it worth to get A Dmoondeck?

[balmy condor]

Nah

[normal mist]

why noooot

its only 5k in the ah

(i actually bought one, lol 5k is a joke)

[granite mantle]

@balmy condor why is shiv black listed in your plater profile? shouldnt we be tracking that for kingsbane window?

[balmy condor]

I track it on my weakaura

It’s a target debuff, I use my plater to make multidotting easier

Shiv would just be clutter

[granite mantle]

tru kk

was using luxthos ill switch to yours

[balmy condor]

It’s basically just the same reason I don’t track crimson tempest on nameplate either

[granite mantle]

ye makes sense

[balmy condor]

[opal scroll]

Is there an updated buglist?

[subtle tundra]

In bfa dark moon decks were hundreds of thousand of gold day 1😭

[normal mist]

they were also like that day 1

wait let me rephrase it

day -3

[subtle tundra]

They didn't plummet in price that fast

[limber lion]

And some of them were actually bis even in end game

The tornado one or whatever for casters

shesh

[junior aurora]

no, bfa darkmoon decks kept price for a while

[balmy condor]

The one in the pins is still up to date for the most part

There hasn’t been any big hotfixes addressing them

[opal scroll]

Gotcha thanks 👍

[timid sonnet]

what do you think is the ilvl value of the head enchant?

[runic hinge]

69

[junior aurora]

nice

[balmy condor]

During amirdrassil it was around 5 or 6 ilvl

[nova aspen]

loving deathstalker

[sturdy sequoia]

which is the "best" assa darkmoon trinket? i mean they r so cheap, why not 😄 even if they r "trash"

[nova aspen]

ive retired outlaw

[timid sonnet]

So you are saying I should upgrade to this 571 head from my 528 head enchanted head

😛

[nova aspen]

yes

50 ilvls of agility is superior

[balmy condor]

You should sim

!tierbreak

[prisma monolith]

You will not want to break your tier until roughly 40 or 50 item levels above your tier set, at which point you should simulate yourself through top gear to get direct, accurate answers. This is highly dependant on your gear as a character so make sure you check with a sim first before swapping/deleting gear

[nova aspen]

oh its a tier piece then yea ^

[timid sonnet]

no its not a tier

thats my off tier piece

to

[silk bane]

u can still sim it. but should be safe to replace

[timid sonnet]

kk

[forest nacelle]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[forest nacelle]

i c, been playing DS wrong xD

[jaunty lava]

Anyway to get Flawless Form Weakaura ?

[silk bane]

LE's pack has it

[balmy condor]

Flawless form assassination

[silk bane]

once again whispyr hiding the Sin flawless form buffs

hidden behind his only feet

[jaunty lava]

WDYM?

[balmy condor]

My onlyfeet and my pa-toe-Ron

[forest nacelle]

hey, for Fatebound, how much DPS is Rapid injection versus MA? just curious if its a neutral change or.... there is some Large number.

[silk bane]

pa toe ron naaaahhh officers yes thats him lock him up pls ty

[balmy condor]

We don’t have trickster as assassination

[balmy condor]

It’s like 0.3% better to go ma in single target

[jaunty lava]

ahhh wrong sub

sorry bros

[bronze pike]

[forest nacelle]

so tiny

kk 😄

[remote wing]

wow the mushroom part of the hallowfall world event is where its at to max out skiining when from 0 to 100 in 5 mins

[slate scaffold]

[arctic socket]

So

is it normally to feel energy starved

[normal mist]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[normal mist]

read above ^

We run out of energy eventually

[arctic socket]

Yeah i understood the pooling

im just asking if others seemed energy starved

[normal mist]

In single target its normal yes :3

[arctic socket]

[tawdry mantle]

question, how much would i lose if i Vanish-DM macro in the opener instead of waiting out the previous imp. garrote

[normal mist]

There's no reason to do that

[tawdry mantle]

im lazy is the only reason

trying to see if a tiny bit of loss is worth a button

since we sync them afterwards anyway

[celest marlin]

Since when does a simple micro with 2 cast spell name doesnt work ?

[normal mist]

which macro

[hardy venture]

Sorry if bug dumb, but is there a resource for the best gearing option/pathway once you hit 80? Is it just dungeon and world quest grinding?

[celest marlin]

#showtooltip Envenom
/cast Envenom
/cast Echoing Reprimand

example

[pliant remnant]

[royal lantern]

mate, both are active abilitys

on the gcd

lol

[arctic socket]

my other question is how come echoing reprimand the charged combo points doesn't apply marks?

[hardy venture]

Because blizzard is dumb

[normal mist]

You'll be able to farm heroic dungeons on launch if you want to

[arctic socket]

yeah so it's a bug right?

[cerulean walrus]

[arctic socket]

[arctic socket]

where is it in the pins

[cerulean walrus]

Bug List

[arctic socket]

why not just say check the bug list?

