assassination

[bitter trout]

[royal lantern]

from....?

[keen mantle]

Current

Situation

[royal lantern]

what Situation lol

[bitter trout]

He's just asking if all the bugs got fixed

would it be a dps gain or a loss

[balmy condor]

in m+ probably lose

[bitter trout]

@balmy condor There is also a bug with elusiveness, Evasion isn't getting the DR from it

[balmy condor]

neat

expac in 2 weeks

[bitter trout]

Can't wait

It's so ready

[royal lantern]

i mean Sure,but DAE dk mounted combat, did you think about that????

(only works in the open world)

[glacial stump]

Hurts even more now playing sin in m+ with chain pulling

[royal lantern]

[bitter trout]

False alarm, just dones't show on evasion tool tip for w/e reason now

[glacial stump]

Pls mr tank, i only have 1 vanish

[balmy condor]

neat

[grim jay]

No

Only if chainpulling bad

And if chainpulling bad

Tank bad

@rotund oak didnt know you do content

[slim hamlet]

Ehm actually 2.5 weeks so it will be fine 🤓

[grim jay]

Ackschually even more because who cares before the real content starts

Amirite? AMIRITE?

[normal mist]

!stealth

Hm

[haughty flicker]

!stealthbreak

[prisma monolith]

Stealth can break from:

• Evoker legendary buff expiring and bouncing back to the Evoker.
• Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
• Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
• Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
• Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
• Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)

[normal mist]

That's it

[grim jay]

Show that old CF how its done

[haughty flicker]

[normal mist]

Yeah show him

Dat dumbass

[grim jay]

Georgeous dumbass

[normal mist]

[candid hull]

!stealthbreak

[prisma monolith]

Stealth can break from:

• Evoker legendary buff expiring and bouncing back to the Evoker.
• Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
• Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
• Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
• Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
• Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)

[grim jay]

Who is that Misterweaver

And why does it sound so painful

[normal mist]

I'm legally blind

[grim jay]

Ayayay royal

[normal mist]

It's side effects of COVID

[grim jay]

Do you think that excuse works for the potential speeding ticket this morning?

[normal mist]

Yes

Tell them you lost your smell

So you couldn't notice your car going faster

[grim jay]

Didnt smell more gasoline being burned

Cant hear well either, so didnt notice high number on the display

[balmy condor]

I love having covid, that way I can't smell this stinky discordd

[normal mist]

I'll be honest, not being able to smell or taste is fucking with my head

[grim jay]

Only 80 Euro or something, so still fine I guess

[grim jay]

I luckily didnt have that

Could barely see for 2 days tho because I had an immense headache

[normal mist]

It's the first time I've gotten COVID too btw

[marble hemlock]

You got covid?

[haughty flicker]

ive been lucky enough not to get it despite working around it during the pandemic

[marble hemlock]

i gotta go see a pulmologist but the one in my city is on vacation for 2 weeks

[grim jay]

But we arent stinky

[marble hemlock]

next one is over an hour away but they dont even answer the phone rn

[balmy condor]

I wish

[grim jay]

Sounds familiar

But dw

If they do its still atleast like 7 months

[haughty flicker]

huge

[grim jay]

Until you can actually go there

[marble hemlock]

ye thatd be a bit weird with an acute cough

i just gotta hope i didnt develop an allergy

but if it were, id have other symptoms i suppose

[grim jay]

Wouldnt be the first time they tell someone to go to the hospital if its urgent

And cant wait half a year

[grim jay]

Sometimes allergy might even be the better version

[marble hemlock]

i was also surprised cuz

youd think when i go to the doc with a pneumonia diagnosis from 4 weeks ago, and still have issues coughing

hed check my throat

but he did not

[grim jay]

My grandma (94yo) had one and they didnt do/give her anything after she got brought to the hospital via ambulance because she could barely breath

[marble hemlock]

ye i have no breathing issues or any other symptoms, just cough

and apparently my lungs sound fine again so

who knows

i still hope it just goes away by itself

[bronze pike]

Same my aunt developed similar thing

Mucus like cough

[marble hemlock]

mines fully dry

[bronze pike]

But no other issues like trouble breathing

Becomes dry cough after nebulzing

It’s strange

[grim jay]

Try some WICK Medinait always works for me if I have anything coughing related

[bronze pike]

I think it’s allergies

[marble hemlock]

using that regularly, helps a little

but ye i think its allergies too

just the question of what

cuz it does get slightly better when im outside

[fathom minnow]

Yo guys? What are the perfect stats for m+ rn?

[bronze pike]

You could have developed a allergy to some kind of dust

[marble hemlock]

well, somewhat. its still awful

[bronze pike]

Or ants

[grim jay]

When did you clean last?

[marble hemlock]

dont have ants

[bronze pike]

For my aunt, i think it’s ants

[marble hemlock]

but ye might be dust

or something else

[fathom minnow]

Mastery > crit > haste > verse?

[marble hemlock]

hopefully not cat

[normal mist]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

[bronze pike]

Time to change the filter

[marble hemlock]

[bronze pike]

I’m allergic to my dog

I do not care

I eat allergyclear and hug dog

[royal lantern]

true love right there

🫡

[bronze pike]

She’s my rat, love her tons

[grim jay]

Peak life

[marble hemlock]

well im gonna do a full deep clean of my apartment over the next 2 weeks as well

[fathom minnow]

Sims are still broken for dungeon slice in prepatch?

[bronze pike]

Next dog will be named “squash”

Cause current dog is named pumpkin

Cucumber is next one

Various gourd names

[grim jay]

Helps sometimes. Might even be something you brought in from outside

Thats still lurking somewhere

[marble hemlock]

ye although thatd be weird

[bronze pike]

Probably ya

[marble hemlock]

considering i leave my apartment once every 2-3 weeks

[normal mist]

I believe so yes, don't worry about those for now

[marble hemlock]

will find out sooner or later what it is

doesnt keep me from sleeping at least

but i still dont know if the bacteria that caused the pneumonia is out of my system, is the problem

[crystal nymph]

how should i use mutilate on aoe for caustic

[grim jay]

Just press the button

And maintain caustic

On your main target

[crystal nymph]

so i should spam mutilate ?

[grim jay]

No

Caustic has a duration

And only if its about to drop you mutilate again

[crystal nymph]

to apply debuff again

[grim jay]

Right

[crystal nymph]

i must up debuff

ok

just on main target is enough?

