assassination

[spice spire]

Bro

[real pike]

oh nah if you hang back and kill the mob you can sometimes stealth but sometimes it ain't on the cards

[thorn fjord]

Why do you think we play wow

[spice spire]

Stop hanging out near gay bars

[limber lion]

99% of the time you can

[strange python]

Goddamn I was trying to be sarcastic

[narrow basalt]

just didnt enjoy sin as much today as I used to. Doesnt have to be any deeper.

[limber lion]

It's about positioning

[spice spire]

Hope you’re enjoying Knox though

It’s a quaint city

[clever sapphire]

play the bonespike hybrid build, best day ever

im totally unbiased

[balmy condor]

bro's talking like he's sending messages via pidgeon tf are we doing

[thorn fjord]

In Gatlinburg… we drove to Knoxville yesterday and it was… interesting

[narrow basalt]

real

[thorn fjord]

Show was dope tho

[real pike]

is it 100% positioning? I thought after a certain amount of time with your tank having engaged the new pack you can't?

[balmy condor]

it's positioning

[rare jackal]

a raven from kings landing: the king asks about restealthing

[real pike]

but also if you can't kill the mob and it reaches them I think that squiffs it?

[runic hinge]

Real life escapism

[balmy condor]

there's like a radius of combat or some shit

[limber lion]

Nope

[balmy condor]

where if a party member enters combat within like 30 yards you get put in as well

or some shit like that

[limber lion]

It's just positioning and a matter of practice

[jaunty dew]

Is Spiteful still a thing for tww?

[limber lion]

No

[balmy condor]

no

[jaunty dew]

FINALLY

[limber lion]

Hasn't been a thing

[balmy condor]

very sad

spiteful was the biggest dps week

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/bobawooyo-dog-confused-dog-huh-dog-meme-shocked-dog-gif-16713203299056947073

[limber lion]

All affixes ded

[balmy condor]

my numbers

[jaunty dew]

lmao

[balmy condor]

I play m+ to blast

and they took the biggest blaster affix out

so unlucky man

[jaunty dew]

Did you finish working on your yard young man?

[balmy condor]

no our car broke down

[limber lion]

BuT tHe ReStEaLtHs!!!!!!?!?

[strange python]

They should’ve let the affix with the orbs on beta stay, that was blast heaven

[spice spire]

Bros gonna make him have a menty b

[real pike]

but if the one remaining mob you're already tagged in combat with doesn't die and makes it to the new pack with health remaining you can't I think?

learning lots here

[limber lion]

You can

[real pike]

😮

[limber lion]

Just gotta stay behind

But at that point there's kinda no point

[real pike]

did not know that if you were already tagged to a mob, pretty huge news

[limber lion]

Going afk for 5s waiting for it to die is probs worse than just going ham right away

[real pike]

there is if you play keys for vibes

hue

[limber lion]

True

Love the vibe nation

[royal lantern]

leme gues, its somehow your fault?

[jaunty dew]

It's a very fine line, between having to restealth so you can actualyl use IC and pop off on a pack or just go in with fok and CT and just rely on CS for spread damage.

Depends on the pack imo and how much value you'd get from spreading garrotes/ruptures

[balmy condor]

nah she was having car trouble before we showed up

can't blame that one on me

[subtle kiln]

@limber lion did we ever get an answer to combopoint management?

[jaunty dew]

Can always blame you..

[balmy condor]

brother I spend like 1000 dollars a year to fly halfway across the planet away from my gf and my friends and my hobbies so that I can get called slurs and hurt myself doing physical labor the once a year

and then I show up here to relax and just repeat the pins

the only one to blame here is me

you're 100% correct

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

the only good thing that happens in july is knowing I get to go home in august

[thorn fjord]

Where are you

[balmy condor]

hell

[thorn fjord]

So New Jersey?

[strange python]

Worse

[gusty mirage]

weird way to spell germany

[balmy condor]

this can't be germany

the torture is far too specific

[gusty mirage]

wdym

thats what germany is known for

that's kinda their thing

[marble hemlock]

if you cant get restealths between pulls in m+, just stand in shit. you either die, getting a free restealth, or youll die and the group has to stop to rez you, or the healer has to pump all his mana into you, at which point the tank is going to stop pulling for healer mana. or he doesnt, you wipe, and you get a restealth.

[hollow stone]

you can tell this guy's been playing sin in keys for a while

[balmy condor]

he was rank 1 in legion after all

[haughty flicker]

that might be the most based thing ive read all day

[marble hemlock]

almost in bfa too

[normal mist]

How to get a restealth: throw a tantrum

[gusty mirage]

yeah and I almost don't hate myself

good thing almost matters

bozo

[marble hemlock]

i almost cared about your reply

[balmy condor]

I almost murdered a dozen rogues bitching about restealths

[gusty mirage]

I'll remember this the next time

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-and-furious-vin-diesel-paul-walker-rude-never-gif-12399066

[balmy condor]

but I exercised impossible self restraint

[marble hemlock]

you lit the fire, not my fault you got burned yourself a little

[waxen oyster]

How can people hate spiteful

It’s free dam

[balmy condor]

muh stealth

literally always just "it feels bad"

[gusty mirage]

because people think restealths matter more than having rolling dots going into a pack

[thorn fjord]

Brother it’s week one of pre patch… you’re gonna get way more than restealth complaints

[runic hinge]

Sometime it hit me and I cri

[balmy condor]

0 thought behind those eyes

[round root]

!wa

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[balmy condor]

just

"feel bad"

[waxen oyster]

If your top target hit in the key isn’t spiteful shade are you really gamin?

[balmy condor]

"wah"

[marble hemlock]

most people still dont know that spiteful doesnt actually stop you from stealthing if you dont attack it, unless its fixated on you.

[round root]

!wa

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[marble hemlock]

just do singletarget dam, hope you dont proc PB, and restealth like you normally would

[gusty mirage]

bozos don't know they can hit the restealth before it fixates

LMAO

[marble hemlock]

ye

[waxen oyster]

Unless they kill them staggered

If all the shades spawn at once its free re

[limber lion]

いえ

[marble hemlock]

good thing assa is one of the best specs to even out mob HP to stop that from happening

[normal mist]

Who still uses the original Ctrl+f1 for stealth?

