assassination

[grim jay]

I wish I wouldve dodged it while thanking our fellow mages for the invis post

[quasi sonnet]

... I just realized what you mean lol ur right sorry

it was more of a joke but its in bad taste

[indigo mulch]

Dodge filter? O_o

[royal lantern]

just be aware that it was wrong, dont double down on it (cus we had people doing that 🙂 ) and its ok

[ripe carbon]

language filter

[simple violet]

In mythic dungeons we want to be AOE but when we do single target on bosses, I'm finding im energy starved due to lack of mobs with bleeds. Any suggestions?

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/doggie-snapchat-dog-filter-tongue-out-selfie-gif-17240749

doge filter

is what he meant

[balmy condor]

that's how the spec is designed

you're not doing something wrong

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor btw, gotta admit, going trought applications is really funny

you have so many m+ andys that straight up say "yeha, i just want mythic trinket for M+ PUSHING!!!1111!!!!" (and then peaked at 3.2k)

or how we had somebody that applied to a wr500 mythic guild with SoD logs

[balmy condor]

we had a healer apply last week with green heroic raid logs, no mythic progression since legion, no CE ever

linking m+ logs in his app

[spice spire]

Honestly

I respect that

Shooters shoot

[shut canopy]

shooters shoot

LMAO

[balmy condor]

I fucking don't respect that

[haughty flicker]

Can I apply and link my 100 ilvl parse as aff in lfr

[spice spire]

Lemme app my logs from 3 seasons ago BRB

[cunning cloak]

does xavius ce count...

[spice spire]

Bro at least make it this decade

[balmy condor]

and then while he was answering questions he's like yeah I just want a guild that gets done with raiding fairly quickly so I have my gear for mythic+ and can push

[royal lantern]

eh its more like

CE from 2 expansions ago is always a bit weird, cus its not really "recent raid experience" anymore

[balmy condor]

and we're like oh nice decline

[shy dust]

Quake CE checking people

[spice spire]

I’ve changed

[royal lantern]

like sure, if somebody can show up and say "Mythic logs from Legion until DF" its different, then those Legion logs actually means SOMETHING, cus you know its a person that raids for a long time now

[slim hamlet]

Based as fuck

[royal lantern]

but only having Legion logs going into TWW is a bit

[low ruin]

yeh but do you know how hard it is to get into mythic raiding now without "recent" experience

[royal lantern]

on lower ranks? not hard at all

[balmy condor]

not if you're applying to lower ranks

[haughty flicker]

Absolutely not hard at all

[low ruin]

CE capable and up

[royal lantern]

people just always try to instantly shoot for 700 and higher

[haughty flicker]

I did it in s2

[low ruin]

not just 1/X "mythicx guids"

[balmy condor]

this dude is apping to WR350 guild with 0 mythic experience at all

that's delusional

[haughty flicker]

Aotc andy, just applied to shit and got 8/9M that season

[slim hamlet]

I got into a mid mythic guild as my first with only an AOTC from 2 tiers prior

[shy dust]

It hasn’t been hard for a while now

[low ruin]

well yeh in this case i dont disagree

[haughty flicker]

Have good heroic logs and just send shit

[shy dust]

Perform well in heroic just a mythic raiding guild and woke up

[grim jay]

its pretty easy as long as you can fit the time into your schedule

many CE guilds are trying to get their hands on new players

and many ce guild have multiple raids

you can work your way up in

[balmy condor]

but yeh there's plenty of mythic raiding guilds that are capable of late-tier CE that will accept people with big heroic logs

[royal lantern]

like, just dont aim for the bigger guilds, gotta accept that you will need some time for CE

[balmy condor]

and they're always looking for people to fight the roster boss

[haughty flicker]

I need to actually apply to guilds still

[royal lantern]

tbh, EVERY guild fights that one

[haughty flicker]

Think I might just chill s1

[spice spire]

I’m firmly at shitter tier s1

One day raiding

[royal lantern]

EU + Mage? :3

[haughty flicker]

No and how dare you

[royal lantern]

cus we lost our mage 2 weeks ago

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/furry-wiggle-mrrp-nya-colon-three-gif-27633901

[shy pecan]

I went from like pugging for one or two bosses in EP to doing like 10/12 the season after in Nyalotha the season after.

[grim jay]

arent they all rerolling to mage

[shy pecan]

#1080572530554835072

[royal lantern]

bruh, our rooster is the most cursed shit ever, i love them

24 main raiders, 4 paladins with 3 ret mains, and 2 WW monks

[nova aspen]

guys which hero talent u leveling with

[cunning basin]

Yeah it's pretty easy to get into like a wr1000 or so guild with little or no recent experience. I got into my current guild by linking my MoP and WoD CEs and having purple parses on the only 2 mythic bosses I did in aberrus before joining them

[grim jay]

you have a rooster? you yourself or as a guild?

[cunning basin]

I got into a guild progging Rashok when I'd never killed Zaqali Assault KEK

[royal lantern]

wanna take a gues who that weirdo is

[shy pecan]

🐀

[spice spire]

As someone who recruited for a bit there’s a lot of random people like this and it’s like 70/30 on shitters to gamers

But sometimes you just find a gamer

[cunning basin]

[grim jay]

we have 3 potential rogue mains in one and 1 (me) in the other

[shy dust]

Just be the best rogue

It ain’t hard

[jaunty dew]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[royal lantern]

yeha, like, both sides sometimes just have to take the shoot

[cunning basin]

Yeah. In my experience a lot of times lower rank CE guilds are much more willing to at least give you a trial/little benefit of the doubt to prove yourself

[royal lantern]

another thing many people somewhat tend to forget

[cunning basin]

Even now when I give my input I remind my rl that myself and 2 other really solid raiders were like 1/9m or 2/9m when we got picked up

[patent igloo]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[royal lantern]

lower ranking but 2 day raiding is often still a REALLY high raid quality

cus 2day raiding just needs a group that learns way faster

[cunning basin]

Also my whole team thinks I'm insane because I unironically loved progging tindral lol

