It would be 30% of the duration on the tooltip, assuming you refresh it with a 6cp rupture
#assassination
gusty mirage
royal lantern
its a meme where somebody went once and said "look, i can make the tree look like a crab" 
gusty mirage
Good baseline is just to take the 5cp one, which I believe is 7.2s iirc
gusty mirage
its a meme where somebody went once and said "look, i can make the tree look lik...
The wild part is it isn’t as dogshit as it seems
royal lantern
i mean, yeha, they made the trees a bit "foolproof" by default
gates, important skills not really able to miss etc....
gusty mirage
Being able to completely skip our major CD was an interesting design decision
opal dawn
fuck me, i gonna try it now xD for low content, the build doesn't matter anyway. It's enough if you know what you are doing anyway
opal dawn
Being able to completely skip our major CD was an interesting design decision
i think this is the thing i would NOT do xD
gusty mirage
Honestly do it, finding ways to change shit up is cool. Often times people forget this is a video game
opal dawn
Honestly do it, finding ways to change shit up is cool. Often times people forge...
thats what i think too, you can switch to a meta build in mythic raids
gusty mirage
As long as you’re having fun, that’s all that matters. And I agree, mythic raid probably isn’t the time to bust out the crab build but like lfr or weekly +8s-10s to fill vault? Fuck it
Probably does decent enough for heroic too tbh
tawdry meteor
Anyone have a WA that shows when a garrote is empowered?
gusty mirage
!wa It requires custom code so I would yoink the garrote WAs from these packs
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subtle tundra
kinda sad to see that even when playing as much as zerocool the highest he has done is 18 LOL
thats 3 key levels less than the highest
opal dawn
hmm also, there could be a good build somewhere hidden. Rogue is "not played that much"
gusty mirage
kinda sad to see that even when playing as much as zerocool the highest he has d...
Unfortunate side effect of yet another god comp emerging tbh
subtle tundra
4 less if talking about av
thats a LOT
thats not even close to being a well balanced meta
gusty mirage
gusty mirage
That’s three times this expac now?
opal dawn
thats not even close to being a well balanced meta
just look at tanks and the discussion about meta vanishes ^^
tawdry meteor
Is there anywhere I can post for log review?
subtle tundra
and defend it
gusty mirage
As much as people shit on bfa, bfa was significantly better balanced m+ wise (just ignore sub and survival hunter like blizzard did)
opal dawn
am i wrong?: the problem with dh utility was there the whole time, but it was not so populat to prefer utility over demage?
subtle tundra
the utility dh has rn is a recent thing
gusty mirage
Is there anywhere I can post for log review?
You can just post it on here and I can make a thread for you
royal lantern
Being able to completely skip our major CD was an interesting design decision
i mean yeha, but you REALLY have to try for that
subtle tundra
the only season you could maybe play assa was the first one, and outlaw still was so much better
royal lantern
its like skipping PI on priest class tree, they made all the strong stuff behind Pi so priests are forced to take it
delete pi btw
royal lantern
yes
playing devestation on remix
insane spec
if i would play that one and then was told "Play aug now"
i would just delete folder 32
subtle tundra
or maybe go back to SL dungeon design where time and dps was the thing that timed keys
subtle tundra
not surviving 1 shot after 1 shot
opal dawn
the only season you could maybe play assa was the first one, and outlaw still wa...
wdym?
subtle tundra
wdym wdym
royal lantern
wdym wdym wdym
opal dawn
you can play a spec and improve your gameplay to the top if you like it
subtle tundra
ok nvm it wasnt outlaw that was so much better, it was sub
opal dawn
it was both actually
subtle tundra
you can play a spec and improve your gameplay to the top if you like it
really? wow
now imagine you can play whatever you want at top gameplay, and 1 is better than the other
obviously better
royal lantern
oh i was not aware that you are refering to the top1% ^^
top1% is still not high enough lol
like, meta revelance in wow is the REALLY really really high top end
top 1% is "does mythic raids"
opal dawn
depends
99,9% of all players feel like meta is relevant for them in their prospective 😉
opal dawn
and I AM A CRAB
subtle tundra
and meta matters way more in scaling content than non-scaling content
i can afford playing assa as much as i want in mythic raid unless its actually dog water(like season 2, and i chose to still play it and get benched)
opal dawn
strong ^^
royal lantern
tbf, its also like
5man content
is just a shitshow
20 man raids? sure, every class is SUPPOSED to be in the raid 1x
but 5man group content completely throws that out of the window
subtle tundra
kinda weird how RAID buffs dictate M+ meta
royal lantern
and it turns from "yeha, my class/spec is maybe not that great rn, but i still have my place" into "yeha, why ever THINK about me when other stuff is objectively better"
royal lantern
m+ is so half assed, its incredible
ammount of work and improvments done on it over the years is near 0
royal lantern
most competitive part of wow
and other things m+ players tell themself in the mirror at night to feel better
gusty mirage
Unironically true
royal lantern
sure
gusty mirage
The hamster wheel keeps people engaged
fallen arch
Because pvp is kinda non existent
gusty mirage
2-3 months into the season raid is dead for most players
It’s mostly people gearing alts
royal lantern
and now m+ makes blizz do idiotic desicions in record speed all the time
fallen arch
Ye and also raid is something you do 6-9 hours a week if you’re not a total degen
royal lantern
cus they cba actually doing anything with it
gusty mirage
Pvp queues are fucked because people love to sit on rating and make a “final push” so queue times are abysmal
fallen arch
M+ you can do all week long
gusty mirage
Yep it’s either m+ or casual content outside of raid
And idk many people who are gonna opt to farm rep for a mount lmao
gusty mirage
Ye and tmogs and finishing loremaster
royal lantern
And idk many people who are gonna opt to farm rep for a mount lmao
unironicaly and not as a meme, more then probs do m+
gusty mirage
Which is unironically a large part of the player base
fallen arch
Ye which are all or braindead easy or total rng
gusty mirage
Yep
You can knock most of it out in a day too
A few hours for your rotation weekly
fallen arch
Ye exactly
royal lantern
like, reminder how absolutely low the ammount of people that do mythic raids and m+ beyond "weekly +8 for vault" is
"m+ players" that push is a ridicolous low number, not different then mythic raiding
gusty mirage
Ye, mythic plus is great for the game but gets super toxic at higher levels
As in super toxic for the game itself
royal lantern
As in super toxic for the game itself
thats my problem with it tbh
like, high end m+ is basically a moba
dont learn and play your character
play whats best
20000x more easy to get results
and more effective
gusty mirage
Ye that’s poor balancing
royal lantern
which kinda stands against everything that mmorpgs are about
gusty mirage
Blizzard deviated away from their philosophy of “bring the player not the class” with SL
And idk why
royal lantern
like, i know "dae affixes bad" etc.....