[normal mist]

You can only have 1

[grim jay]

Lets say caustic has 9s duration, you apply it once and then mutilate at like 1-2s left in theory

[crystal nymph]

idk the spec

no idea about how it works

making it up is enough then

ty

is this good for m+?

i saw it from casualaddict

[grim jay]

We usually dont want to use subterfuge and 2nd vanish on the classtree

[normal mist]

Has double vanish

So no

[grim jay]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[grim jay]

The builds on the wowhead guide are the go tos

With their advantages being explained there

[crystal nymph]

ok ty

[normal mist]

Double vanish would be really cool if their CD was independent

But it isn't

Which means that if you double vanish in the first pull, you'll need to wait 4 minutes without vanishing to get 2 charges

This means that, all you get from the talent is probably 1/2 more casts of vanish per run

And wasting points on subterfuge and the other vanish related healing talent

[tropic falcon]

why do top logs dont macro the trinket to dm? they all press it right before kb, but the trinket lasts 20sec so i thought i should use it right with dm

[grim jay]

The stat drops over the duration

So it was in theory at some point better to use it with kb

Not anymore tho iirc

[balmy condor]

it was better to use 3 seconds into kb, now it's better to use with kb

[grim jay]

Oh

[tropic falcon]

xD

ok so i macro it with kb ?

[grim jay]

Just had it macroed to kb either way

[balmy condor]

yes

[tropic falcon]

i also use 1 charge of tee with it nomatter my energy?

[grim jay]

You always kinda waste energy with the one in the opener that you wanna get rolling (unless m+ potentially), after that you should preemptively burn energy

So you dont waste any

[fathom minnow]

What do u think on such gear and stats? What can Improve?

[tropic falcon]

right ok, ty

[grim jay]

Looks pretty standard. Whatever the sim robot tells you to do can be improved

If its worth it or not is debatable I guess

[fathom minnow]

how u recommend me to sim aoe?

[shrewd night]

[wet briar]

playing deathstalker without double vanish is pain

[royal lantern]

playing deathstalker is pain

double vanish is just even more pain

cus you literally waste points for nothing

[balmy condor]

how would double vanish even help if vanish is always on cooldown anyways

[zealous wolf]

hi guys, im just curious if sin rogue is really in a solid spot as some tier lists show? i didnt play the beta and just now trying to find out if sin will be in a solid spot

[balmy condor]

ask again in 6-7 weeks

balance is literally pointless atm

[zealous wolf]

thats a good point i guess

[north granite]

Tier lists are always accurate

Don't listen to whispur

[balmy condor]

yep, tier lists are definitely not just a money grab

[royal lantern]

S tier opinion

[balmy condor]

especially a full month and a half before the season launch

[zealous wolf]

sadly i donr think these wow ytes are making much from the vids xd

[balmy condor]

very accurate and 100% not in it for the money

[willow rapids]

Yes, whispyr trying to keep others down again

[royal lantern]

ofc they do lol

why else would they do it

[zealous wolf]

dont you need like 100k+ views to make anything?

[balmy condor]

no

<- doesn't get 100k views and makes money

[zealous wolf]

sick

did you make a tierlist? 😄

[balmy condor]

fuck no

I have morals

[normal mist]

XD

[zealous wolf]

just put all rogues in s+

[static glacier]

make a tier list of something

so u dont go poor

[willow rapids]

Maybe the only type of tier list are the ones saying how fun something feels and even then, it has the asterix of you having similar tastes in gameplay with that person

[north granite]

There are certain individuals that make tierlists their entire personality and make good money from it

[balmy condor]

I'll make a class tree capstone tierlist

tea S, deeper S, cold blood A, echoing reprimand B, without a trace F

+50 dollars

pogging

[zealous wolf]

what do you make of the petko spreadsheet? its updated every week so i guess its kinda a representation of the current state of all specs?

[balmy condor]

pointless

[grim jay]

We already know you are in cahoots with Whispyr

He leaked you the ultimate deathboi m+ builds

[balmy condor]

subterfuge ++ talent yep

that's the secret

[grim jay]

While we are sandbagging

[balmy condor]

take the shit talent but it's bugged

abuse early abuse often

[shrewd night]

[south lava]

Are assa rouges s tier in m+ damage wise in warwithin?

[north granite]

Ask Petko

[shrewd night]

Let me check my crystal ball for the tuning happening in five weeks

[willow rapids]

S++

[south lava]

I see destr warlock pumping

So broken

[north granite]

Yes reroll fast

Going live like this

[normal mist]

SS+ tier

Like a rare gacha game card

[normal mist]

The fact that you can identify it's broken it's sign that they won't be released like that

Or, if they are, it won't last really long

[shrewd night]

I aspire to be you some day, Royal

[normal mist]

A man gotta do what a man gotta do

[shrewd night]

[rotund oak]

im everywhere and nowhere

nothing escapes my gaze

got dirt on all of u boys

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[rotund oak]

wdym stepbro,best cat universe

[hoary remnant]

trust all tier lists

[balmy condor]

anyone have a tier list of tier lists

need to know which tier list is the best

[hoary remnant]

Yeah and we need some numbers in order to make it objective. Like 2/10 in presentation 5/10 in I like the streamer

[midnight mist]

Max has one I think

I thought it was rather accurate

Granted updates and shit

Ye good tier list

[balmy condor]

okay but you saying max tier list is S tier then

I need another opinion

[midnight mist]

Hm

That's true

[balmy condor]

what did dorki say about the tier list

he made his own tier list, different from max's

so is dorki list worse

very lost pls help

[willow rapids]

Everyone just make their own tier list of tier lists and debate

[balmy condor]

yeah that's a good idea, and then we can debate and come up with a tier list of tier list tier lists

[willow rapids]

Perfect

[balmy condor]

brother it's like 6am monday on east coast NA

who tf is simming

[willow rapids]

Other classes TCs?

[balmy condor]

not enough of us out there to cause a raidbots queue

[shrewd night]

Raidbots just have to add another tier of priority behind a 50 usd paywall

[balmy condor]

[royal lantern]

S tier premium

[willow rapids]

Tier list of raidbots users

[unkempt tangle]

!stealthbreak

[prisma monolith]

Stealth can break from:

• Evoker legendary buff expiring and bouncing back to the Evoker.
• Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
• Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
• Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
• Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
• Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)

[lean aurora]

How are we handling opener with deathstalker since we need our mark up. Just always open with ambush instead of garrote or using vanish to get the mark running?

[balmy condor]

you ambush once and then just cycle the capstone

[lean aurora]

how are we doing this in m+ since improved garrotes are important?

