assassination

[jolly crater]

idk if wowhead calculatets the steps itself or its a if/else type of thing u can correct by your own

[dark current]

i think i am going to level to 80 as many as possible rn so i dont have to deal with levelign zone lags when it goes live lol

[balmy condor]

yeh I fixed that earlier today but it hasn't parsed through for some reason

the togglers are even worse than if/else

it's binary on/off for each line item

VERY cool

[jolly crater]

bra

[balmy condor]

it actually makes me want to die those fucking togglers are the worst things ever invented

for what exactly

[jolly crater]

haha alright everything cool then

gn8 guys

[balmy condor]

have a good one

[runic hinge]

I make tool

[balmy condor]

🔨

[onyx mesa]

😮

[runic hinge]

went hard on engi today

[onyx mesa]

how much gold you end up spending lol

[runic hinge]

almost none

I made some tools to sell i spent probably 9k theyre all listed for 35k each

[onyx mesa]

Oh dang noice

[runic hinge]

That's just getting profession treasures, the one book for 10 points, and some first crafts

[past forum]

i know the pieces fit

[slate crown]

prospecting

[balmy condor]

I don't understand

[dark current]

is it true that your alts get 5% exp bonus every time you finish the whole campaign?

[runic hinge]

everytime you hit 80 with another character its 5%

[dark current]

ah sweet

[past forum]

up to 15% tho right?

[runic hinge]

25%

5 characters is max xp

[past forum]

[slate crown]

I didn't know that was a thing

[indigo mulch]

Are there no WQ's in Azj-kahet? 😮

[balmy condor]

nop

[indigo mulch]

[runic hinge]

AK too spooky to world quest in

[rotund oak]

im almost done with engineer

[indigo mulch]

Why spooky 😦 I love spiders

[rotund oak]

also rng'd the new mount

[runic hinge]

dark

[rotund oak]

anyone that has 1mil+ gold and wants a mount..

[runic hinge]

just the card is like 1.5 mill on ah rn

[indigo mulch]

If i could own a tarantula i would but my wife would most likley leave me if i brought one home.

[tropic tundra]

[rotund oak]

its 850k

kekw

[waxen oyster]

are any of the side quests in first zone worth doing

Or is it a gas pedal main story angle

[rotund oak]

that tbh is even better more money to ask for

[runic hinge]

jk it's 300k off now cause card is down to 950k

[rotund oak]

bruh,ik my sht trust 😉

thing is its expensive coz its gated

[runic hinge]

I didn't go that route cause i figure proff tools will be better for now

[waxen oyster]

Starting this expac with 2.6m gold feels funny

[rotund oak]

ive started with 7

[past forum]

you wont hit 70 if u just gun it down campaign but u get pretty close. maybe delve side quests would be enough idk

[rotund oak]

but if u wanna lvlup profs now u are going into welfare for sure

[gilded knoll]

only 1 mil. me poor

[waxen oyster]

months of boosting?

[rotund oak]

years of not spending tbh and ye

been doing duelist boosts

[waxen oyster]

I remember when there was a huge market for that

in bfa s4/sl s1

mostly mages

[rotund oak]

yeah depends the xpansion

some classes carry easier than other

[waxen oyster]

badge

[rotund oak]

there was a time healers did that

[waxen oyster]

[rotund oak]

a priest could literally carry u

[waxen oyster]

bfa disc?

[rotund oak]

ye and much older

hpallies,Rshammies could as well

no way to die

[waxen oyster]

playing with a disc that had the crucible spear trinket

and schism buffing it

[rotund oak]

u know the ways

[waxen oyster]

lmao

play with a good disc

vs bad

basically different game

[rotund oak]

bad ones have no dispell in their bars

huge diff

and chast into mc is taboo

[waxen oyster]

chast requires hpriest though

[rotund oak]

now ye

[waxen oyster]

no fear off saps

[rotund oak]

still doesnt make any diff

ye depends the comp u que into

[waxen oyster]

Oh trust me those games

there was nothing their team could have done to stop it

if priest was awake

[rotund oak]

healers awake..

the only healers ive noticed being awake were droods

[waxen oyster]

rdruids usually were the worst from my experience

boosting mages was fucking painful in sl s1

[tropic tundra]

they don't even have time to get stressed

every single gcd

[waxen oyster]

when you didnt do damage as sub

[rotund oak]

most rdrood dont rly know how to heal tbh

coz too much stuff pressing and hots and no tracking but they wanna clone

coz drood

[waxen oyster]

well until the MA venthyr cheese came in with 1 dance

[timid sonnet]

what ilvl gear is worth breaking a mythic tier set :p

[runic hinge]

i just did it cause fuck that old stinky gear

[waxen oyster]

40-50? so like 568 gear?

[runic hinge]

anyways its like 40 ilvls above or so

[balmy condor]

!tierbreak

[prisma monolith]

You will not want to break your tier until roughly 40 or 50 item levels above your tier set, at which point you should simulate yourself through top gear to get direct, accurate answers. This is highly dependant on your gear as a character so make sure you check with a sim first before swapping/deleting gear

[timid sonnet]

ofc there is an automated answer already

thanks

[balmy condor]

np

we stay efficient around here

[waxen oyster]

the new tier bonus looks boring

[balmy condor]

I have a secret bot command that I added earlier that I haven't gotten to use yet

that's gonna be exciting

[rotund oak]

should sim but 578(the blue ones from world bosses n stuff)

[balmy condor]

waiting for someone to step on the proverbial landmine

[rotund oak]

also warband equippable

[rotund oak]

i wont do it coz ur guides are spot on

strong kungfu

[balmy condor]

you don't even know what question it answers!

[waxen oyster]

How do you even change the 4 characters on your warband screen.

[rotund oak]

i dont wanna engage with enlightment,just woke up no coffee

[rotund oak]

drag and drop

like dropbox

[waxen oyster]

good storage for my inky black pots

[tropic tundra]

dropbox

man

heard that the first time since 2012

[rotund oak]

its a thing still

[timid sonnet]

Yeah Windows insists saving my private documents to it if I am not careful

[waxen oyster]

the new skyriding glyphs dont give anything right

[balmy condor]

not if you did the dragonflight glyphs

[timid sonnet]

a mount for gathering all of them I think?