[cerulean walrus]

Because it’s in the pins

And then you’d ask me where the bug list is

[arctic socket]

say "bug list in the pins"

[cerulean walrus]

Bug pin pin bug bug pin 📌 🐛 📍 🐜 🧷 🐞

[tawdry mantle]

does Double Jeopardy work with Edge Case?

2 coins both faces?

[nimble tartan]

guys i found a bug with an item

this doesnt drop stacks out of combat so im walkin around with hella extra agi

[mossy leaf]

Anyone try the Darkmoon cards yet? Do they seem kinda doggy?

[balmy condor]

They’re okay as early items but they’ll get replaced real quick

[strange python]

What are the chances of us starting the season with this bug? This is so bad. 😵‍💫

[normal mist]

Big

Unless they suddenly decide to fix stuff

[indigo mulch]

This might be a stupid question but does this ring work with spatter and shiv

[normal mist]

I'm fairly sure it doesn't

It's just another DMG ring and that's it

[indigo mulch]

Hmm okay

does our poison damage give it another stack? O:

[limber lion]

Poison Damage is Nature damage

But stuff like that always has an ICD

So it's not like you pressing FoK once in a pack will give you 10 doses

[indigo mulch]

No of course not.

I'm just curious if the ring interacted with rogues kit or not.

[limber lion]

Well the second line pretty clearly states that it does

But yeah, the damage portion probs does not

[spice surge]

Yes but most of our procs are not nature

And its not even 100% when its nature

so the ring isnt really better for us than anybody else

[limber lion]

Yeah who knows what the mysterious "chance" is anyways

WoW with their loose terms

[indigo mulch]

Its okay i'll say TC said this rouge ring, pls gief.

Noone will know the truth!

[hardy venture]

Last big dumb dumb. What profession are you friends going?

Does that even matter anymore?

[limber lion]

No

Pick the one you like most or want to do

[strange python]

At what ilvl should I start replacing the tier set?

[limber lion]

!tierbreak

[prisma monolith]

You will not want to break your tier until roughly 40 or 50 item levels above your tier set, at which point you should simulate yourself through top gear to get direct, accurate answers. This is highly dependant on your gear as a character so make sure you check with a sim first before swapping/deleting gear

[grim jay]

@slate crown is it normal for your cp weakaura to hide anima charged cp if darkest night is up?

[slate crown]

yeah, it's intentional

[grim jay]

or did it break because I drew it out

any way to make both show?

[slate crown]

Until they decide to fix their shit

I'm suppressing it

sure

Go to condition 2, remove the check on trigger 4's aura

And do the same in condition 3, remove the check on trigger 4's aura

[dense cove]

did you get the 571 from a delve tier 3?

[grim jay]

alright works, thank you

[slate crown]

May need to modify condition 4 as well, just the places where I'm checking trigger 4 is false

np

[grim jay]

you can get those from worldquests

the special ones

where you need to do 3 in that zone to unlock it

[dense cove]

ahh nice, i think i only had 1 of those so far

[grim jay]

there are 2 active

or atleast were

[dark token]

just did follower dungeon

holy fk these guys outdps pugs

the tank pulls kinda slow but you can pull for him whole dungeon without getting kicked

i would do m+ with this group over pugs

the rdruid needs to dps tho

[shut nymph]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[ashen rover]

Hey just returning to the game after s3, im reading the wowhead page and i was looking at the daggers (regicide) and for the offhand it shows as divergent with timestrike on the overview, but i dont see it on the boss loot table, is there a random chance we drop it with timestrike or an entirely different way?

[random fossil]

how hard do i have to hit myself in the head to stop pressing garret from stealth

[normal mist]

Wowhead bug

[ashen rover]

ah alright thanks xd i was trying really hard to understand

[uneven marsh]

I dont see a yellow bar here.Where is your rogue at ?

[dark token]

idk if im playing rogue or monk yet

[little rock]

Thanks for confirming I’m not the only one struggling with this lol

[bleak eagle]

is this to cast ambush for the mark?

[fallen arch]

Rebind ambush to the postion of your garrote in your stealth bar

[fallen onyx]

200iq

is there any darkmoon trinket good?

[normal mist]

Only for ilvl

[fallen onyx]

x.x

[uneven marsh]

Does Caustic Spatter reapply automaticly even with 1 stack already on your target ?
Or do you need to let it fade in order to reapply it?

[normal mist]

You can reapply it to a new target

Be sure that new Target is ruptured and poisoned

[uneven marsh]

But on the same target?

