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ay dios mio


Grey parse into 9 month hiatus is a vibe
xd
you don't have any m+ logs
season 3 dragonflight there should be some
nope, they're all leaderboard
those are all leaderboard
alright my warband consists of rogue (all specs) feral/guardian and fire mage (maybe arcane/frost) what is my 4th warband character for TWW chat
what does that mean
hunter
am i tripping or did there used to be a channel for the uh podcast, and people would ask you questions as ideas to discuss in the podcast but it was mostly people asking which spec was the best all the time?
im not crazy right?
it's gone?
WW 
there is but I think I might've hidden it permission wise
no shot, i am torn between dk/warrior/lock but x2 caster in my warband is cringe af since i already hate casters
oh I see, I'm new to this logging stuff so I haven't actually logged anything myself. Thought there would be data as it was showing that best% stuff
that's just by key level and points
has nothing to do with your performance
ive played lock, warrior, hunter, monk dps specs and i reckon hunters best of those
fuck i was just thinking "oh i wonder if there's gonna be a new one around right after tww comes out or something huh"
max's tierlist had them as Complete beans 
I see, I'll take a look at your beginner playlist I think.
i mean as in playing them, not how they perform
i was tihnking of surv but the hero talents look lame af
nah podcast is dead
me too
Can't be worse than me
💀
who is letting this guy write guides man
Season 4 was for fun anyway
i peaked in aberrus and went "imma chill in s3"
All good
i got my rank1 on echo of nelth and said "yea im good for season3"
oh it was a ton of fun, so much fun that I didn't play it at all 
I was afraid that I might have TOO much fun

I died on pull to pet my cat

Respectable
heroic
ik its prepatch but i wouldve had my 3 99s be prob 100s if my priest wasnt cooked last raid
i was getting pi 10sec after i called it with dm with 5sec left
skrill issue
I'm about to get a 0 on the final boss of next tier
we decline people who parse whore s4 
dude same, Season 1 final boss thic on god fr fr
imma die on pull
then is goonin time
i was just vibing getting our portals, i had to get the dust off
real
alright i gotta go get some food or something, im too cooked
I'm gonna get the dust off in DELVES
LOL
ENDGAME PILLAR CONTENT
i really wanted to go feral when i saw rogue hero talents but ive spent last 4 years dedicating myself to rogue
i dont wanna go back to feral
bro just cant wait to get his lil feet claws into the warm dirt
yea
gat
thiccc
gyyaaaat
GYATTTT
I hate you all
big ass grabbers ifykyk
good thinking
😏
ever seen a thicc crab?

no change in journal unfort
we shall see 
Google Urgot
there u go lil buddy
i need to find a guild just so i can raid up to her
me seeing Queen Anuserak from behind
and see her in crab mode myself

can't spell queen anuserak without queen anus

real
damn first echo repairmand and anusrek

queen anus wreck
nah she turns around with that, im switching sides
im cooked from max's stream
gomen
moles rise up
need that twitch chatter that said I suck the energy out of the stream to give me some pointers
Mole is the only endgame that matters

twitch chatters are bad people
people is a generous term
its your language. u shoulda been more in touch with the audience. hit them with the " sin players are the rizzler, ready to mog the skibidis, sub straight ohio on god getting fanum taxed on the cps

That's why sin players get Queen Anuserak and other specs don't
what did ohio do
real af
u know what they said about the queen? she sticking out her gyaattt for the rizzlerrrrr, she so skibidiii
I'm fully convinced that big streamers have extra bot accounts from twitch chatting alongside the regular chatters so that the chat scrolls faster, and the bots just copy paste messages already sent or chatgpt summary-style post some 0 importance nonsense
she so fanum tax
POV Whispyr doesnt put u in BFD
why cant they remove echoing 
i dont mind playing it but it can def go
bring back old exsang and remove echoing
Just like here! Is there anything else I can help you with?
🚫 
take out talent point in ER, run CB and CB into Posion Knife

wait no run TTB and omega shiv dam
I'll run double vanish out of spite just so I don't have to see ER on my bar
so outlaw was in ohio with livvy dunn, but then blizzard fanum taxed adrenaline rush and totally mogged the flow of the spec, cause needing a haste breakpoint is not skibidi on god. And if you wanna play sub you gotta no cap go to cooldown academy and learn from professor spreadsheet. Shadowdust massive L rizz chat fr. Trickster on top for double L rizz cause cope de grass no cap fanum taxes a gcd, ermmm what the sigma? Assa is a slower spec so you can keep up your goon sesh during it, but in m+ it's really hard to mew and play at the same time, requires a massive gyatt brain no cap. I think overall rogue just needs a W patch with bug fixes to be in an alpha spot on god, but until then I'm not gonna give blizzard my robux, L expansion chat

sending you a voice memo right now
pls
Buying vbucks as we speak
L expansion chat
do your next youtube intro as that @balmy condor
def get the clicks 4sho
wat is is
art
I asked chatgpt to make a tierlist