[balmy condor]

oh yeh

[timid sonnet]

at least thats what a guildie said

[balmy condor]

true the achieve gives something

[waxen oyster]

But it doesnt give talent points for the tree

[timid sonnet]

there might not be a tree anymore

or at least I cant find it

:p

[waxen oyster]

i think its gone in the new zones?

[keen spruce]

hi assas yall lookin cute today

[rotund oak]

hi bb

[runic hinge]

no u

[waxen oyster]

I find it funny how much stronger clear the witnesses/hunt them down are compared to the third option

On that row

[upper meteor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[balmy condor]

yeh until you get to high m+ and then singular focus is like the entire reason you'd play deathstalker

[upper meteor]

Whispyr what did you decide on the coin flip. You tracking?

Not on the PC to check the wa

[balmy condor]

I added a tracker reluctantly yes

it's very basic though

heads/tails/capstone

[upper meteor]

Yeah fair enough

[waxen oyster]

True

[runic hinge]

can i get a big one that does a slot machine show when i hit capstone

3 pedros come falling in a line or something

[reef axle]

are they gonna nerf us :(?

[timid sonnet]

I dont think I will play Fatebound tbh, I dislike playing Outlaw because of RtB and now more RNG :p

[waxen oyster]

Probably?

[runic hinge]

never we r too cute

[waxen oyster]

If you’re choosing what class you play on prerelease tuning I have bad news

[rotund oak]

i dont think sin or generally rogue is getting nerfed

well not outside pvp

[waxen oyster]

Am I weird that I sometimes dont enjoy being overtuned on farm?

Because that means I never get to sit

[tropic tundra]

can relate to that

[rotund oak]

yeah u are

[reef axle]

sitting can be nice.....

[waxen oyster]

Im taking bets they nerf the spec

before they fix poopstalker’s bugs

[timid sonnet]

when was the last time sin was overtuned anyway

its our time! :p

[waxen oyster]

start of s3 amirdrassil

[rotund oak]

sin isnt overtuned btw

[timid sonnet]

yes exactly, I am saying we should be, so buff sin

[rotund oak]

[waxen oyster]

ill take delete aug

[indigo mulch]

I'd rather not have a repeat of s3

;X

[waxen oyster]

before anything

[rotund oak]

bro with the reverse psychology

[indigo mulch]

I'm just happy we arent reliant on pi anymore

That was horrible.

[waxen oyster]

Would have been worse if hpriest wasnt good enough to run 2 on ever boss.

[viscid chasm]

Can I confirm that I engaged with the hero tree correctly for my talents?

[silk bane]

well, it also has probably one of the strongest defensive nodes out of any hero tree

but yea

[balmy condor]

yeh

[silk bane]

kinda blows my mind that they put defensives on these trees at such vastly different power levels

[indigo mulch]

bait and switch is actually kind of broken to be fair

[silk bane]

yeah

compare that to fatebounds defensive

[waxen oyster]

makes evasion a real defensive

for magic

kinda

[jagged yoke]

whats the strong defensive?

[waxen oyster]

20% is ok

[silk bane]

its a lot more impactful than that

for example. 20% wasnt enough to live gale arrow on a high enough key

20% being from elusiveness

but this just entirely covers it

and then in other cases where u just want a 20% dr and thats enough, u can still run cheat

so u kinda get both cheat and elusiveness

its reallly really good

[jagged yoke]

is assassination decent aoe atm?

[balmy condor]

Assassination is kinda known for its aoe currently

The single target is the thing that’s meh

[waxen oyster]

[jagged yoke]

because caustic spatter?

[silk bane]

they uno reversed the spec LMFAO. used to be known only for its single target

now its aoe

[balmy condor]

Not specifically cause of anything

It’s just good aoe

[waxen oyster]

i’d rather be an st spec

tbh

[jagged yoke]

is it really tied to kingsbane like before?

[balmy condor]

No

[waxen oyster]

deathstalker kinda pushes for a similar idea no?

[balmy condor]

I mean deathstalker pushes for prio but it’s not doing that because of kingsbane

A lot of singular focus ends up being bleeds

[silk bane]

it doesnt work with trinkets does it?

[timid sonnet]

is momentum of despair crit damage of FoK & CT or all

[silk bane]

just fok/ ct

[blazing plaza]

is the 554 gear u get from normal dungeons better then the tier set from df. ?

[timid sonnet]

!tierbreak

[prisma monolith]

You will not want to break your tier until roughly 40 or 50 item levels above your tier set, at which point you should simulate yourself through top gear to get direct, accurate answers. This is highly dependant on your gear as a character so make sure you check with a sim first before swapping/deleting gear

[timid sonnet]

hee hee

always wanted to do this

[blazing plaza]

thx

[wind falcon]

are any of the darkmoon cards worth a damn?

[sharp viper]

so where is the pre launch BIS list?

[hollow moss]

What’s the difference in gameplay between Fatebound and Deathstalker?

[rotund oak]

😂

[rotund oak]

fatebound basicly doesnt acre about anything,u just press stuff,stuff happens alone

in deathstalker u kinda do the same but there is a thing with capstone

and u wanna ambush from stealth

[indigo mulch]

ahh

[rotund oak]

pretty much

[indigo mulch]

first zone completed.

Do we save all the restored coffer keys for s1?

[errant trail]

did any1 break their tier set?

[runic hinge]

!tierbreak

[prisma monolith]

You will not want to break your tier until roughly 40 or 50 item levels above your tier set, at which point you should simulate yourself through top gear to get direct, accurate answers. This is highly dependant on your gear as a character so make sure you check with a sim first before swapping/deleting gear

[granite bluff]

what does breaking tier mean? not having tier?

[runic hinge]

having last seasons 4 set and then breaking the set for no more bonuses

[granite bluff]

i see thx

[balmy condor]

No, it’s on a whitelist

[rotund oak]

yeah i did

its not a big deal,idk,u gain flat agil that covers the tierset loss

and stats

its whatever

u can do it urself if u want,kill some bosses in the map,open couple 578 blue gear and u good

[unreal ermine]

anyone have recommendations on what debuffs to UNtrack?

this feels like a few too many debuffs

[runic hinge]

no poisons

[balmy condor]

I only track gar and rup on my plater

I recolor for caustic/deathstalker

Border for deathmark

All the duplicated shit can go

All the poisons can go, maybe deadly can stay

Fatal intent can go

[unreal ermine]

ty for listing it out like that, very helpful

[balmy condor]

Np

You can steal the scripts and stuff if you want

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[balmy condor]

The one at the bottom

[unreal ermine]

anyway to copy all the scripts(?) but keep my sizing etc?

