#assassination

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slate crown
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I've gotten to a point where I go through an entire rotation, pace out my envenoms, and I honestly end a fight with tea charges left

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because I literally didn't use them during my pool phase because I'm comfy with the pooling

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I know that's wrong, I need to spend on energy

balmy condor
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Again, secondaries don’t really matter

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You should avoid stacking anything super hard

slate crown
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But like, my brain isn't clawing at me thinking I'm starved for energy

strange python
dark token
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Like 2x on my deathmark on pull, 1x on kingsbane, 2x on deathmark, 1x rest of fight

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The energy is kinda w/e as long as ur not overcapping

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Or it's often 2x 2x 1x

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Cause you run out of gas start of 2nd kingsbane often

fast belfry
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i know it's not optimal but i have a question: does ic prioritize targets without garrote if i use multiple garrotes on the same target?

normal mist
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yes

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it goes 3-2-2

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if you keep garroting the same target

bleak ledge
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has anyone just had mutilate straight up disappear from the spellbook?

spice surge
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Yes, it happens if you swap spec while blindside is up

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Relogg fixes it

ruby birch
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Huh

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You have dm for every other and kb for every

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You will have something for every single intermission…

balmy condor
ruby birch
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Yes

balmy condor
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Okay so tell me how that lines up

ruby birch
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Pick up orb use kb

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Next time it happens

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Pick up orb use dm

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Next time do the same and use kb

balmy condor
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So you’re holding your CDs

ruby birch
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For like 10-15 seconds?

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It’s not absolutely perfect timing but you have damage for every intermission

balmy condor
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For 30 seconds

ruby birch
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Why 30

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You don’t pop dm kb at 0:00

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And first intermission isn’t 1:30 in

balmy condor
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You said you hold for every intermission

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Kb is 60 seconds

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(Not that it’s correct to do that in the first place but ya know whatever)

ruby birch
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afaik you only miss the second amp popping on cd with sub 5 min kill timer

balmy condor
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Correct

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The second amp is the one that sucks for uptime

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Assa doesn’t hold for intermissions on smold

ruby birch
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yeah ig its not every intermission but you only miss second one but you can delay orbs no?

balmy condor
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Not by much

ruby birch
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rip then ig

slate crown
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my second time using this base image today

silk bane
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mines better tbh

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thank you LE for it

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we love LE

balmy condor
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That was the timing with double Aug simps

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Which doesn’t make sense anymore

gilded oasis
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you dont make sense anymore

balmy condor
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The meme should just be “open lorrgs”

silk bane
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how about you open these ntus

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or w/e they say

runic hinge
runic hinge
runic hinge
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lmfao gottem

gilded oasis
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reallymad got me

brazen zodiac
runic hinge
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you cant use my magic against me

brazen zodiac
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gottem !!

runic hinge
brazen zodiac
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gotta look out for mr. zar out here ....

runic hinge
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miss?

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uhh

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idk i don' think she's married

brazen zodiac
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either way we lookin out for em cx cx

runic hinge
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cx

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okay

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i love that

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im using it now

brazen zodiac
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but also, ms. zar* cx

runic hinge
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im a boomer

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and im taking your slang

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kiddo

brazen zodiac
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nono i mean i was correcting myself hehe

runic hinge
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cx

unreal parcel
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
gilded oasis
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literally do no care you can call me mr dude mrs idiot. its the internet i dont give a fuck what people call me just dont call me past 10pm cause im old and ill be asleep

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gottem

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gotme I guess

earnest tapir
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Hello, do someone know if there is way to make a macro with vanish and shadowmeld on the same button to cast shadowmeld only when vanish in on cd ?

balmy condor
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No, that would require a macro knowing if something is on cooldown

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Which is not possible

runic hinge
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damn that dude is smart

gilded oasis
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imagine if macros weer smart tho

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I actually dont want to imagine it