[normal mist]

Wdym

Oh

Lol

Yes you can reapply every time you mutilate

That one target

[true rapids]

questing has gotten me to hate deathstalker so much, every quest that makes you channel then initiate combat without a chance to enter stealth really need a way to apply it without stealth and without chaining

[normal mist]

It's bad yes. You can just play Fatebound for leveling

[grim jay]

or you just dont care because it doesnt matter

#lifehack

[uneven marsh]

So it just go back to 10sec (full duration) debuff on your target, no need to micromanage it

[normal mist]

Exactly that

[uneven marsh]

Thanks god

(thanks Royal too)

[normal mist]

LOL

[true rapids]

or they can make it a little like subterfuge and persist a little kind of dumb that they didnt take it into consideration

[normal mist]

We're all on the same boat brother

[random fossil]

bro i just might, im finna snap fr

[normal mist]

Just so you can actually see

[grim jay]

will end up pretty bad

in m+

[royal python]

hey guys, i just did this in sim, not sure if everything alright, i know this i sin group, but just sounding out in case sims are mis coded

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/shwZAnewz1XvB6h76nsGZD

[normal mist]

thats sub

[indigo mulch]

Pretty sure this is the assassination channel.

[normal mist]

you might want to talk to fuu about that

[royal python]

yes but its 2x what max ilvl should be achieving

[normal mist]

Still something you should show fuu just in case

[royal python]

i have

[balmy condor]

wtf lmao

[indigo mulch]

I wonder if there is some funky stuff going on with the old pieces or something.

[spice spire]

Change it to nightly in case latest is funky

[dark token]

damn this guy is bussin

[indigo mulch]

That is 100% a sim error thing or something :X i tried running it on weekly and it got me 560kish with his gear.

[tall atlas]

IS THERE A CHECklist of shit i should do when i hit 80

[indigo mulch]

Its the latest build that has some bugs in it.

[dark token]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qsTpQ1wzSEk5BZYvxHyDuZ lol noob im at 2.4m

[hot linden]

If I know in mplus packs would live longer than my dots, should I hold vanish til after my opener to reapply?

[indigo mulch]

Quickly upload the profile to simc and watch the sub channel get flooded with FOTM re-rollers

[dense cove]

fastest valorstones farm just world quest and normals this week?

[dark token]

normals and dirt on ground

[hoary remnant]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/a9sq4C7BzycqCMmLNvi7xc please

[indigo mulch]

[hoary remnant]

And also we all suck I am 25% of the sim dps ingame. I gotta learn these new dificult hero talents now

[dark token]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aQ9zkP5fX813XK8Sz3uNDW

sin is popping off too

[indigo mulch]

[dark token]

is this the best darkmoon deck

[dense cove]

are y'all upgrading all your items to 580 or waiting for next week?

[dark token]

im upgrading my mainhand

waiting till heroic dungeon spam to do the rest

[dense cove]

any particular reason for waiting? that gear can only hit 580 as well eh?

is it just cheaper?

[dark token]

i mean i just dont wanna waste valorstones

ill spend if im capped

content is also easy so

[indigo mulch]

I just cba doing normal dun and clicking dirt. ;s

[dark token]

^

im doing sidequests instead

to clean my map up

[indigo mulch]

I'm just doing all the quests then i'll level my alt.

[dark token]

too many !

[dark token]

protip

level your alt

[dense cove]

yeah i guess it costs a lot less to upgrade the heroic stuff

[dark token]

and 100% sidequests on there

then use hide completed warband quest option

dont do them all on main

[indigo mulch]

Yeah but if you get rank 5 on all the factions you can skip all the maps completly. D:

Thats the only reason i'm questing

[hoary remnant]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cw6mSse2pN8365ZbeMdxa9 yes

but its w/e obvs oversimming minimal

[dark token]

i mean

ur doing

4m single target

i dont trust this s im

use nightly or weekly

[hoary remnant]

I do totally legit

We do half of the raid as dps

[indigo mulch]

Latest is so bugged, not sure whats going on though 😄

[hoary remnant]

its not bugged it has the new buffs in. Buffing Rogue 1000%

sorry cant fix deathstalker but buffing you guys

[indigo mulch]

Ah yeah, that must be it.

[royal python]

Morgan day read chats n proceeded to nerf

[tall atlas]

do we ever use crimson tempest?

[hoary remnant]

ofc in aoe why wouldnt u?

[tall atlas]

just sleepy and want answers

thank you

[normal mist]

every m+ build in wowhead uses it

[rotund oak]

im exhausted but managed to get 3 epics today from renown vendors

[indigo mulch]

o_O

[rotund oak]

resonate crystals are srsly hard to farm this early

[normal mist]

damn i guess

[indigo mulch]

how much renown have you grinded? lmao

[normal mist]

You'll finish the season before the poor people can even play

[indigo mulch]

Don't you need rank 8 with all the factions to get the epic?

[rotund oak]

onlyl on the assmbly u get 2

8-9

then 7 on hallowfall

3 epics

567 equipped ilvl with 2 DF daggers

[indigo mulch]

I value my sanity to much to grind like that 😦

[rotund oak]

its more like

ive played so much on beta i know exactly what im doing

step by step

to minmax this

there is a mage in our guild has already 571

man no lifed it and was lucky with boss drops

[royal lantern]

omg

he is gonna slam those heroic dungeons SO HARD

[indigo mulch]

[dense cove]

just fyi in case y'all didn't know. comp stomp awards 35 valorstone per win

[normal mist]

^ cant be done at lvl 70

thanks early access

really helpful

[royal lantern]

nice try blizzard

trying to make us touch PvP

[dense cove]

HAHA

[normal mist]

the fact i CANT do it

its astonishing.

fuck early access

[rotund oak]

btw ive sold about 2.8k ores

[analog summit]

im a new assa player, do you always use instant + amplifying poison or rather deadly?