[balmy condor]

you ambush once and then just cycle the capstone

[rotund oak]

or just play fatebound 🤝

btw ive realized that the ilvl u get from lvling in beta lvling servers is 408

so its wise to get 520+ b4 the launch

looks cringe

[lean aurora]

oh I see. They changed the mark since the last time I tried^^ Nice you get the capstone whenever a target afflicted by the marks dies. I guess you have room for garrotes after the first pull and just make sure you dont let the capstone buff run out?

[balmy condor]

it's a 30 second buff

usually have enough time

[lean aurora]

okay that works. I see

[balmy condor]

there's times where it's not long enough

in which case you ambush once and then just cycle the capstone

:)

very silly tree

[lean aurora]

vanish for last ticks of KB/DM still a thing?

[balmy condor]

no

[lone parrot]

[lean aurora]

thank god. So vanish is used more freely I guess

[balmy condor]

it's just improved garrote

[knotty radish]

Hello again rogue friends

[balmy condor]

which in m+ is what you were doing anyway

so no change there

just a single target diff

[tropic falcon]

any1 using the luxthos wa pack and knows how to change the color of the fifth cp to also change color to green when using 7cp talents?

[normal mist]

Hello Rav

[knotty radish]

Trying to get the hang of sasa rogue again.

[fickle hamlet]

https://youtu.be/szPkrf36gaw

He has this video, but if it doesn’t have the information you are looking for, head over to the Discord

[tropic falcon]

ye i know asked on his discord yesterday, without a response. Just gotta wait and see i guess

[spice surge]

I had queues all day yesterday too

What the hell are they simmin

[lean aurora]

is the tooltip of fatal intent bugged or does it rly do 0 dmg right now / number missing?

[spice surge]

It does 0 dmg

[wide ferry]

why cant we get valeera sanguinar's mog tf. that shits 🔥

[potent raven]

ikr bro

been asking the same question

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/kfXlblvB-wlvGfc5gomhkI_mU1ximqEBTg-Izkh-xMg/%3Ftoken%3DeyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzY4MDIxZmUwLTc3YzItNGNlYi1iNzdjLWYzMTYyNGVkMTg2MVwvZGRoOWw4NC1hMDRlY2Q3OC03ZjBlLTRhYmYtYWJlNS00NDg5N2E0YzkwYjAucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.-o7v3A2G2pMlUq6cZtfHrJkGSXHtX-AMeyLtEgR1NOU/https/images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/68021fe0-77c2-4ceb-b77c-f31624ed1861/ddh9l84-a04ecd78-7f0e-4abf-abe5-44897a4c90b0.png?format=webp&quality=lossless&width=793&height=676

like damn

[static glacier]

salsa rogue

[steel ridge]

i want those daggers

now

[normal mist]

Same

[steel ridge]

trading post, bring them

go

blizzard, go

[weak isle]

make her relevant again in the story

[normal mist]

for only 19.99 you get one!

(it's a joke)

[steel ridge]

[grim jay]

Id buy valeeras daggers for 20

[wide ferry]

Instead we get a few good mens scuba gear from 1932

[steel ridge]

can i buy your dagger for 20?

[wide ferry]

and beach floaties

[normal mist]

If whole set, I'd buy as well

[grim jay]

[steel ridge]

[grim jay]

Imagine how weird it would look of it was in line with wow dagger size

[steel ridge]

[royal lantern]

[candid hull]

in the beta is assa viable in m+/aoe situations?

[spice surge]

Yes

[normal mist]

Yes

[candid hull]

Love that

[lean aurora]

Arent valeeras daggers kinda the mage tower green variant ones?

[candid hull]

unrelated but valeera is super hot

[normal mist]

Kinda... Meh

[cloud basin]

Honestly I just want nice daggers that aren't huge like swords lol

Like the class weapons we got and the remix recolor. Why are they so huge, even though I do use them

[safe wigeon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[grim jay]

The mage tower variant is decent in size

There are some good small mogs tho

Depending on which color you need

[balmy condor]

dslice is great they say

just find 4.6% for dslice they say

just have that same line

be -11%

in any sustained cleave/aoe

VERY SIMPLE

VERY LOGIC

I LOVE M+ SIMS

[grim jay]

Did you try every single dungeon route already tho?

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna hit filter

[shrewd night]

Why are you booing him, hes right!

[grim jay]

But fr tho

Wasnt that often the case?

That a dslice gain was roughly the opposite in sustained aoe?

[balmy condor]

not a 15% swing though

do you realize how fucking insane a 15% swing is

I'm changing 1 conditional in a rupture line

rupture in dslice on this profile is 7.7%

[grim jay]

Even if not, I could imagine by your reaction

What was the condition tho?

[balmy condor]

changing that rupture line is causing a dps swing TWICE AS LARGE AS THE DAMAGE OF RUPTURE

[balmy condor]

it's optimizing 1/2 scent of blood

I'm probably gonna lock it with some ttd thing and call it a day

but I have another idea that could just make it go away

scent of blood is fucking insane dude

[candid hull]

Wish I've done the mage tower for these, I've only done feral 😭

[grim jay]

Maybe we should just play the no scent build kush cooked up yesterday

[terse orchid]

That makes no scentse

[grim jay]

Really insane change ngl

% wise

[grim jay]

Maybe they ll get a trading post recolor one day

[normal mist]

As a proud owner of those, I wish everyone could go and get them

[balmy condor]

yeh and then people pick m+ builds cause it's 0.4% higher in dslice

when I'm just pulling 4% out of my ass on something that doesn't actually make sense to play

very epic

[candid hull]

I pray

[grim jay]

but muh special snowflake mog

[candid hull]

Yeah I missed out big time

[normal mist]

I'm not a fan of FOMO

[candid hull]

They look so good

With the other colors too

[grim jay]

Its rough ngl. Could get really wild with those dslice + 6-10 target patchwerk simmers

[quiet oar]

Wdym

[grim jay]

cough musclebrah cough

[quiet oar]

You dont like Anxiety over Digital achievements

[balmy condor]

worst part is that I can technically fix this with like 2 hours of fiddling

but then someone is gonna sim 7 target 1:30

and I'm cooked

[grim jay]

Maybe thats because you yourself are already so special

[grim jay]

But you cant really help those, can you?

Can just tell them what to sim as always

Optimize that and be done with it

[balmy condor]

ofc I can't help them

but like

do I really want to recommend dslice

when its spitting garbage like this

[grim jay]

We gotta work with that custom sim that chains all the dungeon routes together into one big run

[grim jay]

Probably wouldnt, considering theyd pin it on you if something isnt right

Are they working on dslice as a model?

