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I love it because even if x class is on top of the thingie it generally never ever matters.

I wonder who is joining the current stream Max is doing to talk about rogue when it’s our turn. I pray it’s @balmy condor
spoiler it probably isnt
It won’t be
I pray its guy.
Damnit
Guy scares me.
I’m not home today
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
Who the heck is it going to be? Some outlaw Andy who is going to try to get Sin nerfed!?
I dont even think it matters even if they nerf sin or how bad it is
I'll still be playing sin

I sold my soul to Sub in s3 for smolderon prog. Never again
i play sin for the same reason i play afflock
I'm an affli lock enjoyer aswell
I'm contemplating that or arcane mage as my alt
I like all the stuffs you shoot as arcane 😄
i only played rogue up until Siege... and rolled a lock alt for obvious reasons
those are still the only two classes i've ever played beyond leveling
pretty sure max is going to not go over Rogue before all the others are done, and then run out of time to avoid having to talk about them 😛
Me to... but in S2 because no on want to go with a random assa 🥲
team, unfortunately i did not back up my interface properly and i need to redo it. currently looking for a certain posion reminder wa. it basically had 2 icons with a text on it to tell me if i need to put two posions each. does anyone have something similar?
like 1/2
theres some in the WA packs your looked at earlier
i looked through them but it seemed to be like when i did 1 of each, the icons already went away, so i might be missing 1 or 2 😛
i believe LE uses the icons with the 1/2
let me check, thanks!
tyty!

An Oxi blessing
how good is nick?
i still own one from s3
which is 483ilvl
but then again i got 499ilvl weapon in my inventory
499 should win
ayt ty
the ilvl dif is too big

do you get 1combo point per target hit with fan of knives?
atleast i remember this was the case, Has this been moved into a talent that i might be missing?
Per target crit
1+1 per target crit yeah
Whats the best youtube guide to learn assa and rotations, how its played now?
Your best bet is watching Whispyr videos
Where he just says what he wrote in the guide
whos going into max's stream for assa?
i just wanna know who is he calling for the rogue part of the stream
whispyr isen't even available today.
whispyr wont go
:p
is fuu around?
Jpc is mia
he'd be good
i believe fuu might be already sleeping
ye
nah i cant go up there
Armin isn't known for his timings
imagine planning who you're going to talk to beforehand
couldnt be streamers
I loathe tier lists
me too, trust me
just really wanna know who's gonna talk
@silk bane explain the trickster rotation up there 
i honestly was not going to play this xpac at all until i heard 1 of the rogue specs was popping off
okay if I go there im just gonna start fuming
EXPLAINING TRICKSTER ON STREAM TO MAX 
so if they keep the tuning for the yellow boiz good theyve made a sale
like these idiots are like wah wah wah this is passive, this is tuned low its beans
i know that sounded racist but you all know who i mean


makes me fuckign wanna kms
this is a good idea right
is ir racist if we refer to ourselves as the yellow boiz
I should explain your wa for trickster to max
It's not rly complicated
u know, i should go up therre and say, well sub rogues hero talents are private aurad thats neat
what is it now i have to find it
Such a questionable reason man
i only like playing rogue and i only like playing rogue when i can top the meters
we are all 1 patch of tuning from going from good to bad hehe
no one wants to orange parse and be 6th on the meter
He did specifically call out that he doesn't have someone for Evoker and warrior, and when he did he didn't call out rogue, which makes me think he already has someone lined up.
I don't even know our tuning, i'm still playing sin.
😄
I'm not playing in a top100 guild so honestly noone really cares what you play.
Just a cooldown tracker on Unseen Blade which attempts to account all known info about reset behavior with sectec/KS and charges for it. Can't know 100% but it's the best we can know
It would be fun to do some form of single target dps but i'm sure it will be fine.
Maybe I’m just a sucker but I enjoy hearing this stuff. I know it’s a lot of whining but I find it entertaining. Traditional tier lists suck but the way max does it at least lets people who main the class talk in some detail
The guild i'm in dosen't have a rogue anyway so i have a spot either way.