[normal mist]

never instant

always deadly

[analog summit]

ah so deadly+amplifying

thx

[dark token]

i mean its pretty predatory

but also

unless ur a crazy gold goblin who turbo maxes professions

there is actually no advantage

[normal mist]

nono you dont understand

[dark token]

and if you were a crazy gold goblin you would just buy it with wow tokens

[normal mist]

i was talking about comp stomp

i CANT queu compstomp

[dark token]

oh

[rotund oak]

thats the main reason u early access,ppl that take 4 days to go through quests are basicly trollong

[dense cove]

it is absolutely miserable to play, but it's fairly efficient for valorstones imo

[rotund oak]

u run down the campaign and farm

thats all

[dark token]

im already not playing wow rn

[normal mist]

paying double the price to play 3 days earlier?

LOL

[dark token]

early access wasnt worth

i went back to rs

cause im bored of wow rn

[rotund oak]

these 3 days u make 5 months gametime

just by farming alone

[dark token]

cba

[normal mist]

fucking predatory

[analog summit]

another noob question sorry. when i have 6/7 cp up do i aleady finish or add another cp even though excess cp get lost?

[dark token]

finish unless you have DN

[normal mist]

you always finish 5+

[analog summit]

thx

[reef axle]

Early access should not have been available, it’s just worthless

[analog summit]

dn?

[normal mist]

there are rules, but TLDR 5+ is more than enough

darkest night

[rotund oak]

💀

[dark token]

deez nuts

[indigo mulch]

I think what EA did was killing the hype for the game.

[dark token]

gottem

[analog summit]

xd

[graceful rampart]

are there any darkmoon cards to take for ilvl or even dps quality?

[normal mist]

any one of them is good enough

for ilevel

[dark token]

i just got ascension

[normal mist]

me too

[dark token]

only 5k gold and 577

[indigo mulch]

Just looking at twitch numbers, DF was like 500-800k viewers at peak. TWW was at like 200k ;X

[normal mist]

for like 4.5k

[rotund oak]

i got 2 577 trinkets so i didnt even bother

[dark token]

i love afking in valdrakkan at lvl 80 and looking at the poors

[normal mist]

xD you might find me

[analog summit]

damn my dps went up 20% without capping the cps thanks 😄

[normal mist]

I'll say it again, i have nothing against who has early access. My opinion is that the fact it exists is predatory, bad practise that shouldn't be a thing.

[indigo mulch]

Agree 100%.

[normal mist]

Any goldmaker will be able to control the markets way more easily;
Activities locked because Early access is on;
Spoilers;

[waxen oyster]

im surprised people are buying random greens

sold like 3

[indigo mulch]

but on the brightside, we can use pickpocket to gain these!

[hoary scroll]

on long (3-6min) st fights, should i use my vanish into improved garrote before sending kingsbane or after sending kingsbane?

[normal mist]

ALWAYS for garrote

[hoary scroll]

yeah ofc but before kingsbane or after?

[normal mist]

?

[hoary scroll]

or in between

the improved garrote

[normal mist]

have you seen the new openers and stuff or your trying stuff for yourself?

[hoary scroll]

i have seen the opener but in opener i have different situation...

[normal mist]

?

We stopped vanishing for KB a long time ago

(okay it wasnt that long)

[hoary scroll]

vanish for improved garrote on cd?

[normal mist]

sec

deathstalker?

[waxen oyster]

How is that a different situation

[hoary scroll]

yes

[normal mist]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

After the opener, delay DM for vanish CD, then vanish - garrote - dm -shiv - KB and normal burst

[hoary scroll]

ah thats the answer i am looking for

[sullen garden]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[waxen oyster]

plays same as prepatch

[hoary scroll]

so after opener its always vanish -> improved garrote -> deathmark -> and so on

[waxen oyster]

although shouldnt you vanish amb garrote

[languid gate]

Should we use that mutilate / envenom before the deathmark or should we straight go into the deathmark after echoing reprimand? 😄

[normal mist]

Imma be honest

you asked a question that is explained in the image

[indigo mulch]

[languid gate]

It says "in theory"

[normal mist]

in THEORY its better, in practise not so much

[languid gate]

I mean, in theory means basically, when everything you do is 100% perfect. At least that's what I'm understanding from it

[normal mist]

its ideal to get that envenom buff rolling before KB

BUT you are delaying a bunch of your CDs' that way

[indigo mulch]

Either way, that change is most likley none-existant on your dps anyway. Or extremly minimal gain/loss.