[onyx mesa]

I do deadly, rup and gar on my plater, works a treat. Can you change the plater colour if it has a certain debuff?? is that a thing?

[balmy condor]

I would import the whole plater and then resize and tweak from there if that’s the goal

Take a screenshot of your settings and then just copy them over

[balmy condor]

Yes

I color caustic in green, deathstalker mark in purple

[onyx mesa]

Well that changes everything, alright time to change things up

[balmy condor]

I used to do kingsbane in blue as well but you’d always kingsbane on caustic

So was like whatever

[young fox]

Just wanted to say that as a brand new wow player I think Assa single handedly kept me from bouncing off this game because every other spec i tried was so boring or awkward to play

[balmy condor]

BASED

assa best spec

[silk bane]

real

and true

and based

[young fox]

I've played ffxiv for years and while this game moves faster this spec is the first one i've found that gets those brain juices flowing and feels satsifying to execute

[errant trail]

wow owns dude

i don’t blame

[runic hinge]

This mf spittin

[hoary remnant]

All 3 rogue specs do that in different ways. Welcome to the game

[young fox]

honestly I've been having a lot of fun with it, except, its nearly impossible to figure out how to navigate any old zones

[runic hinge]

Assa really just is so good

[hot fulcrum]

Does it already support colors on m+ mobs? With important kicks etc as it was in df? Or is it smth that will be done before season start?

[hoary remnant]

Quazi has a good player profile for it

[balmy condor]

will update with quazii's stuff before the season

[silk bane]

you'll figure out eventually. I just googled how to get to places when i first started

[balmy condor]

I took his mob coloring for dragonflight stuff

was good

[hot fulcrum]

this is true. So was wonder if we r going to have the same feature. Good to know that I just need to wait a bit

[slow echo]

Is anyone's shiv debuff not popping up on retail TWW?

[silk bane]

do i have to sub to your OF for this?

im already vip subbed but just double checking

[balmy condor]

yeh gotta sub to my onlyfeet

[balmy condor]

is it getting parried maybe?

[silk bane]

here i go goonin again

[slow echo]

It's happening everytime

[silk bane]

maybe youre blocking it if youre using plater or somethign

[balmy condor]

yeh are you tracking it on like a weakaura or a plater or something

[slow echo]

My WA's aren't tracking it, but on beta it's working

I'm tracking it on both

[balmy condor]

not sure then

[rancid bison]

Is lw/skining good prof for assassination or is there other prof is better for it, i am new to retail so i got no idea and can´t find around which one is good for rogue.

[crisp stream]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[balmy condor]

professions aren't attached to any character power, it's just an economy/fantasy thing

[rancid bison]

Oh okay thanks then i will just go engi/mining just for fun

[balmy condor]

sounds like a plan

[still viper]

Anyone else noticed that reapplying deathstalkers's mark doesn't work when envenom is used with the combat point that echoing reprimand buffed, so it should work like a full combat point envenom and reapply deathstalkers's marks 😄

[balmy condor]

yes

[still viper]

Feuture or bug 😄

[balmy condor]

it's one of the biggest bugs

for the whole class

[still viper]

Ok hope it gets fixed soon then 😄

[balmy condor]

been waiting for a fix since deathstalker was revealed in alpha

[runic hinge]

If you only have. 1 point in er which one is the highlighted one

[balmy condor]

randomly between 3/4/5

[runic hinge]

If it was always 3 I’d go 2/2 lethality and be rocking it with that bug

[still viper]

Cant find much about it anywhere hope they know 😛

[balmy condor]

it's been screamed about for months in every review post about deathstalker

they know lmao

[still viper]

Haha, you ever gotten a respons ?

[balmy condor]

if I did, would it make a difference

it's not fixed

[vestal wren]

you can make a lot of gold with professions
gold allows you to buy boe's from the AH
checkmate - professions add character power

[balmy condor]

yeh, big BoE power

[autumn valve]

Hi there, is night elf the better races to mm+?

[balmy condor]

not necessarily

it's a decent choice but it's nothing crazy

meld is a good defensive to cheese mechanics

like dwarf does with stoneform

[autumn valve]

Okok dwarf and night elf is the better choice, maybe human too?!

[balmy condor]

probably not

human doesn't really do anything

dwarf and nelf are mostly used to cheese mechanics

[unreal ermine]

I Imported ur plater profile and find the caustic splatter indicator particularly useful so ty for that! Just a question, is there any reason in particular why you choose to hide crimson tempest bleed?

[balmy condor]

orc/troll are pretty good for the on-use racial

[balmy condor]

I track it on my target through weakauras, don't need the clutter

not a lot of decision making around crimson tempest

you just maintain it

[autumn valve]

okok i will play night elf i think, ty dude 🙂

[balmy condor]

hits everything around you so there's no desync that you need to tab around for

I think it's important to keep your plater clean so you have information you actually use

[vestal wren]

not to be mistaken with the PoE power, draining you in to spend another 20h+ leveling/equipping a new character

[slow echo]

I hit level 76 and now shiv is applying the debuff

[short fox]

what to do at level 80?

[balmy condor]

content, whatever you wanna do

dungeons, world quersts

professions

delves

renown, reputation

[haughty flicker]

degen professions

only correct answer

so far all its cost is my sanity

[loud gull]

what is the raid easy mode talent build with fatebound ? just mind off and dps ?

[balmy condor]

I just finished prospecting 5500 ironclaw

[balmy condor]

it's just easy

fatebound requires no brain

cold blood can be macro'd

[haughty flicker]

undercutters are ruining my life

[loud gull]

ah sick, thanx man !

[onyx mesa]

Is dirt digging back again? what is it for this time? can you grind it like you could in DF?

[haughty flicker]

uh

technically there is dirt to dig but its not like dragonflight op dirt

it just gives some mats and some wax for stupid rat people

[onyx mesa]

Ahhh rat people, the best kind of people

[spring socket]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[jagged yoke]

is there like a delay on ambush now for anyone else?

[worldly nebula]

Do you think non EA players will get the missing delve keys aswell? Since they did give compensation for that enchanter weekly thing?