[balmy condor]

dungeonroute composites have their issues too

all dungeonroute sims are no variance

because there's not enough computing power to add variance

[grim jay]

You mean as in same target amount at the exact time all the time?

[balmy condor]

yes

same death time, same pull time, same downtime

[grim jay]

I never ran a sim like that honestly, but wouldnt the difference, unless you wipe multiple times after killing some mobs of the pull or wiping on the boss, be rather small? Or atleast not too big

[spice surge]

For example maybe theres big pulls at the 3 minute mark, then it would say delaying your deathmark until 3 minutes is the correct play

But saying "always hold deathmark until 3 minutes" aint the correct thing to do

Despite that it might be good for that specific dungeon assuming no wipes or delays

[grim jay]

Ye rotationally its probably pretty bad to follow that specificly, but gearing/talent-wise?

[balmy condor]

or if you have a different route

and split a pack into 2 groups

now that big pull doesn't exist anymore

[spice surge]

And then you play the dungeon and somebody dies or you ninjapull

So now the big pull isnt until 4:30

And now youve lost a DM cast

[balmy condor]

so the sim plays incorrectly because the rotation is bad and overfit to the situation

[dark token]

This server has done nothing but bring me down as a person. Every day I come in here, and all you do is tear me down, insult me, and hurt me with your words. It has done nothing but harm me emotionally, physically, and mentally, and I just can’t take it any longer. This server is so abusive and toxic, it’s crazy. No one even realizes how disgusting all of your behaviors are. Every single time I talk, type, or even interact with anyone in the server, everybody just goes against me and gangs up on me like a pack of wolves, attacking me when I didn’t do anything to deserve these attacks and these hurtful words. I literally just try to discuss talent selection, particularly the KOTG, but nobody ever wants to be in my shoes. Nobody ever tries to sympathize with me and see where I’m coming from. All of you just see me as the enemy and the bad guy that’s trying to ruin the server or something when really I’m just trying to spread positivity. You guys act like I’m some kind of virus or disease, constantly casting me out, making me feel so left out and so alone in this server. It’s driving me insane. I feel mental and like a weirdo just being around all of you because of how you treat me.

[balmy condor]

and you want to trust that for gearing and talents?

nice

[grim jay]

Whats that wall

[potent raven]

not reading that essay

[grim jay]

I was just questioning the difference it would have for choices like that, as I really dont know. Been a dslice boi since day 1. It should atleast lose some of the specifying issue if it runs all of the dungeons in the sim, no?

[balmy condor]

it'll make it better

but it won't fix it

in shadowlands for example we were testing dungeonroute since it was the first implementation

[glacial stump]

You good bro?

[balmy condor]

and just off the rip it was suggesting entirely different covenants for upper and lower kara

[potent raven]

hes memeing

lol

[glacial stump]

He aint wrong tho, bunch of meanies

[potent raven]

as it should be

[grim jay]

Mh ye just taking those 2 in the same sim would probably already make it weird and favor the build towards the larger dungeon

[normal mist]

Damn someone give this man a medal because he's the smoothest guy alive

[gusty mirage]

Hey guys, I just checked out the new wow section of maxroll (they’re partnered with Echo! Wow!) and I just noticed that their guides are just copied and pasted from wowhead and icy veins. Do you guys know why Kush and Perfecto would copy the old guides and publish them to maxroll as 11.0 guides? Thanks!

[glacial stump]

We sure he's memeing tho ?

[potent raven]

lol 0 shame

[glacial stump]

wtf is maxroll, keep seeing stuff on twitter about their guides being done through AI or something

[grim jay]

Funfact: some girls dont take stuff thats too smooth serious.

[normal mist]

What copy pasta is that

[gusty mirage]

Raxxanterax’s attempt at making his own version of wowhead

They got some traction because of d4 and poe cause he’s an arpg guy

[normal mist]

Their loss

[gusty mirage]

So they tossed some money at echo to put their raiders’ names on their AI/stolen guides

[glacial stump]

sounds cool, I'll use their guides from now on

[gusty mirage]

[normal mist]

That's kinda fucked up ngl

[grim jay]

Whos that? Asking for a friend

[gusty mirage]

Blue hoodie content creator guy that became relevant because of Diablo

[normal mist]

If he isn't Ryker it doesn't matter

[gusty mirage]

Also developed the biggest hate boner for blizzard after he used his special access to d4 shit to absolutely shit on the game and they yoinked his access

Something something don’t bite the hand that feeds you

[royal lantern]

who is Raxxanterax

[gusty mirage]

Now he’s trying to get sued by wowhead ig

[grim jay]

Ahhhh I remember. Thought he looked like our dealer at school back in 2010 so I didnt watch his Videos

[gusty mirage]

His content fucking sucks anyway

[grim jay]

With that hoodie

[royal lantern]

you know what doesnt suck?

the 3 (!!!!) Monster Hunter Trailers we got today

[grim jay]

Are you their lawyer? Then hes in for a good time

[gusty mirage]

No

My broke ass is sitting here writing motion responses for blatant fraud getting paid peanuts

[grim jay]

Is there a new one coming out?

[balmy condor]

afaik we're taking a stance of non-engagement

[glacial stump]

but its writted by perfecto must be good

[spice surge]

Afaik Maxroll mostly got its name out there through lost ark, then moved on to ARPs like last epoch, diablo and some poe stuff

So i guess theyre trying to get wow stuff too now

[gusty mirage]

That’s what I gathered from the d4 team. But IV hasn’t made an official stance yet

So until that happens, I will continue to shit all over maxroll

[balmy condor]

yeah time for a classic "views are my own" twitter bio angle

[drifting cloud]

oh has maxroll only existed since 2022?

[gusty mirage]

Where’s that wow classic content creator at now?

[balmy condor]

fuck maxroll

[grim jay]

oxi said while using bundles as cigarette papers

[gusty mirage]

Ye it’s new

[drifting cloud]

I use it for some lost ark stuff, but never actual class guides because those are pretty bad

just for horizontal content

[grim jay]

Atleast they are not copying noxxic guides

[royal lantern]

YOU DIDNT SAW?????

[gusty mirage]

Is noxxic still a thing?

[spice surge]

It all depends on whos writing them, if its copied or AI its gonna be trash. There was a time where wowhead guides were considered absolute garbage as well

[grim jay]

Last time I memed it was

Few months ago

[spice surge]

But then they made an effort to get proper writers and suddenly they were good, who woulda thunk

[grim jay]

No actually not

[gusty mirage]

Well they’re copying and pasting wowhead’s shit and using AI to rewrite the intros and slapping echo raiders names on it lmao

[normal mist]

https://x.com/monsterhunter/status/1820372983195603004?s=19

Monster Hunter (@monsterhunter) on X

Focus Mode adds a new layer to the hunt in #MHWilds. Aim attacks or guards, and hit wounds that are highlighted in this mode for extra damage. Use Focus Strikes to unleash special attacks for big damage to wounds & weak points.