but just the IDEA that affixes exist that some classes CANT INTERACT WITH IN ANY WAY AT ALL is pure insanity
like, who the fuck thought thats a good thing????
gusty mirage
Increased unavoidable damage sources in keys where you’re kind of inclined to bring in classes with tons of utility
fallen arch
Ye fuck that
But I’m sort of doing the same
If I can choose between an Aug that is giving so much value for the last spot, or a super sick Frost DK
royal lantern
Increased unavoidable damage sources in keys where you’re kind of inclined to br...
thats because high level m+ is something they literally dont really care much about
m+ is balanced until +10 where the last reward comes from
fallen arch
I know what I’m choosing
royal lantern
after that? wild west
royal lantern
every class and spec can do a +10? they achieved their goal
cus thats the end of what they want people to do
fallen arch
Which sort of makes sense
BUT
The competitive part of it is TGP this season
Which completely invalidates that logic
royal lantern
it also doesnt help that the "m+ community" is not much better then the PvP one
many of the changes we saw are results of their complaints
royal lantern
Just watch a random zerocool stream
my man, i raided with him for a while, that was enough zero exposure
royal lantern
(he is cool in raids, dont worry, im just doing memes)
fallen arch
But I don’t think I could keep up with that sort of behavior
Desync PI once? On banlist
Overpull as tank? Banlist
But he’s probably just memeing
fallen arch
my man, i raided with him for a while, that was enough zero exposure
You play on Silvermoon then?
cerulean maple
Is this build fine for lower keys? (up to +6 rn) or should i go with suddem demise + middle tree w/ amp poison etc.
gusty mirage
But I don’t think I could keep up with that sort of behavior
Ye it’s next level clown
royal lantern
Is this build fine for lower keys? (up to +6 rn) or should i go with suddem demi...
isnt that just shock
?
cerulean maple
i.. i think so??
fallen arch
This looks fine
gusty mirage
Is this build fine for lower keys? (up to +6 rn) or should i go with suddem demi...
Looks good, sudden demise will carry when all the OP classes do a gajillion dps
gusty mirage
Spread bleeds, and go ham
limber lion
don't bother pressing KB on packs
gusty mirage
Anything under like a +10 will die in like 15s max anyway
cerulean maple
so more worth spreading ruptures than trying to prio burst bc shit just falls over?
gusty mirage
So spread bleeds for the juicy sudden demise pad
Ye wouldn’t bother KBing unless it’s one of those named mobs with a billion HP
limber lion
so more worth spreading ruptures than trying to prio burst bc shit just falls ov...
Garrotes > CT > Ruptures
limber lion
With every build ever you spread garrotes on cooldown
on targets that don't have them
gusty mirage
From stealth would cover most of it, but outside of from stealth ye you just spread garrote and rupture and keep up CT
limber lion
If there's a target without garrote on it and your garrote is off cd, you press gar
cerulean maple
i figured it would be more worth to just spatter prio one target than to use a gcd spreading non-improved garrote 
woops
glad i asked ig
limber lion
It is worth it if you're slamming down during full DTB KB Spatter windows
But with your build and the nature of the low level of the key, it's not worth it
cerulean maple
alright noted
cerulean maple
cerulean maple
Is there a faster way to find out what mythics will give me the biggest upgrades than running every single mythic through the droptimizer?
high jetty
You can run all dungeons at once on droptimizer
halcyon crypt
!FUU
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cerulean maple
You can run all dungeons at once on droptimizer
isn't that a premium feature
cerulean maple
the goat
dark token
isn't that a premium feature
Don't think so?
high jetty
Honestly raid bots premium is the best $ I’ve ever spent lol
I don’t even know what it costs
Only that I’m happy with my purchase
vestal wren
you can always use the gear list from #tc-research and run more selective sims
fallen arch
Its a sub. Right
high jetty
So much time at work spent simming instead of agonizing boredom
high jetty
Its a sub. Right
Ye
fallen arch
But then you’d have to actually craft theories
cerulean maple
too many braincells involved
but getting permanent premium for theorycrafting is pretty cool
tawdry meteor
Do we play around this at all?
royal lantern
Do we play around this at all?
no
in aoe it happens by itself cus you have infinite energy there
in ST you ignore it and it just happens sometimes
shy pecan
!pooling
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Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back
- If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
- Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
- Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
- With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
tawdry meteor
!pooling
ty
so "If you are above roughly 80% energy, you're nearing the cap and should be starting up a new Envenom chain soon" we pool to 80% and then envenom chain until we can't anymore and then pool back to 80% and start envenom chaining again, if im understanding that right?
shy pecan
so *"If you are above roughly 80% energy, you're nearing the cap and should be s...
Yeah
tawdry meteor
ty
normal mist
alright turns out im just stupid then
We all were at some point. (i still am)
tawdry meteor
When I was reading the icyveins guide earlier, I swear I saw that it said to Ashes when Kingsbane has 9-10 seconds left, but I'm looking again and I can't see anywhere it even mentions ashses. Is there a box I have to tick to find it
limber lion
When I was reading the icyveins guide earlier, I swear I saw that it said to Ash...