Everyone is just playing hunter cause they do big dam right now. I'm just okay being my little pokestabbystab guy.
well with that thinking you should have every class ready cause tuning is still happening and heroic tuning will be BIG
it always is
chasing fotm must be tiring
But it is a waste of time what he's doing, in theory
Because since tuning isnt final, a spec rated F right now could be A or even S in 2 patch notes
Max is just farming content
A lot of content creator makes tier lists just cause it just generates a lot of views. Thats prob the only reason.
How so? Because there will still be tuning. It doesn’t happen all the time but there are multiple example of max complaining or talking about something on stream and it ends up getting nerfed or buffed. Right or wrong it may be worth it to buy in and shoot our shot haha
well yea, he can get any info about any class instantly from this guild mates
I’m not watching this one but he’s always prefaced his tier lists by saying they’re bullshit and just for fun
Well yeah, it's just what his job is rn, he's streaming as a streamer, streamers gonna stream
Just an excuse to get a bunch of people on stream to talk about specs
secret view tech (I get it they can be entertaining and they're a good way to get to talk your thoughts through on diff things)
Plus - liquid has their own actual tier list based on math. He’s not sharing their secrets lol
Math is fake
All my homies hate math
dog they have imaginary numbers how can something be real if it's partly imaginary
But tier lists and simulationcraft rankings generally has 0 impact what is good or not. We generally see whats "good" on the last 3~ bosses in a raid. Ofcourse there are always outliers like DK back in shadowlands with their gigantic amz.
Well… I mean he’s talked about how much time they spend on target dummies etc to try and form their comp. Whatever is said in the tier list on his stream may he totally different in his opinion. He’s just doing it for entertainment
And if you're not playing in a top50~100 guild, noone really should be caring what spec your playing as long as the boss dies.
Min maxing class stacking dosen't belong even in a top500 guild.
Not to defend tier lists, but what should matter and what actually does end up matter are often different
Yeah obviously that’s true - but it’s like football - we care about what the best teams are doing even though our teams suck because the Super Bowl is fun. It’s just entertainment is all
What spec you pug as in m+ shouldn’t matter for 99% of people, but it absolutely does because everyone follows the meta of the top .1%
They're just content and conversation pieces hopefully people don't base their entire decision off something that is realistically just made for entertainment purposes
But we all know the reality is different sadly
Even if your class does 500k less dps than the top spec, your spec might still be the top dps in raids just due to other things like damage profiles or just how the fights are built.
(or because the other people in your raids aren't that great)
you damn bet. I'm sure there will be people joining ravenholdt once he talks about rogue just to ask "so rogue op?"
No, i'm talking like raw numbers from simulationcraft where a lot of people go to look to see "what the best is"
That's the most common reason
Maybe i'm just old but like, it really does not matter what class you play unless you play world first race, by the time a lot of us get to the point, gear dosen't really matter anymore. Its just we being bad holding us back 99% of the time.
Outlaw has dimmed highest in the last and still been the worst rogue spec that tier IIRC
encounter design affect encounter dps, more at 12
Damage profile matters the most. Big bursty spec on 2min cd is extremly valuebale for a lot of raid content.
ngl y'all, I know the sbs build is better numerically but without a trace feels so much better in keys on beta, also subterfuge allowing you to apply the ambush for 6 seconds is very convenient as well
I think a lot of guilds - like mine will say okay we are world 1000. But next tier we want to be world 850 or something. Instead of worrying about the correct things - like player improvement they try to find little things like comp swaps that are really not that impactful.
Having that one rogue who might be semi good on rogue but awful on mage seams like a really bad trade off just to get the right comp
ambush for 6 seconds?!
why do you want to ambush for 6 seconds?!
Agreeeeed
A lot of times a tank will gather mobs from multiple places, so you accidentally open on some mob thinking you want to apply the mark to it, but then realize after 4 seconds it should go somewhere else lol
skill issue I know but while pugging even higher keys (10-12) it's saved me a couple of times
but once that target dies you get the DN buff
99% of the time playing a spec you feel comfy in generates better results than having a player playing something hes not comfy with during prog.
and you can apply mark to another target
this is true
Sometimes you just need some specs like warlocks for gate or similar things just to make the fight easier but generally playing what you feel you play the best is the best idea both for your guild and for your own sanity.
I wish more raids would adapt that menality, unfortunally thats not how it goes.
Yeah I mean it’s probably smart to try to find one of every raid buff with a good player then the rest doesn’t matter. But even if missing a raid buff it’s probably OKAY
If your in a guild that NEEDS that 3% damage from monks and not a top50 guild then you have more things to worry about.
funfact
😄
it isnt even 5% more dmg
cus like
almost nobody does pure physical dmg
most melee dps also profit more from DH debuff