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I made us all brownies

worldly nebula
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Hey there, new assa player here. Where can I find macros like the mutilate/ambush one? Its not on wowhead or anyhwere

gilded oasis
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mut turns into ambush during a blindside proc and then you can put ambush on your stealth bar if you want so you dont really need a macro for that.
Main one is shadow dance/KB but I think that is on wowhead? we dont have a ton o macros

worldly nebula
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oh you are right

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Thought itd be like a "known spell" thing macro

gilded oasis
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honestly most my macros are like focus kick etc for m+ or shit lol

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yeah its kinda nice ti swaps

worldly nebula
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How bad is playing assa from a ST perspective with toxic boots+patch. compared to lining

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Maybe i interpret the sheet wrong

gilded oasis
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uh thats a Whispyr question, I dont THINK it really matters that much tbh unless youre trying to crazy min max?

gilded oasis
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nah I only enjoy assasination spec channel

brave gyro
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That's pretty sad to be so limited in the things you enjoy 😛

runic hinge
gilded oasis
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all my dudes are here

gilded oasis
runic hinge
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okay

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next christmas

runic hinge
gilded oasis
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ya ill put you on the Santa Zar list

balmy condor
runic hinge
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YASSSSSSSS

balmy condor
worldly nebula
gilded oasis
balmy condor
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I’ll dox myself right now don’t tempt me

gilded oasis
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I have a very long and secure list of internet people addresses you won't dox dont worry

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I think I have 25. Most are booted off the list tho so I got spaces open

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heres the last set I sent out. I dont think addresses are visible LOL

balmy condor
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God damn

gilded oasis
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its a lot of work. like a few weekends and 25+ hrs. Blizzcon saved me a lot of time last year

runic hinge
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oh im getting on the list

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only because i work for usps and i need zar to support my work

brave gyro
gilded oasis
gilded oasis
brave gyro
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At a certain point, you might wanna rent a kitchen, if it's possible somwhere near you, big ones, with multiple ovens

brazen zodiac
brave gyro
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to truly pop cooking CDs

gilded oasis
brave gyro
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oof i can imagine

runic hinge
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so do ground advantage and try and keep it as cheap as you can

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there isnt a difference for priority or GA anymore

gilded oasis
gilded oasis
runic hinge
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yeah well

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blame some rude politicians

gilded oasis
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ez done

runic hinge
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but uhh at least in my plant in maine

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everything gets sorted the same

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I am not happy about it

gilded oasis
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Hm intersting

runic hinge
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i have aired my grievences

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but alas i am just a cog

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and a very small one

gilded oasis
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yeah my aunt works for our usps I hear some of her grievences

runic hinge
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don't get me started

brazen zodiac
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:/

daring minnow
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when's mastery start to DR

rocky rover
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When running simulation what weapons rune does it run with?

runic hinge
prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

balmy condor
lament belfry
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Haste is miles ahead of agi&mastery on my sims

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feels strange recrafting everything away from mastery

balmy condor
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That’ll happen when you don’t have much haste

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Double Wafting gives a good amount but you usually need a fair amount on gear as well

pliant terrace
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damn I kinda fried on gnarlroot tonight

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almost 700k without pi

quiet oar
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Whisp

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im really jealous of you

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Skipping this season

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this is prolly the most boring Wow ever has been for me

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Only remix is a light in the dark

balmy condor
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I learned my lesson last expac

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I saw it, said “nuh uh”

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And didn’t play

quiet oar
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Well, last expac fated was actually fun for me

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BEcause it did acutally something new

balmy condor
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My guild was like ITLL BE FUN ITLL BE COOL

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And then fated almost shattered my guild

stuck knoll
quiet oar
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Last fated had a new Dungeon Pool and Affixes in Raids, which did result in a "different" experience

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But awakaned is just copy paste

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without any effort

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really boring

brave gyro
quiet oar
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and everything is bugged

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and not balanced

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They balance Remix more than they balanced S4

stuck knoll
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I don’t trust blizz to make an affix that doesn’t make it the worst experience ever

quiet oar
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Ye

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The new 4 placeholders

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make me monkaS

balmy condor
stuck knoll
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Same

quiet oar
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Like Afflicted and Incorporeal?