Just macro it on Deathmark and you're chilling
tawdry meteor
yy but I feel like I'm going mad because it was 1000% there but now I can't find the bit that says it
wraith spindle
when single target bursting for opener, you press deathmark before dance?
wraith spindle
Tyvm
wraith spindle
and thistle tea?
wraith spindle
awesome
slate crown
Otherwise use tea when ur thirsty
wraith spindle
hahaha ok! you guys are the best
tawdry meteor
So in the guide at the bottom it says "Refresh Garrote and Rupture during vanish" , but in the other section it says to just refresh garrote and doesn't mention rupture, and it feels weird to use rupture instead of envenom at the end of vanish since you still have your 2nd shiv up as well
So i guess my question is, am ia ctually supposed to rupture refresh there instead of enveonming?
slate crown
It was a point of deliberation during the final days of sim testing after the rework
Ultimately
It doesn't matter
They're close enough together, and generally it's just less of a headache to use envenom and not worry about thinking about rupture
I just envenom
tawdry meteor
I shall envenom too, feels better
Does master assassin snapshot onto the entire Rupture if yo ucast it in vanish?
slate crown
No
MA is literally just "while buff is active, damage events have +Crit", not a snapshot
The only snapshot effects we have are Imp Garrote (if you consider that a snapshot which I do, it is effectively one) and Nightstalker
tawdry meteor
ok ty
and last question I have rn is
Before going into each Kingsbane window, do I want to precast an envenom beforehand so i go into the window with the buff, like in the opener
slate crown
It is ideal to do that, yes
Most entries into KB will look like Env -> (Deathmark every other) -> Shiv -> Dance/KB -> the rest
2 caveats tho
The goal is envenom uptime, the above is not necessarily required for that goal depending on the circumstance
As you get acclimated to watching your envenom buff, you can easily have situations where you go Env -> Mutilate -> Mutilate -> Shiv -> Dance/KB -> Env
As you learn best to stick to always doing env shiv kb, but just know you can look for opportunities to shortcut that as long as envenom is maintained
Second is in M+, a lot of the meticulous planning and preparations for an optimal KB window can go out the window
As you're just trying to get as much stuff out when you have the opportunity that you can
So you may initiate KB without envenom being active in M+ just to get it rolling sooner
radiant osprey
keen spruce
shadowdance isn't on the GCD
you dance/KB at the same time
but you might as well have the initial hit of KB get the stealth benefits
hallow tinsel
I got a question for the bleed build guys, when running pug keys with large first pulls (Nelth for exmaple, tank pulls the first 2-4 packs) do you guys wait to open until the tank has stopped pulling so you can spread bleeds easier with IC, or do you just start spreading bleeds early and spread them manually after the IC window is down? I generally run a poison builds for the easier rotation but I'd like to get in the habit of pushing with the more recommended bleed build
high jetty
Go with the tank and spread
The wardens aren’t dangerous
You can get your bleeds on them with out IC when they come in
Or with your vanish later
The bleed build isn’t that complex really. You’re dps just comes from different cooldowns in aoe. It’s all about shivs and stealths. Rather than KB/DM
grim jay
Nothing wrong with waiting until he is atleast at the second group
high jetty
Yeah. All I meant is don’t sit there in stealth waiting for the slow ass wardens to catch up
Once he gets the first 2 packs you can hit tricks and start ramping
Then send on the thermacharge
ancient tangle
!fuu
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cerulean maple
!pooling
prisma monolithBOT
Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back
- If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
- Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
- Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
- With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
hexed frost
Guys any tips for bleedmaxxing? 
I'm running DTB+SD in keys and my sudden demise overall is staying at 2%, can't cross above that.
I'm keeping up CT and Scent stacks though.
Can't figure out what's going wrong
limber lion
Guys any tips for bleedmaxxing? <a:NOTED:1060344918419181598>
I'm running DTB+...
Running DTB means you are not running Zoldyck/AP and that's a massive thing for SD
If you spec out of DTB and use the Arterial Shock build instead, you'll see your SD skyrocket
hexed frost
Running DTB means you are not running Zoldyck/AP and that's a massive thing for ...
Ohhh... But sims showed that DTB+SD was poggers
limber lion
DTB spreads the damage more across other things
limber lion
Dungeonslice sims are not super duper great
spice surge
Sims cant take demise proc into account either
limber lion
Try out the Arterial Shock build and see how you do with that
spice surge
So all sims with that talent are gonna be inaccurate regardless of what you do
hexed frost
So AP+SD?
hexed frost
Yeah I have that saved, but was only running the cleave build so far
proven jasper
it owns trust
limber lion
Cleave is really only good at higher key levels where stuff lives long enough to have KB for every pack and the mobs live through the entire KB window
hexed frost
I'm just KBing bigger mobs and ending up at 7-7.5% overall for my kb
crimson zephyr
what does "per critical strike" mean?
limber lion
what does "per critical strike" mean?
If you Mutilate and only one of your hits crits, you would generate 1 extra combo point. If you crit with both hits, you would generate 2 extra combo points.
As Mutilate is an ability that hits twice.
crimson zephyr
If you Mutilate and only one of your hits crits, you would generate 1 extra comb...
ok, well very weird formulation. thanks for the clarification
spice surge
It makes more sense for fok
Where it gives you 1 combo point per crit, so it can be 1 per target if everything crits
limber lion
Yeah, pretty much the same for all similar generators that have an upfront damage portion that can crit
Those currently only being Mutilate and FoK
crimson zephyr
ty
cerulean maple
'
this build slaps
my aoe performance in mythics skyrocketed
i was also playing sd+dtb before
does this rundonw look good for raszageth
limber lion
No clue, never look at details breakdown
Doesn't really matter to me
If you do good dam, then it's good
smiles
shy pecan
No
full summit
i cant get 4pc yet
shy pecan
Can’t mix and match S3 with S4
full summit
aw man
full summit
i wanted to get 2pc s4
full summit
Ok. SD damage is now 6.2% of my overall, up from 2% <:Surebud:108382736081566523...
sudden demise?