99% of the time when you get to a new encounter your dps sucks right, having the right raid buff prob wont matter cause you will just do more damage the more you do the encounter right?
Thats generally how it goes
common, its outlaw
false I play warrior
50% of your dmg is dmg effects on your gear anyway

ye, its like
arms/fury/outlaw/mm/bm who profit fully from monk
everyone else does atleast 50% magic dmg or more
monk too
(idk about survival tbh)
Bomba
I mean obviously the raid buffs matter but not having one doesn’t mean you can do the fights and still be successful. Like anything else. Having better equipment is good, but doesn’t mean it’s necessary. You can do just fine without it.
Well no one else fell for it so I guess I will….
What’s DN? 
Darkest night
Ah
By the time we get to the end boss, gear will most likley be irrelevant anyway.
LOL
can we really say monk benefits from it when they have a 100% uptime cus they apply it by themself and are balanced around it? 
You sure it isn’t deez nuts?
I wonder how many people have seen that abbreviation and been too scared to ask
Because they didn’t want to get hit
monk benefits by being brought to raid because of it

Is the rogue thing going to be a secret JPC show up and announce he is actually not retired and back for the raid? Haha

He said in outlaw like 20 minutes ago that he's just not playing this tier
Ahhhh
Jesus Penis Cock in the flesh
JPC stands for James Personal Computer

i learned 1 day ago that we maybe dont have arcane int going into tww
cus our mage stops playing
feels a bit cringe, ngl

Tbh
Int is one of the buffs that actually would probably feel bad not to have
The "J" in JPC stands for JPC
Real
JPC stand for “JPC Personal Computer”?
yes and you can keep doing it forever
Names within names
"P" stands for pvc
What does the JPC in JPC personal computer stand for then?
Maybe it stands for “JPC PC C”

probs get a mage trial a couple weeks in
The same thing
It goes on forever
Max said someone reached out to him for us
who dat
my guess is guy
Guy scares me
same
i dont like when he goes up there and just says yeah looks good ship it
then goes back on twitter and starrts posting KS videos

Thats not a rogue
We'll need therapy after this
Clearly spending too much time in OL channel

yeah just saying what he said
LOL
I’m just so curious who it’s going to be - I care more about that than what they actually say lol
A surprise it seems
SAME
xD
that's what you get with high apm class
I actually don’t even really know what we are in raid - I just know we are good in m+ or at least sin is haha
the propaganda is spreading. gotta make sure people think rogue is not that great so we dont get nerfed instantly when tewawi releases
"NOONES TALKED ABOUT RANGE YET"
YOU JUST WAIT
Bro chat is dooming rogue so much
(Not that I really care as a non outlaw)
I mean I think we have to lean into this rogue sucks storyline.
Design honestly it is still kind of poopoo but damage big ?
I'm i the only one who has no clue how good/bad rogue is? 😄 I'm just blissfully in my own world.
damage decent, dont let anybody else tell you differently
if its on top of the meters, thats just because our theorycrafting and community is better than everybody elses, so people are better informed on how to play well this early already
trust me
in Seli we trust