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Really good additions Okay

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Excluding classes

stuck knoll
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Love not being able to interact with an affix

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And just relying on others

quiet oar
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Only affix that was good

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is entangling

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easy managable affix

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not too annoying

balmy condor
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My guild had to reprog fated and they stuck to a 2x a week schedule and it burnt the fuck out of people reprogging and everyone got pissed and screamed at each other

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We nearly lost like half the roster

quiet oar
balmy condor
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And then during vault we actually lost half the roster

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Having to recruit two tanks is big pog

quiet oar
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Its even worse now

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Because of all this hard phases

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Sarkareth is fucking annoying

balmy condor
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They’re much more chill about it

stuck knoll
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My old guild did explode

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But I was heading anyway

quiet oar
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Like, im not sure if it wouldve caused more harm, to drag each season 2 months more

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or this awakaned season now

stuck knoll
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I’d rather have done more Ammir than this shit tbh

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Especially early season when nothing worked

balmy condor
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Idk man I’m happy I’m a grass toucher now

stuck knoll
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Finding out your leggo couldn’t be upgraded

balmy condor
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I get home from work at 12

stuck knoll
balmy condor
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I do some chores

stuck knoll
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Maple time

balmy condor
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Now I get to spin some bowling balls

quiet oar
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Look at him, touching grass

balmy condor
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And resurface them

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It’s a great time

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It’s a full ass arm workout too

quiet oar
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was like a egg hunt on eastern

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Who finds which bug

balmy condor
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I’m fixing one of my friends balls that got a gouge

balmy condor
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180 grit -> 500 grit -> 1500 grit -> 2000 grit -> polish

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It’s a process

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My forearm is burning

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That’s how you know you’re doing good work

stuck knoll
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Do you play for free?

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Or is it just a discount

balmy condor
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I play for free

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Also something I’ve been unironically enjoying

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Hearthstone duos

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They had battlegrounds duos at blizzcon

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And it was insanely fun

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I stayed up with a friend playing battleground duos until like 5am the other night

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Was so much fun

quiet oar
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Thats the best thing

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playing with friends till 5 am

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without noticing

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good times

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That happened with me and remix

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I actually enjoy Remix more than actual WoW rn

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There is actual content

dim mural
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Haven't touched remix. My impression is the cloak makes everything faceroll, true or not?

quiet oar
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Cloak does nothing

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Compared to ilvl on your gear

normal mist
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They are

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But you also get a lot of bronze everywhere

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And the better your ilvl the faster you can clear heroic raids and the faster people accept you on their group

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Upgrading gear makes everything faster, literally

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I got a 10 ilvl jump yesterday

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Went from 430 pieces to 476(?) pieces

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Just from doing daily content and managed to clear all 5 raids in heroic

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I started the day at 400ilvl and ended at 414

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Gatekeep what?

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The event is 90 days long

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Cap really

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It's getting easier to start for casual players

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They increased quest rewards, daily rewards, they increased pretty much everything

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I did ALL the quest lines before the buff so I lost a bunch of bronze

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I spent like 100k bronze in the first week buying mounts and not upgrading gear

quiet oar
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The first 2 weeks

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there were less Bronze and thread incomes

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They just dont want you to bruteforce farming till 476

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But they were way to slow

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with all the fixes

normal mist
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No

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Oh

quiet oar
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You make the raid yourself

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or get someone to invite you

normal mist
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A full normal raid clear is easy

quiet oar
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@normal mist Is in my backpack the last few days

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For normal its whatever

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You can make 1 upgrade per day

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with 1 hour of play time

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maybe 2

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so if you do 2 hours of daily stuff a day

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you are done in 2 weeks

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Remix is its own season imo

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Its a spinoff season of the actual Season 4

normal mist
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I'm just trying to get strong enough to carry 300ilvl people thru heroic