hexed frost
Yes
hexed frost
404K overall, 6.2%, 6 BH
full summit
i was doing a 3 offensive
hexed frost
Dungeon dependent and tank dependent I guess
hexed frost
Peak bleedmaxxing
full summit
ong
hexed frost
Would be great if kb affected bleeds also
subtle tundra
A 3 😭
hexed frost
Assa m+ meta
cerulean maple
only vaguely related but what m+ keys should i be running at ilvl 500
limber lion
Whatever you think you can pull off
Depends on your skill level and what you're aiming to do as well
Could do chill +5's or push 15's
cerulean maple
gear up ig? but, essentially, does ilvl not matter as much as actually being good at the dungeon mechanics?
gusty mirage
ilvl will just kinda hold you back when pugging
limber lion
Your group matters a lot
Your route matters a lot
Your rotation matters a lot
Your gear matters a lot
cerulean maple
io?
limber lion
Rating
full summit
yeah
full summit
gearing up is like prio while learning and knowing everything else
limber lion
Not dying and doing your rotation super well is a good place to start
And you gear up as you go
gusty mirage
at 500 ilvl you probably still have a lot of gear that'll need wyrms crests so don't feel bad about running some 5s
full summit
like i learned my rotation first then doing boss mechs and then geared while doing it all
cerulean maple
Not dying and doing your rotation super well is a good place to start
that's more or less waht i've been focusing on
full summit
whether the group was dogshit or not
gusty mirage
ideally you do at least a handful of +8s for myth track gear from vault
cerulean maple
at 500 ilvl you probably still have a lot of gear that'll need wyrms crests so d...
oh good point i kinda forgot abt different key ranges dropping diff crests
cerulean maple
ideally you do at least a handful of +8s for myth track gear from vault
what average key level do you need for vault to drop myth track gear?
full summit
ideally you do at least a handful of +8s for myth track gear from vault
im at 490 ilvl and i can't get into anything higher then a +3 lol and when i host my own group i sit here and nobody joins and my guild despises me
gusty mirage
+8 or higher
gusty mirage
im at 490 ilvl and i can't get into anything higher then a +3 lol and when i hos...
ye unfortunately a lot of people in LFG just want to be carried :/
full summit
skill issue for me? probably
cerulean maple
im at 490 ilvl and i can't get into anything higher then a +3 lol and when i hos...
wtf i never had this issue
gusty mirage
when realistically, anything up to a +10 is fair game if you're 490-500 ilvl
cerulean maple
befriend a healer
gusty mirage
because people were doing +10s week 1 with 482-486 gear 
cerulean maple
oh holy
full summit
theres only 2-3 people in my guild who do keys with me but they arent online rn
gusty mirage
the only people being elitist about ilvl are dickheads
cerulean maple
that sounds rough LMAO
full summit
the only people being elitist about ilvl are dickheads
true its annoying af
cerulean maple
then again if you're god gamers its just.. slower ig
gusty mirage
cause tbh ilvl doesn't mean shit
I had a 525 elemental shaman who did 153k overall in a key
sooo
full summit
like i'd say im good at the game and can pull shit off
gusty mirage
and I wish that were a typo
full summit
but im also not like serious over it but it would be nice to push keys and do shit
full summit
I had a 525 elemental shaman who did 153k overall in a key
thats embarrassing...
never touched elemental in my life and i bet i can do better LMAO
shy pecan
The only thing that might hurt your chances of creating a group are weeks like this week and finding a healer and tank if you chose to pick up two other dps that don’t have cleanses.
cerulean maple
I had a 525 elemental shaman who did 153k overall in a key
yikes
limber lion
I'm so bored I might log into WoW
shy pecan
I'm so bored I might log into WoW
grizzled mist
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limber lion
ssf poe with me
Group SSF 
cerulean maple
**Assassination Guides:**
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is one of these better than the other
gusty mirage
I'mma probably get a Ravenholdt private league going
shy pecan
I'mma probably get a Ravenholdt private league going
Invite plz
cerulean maple
pugs are shit
host your own
gusty mirage
is one of these better than the other
I can confirm that seli consulted on a lot of stuff from whispyr's wowhead guide
cerulean maple
ive never once been accepted into a group
at least if you host dungeons people like doing you can pick and choose
full summit
i sat here for half an hour and no applications the entire time :/
gusty mirage
so the IV one is good, but I know whispyr went bananas on information with his
shy pecan
My computer can play PoE now so must play when I can
cerulean maple
so the IV one is good, but I know whispyr went bananas on information with his
okay dope
slate crown
i sat here for half an hour and no applications the entire time :/
Yeah it's how it goes, just sucks
cerulean maple
thank u
full summit
mhm
cerulean maple
i sat here for half an hour and no applications the entire time :/
wtf
slate crown
Though, if you applied to a WME and didn't provide a password you won't get in
cerulean maple
maybe im just very lucky
full summit
holy shit a +4 took me
full summit
guys hylia is smiling upon me
waxen oyster
i did a hoi with a havoc that was playing rageheart
full summit
all of these dudes are way higher ilvl then me
waxen oyster
and he wasnt a vengeance main
royal lantern
you do a low key
full summit
the healer left
full summit
i knew something was off
royal lantern
thats concerning
waxen oyster
yeah keys below 12 you see some real creatures
cerulean maple
the amount of instant ragequits and just like
salty ass people i've seen in low key mythics
it's ROUGH esp when you're just trying to learn your spec and the dungeons
cerulean maple
right?
waxen oyster
cerulean maple
wish there were some like leaver timer tbh
but yh we had a run yday of doti (i think), got to 2nd boss, 2 people left. Run was perfect, 0 deaths, we were making good time as well
i died in an azure vault at one point and someone just said taxes and left 
royal lantern
yeah keys below 12 you see some real creatures
im a creature :3
shy pecan
:3
waxen oyster
im a creature :3
I did a hoi with a vdh that ran no spirit bomb buffing talents
or focused cleave
cerulean maple
I did a hoi with a vdh that ran no spirit bomb buffing talents
wtf were they even talented into
royal lantern
dreams and hopes
shy pecan
People try random shit all the time. And some just do random shit or think they're the shit and then get the shit beat outta them in keys.
ruby birch
<:what:805637246325751838> wtf were they even talented into
from the way that's worded im assuming they were just running the cheat build
shy pecan
I ran with some like 3k resto druid that played bear for the first time in some weekly 10 last season in BRH and died like 10 times to melees
runic hinge
I ran with some like 3k resto druid that played bear for the first time in some ...