oof
Max secretly bringing Pikaboo on for PVE rogue
i dont think his opinions are cooked, but hes idk "too nice"? like hes so conditioned into accepting horrible things as "normal" that you can have really serious problems, and hed be like yeah looks good, im chilling send it
Was such a goat moment in rh history
man has been throwing hands so much in his career, he can use them to catch some strays, its fine
Can't speak on that, I only see his tweets flaming sub and him getting bullied by his officers on the replies 
Wasaa, Anyone has like a rotation guide video of the assa_
https://www.youtube.com/@whispyr5793 peruse this channel
huh
"reached out" in what way
We're probably next
@blazing jewel sending the sink demon
Stu is an assassin and he can talk. It’s probably him
"WOOOOOOO" [translation: ass in BFD tier]
what
is it me?
random title m+er who played ass on beta after the buffs

It’s a wowhead commenter
coldblood kingsbane still nice in pvp or is it ass
I hope this mysterious person don’t get us nerfred lol max had a way of getting things nerfed on his streams
That’s not how it works
bruh
That’s exactly how it works, blizzard watches max’s stream to balance the game
Obviously
Of course yes
That must be it.
Surely

max is a hidden wow dev in disguise

They hire an intern to open twitch.tv/maximum 24/7
and prepatch parses on 1min 30sec kills
And just write down everything
dont forget that one aswell
Specially cause max's opinion reflects all of the community.
Hes not at all in a vaccum when it comes to raiding 😮
lol
#21 

I know, it was just funny his last video he had with Morgan day they mentioned his amz nerf lol
Yeah must be max's fault 😄 its not like you stacked DK's cause they did really good damage and had the best raid utility in the game.
^
like
its not that they nerf it cus of him
they nerf it cus its too strong, and ofc it gets abused in the highest level of play if its too strong
i finished my 4th rogue im finally ready for TWW

Hiya
Its whyspy boyo
HIYA
Lol
HIYA
you tricked us 
okay Whispy - we believe in you
@balmy condor ill post my feet in this channel rn
and now you told max what he has to do 


oh my
murloc onesie pjs


never expected whispyr be a murloc irl
No the hero we deserve - but the hero we needed

remember when we could use it as a command
before the evil tyrants (server mods) took it away
I WAS PROMISED FEET
Nike blazers hello
hello it me, blazed up catman
I told you whis was gonna. Do it
I mean, he also did say he couldn't do it
HIYA IN THE CHAT

HIYA
that wasnt a hiya
HIIIIIIIYAAAAAAAAAAA
i feel scammed
HIYA
same, we need to complain about the lack of HIYA
what is he doing
Shadowdust is cringe yes
lagging kekw
no more spreadsheet spec as sub, fortunately
but the entire spec is an amalgous blob of trash 
Fuck Echoing Reprimand
Delete it 
Nowhere close to what it was for amirdrassil
If you're walking in and don't know, it is going to look insane
yeah you learn and it's fine but it's so hard to step into for a new person
100pp
but as soon as you hear "play it as a 1.5 min spec" it kinda falls into place
compared to amirdrassil
Thats not S tier

im glad i finally have a tier list to base my rerolling off though
Holy damn his chat is wild
Whispyr is fuckin yapping

top of a aint no way
twitch viewerbase needing that instant gratification
hilarious
oh is this purely power tier list
read the top category lmao