[waxen oyster]

True

[gusty mirage]

okay grandpa

[waxen oyster]

I miss bonespike on spiteful

[gusty mirage]

lets get you back inside

[waxen oyster]

You get a spike

you get a spike

and you get a spike

[marble hemlock]

dont get me wrong, i dont like spiteful, but it wasnt nearly as big of a deal as people said it was

[normal mist]

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[raven egret]

WTF

[gusty mirage]

mfer hitting the function buttons

WILD

LMFAO

[waxen oyster]

I actually hate storming more

that affix is grief

[gusty mirage]

man must have the hands of shaq

[marble hemlock]

i hate volcanic the most

because it makes ranged stand in melee to not get them

[gusty mirage]

I love you the most

[marble hemlock]

and then they get regular mechanics

[normal mist]

I dont actually press ctrl with a finger

[marble hemlock]

and die all the time

or force me to move away from them

[normal mist]

but with the corner of my hand

[slate crown]

YES

[slate crown]

DOUBLE YES

[waxen oyster]

You are expecting ranged to do mechanics

[slate crown]

PALM CTRL GANG RISE UP

[limber lion]

Seek help

[shy pecan]

Weirdos

[haughty flicker]

thats wild

[gusty mirage]

bro lisonna's dinosaur ass agreeing with you is kinda tragic for boomer status

💀

[marble hemlock]

everytime that mage blinks into melee to cast his fucking shifting power while quake was happening

palm ctrl? the fuck?

[normal mist]

Bro, we are just built different

[real pike]

I click it :>

[marble hemlock]

ctrl is pressed with the proximal phalange of your pinky

[gusty mirage]

still less cursed than ctrl + f1

[limber lion]

My friend uses Shift + 9 for Paladin bubble

People are fucked

[marble hemlock]

sorry

[magic thorn]

!stealth

[marble hemlock]

not distal

[shy pecan]

tf

[magic thorn]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• You can add in some sanguine/rupture value from carnage, but chaining allows for higher uptime and smoother energy overall, eliminating a lot of ramp at the start of a pull
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths (chain heavy spiteful weeks are only about -30% on stealths)
• You still have vanish which gives you plenty of options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[waxen oyster]

mmo mouse

[limber lion]

Another command user

Based

[waxen oyster]

Im assuming

[limber lion]

No

[marble hemlock]

CTRL is pressed with L3.

[limber lion]

He pinkies the shift and indexes the 9

But he's also over 2 meters tall

[slate crown]

Close

[haughty flicker]

i genuinely cant even manage that

[marble hemlock]

or L1

occasionally

[limber lion]

Me either

[slate crown]

Ctrl is pressed by this area

[limber lion]

Wtf

[slate crown]

for me

[balmy condor]

I curl my pinky and press it with the outside of l1

[marble hemlock]

yeah

tahts like

the other way to do it

but palm is cursed

demonic even

[limber lion]

I don't care about 2's and 3's

Only 1's in this household

[balmy condor]

tiny hands I guess

checks out

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[balmy condor]

cause lisonna is like 3 foot 2

or something

[marble hemlock]

i have very smol hands

[raven egret]

Fck it let's bind garrote to Ctrl+shift+alt+F7

[normal mist]

Exactly this

Y'all doomed

[real pike]

Small hand gang rise up

[normal mist]

Can't even stealth properly

[real pike]

Shift-6 is a stretch

[normal mist]

then complain about re stealths

[gusty mirage]

I restealthed just fine tyvm

just like imma restealth outta here and never talk to any of you bozos again

💀

[normal mist]

You couldn't

[limber lion]

Stealth on v

Best bind

[gusty mirage]

stealth on ~

[slate crown]

ctrl+F1 using this region is not hard to press either, the original stealth bind

[gusty mirage]

wtf else you using tild for

[real pike]

Uhh no that's feint obviously

[limber lion]

Tilde is a good one too

I use tilde for tricks

[subtle kiln]

Alt-F4 best stealth bind

[balmy condor]

okay stop

[raven egret]

Tsk v is for vanish

[gusty mirage]

V is deathmark

yall wild

[real pike]

Nah G is vanish

[lyric crater]

any one use luxtho i cant seem to get the bar to show 7 cb

[limber lion]

Shift v is vanish

[slate crown]

Rupture, ctrl +tild = snd, alt + tild = racial abilities, shift + tild = mount

Had those that way for years

[balmy condor]

update

[gusty mirage]

Shift 1 is vanish for me, omg we're almost twins

[limber lion]

!wa

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[limber lion]

Here

:)

[subtle kiln]

V is Deathmark. Previously vendetta. .

[raven egret]

Nono that's shroud

[real pike]

S is deathmark, can't be a coward if you can't move backwards

[limber lion]

Updated luxthos

[normal mist]

meanwhile i ctrl + mousewheel down

[balmy condor]

my hand hurts just contorting itself to be able to hit control, w, and f1

why would you do this

[gusty mirage]

but how do I stop auto running while I'm shoving food in my face

[lyric crater]

hmm ok though i did ty

[slate crown]

Oh that's my stealth button now, ctrl+mwd is stealth for me, v for vanish

ctrl + mwup = sprint

[marble hemlock]

i have small hands and my sprint is on 7

[real pike]

Just tap W, this isn't league

[gusty mirage]

[normal mist]

thats my FoK

[gusty mirage]

does that actually work

[slate crown]

So I can hold ctrl, then do scroll up+down quickly to do stealth -> sprint in quick succession

[real pike]

Bruh

[balmy condor]

had someone earlier with the same problem and they updated and it worked fine idk, ask luxthos if you're having issues

[gusty mirage]

have I just been stupid for the last 2 decades?

don't answer that

the answer is yes

[real pike]

Lmaoooooo

[haughty flicker]

[marble hemlock]

how old are you again?