i dont like this timeline

About to run shadowdust just to lower the cd between gooning sessions
I mean if chatgpt say so, it has to be true
internet dont lie
Its never been wrong before.
anyone feel like they're getting dumber
LLMs?
sorry, does anyone feel like their* getting more stupider
nope this is rock bottom
Nah, the assassination channel only contains facts and useful information.
doesnt get worse
That's a side effect of playing rogue
i see you havent been in #outlaw recently
well the only way u can go lower than rock bottom is...
if youyre a mole person
so.. opulaw = mole people confirmed?
chat clip that pls
Whispyr could I see your logs? Would be nice
The outlaw channel is the shadowy place in that one scene from The Lion King
so outlaw was in ohio with livvy dunn, but then blizzard fanum taxed adrenaline rush and totally mogged the flow of the spec, cause needing a haste breakpoint is not skibidi on god. And if you wanna play sub you gotta no cap go to cooldown academy and learn from professor spreadsheet. Shadowdust massive L rizz chat fr. Trickster on top for double L rizz cause cope de grass no cap fanum taxes a gcd, ermmm what the sigma? Assa is a slower spec so you can keep up your goon sesh during it, but in m+ it's really hard to mew and play at the same time, requires a massive gyatt brain no cap. I think overall rogue just needs a W patch with bug fixes to be in an alpha spot on god, but until then I'm not gonna give blizzard my robux, L expansion chat
so outlaw was in ohio with livvy dunn, but then blizzard fanum taxed adrenaline rush and totally mogged the flow of the spec, cause needing a haste breakpoint is not skibidi on god. And if you wanna play sub you gotta no cap go to cooldown academy and learn from professor spreadsheet. Shadowdust massive L rizz chat fr. Trickster on top for double L rizz cause cope de grass no cap fanum taxes a gcd, ermmm what the sigma? Assa is a slower spec so you can keep up your goon sesh during it, but in m+ it's really hard to mew and play at the same time, requires a massive gyatt brain no cap. I think overall rogue just needs a W patch with bug fixes to be in an alpha spot on god, but until then I'm not gonna give blizzard my robux, L expansion chat
so outlaw was in ohio with livvy dunn, but then blizzard fanum taxed adrenaline rush and totally mogged the flow of the spec, cause needing a haste breakpoint is not skibidi on god. And if you wanna play sub you gotta no cap go to cooldown academy and learn from professor spreadsheet. Shadowdust massive L rizz chat fr. Trickster on top for double L rizz cause cope de grass no cap fanum taxes a gcd, ermmm what the sigma? Assa is a slower spec so you can keep up your goon sesh during it, but in m+ it's really hard to mew and play at the same time, requires a massive gyatt brain no cap. I think overall rogue just needs a W patch with bug fixes to be in an alpha spot on god, but until then I'm not gonna give blizzard my robux, L expansion chat
so outlaw was in ohio with livvy dunn, but then blizzard fanum taxed adrenaline rush and totally mogged the flow of the spec, cause needing a haste breakpoint is not skibidi on god. And if you wanna play sub you gotta no cap go to cooldown academy and learn from professor spreadsheet. Shadowdust massive L rizz chat fr. Trickster on top for double L rizz cause cope de grass no cap fanum taxes a gcd, ermmm what the sigma? Assa is a slower spec so you can keep up your goon sesh during it, but in m+ it's really hard to mew and play at the same time, requires a massive gyatt brain no cap. I think overall rogue just needs a W patch with bug fixes to be in an alpha spot on god, but until then I'm not gonna give blizzard my robux, L expansion chat
are you not supposed to use a second tea at the end of kingsbane now?
so outlaw was in ohio with livvy dunn, but then blizzard fanum taxed adrenaline rush and totally mogged the flow of the spec, cause needing a haste breakpoint is not skibidi on god. And if you wanna play sub you gotta no cap go to cooldown academy and learn from professor spreadsheet. Shadowdust massive L rizz chat fr. Trickster on top for double L rizz cause cope de grass no cap fanum taxes a gcd, ermmm what the sigma? Assa is a slower spec so you can keep up your goon sesh during it, but in m+ it's really hard to mew and play at the same time, requires a massive gyatt brain no cap. I think overall rogue just needs a W patch with bug fixes to be in an alpha spot on god, but until then I'm not gonna give blizzard my robux, L expansion chat
use tea togheter with shiv if it doesnt cause you to waste energy
oh and
so outlaw was in ohio with livvy dunn, but then blizzard fanum taxed adrenaline rush and totally mogged the flow of the spec, cause needing a haste breakpoint is not skibidi on god. And if you wanna play sub you gotta no cap go to cooldown academy and learn from professor spreadsheet. Shadowdust massive L rizz chat fr. Trickster on top for double L rizz cause cope de grass no cap fanum taxes a gcd, ermmm what the sigma? Assa is a slower spec so you can keep up your goon sesh during it, but in m+ it's really hard to mew and play at the same time, requires a massive gyatt brain no cap. I think overall rogue just needs a W patch with bug fixes to be in an alpha spot on god, but until then I'm not gonna give blizzard my robux, L expansion chat
hmm, now that you mention it ....
so outlaw was in ohio with livvy dunn, but then blizzard fanum taxed adrenaline rush and totally mogged the flow of the spec, cause needing a haste breakpoint is not skibidi on god. And if you wanna play sub you gotta no cap go to cooldown academy and learn from professor spreadsheet. Shadowdust massive L rizz chat fr. Trickster on top for double L rizz cause cope de grass no cap fanum taxes a gcd, ermmm what the sigma? Assa is a slower spec so you can keep up your goon sesh during it, but in m+ it's really hard to mew and play at the same time, requires a massive gyatt brain no cap. I think overall rogue just needs a W patch with bug fixes to be in an alpha spot on god, but until then I'm not gonna give blizzard my robux, L expansion chat
@blazing jewel