[strange python]

that echoing reprimand bug wit shadowstalker is so boring

🥲

[waxen oyster]

im surprised it wants you to shiv early

since the aoe builds only take 1 shiv

[normal mist]

bleed takes 2

[indigo mulch]

I honestly been loving leveling with bleed build D;

[normal mist]

So in the case of builds with only 1 shiv you still want to use it on the last 7 seconds

[royal lantern]

dawnbreaker with randoms

is so bad

like

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad

[normal mist]

teach them

[royal lantern]

the game tells you 200x what to do, voicelinces + text messages + log updates

[normal mist]

silly you

[royal lantern]

and they start running around fighting random enemys

[normal mist]

thinking people have sound on

[royal lantern]

i tell them to fly back

they dont do it

lol

[normal mist]

... or their monitor

I'm actually pretty tired today, imma go to bed. Night everyone take care

[waxen oyster]

Its likely better

since nothing lives a kb while leveling

[languid gate]

Delve and M+ are the same Builds, is that correct?

[onyx mesa]

How many players do you think got EA? 50% of the player base? 30%? I am genuinely interested

[waxen oyster]

Delve is just hybrid

realistically its piss easy content and can play whatever

[royal lantern]

seems to be a good bunch

[fervent sentinel]

is it worth buying the 564 greens on the auction house?

[waxen oyster]

Considering no relevant content is out

no

[royal lantern]

considering the fact that frking world quest gear is 567

lol

[languid gate]

Bleed better than hybrid for m+ pugs?🤔

[royal lantern]

and, you know, that you would throw gold out of the window for gear that is replaced 3minutes into the actual season launch

[waxen oyster]

no idea

dont pug

[fervent sentinel]

sheet I guess I should start questin

[candid token]

Is the WoWhead guide up to date? Or should I go by the pins info

[normal mist]

Yes it is

[candid token]

Sweet, thankyuu

[waxen oyster]

would be nice if they fixed poopstalker bugs

Although fatebound being largely passive is nice too.

[royal lantern]

its not largely passive, its fully passive lmao

[waxen oyster]

Although what happens if you activate cold blood

and your first finisher is env

does it pick a random buff to flip

[cold parcel]

Is echoing reprimand worth using now or is it still bugged?

[uneven plume]

!tiernreak

!tierbreak

[prisma monolith]

You will not want to break your tier until roughly 40 or 50 item levels above your tier set, at which point you should simulate yourself through top gear to get direct, accurate answers. This is highly dependant on your gear as a character so make sure you check with a sim first before swapping/deleting gear

[waxen oyster]

You play it as deathstalker regardless

Fatebound already didnt run it

[remote grail]

Is assa like, good for world farming, like 2x4 with crimson and sudden demise or do we have another spec option? P_P

like black powder spam sub

[harsh harbor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's 11.0 Group
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LE's Rogue Collection
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Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[dark crag]

My worldquest gear is 571

[hidden herald]

Trying to combin element of Quazi's Plater profile and some of the ones from here. Does anyone know how to make the caustic spatter target turn green and how to highlight debuffs on the pandemic window

[balmy condor]

Those are scripts

I have them in mine, you can yoink it from there

I’m gonna copy quazi’s though, could also just edit that to your liking instead

[cold parcel]

@balmy condor are you using echoing reprimand or avoiding it until its fixed?

[hidden herald]

I have found pandemic scripts, although they don't seem to adjust properly

Can't find a posted caustic spatter green plater script that looks up to date and non-buggy

[nocturne quail]

If you find any script that changes color for a debuff you can figure out how to change it to caustic

[balmy condor]

Yep, bis setup technically is 2/2 Leth and 1 er

But that feels jank to me so I just run the raw ER

[balmy condor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[balmy condor]

The bottom link

[waxen oyster]

so ER and hope your blue pt is 3

[balmy condor]

sure

[waxen oyster]

allegedly someone said it works on 3

but not the other ones

[balmy condor]

that's the setup even without the weird 3cp

but yeh

correct

[waxen oyster]

I guess its just considered the best way to spend that last point.

[balmy condor]

it has to be a mark applied from the capstone, the 3rd cp has to be empowered, and you have to use an envenom

and then it'll work

[waxen oyster]

Does it not bug out the mark applied from ambush from stealth?

[hidden herald]

Thanks I downloaded it, but couldn't work out what the title of exact script/mod was. I am wanting to just import that Mod into Quazi's profile - do you have any idea what it's called, don't worry if not I can live without

[frosty shard]

do we have a build that does not involve ER that's not a big loss, always hated how that spell worked

[balmy condor]

its under this

[balmy condor]

what is a "big loss"

[frosty shard]

around or under 5% I'm ok over than that meh

[waxen oyster]

play fatebound

[obtuse robin]

what can i macro cb to

[balmy condor]

envenom

[obtuse robin]

ty

[balmy condor]

you could play cold blood on either tree then

[waxen oyster]

ER is kind of nice honestly

cheap 7 pt finishers

[hidden herald]