[gusty mirage]

I take back my queso video

unwatch it right now

[marble hemlock]

too late

[subtle kiln]

One foot in the grave

[marble hemlock]

deal with it

[gusty mirage]

he's older than both of us

[subtle kiln]

EU

[marble hemlock]

im not

im older than either of you

[subtle kiln]

Hasn’t dealt with the shit we dealt with

[marble hemlock]

both would mean im older than the two of you put together

which im not

[real pike]

That was me, I did a hard update though (delete the wa + kids and import a new one) and it worked fine

[subtle kiln]

so we’ve aged more

[gusty mirage]

idk seli's gone through a lot of shit in his life

[limber lion]

Hmm

[marble hemlock]

[normal mist]

most of my keybinds are on my 2 side button mouse

[magic thorn]

@balmy condor Do you have anywhere written why the second vanish is not picked for any talent build ?
Or is it just worse by sims?
I would think that this would be better for M+ instead of Echoing.

[marble hemlock]

god is giving his toughest challenges to his strongest soldiers

[shy pecan]

Push to talk

[marble hemlock]

just like hes giving his longest naps to his eepiest ones

[gusty mirage]

can I start banning the green names

[balmy condor]

cause it's fucking horrid

[gusty mirage]

and ed

[limber lion]

Because it's literally useless

[drifting wing]

assa in keys with ER feels really nice 🙂

[limber lion]

Read what it does

[real pike]

If you use it on CD (which you should) an extra charge means nothing, it's one extra Vanish the whole run

[balmy condor]

literally 4 points that provide nothing

[limber lion]

Instead of 25 vanishes in a key yoy get 26

Sheeesh

Insane talent

[shy pecan]

wtf

[limber lion]

It's not double vanishes

Or lower cd

It's just one vanish

Nothing else

[gusty mirage]

[shy pecan]

Also, ctrl + Q for stealth for me

[subtle kiln]

Christofascism taking over

[shy pecan]

this

[magic thorn]

Ok i now understand

This is useless

[limber lion]

It sure is

[normal mist]

you're smarter than most people who came to this chat today

you understand 1+1

[marble hemlock]

id argue that theres some value to the vanish node, because you sometimes didnt vanish on CD for one reason or another, so it ends up being more than 1 gain (and potentially double boss-mechanic-avoidance on shit like rezan fixate, which has high value too), but its still not worth for 3 points

[royal lantern]

shift+3

[marble hemlock]

ill always win the most cursed hotkey battle anyway

[limber lion]

When

[shy pecan]

Whispyr's been typing for like 3 hours

[fresh ginkgo]

Whispyr when is next podcast? 😦

[marble hemlock]

because my mount is on Q

[real pike]

Fuck off

[balmy condor]

I put a point into soothing darkness, I am one step closer to death
I put a point into subterfuge, it does nothing, I am at peace
I put a point into subterfuge, it still does nothing, the weight of the universe bears upon me
I put a point into without a trace, and like it, my existence is meaningless amongst the cosmos as my soul is ground to dust and returned to whence it came

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

never

[marble hemlock]

is this a "when did i ask" bait?

[fresh ginkgo]

[normal mist]

mine is shift + spacebar

extremely useful

[limber lion]

Nono, just wondering what kind of a scenario would have you use cds but not vanish

[marble hemlock]

tbf, my ground mount is on Q, my flying mount is on shift+q

[limber lion]

I can't think of any

[lyric crater]

it work i didnt have the updated one it look all good now just need to get useto 7 cb now

[real pike]

Garrote is shift-F for me, had a few people upset at that

[haughty flicker]

shift+spacebar for me is an opie with mounts and hearthstones

very nice

[marble hemlock]

i typically held onto vanish if theres a boss coming up where you can vanish a mechanic, or if the silence could become useful. vanish as a DPS CD was kinda low impact anyway, so not using on CD wasnt a meaningful loss in any scenario

[normal mist]

a man of culture

[shy pecan]

Same

[marble hemlock]

with IC, not using vanish on CD was also just value to still get IC during chains, but sometimes that meant sitting on it for 15+ seconds. it adds up, but its not a big gain either way

i basically didnt consider vanish a DPS CD since, like, early SL

[balmy condor]

@marble hemlock https://www.twitch.tv/wosstii/clip/ArborealHumbleHabaneroLitFam-Wx2QHpN3ubmM7tkl

[marble hemlock]

i saw

its fantastic

[balmy condor]

incredible

[real pike]

Tbh I use(d) Vanish to respread improved bleeds rather than alongside KB in keys anyway, no idea if that's good or bad tho

[marble hemlock]

the raszageth one is better tho

did you see that one?

[balmy condor]

yeah

[haughty flicker]

working as intended

lmao

[marble hemlock]

its funny how

all 3 final bosses are bugged in some way

its impressive, really

tindrals is the best though

the beams are just

random sometimes

[limber lion]

Pretty sick

[marble hemlock]

or cross

we had 2 beams just crossing through the boss

[limber lion]

Update game, break game

Love me some spaghetti

[grand trail]

How they even break something they weren't supposed to touch

[marble hemlock]

like this

it killed 4 melee

(not my picture, i wouldnt have chosen such a shitty color)

[shy pecan]

Is it as good as mom's spaghetti?

[balmy condor]

so what you're saying is that prepatch added more raid content than season 4

[marble hemlock]

[errant trail]

tbh at this point i’m gonna be a bleed boy coin 🪙 bound

[limber lion]

Gl

[royal lantern]

getting hangry!! (rawr! xD)

[limber lion]

Mom spaghetti fucking mid

Unlucky

Ghetto recipes it is what it is

Beggars can't be choosers

[shy pecan]

[frosty reef]

hows sin looking for tww?

[runic hinge]

Pretty sick tbh

[marble hemlock]

its a spec

[runic hinge]

You bleed stuff

And also poison it

[real pike]

Double bubble

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/OEsx1rY.jpeg

nobody can beat me

[limber lion]

The fucking same

[marble hemlock]

having 3 different mount hotkeys

[balmy condor]

sin is looking with both eyeballs

[grand trail]

I love how game is fuck up now but class dev and warband dev giving interviews like everything is golden 😄

[limber lion]

I had 4 goml

[real pike]

Oooo I also cloak on Z classy choice

[marble hemlock]

ye but were they Q, shift+x and shift+6?

didnt think so

[haughty flicker]

z is the defensives button

[limber lion]

No f1 f2 f3 f4

[frosty reef]

cloak is for 1

no 2

[limber lion]

Because I'm not a demon

[frosty reef]

evasion is 1

[real pike]

Evasion is s-3

[runic hinge]

Z is for stealth

[errant trail]

we suffer together

[marble hemlock]

i also have people looking at me weird for having shadowstep on 1

but idk about that one

[errant trail]

copium

[frosty reef]

its that bad???