[royal lantern]

and wr900 2days is less frustraiting then wr500-600 3days lol

[past bobcat]

Is ass rogue looking goated for TWW

[cunning basin]

Everyone trying their hardest to get sat for that boss and I'm like pls put me in for owl man I wanna fly around and blow stuff up

[royal lantern]

people hate me for saying that painsmith was a 10/10 boss

[cunning basin]

I never got to do painsmith and I'm v sad about it bc I also liked halondrus, and a couple other bosses people always bitch about

So I assume I probs would have loved it

[jaunty dew]

@balmy condor Any idea when you'll push an update to your wa? 🙂

[haughty flicker]

I was in a guild progging aotc during sanctum

So I definitely didn’t see mythic painsmith lmao

[upper wraith]

Ass rogue gonna be the sleeper spec of s1

[indigo mulch]

I don't think anyone think that sin is a sleeper spec at this point, everyone seam to be raving how good aoe they have ;o

[upper wraith]

Shhhh

[royal lantern]

when he has time

current time is KINDA stressfull for TC guys that also have to write wowhead stuff

espacially when at any moment blizz can throw chunks of your work away

[jaunty dew]

Figured as much, just wanted to know if its a week thing or a month thing xD

[royal lantern]

cus they make bigger changes in a patch

[jaunty dew]

Afenar was a favorite layout/design for me so dont really wanna change to lux or others

[grim jay]

*complaining

[jaunty dew]

No, people see sims with big numbers and assume sin as 2 button spec that pulls those numbers

That's why a lot of the fotm rollers into sin will probably drop it because they won't pull those numbers and think the class sucks

[indigo mulch]

I hope so.

[runic basin]

until caustic spatter nerf

[snow kindle]

God caustic spatter is so cool

[jaunty dew]

I honestly don't see CS getting nerfed

[limber lion]

I loved Painsmith as a fellow degenerate

[jaunty dew]

But we'll see how broken it is with DS

[limber lion]

Deeper Stratagem

Dashing Scoundrel

[jaunty dew]

Deathstalker

xD

[limber lion]

Take your pick

[jaunty dew]

I pick u

[balmy condor]

[snow kindle]

I wish CS had the same dopamine as pressing Blade flurry tho

[hearty reef]

Kek

[spice spire]

Can’t wait until 11.4 when whispyr makes a hiya compilation

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-more-money-eds-gif-26437995

[balmy condor]

I don't understand the algorithm

[jaunty dew]

people love to hear you babble

[balmy condor]

youtube is like YOOOOOOOO THEY ARE WATCHING FOR SO LONG

but it's also a 55 min video

so

??

[cunning basin]

KEK

[visual prairie]

so you guys are supposed to be good at aoe now, but is it still super try hard wiht all the buttons and the dots and the hoo ha or is it easier too?

[worldly sentinel]

whats the watchtime???

[balmy condor]

uhhhh

625 hours

[worldly sentinel]

per viewer i mean

[balmy condor]

that is the per viewer

13:53

[worldly sentinel]

yeez

i need to yap more, hot numbers

[balmy condor]

yeh I mean it's about on par

[brazen mulch]

/wa

[runic hinge]

Ours looks the same

[balmy condor]

usually view duration is 25-30%

holds true for 10 min videos and holds true for 60 min videos I guess

[tired gull]

i watched the full raid vid i think, but i had it sped up so i was ruining the actual watch time 😦

[balmy condor]

yeh most people do

[tall jay]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[tall jay]

got to pull the plater again 😄

[strange python]

I’ll have the video on repeat before I go sleep, bumping those numbers

[haughty flicker]

I watch on .25

[rotund oak]

ppl value dudes that help them learn

u help ppl,airgo

[thorn fjord]

I value dudes that help me grow

[rotund oak]

uwu

[royal lantern]

uwu

[indigo mulch]

[normal mist]

i actually fell asleep watching your video

[royal lantern]

whisp ASMR

[normal mist]

(tbf it was late and i went to bed to sleep)

Even asleep

i watched the full thing

[indigo mulch]

Its like, how people fall asleep while listening to another language to become better speaker.

[digital venture]

Is Ceverion's Platter profile updated for wwt m+s?

[limber lion]

It does indeed work, but there are no specific extra colors for the new dungeons

[safe sand]

Are there sims to look at for TWW? I'm sure they'll change, just curious on the progress

[spice spire]

Goat

[limber lion]

There are some but not really something we spread everywhere

Whispyr has sims, it'a down to him if he wants to share em or not

[balmy condor]

fuck that

that reminded

god damnit

I need to push an update

aaaaaaaaaa

too much to do

[indigo mulch]

[digital venture]

I really love the look of it and how you handle the dots from out class but I'm not sure I can copy that configuration to my profile

[limber lion]

Full bleed with Sudden Demise

[normal mist]

not really, just something like a m+ one is good enough

[limber lion]

Well if the m+ color thing is the only thing that keeps you from using it, you can just simply copy-paste someone else's colors and paste them on the profile

Like yours or Quazii's or whatever. It should be very simple as they are handled differently

But heh thanks! I should probs look into updating it some day

[digital venture]

It's by far the one that's better optimized to rogues! So I'm gonna try to work around what's missing cuz I won't be able to play without it 💪

[shy pecan]

Are you trying to copy and paste the script over to your profile?

[tired gull]

would shrouded suffocation make leveling better qol

[limber lion]

Doesn't really do much by itself honestly.

Just take all the bleed nodes

[digital venture]

I'm not sure what part of the profile is but what I like about cev's profile is the pandemic config and what buffs/debuffs the profile shows

[balmy condor]

[limber lion]

Yeah it's a heavy blacklist and a bunch of scripts

[somber sparrow]

that dummy slays

[limber lion]

I need a new color for important/cleave mobs because they're purple gg.

Or I make Mark pink

Hmm

[runic hinge]

PINK

let’s gooo

[limber lion]

Gotta make Kreem work for me

[balmy condor]

is that an addon

[shy pecan]

If it's the coloring for when you have a debuff, I'm pretty sure that's a script, which you can get from his scripts section?

