assassination

[gusty mirage]

but for you to dismiss it by saying "You can't tell the difference I guarantee it"

[limber lion]

That's not what I asked

Do you feel Venom Rush by itself

[gusty mirage]

oh so we're moving the goal posts now

got it

[limber lion]

What

[cunning magnet]

Lol

[limber lion]

Of course you feel a difference when you remove everything

[gusty mirage]

okay

you're right cev and I'm wrong

[limber lion]

But do you feel a difference when using venom rush and without?

What?

What are you doing man?

Come on

[gusty mirage]

I'm letting you win

you win

[limber lion]

That's not what we're here for

I wanna talk why won't yoy

[gusty mirage]

you literally just told this person that you GUARANTEE they can't tell the difference between dashing being bugged and not being bugged

[cunning magnet]

Facts

[limber lion]

Yeah

[gusty mirage]

when venom rush was deleted

and half of your remaining passive energy talents don't work

how does someone "not tell the difference"?

[limber lion]

Of course you feel a difference then when you remove SO MUCH at once

But that's again not one single thing

[gusty mirage]

I'm not going to sit here and split hairs

you win bro

[cunning magnet]

I mean just hearing that I'm not the only one experiencing this was enough for me

[limber lion]

I think I've heard yoy say that you can't feel Venom Rush

50 or 45 energy

It's the same

Why are you talking about removing everything?

[gusty mirage]

because it is?

venom rush doesn't exist

[limber lion]

When I'm only talking about a singular talent

[gusty mirage]

and dashing doesn't work

[limber lion]

:/

I don't like this

Why can't you just answer the question?

Why do you attack me

Not cool

I feel like the common consensus has always been that you do not feel the difference between no Venom Rush or with

Idk why that is so radical all of a sudden

[grim jay]

I think you both just took a different angle to look at the issue

[limber lion]

The reason I asked about VR is because it's the same energy gain as Dashing

[grim jay]

Oxi looked at it like live vs beta and you only looked at having VR vs not having VR

Maybe

[limber lion]

So if you cannot feel thw removal of Venom Rush, you wouldn't feel the removal of Dashing

But you will definitely feel the difference if you remove em all

That's a fact and for sure

[thorn fjord]

Scoundrels

[cunning magnet]

Thanks @gusty mirage

[blazing jewel]

🗿

[royal lantern]

i can feel the venom rush

(lack of caffein)

[blazing jewel]

Yes

[thorn fjord]

Just had a triple shot of expresso... Have some of mine

[primal jolt]

i desperately need to restock on caffeine

im feeling like a corpse

if only it actually gave me a kick nowdays anyway

I developed immunity to it

now i just overdose on caffeine and start shaking Infront of my pc 😎

[grim jay]

Just dont consume any for some weeks and start anew

[primal jolt]

but withdrawals suck

and i cant play sin without being overdosed on caffeine

[tawdry dust]

!fu

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[grim jay]

I guess thats why people try not to get addicted/used to stuff in the first place

[nimble zinc]

You might wanna see a doctor about that mate.

[primal jolt]

i already did

they didn't find anything

[dark token]

Facts

They should have replaced Doomblade with deeper also(useless talent) rather than VR which was kinda nice

[drowsy lotus]

Sorry for the dumb question but what’s the buff we’re trying to apply with shiv before using kingsbane? The increased nature damage that lasts 5 seconds?

[viscid light]

Deathmark, though its not 5 seconds its like 16

And it increases bleeds and poisons

[normal mist]

You should try remix

[gusty mirage]

they should've replaced doomblade with a talent that made your character dance and it'd be more useful

at least you'd get a chuckle out of that talent

[dark token]

What's that one talent that makes a little light orb float up

And u could spam it for corruption procs

It was like discover or distract or something

Detection

[gusty mirage]

detection

ye

lmfao

[dark token]

Completely non functional or

[gusty mirage]

doesn't work at all rn afaik

scratch that

[royal lantern]

Does 0 changes

still breaks stuff

[dark token]

I'll take this tradeoff

Wait nvm isn't the stack cap easy to reach

[rotund oak]

hi

[spice surge]

The energy has been fixed (could be some talent combo that breaks it, but i got it to work atleast)

The crit is still bricked

[gusty mirage]

[gusty mirage]

neat

[spice surge]

Btw that bug isnt only on beta

The kingsbane stack one

Its been active since atleast s4 on live, probably longer

[dark token]

[gusty mirage]

🍝

[dark token]

And surprisingly sin still not op in keys

[primal jolt]

hello deathstalkers

https://tenor.com/view/dog-ocean-pensive-thinking-sad-gif-27364531

[errant swallow]

Basically. I started a dh yesterday

[primal jolt]

feral druid for me

hoping I'll get the hang of

[blazing jewel]

[thorn fjord]

!fuu

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[rotund oak]

🫶

[dark token]

When they cooked the talent tree so long they overcooked and burnt it

[thorn fjord]

tree so bad its got people wanting to play Feral

[vestal wren]

they should have spend some time cooking the baseline tree more

[mighty bay]

So kidney shot doesn't work on incorps? Tried to be the first and last ccër, still breaks

[spice surge]

It works for 6 seconds

[mighty bay]

so only blind removes it

?

[spice surge]

Yep

[mighty bay]

crap, thanks

[silk bane]

can we get a !theVision command that just pulls up this bug log?

[primal jolt]

day 1 of playing feral druid

i miss rogue

[vital wasp]

which talents are you guys going to use for m+ testing today on beta?

[primal jolt]

random bullshit go

for me at least

[dark token]

Sins base tree is still pretty good imo but sub is a travesty

And the class tree got a lot worse with the 2x vanish talent

[silk bane]

taking double vanish and dust is within 0.6% of no dust build. have fun!