lmfao max's face
lmfao
Well it could still be a mix of feel and shit
Well
Done by whispy
LMFAO
idk his chat is pretty based
love the community hate boner for rogues lol
everyone is so mad lmao
least played class and most hated
shellshocked from level 10-19 warsong gulch circa 2004
class rep has never recovered
"what would you change about outlaw"
"i would delete it"
LMFAO
i was waiting
I feel bad for Whispyr having to do all of them
it would have been a banger quote
Whispyr has changed
?
whispyr had to call in from work to talk about 6 hero tree/spec combinations
old whispyr would have said outlaw should be dead
he is always that way when its somewhat serious lol
because nobody esle was avalaible or wanted to do it
Acrobatic strikes
Good job whispy
Zac woulda got the ily in
Whispyr ❤️
i was actually expecting whispy to say "changes for outlaw? delete it"
Whispyr
xD
He had the short end of the stick
delete coinflip with totem enhancer
Well there it is, set in stone on an objectively true and real tier list
the spec doesn't function
he did great for having to do 6 trees on 2 specs he doesn't really play
we all did
Told you Max would wait and keep rogues for last and late in the evning
I do wish that Max gave a bit more notice so there could at least be some notes
so the right information could be given
wait so fatebound buff is 10 sec duration out of combat? thats actually unplayable cause youll never have it up
15 but
thats what she said
rip restealths 
that isnt really better
I think it's funny how much the dooming has been built up
good shit whispyr, brief mentioning of all the issues with rouge as fast as you could
when it's really, really, really not bad
wtf

Yeah idk who made up this dooming narrative
Thats a CONTEXTLESS SCREENIE
yeah this one was a uh interesting one
fix the bugs, then the 1-2 design changes and we chillin, then it's just fine. not incredible mage tier but ok
putting them in a rank is a meme either way, mentioning the issues is the point
i mean ranking is just w/e
like theres litearlly no way a single one of rogue trees can be higher than void weaver
Yeah, it's a meme
Whispyr cmon
and that dude put voidweaver in beans
A bit too optimistic
he likes the abuse
he is yellow wtf
oh my
Ty whispyr for taking the time to talk about rogue 
well this fucking whisper guy didnt bring up kb being so polarizing
@balmy condor how much notice did he give you
but whatever

Thank you for your service
Amazing job buddy, you did a great talk, a lot more people now hate rogue even more, we will be played even less and we might go into TWW strong or stronger huehuehue
he dm'd me earlier today asking if I had time "later" and I'm like uh probably not
and then he didn't have anyone


u did good
sacrificial lamb for rogue
Max chat was already tired from the 10+ hours that list started, they had no patience for rogue talk
you did good for assassination
his chat also habitually licks windows
I'd be tired if I had to hear tettles put boomkin in beans even though it's one of the highest dps specs in keys rn

It just plays like wank
The 1spec guests individually got almost the same time whispyr had for the whole class so it’s wild that people were rushing it
i mean, yeha
max asking whisp how the tree feel
he says it
and the chat brainlets going "WTF BUT IT DOES GIGA DMG?????????" is ussual twitch chat max IQ stuff
yeah I'm not too concerned about twitch chatters hating me
oh no I missed tettles dooming, how sad
they are consistent at sandbagging over the years gotta respect it
blizzard is not going to look at the ranking, they are going to listen to the issues you mentioned to all 3 specs which you relayed very nice
boomkin is always in sky is falling mode no matter how much damage its doing
buddy, not to defend tettles, but who cares about numbers? this shit wasnt about numbers
it was about design and how the spec feels
twitch chatters hate me pretty regularly on max's stream but I got the mental of steel ya know, might be 20 people in chat bitching about me, but there's 15k people watching so like is what it is ya know, hate me without knowing me is cringe, L twitch
considering they all wanted zerocool to give based takes on all of them
he had like 7k on youtube aswell so was more like 22k xdd
cause whispyr mentioned nothing about numbers and tuning
It was about damage, feel, design and hero talent impact
bro, its twitch chatters
thats the biggest idiots on the planet anyway, who cares about them lol
It was a wholistic ranking, it was everything, damage included.
I do they huwt my feewings :<
wholistic 
I still love you ❤️
holeistic