[limber lion]

Wut

No Ed

[limber lion]

He's my personal slave

[shy pecan]

Huh?

[balmy condor]

I see

[limber lion]

You're talking about different things

[shy pecan]

Oh

Pandemic glows are scripts, yeah?

[lunar sonnet]

@balmy condor was watching your raid video today, great stuff thank you for it all! I noticed the spell history on the left and i liked it a lot, is that a weakaura or an addon?

[balmy condor]

IM GOING TO FUCKING SCREAM

[indigo mulch]

Enjoy the sims

[marble hemlock]

hahahahaha

[limber lion]

Wtf

[shy pecan]

[limber lion]

How

Xddd

[dreamy canyon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[lunar sonnet]

Oop

[balmy condor]

hehe xd whoopsie poopsie! We just realized trinkets are FIFTY PERCENT TOO WEAK

ON LAUNCH DAY

[haughty flicker]

whispyr what trinky now

whipsyr

trinky

[limber lion]

Best QA on the planet btw

[balmy condor]

HA HA HOW SILLY OF US WE ARE SO QUIRKY

[floral vale]

50% is an insane number

[spice surge]

Only damage ones?

[limber lion]

And healing

[floral vale]

But hey you did say trinkets suck so now maybe they won’t suck!

[haughty flicker]

seems like just dam and healing ye

[balmy condor]

who knows

[limber lion]

All trinkets

Surely buff ones are safe

[indigo mulch]

But, thats great. You get to enjoy simming all the new trinkets!

Many funs

[limber lion]

[balmy condor]

it says "Damage and healing of all trinkets and similar items"

but who knows what that means

[floral vale]

Praying for my dungeon trinkets

[balmy condor]

does that include the embellish dagger?

[indigo mulch]

Knowing blizzard. Prob.

[balmy condor]

is the embellish dagger still 2.6 attack speed and not 1.8

[spice spire]

Dog there’s no way this is real

[haughty flicker]

actually such a wild thing to just randomly drop an hour before release

did they know this whole time and just not fix it until now

[spice spire]

Blizzard really outside rn

[haughty flicker]

or did they really just double check last minute

and realize oh shit

this aint right

[balmy condor]

this MIGHT be my 13th reason

[indigo mulch]

To bake a cake?

[spice spire]

Wait I got this

[potent dawn]

To BECOME a cake

[spice spire]

They buff double vanish actually

[indigo mulch]

[balmy condor]

I'd say I gonna jump off the golden gate but they put nets up and shit years ago so it's not even useable as a punchline anymore

[lyric glen]

get that opener weakaura ready fam

[balmy condor]

what the fuck is that

[cunning cloak]

just try and swim to alcatraz

[lyric glen]

haha

[balmy condor]

bro is writing weakauras in assembly

[indigo mulch]

lmao

[balmy condor]

[potent dawn]

your 14th reason

[balmy condor]

can't count that high

[potent dawn]

Tough when you missing toes

[balmy condor]

yeh only got 13 toes

[indigo mulch]

Lets go

[balmy condor]

they're all there

[potent dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/the-house-will-ferrell-the-math-seems-to-check-out-gif-8225008

[balmy condor]

count em up

[indigo mulch]

Why is this giving me an errection?

[balmy condor]

cause you're weird

[indigo mulch]

Makes sense.

[balmy condor]

OH OKAY GUYS

ITS JUST A BUG FIX

[marble hemlock]

bring a knife so you can cut through them

[balmy condor]

[hexed canopy]

are there any leveling talent builds?

[marble hemlock]

hgehehe

[spice surge]

Do you think the embellishments will get a 50% bugfix too

[balmy condor]

use an m+ build

[hexed canopy]

thank you

[indigo mulch]

[balmy condor]

I mean before we even think about embellishments getting a bug fix the question really should be is this actually fixing ALL trinkets

I'd put money on them fucking it up

[spice surge]

Would be a shame if they forgot transmitter

[haughty flicker]

such a shame

[raven egret]

professions are so undercooked its laughable

[balmy condor]

flayedwing gamers maybe

[haughty flicker]

pls no i cant farm nw again

actually its not transmitter

so thats fine

[balmy condor]

even more cursed would be playing the void reaper contract without being able to complete the set bonus

[spice surge]

But it does nature damage, so you get +30% dmg to it during lingering as deathstalker

[balmy condor]

true, they forgot to whitelist it

[spice surge]

Shadow is way better than naturethough

[rigid tartan]

is this for real, also current trinkets from df?

[spice surge]

Tons of shadow effects

[balmy condor]

okay well, if the buffs hit flayedwing or void reaper I think those skyrocket up to the top, there's a chance for honey buzzer

[raven egret]

CAN'T GO WRONG! Flayedwing stonks!

[balmy condor]

yes

idk bout df trinkets

but.... who cares?

df trinkets are dead by tuesday

[dusty phoenix]

Skardyns grace my old friend.. it was insane if it titanforged from timewalking in legion

Cant wait to farm it again xd

[past forum]

its actually not possible. i tried to go wrong, but it always came up right

[balmy condor]

Damn

Bro is winning

[past forum]

no matter how hard i try, cant stop winning

[balmy condor]

Team I have terrible news

[balmy condor]

My tummy hurt

[bleak ledge]

Eat a banana

[past forum]

gg go next, it's joever

[balmy condor]

Don’t have a banana in the bathroom

[normal mist]

weird flex but ok

[haughty flicker]

shouldve been prepared

[past forum]

no banana in the bathroom, obvious krill issue

[balmy condor]

I’m fighting a war

No time for banana

[past forum]

whispyr fighting the real war within rn

[silk bane]

but i got this bannana specially for u wink wink wink wink wink

[royal lantern]

whisp tierlist whisp tierlist

[storm forum]

Whispyr wtf my tummy also hurt

I'm typing this from my toilet

Send help

[normal mist]

hold hands

[indigo mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-dumber-laxative-tea-jim-gif-8192439

[royal lantern]

a war within your own body?