[dark token]

Arguably that's where it should be

[vestal wren]

i mentioned it earlier in the #tww-subtlety

[silk bane]

maybe, theres some interesting options. one dust one vanish is decently worse, but also its playing quite poorly with old apl

could become competitive with a few adjustments

[vestal wren]

it is a bit of a tagety that the focus is on power level and making sure big issues are fixed

[silk bane]

but also its all with 30 second dust. if it becomes 10/20 it instnatly dies probably

[vestal wren]

it is comparably a very corparate approach

because there is little value put to fun, the general picture or how well things fit together

feels a lot more like making a checklist what to do for "release"

tho i might read too much into it, it is overall a official post and these tend to be worded more carefully

[silk bane]

i think youre reading a little too much into it

this was a general post

made for all classes

and for almost all classes and hero talents the design is mostly done, they just wanna beware oft he things they mentioned

Im h(c)oping that theyre aware of the issues with fatebound and deathstalker and can fix it

specially deathstalker

same with trickster, trickster alsmo has 0 aoe interactions outside of an amp u cant proc

which is exactly tyhis issue

[vestal wren]

exactly

just to be clear

focusing on feedback for the hero talents is probably good

but esp. with posts detailing that hero talents won't get reworks and no official statement over awareness of bigger issues like deathstalker

its unclear what is within scope anymore

[silk bane]

thats fair, the lack of communication is prtty frustraiting. idk imo it causes more doom for no reason

[gusty mirage]

wdym they've been nothing short of innovating, interesting, and fully functioning

[vestal wren]

as much as there is outrage about the deathstalker

it is mostly functional

i am not saying that as a good or bad thing

[spice surge]

Darkest night decreasing damage done

But atleast the proc exists ig

[vestal wren]

haha fair

its a non issue, because subtelty can't proc it 😛

[marsh venture]

Hi, I'm looking for a little help understanding this.
During my Multi-target rotation after I hit my big cool downs (deathmark, shadowdance, kingsbane) I see blue indicators on Garrote and Rupture.

Should I re-apply these cooldowns or leave it blue?

I'm just a little confused when it comes to the empowered procs

[gusty mirage]

iirc the blue indicators are that they're empowered, so you'd let them run out before reapplying either

[slate crown]

The blue indicators means that the current effect is empowered, and if you reapply over them, chance are it will remove the empowered effect, so you want them to run out

I assume at least

I'm not familiar with that WA pack

[marsh venture]

Ahh thank you for the answers, that helps a lot!

https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m

[slate crown]

Ah Devlin's yeah

[marsh venture]

I believe that's the one I use

So just to confirm. DON'T reapply Rupture and Garrote after deathmark, shadowdance, kingsbane?

[blazing jewel]

Devlins uses blue for an empowered dot

[slate crown]

Correct. Tho, rupture is not that important regarding empowering. Technically it's better to preserved the empowered one and not reapply but rupture is a low % of damage so it's really whatever. Garrote is the more important one

[marsh venture]

Great, I think I got it. Thank you all very much for the help

[unreal parcel]

!fuu

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[gusty mirage]

Devlin's the goat

@white lance you da best

[spice surge]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• You can add in some sanguine/rupture value from carnage, but chaining allows for higher uptime and smoother energy overall, eliminating a lot of ramp at the start of a pull
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths (chain heavy spiteful weeks are only about -30% on stealths)
• You still have vanish and shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[thorn fjord]

Btw are raids fixed?

Or is shit still jacked up

[gilded oasis]

Your mom's fixed

Gottem

[thorn fjord]

My moms dead bro

She broken af

[gilded oasis]

Sounds fixed to me

Tbh

[thorn fjord]

Based

[gilded oasis]

Wasn't there supposed to be maintenance today to fix stuff? Or did that happen or uhhh

Idk man I'm a Remix main

[thorn fjord]

Maintenance did happen

Haven’t checked to see if it fixed shit tho

Guess I gotta log on

[gilded oasis]

I'd guess it's good then but it IS blizzard

Man I hate guild appin. This is why I've been in the same job for 10 years I hate applying for shit and interviewing

[slate crown]

Yeah it's absolutely awful

[shy pecan]

Wut, you leaving your guild?

[slate crown]

I was at the same place for 9 years and had to change and the search is soul crushing

[thorn fjord]

I always said id quit the game if my guild fell apart

[frozen tundra]

hey im a rogue main but just came back to wow and was wondering if assa or outlaw does more dmg in keys?
overall, st and aoe all in question^

[next dust]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[thorn fjord]

OL def the meta M+ play but Sin works too

Sin better on ST

[ancient tangle]

Tight Spender is better than Ambush for single target ?

[spice surge]

Yes

[gusty mirage]

the meta M+ is no rogue

so

[tacit charm]

real and true

[slate crown]

Both good and acceptable have fun

[ancient tangle]

it was for me ? ^^

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/paimon-genshin-impact-gif-3908335895994298600

[gusty mirage]

unlucky not a shadow priest

gl hf

[gusty mirage]

I met ur mom

got em

[drifting cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-as-that-clash-royale-hee-hee-hee-haw-gif-25054781

[slate crown]

[runic hinge]

damn that was what i was gonna say

[tacit charm]

https://tenor.com/view/rotating-skull-gif-24524852

[gusty mirage]

dw I'm sure rework #183747383838 since legion will make them bad again

[runic hinge]

they just make PL do 15% again and suddenly they dont have aoe

[gusty mirage]

bro leave publik alone

stop asking for his spec to get nerfed

the poor guy has to rewrite his guides 18 times an expansion already

[runic hinge]

I’ve been playing some spriest this patch tbh.

Most visually appealing spec

[gusty mirage]

you're visually appealing

[runic hinge]

I just dunno if I can play ranged

Thank you for the compliment oxi

Their hero talents are looking alright, definitely better than Assas rn but I go and do a dungeon and don’t do well and I’m like I should just go back to rogue lol

[spice surge]

Im still on the cope that deathstalker is so bad and non-functional that its gonna get some attention

But probably less than we'd like

[royal lantern]

the expansion releases in roughly 8 weeks

🙂

and they didnt even mention rogue once

[ancient tangle]

If ambush crits with Improved Ambush isn't it a 4 cp ambush ?

[proven jasper]

I have pretty high confidence they will atleast touch it, but yeah, who knows to what extent.