yo just double checking if you're playing 1 shiv when do you send it in relation to other cooldownss? When kingsbane is 8 seconds away from final ticking?
you cast it on that second shiv in the image
ok gotcha. and that second shiv in the image roughly translates to final 6-8 seconds of kingsbane? I dont mean to be obtuse or anything I'm just trying to learn pressing the 1 shiv there without just simply maintaining the shiv buff from the first shiv
Where's this pic from
for your leak @balmy condor

nice
trying to understand the pooling a little more for fatebound, says that want to stay around 70% energy so outside of cds are we just slow playing and just trying to keep up envenom and maintain dots
it's either or
but it semi contradicts the sanguine statements of wanting to be around 40%
you don't try to stay around 70% energy
it's either keep up envenom, and if you can't, then you go back up to 70%
and start again
it's like a yes/no check right, so the first check is
"is envenom about to expire", if yes you hit it, if no you try the second one
"are you above 70%", if yes you hit it, if no you wait
the 40% is the base rule
right
and that then gets augmented depending on hero talent
fatebound cares a little less for the envenoms
so it gets a bit more sanguine value, goes to 70
deathstalker really wants more envenoms, so it stays under
if it's playing vicious it goes ESPECIALLY under
okay, yeah, taking my brain a little bit to comprehend after playing hunter and shadow priest for past 6 months
it's pretty min max altogether
when in doubt, stay under 50 and slam envenoms
and you're good to go
I just have to yap like crazy because people will read sim logic and get confused and ask what the optimal play is and all that
So i don't have to think? I just press envenom whenever i can? 😮

pretty much yeah
I'm afraid to say it was me
and I did make good on my word with the armin voice memo
this needs to go in public
gyaat brain
we need more hawk tuah stuff
whispyr if im fucking around on beta, what trinkets should i be practicing with?
guides are due tomorrow (they're not remotely close to finished I'm losing it)
i'm gonna be goin all outlaw sinster strike on my ops in tww
do you want the cringe answer or the non-cringe answer
idc
okay well you're in luck cause they're both cringe
for your on use you're wanting transmitter, which is basically if satan designed a trinket
the alternative that's better depending on build is skardyn's, that's not on a vendor so go farm grim batol 
and then for passive you can play like 35 different trinkets and they all suck
is the transmitter just cringe because you just have to move to get whatever the buff is?
This season about to be goated fr
I do miss college

Why sad LE
you press it and have to do a random minigame, there's 3 minigames
- play tag with an orb
- run to a spot somewhere
- jump 3 times
when you finish the mini game you get the buff
I miss college too
ive trained for this with kyrian and the maiden trinket in tomb
it's much worse
the orb runs away from you
and the run to spot is like
in buttfuck nowhere land
Branch's challenge was overstated because the orbs did chase you, they wanted you
This sounds a million times worse
yeah, the run too spot you have like be there for a gcd before the buff applies, thats going to suck
It sims as bis in like 75% of profiles/situations but I'm not putting it higher than like B tier on my trinket list
it's actually not playable
like if people refused to play branch en masse during season 3
this is like 15x worse
and that's coming from mr. branch himself
I am branch enjoyer
I fought for that trinket
transmitter is undefendable
After whispyr’s uh. Statement. I’m able to return to college and be a hip guy again (I played wow in college too)
it's like OJ saying if the glove doesn't fit you must acquit, and then he puts on the glove and it fits perfectly
that's the level of undefendable we're talkin bout
That wasn't OJ saying it it was his lawyer
Wait this happened tho
And the mf was acquitted
shit
This man can’t keep up with a kardashian
Even if it was a dead one
(I don’t know if it was Robert, that was before my time)
bruce?