[past forum]

my tummy doesnt hurt rn but i made a faaaaat crockpot of chipotle chili so i could game and not worry about cooking, so i might join the squad soon

[native swan]

Hey Fellas, what hero talents should I invest into for Assassin Rogue PVE?

Like M+

[normal mist]

depends on tuning

and bug fixes

[indigo mulch]

And anger

[native swan]

I know but which one is looking better to lvl with

and start as

[bleak ledge]

[royal lantern]

flying around legion land while waiting the last 20min

[spice spire]

Mf should be flying around the neighborhood touching grass

[normal mist]

you'll gain 1 talent point per level, starting at 71, so it wont even matter while leveling

[royal lantern]

its 11pm mr grungler

[spice spire]

I said what I said

I am no longer the grungler

[royal lantern]

you will always be the grungler in our hearts

[silk bane]

is it in like 15 min ?

[runic hinge]

Yes but do I want to death mark or flip coin

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[slate crown]

But I have to go do 🛒

[silk bane]

Smh you need to be prepared for these… (I just door dashed a bunch of food and enough caffeine to give a baby elephant a heartattack - all nighters time)

[thick stratus]

can some1 tell me rotation after pressing kingsbane pleased

[balmy condor]

Envenom

[thick stratus]

thistle + shiv + env ?

[keen viper]

Holla 😄

[azure owl]

Goodluck while leveling lads ; )

Enjoy

[royal lantern]

guys, am i too late for tww?

[tired gull]

yes, tww is old news

[raven egret]

T-10 minutes, good luck my fellow rogues, love you all

[royal lantern]

dont forget to sacrifice a newborn to the server gods

[spice spire]

Good luck friends

[white lance]

dont forget to have fun!

[indigo mulch]

Just chill! 😄

we have like 2 weeks ;X

[balmy condor]

Are servers even up

[indigo mulch]

EU is up 😮

[balmy condor]

Why the hell they announce maintenance until 8

[tired gull]

i've been online for the last hour

it was a typo in the notification, it was 8am

[balmy condor]

Blizzard

guess it's stream time then

holy

[white lance]

cooked

[raven egret]

servers been up for hours yeah XD

[balmy condor]

game sucks

[marble hemlock]

real

[royal lantern]

there are 9 taivans standing around to pet

im having fun while waiting

[haughty flicker]

it here

waow

[haughty flicker]

alleria is hot fuck xalatath

[marble hemlock]

soon we can start the clock until assa gets nerfed into the ground. wanna bet on the over/under if itll be faster/slower than in DF?

[spice spire]

Seli

[thorn fjord]

Over

[spice spire]

Shut your beautiful fucking mouth

[thorn fjord]

😂

[spice spire]

Before I do it for you

[royal lantern]

please dont be a generic doomer seli

[spice spire]

With my lips

[royal lantern]

[marble hemlock]

give me smth to shut it with then

jeez

[spice spire]

Already beat you to the punch line pal

Get woke

[indigo mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/kimmoli-gif-25370538

[marble hemlock]

just that one sentence was already higher quality dooming that most of the other people in here

[marble hemlock]

is that the queue of people who wanna punch you?

cuz then ill have to get in line for sure

[spice spire]

Yeah

[marble hemlock]

you know what'd be funny

[tired gull]

my level xp weakaura just activated

[marble hemlock]

if EA doesnt work

and theyre just gonna go "oh yeah sry we will refund yall, see you on the 27th"

[mystic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1269406569557393428/1271189435161247855/pig.gif

[thorn fjord]

Refund? Lawl

They’ll just give us free game time

[runic hinge]

3 days of game time pls

[thorn fjord]

Welcome to TWW boiz

[runic hinge]

(My sub isn’t out until after Christmas)

[spice spire]

[haughty flicker]

holy fuck i teleported without crashing

its a miracle

[silk bane]

man wow is such a weird thing....

I had legit 0 excitement for this xpac but now looking at this quest right here

im excited i dont even know why or how

[haughty flicker]

leveling is always hype

[silk bane]

im just happy to be doing this lmfao

[haughty flicker]

even if everything else might end up sucking

[royal lantern]

@rotund oak are you max level yet?

[haughty flicker]

hes on his third toon

[silk bane]

BRO THE PLOT TWIST

2 QUESTS IN

LETS GOO

[brave blaze]

any rogue profession recommendations?

[haughty flicker]

holy fuck this earthen sounds like a gigachad

[uneven plume]

im standing in dalaran

and nothing is happening

are we supposed to do something?

to activate early access?

[haughty flicker]

speak to dadghar

[uneven plume]

who?

in valdrakken?

[haughty flicker]

no

in the room with coma dwarf in dalaran

[uneven plume]

all i see is rhonin

[haughty flicker]

i think you may be lost friend

[wide ferry]

dawg these cutscenes are 10/10

[uneven plume]

are you supposed to do the slithius quest first?

[wide ferry]

yes

[indigo mulch]

[pliant remnant]

SAVED

[haughty flicker]

i like how my character is always there in the cutscenes just awkwardly staring

rip forgot to turn off wowhead channel

fucking spoilers in titles

[little tulip]

umm

[cold remnant]

Wow overwhelming , how do new players keep the expansions straight

[little tulip]

except for sprint never cooling down ev er an no grappling hook

[royal lantern]

i cant learn blacksmith

cus the trainer just doesnt open the window

[flint parrot]

What talent tree you all sticking with for the leveling?

[little tulip]

has a rogue ever gotten close to world first honestly?

always figured it was some chad warrior/mage getting those lol

[balmy condor]

world first what

[fierce sigil]

which hero tzalents do we choose from the beginning?

[little tulip]

level cap i think

[balmy condor]

they're both good

generally deathstalker

[balmy condor]

do people actually care about that

[fierce sigil]

for m+ and raid in the end?