Having said that EA players wont have any reasonable advantage and all that

[icy osprey]

isn't that how it should be though

[worldly nebula]

They were pretty clear that EA players wont have any reasonable advantage in playerpower

And 2 more (or even more idk) of those delve keys is exactly that

[grim jay]

it should be like that EA people dont have any real advantage, yes

[worldly nebula]

btw is there gonna be a vault this reset?

[onyx mesa]

I thought there wasn't a vault this reset

[hasty viper]

Yeah I think so too

[wanton spear]

any of you guys able to form a pact with severed thread or is it locked until next week?

[hasty viper]

You mean the last quest in campaign? It was bugged to me, had to abandon and get the quest again

[onyx mesa]

I read on the wowhead comments there is a 4 week maximum and you can catch up before reset

[wanton spear]

i mean the thing that lets you choose the weaver the general or the vizier

[worldly nebula]

Could you link that?

[wanton spear]

and unlocks dailies in the last zone

[hasty viper]

Ohhh, I didn't know there was something like that. But it sounds like it'll be available only on reset?

[torn bane]

Hey all :) Whats generally better overall? Amp poison or deadly poison?

[wanton spear]

i just finished the soujernor or w/e finishing every quest is called and still don't have access to it : /

[queen egret]

if we are in a scenario on say, 5 targets, where we have darkest night active, but some of the targets rupture has jsut ran out, do we prioritize finishing with 7 cps first and then proceeding to rupture, or is it better to make sure we reapply rupture regardless of having darkest night active?

[silver otter]

So I know in prepatch not getting restealth in a dungeon wasn't that bad. But with deathstalker that means there's no way to get mark up if no restealth between pulls right ? That seems kinda bad :/

Outside of Vanish ofc

[median root]

you need to max cp envenom to reapply the mark in this instance

[royal lantern]

its shity leveling dungeons

with tanks that just hold W cus everything is a barely tuned joke

you wont do m+ with a group that pulls 6 packs at once, kills 4 enemys and then pulls another pack

espacialy in TWW where they made dungeons mostly single pack pulls

[dark token]

Ye it's pretty bad design especially without subterfuge

I can see it working in m+

But the fact its awkward for open world and stuff like this is a meh design choice for deathstalker

[jagged yoke]

does crimson tempest do way more damage now? feels like it does

[ivory flower]

And when you envenom a target with full CP with darkness night acitve and this target die directly after : darkness night disappear and you need a restealth. Fatebound looks better for normal dungeon

*darkest night

[silver otter]

Oh I had M+ in mind from the start, I don't really care in those normals. But it seems pulling a new pack with one or two almost dead mobs is a pet peeve of the tanks I play with.

[ivory flower]

He should let you restealth

[silver otter]

He should yeah.

[solar lake]

is fatebound much worse for m+? i really dont like deathstalker

[normal mist]

It isn't much worse no

The problem was the buff dropping after 10 seconds out of combat p.e

(which for some reason whispyr noticed was 15 yesterday)

[onyx mesa]

should be 30 seconds... bloody blizzard

[fallow estuary]

idk if its simply me getting old but i feel the specs keep getting more and more complex.. i played a ton of sin during legion and bfa, but right now i feel overwhelmed by it

[normal mist]

It plays almost the same

And the AoE part is pretty much simplified

So in a way I'd say it's even easier

[fallow estuary]

than legion?

[normal mist]

Yes

[solar lake]

think i play fatebound then 😄 ty

[fallow estuary]

for me it feels like i do the same things as in legion, but like 4 extra things i have to look out for

ER cps, death stalker stuff (finish on max instead of 5+ to reapply) , Thistle tea, Shiv into 8sec KB left, FOK after Deathmark apply, keeping caustic splatter uptime..the list goes on

[hexed frost]

Oh God this bug is so annoying with sudden demise and crimson tempest lmao

[solar lake]

the m+ build is the same right? for fatebound and deathstalker?

[hexed frost]

Yeah should be, but cold blood for Fatebound and er for deathstalker

God please have blizzard fix these annoying deathstalker bugs before heroic week

[normal mist]

Isn't that we becoming older?
Legion was almost 10 years ago

[solar lake]

aait ty

[hoary scroll]

is it good to use second rupture with last global from improved garrote to get a improved garrote 23s instead of 18?

[normal mist]

Doesn't really make a difference that big

[fallow estuary]

Yeah, its a good possiblity that i'm just simply getting older

[normal mist]

We are in the same boat my friend, we just gotta keep ourselves updated on what's new and adapt

[fallow estuary]

Good thing is - with family n work i dont have time to raid mythic whatsoever, so who cares if i shiv to early during KB in hc raids

[normal mist]

TRUE AND REAL

I also do not raid mythic but I try to keep myself updated so I can help brothers out here with more specific questions

[grim jay]

no its rather that legion had a pretty easy version of the spec

[weak isle]

WHAT

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[kind walrus]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[normal mist]

Legion "The expansion was released on August 30, 2016."

[rotund oak]

im wondering if i wanna max out engineering or sell the bismuth ores on AH

its 50g each

got 2.5k ores which means

alot of gold

[jagged yoke]

anyone know if ambush is bugged? half the time it doesnt work for me

[dark token]

Maxing profs now is a good move

[rotund oak]

yeah that can happen in a week as well

its ALOT of gold that can be made just by flying around with my druid

3star ores are 300g each

which is wild

yup F everything gonna chill with mining/herbing until launch

no quests no nothing

[dark token]

Eh I rather just do 1 boost early on and pay for 19 hrs of mining

Like 2nd week HC boost can be mills

[rotund oak]

bruh heroics aint evne out yet

u can only normal dungeons and t3 delves

thats all

[dark token]

Ye

So I'm playing RuneScape while cleaning out sidequests so I don't have to see em on my map

Chill Saturday

[rotund oak]

i did t3 delves lvl 78

i aint touching anything else

ill be a millionaire

[fallow estuary]

he is just sayin that he'd rather do boosting later to get same result as for 19h of mining - which is fair

[rotund oak]

full goblinism on that mountain in dorn

[dark token]

I prob also need to spend like 3h fixing all my weakauras for new stuff tbh

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[rotund oak]

im cooking my prof equipments as well

be done early

and gonna sell the mount

goldcap by 3rd week

[fallow estuary]

had to do all of mine again from scratch when this addon started

but i think it turned out perfect

[weak isle]

jezus im getting old

[dark token]

[weak isle]

unless u have custom coding

not really

[weak isle]

[dark token]

I mean I start with afenar

And custom code everything to light up for perfect rotation

[weak isle]

most custom api codes have changed

so that will take some time

[old sequoia]

getting conflicting hero talent advice for m+ in wowhead/icyveins (deathstalker and fatebound respectively) - anyone have a preference already?