Their father who died in 2003, was one of oj’s defense attornies
calling you slim shady the way you diss-trackin me
no bars to speak of but like arbys you gots the meat
Are you going to mention OJ in your trinket blurb?
Think it’s pronounced the shmeat
yeah, explanation spoiler for treacherous transmitter:
"this is literally OJ simpson"
Can you two just kiss?
Jealousy is a disease get well soon xoxo
am i doing assassination rogue correctly guys?
no, going to need another 4 seasons and a misunderstanding to create tension in a love triangle
Yes
And then bond over the death of a loved one
Ur telling me I have to play this game for another xpac to share my feelings
That's usually how it goes I think
Sucks
you retired and then logged in the next day I'm not telling you anything you just can't resist
Media taught me having family die gets people horny

Wasn’t even the next day
It was that night
This man quit for like 2 months
Because a friend wanted to hang out
are you the friend
Couldn't you have hung out in another game?
Nah some Canadian lass.
Known her for like? 8 years?
One that you didn't quit?
couldn't you have hung out by doing something fun
Our mutual games are like this and smite.
And I quit smite 
Nah it’s fine. Having fun bring a casual
"my Canadian friend (she's totally real) wanted us to hang out by the dark parking lot after buying gas station sushi"
Hyper casual
Ur so real for that
time to develop alcoholism and grind league soloq
Not in a million years
When do you do step 2?
ill circle back in a million and one years
Oh ok ty
Man sends me a lot of league tiktoks
Also haven’t checked in like 5 days
And I’m horrified at the number
o.o
pookie is ruining our streak
Ik been a weird week sorry homie
"time to grind MapleStory instead". Also, I'm surprised my phone has an autocorrect for that that capitalizes that properly
cause she's afk too
I leveled yesterday, very happy

jk I haven't played league since april, I'm clean
What's "happy"???
being able to breathe
Honestly I expected worse
ever heard of it?
dm me the girl
26 tiktoks
very real
need her
LMAO
Pretty sure you can't willingly stop yourself from breathing
idk you seem to be trying pretty hard though mr asthma
Eventually you do it whether you want to or not
I don't have breathing issues though, just the perma cough
are you saying a cough isn't a breathing issue
What's the reason for holding shiv until final 8 seconds of kb?
highest damage of kb
ah ok
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Is this how u say it this time around

1M overall in pre-patch and i'm worried Blizzard may nerf assa during heroic week 
Also wtf is wrong with Details 
what level key
they wont nerf it, I highly doubt it
16 AA
Solid, aug + shaman makes for a wonderful life as a assassin rogue 😛
Hopefully. S3 and S4 assa pumps
i mean level 70 prepatch keys are meaningless with numbers in regards to S1 TWW
judging from preptach 
bruh
hope u are joking
why aug+shammy?
ye the hope thing was a projection i never hope,im free
but dont assume anything based on ur personal dps from prepatch
to project into heroic-tuning type of thing

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did everyone become assassination mains because of the buff
didnt see this many assassinations a month ago
At what target count do we start using Crimson Tempest?
i think 4
3+ as I know
hey guys, do we still use Shiv ?
If im talented into crimson temp should i use it on st fights like bosses?
no
ofc. shiv + kb at least
also AP (arterial precision) talent is about shiv usage
thanks a lot
Is it hard to master assa and keep an eye on everything as a new assa player?
that highly depends on your skill and player exp.
and actively try to practice it
yep way too hard just go outlaw