Each weapon has a unique Focus Strike!

Twitter · Aug 5, 2024, 8:15 AM

[gusty mirage]

Idk how they didn’t fathom this exploding in their face

[normal mist]

This came out today

[gusty mirage]

What a bunch of fucking idiots

Wait until asmongold wakes up from his Coca Cola coma and talks about this

[normal mist]

Ohhh true

[fossil crown]

feel like im spending a ton of time doin basically nothing but autoing and keeping my envenom buff and bleeds up with pandemic

mainly in ST

[grim jay]

Thanks, tryan send me one aswell

[royal lantern]

its asmongold, he will somehow blame trans people

[grim jay]

He was busy with a politics video

Guy is probably reloading

The take gun

[slate crown]

!pooling Yup, that’s the nature of this spec. That’s how it’s supposed to be.

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[normal mist]

If you're pooling currently, sounds about right

[fossil crown]

interesting, only just started assassination in 10.2 so not having turbo infinite spam energy pool is new to me

[normal mist]

We never did

[balmy condor]

10.2 had the same rules

[fossil crown]

maybe its why i sucked in 10.2

[grim jay]

Dont be so negative

[onyx scroll]

Just spam anyway

[grim jay]

You didnt suck, you only didnt play at your peak

[royal lantern]

only outlaw is "spam and ignore energy"

and outlaw is no rogue spec anyway

[arctic socket]

@balmy condor I haven’t looked at anything wow related in months, pls save me some reading rogue looking good next expac? Y or n

[fossil crown]

was just jokin

[balmy condor]

two erlie

[normal mist]

Yesn't

[balmy condor]

if you like thematics and want cool hero talents, then probably not

[grim jay]

Outlaw furylaw outfury fury everything the same. And the hidden artifact appearance even looks like 2 2h

[onyx scroll]

don't worry a rogue spec will be good

we all just hope it isn't outlaw

[grim jay]

Dw outlaw cant be good because no acro

[normal mist]

Glad to see blueish and reds thinking the same

[hearty reef]

[slate crown]

Yeah we’re not gcd locked. It’s something a lot of us like about the spec. It’s something to get used to for sure if you’re used to always casting.

[arctic socket]

thank you

[royal lantern]

REAL

[arctic socket]

[fossil crown]

im getting used to it, kind of a huge fan so far lol you just do what you are supposed to do and the spec does the rest

very nice coming from demonology and constantly having to throw shit out

[onyx scroll]

My only issue with the spec is when the tank turns the boss and your kingsbane gets parried

[normal mist]

Then the issue is with the tank

Not the spec

[onyx scroll]

tindral had issues with mushrooms

and fire

[fossil crown]

regarding GCD lock is sub more like assass or outlaw

[arctic socket]

My only issue with sin was seeing a huge mythic+ pack pulled then you blow all your cds n your kingbanes ticks twice 🙂

[balmy condor]

more like assass

sub is very fast during cooldowns

[slate crown]

Outside of cooldowns sub can have times where you run out of energy. During cooldowns sub is definitely gcd locked (though, so are we), but pooling isn’t really a goal or part of the play style.

[balmy condor]

and slow outside

[spice surge]

Sub is slower than assa outside cds but faster during cds

[balmy condor]

ye

[royal lantern]

sub outside of cds

backstab..........................................backstab........................backstab.......................evisc...........................backstab.............backstab..................

[potent raven]

so true

should make backstab only useable from the back of the enemies to make it more engaging

[fossil crown]

thanks for the help everyone 😄

feels like we are GCD locked in AOE?

[grim jay]

Should just make gloomblade baseline

[grim jay]

Ye because more targets = more energy

If you did spread bleeds right

[gusty mirage]

Ye with bleeds rolling and enough targets you end up limited by gcd

[fossil crown]

cool ty

[cyan dew]

Guys when do I use ashes? Max roll guide says it's before second kingsbane evenon, it's correct?

[hollow oasis]

!stealthbreak

[prisma monolith]

Stealth can break from:

• Evoker legendary buff expiring and bouncing back to the Evoker.
• Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
• Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
• Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
• Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
• Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)

[normal mist]

Maxroll xD

Oh boy here we go

Just macro it to kingsbane

[balmy condor]

it's already starting

[worn apex]

!stealthbreak

[cyan dew]

it's a bad guide? I'm also reading your's @balmy condor . Dnk wich one is more accurate tho.

[prisma monolith]

Stealth can break from:

• Evoker legendary buff expiring and bouncing back to the Evoker.
• Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
• Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
• Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
• Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
• Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)

[cyan dew]

guess yours, since you're our theorycrafter. xD

[balmy condor]

well considering maxroll is plagiarizing the wowhead and icyveins guides and then replacing random shit with AI to try and hide it

I'm gonna say probably not that one

[cyan dew]

Oh. Thanks, didn't knew.

[balmy condor]

https://x.com/Lepandk/status/1820410134813691937

lepan (@Lepandk) on X

This is the most obvious ChatGPT generated text I've ever seen.

Twitter · Aug 5, 2024, 10:42 AM

[cyan dew]

Potion is before Deathmark or before bane?

[balmy condor]

with dm

[cyan dew]

ty

[balmy condor]

my favorite way to describe outlaw is "a charismatic and cunning adventurer"

definitely written by a human

[safe wigeon]

we play fatebound in m+?

[balmy condor]

you can play both, fatebound a bit better

[normal mist]

Whispyr are you ready for the maxroll users to come ask questions eventually?

[balmy condor]

I'm tempted to make a !maxroll command

[normal mist]

I'm tempted to tempt you do it

It will probably go a long way honestly, and, as every other command, will save us some braincells

[unique plume]

This is brilliant. Which parts stand out to you the most? I'm experiencing this in my corporate job now where I read a text someone provides and it has that distinct air of ChatGPT tone of voice. It's like reading an average newspaper / promotional material.