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Atleast mogu and hof

quiet oar
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i mean for mogu and Hof you jsut need 1-2 476

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No it wasnt thought trhough

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they needed 2 weeks to fix basic stuff

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But if you abused early like me

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like ward and farms

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You are done already

normal mist
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Yep I'm just forcing Tiramil to play with me at this point (jk he's pretty cool)

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In theory you're not supposed to do HC with LFR gear

drifting cloud
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do heroic retail raid with -100 ilvl and tell us how it goes

quiet oar
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Ye

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Is it?

normal mist
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How come

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Harder fights require more gear

quiet oar
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Ye but 493 is normal ilvl

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LFr is 480

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You still get one shot, or almost one shot by most stuff

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Thats even more extrem in keys

drifting cloud
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on mythic raszageth in s1 my char had 350k hp, now I have 1350k

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and thats basically the same as doing hc vault or hc siege

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obv tuning isnt perfect but if your char has under 1mil hp thats just the way it goes

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theres also 80 days left

quiet oar
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Ye

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timeframe is very generous

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They just fucked up, letting people already finish it

drifting cloud
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Im on some mount farming discord people crying about fomo

normal mist
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Tldr normal remix with 346-370 items is easily doable.
Heroic, for you to actually make a difference, 400+ ilvl items

drifting cloud
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when the event isnt even 20% done is just ridic

quiet oar
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Also

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all the mounts

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you can get by doing the stuff

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just be lucky

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???

drifting cloud
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I mean I guess in theory sure, but thats not the way they went about it

quiet oar
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So upgrading is compeltely useless and people progress with lower ilvl??

drifting cloud
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if you wanna get stuff done but dont like playing it, just do your 2x daily hc, scenario and 1 lfr wing

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for passive 10k bronze / day

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reasses in a month

quiet oar
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If you would get higher ilvl in heroic

spare mist
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Hello guys, I am new here, has anyone figured out what's the best rogue spec for MOP remix? I'm at 440 ilvl and I feel like I do 0 dps as outlaw atm compared to the other classes

quiet oar
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nobody would upgrade their 346 gear

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they would try to bruteforce bosses

quiet oar
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If heroic drops 425

spare mist
quiet oar
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why upgrade

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Ye but you suggested hc dropping higher

normal mist
quiet oar
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Ye but why would you upgrade then

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You would just try to bruteforce heroic bosses to get free ilvl

drifting cloud
quiet oar
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and heroic actually gives you extra stats

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with epic items

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Its still a fun gamemode, and not a thing you should progress

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The raids should be trivalized

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I mean yes that what happens when you jsut upgrade

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and play the game and get brozne

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I agree that bronze is still a bit too low

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Because retail is the "real" mmo gameplay ??

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and Remix is just a fun mode?

normal mist
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You get so much bronze for heroic raiding tho

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I was getting like 10+ bronze per run

quiet oar
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and skipping few tiers would make it too fast

floral reef
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like this?

drifting cloud
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well for tot and siege you get less than just brute farming bronze 😄

quiet oar
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ye

runic matrix
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im just confused why they put player power and cosmetics/mounts under the same currency

quiet oar
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Ye

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thats the weird thing

runic matrix
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most people who complain spent most of their bronze on cosmetics first

quiet oar
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Ye

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While upgrading their stuff, would make their life now very easy

drifting cloud
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I mean I get it, it feels turbo bad to upgrae your gear if your end goal is just to get tmogs

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but then people will just change their criteria and suddenly also want every title and achiev

quiet oar
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I mean you can also just level a toon

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and get the 40K plus prolly 30K by lvling

drifting cloud
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and end of the day AGAIN were 14 days in into a 95 day event

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and some people have nothing left to spend bronze on

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youll be fine with 80days left

quiet oar
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Im done with raids already

normal mist
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I'm missing Soo mythic