[normal mist]

Whats the conflict

[old sequoia]

wowhead seems to say deathstalker and icy says fate?

[normal mist]

Deathstalker will be the go to for hard content, fatebound is just easy mode

[fallow estuary]

Depends - Deathstalker in theory is better, but thats only if blizzard fixes the specc and associated bugs

so right now alot of people play fatebound (also since i believe its better if everything dies instantly)

[old sequoia]

cool thats what it seemed. thanks you two

[normal mist]

🤝

[haughty flicker]

help me

i cant stop pressing garrote isntead of ambushg

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288

[onyx mesa]

just make a macro that casts ambush but has the icon of garrote hahahaha

[haughty flicker]

the flow of aoe opener with sbs is so nice though

i do like this

[normal mist]

thats actually genious

[royal lantern]

im 27

when legion was released, i didnt had a drivers license

🙂

[weak isle]

im 23, when legion got released i just started highschool

wait no

thats alie

i can count

[royal lantern]

passage of time

[weak isle]

i was halfway my highschool journey at that time

[normal mist]

I was 20ish when legion released

I'm 29

Holy moly

[weak isle]

still my fav xpac

[hidden herald]

Right now everything dies too fast for deathstalker

Ambush, garrote, rupture

Okay get my slice up
Now mutilate to get caustic spatter up
Cheeky fan of knifes for crimson tempest
Okay now send…. Wait everything is dead guess I’ll get to send cds on the boss

[junior aurora]

i was playing wow when i was 5 and classic just dropped

do that math

[sand aurora]

is assas the top spec atm?

[runic basin]

do we still play our 4 set or replace it by new items?

[weak isle]

play untill 50ilvls above it

and then you should sim

if its even worth it

[normal mist]

!tierbreak

[prisma monolith]

You will not want to break your tier until roughly 40 or 50 item levels above your tier set, at which point you should simulate yourself through top gear to get direct, accurate answers. This is highly dependant on your gear as a character so make sure you check with a sim first before swapping/deleting gear

[normal mist]

In m+ yes

[peak condor]

can someone tell me pls what is best daggers to buy with bullions?!

[normal mist]

my brother

in christ

the expansion is over hehe

new expansion drops in 2 days

so whatever you buy its fine

[midnight atlas]

buy something for transmog

[peak condor]

lol, so i should play 2 days with something bad when i can pick something that helps me out to see better what sin rogue can do?!

[normal mist]

better daggers wont make you magically be a better player

and as i said "whatever you buy its fine"

[peak condor]

ty for ur answear Royal

[normal mist]

this command might make you understand what i mean:

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[normal mist]

So you'll be prioritizing item level over stats mainly

I was actually giving you a serious answer 😛

In case you have any doubt feel free to ask 🤝

[clever sapphire]

WDYM IT WONT

how else am i supposed to be better

also its god damn hard trying to avoid any spoilers about tww when you are subbed to a lot of wow youtubers

[normal mist]

Yeah....

Im actually pretty spoiler free because i've been watching youtube on my GF acc

So im going in fresh on launch

[clever sapphire]

my solution is watching a lot of phasmo videos, now youtube algorithm just throws me all the 3-4 year old videos of big youtubers

[normal mist]

hehehe

my acc is also filled with Final fantasy stuff

[clever sapphire]

also i havent checked out our guild discord since early access started, lets hope nothing important got said there

[clever sapphire]

that also works

[slate scaffold]

Watch all the tier list videos Rogue S++++ tier baby

[normal mist]

ahahah

they're so dumb

[clever sapphire]

only tierlist i trust is that of fuu

[slate scaffold]

[clever sapphire]

he is just a genious

[unique sentinel]

how much did sin gameplay changed since 10.2? Lot of diff or its pretty much the same?

[clever sapphire]

almost the same

[clever sapphire]

you have bonespike as a passive now so you get a few extra CP on rupture and deathstalker forces you to ambush out of stealth/finish on 7 sometimes

[clever sapphire]

ye this is also pretty accurate, but im not sure if outlaw shouldnt be in warrior tab

[royal lantern]

[unique sentinel]

i see ty

[buoyant pewter]

!ui

[peak condor]

there are energy problems or i do something bad? happens to run out some times

[normal mist]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[normal mist]

read up

[clever sapphire]

running out of energy in ST is normal, in aoe that should never happen

[peak condor]

thanks to envenom?

[clever sapphire]

uh wat

im not really sure what the question is about envenom

[peak condor]

For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime

[clever sapphire]

well for more specific gameplay i would do what whispyr has described in the pins

[limber lion]

In ST you run out of energy because you only have 1 Garrote and 1 Rupture ticking for Venomous Wounds

In AoE you have multiple bleeds so youe energy gain is higher than your energy consumption

Thus energy saturation

[manic coral]

Are there any m+ assa guides already ? Videos or written?

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-rat-ratjam-catjam-ratjammers-gif-21929051

[slate crown]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[clever sapphire]

whispyr has a raid tldr for tww

[indigo mulch]

When are they releasing m0? =0

Or is it in already and I'm just stupid?

[normal mist]

When raid launches

[indigo mulch]

What about hc dun?

Same?

[normal mist]

No

On launch

For the poor

[indigo mulch]

Ah okay atleast something to do while we wait.

I must say it feels pretty good running bleed in normal dungeons. Everything just pops

[wet briar]

I can't get a feel for anything in these dungeons, it's just mdi into every boss and go next

[limber lion]

He literally asked for a mythic+ guide, not a raid guide lol

It's like someone asking for the recipe for a blueberry pie and you go "here's a recipe for a cheesecake imstead"

[terse orchid]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[clever sapphire]

im blind

i didnt see the m+ part

xD

[dapper cradle]

which darkmoon deck trinkets are best for us?