What’s iron fur
shy pecan
What’s iron fur
31% uptime btw
waxen oyster
<:what:805637246325751838> wtf were they even talented into
idk what you call this
besides bad
shy pecan
royal lantern
What’s iron fur
shy pecan
Damn data aggregation sites misleading people
waxen oyster
idk why you would play no voidreaver
why even talent spirit bomb with no other of the buffing talents
shy pecan
Because it hits more than five targets? 😛
misty kernel
kinda sad to see that even when playing as much as zerocool the highest he has d...
there is a difference between playing alot & spaming keys i timed week 1 and 2 in the season coz community wanna play only aug/sp/mage so i have something to play
waxen oyster
I ran with some like 3k resto druid that played bear for the first time in some ...
also, last season 10s?
shy pecan
Err, 20s
misty kernel
kinda sad to see that even when playing as much as zerocool the highest he has d...
thats not a 20 timer while chilling no but who's gonna invite a rogue to a 20 when the community is so washed to the Exodia comp
@subtle tundra like when i always read your comments i laugh so hard for how clueless u r ngl xD
subtle tundra
getting reactions is what i like
misty kernel
if u dream about me at night tell me i can vanish so u stop dreaming about me
subtle tundra
lol
misty kernel
subtle tundra
seems like you care more about what i say than i care about you
youre just the only person playing assa so youre the only one i can type about
misty kernel
bro i dont care about u at all i get people whispering me in dms tleling me some random dog talking about u
why would i care about u
who the fuck are u xD
limber lion
Calm down
subtle tundra
what did i even say?
misty kernel
whatever man keep doing what u doing ❤️
subtle tundra
stop playing a victim
balmy condor
I'mma probably get a Ravenholdt private league going
inv
subtle tundra
ill talk about everyone 🙂
misty kernel
am not playing anything i just hate people spamming my dms telling me about u talking about me
stop mentioning my name ive never mentioned yours
its so simple
subtle tundra
huh
no
🙂
honestly now that i know it actively bothers you i might do it more often
balmy condor
!mute @subtle tundra 7d that's just straight up harassment go think about it man what are you doing
limber lion
I really want tea but all the stores are closed and I don't have milk in the fridge.
:(
pliant remnant
gusty mirage
cev might be british
spice surge
Ye cook me up a sunday roast with some good roasties
limber lion
tea and milk...?
Ya only drink black tea with milk
shy pecan
inner pelican
does pandemic apply to rogues?>
spice surge
yes
royal lantern
covid showed us that, yeha
royal lantern
its more like
you do until its not valuable anymore
during cds and burst windows you use every GCD, outside of them you start to go more into maintenance mode to conserve energy so you can keep envenom chains running as long as possible
!pooling
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Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back
- If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
- Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
- Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
- With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
royal lantern
^ explains it
glacial relic
Assa m+ meta
people dont think that way 
royal lantern
assa m+ meta?
assa cant survive 200000 1hit abilitys chained in a row mate
m+ is a well desinged game mode 
balmy condor
just revert m+ to fun aoe blaster game mode
we tried making it an esport
it didn't work
now make it fun
shy pecan
Yeah, less thinking, more blasting
merry marsh
!fuu
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ruby birch
they need to
remove all melee only mechanics from this game
the amount of tanks unable to play with a melee is crazy
bricking keys because tank cant fathom that he doesnt have to ad spam and go in circles around mobs that cleave
brazen zodiac
!wa
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Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
sudden kelp
Is there a list of abilities that are off GCD somewhere?
balmy condor
probably not
not sure that's really necessary honestly
ends up being uh
some defensives, shadow dance which is gone in 11.0, thistle tea, and cold blood
vanish I guess if you want to count that
it's a pretty short list
austere sorrel
Well now there is a list
slate crown
Applying stealth as well is off gcd
hexed elbow
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LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
placid adder
assa m+ meta?
if the community could only see
balmy condor
Well now there is a list
yeah I guess so
past forum
Just macro every ability together and see what goes on cd
glass hemlock
Does assa feel even better in high keys? I just did a few low ones to start learning after coming from a healer and I’m hooked
Only 500 ilvl at the moment
glass hemlock
Yeah hesitating with a KB etc makes me sad
balmy condor
you'll need to do that basically forever
runic hinge
I just feel good cause i basically insta delete a mob from a pack
and it's kinda whatever after that
pallid wagon
!guide
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pseudo hamlet
We're using Envenom on 4 or more combo points or something changed?
glass hemlock
I thought it was 5
earnest remnant
We're using Envenom on 4 or more combo points or something changed?
4+
and 5+ just before DM
pseudo hamlet
4+
and 5+ just before DM
Thanks!
thin furnace
4+ is only for envenom? Rupture is 5+?
thin furnace
Nice, thx
rotund oak
doing twice the dmg a ''3k'' frost mage does on a +10
bro must have forgotten his fingers or something
this season needs to go
and fast
hollow moss
!dagger
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tropic zodiac
I see people using the spender energy % reduction node instead of the extra CP from ambush
Tried it and now I feel like I struggle to build CP in KB windows in ST
Are they close in output ? What's the benefit ?
spice surge
It sims higher, the energy is more worthwhile than the CP
But its not a big difference either way
dark token
I see people using the spender energy % reduction node instead of the extra CP f...