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That will be fun

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I intend to do it once I reach max ilvl

toxic olive
drifting cloud
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yeah people do some multibox strats + starter acc apparently you can boost urself to 70 in under 3h

quiet oar
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Ye

drifting cloud
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so that makes it better bronze/h than anything else

quiet oar
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You get insane amoutn of threads

drifting cloud
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if you only want mogs

quiet oar
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and Bronze

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but cba doing that

toxic olive
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It’s super chill to do on the side but I don’t try hard it. At the end I will be able to buy most stuff I really want and the rest is whatever

drifting cedar
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Sarka back for raid only good or sim bait?

spice surge
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Its a slight dps gain yes, but it comes at the cost of ~5% of your health, so i wouldnt use it on bosses you are struggling on

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And its not good in keys

toxic olive
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Also breaks stealth on a regular wouldn’t go for it

spice surge
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well ye, thats why its not good in keys

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But for raid stealth doesnt matter

mystic osprey
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Whats the highest kingsbane crit you guys are getting?

normal mist
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The biggest CRIT I rarely see is "parry"

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It crits my heart

floral reef
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smile

spice surge
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Augs kinda scuff it too unfortunately

floral reef
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our evoker swaps between dev and aug so sometimes i think im megablasting but just getting simped

potent raven
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so true

normal mist
grim bison
normal mist
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Source : trust me

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Not using iron wire is also a DPS gain

quiet oar
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i dont trust

normal mist
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Trust

quiet oar
normal mist
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I believe that source

subtle stream
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It’s probably came up, but what’s the best tactic for AoE without IC/CT? (Using Caustic Splatter) is it worth it to try your get Caustic Splatter up on multiple targets? Once you get Caustic up, does the prio switch from Mutilate to FoK? I think I’ve incorrectly been giving FoK zero love with caustic splatter.

royal lantern
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read splatter again

dark crag
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Caustic is 1 target only

clever sapphire
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there are so many things wrong with that question

brave stump
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would you play sark cape as assa in m+?

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since it isnt as bugged as outlaw?

dark crag
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Did you mutilate all mobs?

subtle stream
stoic bramble
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Ashes or Grieftorch more important to get at start?

subtle stream
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Ashes

dark crag
royal lantern
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please read what splatter does

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understand your abilitys

floral reef
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pick a mob, get spatter up and success

subtle stream
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If caustic is on multiple, wouldn’t FoK trigger splatter overlap? Or is that just silly

floral reef
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caustic cant be on multiple

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it will just swap to that target instead

royal lantern
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read

what splatter

does

please

there is a "1 TARGET ONLY" part

subtle tundra
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Damn the reading comprehension devil got another

dark crag
subtle stream
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K. Groovy. The place I’m reading the tooltip doesn’t say that Tryan

clever sapphire
floral reef
royal lantern
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use sark cloak

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sometimes stealth ends, w/e, its not a big deal really, never had any shit happening cus of that

floral reef
subtle stream
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I get it. Thanks.

subtle tundra
clever sapphire
subtle tundra
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I wish I could read

subtle stream
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No need to get douchy

subtle tundra
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Ty

clever sapphire
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aight nicer answer, spread bleeds, put up spatter on one mob, spam fok in 4+ targets for CP

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mutilate the mob of your choice to keep spatter up only

grim jay
stoic bramble
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Is there atm a standard build for raids?

grim jay
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and as always its in the guides

stoic bramble
royal lantern
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what changed

grim jay
clever sapphire
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everyone is spicy today

grim jay
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all the stuff and knowledge in here is provided by the same person that does the guides

subtle tundra
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I'm freaky

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What if instead of assassination we were freakynation

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And we made out

grim jay
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doom aside, we have a dedicated group of people for that

royal lantern
grim jay
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I never touched that thread

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and I think its good that I didnt

gusty mirage
royal lantern
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:3 is a blessed place

no bad vibes, only :3

grim jay
subtle tundra
gusty mirage
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still quake

subtle tundra
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I can go freaky with him

gusty mirage
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he'd be offended if you didn't

gusty mirage
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community figure