Can’t be any worse than randoms coming into this channel all the time arguing with you over things that you can unequivocally prove false
i wanna say words now 
How many holes is holistic
max's reaction when whispyr came in and ripped out not wanting to get lynched was hilarious
zerocool giving takes would be so silly
made my day
Half of the chat complaining the other half asking where JPC was
lmao
get me in for sub next time
jpc stream when
get guy in for outlaw
hey listen I'm out here being wholesome yall are the ones talking about hole
oh they are much worse, because they don't even spend the effort arguing with me, they just type some rancid shit into a chatbox and then it scrolls away in 3 seconds and they feel better about themselves
They argue to feel better about themselves, I argue because I knew I was wrong 10 minutes ago
I work in retail and I don’t even have the mental for that kinda shit
We are not the same
why his face like that
is that not something I'm allowed to say
confusion
you woke him up
maybe he was scared lynched would get him demonitized
the algorithm
with rogue being last
yeah whispyr definitely killed the algorithm
something I don't think he cares too much about really
cant include that part in the video
woke him up
L Word drop
we need a offical "how unhinged are the community discord spec channels" tier list
assa automatically SSS+ tier
Fel Hammer
right
I play that shit in scrabble
It's the word lynched. While just a word normally it has that pesky history behind it
I mean calling a game design a “war crime” is probably not okay but it happens all the time
"abusive relationship"
Also like
I guess yeah
I don't know about other specs very much
But if we could magically port knowledge of the other specs that were in beans
How much "non-functional" are they compared to what we know about rogue
Yeah
the tier list is just there as a meme and to have something on screen
That's what I'm getting at, like there could easily be a spec that mirrors the state that we have here
and someone puts it in beans
hes always very clear about that, but people still take it as gospel
“Tier list” is just for engagement, the discussion is where the potential value comes from
there's been times where rogue went on near the front and I'm like idk assa in B? And then 5 hours later tettles shows up and he's like who's the dumbass that put assa in B, after everyone put their spec in random ass places
Tier lists are a meme, church. But my guild held a watch party for this
Like personally to me, and I don't speak for outlaw much sure, but rogue going into TWW is just disappointing, not a war crime, it's not unplayable, it's fine, it'll function, there are missed expectations, but it's not going to stop me playing
Numbers or design on any hero tro
tree
yeh the thing is, that's the vibe from like
I can point to specific problems each has
I decided to reroll Shadow for this tier. Now between Whispyr and the Shadow guy I'm second guessing myself lol
90% of specs
who did spriest, Publik?
I'll play it
yeah sorry bud shadow is c tier
but I won't be happy about it
But a lot of the specific hero tree glaring problems are like 2 seconds away from a solution

Yeah that was it
stuff i know is:
oracle priest is kinda shit gameplay
hunter all 3 are just REALLY fucking broing cus they all do basically the same stuff just with a different name
voidweaver is funny enough not really that great for shadow priest, and archon is strong but really boring
slayer warrior is boring as hell and has no identity (basically the same thing all 3 rogue trees have in that regard tbh)
druid trees are all mid at best
scalecommander feels weird
ah yeah he does that even when they're good lol
(And the bugs, the bugs are bad, and should be fixed, obv)
like, thats stuff i picked up from guildmates
oracle priest is shit for disc
its kinda sick for holy
you just spam heal yourself and overheal is directed to everyone
Make Coup not gcd lock
make KS not teleport you everywhere
Make lucky coin last 25 sec
let DN proc from 6+ CP
or whatever
Remove outlaw 
Someone sold their soul to keep KS around as a button this long
Like, they're not "scrap the spec and redo it"
I still have Dreadblades on my bars just bc
Bring back combat
(Not talking bugs just design, obviously there's a ton of bugs but that's a separate (and still important) discussion)
and work with ER
Does anyone actually like using ER
They should just make snd passive at this point
is there an isolated enough target dummy somewhere that my shiv-cleave wont dot something else?
I do

Yes I do, sorry to be the one to inform you.