[dark token]

You don't take improved ambush tho

That's the point

[ancient tangle]

yes i understood but this was to compare with improved ambush

so its the same cp generation than with improved ambush if i understand

or nearly the same

dont get me wrong i agree with you that always mutilate is better ^^

[gilded oasis]

Yeah unfort

[spice spire]

Elitist jerk no more unluigi

[runic hinge]

No more jerking

[gilded oasis]

Oh I'll always jerk don't worry

[blazing jewel]

[gilded oasis]

Coming soon to a OF near you

[blazing jewel]

[runic hinge]

Damn. Zar is hard up for money

Times are tough

[gilded oasis]

I'm just trying to get willow treste

Treats

I'm drunk help

[royal lantern]

hi drunk

[runic hinge]

Drunk? This early on a Thursday? Damn. I’m jelly

[spice spire]

Hey drunk I’m quake how can I help big dog

[royal lantern]

by giving willow treats

[gilded oasis]

Woof

[spice spire]

I’d give her infinite treats

[gilded oasis]

Yeah it's lunch and musical day with my mom

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/reari-dog-barking-koreaboomina-bblmina-gif-24010279

[runic hinge]

I’m about to be 10 minutes late to work so now I’m extra jealous

[gilded oasis]

Gross I'm sorry for your loss

[gilded oasis]

[spice spire]

Have fun homie

[runic hinge]

I’m taking a 3 day weekend so I just gotta survive tonight

[gilded oasis]

You got this dawg

[spice spire]

I believe in u king

[runic hinge]

It’s just the post office. I’ll manage

[gilded oasis]

Don't go postal

Kekw

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/newman-seinfeld-mail-mailman-cancel-gif-18114203

[runic hinge]

Not even allowed to say that in the building

[gilded oasis]

Gotttem

[primal jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188206897560571915/1250918510985613468/VID_72531001_012749_091.mp4?ex=666cb025&is=666b5ea5&hm=276f27c519ca41833170d47cbf380d0330a7385ae85bd11c7a06380c5c9a6d5c&

bro this shit

is fucking

hilarious

LMAO

my humor is ruined

[proven jasper]

Im DEAD LMAO

Fucking illuminated sigils man

perfectly balanced

[cerulean maple]

One of my friends holds CT for during KB burst window, intead of casting it before or after, under the assumption that it counts as a lethal poison for the sake of KB damage. This doesn't seem right to me, but who';s right?

I cast CT before i set up for KB burst window, and I've seen people do it after as well (to get to splatter kb burst faster), but never using a global during kb to get use CT

[spice surge]

CT is a bleed, its not a lethal poison

The lethal poisons for KB are your weapon poisons only

(most spells you press has a chance to apply them though)

[cerulean maple]

KB is also a poison right? or is KB a bleed

i dont remember

i rember it dealing nature damage

[spice surge]

It does nature damage and scales with your mastery yes

For the most part, poisons only refer to the effects youve applied on your weapons, so deadly/amplifying/instant/wound(lol)

[latent copper]

which poisions do you use this week with sanguine?

[spice surge]

Same as always, you never use wound as assa

Too big of a dps loss

[latent copper]

but mobs get slowed then. is it not bad?

[spice surge]

Then dont apply crippling

[latent copper]

that what i meain....you dont apply crippling and only play with 3?

[storm forum]

Play with a mage and blame them for slowing things

[glass hemlock]

Anyone have trouble upgrading gear?

[primal jolt]

hello doomers

[primal jolt]

yes it was an issue earlier today on NA

[glass hemlock]

Been fixed? 😂

It was yesterday for me in oce

[clear plover]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

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[gusty mirage]

Should be now ye

[dark token]

This should be vengeance

Not havoc symbol

[runic hinge]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• You can add in some sanguine/rupture value from carnage, but chaining allows for higher uptime and smoother energy overall, eliminating a lot of ramp at the start of a pull
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths (chain heavy spiteful weeks are only about -30% on stealths)
• You still have vanish and shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[royal lantern]

@north granite here

[heavy sentinel]

can you macro ashes with deathmark?

or KB?

[slate crown]

You can do either yes

[heavy sentinel]

should I macro it?

[slate crown]

If you don't like manually pressing it, yeah

[balmy condor]

Macro to kb ideally for raid, in m+ some people macro to dm to avoid desyncing

[heavy sentinel]

thats what i thought so it would sync every other use

[balmy condor]

yeah except casting with deathstalker is slightly worse numerically

can really do whatever do

[runic hinge]

Deathmark*. Too much beta for you smh my head

[haughty flicker]

living rent free

[balmy condor]

[ivory tusk]

can anyone tell me why the Diff between both builds for mythic+?

[ivory tusk]

more like nerfing Mage or Spriest

[dark token]

I need to sim fragment on ashes vs kingsbane macro

Been taking it for a lot of fights recently

[autumn frost]

Did they change how mutilate and ambush work?

Just read a message that you can't avoid the procced ambush anymore in the first place

[balmy condor]

blindside replaces mutilate in your spell book

so you're forced to consume ambush procs

[autumn frost]

Oh so I've been pressing a different button for no reason

every time i procced ambush

[balmy condor]

correct

[dark token]

Left build sucks

Right build good

That's the diff

Wait

W

T

F

Is this

Why did you pick twist the knife

One of the worst talents in the whole tree

Pls take iron wire, or if you must skip iron wire for dps, take improved poisons or the FoK talent/venom rush

[ivory tusk]

the left one was the build i got suggest, and the right one is the build one rogue was playing in the key i did

[dark token]

Left build isn't good cause the arterial precision just beats 1 scent point generally

And don't play cleave builds until 15+

Just play this pls

Bonus: you won't slow mobs for sanguine week

[nimble zinc]

Neither of these are the correct arterial shock build for M+. Both are missing iron wire. And you always want sudden demise with arterial precision. You don’t need dragon tempered blades unless it’s like a high tyrannical key like above a +12

[nimble zinc]

This is the correct build for M+.

[glass hemlock]

Is there a “max” amount of targets we want to try keep uptime for garrote and rupture?

[glass hemlock]

Do you run instant and numbing poison with this build?

[spice surge]

Deadly

Spec is unplayable without deadly

[glass hemlock]

Deadly and numbing? Okay sick cause that’s what I’ve been using hahahaha

Thank god

[slate crown]

Simple quick answer is 5

Because of scent stacks

More complicated answer is “enough so you don’t run out of energy anymore”

[glass hemlock]

Roger, I’ll be on soonish and will do some looking into it. I’ve got my ST and up to 3 mobs down pretty well so need to look into bigger aoe

[lament belfry]

Is there a damage amp at the end of the echo of neltharion fight?