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fancy green name

sharp viper
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ah, I was ready to bet on Crimson Fempest

spice surge
junior aurora
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oh cool shmeeps is here

spice spire
latent copper
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is there a playstile for M+ i can use Acrobatic Strike and dont loose much dmg?

clever sapphire
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i just found the best guy ever

junior aurora
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Draenei sus

clever sapphire
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afflicted by that toy

clever sapphire
latent copper
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or Alacrity. Dunno im knew in assa but how do you handle that Mobs in M+ with their AOE effects? So often to run out

clever sapphire
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get used to it dracthyr_shrug

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also cant take a point out of alacrity without losing deeper strat

latent copper
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true

clever sapphire
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but i would just get used to not playing acro

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since you wont have it in tww anyways

latent copper
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oh ok

calm tendon
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just returned today. so for assa m+ we should by dagger, ashes and diurna ring? or should it be better to buy boon instead of ring?

maiden rover
spice spire
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????

potent raven
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no dont buy boon

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buy ring

calm tendon
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in s1 mythic boon was amazing .

potent raven
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its up to you

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u can use it as ur 2nd trinket

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ashes is always #1 but 2nd u can buy

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grieftorch or boon

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the value of grieftorch is quite nice b.c ppl die in m+

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boon is risky

calm tendon
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yeah but i played boon already in s1

potent raven
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ok

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play boon then

calm tendon
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are we still getting bullions next weeks or is 6 the cap?

delicate imp
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Question is Nick of time really the best OH for ass rogue?

potent raven
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yea technically by like 0,3% i think

delicate imp
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the 2nd strike proc alot?

spiral mist
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in keys do you generally save dance for ic dotting or send with kb?

potent raven
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u can do that while also using kb

celest helm
woeful meteor
spice surge
spice spire
celest helm
celest helm
spice spire
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God need that.
I mean yeah man, love ur bits on showing those frauds that sin is the superior spec (even when spriest is omega rn)

delicate imp
potent raven
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i wuvv sin

celest helm
spice spire
#

Amen. Show those wannabe title spriest frauds prayge

celest helm
#

they provide me PI and good screenshots of high overall (im not padding plz no check logs)

spice spire
#

I’m gonna check logs

celest helm
#

some of my overalls are cursed, absolute pad fiesta

spice spire
#

61k dps caustic in uldaman

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Basado

celest helm
#

Tyr weeks i try to be ethical ish

spice spire
#

Logs approved by some random who hasn’t played in six months suskaygeagreegebusiness

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Good enough for me

quiet oar
#

Thanks quake

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You my favourite Log reviewer

spice spire
#

I hate it here

quiet oar
#

But you need it

#

why else would you be here

spice spire
#

Because I love the homies

quiet oar
#

I see monkahmm

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So the love overcomes the hate

spice spire
#

Correct

quiet oar
#

Make love

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Not warcraft

spice spire
#

It’s amazing to me that episode is referenced almost 20 years later

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Incredible

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Wdym ?

#

Mf acts like I’m the only one that loves the homies damn

gusty mirage
#

you literally customize those cringe ass copy and paste memes every holiday

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to harass me

spice spire
#

Hahaha

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Yeah I definitely did do that April 2022 and saved them

quiet oar
#

20 years ago

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i was 6

spice spire
#

Oh

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Fuck

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I’m old

#

Honestly tho oxi - pastas are probably my opus

quiet oar
#

WoW is 20 Years old quake

#

think about that

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that game is older than some adults

spice spire
#

I already have

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And not quite 20 yet

#

But let’s be real it’s 20

quiet oar
#

Beta started in 2003

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?