Thanks that's worked perfectly

[frosty shard]

no build with the extra vanish if I consider doing only M+

[waxen oyster]

💀

not the extra vanish convo

[balmy condor]

extra vanish is teetering on your line of "within 5%"

[waxen oyster]

how to waste 4 talent points

[balmy condor]

it's one of the numerically worst talents assa rogue has ever seen

[frosty shard]

arh :/

[balmy condor]

5% is a pretty broad range though so like if you're super duper hell bent on it

then go for it I guess

[frosty shard]

it's mostly for comfort in pug when tank keeps chain pulling

[balmy condor]

there's some high end m+ players running it, as misguided and impossible to recommend as it may be

[frosty shard]

just the extra restealth to silence mobs

[waxen oyster]

I mean

if tank wants to get blasted by more casts

thats his fault for chaining

Assert dominance tell tank you’re going afk

if he chain pulls

[royal lantern]

(and, you know, its literally 1-2 more casts of vanish trought out an entire dungeon, not double, you dont suddenly get GIGA SILENCE VALUE out of it lol)

[waxen oyster]

cop a nelf race change

[royal lantern]

you mean the thing that barely works

and even if it works is not a gain

stealth just breaks peoples brains for some reason, idk

[waxen oyster]

Doesnt meld work like classic stealth

where if a stiff breeze goes your way you will lose it

[runic hinge]

I’m cute and do flips tho

[royal lantern]

you mean in IRL right

[runic hinge]

Anything with true sight or anything casting a group wide spell will fizzle your ass

[waxen oyster]

female nelf is best looking race though

[royal lantern]

its a elf

that makes it 1 of the worst

[reef axle]

not sure if just me but sin seems to be much smoother to play than it has in a long time

[royal lantern]

by default

[royal lantern]

its literally the same gameplay it had in 10.2 lol

argurably worse imo

[waxen oyster]

Expansion launch and forums reminded me.

There are still people who play mud hut faction

though

[keen flume]

when do you think we replace our old 4 pc? Even with the ilvl increase sims are saying to keep old 4pc

[royal lantern]

stop with your faction cringe shit, jesus christ

touch grass

[balmy condor]

then you keep

[keen flume]

....

lol

[balmy condor]

you keep until sims say you don't

that easy

[waxen oyster]

You paid money to beta test

[royal lantern]

not me throwing them away after 20 ilvl cus i thought "eh, should be enough"

[hot linden]

In mplus if I know the pack is going to last longer than my dots, should I hold vanish for reapply or just send?

[royal lantern]

[balmy condor]

entirely situational on what's coming up and what you could need vanish for

the standard response is casting on cooldown is better than holding and losing a cast

[remote turtle]

hi guys quick question

[hot linden]

Thanks, I don’t see myself really needing to hold until like very high keys anyways

[balmy condor]

probably reasonable yeah

[remote turtle]

did u need to be in stealth if u want to apply the deathstalker mark ?

every single time right ?

[balmy condor]

the capstone

[waxen oyster]

read your last capstone

[vale lantern]

anyone else just constantly get charged outta stealth when the tank is grouping mobs in these new dungeons?

[balmy condor]

yeh that's normal

[reef axle]

hasnt that been around since like forever?

[vale lantern]

iv just never noticed it nearly this bad

[waxen oyster]

stand away from the ranged

[balmy condor]

dungeons also are going record speeds tbh

when you're doing full dungeons in 3 minutes

[waxen oyster]

hard content

[balmy condor]

not gonna be a lot of time out of combat

[waxen oyster]

[royal lantern]

had a dungeon with a lvl71 locked DH in the group that bought a full set of greens from the AH

just 1hit killing everything

[waxen oyster]

maybe hes selling dungeon leveling

[vale shore]

when do we ditch our set bonuses? just any ilvl upgrade?

[royal lantern]

just sims

when it sims lower, you replace

or when blizz decides to turn set bonuses off

[waxen oyster]

replace pants i guess if you had 5pc

a bit earlier

[balmy condor]

!tierbreak

[prisma monolith]

You will not want to break your tier until roughly 40 or 50 item levels above your tier set, at which point you should simulate yourself through top gear to get direct, accurate answers. This is highly dependant on your gear as a character so make sure you check with a sim first before swapping/deleting gear

[balmy condor]

[waxen oyster]

or if blizz disables tier on tuesday

[royal lantern]

will probably be like

3 days of season out

people use lvl 70 tier items over new things

->they hotfix turn them off

[remote turtle]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[grand trail]

Fuck tier set

Already 570

[cerulean nest]

yo whisp is that top gear from your video at the end available somewhere?