[royal lantern]

i want cake now

[normal mist]

Fuck me too

[slate crown]

[normal mist]

... I forgot the the " , "

[slate crown]

[normal mist]

"fuck, me too"

Come on Lis xD

[peak condor]

Royal, u use weakaura?

[dark token]

ima need a leave party rejoin party macro

[pure moth]

Heroic dungeons also show starting 9/10

[red light]

ayo since when does mounting up channel cancel stealth? just realised

[normal mist]

It seems both me and whispyr read that wrong then

[pure moth]

Oh weird I saw a heroic seasonal dungeon 9/10. Was on another visual floating around

[normal mist]

i mean the wording is right on your part

"heroic seasonal dungeons - 9/10"

[pure moth]

Blizzard for ya lol

[normal mist]

but if thats the case

when is heroic normal dungeons launching

wait

no

wtf

ENGLISH IS HARD

Okay if i understand it correctly TWW HC dungeons will launch on 26/08, and all DF s4 rewards will end on 26/08

[pure moth]

Ok

[jagged yoke]

is darkest night activated with echoing reprimand?

[normal mist]

not yet

we're all hoping for it to be fixed

[jagged yoke]

damn

[normal mist]

@peak condor check here

!wa

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[jagged yoke]

also, is there an issue with ambush? mine seems to really lag

[normal mist]

Atleast on live (non early access) i dont see any lag with it

[jagged yoke]

hmmm wonder why, it sometimes doesnt seem to go off for me

[royal lantern]

u no speak london?

[normal mist]

not really

but i can yell "SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIUUU" really loud

[desert cove]

So I saw that a bug was removed from on use trinkets, blizzard saying they should all be buffed around 50%. Have we looked into sims for those, or are sims not working yet?

[normal mist]

I believe whispyr looked at that already

and he was not happy about it

but i CANT confirm he made the changes on wowhead already

[desert cove]

Oh no

Did a really annoying trinket become good

I’ll check the guide in a minute to see if he changed it

He hasn’t changed it

[prime quail]

do we no longer have Rupture ?

[desert cove]

Yeah only BtE and dispatch

[prime quail]

i started playing my assa again (lvling) and took the low lvl from pin

in stealth i have rupture

but not in normal fight

[desert cove]

Oh I thought you were trolling

No we still have rupture

[prime quail]

i dont :S

[limber lion]

Def do

[prime quail]

[fallow estuary]

i demolished that pack

[desert cove]

Rupture is in the class stuff

[fallow estuary]

holy shit assasin is fun in dungeons

[desert cove]

Jesus how big was the pull

[fallow estuary]

its the pull with all the templars and paladins

[limber lion]

Yeh not for only assa

[prime quail]

not there

or am i blind

[worldly sentinel]

That the general tree

[prime quail]

it appeard

dafuq

[prime quail]

screesnhot 1min ago

[worldly sentinel]

Who needs rupture anyways

[trail tree]

Rupture shmupture

[prime quail]

Crimson tempest is a once apply every 16sek

[normal mist]

yes

[tropic tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blinded-flash-screaming-gif-21505041

[normal mist]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[normal mist]

@peak condor

[hexed frost]

Any good trinkets from WQ or normal dungeons?

[desert cove]

eh

[novel storm]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[desert cove]

not particularly

but unless whispyr learned something our two best trinkets are from s1 dungeons

mastery trinket from grim batol

and dead eye spyglass from siege of boralus

you can buy a darkmoon deck off the AH for pretty cheap

I don't remember which one is our best tho

[hexed frost]

528 ashes is still giga stronks I guess

I have 545 ascension vial but it's cringe

[desert cove]

it probably loses to a darkmoon deck

50 ilvl is no joke

[normal mist]

For the EU people, the token price just tanked 100k over 48h

[desert cove]

damn

sucks to suck ig

[normal mist]

from 400k to 300k

[spice surge]

People buying gold now instead of only people using it for bnet balance

[desert cove]

yeah, mats are gonna be expensive, crafting is gonna be expensive

[normal mist]

I just want it to tank a little more so i can buy some tokens

[desert cove]

it probably won't tank until week 4

[normal mist]

A reminder to update your addons via curseforge if you use it, a lot of updates recently

Also a great time to get rid of WA's that you won't use in TWW

[chilly canopy]

what are we macroing CB with

[normal mist]

Envenom

[novel storm]

Goddamn guys first time playing assa, learning it and it feels amazing in m+. I had many doubts as I never liked dot specs but this blasts

[uneven marsh]

What M+ build shall we play in H and M0 dungeons ?

Bleed/fatebound because of how quickly everything dies or shall we stick to hybrid/deathstalker just to get the hang of it and slap in more difficult content ?

[normal mist]

keep in mind m0 = old M10 from s3 and below

So things wont die as fast since we dont really have the gear

[fallow estuary]

i'll play deathstalker and hope its fixxed soon

[normal mist]

I'm also going dealthstalker myself

[uneven marsh]

Seems fair

[normal mist]

But the difference between the two isnt THAT big so you can just play whatever you feel like

[uneven marsh]

How a pain in the ass is it to play around Darkest Night ?

[normal mist]

1 ambush pain

Once you have it rolling its pretty simple

its a damn loop

Ambush from stealth (first global) -> apply mark

5+ cps finishers consume 1 stack of the mark

Once you consume the whole mark you gain D.Night

Now you have a buff on yourself

[uneven marsh]

Maximum CP = 5+ right ?

[wicked carbon]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Xxf9DqQKLbdmGHwF#fight=last&type=casts&source=11&view=timeline
I tried to implement whispyr's advice from yesterday, what do you guys think ?

[normal mist]

so now all you need is to 7CP envenom your target (or a new one)

maximum will be 7

[uneven marsh]

Oh 7 it is then

[normal mist]

so you only 7CP to reapply the mark with the Darkest night buff

then you go back to the 5+ to consume it

its literally a loop

[uneven marsh]

Gotcha

[uneven marsh]

Only on a new target?

[normal mist]

negative

you can Reapply

on the same target

let me edit my earlier message

thanks for noticing

[uneven marsh]

Yeah seems logical with caustic spatter

To funnel into one target

And let poison spread

[normal mist]

yep, will be a lot of BRRRRRRRRR

[uneven marsh]

FoK when > 3 targets, right ?

[weak anvil]

Whats best current embelish for assa?