[balmy condor]

yes

[fierce sigil]

ty Mr Whispyr

[little tulip]

the short answer is yes probably

but long answer is maybe and no haha

[balmy condor]

there is no such thing as a "best" profession

[little tulip]

if you have a lot of money and can buy mats pick lw or something

doing jewelcrafting and skinning personally

literally paid like 6k for a 525 life bound belt 3 months ago lw's good et cetera

[cunning cloak]

no

[balmy condor]

the most you'll get out of it is alchemy has double duration flasks

other than that there's nothing that provides character power

[cold remnant]

I picked mining and BS
Mining has made me gold so far and BS hasn't payed off , but I am new so.....

[hoary remnant]

@balmy condor what does this bugfix mean in teems of output?

They are fixing bugs that seem weird

[balmy condor]

the deathmark thing is like 0.3%

[hoary remnant]

Ok so the sum of fixing all the bugs will be a buff. So hoping for more to come. Ty for answer

[spice surge]

@marble hemlock

[marble hemlock]

@spice surge https://i.imgur.com/fXb6e4u.jpeg

[spice surge]

Ye i saw

Just didnt see you

[spice spire]

God I wish I saw eleem-ragnaros

Are you still a panda

[spice surge]

Unfortunately no

Ive abandoned my true self for small dps gains

My ideas and values, all sacrificed in the name of simdps

[tall atlas]

Ah

So you play Tauren

[spice surge]

No orc

[tall atlas]

Ew

You gotta be a hoofed assasin

The clip clop killer

[candid hull]

Pressing ambush feels weird

[random fossil]

whats the trick to leveling fast

[subtle tundra]

play

[subtle kiln]

Shotgun monsters

[arctic socket]

@balmy condor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-r-V0uK4u0

[slim pebble]

What hero talent are yall leveling as? Not that it matterts

[inner valley]

i went fatebound

[royal lantern]

whats the point of the new flying glyphs

[spice surge]

Prob if you dont have the ones from dragonflight

[gilded jewel]

I remember reading there were gonna be new talents since df talents are baseline now; but cant confirm

[chilly lichen]

Hi someone has a good elvui profile to give me ?

[subtle kiln]

Look on wago.io

[chilly lichen]

ty

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/qeliameow-cat-paw-cats-paw-dance-gif-3807241812430059413

[novel arrow]

Guys were there changes from Prepatch to Today?

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah

[novel arrow]

Like from yesterday to today?

[balmy condor]

expansion is out

[novel arrow]

Oh...... I thought the pre patch (yesterday) would be the same stuff

like all thats dif would be quests 😮

[balmy condor]

hero talents are new

[novel arrow]

my friends freaking out his shaman is different today than yesterday. Apparently no lava surge

[balmy condor]

base specs shouldn't have changed

[normal mist]

Was watching your stream, the BGM music sounds fitting for the area environment you're in RN, and since you aint talking much atm one can really listen to it lol

[novel arrow]

omg I have to press ambush for deathstalkers mark! Nooo not like this!

[balmy condor]

it's a vibe

[normal mist]

We've been sad about it for a while now

[novel arrow]

I'm finding out now 😦 Day 1 reactions

[normal mist]

Oh boy you've stuff to read

[novel arrow]

Just direct me to the right place to read stuff up

[normal mist]

I love it how after the early access went live, the channels are now a bit empty

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[normal mist]

I prefer the wowhead one but it's up to you

[finite yarrow]

i think eq bug gone

[normal mist]

EQ?

[finite yarrow]

echo rep, er sorry long day

[normal mist]

Whispyr is currently streaming, maybe he can check

[balmy condor]

what bug

[finite yarrow]

3 cp env consumes charge of mark

when charged with echo

[normal mist]

If that's actually true, is this the good ending?

That would be really good (especially for Whispyr so he doesn't need to change the guides / openers) hehe

[balmy condor]

it's not fixed

[normal mist]

Goro baiting us

[finite yarrow]

worked on my screen, ill check again

[final star]

@finite yarrow didn't you play fellowship

[finite yarrow]

i did, like 1 or 2 dungeons

[final star]

[wide ferry]

anyone else not able to change talents lol says i havent spent all points when i def have

[raven night]

if youre using the better talent tweaks addon it bugs out so u gotta back out then redo it sometimes

had it happen once already

happened a lot before tww too

[haughty flicker]

nah its a base game bug

not addon

also important message

the kobolds sound like gollum

and its fantastic

[knotty kestrel]

Deathstalker stonks?

Up or down

[balmy condor]

wdym

same as it was

[knotty kestrel]

I mean is it bad or good

[balmy condor]

it's our preferred tree everywhere

[knotty kestrel]

Sick

Ty

Pun intended.

[dark token]

im so used to the garrote at start of combat from sin

i havent procced deathstalker mark once up to lvl 76

like 15 yrs of garrote start of pull

feels so dogshit to start with mut

[merry shell]

recently picked up rogue so have been using ambush as an opener in anticipation xd

[dark token]

on the other hand the bonespike change is fucking amazing

[modern olive]

is sin difficult to pick up

[balmy condor]

nah

the basics are real straight forward

it just gets difficult past the basics, needs some practice and experience for decisionmaking

[wide ferry]

sooo with deathstalker...5 mobs, i ambush the first, apply mark, spread bleeds, first one dies, im out of stealk with no way to ambush...now what....

[modern olive]

i played outlaw last expansion and it was pretty tough but i wanted to try sin

[spice surge]

You get the capstone when the mark dies

[wide ferry]

ahh ok so until i hit 80 i just gotta eat shit lmao

[spice surge]

The capstone is at like 74

[chilly marsh]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/fixing-the-performance-of-war-within-trinkets/1925027

you guys saw that? 50% "buff"

[balmy condor]

yeh

[spice surge]

Ye trinket stank before

[balmy condor]

was wowhead news earlier today

[spice surge]

Now they stink less

[chilly marsh]

change teh bis?

[spice surge]

No clue

[balmy condor]

it might

it might not

[chilly marsh]

wait and see then

[edgy dragon]

@balmy condor Just a heads up - the Copy Delves Build URL copy here is broken: https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps

[balmy condor]

hm

[balmy condor]

fixed, thanks

[edgy dragon]

Thanks for putting it together, looks great.