[balmy condor]

no but there is PAAAAAAAAAAAAD

give me those little purple chicken nuggets my caustic spatter must feast

[lament belfry]

Okaaaay, that explains it hahaha

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dm76zC8AGTxj9WK3#fight=35&type=damage-done&source=23

Is this log good, purely because of pad?

[balmy condor]

yeh kinda

being able to shit on the 4:30 adds giga hard is kinda the strat if you want to parse

[lament belfry]

Thanks for the info man, your youtube vids on aoe and situational openers are amazingly helpful

[balmy condor]

gotchu homie

[glass hemlock]

Love when I get 1.5 hours to play while my son naps and I have 2k ping 😭

[lament belfry]

What are bis M+ trinkets looking like

[earnest remnant]

ashes and grief

[distant hinge]

J

[frozen tundra]

just started playing assa and been doing research for a couple hours... in m+ when do you stop prioritising spreading garrotes/ruptures over keeping up the 4pc?

unless its possible to keep 100% uptime on garrotes, ruptures, crimson tempest, caustic splatter + 4pc plus initially spreading them without dropping 4pc?

[earnest remnant]

when you dont need the energy

[frozen tundra]

so its not mandatory to keep it up on as many as possible over the other stuff like envenoms 4pc etc?

[slate crown]

The goal of bleed spread is to saturate you with energy returns

[frozen tundra]

ive only ever played it in raid so my experience is from sub so its diff

[slate crown]

Also with Scent of blood, getting 5 ruptures out for the agi buff

[frozen tundra]

and garrote on cd in every situation?

if there's a target without i mean

[slate crown]

If you are saturated, that is you aren't running out of energy, then no

[next dust]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[ashen oriole]

Can someone remind me how to sim custom APL again?

[limber lion]

What is it that you want to sim?

[jaunty stone]

why is night elf best for assa? other races sim higher for assa just like for every other spec but NE is only best for assa?

[limber lion]

It's really not, idk where you read that

It's all preference, differences are super minimal

For my profile Human is the best which I fuck with anyways

[storm forum]

Big tall elves are cool. And Shadowmeld is a more fun and unique racial than any of the others. Also restealth/combat drop can be super useful in m+.

But the other races have their upsides too.

[grim jay]

Probably pvp

As in reading the race suggestion that was based on pvp

If there was any "best" race it would probably be dwarf

And I hate to say it

[jaunty stone]

on wowhead and on murlok.io its the most popular assa race

[grim jay]

Just because its the most popular doesnt mean its the best

Races dont matter is the reality

Many people just like the meld

[jaunty stone]

if most top players use it then there is something to it but im just asking why cuz it doesnt make sense to me why its more popular on assa specifiacally

[grim jay]

Races are totally subjective

[limber lion]

It's always been the sneaky race thematically and popular among rogues

All 10+ years

[royal lantern]

mate

people are just generic losers and play elves, aka "totally not a human"

thats all lol

[limber lion]

Nothing else to it. The Shadowmeld allowing for stealth makes sense for a rogue thematically

[vestal wren]

for what its worth, any fantasy setting even with the most badass races will have 90% of players select a human

[grim jay]

That aside, id not follow any higher rated player blindly anyways. There are quite a few that do questionable stuff or objectively wrong stuff even

[vestal wren]

the idea of beeing a human in a fantasy world is more relatable, and people love to represent humanity

you see this in wow and most other games, human and human likes (elves) are more than 50% of the population

[jaunty stone]

why dont they play it on sub or outlaw then why only assa? Im just trying to see the benefit and the reason why its not like it matters at the end of the day

[glacial stump]

Do most sin players macro SD/KB together?

[grim jay]

Maybe because assassination has the least access to stealth otherwise

Might be a reason

[royal lantern]

there is no benefit lol

[grim jay]

Might aswell just look like it because most people play sin

[grim jay]

Probably

[royal lantern]

man, i got rank1 logs as vulpera, which counts as the "worst" race

race is a meme

[vestal wren]

e.g. Top 3 with quite a distance - source

[royal lantern]

like, a meme so deeply in the ground, its really just idiotic at this point

[jaunty stone]

well clrearly there is some no matter how small id like to know thats why im asking its not like its illegal but sure feels like it

[glacial stump]

Human male for the perfect fitting mogs

[glacial stump]

Bro everyones said there no befit

[jaunty stone]

but yeah that makes sense

[royal lantern]

you literally have the number jockeys telling you rn that there is no realistic benefit

[vestal wren]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[glacial stump]

"do you have any of these in the back"
"no"
"but can you just check"

[vestal wren]

worse race is ~1.5% behind

[royal lantern]

people are boring and most of them play human/elves (aka human with pointy ears) in almost all fantasy settings

aka more repesentation

aka more people at the higher end

[vestal wren]

whats not a ignorable amount of damage if you min/max

[royal lantern]

thats the science behind it

[grim jay]

Well the benefit is that you can meld, whatever you wanna do with that. But considering dwarf is way more useful, but still less popular, you can see how that doesnt matter at all. Its just what they like to play

You used to be able to cheese mechanics with meld

[vestal wren]

a lot of people play dwarf for bleed removal

or nightelf for shadowmelt

[grim jay]

Its just not much of a thing currently

And ppl dont change races frequently

[clever sapphire]

undead ftw

[spice surge]

Dwarf has bleed removal and big dps stonks

[vestal wren]

^

there are also some comfort choices people don't want to lose

[grim jay]

Its a transfer, not removal

[glacial stump]

Plus the race % counts for EVERY rogue, not just the good ones, whos opinions are the ones youre asking for.