[runic hinge]

Evasion is x

[real pike]

Shadowstep on F

[errant trail]

it’s bad ass

okay

but yes we are okay in raid it feels like

[balmy condor]

hero talents are pretty doomed, the base spec is fine

[frosty reef]

hows ww monk?

[errant trail]

u gotta ask big boys in here

[normal mist]

?

[marble hemlock]

okay

[limber lion]

My Mutilate is numpad 5, garry numpad 6 and evis numpad 8

[marble hemlock]

real question to find out who the REAL rogues are

[limber lion]

Gg

[errant trail]

the hero talents feel like you bought from temu

[frosty reef]

cause if im not going rogue im going ww

[marble hemlock]

What's your Detection Hotkey?

Mine is G.

[real pike]

Detection?

[normal mist]

cheers i guess

[marble hemlock]

disqualified

[frosty reef]

im going to suffer one way or another

[limber lion]

It was the thingy next to Z

[real pike]

Kek

[limber lion]

<>

[balmy condor]

I don't bind detection seli, It's not 2010

[marble hemlock]

schnabeltaste

[runic hinge]

Shift g

[marble hemlock]

if you dont have swirly ball bound

[shadow badger]

bro i just did some keys with bone spike this shit is peak im never not running this again

[marble hemlock]

you aint a real rogue

dont @ me

[limber lion]

Good for you

[balmy condor]

seli binding abilities created before the towers fell

unfuckingreal

[errant trail]

what’s everyone’s pick pocket key

[marble hemlock]

it was removed and brought back mid legion actually

so youre wrong

[errant trail]

mines shift 10

[marble hemlock]

its macrod into cheapshot, sap and ambush

[limber lion]

[errant trail]

also my kingsbang is shift r

cuz my whittle fingers can’t reach 1-5

[balmy condor]

kingsbang is a better name

I like that

[runic hinge]

Kingsbang????

[errant trail]

$us

[marble hemlock]

tru

[errant trail]

[limber lion]

Alright I think we can stop with the keybinds

To no one's surprise everyone has their own binds

Sheesj

[real pike]

I have my menu bound to Esc crazy right

[errant trail]

kingsboing

[balmy condor]

could've been us but you're always playing, king

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/oC0NL9n.jpeg

[errant trail]

Queens bane tho they never made one of those

omfg

i have /roar into my death mark window

[limber lion]

Nonbinary royalty person's bane

[runic hinge]

Isn’t there a weapon next patch named queensbane?

[errant trail]

then i have a weak aura that goes uwu whenever caustic spatter goes on

[marble hemlock]

you wanna bind /train into every rotational ability you press a lot, so you permanently annoy people who play wiht ingame sound on

[runic hinge]

We live as far apart in America as possible

[limber lion]

Alright FWD is officially on the blacklist

[marble hemlock]

guild is dead nw

[balmy condor]

monarchbane, sovereignbane, majestybane

[marble hemlock]

Sultansbane

not sure what other king equivalents we have

[haughty flicker]

tsarsbane

[real pike]

Tsarbane

[haughty flicker]

kaiserbane

[real pike]

Fuq

[limber lion]

Presidentsbane :-)

[haughty flicker]

rexbane

[marble hemlock]

kaiser is a level above king

since its the emperor equivalent

[balmy condor]

emperorbane

[haughty flicker]

fair

[marble hemlock]

[haughty flicker]

though i think historically there were sultans that were emperor levels too

[balmy condor]

I guess that doesn't work

since empress exists

[marble hemlock]

this mf thinking kings and emperors are the same

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-kuzco-emperors-new-groove-disney-poison-gif-17585271

[real pike]

Not for a while, rip Denuvo cracks

[marble hemlock]

man never played a game of crusader kings or europa universalis in his life

or hed know the difference

[haughty flicker]

he'd also know the perfect eugenics plan

[balmy condor]

I would never crack a game I'm an upstanding citizen

[limber lion]

So long as Joffrey lies on the ground, we've won

[marble hemlock]

hes german

[limber lion]

Was the poison Joffrey drank Kingsbane?

[balmy condor]

I'm 184cm and insanely handsome, I am the embodiment of eugenics

[limber lion]

Drunk?

[balmy condor]

wait

[marble hemlock]

it was nightshade

[limber lion]

Gg

[errant trail]

linguini blades

[limber lion]

Wait where did you lose the 3cm

[balmy condor]

idk

[limber lion]

I thought we were the same height

[balmy condor]

I don't remember my height in cm

so I always estimate

[limber lion]

Honestly good enough

[marble hemlock]

wait

youre not that tall are you

[limber lion]

Bitches care about inches more than cm

[balmy condor]

I'm like 184 187

idk

[marble hemlock]

damn

i always thought

[balmy condor]

mid 180's

[marble hemlock]

youd be my height

[limber lion]

He's a lanky guy

[marble hemlock]

but youre one of those mutants instead

[limber lion]

Just like me :3

[real pike]

Eww, measuring height in a measurement that makes sense

[balmy condor]

yeh sorry, I'm not the 170cm twink you imagined me to be

[limber lion]

If I ask a Finnish woman how tall they want their man to be, the answer is always gonna be "taller than me" or "I don't care"

[marble hemlock]

you can be a 182 or 184 twink instead, its fine

dont let your dreams be dreams

[limber lion]

No one's handing out a ruler and a required centimeter

[balmy condor]

bigger man means bigger toes

[drifting cedar]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• You can add in some sanguine/rupture value from carnage, but chaining allows for higher uptime and smoother energy overall, eliminating a lot of ramp at the start of a pull
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths (chain heavy spiteful weeks are only about -30% on stealths)
• You still have vanish which gives you plenty of options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[marble hemlock]

bigger toes means more peanut butter required

[balmy condor]

I'm hiding a whole pack of landjäger in there buddy

[limber lion]

So many !restealthers today, love to see it

Get educated

[limber lion]

Land jägermeister?