[balmy condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/767453718764716042/1269994891715285003/Screenshot_20240805_142603_Discord.jpg?ex=66b21669&is=66b0c4e9&hm=eafdc0019789f29a8fd197fd43b3fc1533e71af212619425a470429a1648c39e&=&format=webp&width=726&height=772

the nodead on the macro to revive someone

incredible

[balmy condor]

honestly it's the adjective word-soup

no human has ever said the words "fuels your most devastating abilities such as between the eyes"

"energy is CRUCIAL for OPTIMAL performance"

[normal mist]

That's most likely AI yes

[spice spire]

Real

[balmy condor]

the last paragraph though is a dead nail

[spice spire]

I speak like that every day

[balmy condor]

like no one talks like that

[terse orchid]

A judge in my country recently used ChatGPT in his judgment. We're so doomed

[spice spire]

@midnight mist definitely does

[balmy condor]

yeh they teach him how to string together an absolute word salad in frenchland

believable

[midnight mist]

tbf outside of the weird ai part, the format is really good imo, its pretty, very digeste (if you ignore the introduction), and the rotation part is also good (outside of mistakes which i hope will get fixed)

[balmy condor]

I mean you can cover shit with gold

it's still shit

[midnight mist]

well

all im saying

[terse orchid]

So just the parts that were lifted from others?

[midnight mist]

is that

[normal mist]

I used to check maxroll / Rykker for D3 content and I found it good enough

[midnight mist]

i would rather read taht than wowhead

cause wowhead is a mess

and there is way too much useless info on wowhead

[midnight mist]

i mean if we are fair here, at least for outlaw, icy vein is a copy of wowhead which is a copy of the faq

so

[subtle kiln]

Which is also lifted from conversations in here.

[terse orchid]

When did Icyveins stop being a meme tho

[midnight mist]

well

[subtle kiln]

eliminate the middle and just have AI build guides from class discord discussions.

[midnight mist]

I didnt mention icy vein in this comment because im not sure anyone ever open icy vein in 2024

[subtle kiln]

I rather look at IV than wowhead

[terse orchid]

That's what gameblog sites do with reddit

[sharp viper]

restealthing is CRUCIAL for OPTIMAL damage in dungeons

[midnight mist]

!GUIDE

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[subtle kiln]

WE ARE NOT REDDIT

[midnight mist]

eh

idk

its mostly the same

but ugly

[subtle kiln]

it’s less shit to navigate. Both are shit designs

[terse orchid]

It's all trash. Which is why you just bookmark the wowhead sin rogue guide page and ignore the rest

[midnight mist]

i think in general method is also ok

idk

[subtle kiln]

Method is fine. Usually worry is updates.

Everything gonna get picked apart. What humans are good at.

[midnight mist]

hte issue with wowhead is that (ignoring the actual content), there is way too much information, its scattered everywhere, and most of the information is also repeated 10 times over 4 different sections

also lag

and overly generalized

[balmy condor]

!maxroll

[prisma monolith]

Maxroll's guides are currently facing large scale accusations of plagiarism, are clearly written with AI, and have questionable accuracy. They are not currently suggested as guides; hopefully this will change in the future

[balmy condor]

nice

back to sim

[terse orchid]

Shoulda made AI write that for you

[balmy condor]

true

[clever niche]

whispyr is AI

HIYA stands for HYPER INTELLIGENCE YEET ARTIFICIAL

[normal mist]

That was actually really funny

[sharp viper]

[midnight mist]

ok honest question tho

plagitarism thing

considering they have fairly uniques things that i havent seen anywhere else, altough they dont work well with outlaw at all
the rotation i guess you could argue? but then, you cant invent a rotation so

[balmy condor]

they have entire sections lifted verbatim and even made the same typo in one of the dk guides

[midnight mist]

(im not sponsored btw)

[midnight mist]

ok fair

cause like, i was fairly happy to see them cover kir builds and rotation for outlaw

which wowhead refuses to do

[fickle hamlet]

It could be that it's getting information from random threads on Reddit/other forums too

Or old information

[balmy condor]

they also copied bis gear lists that use embellishments which they don't include in their own embellishment list

[balmy condor]

that's a guy problem

[unique plume]

I read wowhead because of the trust I have towards the theorycrafters. It feels like a vouched for information, expert advice, trusted source

[balmy condor]

we have free reign to add sections to our guide as needed to explain things

so if KiR builds aren't covered

that's an issue you need to bring up with guy

[midnight mist]

no i know, just saying, cant be plagied from wowhead since wowhead doenst have it

but if you have examples of things like you mentioned earlier

its fine

i trust you

[balmy condor]

well yeah, they didn't plagiarize everything obviously

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1269795263199969404/1269798317605388449/image.png?ex=66b20816&is=66b0b696&hm=bc001b212b0f63823fae71460b27e8233a46d6ccb09e818b1568d3f4e2b35d62&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1920&height=561

this for example

is nearly 1 to 1 identical with a word flipped here or there

[midnight mist]

im just trying to be a bit warry of like accusing of plagitarism when there is already 5 guides websites that are all copies of each other you know

[midnight mist]

ye indeed

[fickle hamlet]

Corporate wants you to find the difference

[midnight mist]

ye ngl that one is

ye

bit shameless kekw

[drifting cloud]

https://x.com/Jet_Limit1/status/1820248268644798804

Jet (@Jet_Limit1) on X

guys wat do i do.. getting tripped up at step 9 atm

Twitter · Aug 4, 2024, 11:59 PM

[willow rapids]

that's like trying to copy homework, but think that changing a few words won't make it the same in 2nd grade

[balmy condor]

yeah

like it's hard to prove if we had to go to court or whatever cause "xddd rotation is the same though cause it's correct xddd"

but they're using the exact same words

even the explanations are identical

some of their gear lists are also hilarious

like they have bis enhance gear for m+

and it's identical to the overall bis enhance gear from wowhead

so it's suggesting sark cloak and signet brand in m+

which is hilarious

who tf is running signet brand in m+

[terse orchid]

New guide-writing meta will be throwing in typos or extra spaces, just so you can easily point out the plagiarism

[balmy condor]

or like frost dk

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1269795263199969404/1269829466918490183/image.png?ex=66b17c59&is=66b02ad9&hm=9ca0108d511e906e74013070b63d25ebef3617d7cb6dd0cbef061d3308e526f8&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=981&height=492

there's two lines of frost strike here

specifically because of how wowheads formatting works

he had to do double lines as a work around

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1269795263199969404/1269829466650316925/image.png?ex=66b17c59&is=66b02ad9&hm=25e72ab73955a6bb64a5d0feba901717c9332b8bac089207b882e5d08fed368c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=946&height=519

and the maxroll guide suspiciously has the same double line

with the same wording

even though they don't use togglers like the wowhead guide does

which makes having two lines pointless

[drifting cloud]

must be a coincidence

https://tenor.com/view/westworld-dolores-itdoesntlooklikeanythingtome-gif-18393363