[balmy condor]

thanks!

[potent raven]

rxp

[strange python]

Is rxp guide out now?

[balmy condor]

rxp?

[strange python]

Rested xp

Website for leveling

[balmy condor]

idk what that is

[slate crown]

it's a classic leveling guide

like zygore

and you don't need it for retail

[strange python]

Gives you an arrow and tells you what to do

[raven egret]

just stay busy, its not that hard to lvl

[slate crown]

I promise double tripple promise you

The game is created to guide you through now

there's an arrow in game

[strange python]

Oh ok cool

I’m setting everything up on my legion go and it’s taking me forever lol

[dark token]

the moving of subterfuge actually so ass

you can tell deathstalker was designed around having it

[muted tide]

wouldnt this create an infinite loop with caustic spatter?

or no cause its not poison damage maybe

[balmy condor]

it's doesn't caustic spatter itself

even if it was an infinite loop, 5% of 5% of 5% very quickly goes to 0

so it wouldn't even be that bad

[muted tide]

yeah thats true

the mark falls off pretty fast as well

[balmy condor]

wdym falls off

[muted tide]

each time u spend 5 combo points it takes a stack from deathstalker

[iron valve]

learn the capstone

[muted tide]

and u do that hella fast

[balmy condor]

yeh

thats when the capstone comes in

to reapply

[muted tide]

oh shiiiiit

thats gonna be nasty

[hollow wigeon]

hey guys, some friends are saying that ass rogue got nerfed for the early access, thats right?

[balmy condor]

no?

it got buffed even

not a lot but the hotfix today was a minor gain

[strange python]

im just peeping around here, new-ish wow player, how's the rogue meta looking so far? like whats the go to spec rn?

[balmy condor]

too early to tell

the content that determines the meta isn't out for another 3 weeks

lots of tuning and such between now and then

[strange python]

Is mythic+ out already or not

[slate crown]

No

[balmy condor]

3 weeks

[strange python]

ah I see so only thing we can do rn is the story etc?

[balmy condor]

and normal/heroic dungeons yeah

[strange python]

ah okay probably shouldve saved me the early access money then lmao, how does assassination play? I've been curious about it but tracking the bleeds seems a bit much

[balmy condor]

it's a dot class

tracking bleeds is the core of the spec

[strange python]

Does it allign well though within the rotation, or do you have to actively track them

[balmy condor]

idk how to answer that

they are the rotation

[quaint flare]

it aligns with the rotation, and you have to actively track them

[balmy condor]

you track them because casting them is the rotation of the spec

they don't fit into anything

[strange python]

my friend played sin back in the day and he said it wasn't too bad to play, is it the easiest spec or are they mostly equal

[balmy condor]

depends on whats easy to you

most people think the basics are pretty straight forward

[strange python]

it might be hard for the game to drag me away from outlaw, I fucking loved the between the eyes spam

i noticed while playing a bit that it didn't work anymore though

[runic hinge]

Maybe you should play outlaw if you love it

Game is about having fun

[strange python]

yeah im just checking cause i dont know much about this spec either

[cold remnant]

Assassin is getting harder for me the higher level I get

But it's my first character

[strange python]

i'll fuck around with the new stuff tomorrow and then decide what to play, pretty exciting stuff

[wide ferry]

Whysper im on wowhead, i think you may have mixed up the bleed build and the cleave build judging by the descriptions. The bleed says you take zoldyck and art precison but that looks like the export of the cleave build. Unless i am mistaken

[light harbor]

Hey guys, new to assa, just trying to get the basic understanding of the playstyle. In aoe situations, do you manually switch targets to spread debuffs to All mobs?

[balmy condor]

not necessarily, but you do want to spread enough to cap on scent of blood and have energy for your rotation

so mostly rupture spreading

garrote doesn't necessarily need to be spread

[fervent rune]

why do I sometimes auto attack before my ambush cast? I can be spamming it and it will still miss my mark

[balmy condor]

no energy maybe?

[light harbor]

Perfect thanks. Also sounds like the spec has a "main target" to focus on in Aoe situations?

[balmy condor]

caustic spatter/deathstalker yeah

[fading wigeon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[desert vault]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[tall cradle]

what stats we go for ?

[silk bane]

do you have a start auto attack macro in there?

[pastel pine]

is Deathstalker's Mark bugged?

[south lava]

do u guys have weakaura for deathstalker mark

[balmy condor]

depends what way

[brave blaze]

for the recommended build for leveling and delves you dont put a point into blindside. does that mean we are opening with ambush to apply deathstalkers mark or are we just ignoring it?

[cerulean nest]

at what point should I break s4 4set?

is the 548 normal dungeon gear good enough?

[heavy elk]

The Best Builds section of the Wowhead guide has the same talent build for the M+ Bleed build and M+ Hybrid build

[balmy condor]

Killing myself thanks

I’ll fix it when I get home

[balmy condor]

Blindside doesn’t apply deathstalkers mark anyway

[shadow grove]

hey can anyone please explain what poisons we use for what?

[balmy condor]

Always deadly, amp if you’re talented into it

On the class tree you talent into either atrophic or numbing, so you’d take that

[shadow grove]

thank you good sir

[balmy condor]

No

You just play the capstone

[brave blaze]

ahhh ok im starting to see how this works. that does mean you open with ambush then right?