[balmy condor]

it's a sausage

[slate crown]

good work

[marble hemlock]

its like jerky but more sausage like

[subtle kiln]

if it makes them feel better, Shadowdance is bugged on sub.

[marble hemlock]

you always brought a pack with you when you went hiking and stuff

[limber lion]

Good

[marble hemlock]

good hiking food

[balmy condor]

it's the best thing germany has to offer aside from schnitzel

[limber lion]

No ome gets dsnce

[marble hemlock]

rostbratwurst

[limber lion]

Equality 🦹

[balmy condor]

that's aight

[real pike]

Berghain?

[marble hemlock]

kartoffelklöße

[balmy condor]

I'm not a rostbrat fan

[marble hemlock]

theres a few good things in germany

[limber lion]

A good bratwurst fucks

[marble hemlock]

kartoffelsalat

[limber lion]

Potato whanot

[marble hemlock]

[limber lion]

Potatosalad

Yuk

[balmy condor]

I'd have to go to berlin

no one wants to go there

[real pike]

'tis a silly place

[subtle kiln]

a good german potato salad. nomnomnom

[marble hemlock]

tbf, after having had potato salad in many other countries

i get that

cuz its just loads of mayo with most people

but thats heresy

[limber lion]

Yeah probably don't know better, I admit

[balmy condor]

if I had to pick whether to go to koln or berlin, gun to my head

the gun would go off

[errant trail]

so whispah

if like

[marble hemlock]

nah thats an easy one, berlin

cologne is

[errant trail]

let’s say all my dots are on and i’ve finished Kingsbang and death mark

[marble hemlock]

beyond awful

[limber lion]

Köln and Berlin are super popular exchange spots for our students

[normal mist]

Guys, Help the pink dudes from #transmog and go check and vote the #1262437829150113855 There's good stuff there already.

[limber lion]

Great classical music teachers in both

[errant trail]

how much energy should i be sustaining

[balmy condor]

enough to not run out

[subtle kiln]

EXCUSE ME no self promoting

[balmy condor]

the same as always

[errant trail]

so it’s not like zee end of zee world if i like go under 50%

[normal mist]

I'm green

[errant trail]

[balmy condor]

whenever there's aoe your #1 goal is always generate more energy than you spend

[subtle kiln]

Pink

[balmy condor]

I mean you should be getting more energy than that

[subtle kiln]

trying to identify as Green

[marble hemlock]

youre not my real mom, dont tell me what to do

[balmy condor]

but if you go under 50% at the end of a pack then whatever

[balmy condor]

but generally this is the bible of assa aoe

[normal mist]

What if i put Goth behind that mom?

[errant trail]

yeah stuff ticking also mini mobs dying regenerates energy so yea

[marble hemlock]

believe it or not, but im not that into the goth aesthetic

[subtle kiln]

better chance with 'Metal' Mommy

[normal mist]

Fair

[marble hemlock]

give me a beautiful woman in a sundress and im your man

[limber lion]

Same

[marble hemlock]

or better still

sweatpants and baggy oversized sweater

[real pike]

Look at you guys able to be picky with your women

Madness

[limber lion]

Nope

Definitely not able to

[marble hemlock]

nothing hotter than a girl thats just comfortable being a slob

[limber lion]

That's why I'm single af

[normal mist]

I was the one being picked

[marble hemlock]

match my style

[real pike]

Sometimes you encourage each other too much tho and it gets to silly levels

[marble hemlock]

no such thing

[real pike]

Oh dear

[balmy condor]

seli's so much of a slob he doesn't even want to invite me to his house

[marble hemlock]

that is indeed true

[subtle kiln]

that was by Nova's request

[balmy condor]

we're just gonna have to settle for a long walk on the beach where we hold hands and watch the sunset and I put my head on his shoulder

[subtle kiln]

are you in a sundress?

[normal mist]

he could be

easily

[balmy condor]

I didn't pack one

[marble hemlock]

konstanz doesnt have beaches i think

[subtle kiln]

nude beach time

[balmy condor]

we could go for a long walk on a semi-busy street

[subtle kiln]

just make sure you leave you flip flops in the pile with all the other flip flops

[marble hemlock]

this is about as good as it gets

[normal mist]

thats such a good picture

[marble hemlock]

i mean

its like any picture

it doesnt really look that way cuz colors are enhanced

[limber lion]

Okay finally Wowhead posted about the final bosses and Tindral

Time to update the link

[marble hemlock]

like

the water aint that pretty

sometimes it is

but mostly its not ofc

[limber lion]

No way you can see the bottom of the sea in Germany

Polarized fake pictures gg

[drifting wing]

would be accurate in swiss

[marble hemlock]

well

the top left of that picture is in switzerland technically

[bronze steppe]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• You can add in some sanguine/rupture value from carnage, but chaining allows for higher uptime and smoother energy overall, eliminating a lot of ramp at the start of a pull
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths (chain heavy spiteful weeks are only about -30% on stealths)
• You still have vanish which gives you plenty of options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[lone parrot]

I choose to ignorantly disagree

[balmy condor]

You and plenty of other idiots

[haughty flicker]

just got told my guild wont be raiding in tww

guess i shouldve been working on those guild apps after all

[lone parrot]

[radiant saffron]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[lone parrot]

I don't care about empirical data or evidence. It feels good to restealth

[haughty flicker]

[lone parrot]

[royal lantern]

it will never end it will never end it will never end it will never end

restealths will always be a topic

people will never belive

the voices grow louder

[balmy condor]

Based

Your silly mathematical incantations mean nothing to me you wizard filth

BEGONE

[royal lantern]

oof

atleast rogue is really really really unpopular rn, so not really many people contesting a Spot/quiet a few will look for a rogue

[lone parrot]

[haughty flicker]

maybe its time to retire

and become a catgirl in limsa lominsa

[vale shore]

How do I effectively use the Shadowheart talent? Do I DOT up a pack and then vanish to reap that sweet 3% leech?