[vestal wren]

e.g. some people would rather not play the game than losing shadowmelt

[spice surge]

Huh

[grim jay]

Because your eyes bleed in return

[spice surge]

Oh

[royal lantern]

thats a good one

[vestal wren]

just make a femal dwarf 😏

[grim jay]

People would get way too distracted

[vestal wren]

tbh if you want to hate on something

what is mechagnome

why is it a playable race, thats criminal

[royal lantern]

cus blizz hates us

[grim jay]

Dwarfs in all forms, gnomes in all forms and tauren in all forms are criminal

[royal lantern]

mechagnomes are warcrimes given form

(but the swimming animation is cool)

[vestal wren]

how can they swim

metal is heavy

[clever sapphire]

ships can swim and they are made of metal

checkmate

[turbid harbor]

it might be human time for me 🤔

i never use the void elf racial

[royal lantern]

their arms turn into little rotating blades

😄

[grim jay]

Due to the vast amount of air in their head aswell

[vestal wren]

https://tenor.com/view/titan-titan-submersible-submarine-titanic-titanic-sub-gif-3157031911202859290

[vestal wren]

^ look i found a mechagnome in the wild

[royal lantern]

god i love rich idiots doing very smart things

[fringe oxide]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[glacial stump]

I swapped to void elf, swapped straight back

[vestal wren]

voidelf is nice for transmog

[turbid harbor]

i went void elf as soon as horde and alliance could be in guilds together and have enjoyed it

but human is goated

[royal lantern]

you also like water and white toast, right

[glacial stump]

The skinny arms/legs just make shoulders look huge man

[royal lantern]

[spice surge]

I like looking stupid because people get upset

[turbid harbor]

i went tauren for the first raid but found myself using the atomic recalibrator thing all the time

[vestal wren]

this months travelers log catalougue should help you a lot with that

[turbid harbor]

was too stupid for me

[spice surge]

Nah its too stupid

[royal lantern]

there is only 1 transmog rule i have

instantly remove everyone that is using Thunderfury

[spice surge]

My goal is to look like im 8 and trying to make a cool transmog

[royal lantern]

they WILL int so hard, its incredible

[spice surge]

But it just looks dumb

[vestal wren]

i forgot to remove the back, but well

[gusty mirage]

okay former panda man

[spice surge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1076534008231501874/1156636430827790407/image.png?ex=666d1fde&is=666bce5e&hm=baa2fd13f75eb6b1d0e74e8a7d63ee3d166461c42e2e98a8331052261c11540c&

[gusty mirage]

panda eleem is the best timeline

[spice surge]

I go on the calibrator until i roll panda male

[gusty mirage]

I do it until I'm a cow

cause /moo is bis

[gusty mirage]

I miss panda eleem

[spice surge]

Tell blizzard to make better buff food

So its not a dps warcrime to be panda

[gusty mirage]

we can't even tell blizzard to make better hero trees

[vestal wren]

could be worse, could be undead

[gusty mirage]

female undead has a cool finisher animation

so you have that going for you

[vestal wren]

-1.5% dps

but a nice animation

great deal

[gusty mirage]

oh you can breathe underwater permanently

[next dust]

Swapped to orc already thinking what’s next 😂

[gusty mirage]

that's not quite as useful anymore

but ya know

it's neat

[vestal wren]

yes

you can also:

• Not remove most charm effects, even if the effect name is "charm" with will of the forsaken
• Die from "drown" in throne of tights
• only remove 50% of sleep effects

[next dust]

Prolly night elf again

[gusty mirage]

rip will of the forsaken

[royal lantern]

i learned a couple weeks ago that worgen have a /sniff animation

[gusty mirage]

[vestal wren]

its still good if there is a fear effect

and people miss the interrupt

[gusty mirage]

people would never miss the interrupt

I heard that wow players are some of the smartest gamers on the planet

from a reliable source

[vestal wren]

[royal lantern]

can confirm, the source also told me they have the best Q&A team

[gusty mirage]

^ the result of that person raiding with some of those smart players

[spice surge]

Once the expac is closer ill bless you with some new fantastic transmogs @gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

[spice surge]

Havent updated my wardrobe in a while

[vestal wren]

[royal lantern]

watching tanks stop moving at all the second the boss is not 100% on the same position as it was on the last 200pulls

wr500 btw, top 0,something % of the Playerbase

[gusty mirage]

I'll probably still be waiting to be let in this zoom hearing

so I'll be here

[spice surge]

And since were doing big boosting now i have "infinite" money

[gusty mirage]

that's the neat part

that happens like everywhere outside of the top like 10

[royal lantern]

yes

🙂

[gusty mirage]

I once forgot to apply atrophic for an entire night of sarkareth prog

hall of fame raider btw

[spice surge]

The amount of strokes my tanks had during tindral progress when i got aggro

[vestal wren]

your healers 100% did tell you after the first pull. They must have noticed the huge diffrence in healing requirements

[gusty mirage]

thankfully there wasn't a lot of damage in p1 ya know

[gusty mirage]

I don't get healed anyway, so I didn't notice

[royal lantern]

i forget all the time to put my PI+Dm macro back into my bars

the priest just doesnt pi anyone then for the entire night

[gusty mirage]

still procced my cheat on the glimmer

with and without it

[vestal wren]

luckily a non issue anymore in TWW, just play trickster

permanent tott

[spice surge]

Afaik it doesnt drop when you swap specs currently

[gusty mirage]

perfect

[spice surge]

So you can have it for every spec right now

[vestal wren]

[gusty mirage]

time to rebuy tww

and tricks the boomkins

[vestal wren]

you need to play subtlety for it

[gusty mirage]

yes, but why would you play anything besides DEATHSTALKER

it just got buffed!

surely it was a numbers issue

[spice surge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-kanye-west-all-falls-down-song-nope-stop-right-there-gif-20589089

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/rollypolly-cat-love-in-kiss-gif-22827687

at least fatebound and trickster are decent

so we have that going for us

[royal lantern]

we are really so desperate at this point that "coinflip lol" is seen as the good tree

[gusty mirage]

still funny to me that the result of whispyr's thesis about how terrible deathstalker is and fuu being unable to find anything positive about it besides "it's a cool theme" was "yeah we'll just buff the numbers"

esp considering fuu's the most positive person I know about literally everything

the man dives deeper than we'll delve in tww to find something positive

[royal lantern]

like

the autohit node

and they BUFF it

what the actuall fuck

do they really want autohits to be #1-#2 dmg source?