[royal lantern]

ill take a hard gues and say wowhead

[cerulean nest]

i’ll check

[balmy condor]

idk what "that top gear" is

I just simmed some talents

and then some trinkets

[cerulean nest]

for sure

[charred crest]

Im trying to do my first profession in wow. I saw people that said to level engineering and mining, is that good or have better ones?
idk nothing about profession

[waxen oyster]

Gotta minmax EA or its joever

Depends what you want out of professions

[somber hill]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[slate crown]

There is no reason to worry about professions from a power perspective. If you want to just craft stuff for yourself and you like using engineering devices, mining and engineering are great

But you aren't locking yourself out of items regardless, you can always get access to anything from any profession now, though crafting it yourself makes it easier to get them

[cold parcel]

ok I guess I will change my setup tomorrow. I ended up following casuals after you mentioned that it was bugged... Can you explain exactly what "ecoing reprimand" does? the breakdown in the skill is confusing as hell

[balmy condor]

idk what casual is running

[strange python]

You don’t wanna go there I think

[balmy condor]

but echoing reprimand isn't that confusing

[slate crown]

I wouldn't worry about what people say to level profession wise, if you're in a plce where you're not sure and know nothing about them, just pick ones that you like the sound of more, if you conceptually like engineering, go for it. If not, take a look at the other options. I always go JC personally. Gold making opportunities aside, I like shiny things so that's enough for me.

[balmy condor]

when you use it, you get a blue slot like that

when you get exactly that amount, like this

you use a finisher

and it counts as if the finisher was 7cp

and that's literally it

[somber hill]

does sin finish on 7 or 6 cps or always for 7 (assuming no deathmark buff)

[balmy condor]

we talked like a week and a half ago and agreed without a trace sucked

[balmy condor]

5 or more

[strange python]

Ayo lesssgooo

[cold parcel]

alright I will try it out tomorrow ... thank you!

[balmy condor]

np

[somber hill]

and i assume its a bug that the deathmark buff isnt being reapplied when u have Darkest Night and finish using a echoing reprimand finisher

[balmy condor]

yes

the biggest bug

we've been screaming about it for months

[somber hill]

just returning now - ya seems like a rlly annoying one considering the core gameplay loop

[strange python]

They are trying to fix it I heard? Eleem mentioned something in sub channel earlier that it does work if it’s exactly on the third combo point or something

Or am I tripping

[balmy condor]

yes

[strange python]

God that’s so spaghetti

[balmy condor]

there's a "fix" which is just a new bug that's hyper niche

[balmy condor]

^

[slate crown]

Was that something that actualyl changed or was it just hyper niche and not found until recently?

[balmy condor]

changed

[strange python]

Holyyy that’s fucked

[slate crown]

That's almost worse, that means either they tried to fix it and failed

[strange python]

Imagine they leave it like that

Good luck playing around it

[slate crown]

Or they didn't even mean to fix it, and just accidentally caused it

[balmy condor]

progress at least

[strange python]

Deathstalker doesn’t even sound bad to play anymore if they fix bugs, would be sad if they don’t

[balmy condor]

we're 1/3 combo points and 1/3 finishers

1/9th of the way there

that's more than 10%

[slate crown]

While leveling deathstalker was great

bugs aside

just constant darkest night

[balmy condor]

yeah if only leveling actually required anything

[strange python]

I played sub for leveling because restealthing and teleporting to mobs is great

[balmy condor]

I feel like an actual clown for spending time on a leveling guide

its so pointless

[open canyon]

Hello Guys, im just wondering if itll be a cheat sheet for TWW like this one https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16OHsHq0RG4cMfiTkGHn4qyMfRZjp2uZN_9_w29bH168/edit?gid=0#gid=0 from DF?

[strange python]

Bruv leveling is insanely „undertuned“

It’s 100% tuned for s3 gear

[balmy condor]

no

infexious quit

all that info is just wowhead/icyveins

[simple rivet]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1-P988ibclxaKCGrAcrx_v1X-hLdkCVUgy_ZFPzLNn_s/mobilebasic

[balmy condor]

I had s3 gear and was full on one-shotting things

[strange python]

Goddamn

[slate crown]

Yeah

[strange python]

I mean I can’t lie I’m glad it’s the way it is

[balmy condor]

honestly feels like it was tuned for mop characters before they buffed the transfer rewards

[strange python]

But for the people that enjoy leveling

[balmy condor]

like 410/420 gear

[strange python]

It must feel bad

[muted tide]

do echoing combo points count for darkest night and reapply deathstalkers mark?

[simple rivet]

check my link

[balmy condor]

ay ay ay

I guess I make a bot command

I can't keep doing this

[strange python]

Ye sounds like a good idea

[bold lodge]

Sin seems bugged to the point itd be a problem in raid, hopefully they fix it soon

[strange python]

ER question gonna pop up a lot

[muted tide]

oh is that something a lot of people are asking lol

sorry

[balmy condor]

third time in about 10-15 minutes

[strange python]

Especially because it looks good in keys you’ll have a lot of people new to the discord at some point

[muted tide]

hahaha

[balmy condor]

it's driving me mad

but yes

it's bugged

everyone knows its bugged

there's some weird interaction with 3rd cp

no one knows why

[muted tide]

okay sweet sorry again lmao

[balmy condor]

we pray for fix

you're good

not your fault specifically

you are just one in a long chain

[muted tide]