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-you-don't-want-to-quit-while-you're-behind-best-quit-now-angry-shadowheart-annoyed-gif-13455415627741304903

[wide ferry]

beta down? new build?

https://tenor.com/view/jon-stewart-eat-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5102037

[spice surge]

Its been down since the before the prepatch maintenance yesterday

[wide ferry]

fack i thought it came back since...

[errant trail]

i’m officially a sanguini boy now

i’ve understood my place and that’s the very low dmg meter area

[near osprey]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• You can add in some sanguine/rupture value from carnage, but chaining allows for higher uptime and smoother energy overall, eliminating a lot of ramp at the start of a pull
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths (chain heavy spiteful weeks are only about -30% on stealths)
• You still have vanish which gives you plenty of options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[errant trail]

fury just does everything i can’t

[white orchid]

area-52 crash?

[errant trail]

[haughty flicker]

ye looks like it lmao

[woeful vault]

I apologize for what I am about to say. Some of you may lose a streak tonight or be reminded of something you forgot long ago…
I just lost the game

[manic harness]

That was 2006 4chan bro, let it go

Free yourself

[rain mortar]

Yes

[slate crown]

You are incorrect, you have won. You can go home to your family now.

[manic harness]

A52 back up now, better log in before the queue

[marble hemlock]

by untalenting it and putting the point somewhere else

shadowheart is about the worst talent they ever made

[woven frost]

I miss Shadow Dance

[unborn yacht]

I thought I would, but did a couple 10-12s and it felt good without it

But I did go double vanish instead of ER

[woven frost]

I actually like ER it just feels a little clunky to play right now for some reason.

[lethal vector]

anyone use the nug combo bar addon? its updated to 11.0 and i noticed its not registering the 7th cp from sanguine stratagem

no matter what i do, it still only shows 6 cp max

[balmy condor]

I didn’t think people used it

Most of the time it’s just cp through weakauras

[waxen oyster]

Or just default

[slim pebble]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[lethal vector]

true. i've just been used to it for a while now. good visibility/sound options

[buoyant schooner]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• You can add in some sanguine/rupture value from carnage, but chaining allows for higher uptime and smoother energy overall, eliminating a lot of ramp at the start of a pull
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths (chain heavy spiteful weeks are only about -30% on stealths)
• You still have vanish which gives you plenty of options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[lethal vector]

hopefully the author fixes that eventually

[buoyant schooner]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[slate crown]

god damn Moroes nyan is getting a workout today 🫡

[haughty flicker]

i have to admit im impressed by the number of pin readers

perhaps my expectations were too low

[heavy sentinel]

Random question. I’d guess no but does atrophic stack with two rogues hitting a boss?

[haughty flicker]

actually apparently it does

[heavy sentinel]

Sick is it gunna be worth to prog with two rogues then?

[limber lion]

It shouldn't stack, no

But yeh

Go ham

Or maybe it should

You never know with Blizz

[haughty flicker]

whispyr said earlier it does

thats all i know of it though

[limber lion]

Yeye it does

But just saying it probably shouldn't

[haughty flicker]

oh you mean it does but shouldnt ye

[limber lion]

It's the only raid buff that does

Windfury is raid wide as well now

[haughty flicker]

yeah i never wouldve thought it stacked, definitely feels like a bug

[lone parrot]

20 rogue raid

[limber lion]

Boss does no dam and then suddenly oneshots everyone

Because Atrophic doesn't reduce environmental damage

[heavy sentinel]

That’d be hilarious

[lone parrot]

works for me

[heavy sentinel]

Who needs two tanks when you can have 15 rogues

[waxen oyster]

idk not hunter

[gilded oasis]

Yo. Tom long time no talk miss you man

[keen mantle]

Is there anything new on beta build ?

1min ago

[honest needle]

does anyone kno if the prepatch even next ween will let us get catchup gear for alots and also level fast for toons thta arent 70 ?

[runic helm]

Are datamined changed actually changing garrote/rupture? Doesn't show what the % used to be

wait mousing over it makes it look like they jsut made us get rupture at level 13 instead of 17 lol

[glass hemlock]

Lord what key is that!

[slate crown]

I've been complaining about this for a while, good

Lmao garrote 11 rupture 13, honestly very good changes for leveling but not what 90% of people care about

98%

[keen mantle]

so its just changes for lvlup?

[runic helm]

ya at least from the datamining

full notes out now

[raven egret]

Yay. Tuning. Shadowheart is still a thing

[keen mantle]

oh wait

thats something

light in the tunnel

[raven egret]

I mean tuning was always going to be a thing, nothing to be surprised or anything about

[honest needle]

does anyone kno if prepatche ven will give faster leveling for alts that arent 70 yet or is it just for gear a few expansions ago u leveled fast for prepatch events ?

[hexed willow]

tuning means that no more big changes though typically right?

[rain mortar]

Some classes got integration and even dev notes on this cycle- we were just not one of them.

Iteration *

[minor aurora]

is it a bad time to pick up sin rogue as my main for an expac?

[raven egret]

It is never a bad time! We offer free initial supply of copium

[honest needle]

is it tru rogues are in a bad place for war within ?

[main monolith]

[minor aurora]

i just have been seeing a lot of dooming especially with the bugs/ hero talents and well really no word from blizzard on anything

[raven egret]

It's only true if you didn't inhale your daily copium intake!

[hollow helm]

Ignore the dooming

Rogues always dooming

[minor aurora]

my guilds basically giving me the last choice i can play rogue or surv hunter

[honest needle]

im looking at alot of tier list and rogues arent doing good

[raven egret]

In all seriousness we are not broken, things are functional and will all be tuned up. We have a lot of micro issues, stuff that needs updating, clarifications, etc. but we'll survive

[honest needle]

not sure if this is true tho

[hollow helm]

Tier lists

[honest needle]

i haventplayed beta

[raven egret]

But we'll live, we are far from perfect, but we'll be fine

We do need iteration down the line hopefully

[honest needle]

also what is the fastest way to level besides remx, cause remix is only fast if u did first play through with i never did

[fleet pagoda]

hero talents are rough, not unique to rogue though. they're fine. if you like rogue it's nbd to pick it up in tww

[minor aurora]

at least middle of the pack right?