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2004

grim jay
quiet oar
#

The year i went to the elementary school Classic

quiet oar
grim jay
quiet oar
grim jay
spice spire
ember mural
#

Just remember WoW is older than YouTube PES_BlankieThumbsUp

quiet oar
#

Well if we dont count betas, we shouldnt count the first seasons of the Addons

spice spire
ember mural
spice spire
#

Both things can be true bozo

gusty mirage
ember mural
vestal wren
#

i prefere youtube over wow

spice spire
#

Damn

gusty mirage
grim jay
#

sounds shitty

gusty mirage
vestal wren
gusty mirage
#

si

shy pecan
spice spire
#

You’re older

shy pecan
grim jay
#

you both kinda sound pretty old

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ive been told there shouldnt be a discussion about old age without mentioning quake and seli

spice spire
#

💀

gusty mirage
#

seli isn't even the oldest staff member here

grim jay
waxen oyster
#

arent the admins ancient

grim jay
#

we lately decided that im old with 28

gusty mirage
grim jay
#

rosvall?

waxen oyster
#

fitting how assa channel has the boomer talk

gusty mirage
#

rosvall and stjern are probably the youngest of the old guard

waxen oyster
#

ngl

grim jay
#

dang

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rosvall always so mature when he types

gusty mirage
#

he's a good dude

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super cool too when you get to know him

grim jay
#

yeah he always had some good input

waxen oyster
#

tbh anyone relevant on this game pre mop

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is likely in their 30s

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or older

#

Idk why it is but it seems mostly pvpers that become big in their given scene at a younger age.

gusty mirage
#

I mean Pika's 25 now

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he's getting up there

quiet oar
keen spruce
#

Oldness is a state of mine

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mind

floral reef
#

the twitch scene in mop

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take me back

keen spruce
#

do you make a noise when you stand up from your chair?

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u old

rotund osprey
#

Hey boys, very new to rogue and loving Assassination so far, so got some questions.
Sims telling me Voice of the Silent Star is nearly twice as big upgrade as Seal of Diurnas. Is it super int to use it if I'm planning to hop in some mythic raids with this alt? Don't really see how I'm supposed to proc the ring apart from head enchant and Grieftorch

waxen oyster
#

I mean his first r1 if I recall was in start of mop

quiet oar
#

Take me back to a time where Youtube and witch wasnt about meta whoring

gusty mirage
waxen oyster
#

so he was 13

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when he got it

rotund osprey
gusty mirage
#

nah, you just give up some stamina for a proc

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it's more damage

quiet oar
#

Cant play games anymore without 50 Videos about why this items is 0.1% bettet than the other one

gusty mirage
#

it's kinda ass to play in keys cause it knocks you out of stealth if anyone gets in range of you

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but besides that it's good

waxen oyster
#

I do find it funny the pvp scene of rogue

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is known for having some young asf ones

waxen oyster
#

kalvish is like 16

gusty mirage
#

if you plan on doing high keys, I'd skip the cloak because assa dies in higher keys

keen spruce
#

Palumor making videos again NODDERS

gusty mirage
#

and sacrificing the stamina isn't worth it

waxen oyster
#

best cloak for keys is catalyze the sark cloak

gusty mirage
#

is that actually confirmed

waxen oyster
#

only if you have one from vault

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or boss drop

gusty mirage
#

neat

waxen oyster
#

you cant catalyze the bullion one apparently

quiet oar
#

Yep

grim jay
#

what else will you do with the thing

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people probably have everything set anyways

waxen oyster
#

buy brood ring to be more tanky

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clearly

floral reef
#

im getting broodkeeper ring over sark cloak

gusty mirage
#

I have no idea what you're saying

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but

rotund osprey
#

So for raid it's fine but ass for M+? Honestly don't know if the ring is worth it at all or if I should just get a bis stats one

grim jay
gusty mirage
keen spruce
gusty mirage
#

that other rings don't have

waxen oyster
#

isnt that ring decent for assa

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since higher ilvl

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more stats

gusty mirage
#

and there is no "bis stat" for assa

grim jay
#

yeah statwise decent

waxen oyster
#

and assa isnt stat particular

grim jay
#

but the shield is bait

waxen oyster
#

hps parse

gusty mirage
#

it's a free shield

spice spire
#

Real

gusty mirage
#

how is that bait

spice spire
#

Give me that hps parse

rotund osprey
#

Just stacking mast / crit atm, should I not?