What did you play before?
Played outlaw in s3 and got to 3.4k, never touched assa before
You only m+?
I don't want assa to become mainstream man. We need to build a wall 
assa is the easiest spec
I would rather have nightstalker back to push the normies out
dont take the bait
He’s right
Assa is the easiest
Not even controversial opinion
Outlaw is debatable, for some people it just clicks
I don't go near outlaw. My brain cant handle the ADHD playstyle. 😦
But I think all in all, assa is very clearly the recommendation for easy rogue spec
I think assa, was pretty easy in raid, but i found it a lot harder in m+ than for example sub.
Not sure now after all the hero talents but atleast thats how it used to be.
Mythic+ I think requires a bit of skill yeah
But a lot of people are just generally close minded about it I find
Like there’s this view that the aoe rotation needs to be some storm->powder thing on loop
“When you have 3 targets you press divine storm on cooldown” or whatever
Hard set very easy “press this button all the time”
And if you’re stuck with that view of aoe
Assa will be insanely hard
I just found it hard to juggle so many bleeds while keeping spatter up etc
Prob just a skill issue but just comparing it to sub, it just felt like it was so much easier getting value from sub in keys for a long time.
nah more like
"difficulty" talk is bait 90% of the time
But "difficulty" is extremly subjective. 😄
i was answering the outlaw guy who wanted to try sin
I wonder, in the HC patch if they would consider adding deathmark to garrote so you don't have to open up with ambush in m+. From what i understand you still need to ambush even on pull in a big pack, just to get it going.
tbf it helped sub that sub actually WAS really braindead for a longer time in m+ and only kinda recently got some nuance back
"storm->blackpowder, use secret tech on cd" was legit how you could play it for DF S1/S2
meanwhile assa is a spec many people love to vastly overthink in m+ tbh
sub is still that but with flag + blades now
"keep bleeds on important targets that dont die in 6 seconds, and then ST 1 guy and cleave trought spatter" is the majority of your gameplay for aoe situations
^ that
too many people think dots = you want to manually tab target dot every single thing in existance
if i remember correctly there was like a cap on how many dots you should have up aswell
been awhile since i played so yeh ;X
basically when you have endless energy, you have enough ruptures out
If you run the talent that gives you % agi for ruptures, I find that to be a pretty reliable tell on when to stop rupturing
Scent of blood (?)
Yea only m+
ye, "you have endless energy" and "scent is at max stacks" are pretty close together
On random packs in m+ how important is to keep bleeds on multiple targets all the time? Also lets say there is 8mob pack, on how many would you keep your bleeds?
^
just scroll up a bit 😄
dont even need to scroll on my screen
Yeah I still cant really tell as I havent played it and dont have a feel to it, but what would you take as a main guide to tell you when you have enough bleeds on multiple targets?
When you start getting energy capped every second then you have enough bleeds i guess
😄
allright, the "rule" is like
when you have IC, you automatically spread bleeds wide by default, the IC bleed spread is always enough by itself
when those bleeds run out or you didnt had IC, you should aim for putting rupture on targets that dont instantly die to the point where your energy usage is saturated, aka you dont drop energy anymore
Alright man that sounds reasonable. Guess I need to put some play time into it, thanks for the replies🙂
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!dagger
Sin is the best spec in beta rn?
do we know how much % dps of our tier set contributed to our overall?
yes, but tuning is far from over and can change at any time
an absolutely earth shattering 2%
Are all the specs similar at least in damage?
I think sub is ahead in single target a bit
but assassination is huge in aoe currently
I saw some people like Petko rate Assa really high in ST as well. But I just cant wrap my head around that. ST seems lackluster compared to mage or WW when on M+ build :/
outlaw ass?
yeah the single target is just fine, even in raids. It's not really a talent issue so much as it's just lopsided tuning imo
it's fine but if you talk to any outlaw rogue you'd get hit with a bible of how unplayable the spec is without acro and how punished they are for needing haste now to reach their adrenaline rush breakpoint
imagine the cataclysm if it would give 3% 
it's not in contention for biggus dickus damage but it's far less doom than the rhetoric would make it seem
Yeah thats one of the reasons I dont want to play it, which spec do you recommend for raid at the moment before any other tuning happens?
either assassination or sub
....the spec you like to play?
outlaw always tends to be a bit weird in raids cus of how its dmg pattern works
aka it has no real burst
Outlaws fine and still the most fun and smooth to play imo
but like, that stuff matters far less then most people act it does most of the tiem
we can argure about the fun and smooth part

most reasonable yellow name I've seen in months
This opinion is extremely varied right now
but ye, in the end its mostly just opinions anyway
the only thing i hate about outlaw atm
outlaw fun lol!
people jerk waaaaay to hard about numbers
is how rng it is with your crackshot windows
sometimes ill get like 6 in a row
or ill get 0 ace procs in 5 vanishs/dance
how does outlaw DPS with SBWE without shadowdance now? As it goes on CD
Vanish is effected by subterfuge and we get 2 stacks.
It's actually better than with dance
hmmmm did they buff subterfuge?
we get some FAT ambushes
Increased it's duration I think to 6 to match dance
But dance was never effected by restless blades, vanish is. Whichnis why 2 stacks of vanish actually gives us more windows than 1 vanish and 1 dance
im assuming we use fatebound?
Deathstalker generally
Fatebound isn’t bad at all, but it is easier to play and comes with some downsides because of it when compared to deathstalker
Tuning wise deathstalker is also ahead by 2-4% percent depending on situation
That being said though there’s also a bunch of bugs that are kinda muddying the water
Echoing reprimand not working with deathstalker marks
The deathstalker capstone bug where a generator will eat a stack of the mark instantly
The anima charged cps?
Fatebound flips not working after edge case is strange too in the grander scheme of our cooldown sequence on pull
Just a lot of strange stuff
Yes
I assume they just dnt consume the marks or do they consume them but not increase the finisher by 5cps?
The animacharged cp work fine
They just don’t interact with the marks at all
Neither the capstone nor the debuff
At least we can still use the marks and they dnt get consumed and wasted I guess.
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Did they fix the garrote positive bug?
That’s not a good thing
Yes they fixed the subterfuge bug
No but its better than not getting to use the marks at all and er being unusable
I guess the spec looks fine even without that in m+
Well considering that subterfuge wasn’t good even with the bug, I’d say the spec is fine without that yes
Even with the bug subterfuge was nearly -3%
Oh lol
I’m hyped for tww, too bad I go back to work tomorrow
Can’t stay there nerding 24/7
much change in the rotation?
no
did echoing reprimand combo point wa's break for anyone else recently?
everything. we spam ruptures now instead of envenom (this is purely satire)
Oh we don't spam crimson tempest anymore :(
HUH
What do you mean “anymore”
When did we do that
Nope
I'm kidding lad chill
when there was a bleed build with expidient stack
man i miss that bleed build
and i miss all that haste
You never know man people are crazy out here
!rotation
!guide
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are they updated yet whispyr
They’re updated for prepatch yes
meant for tww but ig thats kinda a dumb question
Tww guides go up with the early access or the night before
many people did that at the start of BfA,
i remember quite some surprised pikachu faces in this discord when explaining why you shouldn't.
but bfa is quite a while ago
ahh yes pikatchu faces
🧓
fuu is the master at the english language
on the kingsbane window, we finish with evenom at 5+ or 7?
its a meme, i assumed most people know it
Always 5 regardless of any window
ok, thx