[balmy condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1269795263199969404/1269831226802311259/image.png?ex=66b17dfc&is=66b02c7c&hm=8e2b5085cab44695e79951d17f98851fcf281cda9aacae576b13eb583449ff29&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1897&height=403

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1269795263199969404/1269831227062620191/image.png?ex=66b17dfc&is=66b02c7c&hm=e83a51c558924da826f6635444fb79ec942f8f26f0d009db286ba25d16582979&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1299&height=397

same thing with these

[weak isle]

meanwhile warrior discord is so happy with Maxroll

[balmy condor]

it's just barely different enough to try and squeeze past trouble

[willow rapids]

that just runs high risk of tarnishing your site rep, when for arpgs they're seen as a good source as far as I know

[balmy condor]

they're okay

it's very hit or miss

[willow rapids]

yea, but it's good enough and not seen as this recent thing is making them look at least

[balmy condor]

yeah

the wow guides SCREAM money grab by slapping echo's name on some slop

[final star]

From both sides as well

maxroll get more clicks

echo get paid

[midnight mist]

ye definitly very sus

[balmy condor]

their tier lists are funny too

[willow rapids]

aug in E?

[midnight mist]

Saw that ye

That answer is uh

[balmy condor]

xerwo is doing INSANE damage control on twitter atm

[midnight mist]

Weird to say the least

Ye

[normal mist]

Is it working?

[balmy condor]

depends who you ask I guess

most of the guide writers and theorycrafters are pretty pissed at least

don't think the average andy cares much

they'll just type "wow assa rogue guide" into google and click first link anyway

so they won't really care

[midnight mist]

This one tho, it's obviously a Ctrl c, Ctrl v sure, but let's be fair, it's a prio list, that have 0 explanation or anything, it's a bit hard to do anything different, if someone does a guide and copy paste the outlaw faq prio list, at least it will be correct you know, can't be mad about that

[spice spire]

Young Zachary that’s where ur wrong

I’m posted

Livid

[midnight mist]

Bro this is still not how you spell my name

You guys need to get it right

!

[keen spruce]

Are we mad? I’m mad what are we mad about?

[terse orchid]

But at that point a non-garbage person might wonder why they would even post it, if they're not providing any new info

[balmy condor]

whatever you say Zacherry

[midnight mist]

Well, I think the format is 10 times better

[spice spire]

It’s okay zackariah

[midnight mist]

If it had correct information etc

[midnight mist]

[terse orchid]

How is the format better, when the meat and potatoes are actual copy-paste jobs

[midnight mist]

What

[spice spire]

The format of the site

Which boils down to preference of navigation

I’m definitely against maxroll or whatever
But do think WH formatting could be a lot better for the guide writer and the viewer

[midnight mist]

How the information is conveyed is imo better, it's more concise, there is not a bunch of useless information scattered across 20 different sections, I don't need 10 clicks to get where I want, etc etc

Ye they might have copied a lot of stuffs, not arguing that here

(also I'm still not sponsored I swear)

[terse orchid]

It takes the same amount of clicks to go to the rotation page on maxroll as it does on wowhead

or any other section

[midnight mist]

I think you are purposely ignoring my point rn

so

you can discuss with yourself

[midnight atlas]

aug deals no dmg, ofc its F tier.

[charred obsidian]

I thought aug was s+ or even in its own god tier

when did that change

[balmy condor]

when maxroll decided to feed guides through an AI woodchipper

[charred obsidian]

dam

so in other words. its still op. gotcha

[balmy condor]

ye

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1269795263199969404/1270035647767511150/image.png?ex=66b23c5e&is=66b0eade&hm=098840d72338128ea0c75427487a45030e6b31386d98f74329e86e3da6f2694e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=939&height=228

very human macro

[willow rapids]

preheat assumes this is mistaking the wowhead icon input code and injecting it into the macro

[charred obsidian]

ah yes

[balmy condor]

correct

[normal mist]

Or you know #showtooltip Kick

[slim hamlet]

wtf is maxroll

Just a wowhead, method, icyveins like thingy?

[normal mist]

A website that people use a lot for other game guides like diablo per example

[willow rapids]

ye but focused on arpgs

[balmy condor]

🤖

[slim hamlet]

Aight

[normal mist]

Sorry 1001011001010

[balmy condor]

ah

makes sense yes

[normal mist]

Hehehehehe

[brazen sluice]

hi guys , so after like 6 years of playing wow as a caster ( got x2 CE got 1 time 2.3k rank in 2s arena and only 1 time got mythic plus titel ) im still chasing the dream of getting m+ title and ce and gladiator all in 1 season and i need a class to do that , my recent thoughts was rogue , but im new to it , any1 recommending a spec of rogue which u think with these early sims looking good for raid and m+?

[normal mist]

No sims but assa is good

[midnight atlas]

rogue is fine

[slim hamlet]

Assa usually great for raid and pvp, probably not the best rogue spec for m+ tho. Sub is usually above average for all 3 things. Outlaw is usually kinda meh for pvp, average raid and great for m+.

[normal mist]

A lot of tuning happening the next following weeks, we can go from good to gods

[brazen sluice]

oh i though all classes had some early sims , mybad then , Spriests has their own sims/builds just a peak u know

[slim hamlet]

We got sims, but they're useless

There is big tuning every week for all specs

[brazen sluice]

i tried sub in df s1 and black powder build was amazing

[slim hamlet]

I would definitely choose sub if I wasn't already a sin gamer

[brazen sluice]

yeh true that but i just wanted some talents for beta so i can hop and try

[slim hamlet]

Just higher likelyhood for it to be good in all content

Check pins for builds, they're somewhere

Otherwise they're pretty much the same as prepatch so you can check wowhead or the likes

[midnight atlas]

they fix the shadowcraft delayed return with replicating shadows, it's been there since the rework

[slim hamlet]

Yea surely they fix it not that there are 30 other bugs too to fix

[balmy condor]

dm xerwo on twitter for fix

[marble hemlock]

that one slipped through ig

besides i only use twitter for wholesome pet videos and egirls

[rotund oak]

dont tell me u wrote this

[marble hemlock]

like this whispyr chick

[balmy condor]

am I AI?

[balmy condor]

[earnest remnant]

i hate it, one second im looking at the most adorable Raccoon chomping on berries, next milisec TITTIES

[rotund oak]

who is the criminal

[earnest remnant]

my brain cant function with that many nuerons activated

[marble hemlock]

fair

[long island]

when do i apply crimson tempest, if there are 3 or more enemies?