I don't ambush in KB windows anyway
tropic zodiac
I don't ambush in KB windows anyway
You're not supposed to ? Why mutilate in SD ?
grim jay
You're not supposed to ? Why mutilate in SD ?
its some old thing
thats not really anything to worry about anymore
had to do with poison applications
it would only have a minor impact in the DM KB window
and even then its not worth the hassle
dark token
Couple of reasons to mut in shadow dance
- 2x poison applications
- MA in shadow dance means you have +30% crit during dance which means you have around 70-80% crit total. Let's say 75% crit as an example, this is a 93% chance of 3 cps (equivalent to an ambush), and a 56% chance at 4 cps (beats ambush)
I just completely unbound ambush from my bars
It's only used when forced blindside
Not a "hassle" imo
grim jay
I just completely unbound ambush from my bars
which is just worse
whispyr had a post about it for some time
and only using it for the KB DM window kinda is a hassle for the minimal gain it would represent
because you would need an extra bind just for that
unless anything changed from one season to another
limber lion
and only using it for the KB DM window kinda is a hassle for the minimal gain it...
More partivularly KB DM windows during Zoldyck
It's not worth the effort whatsoever
For a marginal gain if that
dark token
always mutilating in kb better than just mutilating in deathmark + KB, and it's easier to play with less hassle
and both options are always better than pressing ambush in all kb windows
(these sims were run on my character but its max gear anyway so)
so i just recommend people unbind ambush entirely and just mut
and this is why tight spender is just >>> the ambush talent
idk why people run it on logs they probably copy pasta their ST build from early s3 when blindside wasnt nerfed, its tight spender in every situation atm
nimble zinc
Couple of reasons to mut in shadow dance
1) 2x poison applications
2) MA in shad...
This. I’ve gotten like full combo points from one garotte.
nimble zinc
idk why people run it on logs they probably copy pasta their ST build from early...
Ya I always take tight spender. Especially in ST / raid / tyrannical because you don’t have bleeds on as many targets funneling your energy regen.
grim jay
This. I’ve gotten like full combo points from one garotte.
and how would that work
grim jay
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/64ar1TiawUNKEgA75GEHss
maybe changed over the course bcs of secondaries
nimble zinc
and how would that work
Garotte from stealth gives 3 combo points + more from the crit talent.
dark token
maybe changed over the course bcs of secondaries
yes we have more crit now thats why i started doing it
nimble zinc
Or in AOE your Garotte hits 3 targets from IC. so you get max combo points
dark token
did some sims and it was worth
limber lion
maybe changed over the course bcs of secondaries
Honestly probably changed because we stopped playing Improved Ambush
dark token
limber lion
Which was a must-pick until high gear s3
dark token
Honestly probably changed because we stopped playing Improved Ambush
ye this too idk if whispyr initial sims were with it or not
nimble zinc
How’d you get that much avoidance?
grim jay
Or in AOE your Garotte hits 3 targets from IC. so you get max combo points
hit the dummy and tell me it works like that for you
dark token
How’d you get that much avoidance?
i have avoidance on 3 mythic tier pieces + my dagger
m+ beast gear but no invites
nimble zinc
Sadge
nimble zinc
hit the dummy and tell me it works like that for you
Not on target dummies. On real pulls in m+
grim jay
Not on target dummies. On real pulls in m+
they literally work the same
garrote is 3 cp
dark token
you only get 3 cp from garrote since they bugfixed sin in early s3 i think
or maybe s1 even
it used to be 5 because you'd get additional cp from the extra targets
dark token
ye it was s1
people would garrote envenom garrote envenom in dance
realz didnt like that
gusty mirage
maybe changed over the course bcs of secondaries
no, that's always been the case but it's 0.2%
grim jay
no, that's always been the case but it's 0.2%
its more actually
with his sims
as "default apl" does muti on dm
gusty mirage
correct, which has always been what you do
grim jay
actually
it wasnt worth the hassle
so you didnt do any of it
because that was the 0.2
only ambush -> muti in dm was 0.2
unless I remember it completely wrong
but cev would remember it wrong aswell then
gusty mirage
plus that was originally simmed before the blindside nerf when we took improved ambush
so the gap widens when you swap to tight spender
dark token
with tight spender and higher secondaries its a super braindead minmax of 0.7% to always mut
doesnt require any gameplay
just drag mut to stealth bar
terse island
Hey guys just game back to season 4, wowhead suggests crafting blue lining on lifebound wrists and belt, if I want to use engineering bracers for ress which slot should I put the second patch on instead?
grim jay
Hey guys just game back to season 4, wowhead suggests crafting blue lining on li...
boots or belt
dark token
Hey guys just game back to season 4, wowhead suggests crafting blue lining on li...
neck
gusty mirage
I would do neck/belt
dark token
i have crafted neck and i cant find a wrist/neck combo to beat it
gusty mirage
because all the raid necks aren't anything special
terse island
sounds great I'll put it on neck, ty guys
dark token
head is meh because the enchant scales with ilvl
good crafted slots are neck/belt/wrist/boots, and ring if u dont care about diurna shield
grim jay
yeah it was just a bandaid until I actually get a 528
gusty mirage
I'll bandaid you until you get a 528
grim jay
there are enough sparks anyways
gusty mirage
grim jay
gusty mirage
grim jay
head is meh because the enchant scales with ilvl
yeah. I'll swap that once I get a mythic head, which might not happen the entire season anyways
crit head sims pretty good for m+ tho
gusty mirage
idk I've been an engi all of DF
grim jay
idk I've been an engi all of DF
I just switched for it
because fuck the others anyways
except alchi
kinda getting you nowhere for the rest of the expansion, as the gold is eh
since like after week 6 or something of s1
toxic olive
so i just recommend people unbind ambush entirely and just mut
guess you need a macro to prevent it turning into ambush regardless, similar to outlaw kir doing it for sinster strike
dark token
guess you need a macro to prevent it turning into ambush regardless, similar to ...