When pooling do you often not press anything? It feels so odd to just be auto attacking in ST.
yeah we just chill
Like... Really?
Yeah
thats quite literally what pooling means ye
can just play vicious venoms and not pool ye
What is the dps loss ?
idk current numbers but for deathstalker in tww it might even be slightly better
on ST
Pooling is great opportunity to take sip from your drink of choice.
Alright I will sim it then thanks
Coming from outlaw it feels weird tbf
Yeah true
I honestly don't like pooling to much 😭 Sure it gives a bit more skill expression but i rather just smash envenom whenever i have combo points for it 😄
me smash button, me do damgur
you're not meant to spam mutilate by default and pool?
you should start pooling on 5+ cps
mutilate to 5+ and then chill until you have like 80% of your energy
so in tww is our talents the same or do we get extra talents to spend compared to now?
or are hero talents the only thing u spend more from different to now?
Just get her talents
yes
Hello guys, are you using a macro for your ghost strike ?
arf my game is not in english
Right now it is yeah ;c
ghostly strike ? ahha
This is the assassination channel
Yes macro it to your pistol shot 🙂
its not really a good idea tho
true, I did it cause I never pushed high keys and I was lazy lol
in theory they don't want to macro it to anything because you can G.strike a dying mob and you just wasted it
oh yea theres that too.
don't macro it 😄
speaking of doing something stupid, i am thinking of cleaing up my wow stuff.
and weakaura clean up lol
Nothing stupid about that. Get rid of all the old stuff and start with clean slate.
!guide
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
#assassination-faq has info
so what would i "clean" up then lol like delete the wtf folder?
i save screenshots, uninstall game and delete everything before expansion launch
leveling can be done with 0 addons and then when you reach max and be bored cuz there's nothing to do, work on UI
true
Beluar released some video about getting a better ui and cam movement that looked pretty cool for leveling atleast
ITS A TRAP
I had a dream, a dream where we were using CT in ST as well XD
I actually logged in earlier and deleted all my addons and all my weakauras other than Lis's wa. :X
Yeah I deleted all the raid packs and everything but a rogue pack wa.
How do I pin a thread so it always shows up below assassination?
Whispyr yesterday https://youtube.com/shorts/K9hbSan-Cz4?si=CEs0k28J84-PGx7G
are we good in TWW because of hero talent?
cause currently i dont feel so good
in pre patch
We're always good!
not really
a ~10-15% aura buff just tends to make everything strong lol
is aura buff effective now?
dont we have a shit ton of bugs?
Everybody does
the xpac is like 5 days away lol

aura buff is a common thing blizzard does to throw design issues unde rthe carpet but several specs suffer from bugs
sub is one of them
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
is there a reason i cant see my caustic splatter animation from mutilate?

oh wait nevermind im thinking of the poison bomb lol
why is it such a common thing for people to think poison bomb is caustic spatter
because you constantly hear about spatter and never hear about poison bomb
so they see poison aoe and think spatter
Tbh I would like a slight visual for spatter to see roughly where it’s hitting
Just like a light poison misting
Any good tips on best ways to manage or return to your primary target when spreading dots during indiscriminate carnage? I know you can funnel it to your main target, but would prefer to play optimally
I think most people are lazy and just hit their main target with everything twice tbh. otherwise maybe a focus target macro or good plater setup to help identify that target again?
think there's a few brave lads here using mouse over macros too. sounds messy but
find what works for you
Yea I was thinking of some way in plater because I’d like to save focus macro for interrupts
most that dont do the lazy way probably use a good plater setup ye
I'd assume under the plater settings you'd utilize Npc Colors/Names tab, but I'm not wisened enough with it to know for sure
5 targets or less you can just spam off main target with IC and it’s exactly the same
upon actually looking at it myself that seems to be for raids in particular so I've no clue
Also anything beyond that isn’t giving you Scent stacks and you’re probably already energy flooded so unless you’ve pulled 10 elites probably better to just get your spatter juicing anyway
We call those nightmares
Wasn’t there a time where sin used ct in st?
I remember ct on 2t
Last patch of bfa if you had more than 70% haste
way more
70% was the breakpoint
Hey guys, Is there a reason to use Fan of Knife as a single target on Tww?
coz OP was giving like some thousands of haste
ye on deathstalker i think u use fok
its inhttps://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1271649178778603541
Because of this hero talent. You only do it as deathstalker.
Ok thx !
!macro
i downloaded the new devlin bar and having trouble to get the duration of kingsbane shown at the top of it like splatter is, it seems to there normaly if i see it correctly? Normaly i just change the name to german and it works but it shows as kingsbane/königsmord + id under the load tab. Any idea how to get it?
Should ask Devin
But everything should be done through IDs to avoid localization like that
Shouldn’t need to do anything
@white lance I summon you
hail champion
Also yeah use ID, and put the ID into the Name field of auras. It will match Any aura that matches the name of that spell's ID, in all languages
(using the exact spell Id field isn't necessary most of the time, there are some edge cases where you need it but most of the time best to use the name field with an ID)
Amber looking for some assistance above with your pack
aye
are you using the bar or icon option?
i just copied it into weakauras and did not change anything. Where do i change it/see it?
if you go to custom options --> assassination you can choose how you display kingsbane
if you choose "main group" it will only be the icon
the icon next to splatter or the one below that shows the kb cd? i will try it, ty!
if you choose main group its where the kb cd is, if you choose active group its next to spatter
it worked, thanks again
ive been using spellid for as long as i can remember for this reason with localization. is it now better to go with the id in name instead?
no problem!
Using exact spell ID will resolve the issue with localization, so that's fine
but the ID in name field allows you to simply match on things that match the name so you don't have to be always correct
Like
There are 4 different spell IDs or something for Stealth
ah i see
Rather than entering all 4, you only need any of them
like override spells
ya, now i got work to do -.-
And doing ID in Name also works with localization, it's pulling the name from the client's spell data
It's not required, I left my whole pack as exact ID after learning this for awhile
but I shifted everything over when I cleaned up for TWW
is it same function on the load tab as in the triggers?
Yeah
omg
You can do the same thing in most spell name fields
cooldown works
Combat Log events with spell name also works
now my evening is booked and cooked!
doing id-in-name, that is
Then just use Exact ID checkboxes when you actually need it
I think there are a handful of cases that need it still, but most don't
I don't recall which ones off the top of my head
I think hero talents are a bit janky