[balmy condor]

Yes

You apply it once with ambush

And then the capstone keeps the cycle going forever

[brave blaze]

ok cool thanks sorry about that, didnt really know how it worked

[balmy condor]

No problem

It’s new after all

[cerulean nest]

@balmy condor help dad

[balmy condor]

When it sims higher to break it man idk

[cerulean nest]

that’s fair and valid

[balmy condor]

Depends on a lot of stuff

Like I’m assuming you wouldn’t break it for just 1 piece

But I can see dropping the 4 set if you have 2 high ilvl pieces

But even then it depends what slots

Cause slots have different stat values

So ilvl matters more on chest than like hands

[cerulean nest]

yeah just feels dumb simming normal dungeon gear lol

but i’ll see

[balmy condor]

Probably would sim heroic gear

I wouldn’t bother with normal

Don’t think it’s enough

[cold remnant]

Finally hit 40 with my assassin. Enjoying it . Just the bleed math is getting tough

[balmy condor]

Bleed math should just be as many improved garrotes as targets, up to 5 ruptures, Crimson tempest with 3 or more targets

[keen spruce]

Is everyone having fun with the new expansion

Are we dooming or cooming?

and by we i mean you guys

[balmy condor]

It’s been aight

[runic hinge]

I’m still at work

[crude cipher]

new to rogue entirely and looking to play assassination in TWW, the one thing im having issues with is trying to figure out what poisons to use for what scenerios.... can anyone give me like a real generic idea of what should be used for M+/Raid/PVP

[pastel pine]

When I ambush from stealth it is not applying deathmark at all

[flat olive]

how do i remain in stealth after casting garrote?

[pastel pine]

nevermind...I am an idiot, figured it out

[novel arrow]

Hmmmm. It seems Echoing Reprimand Anima point finishers isn't consuming deathmark

[slate crown]

Yes.

It's bugged (as far as we know)

[feral mason]

Isnt it just darkest night that it isnt consuming?

[narrow heart]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[woven birch]

Possible dumb question. Is Bubbling Wax worth it for Assassin?

[long island]

wsg

is there any wa that tells if i have garrote/rupture on the entire pack

or at least if it tells how many enemies i have it applied to

ik rupture can be read bc of the buff

[raven night]

multi target trigger

and auto clone

then match count for the display

also own only

[raven night]

https://wago.io/Ac5_S1ruq

very basic and ugly but thats how in short

[willow vine]

didn't think i'd have fun with deathstalker

lowkey a vibe minus the bugs lol

[odd flare]

what poison you guys using tto level

[lusty narwhal]

people breaking tier once its high enough illv?

[raven night]

actually here this should do it without looking like shit https://wago.io/7sssF6SLx

[willow vine]

im running a variation of the bleed m+ build with deadly and amp

[strange python]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[desert cove]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[raw tusk]

is dungeonslice still not great to sim by?

[grim jay]

Its the go to sim for gearing since ages

[desert cove]

does anyone have a WA that tracks deathstalker mark stacks

[plain flower]

assa leveling talents ?

[desert cove]

I'm having a really hard time keeping track of when I consume it

[grim jay]

Whatever m+ build you like

[grim jay]

One of the packs should have one

[desert cove]

I'll try whispyr's then

[uneven plume]

i got a bunch of 550 gear

do i replace tier set?

😮

[grim jay]

Doubt but it doesnt matter either way

[raw tusk]

Thought it was wonky for outlaw a while back but makes sense

[grim jay]

Its wonky in general but the best tool available for that

[raw tusk]

ahh okay

[tropic fox]

whats the prefered hero talent tree for m+?

[grim jay]

Yes

Tuning isnt done and they arent far apart

[tropic fox]

okay thank you

[grim jay]

Most people on beta used deathstalker tho, but just do what you prefer for now

[floral vale]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[raven egret]

EZ

[raw tusk]

Yeah leveling wasnt bad this xpac

[raven egret]

just realized as well that maxxing one give XP boost to alts too

forgot that was a thing

[raw tusk]

yeah i think its up to like 20% or something

[ocean wasp]

just normal dungeon + quest?

[royal python]

I saw your YouTube video, didn't understand this bit - how does the mark get applied on a fresh target without vanish if current Target dies

[raw tusk]

i did like half the campaign and dungeoned with a tank buddy. took about 6ish hours?

dungeon is definitely the fastest if you have a tank/healer queiing

[silk bane]

if you have mark on a target, and it dies, you automaticlly get the darkest night buff (capstone of deathstalker), which means if you envenom a target with maximum combo points, it will apply 3 stacks of mark ot that target

[ocean wasp]

i had a healer friend lvled together last expansion, cant rmb how long it took us to max level but def not 6ish hours

seems like lvling in this expension is much faster

[royal python]

Ok thanks

[willow vine]

Are you cooked if you don’t have darkest night and a chain pull happens without vanish/ meld stealth?

[silk bane]

how would u not have darkest night?

unless you somehow severly fucked up u should have it

[raw tusk]

i would randomly have mine not reapply

[willow vine]

Same ^

[silk bane]

never had that happen. probably didnt do max cp or something idk

[velvet ridge]

Man I keep forgetting I need to ambush out of stealth. I've used the mark on like 3 mobs total

[raw tusk]

I also got locked in a delve for 10 min and couldnt log into my character because "someone with that name exist" so idk lol

[willow vine]

Yeah I probably fucked something up

Tanks were pulling half the dungeon at a time when I was trying it out lool

Hard to track

[raven egret]

mostly just questing, very few dungeons

[balmy condor]

you don't get darkest night if you kill the target with the envenom that applies it, cause aura events occur after damage events in the combat log

that's been an issue while questing

[silk bane]

I can see that. explains it then

[royal python]

I think this scenario will only arise if you didn't ambush from stealth on the original pull

[stable coral]

quick, what hero talents do we want while leveling?

[desert cove]

whispyr when do you think you're gonna be able to add a deathstalker debuff tracker to your WA version

[grim jay]

Df was like 8 or something

[desert cove]

I like using it, but I really want one

counting to 3 is hard

[grim jay]

Just download lisonnas group

And pull the mark tracker out of it

Then put it into your wa group

[desert cove]

small problem

I don't know how

Q_Q

[grim jay]

/wa, click on the group, click on the mark tracker and copy that part of the WA with rightclick in the /wa window

Im not home so I cant really help you much with that

[slow crystal]

hey guys whats everyone running for hero talents whilst leveling?

[desert cove]

dealer's choice really

I pref deathstalker

b/c you can chain darkest night

[slow crystal]

still have to ambush to be worth tho?