no u dont
free blindside procs are always worth to press
toxic olive
oh gotcha
toxic olive
yeah my outlaw brain just kicked in and filled in the blanks, still new to assa 🙂
toxic olive
i am getting up in age, so a bit lower apm specs are way more appealing to me nowadays 🙂
hexed frost
we are expecting alot of pirates rolling sin dw
rotund oak
https://tenor.com/view/exit-exit-pepe-saindo-vou-embora-sair-gif-25162644
u will be pressing those envenoms as hard as sinister strike
hexed frost
Respeccing properly is so costly and tiring that I rolled a assa alt and got it to 2200 rating
Just need ashes and grieftorch now
royal lantern
we are expecting alot of pirates rolling sin dw
ahahahahahhahahahahhahaa
susre man
"how much haste do i need to not run out of energy?????" 24/7 is allready enough here
rotund oak
once acro is gone we will be having immigrants all over this channel
whispyr gonna lose his mind
royal lantern
there is nothing he can lose anymore
rotund oak
true and real
limber lion
I doubt acro is any reason for people to swap specs
rotund oak
you arent rly reading the pirate channel are u
rotund oak
same here
but the drama is real in the pirate channel
dooming like a meteor about to annihilate mankind
hexed frost
once acro is gone we will be having immigrants all over this channel
I swear I can already see this group building the wall
balmy condor
I doubt acro is any reason for people to swap specs
Outlaws are already swapping because of it man
limber lion
But... it's the same spec
We don't have Acro
Why would they swap to Assassination just because they lose Acro
forest nacelle
age
balmy condor
Yes but outlaw is literally UNPLAYABLE without acro
forest nacelle
is why i swapped
limber lion
Damn
vestal wren
But... it's the same spec
ar also changes to be not a permanent buff
balmy condor
Outlaw has been in flames for a while now because the removal of acro and haste mattering now xd
vestal wren
so at least two more noticable changes
limber lion
But that's not what we're talking about Fuu
vestal wren
oh sry, i haven't followed the entire discussion
strange python
I mean acro does feel ass for outlaw since it affects bladeflurry too right
Not sure I don’t play pirate but
limber lion
I mean if Outlaw is bad and feels bad to play, then sure
strange python
It does sound annoying
vestal wren
they increased the range of blade flurry
strange python
Brother I got tricked into playing the spec for some weeks of this patch because I was like ima play something that looks really broken for this useless season
I cannot tell you
HOW BORING
A spec can be
forest nacelle
deva?
vestal wren
HOW BORING
try balance druid next
strange python
try balance druid next
I was a feral main if you think I didn’t try balance (because people force you into balance or you get benched) ur wrong
And yes
Balance is boring
But dev is even worse
Like far far worse
forest nacelle
im still stuck between assa rogue, and havoc so... i can't say much
vestal wren
fair, i shelved my evoker after leveling
strange python
fair, i shelved my evoker after leveling
Good choice
vestal wren
haven't touched it since
strange python
Although Pres is one of the most fun healers from a non healer perspective
Has a lot of cool combinations and stuff
vestal wren
think i plyed my dh in legion more than my evoker in DF
strange python
im still stuck between assa rogue, and havoc so... i can't say much
Havoc got really fun with their rework tbh and is way off from the stereotype of being the easiest spec
forest nacelle
yea
strange python
It’s proper fun now tbh and has a good amount of minmax
But also their playstyle now does have some problems
I would’ve benched myself on nymue if I was a havoc player
No way I’m doing that or any fight that is something where you don’t wanna zoom around
limber lion
Also if the only bandage holding Outlaw together is Acrobatic Strikes and 100% uptime on ADR, then the spec was doomed from the beginning.
limber lion
im still stuck between assa rogue, and havoc so... i can't say much
Sounds like an easy choice
tall jay
I made the switch to sin rogue for all content..was running outlaw for a while in M+ as @forest nacelle can attest, but my wrists started to hurt lol…something about getting old.
And then playing fury/arms on top…
forest nacelle
I made the switch to sin rogue for all content..was running outlaw for a while i...
tall jay
But, who knows what I will play if. Our hero talents are as bad as they are now
rotund oak
hows the outlaw conversion coming along :D?
its ok,slowly coming in,slowly but surely
forest nacelle
its ok,slowly coming in,slowly but surely
limber lion
Yeah a hard choice for sure
Assassination, Assassination or Assassination
I might just play Assassination
rotund oak
Assassination, Assassination or Assassination
gonna buy some cheetos and read the pirate channel all day after the first ''tuning''
this gonna be rly funny
hexed frost
Fellow bleedmaxxers
1>Does applying CT on single target during execute phase a dps gain? Even at the cost of 4p dropping off.
2>If running bleed build, which is more important between applying bleeds and keeping up 4p buff?
3>I know that IC does smart targetting, in that it prioritises new targets, so if I keep garotting the same target, the bleeds will be applied to different targets automatically?
limber lion
Fellow bleedmaxxers
1>Does applying CT on single target during execute phase a ...
-
You never press CT in single target or even on 2 targets. Only 4+.
-
You want to maintain and spread improved garrotes and CT as much as possible and aim to have max Scent stacks as much as possible even if 4p drops. Aggressively over-applying Ruptures/normal garrotes and having the 4p drop is not worth it.
-
Yes.
hexed frost
Also if the only bandage holding Outlaw together is Acrobatic Strikes and 100% u...
Outlaw was always an uptime based spec, but the S3 changes and tier was such a rabbit hole and uptimemaxxing was through the roof and made organic gameplay incredibly difficult.
limber lion
Outlaw was always an uptime based spec, but the S3 changes and tier was such a r...
We're not talking about people swapping to Assassination in S3. We're talking about TWW.
But yeh
hexed frost
Yeah I'm talking about TWW, like outlaw has gone into such a rabbit hole that going back w/o the current 4P will be really bad
limber lion
Ah right, I see
It'll be fine
Fire Mage survived going from 8.3 to Shadowlands
Everything else can too
runic hinge
But, who knows what I will play if. Our hero talents are as bad as they are now
It is the first week of beta. I’m gonna trust things will change
balmy condor
Trust is a strong word for what I’m feeling
tall jay
It is the first week of beta. I’m gonna trust things will change
In blizzard we trust?
blazing jewel
Always trust blizzrad 
toxic olive
I swear bm hunter is more fun than that
BM hunter somehow gets even easier in TWW - at least the Dark Ranger version. Basically you can't make Barbed Shot drop even if you try.
tall jay
It only took 15 years or so for our last rework lol
wraith spindle
quick question, im playing the cleave build. How do i use my CD's like SD/kingsbane and death mark in an scenario? when should i be using fan of knives on X amount of targets?
tall jay
A bit of an exaggeration but sill
balmy condor
quick question, im playing the cleave build. How do i use my CD's like SD/kings...