So yeah need exact on some of those
oh like
Echoing reprimand, the 3 buffs you get all have the same name IIRC
so if you want to track all of them or have individual trackers per, that's a case where exact spell ID still makes sense
im joking btw
we love nerds
Do shadowmelt can work for indiscriminate carnage ?
On packs during keys, i know it does not let you exit combat during boss fights
Either staying VE or getting back NE or Human
play what you want man
i can sell you human but im not that manipulative
wait, was it friday or thursday
Night between thursday and friday
its not like its gonna work anyway
ok ye, so friday
we gonna beta test launch
still have work and stuff

blizzard doing the worst fate possible
turning us into NA beta testers
yeah man,i have to beta test for guy and whispyr and idk
(the bait has been laid)
but ye jokes aside ive got no hopes of actually logging in the 23rd and lvling
there is just no way
I know how good racials are for human ^^
ik,it was a reverse psychology thing^^
TBH as long as i have alternative to play Dwarf or Tauren, i am happy
those two are too ugly even for min maxing XD
mate, again
ild normally act offended but ills tand my ground
play what you want lol

In bigger packs, when do you fok and when do you mutilate?
3+ targets = you FoK and only use Mutilate to keep Spatter up on your maintarget
is the sin hidden artifact still in the dalaran sewers?
I guess so, didnt heard that they changed any of the spots for artfiacts apperances
Anyway, -> wowhead
Is there any in depth guide for assa here on discord, or somewhere else? The wowhead and icy veins guide seems to have only baseline infos
I mean, like outlaw have a faq section here on discord
Is there some for assa too?
The assassination wowhead is written by whysper here so it should be up to date.
Its ok
Pins have some info as well, but in general no
But i would like to get some min max informations
Not sure what kind of info youre looking for though, wowhead covers it at all pretty much
Like talents simulations comparison or in depth aoe rotation guide/priority list
devlin is back!!
I just glanced over the devlin group and def gonna give it a try in TWW, looks amazing
been here every expansion launch ever, wouldnt wanna miss it 🙂
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps is that not in depth enough?
The results of the comparisons are in the Beta Info threads of this channel, Whispyr details the rotation min/maxes there. If you're looking to get even more granular, you're free to dive into the APL in raidbots. Those are still being iterated upon as we haven't even hit launch yet, let alone season 1 starting, but you can get a sense of what's there now.
Ok thx boys
No problem
Tbh i didnt saw the sections at the bottom
so outlaw was in ohio with livvy dunn, but then blizzard fanum taxed adrenaline rush and totally mogged the flow of the spec, cause needing a haste breakpoint is not skibidi on god. And if you wanna play sub you gotta no cap go to cooldown academy and learn from professor spreadsheet. Shadowdust massive L rizz chat fr. Trickster on top for double L rizz cause cope de grass no cap fanum taxes a gcd, ermmm what the sigma? Assa is a slower spec so you can keep up your goon sesh during it, but in m+ it's really hard to mew and play at the same time, requires a massive gyatt brain no cap. I think overall rogue just needs a W patch with bug fixes to be in an alpha spot on god, but until then I'm not gonna give blizzard my robux, L expansion chat
lol np it happens to us all.
For M+ -- is it Daethstalker right now, or Fatebound? I've only been messing with Deathstalker
This is for Beta
Whatever you want to test
returning player from shadowlands here which buffs do i need to blacklist in my plater that are not important to track ?
im 30 man, have mercy
assa rogues don't snapshot do they?
Not anymore
Used to with dance
Besides improved garrote
It's easier to list out the things you need to track.
Really I'd just track Rupture, Garrote (exact spell IDs because they duplicate with deathmark, and you only need to see one of them), Crimson Tempest (maybe, you could just track that on target, I don't have it showing on plater) and Caustic Spatter. Potentially Iron Wire silence if you care to see that, That's all I can think of
Improved garrote is technically a snapshot. That's the only one.
Any trinkets or other noticables from m+?
Nothing else
Why would you drop a garrote after an improved?
Well, it's a damage loss, yes. You want your improved garrote to tick the full duration
Unless its an epidemic window iirc
It is a loss to overwrite it with a non-improved garrote
Nope, you let it go all the way unless you have vanish up
Even in pandemic
Just the improved garrote, yes. Every other garrote cast you can refresh in pandemic
I never really understood pandemic windows and snapshots, my feral performance is really wishy washy
!pandemic
Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs
Perhaps that will help
Does imp garrote have a different spellid
Thankfully you don't have to worry about snapshots with us, just put Improved Garrote as an exception in your mind
Nothing else we have snapshots
nope
I just try to never drop my bleeds but some mechanics ya know
Yup, keep them up.
'drop your puddle to the end of the hallways'
last night I was playing igara and did not get single spear
felt good
not that you drop that far away
I try to get back into rogue but I am a sloppy player
very average
And that's fine
Rogue is on the harder end of things, if you enjoy the gameplay keep at it
Once you and the spec click, you'll see your improvement growing rapidly
how many finisher can you do with one echo?
3
charges one combo point by default.
if you take the Resounding Clarity talent (which we do typically) it charges 2 more for a total of 3
!ui
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
Ah thanks
When you need to use exact timers typically progress bars are better, imo