[strange python]

It’s fine man that’s the nature of discord, people that answer these questions get them a lot and for you it’s the first time asking so I doubt you had the intention to drive whispyr mad

Me on the other hand I’ll just ask him tomorrow to make him mad

Also whispyr idk if mentioning the 3cp thing in the bot command would be helpful for you

It’s super nieche and people are gonna ask for it even more

Because it’s a „gain“

[royal lantern]

not a lvling enjoyer (but still did EVERY SINGLE SIDEQUEST during it )

but it just feels so shit rn lol

the ussual "you get weaker with higher levels" is amped up to 11, the first 8levels you legit 2hit kill everything no matter your gear or Class/spec, and then it has a BIG drop at 80 and you need ages for some random enemys again

[strange python]

Sounds like mop remix I remember hitting max level for the first time and you can’t do shit anymore because you get banged by everything

[royal lantern]

it literally is

lvl 70-71 characters 2hit kill dungeon mobs

like, not even exegarating

people allready level lock lvl71 characters for dungeon Spam

[strange python]

Guildie mentioned warmode is fun at level 71

Said he’s oneshotting 80s

Might be weird scaling too for some reason

Idk haven’t tried it tho

[balmy condor]

!dn

oo

wtf

lets try that again

!dn

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark :deathstalkermark:?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night :darkestnight: reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
  Echoing Reprimand :echoing:....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand :echoing: doesn't interact with the Mark :deathstalkermark: / Darkest Night :darkestnight: , this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality :masterassassin: and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand :echoing:
  But the 3rd cp or something?
• Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark :deathstalkermark: and Echoing Reprimand :echoing:. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark :deathstalkermark: be applied from Darkest Night :darkestnight:, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom :envenom:. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark :deathstalkermark: as intended.
  Does Blizzard know?
• There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.

[balmy condor]

aight

it doesn't know the emotes

unlucky

[strange python]

dn is also a great choice

[restive falcon]

whispyr r we running the Nerubian Phermone Secreter? i bought one and put 500mast/crit on it but the tip says proc 0 pheromones gives 2k mainstat

[strange python]

I respect it

[balmy condor]

it also works with darkest, capstone, and mark

!mark

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
  Echoing Reprimand....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
  But the 3rd cp or something?
• Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
  Does Blizzard know?
• There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.

[balmy condor]

go for it

[restive falcon]

wait that trinket broke sims

[balmy condor]

does it sim good

[restive falcon]

[balmy condor]

oh

[strange python]

That’s nice, dn is the way to go tho

[restive falcon]

it says failed

[balmy condor]

spell data probably broke

idk

use it who cares

it'll get replaced in a week

[restive falcon]

unlucky

[balmy condor]

who gives a shit lmao

[restive falcon]

imma use it i just curious about it

[balmy condor]

yeh, perfectly reasonabl

[restive falcon]

im so tired

5 toons 80 all sidequests done, just delves and profs now

[balmy condor]

I'm 50 knowledge jewelcrafting

with no more first crafts to get

just waiting at this point tbh

[restive falcon]

im at like 55herb knowledge and 38 mining on rogue but my mage is doing enchanting/alch so ig i gotta start doing enchanting/alch but

i have 0 understanidng of the skill trees/what route to go so thats why i did herb/mining last xpac too

[balmy condor]

[strange python]

Tailoring is crazy

Guildies making BANK atm

Around the 600k mark per person is what they got today

From like 5ish hours

[spice surge]

Just like farming cloth or what

[crimson ocean]

which hero talent is bis for m+ for assa?

[waxen oyster]

Why does it keep saying I must spend all talent points to swap talents

when its all done

[balmy condor]

high end will probably prefer deathstalker purely for prio dam

[balmy condor]

cause blizzards talent UI is spaghetti

delete the loadout and go again

[waxen oyster]

Yeah silly me

[runic saddle]

is assa's single target weak af? i saw in maxroll i think it only has like 3.5 stars in rating

[chilly nimbus]

hi guys, question. Why sin rogue now stack so many crit chance? That's work same for m+?

[limber lion]

It does not matter

You just pick the highest ilvl

[shy crow]

assa good

[limber lion]

It's good

[shy crow]

dont look at tier lists bro

[floral vale]

Which darkmoon deck is the best for us?

[cunning basin]

what word from the front, comrades?

[bleak ledge]

3.5 stars pack it up

[cunning basin]

hell yeah thats what i like to hear

[arctic crown]

Is anyone getting of stealth all of the sudden?, without doing anything

[limber lion]

!stealthbug

hmm

[past forum]

i think its break

[limber lion]

!stealthbreak

[prisma monolith]

Stealth can break from:

• Evoker legendary buff expiring and bouncing back to the Evoker.
• Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
• Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
• Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
• Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
• Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)

[limber lion]

Oh

[arctic crown]

I dont have any of those

[raven egret]

Pick pocketing stonks

[uneven plume]

idk if this matters