[gusty mirage]

yeah but it'll be plague damage

so it's like

totally not the same thing ok?

idk man I was asked for my thoughts about sub going into tww

and I tried being positive and the only positive thing I found was that dance is sub only

lmao

literally nothing changed

[royal lantern]

you know what they should do to make the expansion even better?

we all play alliance siege now

make a invisible wall for the jump to the horde start

[gusty mirage]

are you ready for it

[royal lantern]

so we are forced to walk the "intended" way

[gusty mirage]

the 2 trappers at the beginning?

siege fortified is going to be a no go

[blazing jewel]

[royal lantern]

i was alliance for BfA mate lol

[gusty mirage]

oh

yeah I had to explain to horde members

why the alliance one sucks

and I was like REMEMBER THIS GUY?

THAT YOU SKIPPED EVERY DUNGEON?

now you get to pull TWO of them!

[royal lantern]

dont worry, we have the cool new Dawnbringer dungeon aswell now

which is like

imagine every single worst thing in dungeons you remember

put them togheter

and add the ICC airship fight

[gusty mirage]

perfect

sign me up

I'd also like Ion to show up to my house and smack me in the face with a baseball bat every time I miss an interrupt

[royal lantern]

wdym, we have shrine of the storms in the rotation

[gusty mirage]

I loved shrine

but I also loved kings rest

I need help

like professional help

[echo sparrow]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923898501529600/1233411543421681724/rl7mgpak53rc1.webp

[pure moth]

Siege shouldn't exist.

[primal jolt]

HELLO PUMPERS

what a beautiful day to play some deathstalker

[blazing jewel]

[celest quartz]

is the fastest dagger the one with the lowest number of speed??

[primal jolt]

stop sussing me

[gusty mirage]

all weapon speeds are normalized now afaik, so every dagger should be the same exact speed

[limber lion]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[limber lion]

@compact delta

[celest quartz]

i play cataclysm

[gusty mirage]

oh

then you'd want the highest speed

for faster stabbing

so like 1.8 vs 1.6

1.8 would be faster

whereas 1.6 will hit harder because it's slower

[limber lion]

I was about to say that we don't support private servers

Until I remembered that it's actually classic

[primal jolt]

XDDDD!?!?

[compact delta]

appreciate it

[ashen oriole]

does assa play wound poison in sanguine weeks or will it kill dps?

[gusty mirage]

assa doesn't play wound outside of pvp

[limber lion]

Never

Mythic+ always bangbang boomboom

Deeps or home

[gusty mirage]

I would recommend avoiding DtB on sanguine weeks or just not applying crippling if you do play it

[ashen oriole]

thats what i thought but didnt have anything to back it up

im gonna say, ravenholdt says no

[gusty mirage]

ye we lose too much damage playing wound

sub/outlaw can get away with it

[marble hemlock]

what if we play dtb without amp poison/dashing in m+ in sanguine weeks

[gusty mirage]

you can play whatever crackpot build you want bud

[limber lion]

Everyone should be saying no, not just us

[marble hemlock]

thanks love

[primal jolt]

MAN ive been rerolled to feral for 2 days now and the rogue itch is killing me man

i need to go back so bad

[limber lion]

Tank moving the packs properly and not standing still is faster than you dunking your dps and playing wound poison

[ashen oriole]

well you know, people have not yet warmed up to assa rogues

[limber lion]

🕺

[limber lion]

True true

[gusty mirage]

assa rogue is like the little brother that you're forced to bring with you in keys

[limber lion]

Take me back to 8 3

[gusty mirage]

because aug/spriest are just broken

[marble hemlock]

"can you take your brother to the movies? and no R rated stuff, you got that?"

[ashen oriole]

yoda is on tape saying assa is F'ed in TWW because bleed buff is on sanguine rotation

[gusty mirage]

[marble hemlock]

seeing how we dont even know the affix rotation plans yet

thats certainly a statement

[ashen oriole]

i don;t but certain streamer seem to think they do

[gusty mirage]

yoda should be more concerned with how mediocre the hero trees are vs an interaction of 2 affixes lmao

[marble hemlock]

well, good for them

[ruby birch]

I just never apply crippling unless it’s needed for a certain pull or boss

It’s honestly such a fucking shit poison to have on all the time

[gusty mirage]

it's a worse slow than the other slows to boot

[ruby birch]

Tank grouping stuff means you just can’t hit anything because crippling

[gusty mirage]

so like its purpose even sucks compared to alternatives

lmao

[ruby birch]

Yeah

I just don’t bother with it

If I need it for something I’ll put it on and save a shiv for util

Because if you shiv it yeah it’s a good slow

Otherwise it’s actually worthless

[thorn fjord]

Can relate.. My purpose sucks

[primal jolt]

rogue jumpscare

[limber lion]

Why are they green

When you have spec'd into all of them

[primal jolt]

because its a wowhead ss

im at work I'l log beta tonight and do it properly

[dark token]

...are these a fixed rotation and not rotating?

[buoyant moat]

Is there a website/reasource that shows an aggragete of when people use CD's on mythic bosses?

[spice surge]

https://lorrgs.io/

[buoyant moat]

Perfect thanks brother

[solar tangle]

do you guys recommend a good explanation video for roations / builds for sin on retail? i know there is a ton, but i also want to know about pooling etc..

[buoyant moat]

wowhead for S4 is pretty comprehensive and has most of the info pretty well laid out

[solar tangle]

the 50% energy pooling stuff in on retail still correct? or was it just a tww thing?

[spice surge]

Its not something you play around

But the talent exists and is taken yes

[buoyant moat]

It's more important to clip Envenoms then to maintain Sanguine

I can't remember if it's a dps increase or not outside of cooldowns to maintain above 50% while still clipping envenom someone else could tell you better

[solar tangle]

does the specc work with my vers/crit gear from outlaw? or its bullshit? 😄

[solar tangle]

ah okay

[glacial stump]

All on wowhead

[solar tangle]

Good reading for the weekend. I want to learn Assa 🙂

[glacial stump]

I've just started doing the same, seems an easy transition from sub

outlaw doesnt play much like sub/sin

but your fingers will thank you for the change in pace xD

[worthy ruin]

friends where do i find the m+ beta testing? like testrealm or beta realm and what server?