[normal mist]

Whispyr wants to believe that the crit one is the best

[rotund oak]

everything is on the faq

[normal mist]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/bis-gear

[rotund oak]

btw i think the best way to gear up till next week is delves

[weak anvil]

Unforch cant open on phone

Was just wondering if it was weapons or smth else

[normal mist]

crit embelishment (above 80% hp)

[normal mist]

since you can't open the link on the phone

there you go

[weak anvil]

Ty ty

[swift moss]

is this fake?

[normal mist]

Must be a wowhead bug

[spice surge]

Its a wowhead bug

[normal mist]

^ you heard the man

[patent tangle]

hi so do we play Deathstalker or Fatebound

[manic pebble]

since when you can apply 4 poison effects at once?

[novel storm]

Does anyone know how to change glow when buffs go into pandemic timing on plater?

[thorn fjord]

How long does clear the witnesses last? Or is it perm until you cast FoK?

[vestal crag]

So we don't need to manager the last mark with a Env(maxpoints) to refresh, right?

[spice spire]

Deathstalker for most. If it’s problematic for you in raid there’s a fatebound option

[lunar oracle]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=381801/dragon-tempered-blades

[spice spire]

Since last expansion, DTB was added

[manic pebble]

that's neat

[south lava]

what opener should i use for aoe that dies really fast not enough time for crimson tempest damage to tick down

[dark token]

Garrote garrote rupture rupture

Walk away

[south lava]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[true condor]

i have a question, does devonom stack the proc chance of...

uh

the poison?

[normal mist]

you mean envenom buff?

[true condor]

yea

[normal mist]

it doesnt stack no

its just a buff we maintain

[true condor]

i see ty royal

[thorn fjord]

Does clear the witnesses drop or is it perm till we cast fok?

[normal mist]

not really no, you consume the last mark with a 5+ cp finisher and you gain a buff, where your next 7cp envenom will crit, regen 40 energy and apply mark to the target

[true condor]

a chinese new rogue brother asked why we keep pressing devenom in KB instead of just keep the buff uptime

[cerulean nest]

lasts like 10 seconds or something

[normal mist]

for buff and for dmg

since your dots are on the target and you have pretty much infinite energy during DM

so you can only really spend the overflowing CPs on envenom

[true condor]

and DM could copy the poison dmg which also proc KB twice plus effect right?

[median mango]

Eyo wtf boys, I stopped in Dragonflight after first raid so I just returned to sudden demise being the best thing ever. How fun does that make open world content. I feel like i am in heaven. 😄

[normal mist]

KB itself doesnt replicate, even though it is a poison debuff, but the other poisons / bleeds do

which means you can stack up KB faster

[true condor]

ty royal, i understand how to describe this to him

[normal mist]

All good my man,

[spring socket]

Why doesnt Darkest Night work with Echo Rep, Such a pain

[normal mist]

because blizzard

we hope it is a bug in need of a fix

[spring socket]

or ambush procs triggering mark

[normal mist]

thats not a bug no

Would be wonderful for something else to proc it, especially when we cant stealth on a pull or something and you dont have darkest night active

[deft vault]

is there anyone who has a shiv weakaura thats like bar thaats fills up kinda like dk runes

to track the cds

[normal mist]

@slate crown might help you with that if shes online

[slate crown]

you can make a progress bar type aura with a trigger of Spell: Cooldown on shiv

Set display to use Inverse

Can set it to Always if you always want it showing even when off CD

Or set to On Cooldown to only show the bar when it's on cd

You can also make 2 bars next to each other if you want, one for each shiv charge, inside of the cogwheel options for a spell trigger you can tell it a specific charge # to track

[plain flower]

didnt see any of the darkmoon decks on the trinket tier list are they all shit then?

[slate crown]

(I do this for my mage's fire blast bars, 1 bar per charge, using the charge # option to tell it which one per)

[deft vault]

yeah i want 2 bar next to one another but honestly i used to think i was good with weak aura and its making me crazy rn lol

[normal mist]

just not strong enough compared to the other options, keep in mind ilvl ofc

[deft vault]

COuld you send me your mage fire blast weak aura?

[slate crown]

Yeah it's a bit custom, one sec

[spring socket]

should we be using doomblade now ?

[normal mist]

its on the wowhead guide

[normal mist]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps

[mossy sentinel]

give me suggestions which character to level up next: Spriest, frostdk, resto druid or guardian druid. I enjoy hard but rewarding specs

[normal mist]

rogue

(i actually have no idea about how hard other specs are or aren't)

[mossy sentinel]

Already have

[haughty flicker]

Well frost dk is the opposite of hard

You macro your opener then alternate two buttons

But it can be fun

[gloomy flax]

Spriest if you want to struggle

[austere sorrel]

I think all of those specs are easy, except resto druid which I'm not very familiar with

[mossy sentinel]

Yeah thats what i've noticed. I've never managed to get max lvl dk before getting bored

[slate crown]

https://wago.io/GxhdoP51O

There's some stuff to understand here. This is a single aura which produces multiple States (one per charge, you can see how I have 3 triggers for charges, then 1 trigger at the front to produce the 3 states). The idea is that you place this inside of a dynamic group to have it lay out the bars for you. This should also "just work" if you swap to one shiv charge and hide the second bar

So, take this, delete the last trigger (because you only need 2 charges for shiv), change the spell IDs to shiv, update the first trigger events to only look at TRIGGER:2:3 to remove the 4th trigger from it. Then, place this inside of a dynamic group and adjust whatever settings you want for the grows. (Also update the load conditions, this will only load for mages).

I have my own dynamic group with a custom grow which resizes the bars to always fit the same total width regardless of number of bars inside. I can send that over as well if you'd want that.

Also disclaimer it's not one of my polished pack auras, I think it works just fine and all but I haven't stared at it for hours to optimize it like I have my main pack auras. Just a hidden link for easier transfer

[normal mist]

Thanks Lisonna, you're the GOAT

[slate crown]

back to prospecting

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-rat-ratjam-catjam-ratjammers-gif-21929051

[deft vault]

Nice thanks a lot!

[slate crown]

np

[tired gull]

How’s everyone’s world quest rewards? I’ve gotten only shoulders

[past forum]

Guardian druid farts lasers everywhere and it’s actually so fun visually

[tired gull]

Also are delves supposed to give loot? I’ve don’t maybe 10 and haven’t gotten a single piece of gear

[potent rune]

anyone know if the darkmoon trinkets are worth and if so which one?