[marble hemlock]

@slim hamlet why are you stareging me?

[balmy condor]

!maxroll

[prisma monolith]

Maxroll's guides are currently facing large scale accusations of plagiarism, are clearly written with AI, and have questionable accuracy. They are not currently suggested as guides; hopefully this will change in the future

[balmy condor]

[slim hamlet]

[balmy condor]

4 with tier, 3 on beta

[rotund oak]

maxroll writes wow guides?!

thats new

[slim hamlet]

no

[rotund oak]

omw to check them out

[slim hamlet]

AI do

[balmy condor]

they partnered with echo to pump out some of the worst slop I've ever seen

[marble hemlock]

theyve published a bunch of guides now and its presented as a collab with echo

some of the guides are genuinely good imo

but many are... not

[balmy condor]

I hear andy's guides are good

[long island]

what do u mean sir

[marble hemlock]

the raidbots/simming one is solid imo

from canexx

[balmy condor]

on live with tier, 4 or more targets
on beta, 3 or more targets

[midnight atlas]

maxroll made guides for lost ark and they were copy+pasted from korea

[long island]

oh thank you

[marble hemlock]

not all of them

[earnest remnant]

Inven are the goats

[marble hemlock]

most of the maxroll LA guides were done by people who played on korea and then made the english guides

[balmy condor]

well these seem copy pasted from chatGPT with an echo sticker slapped on

[marble hemlock]

they just never updated them

[earnest remnant]

just read the korean ones instead?

[marble hemlock]

i dont read moonrunes

sorry

[slim hamlet]

not even paid

[earnest remnant]

you read mud tho

[slim hamlet]

smh

[earnest remnant]

which is german ofc

[midnight atlas]

poor guy he does guides for free

[spice spire]

Tell him king !

His birthday is over, terrorize his ass

[rotund oak]

written by perfecto and reviewed by kush

cool stuff

the macros though..

why is there a mouseover macro for everything

how many mouseover macros can a rogue have

[earnest remnant]

yes

[slim hamlet]

I use way more mouseover than they have

lol

[subtle kiln]

They’re too busy figuring out addons to avoid dealing with private auras. Sneak.lua needs an update for 11.0

[earnest remnant]

you are not the norm for whats normal here

bud

[slim hamlet]

oh mb

[midnight atlas]

no mouseover shadowstep, the echo guys are newbs

[earnest remnant]

weirdo

[slim hamlet]

but mouseover for bleeds+ss+cc

[earnest remnant]

[rotund oak]

u mod-macro mouseover?

[slim hamlet]

feel like that is normal

[earnest remnant]

• danish

so L

[slim hamlet]

u are too bozo

[earnest remnant]

no?

[balmy condor]

I doubt it tbh

[earnest remnant]

i just live here

[slim hamlet]

i use the better mouseover macros tho

[slim hamlet]

hmm

[rotund oak]

[earnest remnant]

ANNYEOUNGHASEYO bish

[rotund oak]

[spice spire]

Koreeb

[earnest remnant]

dweeb

[slim hamlet]

the macro wherte you dont need seperate keybinds

[balmy condor]

koreaboo is the term you uncultured swine

[spice spire]

I know you are but what an I

[earnest remnant]

old and senile?

[slim hamlet]

dog

[spice spire]

Koreeb is short just like weeb is short for weeabo you dumb ass mf

[balmy condor]

now you're just making shit up

[spice spire]

I’m one of those things

[past forum]

What’s wrong with danishes, gotta be one of my favorite pastries

[earnest remnant]

the fact that danishes arent called danishes in Denmark

[spice spire]

Just like the cilantro bit bud?

[earnest remnant]

thats whats wrong

[spice spire]

Wtf

[earnest remnant]

VIENERBRØD

[shy pecan]

Reported

[austere sorrel]

Should you spec into an extra charge of danish?

[subtle kiln]

Triple danish

[slim hamlet]

wtf are they even called

[earnest remnant]

one danish person is enough

[spice spire]

Yes

[slim hamlet]

oh

vienerbrød

[rotund oak]

dansk gaming is the superior gaming btw

[slim hamlet]

Vienerbrød is dogshit ngl

[rotund oak]

and im not even danish

[spice spire]

Glazing

[past forum]

She brod on my viener til i glaze

[grim jay]

idk about that

[slim hamlet]

I love getting glazed

[midnight atlas]

good thing its not the other way around

[rotund oak]

😂

cmon man its not that bad

well kinda

[balmy condor]

more like written by chatGPT and reviewed by ctrl C and V

[rotund oak]

[slim hamlet]

Not all of it sounds AI

Just most

How would AI write about spatter? It didn't exist when it was trained

[midnight atlas]

i wish guides were illegal and we had to figure shit out ourselves

[rotund oak]

gaslighting 😉

[slim hamlet]

fr no sims either

Just pure brainpower

I bet we would do so well

[midnight atlas]

i did that when i started in shadowlands and i was doing doing tank dps in nathria

i had fun though

killed so many teammates with sludgefist chain

[slim hamlet]

I had no idea what sims or wowhead was until I had killed my first 3 mythic bosses in CN

[earnest remnant]

i used to kill my DH friend on farm on purpose every other week

[slim hamlet]

[earnest remnant]

for terrorizing me on progress

[marble hemlock]

based

[earnest remnant]

quick lil shadowstep to a ranged player to snap his neck

[slim hamlet]

Huge if you ask me

[slim hamlet]

Our DH kills themselves freely

[marble hemlock]

nah

the best way to kill DH players

is to cancelaura the shroud with the pulltimer being down to 2sec

cause you just KNOW theyre the closest to the boss by that point

[slim hamlet]

That is demonic

[marble hemlock]

and you can always blame immo aura

[slim hamlet]

ahah get it

[rotund oak]

[slim hamlet]

demonic like a demon

[rotund oak]

Seli's plot is twisted

[viral stump]

Can't get Cold Blood to work in TWW Beta. It's selected in the Rogue talent tree. Won't become available to click though.

[earnest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-leave-gif-5785321051025239919

[slim hamlet]

[balmy condor]

inevitability on fatebound replaces cold blood with a different cold blood and that can brick some stuff sometimes

gotta talent in/out of it, reload, all that nonsense

[midnight atlas]

i was pumping, didnt even had timers

[slim hamlet]

Truly gamers we were then

[keen spruce]

I miss shmeatwing

[slim hamlet]

I did 3089dps and 10th percentile was 3900

on Hungering

[keen spruce]

gud first boss