[honest needle]

nbd ?

[minor aurora]

i mean im used to being lower, and im not a high end pushing CE guild, just getting CE is sufficient

[fleet pagoda]

still tuning to be done. wouldn't fret about the numbers right now

[raven egret]

If you are asking about parses, that doesn't matter and we'll be tuned up as needed.

None of what I was saying was about DPS numbers

[minor aurora]

fair, i just prefer sin rogue to the other two, and just kind of curious if sin is trolling in that regard or not

[fleet pagoda]

sorry; no big deal*

[honest needle]

does anyone kno the fastest way to level my alts to get them rdy for the new expansion. i have toons i wanna play at level 60 i need to get them to 70 fast

i never played remix. so that wont be an option for me since first play threw is slow

[raven egret]

The negative talk is about our meme hero talents and the stuff that needed iteration that was left untouched. It's not unwarranted, to be fair, but we are not unplayable either

[fleet pagoda]

just doing the DF main story is pretty quick, if they're at 60

[raven egret]

Rogue is not new player friendly at the very least

[minor aurora]

okay thank you for the info, and ive consistently played rogue every tier but as an alt/for fun so i understand the rotation but will read up more

[manic harness]

When to Crimson Tempest?

[honest needle]

what is an easy class to play for an alt thats good dps for new expansion

[raven egret]

What... Is the question?

[raven egret]

Good DPS is up in the air right now, tuning will keep happening.

Don't let "good DPS" dictate your choice

[manic harness]

Just not sure how much uptime I need to make CT cast worth it

[raven egret]

Uhm, in aoe, CT, especially if you run sudden demise.

[fleet pagoda]

if you're playing Sudden Demise it's usually worth casting

[raven egret]

Otherwise that's up to you to figure out if stuff live long enough in the content you do to be worth

[honest needle]

@raven egret what is an easy class to play for an alt tho that dont have a hard rotation ?

[fleet pagoda]

but if you have like three targets, one at half health and two at 10% health, skip CT and slam the envenoms. normally CT is the play but knowing not when to send it will require some experimentation and experience

[raven egret]

Ret pally, fury warrior, BM hunter... Plenty of them, ask the various class discord

And better yet try them

[delicate orbit]

Ret Paladin but you're going to be a dime a dozen

[raven egret]

I mean if you trying to be a unique unicorn, playing the wrong game

[lusty narwhal]

Nice buffs but still not addressing deathbringer clunk

feelsbad

[honest needle]

I like rogue but i dont wanna invest more time if we are going to be shit

i could be wrong but even this expansion season 4 i felt so many dps were way ahead of us

maybe just because they were rnaged and pallys

[lusty narwhal]

odnt think we'll be 'shit' its just uninspired

full passive talents mostly

no flare

[honest needle]

will our dmg be competative tho

or will we get gapped

[fleet pagoda]

idk about we, but you're asking questions that have no answer

[waxen oyster]

Let me ask the magic 8 ball

also depends on what content

[junior aurora]

!8 will our damage be competitive

oh i guess moroes only works in ot one sec

answered

[honest needle]

for m plus

[waxen oyster]

I'm going to be honest

If you're viewing tierlist videos unironically

[honest needle]

cause season 4 we got gapped my locks and palys

[waxen oyster]

Rogue will be good enough

[solid ice]

anyone got a talent import for new tree

[lusty narwhal]

No we didnt?

[placid adder]

Sin gapped ppl

In season 4

[waxen oyster]

We did not get gapped by rets?

What

[placid adder]

Was hidden by god comp

[waxen oyster]

Sin and outlaw were both good unironically

[raven egret]

You are asking an impossible question you know, all we can tell you is we're still fully functional, no reason to believe we can't be good. Rest hinges on tuning

[junior aurora]

well when you dont touch anything above a +10 i can see getting gapped by pally

[waxen oyster]

Nah I gapped 90% of pallies I ran with

No idea how you're getting gapped

[fleet pagoda]

unless you're doing bleeding edge keys I wouldn't worry about m+ meta. just play what you have fun with.

[waxen oyster]

You know what's really weird

beating rets on boss damage as vdh

ret brain go brrrr

[placid adder]

Divine storming the boss

[honest needle]

i saw warlocks doing 6-8 mill on pulls

was insane

[waxen oyster]

sustained dps?

Yeah stop watching yt clips all day

[raven egret]

Numbers will remain all over the place throughout pre patch that's for sure

[waxen oyster]

Idk s4 was a decent time as either sin or outlaw

[honest needle]

no on certain pulls but on pulls when they do 8mjill by the ned of dungeon they way ahead on metors

[waxen oyster]

good ol boon torch combo was back on outlaw

[waxen oyster]

Yeah lashers in AA

8m damage wasn't even that much on overall damage done?

Am I tripping....

[delicate orbit]

Why do you care so much about tier lists and meters

[runic hinge]

How high keys do you do

What is your current and best io

[waxen oyster]

Most people who religiously look at tierlists do weekly vault key levels

[slate crown]

Hey I only do weekly vault key levels

[delicate orbit]

I tested something like 15 specs today and was surprised at how fluid and pleasant it was to play assassination without Shadow dance. I'm a big fan of ER and am happy to see it back in the rotation. The addition of spike is great too.

I thought I was going to main elemental but I feel pulled to assassination because it's just plainfun.

[slate crown]

[mighty rapids]

If you pug a lot its important cause if ppl think ur class sucks ur gonna waste a ton of time looking for grp

[slate crown]

[slate crown]

Reminder you can go to shadowlands to get the glyph to make look cooler

[gusty mirage]

Fun fact, if you play a dps spec you’re going to waste a ton of time looking for a group either way

[delicate orbit]

Preach

[waxen oyster]

Solution dont pug

Also shadow dance was awkward af for sin

[mighty rapids]

Wow so ez thanks 😄

[gusty mirage]

Because you and 100 other dps are vying for that spot

[delicate orbit]

Right? I'm so glad it's gone

[waxen oyster]

fun fact if you're pugging keys

your ilvl matters more 9/10 times

[gusty mirage]

Funner fact, pugging is painful

[waxen oyster]

REAL

[gusty mirage]

So so so painful

[mighty rapids]

Nah if youre a high IO mage for example u get invited really easily because ur range plus bring lust

[raven egret]

Funniest fact, shadowheart is a node

[mighty rapids]

Harder for meele

[delicate orbit]

Pugging is awful.