CDs on the biggest target and pray it lives the full duration (probably won’t)
Fok always on 3+
crimson pasture
Sin in low keys is cursed
clever sapphire
true
some pulls SD is my top dmg
because im done spreading bleeds
and mobs are already 35%
so they go boom
snow spear
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Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
royal lantern
Always trust blizzrad <:pepeW:945862126273191987>
i trust them to make my hyped AF with announcments and still manage to dissapoint me somehow by doing the most halfassed and stupid desisicions after that
clever sapphire
imagine getting hyped
clever sapphire
blizzard wins the moment you get hyped
atomic badger
!talent
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vale shore
!fuu
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hearty reef
hi whyspir
cerulean maple
why even talent spirit bomb with no other of the buffing talents
isnt that talent shit
idr vdh tree well
replied to the wrong message oops
but maybe they specced spirit bomb just to have smth for bigger pulls..?
shy pecan
No, gives you fel dev basically every 24-30 seconds.
cerulean maple
No, gives you fel dev basically every 24-30 seconds.
i thought that was the "if youre about to die, you don't, every 8 minutes" (or whatever) talent
am i mixing things up
shy pecan
That's last resort.
chilly dagger
Good day one can tell me why he says I should take verse instead of mastery although mastery is the best ? in general, someone can tell me what the best talent tree is
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
chilly dagger
my stat are 31% crit 13% haste i dont have ashe 80% mastery 27% verse
chilly dagger
Secondly, it's not recommending Vers, it's recommending Crit.
y sure but i have mastery ring from BH
chilly dagger
sorry for my question but i am a new rogue player
limber lion
It's okay
normal mist
You care about Ilvl more than secondary stats. You can and should sim yourself
normal mist
Yes. I read half the conversation and just gave him a tldr it seems lol
Assassination working the way it does makes the spec so simple and at the same time so hard to explain to players that are used to "X and Y stat are BiS and you don't want Z stat ever"
clever sapphire
wew primal council
ah heroic log, i was wondering why i didnt find that dmg on mythic
plucky thistle
Can we obtain transmog as character from talents? I think most similar is T2 red set
slate crown
I particularly like the green highlights and the big boo-I mean the ti- I mean the uh uhh the boots yeah those.
plucky thistle
I hope she have some subreddit 😄
normal mist
I particularly like the green highlights and the big boo-I mean the ti- I mean t...
Definitely the best part
And then the boots ofc
limber lion
🧐
slate crown
normal mist
I said what I said
hearty reef
is valeera a fatebound or a deathstalker?
normal mist
A legend
plucky thistle
Idk why but i like the other one costume with bo**s 😄
slate crown
Legend track character is higher than hero track character
so no need for hero talents
normal mist
Idk why but i like the other one costume with bo**s 😄
I'm almost sure that transmog uses cloth items
Head/pants
hearty reef
the classic mage T5 scam
next dust
!wa
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Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
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cerulean maple
kind of silly request but
does any1 have a clip of playing assa in like a big mythic pull just so i can get an idea of what it SHOULD look like
junior aurora
you all need to touch grass
i need to touch that ass
primal blaze
Is wowhead assa guide viable
normal mist
Absolutely
tall jay
Only guide worth a salt…
cerulean maple
is there a way to make this only castable if youre in gcd so i dont accidentally desync them
sullen kiln
is there a build for sepsis or bonespike being talented?
waxen oyster
is there a build for sepsis or bonespike being talented?
whats stopping you from making one
sullen kiln
nothing really! was just curious if one was out there already.
blazing jewel
Crab build crab build crab build
cerulean maple
is crab build any good at all
barren yarrow
so id really like to understand something, i watched whyspers video about how the websites that label things "BIS" should be taken with a grain of salt, but i honestly feel lost because i dont know what i SHOULD be aiming for or what dungeons to get.
im familiar with siming but honestly i have NO CLUE how to do the more specific things. I know how to quick sim and find upgrades but i guess this is the BIS symdrome will my stat weights matter the way i think they will?
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
normal mist
Simming whatever gear you have is optimal
all 4 stats are good for assa
You just don't want too much of a single stat, but to maintain them "leveled"
waxen oyster
I mean there’s trinket bis
Other stats not really
One could argue dreamcarver is better for qol but the effects dont really matter.
crimson pasture
where in details can i find when i vanish it doesnt reset the meters when im hitting target dummy?
runic hinge
!details
prisma monolithBOT
To stop details from resetting on vanish, go into the settings and under Overall Data, make sure "Use Dynamic Overall Damage" is checked.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1173432355785027584/details_vanish.png
lament belfry
Is there any merit to going lethality/acro instead of alacrity/deeper stratagem like kush?
gusty mirage
Ye, acro is a dps increase even though it won't appear in sims
slate crown
There is for now, but don't get too comfy with it
It is a comfy warm blanket that will get taken away from you
gusty mirage
in 2.5 months no less
silk bane
in 2.5 months no less
is your ret ready for tww
gusty mirage
I refunded tww already
silk bane
smart, maybe i follow your lead then. lost ark is starting to get fun
keen spruce
I refunded tww already
lean portal
is rogue that deadge in tww ?,
autumn frost
I don't have incandescent stone yet. Do I use shadowflame enchant since i have the eranog ring? I do have grieftorch
ruby birch
no
just use a diff ring if you cant proc the effect or keep it if you need the vers
bsl is too good, the ring wont make up the difference in loss of dps
autumn frost
the difference isn't bsl though. it's wafting devotion vs shadowflame enchant