[spice surge]

Not particularly

[normal mist]

they are worth purely for the Ilvl

and will be soon replaced

[haughty flicker]

they arent going for hundreds of thousands like that stupid inferno deck or whatever in df

so if you just want some cheap ilvl might as well get one

oh some are going for hundreds of thousands

dont buy those

[potent rune]

i think themost i seen was 5k

just dont know which one is goodfor us

[haughty flicker]

yeah actually what im seeing is the sigils, the decks are all cheap

[brazen fern]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[true condor]

does the tea and vanish still apply for the "6/3 sec left" rule or it changed? we just need to follow the rule

[tired gull]

Brothers dark moon trinkets were over 100k on my server last night

[haughty flicker]

the scammers were out in force

[slate crown]

Changed.

Tea = "Use with Shiv if you won't cap energy"

Vanish = "Use to reapply improved garrote for deathmark" - During your opener deathmark, use it to cast garrote during your opener garrote's pandemic window.

[true condor]

[tawdry gulch]

hey whispyr, do u know like a general idea of what order to use all the cds in m+ on a boss?

like shiv, echo, deathmark, kingsbane etc

and tea iguess, the first one

[slate crown]

A tip for Tea that I use, I put a Tick marker on my energy bar at ~115 energy below maximum energy, and I show the tick when Shiv is active only. That way I know when Tea should be used (during shiv) and visually have a marker on my energy for where it's appropriate to

[true condor]

thats helpful, then we wont overcap energy and make full use of tea

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/nodders-gif-26414892

[tired gull]

How difficult would it be to add a flare to the 7th combo point when you can reapply deathstalker with envenom in a wa

[slate crown]

Probably annoying for the default combo points

If you have a combo point weakaura itself

pretty easy

Mine does it

[tired gull]

Oh sick

[slate crown]

The gif preview for assa is deathstalker, it shows it doing it

[normal mist]

have you read the guide

The poor guy must have spent countless hours writting everything so we could use xD

[dark token]

is it just me

or is sudden demise bugged at 80

[normal mist]

I wish i could tell you

if i wasn't stuck at level 70

[dark token]

it was doing 30% of my dmg leveling, instantly executing mobs and now it doesnt execute mobs even at 5% hp

[normal mist]

oh

scaling

[dark token]

ye but i mean

at 78

i was already scaled weaker

and it was executing at 20%

now the mobs like 5% and it doesnt proc

[normal mist]

now you're even weaker

[dark token]

my abilities still do the same dmg

enemies just have more hp

[thorn fjord]

works for me half the time

[normal mist]

exactly

[dark token]

this is 800k dmg for a full rupturew

it should execute this shitter mob

it doesnt

[normal mist]

I'm not a math guy but, if you're doing the same damage and the mobs have even more health

[dark token]

im not talking in general

it should instantly execute this mob

at 35% hp

based on this ability math

[earnest remnant]

Sudden demise has always been giga borked in open world

[dark token]

it doesnt

[earnest remnant]

for what its worth

[dark token]

it was fine leveling

there is no way

this doesnt execute now

xd

its 100% borked

[earnest remnant]

its the same kind of borked as it was back in open world content in DF

[granite mantle]

anyone know why the mouseover cast doesnt work?

the default option

[dark token]

sure, but i know it was doing insane dmg until 80 and suddenly stopped

its weird af

[earnest remnant]

its the world scaling messing it up

[dark token]

so clearly it CAN work in open world

[earnest remnant]

the math cant math it

[granite mantle]

do i need a macro for mouseover shadowstep to work?

[dark token]

yes

[granite mantle]

it doesnt work with the default mouseover option?

[dark token]

i have no idea what that is

[worldly sentinel]

Just spam CT, no need for the shadowstep global

[dark token]

who asked

[thorn fjord]

/cast [@mouseover] shadowstep
#showtooltip

[dark token]

ye idk this is new setting ive never touched it

play with it

[worldly sentinel]

Was a joke 😮 apologies

[dark token]

same :)

[haughty flicker]

just checked and it works fine for me, though i would recommend using macros instead of the default option anyway

[granite mantle]

oh i see

[haughty flicker]

just so you dont have literally everything casting with mouseover accidentally

[granite mantle]

was just wondering

since im used to using it with my other characters

does it work with rupture/garrote?

[thorn fjord]

hmm

[granite mantle]

cant really tell right now since my shit is aoe lol

[thorn fjord]

Macro is saying invalid target for me now

[granite mantle]

actually lemme try

[haughty flicker]

works with everything for me

[granite mantle]

nope

doesnt work

[haughty flicker]

also just nearly died hitting a dummy bc i didnt realize it was the tank dummy

[thorn fjord]

dummy

Weird tho my mouse over macro aint working

Made a new one too just in case

[haughty flicker]

it looks the exact same not my fault

i just didnt notice the health

[thorn fjord]

One on the left is fatter

[haughty flicker]

no it isnt

even if it was wouldnt you assume the fat one would be the tank dummy

[thorn fjord]

Looks like it in the pic

[haughty flicker]

because the one on the right is the tank dummy

[granite mantle]

hmm its weird for me it kinda works but not really

it still prioritizes my current target

also is indiscriminate carnage smart? will my dots go to undotted targets first?

[thorn fjord]

Macro works for me when im in combat with the mob im trying to step to

[haughty flicker]

idk why, maybe an addon is interfering or something

[thorn fjord]

Says invalid if im not

[granite mantle]

i mean ig its nbd ill just macro everything if i need to

[haughty flicker]

and yes ic is smart

[granite mantle]

was just hoping the option would make my life easier

so at 6 mobs i garrote, tab, garrote?

garrote, tab on undotted**, garrote

[thorn fjord]

You can cast it on the same mob twice and it'll spread

dont neccesarilly have to tab

[haughty flicker]

you'll lose one gar/rup

if you dont tab

[worldly sentinel]

Yes. Semi smart. It will always garrote the main target, but spread to 2 non dotted targets

[haughty flicker]

but like

its 1 so eh

you still get your 5 scent stacks so being lazy is fine

[granite mantle]

ye thats why i usually try to mouseover it lol