Er would be cool if it added meaningful gameplay
It's better than sepsis at least
Oh no
I’d like ER if it worked with deathstslker
ER is fine
I would trade
for
any day but I’d rather have both
ur so real for that
I'll trade them for shadowlands flag 
only covenant ability i ever had strong feelings about was er specifically for kyrian shadowdust outlaw
otherwise idc about them, if they're there i'll press them and not really feel anything inside
maybe meme a bit
Same
I like ER more than CB, which is not exactly saying much at all
but eh
its something
I tried kyrian dust outlaw on dummies for a couple minutes and now I need wrist transplants
sane people dont
but nobody here is sane
I don't mind it terribly but I think it needs to be changed into something
I liked fleshcraft 🙃
Make it 10 cp finisher
I press it every 45s and feel nothing 
44 seconds
infinite
huge stonks
you press rupture on a boss this week and its still there next reset
Absolute Rupture
Yeah I can get behind that, I don't mind the extra ability to press, but its just such a 'meh' result and experience as it is now
I don’t mind it in ST, hate it in M+/AOE
Feels like all the class tree capstones need some love
4 point vanish 
if I had it my way I would make it so echoing reprimand is a passive and every 15 seconds or something your next envenom refunds combo points or something like that
So similar to what they did with expel harm on ww
They did a ton of changes similar to what SBS had, passived embedded through other abilities
I dont mind those generally
but like whats the point of that? is that something interesting? does that improve anyones gmaeplay experience? it either becomes something completly passive you react too, or at worst something extra you ened to track
not really though
I mean its not like we need ER to have a fun spec
Maybe for you, but I need it for me, personally
Do you need a hug? I feel like you need a hug.





thats the face I make when I have near 0 time to prepare more than just a bullet point list of topics, spit all the problems with a spec, talk about both hero talents, highlight bugs, talk about what I want to see changed, and then put it on a tier list, and do that 3x in a row, and I only get 7 minutes per spec to do so


you're expecting too much from twitch chatters
give me azor's time slot I will yap forever
Outlaws
What's DN
their brains' function on a 1s time lapse
they would hate trickster
Outlaw players aren't rogue players so they don't count

every coup proc their brain lags back 0.2s
until they eventually fall into the void of time itself
why is his face like that
I noticed the memelist has two mage specs in C 

Mage is a hero class just put all the specs at the top
I forego all my criticism towards whuspyrs rankings as they all mean jack
zerocool gigachad 11hours and still running x2 vanish
rip echo repairmand
blizzard just writes essays of changes for mage
every time
and they're always buffs
I'm ngl I didn't look at the tier list for more than like 2-3 seconds and then kinda went "half these specs are in A tier, lets put it at the bottom of average, seems close enough"
I think they got a handful of nerfs
echo's repairman 
Apparently every spec is A tier except balance druid 
im tired alright whispyr
It's totally whatever
ive been on wow and rdr2 all day swapping
i have an arcane mage in my disc rn telling me rogue s better than mage
liquid gonna win rwf nice
i cba
echo cant compete without their repair man

I wish I could live with that much cope
I stg mages are actually the worst, they always refuse to accept that they are playing the best class in the game
the Echoing Repairman is bis
dude the tier list is so funny, rogue went near the front of the stream for 10.2 and I put assa in A, and like 4 hours later tettles shows up and everyone also put their spec into A and he just goes "who the fuck put assa in A"

your repairs echo through time, nothing will break
LOL

wtf does tettles even play lol
I've never heard of him playing a rogue that's for sure
Depends, mages i play with brag about playing the vlass with a spell that has the name of the company and love beind the spoiled child
Doomkin only
if you go near the front you get kekw'd 5 hours later cause your placement makes no sense
just be tettles jr
if you go near the end you get kekw'd for conforming to whatever blob everyone else made
every mage I've ever played with are the hardest copers you'd ever meet
Should've put rogue right below balance druid for the meme
Did we have raid testing after all the rogue aura and ability buffs?
shouldve just put us in BFD tier all 6

the fuck does BFD even stand for
i was gonna do feral/bear as my main alt but i wanna learn mage but ranged is cringe
didnt read the list
Big fing damage