[desert cove]

darkest night is when you kill a marked enemy or consume all stacks your next max combo point envenom auto crits and marks

[grim jay]

Any m+ build

With fatebound

Is probably what most use

[keen viper]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[main oriole]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[grim jay]

I could probably send you one in like 7 hours

[rotund oak]

@royal lantern my horde rogue is yes and im 75 on my alliance

and im doing my druid after

[candid hull]

Looks like poison bomb is back

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[desert cove]

I'm kinda vibing with lisonndra's anyways, but I appreciate it ❤️

[grim jay]

She has pretty good WAs in general aswell

Definitely cant go wrong with any of the ones posted in here

[grim jay]

The tenacity

[rotund oak]

yeah im powering through,im chilling a bit now

waaay too much zooming

was total chaos at launch

[grim jay]

I dont think I can get myself to level all 4 this weekend

Ill probably go with 2

And the others over the next few weeks

[rotund oak]

u can lvl 2 characters in 10 hours

ez

just run down the campaign and do the sidequests last region

[keen viper]

will there be updates for Wa ?

[rotund oak]

or run back and do ur world quest gold ones

[grim jay]

Wouldnt queuing dungeons be faster on tank/heal capable chars?

[rotund oak]

no

questing is always faster

or powerfarming

[grim jay]

Whats powerfarming

[rotund oak]

able to aoe big quantities fast

[grim jay]

Oh alright

Are there spots?

[rotund oak]

sub can cleave up to 7

yeah there are

but there are so many ppl now its not rly efficient,u need a party for that

the safest way to fast xp is doing campaign and go for the ''30k'' xp world quests located on the map

the ones u do once and open the sidequests

its like doing 3 quests together by spending less than half the time

[grim jay]

Sounds a bit like leveling in wod

[shadow badger]

is there a update to whispyrs plater yet

[grim jay]

What do you wish for in an update tho

If you just wanna track another debuff you might aswell just add it to the list

[shadow badger]

nothin i was just wondering if i had to update it or not

[balmy condor]

updates for the plater and the wa will come in maybe an hour or two

fixing some stuff I noticed during leveling

[grim jay]

Until then it should work just fine ig?

Updating always is better, but the profile itself shouldnt break much, atleast never did for me, small fixes anyone can do aside

[balmy condor]

yeah the profile works fine

just doesn't have specific stuff

I keep flipping back and worth whether I want to track fatebound coins

on the one hand it's entirely not needed

but on the other

if I don't include a coin tracker

fatebound feels like nothing

[grim jay]

Id probably just slap it on

In the same place as the mark tracker

So its rather equalized, people can still disable it

[balmy condor]

yeah but I also don't want to feed the "I have bad coins"

[grim jay]

I literally had that in mind aswell, but honestly, people worrying about that will get a tracker somewhere else anyways

And you will hear "duh why no coin tracker"

[balmy condor]

yeah

[royal lantern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[royal lantern]

oh lol

just read the "updates come in a hour" thing

[royal lantern]

im doing every side quest

look how clean the map looks

[grim jay]

Are you suicidal

[royal lantern]

lvl 75 and im at sstep2 of the main story in the first zone

[balmy condor]

I rushed the campaign

and now am going back

[rotund oak]

u are losing time coz u gonna do anything anyway

[balmy condor]

campaign alone gets you a bit into 76

[rotund oak]

its wiser to do sidequests w/o ppl that are doing them with u

[royal lantern]

......what

[grim jay]

I found a harldan video, ill just follow that later

Took him slightly more than 4h for lv 80

[rotund oak]

u lose time on respawns

dont what me

ive tested it

😛

[royal lantern]

cool, i gues

[grim jay]

Tryan is a leveling and questing enjoyer

[tropic fox]

If im not running double shiv should i use it at the beginning of kingsbane or towards the end?

[true rapids]

anyone find any good rares that drop 570 stuff?

[rotund oak]

if u rush ur campaign u will be phased for ppl that havent done it yet

hence less ppl to kill mobs/do side quests with u

which means less time waiting

everyone does the campaign

[torn current]

on aoe do you use mutliate for splatter or only FoK?

[grim jay]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

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[rotund oak]

it doesnt matter,u wont wait for any campaign quest

[grim jay]

How many people are there overall atm? Like I have no idea if many bought the big edition

Really populated or still fair?

[rotund oak]

yday i did campaign on my horde toon with like 200ppl at least

it was very messy,and i did only campaign and the world quests after i was done

very chaotic

but the launch was smooth ngl

[balmy condor]

towards the end

[tropic fox]

thank you

[balmy condor]

doesn't the whole world scale up to 570 eventually

[fervent rune]

no I dont

[balmy condor]

it's not specific rares

it's just gear scaling

[grim jay]

Sounds like its not much different from regular release on an encounter basis, but less server strain overall

[rotund oak]

yeah the launch started at like 11:56 with a mass flood of ppl,was crazy but servers were just fine

[true rapids]

It must be rng then I have gotten 545s from most rares and some of my guildies have gotten 577

[grim jay]

Yeah said it right as they announced EA, its literally good for both with and without EA

Unless you will have the WM people at 80 running around and annoying the regular release crowd

Which might be a thing because no content anyways

[runic hinge]

might be me

[balmy condor]

no it's just your gear score

world quest rewards scale according to your character

that includes rares

my world quests right now are 525

[true rapids]

I'll have to ask I cant imagine as a fresh 80 they were much higher ilvl than me 551 rn and they had this drop

[royal lantern]

bruh

do we HAVE to do shity AI dungeons for the story

lol

[balmy condor]

just the first one

[runic hinge]

just the 1 i heard

[true rapids]

It might have been one of these actually not a rare

[grim jay]

They are the best gearing source in a later week

[royal lantern]

OH NO

THE GIGA IMPORTANT PRE-SEASON GEARING

dae farming DF rares???????????????? i need that +2 ilvl for M0 dungeons

[subtle tundra]

I admit I did for half a day