Above packs all have some form of CP trackers if you want to yoink one
And they all probably show ER charges on the combo points
I know mine does
the one I have does too but incorrectly
it always seem to not display the 3rd one
wich then makes a lot of sense why my dps is as it is
Probably not
If you are missing that third one, it probably barely impacts you dps much, sure it'll be less but it's not like an enormous deal
If you got the aura from somewhere, probably should just go update it
The expansion brought some combo point/ER changes I think it shifted which ones it empowers compared to before
So that may have been missed
if you made it yourself then just be sure you're looking for the right ER buffs
(Or, you can use conditions now for a bunch of it, they created ER specific condition points)
Been out of it for 2 weeks. Seeing a lot of rogue buffs so far! Wowhead up to date for guides etc? Not trying to offend anyone, I love the guides!
I feel like for me it’s been tough memorizing notations for assa rogue but the guides make it seem so much easier
check pins?
or boy whispyr is quite reliable
If I knew how to write WA's
I could alter the one I got
is there a known bug when you stealth after getting off mount that causes you to break stealth immediately?
Yea Whispyr is awesome just wanted to see if something new was added or what’s talked. Yes I’ll check the pins, lol
Starting to see a lot of YouTube videos now, even for PvP which is nice
i just hope that no items in tww will get you out of sttealth
its something that sounds like absolute nobrainer to fix but they havent done so at all
albeit dracthyr lego or the cloak .-.
ok I fixed the ER display but I still don't get a 7th CP on display
is there an documented change that blizz did to deathstalker mark being applied even if its not ambush first out of stealth as long as its in subterfuge? Or did they just changed it without telling anyone?
I saw the filter hit glad you got it figured out
I’m 34 xd
does someone of you know why it breaks my stealth all the time in azure vault?
is your cloak by any chance a certain sarkareth one
what is a decent/good envenom uptime for single target? just messing around on st dummy im around 92%
fatebound
build
90%+ is what you normaly have
gotcha
what are peoples' opinions on the current 4 pc set bonus, prioritizing envenom clipping
I quite like it
it's nice, won't matter for long
The new talent is close and if it was a bit stronger we’d chain in the same way
Yeah, i was more asking if people like that kind of optimization
awful, im glad its gone and talent is weak
playing around envenom uptime could be cool, if it would actually be something you had pay attention too
and not this 90%+ default uptime we have since forever now lol
thanks!
what are you guys clod blooding enveoms yea?
it's really too bad we cant get Bonespike in the bleed build
in beta?
yarp
your name is misleading
If youre fatebound it doesnt matter because it can only be used on envenom anyway, and if youre not you probably shouldnt be specced into CB to begin with
But if you are, it doesnt really matter what you use it on
New talent? Did the 4p get put in the spec tree somewhere?
cool i havent had a chance to test anything at all just curious
Theres like no difference between using it for cp on mutilate and using it for envenoms
ahh cool just figuring out what would give the most gain i just macrod it into envenom for the lols