[solar tangle]

you have access to beta in launcher?

[worthy ruin]

yes

[solar tangle]

Create a char on the right realm

in the capital there are vendors for t-set and stuff

and then you are good to go

[worthy ruin]

ohh its a speical realm

[solar tangle]

just use dungeon finder

[worthy ruin]

thanks mate u saved me

[solar tangle]

np

[worthy ruin]

man, i got beta selected on curse forge and also beta release on details and i still got lua errors

is details broken on beta?

[slate crown]

Many addon authors aren't making updates for beta, only a few of the more popular addons will have done so

For curseforge, you want to select Release Type: Alpha

(even for beta)

[worthy ruin]

u saved me

thanks

works

[lament belfry]

Anybody else feel like it's harder getting into keys as a rogue even with higher io than your alts?

[clever sapphire]

are you trying to push with your main aka rouge and do 8s on your alt?

if so of course alt will be easier, they see that your main has higher score

so they will more likely take you over the 600 rio shadowpriest

[lament belfry]

I have 3 characters all at around 3k

[primal jolt]

i wonder why

[lament belfry]

it's all subjective my guy

[drowsy lotus]

Stupid question but do we want to clip dots or no?

[spice surge]

Not sure what you mean by clip

[drowsy lotus]

like before the dot runs out do i refresh

or let it run out

[spice surge]

Just to be clear, you are asking for dragonflight and not cataclysm right

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[drowsy lotus]

Yeah dragon

[spice surge]

So you can refresh your bleeds at <30% of their duration and not lose anything

For example if you refresh garrote (an 18s dot) at 5 seconds it will have 23 seconds left, because 5 seconds carried over from the previous dot

Most weakaura packs have some form of indication when its hitting that 30% (called pandemic)

[slate crown]

When was pandemic added to all classes, was that mop? I don't remember. I know warlocks got it early.. I think

[spice surge]

Most in mop ye, but i think it was gradually

Mostly just dots to begin with

[drowsy lotus]

awesome thanks so much for that info

[spice surge]

Nvm i looked at it, its not introduced for warlocks until mop

So its probably legion/wod for others

[slate crown]

Ahh

[drowsy lotus]

Random other question does anyone macro Shiv with Kingsbane? i always forget to shiv before

[normal kite]

iirc pandemic was introduced to affliction back in wotlk or cata

[slate crown]

You can't shiv with kingsbane, they're both on gcd

[spice surge]

Ye it allowed dots to crit and scale from haste in those iterations right?

[slate crown]

Just going to have to remember the GCD sequence. You can macro Trinkets/potion/shadow dance with Kingsbane, but not shiv.

[normal kite]

could be completely wrong but i have a vague memory of them doing so, mop for sure since all the snapshotting shenagans was happening then

[spice surge]

Like i checked the wotlk calc and its just "your dots can crit", the cata one is "your dots have shorter gcd"

The mop one is what we call pandemic

[slate crown]

Just remember, you aren't shivving before .

You're after shiv

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1014354006270808144/1238343278005588062/AssassinationShiv.gif

[drowsy lotus]

☠️

[spice spire]

@keen spruce my goat

[drowsy lotus]

Lisan Al Gaib show us the way....

[royal lantern]

quake wanting that sloopy shmoopy

[spice spire]

He just made the gif man

What do you want from me

[royal lantern]

you know the answer

george pics

[keen spruce]

[bleak ledge]

tiny toxic blade deserved a better fate

[cedar lynx]

Hello guys, i'm playing rogue as an alt but was wondering if you could check what i can improve based on this log https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gGRvyTDYXrHZaJ4h#type=casts&fight=last&source=3&view=timeline

[gusty mirage]

[strong wing]

is there any wa to auto put the key instead of searching for it and do it manually?

[gusty mirage]

I believe astral keys has that functionality, and there's probably a WA for it

https://wago.io/ngni7TUwC

idk if that WA still works

[spice surge]

Ye this one has it as part of it too
https://wago.io/M+Timer

[gusty mirage]

oh m+ timer has it too

neat

[strong wing]

Oh thanks guys

[spice surge]

Ye because thats what i use and hadnt realized its not default

[strong wing]

Struggling to get tanks in 15s+

no ones playing this game

[runic hinge]

No rewards for doing over a 10 either so

sanguine is bad tank week as well

[hexed frost]

Man, the sudden demise executes on AA bugs are just..

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

Literally 10% of overall on that pull

[spice surge]

A demisepilled bleedmaxxer i see

[dark token]

Wdym bug

[hexed frost]

Lashers, if you may

[dark token]

Oh

[hexed frost]

Always fun to see players confused about how some mobs just drop dead from 2.3 million HP

"Is anyone else experiencing rubberbanding?"

No my dear pala, you've been just demisepilled

[drowsy lotus]

!opener

[red wolf]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[lavish jasper]

I just had to do this on beta
😄

[drowsy lotus]

when im doing aoe rotationg do i only use fan of knives to spread poisons? if i want combo points is it better to mutilate

[shy pecan]

You muti for caustic, but AoE for the combo point gen on 3+

[drowsy lotus]

does fan of knives generate more combo points?

[runic hinge]

yea if you crit

check seal fate

[drowsy lotus]

oh so more attacks = more crits more generating

[runic hinge]

yes

thrown precision also helps you crit more

with fok

so lets say there's 4 mobs and you crit on 2 of them that's 1 combo point for the fok and 2 for the crits for 3 combo points

or maybe you crit on all 4 and you get 5 combo points

[junior aurora]

nothing like a FOK in aoe giving 1 cp

[nimble zinc]

uh, on pull im always stealth > garotte everything cause it cleaves, and then rupture also cleaves, and then fan of knives and CT

[rugged flint]

do you wait until epowered rupture/garrote completely fall off before refreshing, or is it ok to do it with a second or two left?

[shy pecan]

Let the garrote fall off before reapplying, yeah

Rupture is kinda whatever

[fluid drift]

i dont know how rare that is, but in 3 days of a lot playing, my kingsbane got dodged at start in the main burst... Isnt that like the worst possible scenario? and how rare is that?