[gusty mirage]

Nah we pretend it doesn’t exist

[runic hinge]

I mean just get good

[gusty mirage]

If I close my eyes it can’t hurt me

[runic hinge]

Be better than the mage

And they’ll take you

[waxen oyster]

I'm gonna keep it real, if someone is asking for lust in a vault key

[runic hinge]

Have higher io and better Ilvl

[waxen oyster]

that group is shit

[delicate orbit]

This is junk. I have a 515 Aug with Lego and would still get declined from goofy pug groups. It's just shit.

[runic hinge]

Bring drums too

[errant trail]

i stand by my ways

i wont stop sinnin

[delicate orbit]

But then again I hit 2k Io and go to the next char

[waxen oyster]

Also im going to be honest

i hate pugging with aug if i dont know for sure the other dps player is good

because if he sucks

deadge

[gusty mirage]

I think I summed up shadowheart very well here

[delicate orbit]

I've out dpsed a few DPS as Aug. We didn't time. Felt like a waste

[waxen oyster]

Yeah

also i hate pug mages

[delicate orbit]

The worst

[waxen oyster]

95% of them do tank damage

[mighty rapids]

Shows that perception is important tho...ur bringing mage cause theyre a mage and u know "mage good class"

[waxen oyster]

No i literally decline mages

unless they raid in a good guild

[vale shore]

what if there are locked doors in the dungeon though!? They NEED us!

[waxen oyster]

[gusty mirage]

Okay so it’s not me

[waxen oyster]

I also decline any ret without lego

tbh

[gusty mirage]

Every fucking mage pug that’s high ilvl or high io is more boosted than a gacha game gem shop

[runic hinge]

Pug mages will get beat by the tank 75% of the time

[delicate orbit]

I've literally never been putting together a group and thought "we really need a mage"

[fleet pagoda]

pug mages are anomalies. no other class can regularly play so bad and get so far

[mighty rapids]

Its just an example im not saying mages are needed by any means lmao

[waxen oyster]

REAL

[delicate orbit]

Usually if a feral druid or rogue signs up though, they're going to be decent if not gods

[marble hemlock]

idk bud, i can open in m+, dot everything up with IC, then vanish and stay in stealth afk while healing for a whopping 2% of my DPS

[gusty mirage]

They’re either the best player to ever touch mage or hot ass dogshit, with zero in between

[fleet pagoda]

massive true. gods or asleep at the wheel, only absolutes. but only like 1 in 100 invites are the former

[gusty mirage]

You’re just mad my description was better than yours

[raven egret]

Gigabrain move, what a perfect usage of vanish, it's art!

[waxen oyster]

Although I've seen alot of bad bm hunters

which blows my mind since

how tf can you suck at bm

[marble hemlock]

define better

[delicate orbit]

But pet do all damage. Why press multi shot?

[gusty mirage]

Penis

[marble hemlock]

compare your description to mine in the talents explained

https://i.imgur.com/nv3echv.jpeg

i didnt even bother to add it

[waxen oyster]

True multishot no good

also what does shadowheart do again

[delicate orbit]

Don't worry about it

[gusty mirage]

Damn yours is better

[marble hemlock]

wait

why is that image block not loading

https://tenor.com/view/sherlockholmes-gif-22362331

[delicate orbit]

"Rogues are sure to love an additional 2% leech while stealthed"

[waxen oyster]

Wow would be crazy if other classes had a 3% leech at all time node

[gusty mirage]

Hey Jimmy the intern worked hard on that talent

[waxen oyster]

OH WAIT......

[gusty mirage]

We have leeching poison

[delicate orbit]

Moar leech

[marble hemlock]

i just

genuinely dont understand that node like

[waxen oyster]

could be worse sub rogues have 100% movespeed during shroud

[marble hemlock]

was it created because somebody thought "oh, rogues have stealth, surely they spend a fair amount of time in combat in stealth"

[gusty mirage]

It’s okay, neither does the person who wrote it up

[delicate orbit]

Just think. Someone had to justify that garbage in a pull request

[waxen oyster]

very useful throughput talent

[marble hemlock]

like, did somebody think we spend like 30% of combat in stealth or smth

[delicate orbit]

uwu

[raven egret]

Nah, it was created because nodes were removed and nobody has any idea and no time left to work on it

[runic hinge]

They just wanted to reference bg3 best grill and also make the talent useless

[gusty mirage]

Also whoever decided to leave sepsis in for sub

I hate them

With the entirety of my soul

[waxen oyster]

That one intern they have on rogue

[marble hemlock]

whats your soul like

[waxen oyster]

worked very hard on shadowheart

[delicate orbit]

I'm very happy with bone spike

[gusty mirage]

Idk anymore man

[marble hemlock]

does it have a soulussy?

[gusty mirage]

It’s withering away with the new job

So you better hurry up

[marble hemlock]

didnt your old job make it wither too?

sounds like an extended issue, not a new one

[gusty mirage]

No, that made my mental wither because I was broke all the time

[marble hemlock]

hm fair

[gusty mirage]

I actually got to help people

[marble hemlock]

youre helping people in here all the time

[gusty mirage]

I come in here make fun of shadowheart and deathstinker and leave lmao

Wdym help people

[marble hemlock]

so is deathstinker the new word for it or?

i havent kept up

[gusty mirage]

Either that or poopstalker

Eleem came up with deathstinker

[marble hemlock]

i like deathstinker more

i also like eleem

[gusty mirage]

Same

@spice surge is the best

[spice spire]

Same

He is my raichu goat

[gusty mirage]

He shares delicious food with us in #1203397195588435999

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/Ekqet8F.jpeg

the good ol days

of wiping on uunat for 400 pulls, only for eleem to come in from the bench and kill it within like 13 pulls with us

[gusty mirage]

The Eleemo diffy

[marble hemlock]

then on the rekill