no wonder we werent in BFD
listen idk how cool we are with swearing so I kept it pg13
That's not Blackfathom Deeps 
I don't want to burn my 1 F bomb yet
i wanna unironically play fatebound but its just so cringe
shouldve been poision master class with vials
thank you for watching your fucking mouth
dude this was the timeline okay:
max at noon: hey you got time later for tier list chat?
me: no time today
max: 🦗
me go do my irl things, open stream and see no rogue
me at 5pm: hey did you find a rogue guy I just got to work
max: don't have a guy, can call
me: okay pullin up the laptop
max: ok
and that was all the planning that went into it
their goes your one
you can't blame me
given how messy sub sounded on the podcast thingy - should we bother learning it as a 2nd spec (might see changes soon? (???)) or just go for outlaw
hey guys i'm a returning player from BFA, and i'm struggling a lil bit with Shiv (toxic blade) and thristle tea... should i press on cd or wait for cds to align?
for not knowing what BFD is
i dont have any money for the jar
shoudlve had it on phone doing IRL stuff entire time
Just RP no country for old men and play fatebound.
it's honestly not THAT messy, I went a little hard on it, but you kinda just play it as a 1:30 class and it's fine
I just think it sucks so bad
hmm I see
its okay sin is the meta
yeh I give the analysis and then have my gf put it on the tier list

double team
metas change I like learning classes entirely
maybe twitch chat would like me more if I put the grill on the mic ya know
group gooning
can someone help me understand what I was doing wrong in this raid through logs?
thanks!
where logs
I'll goon when they remove SnD next expansion
like absolute trash dps

Anton chigurh ass lookin spec
any gooners
you're 450 ilvl 
Yes but this is from amardrassil raid
see you fellow gooners next xpac ig


lmao

whispyr got sniped

Yes, I just returned recently and I wanted to understand why I was playing so trash
that's what you get for being a nice person
shiv gotta be at the front of deathmark
What a gamer
slice and dice gotta be up before deathmark
tea b4 kb btw
not having an on-use hurts a ton
yeah the tea is wrong too but that's a minor gripe
you.... never cast vanish
No enve fir like first 2 ticks of kb?
lol
he was ahead of his time
Huge problem
XD
press buttons
In AoE when your dots run out after the stealth opener, do you manually apply to all targets or is there a way to keep them up?
you cast 2 shivs in 4:30
manual
Ouch.
imagine rogue having an automatic way to keep debuffs up
lmao
sorry but this is a real man's spec, you gotta do that shit manually
imagine removing half of the specs rotation
what if the dot spec just.... didn't have to cast dots
To be fair that was my first time playing a rouge ever xd

Yeah
yeah feels like it
you just straight up forgot that half your cds existed
not toxic or anything
that's just what happend

I thought I had put everything important on but seems I forgot some
I mean you pressed shiv in your opener
you just never pressed it after that
oh you also didn't have tier
holy

I keep looking and it just goes deeper
I remember the first times i asked advice in here for sin (it was late sanctum) whispyr never said "not toxic or anything" 
he was new!!!

Yeah couldn't have tier then since I lvl boosted the rogue right before raid almost xd
decent amount of overcapped combo points
but yeh
press cooldowns and you'd do significantly better
base rotation was kinda fine
for day 1 lil gupper, u did great 
whenever ive asked the feedback is usually something i knew i should be doing but i just suck at it and then i wanna die inside
lol
At least someone sees my effort 😭
sometimes i know the answer i just want whispyr to reassure me 
it's ok though im not the thing holding my guild back from prog so 
next time you ask for advice I'll make sure to let you know that I fully intend to crush your ego into a fine dust and snort it
But thanks alot I took notes of what you told me here
np
Do you have any video recommendations though
particularly shadowdust or just any dust?
oh boy do I
click my face and go to my profile
Plug 
It already happened multiple times, go on ive adapted

self-promo



My guy is a youtuber, so you got a rotation video on your channel?
wait this guy's in the asmongold server
mods get him
many
Any in particular I should check out
half my servers im in jsut for emotes


I have them sectioned off into categories, it's a whole mini-series
based on those logs
would look at the cooldown ones
i pay nitro for the emotes
but kinda hard to tell
cause you were new to the spec and just forgot
so maybe if you don't forget, you wouldn't need those
Could you look at my m+ also? I think I did better there
is it also from november