[spice surge]

Its parry, and yes raid bosses have a 3% chance to parry if you hit them from the front

If they parry your kingsbane its fucking over

[rigid haven]

Does that mean its worth trying to kingsbane from behind or is it rare enough to be negligible?

[tribal forge]

what are you guys using for your bullion this week?

[spice surge]

You always want to be behind

[clever sapphire]

its actually 50%, either its a parry or not (but fr, sark parried like every 3rd attack from me like holy shit)

[rigid haven]

I'd need a replacement monitor if that happened to me xD

[fluid drift]

ok, main range or tank here xD

will try that. is that the case for every melee?

[spice surge]

Yes

[fluid drift]

does any aoe and dot count?

[spice surge]

Most do

[quaint hull]

do better and kb from the back

always hit it from the back

[ornate dawn]

Remove boss parry from anyone not a tank/with threat - outdated mechanic

[spice surge]

Bring a trickster rogue

[quiet oar]

You know what even worse? Fok not giving cps at all

Thats what i endure in cata

[balmy condor]

You know what even worse? deathstalker

[quiet oar]

Well thats the neat Part i didnt test it

I read your suffering

And thought

Nope

[grim jay]

Thats what i endure in cata

Fixed

[quiet oar]

Well

First

You are a hater

Second

Some of These dudes act like a boomer like you are

So

Maybe its a game fitting for you

[grim jay]

If one could call me hater on one topic it would probably be classic

That much is true

[quiet oar]

Nothing more boring than awakened wow

Rn

Like even waiting on energy in cata on my rogue, is more exciting than awakened

[grim jay]

Thats why I log in for raids if I need to and play some m+ if I feel like it

And play a different game

[quiet oar]

I raid log

To keep the guild alive

And thats it

Im even done on remix now

[grim jay]

It took me a couple of days to be done with remix

Cba to get everything

[grim jay]

Kinda same

[quiet oar]

I have everything

[grim jay]

Prolly wouldnt raid otherwise

[balmy condor]

do you have the secret to happiness

[grim jay]

Your videos

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-flattered-blushing-gif-5730964303927612237

[balmy condor]

okay but do you have the secret to happiness for ME

[gilded oasis]

chocolate

[quiet oar]

Well i Do play wow

[balmy condor]

cause I don't feel happy

[grim jay]

German rap

[quiet oar]

So im constantly hiding the pain of not being happy

With playing wow

Like all of us

Right???

[grim jay]

@balmy condor https://youtu.be/OZJ8cc64mbk?si=4aHnGxNiYBfqK21J

[quiet oar]

Deletion of deathstalker

[balmy condor]

true

[balmy condor]

im ok thanks, not clicking that

[quiet oar]

What if deletestalker?

[quiet oar]

Remix raid with some guildies were a lot more fun, than fucking aberrus raiding

[grim jay]

Its honestly better than what you listened to

And we all know you will click it

[grim jay]

Idk I donf like the concept of the cloak

[quiet oar]

?

[grim jay]

With the infinite stat thingy

[quiet oar]

I mean whats the issue

Its Not like it matters

[gilded oasis]

its too fun

no fun allowed

[quiet oar]

Thats why remix Was tuned more than s4

Fun detected

[grim jay]

I dont like being carried around like luggage

[quiet oar]

Has nothing to Do with cloak

Just need gear Upgrades

[grim jay]

For sure does

Look at the stat diff

[quiet oar]

Thsts where the Real Power is

[gilded oasis]

its ilvl & cloak, mainly ilvl cloak just does it on top

[quiet oar]

Davyn

I played this Mode a lot

Your cloak does nothing

Without 556 gear

[grim jay]

At the point I decided to not play further, the cloak kinda gave the majority of stats

[gilded oasis]

right but at max ilvl your cloak does matter. I get my dam quadrupled by people with higher threads. just because vers stat

Max ilvl and tinkers do carry but a juiced cloak just carries more

[quiet oar]

You get to Drs anywyss

If you arent doing mythic

No Boss live longer than a lifestorm barrage

[grim jay]

I just cleared mythic with ward

[balmy condor]

DRS?

[quiet oar]

DRs

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/max-verstappen-f1-formule-1-gif-15087359750872636720

[gilded oasis]

remix can turn me into a Dr.??

[quiet oar]

Yes

[quiet oar]

There is a german party Song

For Max verstappen

[balmy condor]

its interesting you say it's a german party song

we play it in california

[quiet oar]

Well tbf

Im not Sure if its a german party Song

But it has the characteristics of Ballermann Song

[grim jay]

Might be, even we have "bad taste partys" over here

[quiet oar]

Dudududu Max verstappen dudududu

[quiet oar]

I heard Sylt is great at this Thing

[woeful meteor]

[grim jay]

[quiet oar]

I mean many of those got their receipt

For their stupidity

[grim jay]

Ive heard the clothing trend on Sylt is combat boots and swimming shorts this year

[quiet oar]

Ye

[quiet oar]

And a blue flag and towel

For their Favorite party

[flint marsh]

does shadowmeld just let you back in to stealth for a full reset in m+ trash pulls or is there some extra gimmick to it?

[spice surge]

Not sure if i'd call it a gimmick, but it very frequently just doesnt work

In theory ye it should just instantly put you in stealth (if you macro it)

But decently often it doesnt let you leave combat, or it takes a few seconds (which effectively makes it pointless)

[barren yarrow]

i need some help with sims if anyone has the oppertunity?

i cannot figure out what to get with bullion, i have nick of time and sark dagger, i have torch and ashes, mythic track cloak from nel.

[runic hinge]

What about rings?

[barren yarrow]

i have a DC ring and diurnas

could get the shield ring?

[slate crown]

Shield ring is good

The shield itself is pretty unimpressive but I don't see any other rings that have a shield

And it can go 2 upgrade levels higher than any other ring

[barren yarrow]

yeahhh

i mean i just try to follow the "not BIS" websites

because i know that theyre just scrapping the logs and plopping in items

[slate crown]

Well if you want to know the better damage option for you, use the robot, not those sites

[barren yarrow]

i did

its weird

since i have nick and sark carver isnt worth it

but its weird

[slate crown]

that's not weird

Like right now, you have the good bullion options