keen spruce
rotund osprey
#

Dont have enough Haste i think

quiet oar
keen spruce
#

stats change all the time

gusty mirage
#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

rotund osprey
keen spruce
#

or rather, stats are completely relative to your current gear

gusty mirage
#

ye as long as you're just top gearing every so often

#

you're chillin

spice spire
#

Loosely, yes. But you’ll have to sim a bit. We like some stats more than other, but eventually you’ll end up pretty agnostic to any one specific stat and kinda just go with whatever robot tells you

rotund osprey
#

Literally top gearing every five minutes

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It's chronic

grim jay
# gusty mirage how is that bait

like you get a random shield proc at whatever time and it wont save you from anything. your heal will heal just the same with a little more overheal now and due to how unreliable it is, it wont save you from the important stuff thats oneshots

gusty mirage
#

ye you're straight chilling

keen spruce
#

so if you have a billion crit and mastery, sims will probably tell you to get some haste or vers at some point since assas is pretty balanced as far as the stats it wants

spice spire
gusty mirage
keen spruce
#

and it's not going to make a big difference either way

grim jay
gusty mirage
#

multispec, good meme

spice spire
#

Multi spec in this economy?

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In this meme ass season?

grim jay
#

and also a slot for brezz

gusty mirage
#

as if you can't just fire off that ring as outlaw/sub and be just fine KEKL

grim jay
gusty mirage
#

you brezz on your ring?

grim jay
#

its an embellishment

#

that you dont need to use on bracer or head

gusty mirage
#

maybe you should think about how you can put it on belt, bracers, or boots if you wanted to

grim jay
#

with little loss

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yeah with higher loss

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great

gusty mirage
#

yes very big loss 3 ilvl

#

huge

#

game breaking loss

grim jay
#

its a difference

#

its not nothing

gusty mirage
#

sure

waxen oyster
#

isnt 10 ilvl on a ring

#

also a loss

gusty mirage
#

yes

rotund osprey
#

Thanks for the advice chads, will come back with more

gusty mirage
#

esp this late in an expac where secondaries start to gain on primary stat Yap

keen spruce
#

Think about this monke as building your character. If a perfectly played / BiS / optimal rogue is a 3000sqft house made of straw. then the monke pushing this little pile of straw is re-gemming your gear or optimizing stat weights

gusty mirage
#

you better not be eating that feast BUD @grim jay

#

better sim the food you're consuming for raid and keys

#

because secondary stat food beat out primary stat food for me last tier

#

MISTER

grim jay
#

kinda weird optimization shaming

#

anyhow

gusty mirage
#

it's either that or gorilla gifs

#

pick one

grim jay
#

gorilla gifs

gusty mirage
#

good choice

toxic olive
#

I like all kinda apes so go for it

gusty mirage
#

my new vice is gorilla gifs ngl

keen spruce
#

booty scratcher

waxen oyster
#

like you wouldnt embellish head

waxen oyster
#

that's kinda trolling

#

bracer belt feet should be fine

grim jay
#

there certainly are cases for it

#

and the engi head is kinda good aswell

waxen oyster
#

Head is the worst slot to

gusty mirage
#

I had engi helm last season

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with vers

waxen oyster
#

most stats+helm enchant

gusty mirage
#

never did get a tier helmet

waxen oyster
#

Yeah that's different

grim jay
#

or did you actually sim

waxen oyster
#

?

#

Helm has more agi

#

than belt boots or bracers

grim jay
#

who cares

#

if the sim says its better

#

its better

#

how much you value the head ilvl for the enchant or something doesnt matter the slightest

gusty mirage
#

I mean we're splitting hairs at max like 500-600 dps difference here

#

maybe 1k

waxen oyster
#

That's less dps than a race change

#

true

grim jay
#

oh no

gusty mirage
#

if you wanna brez your friends (imagine having friends, way to brag about it Cryge ) I support you

grim jay
#

someone reading will jump on the race change train

waxen oyster
#

I mean if you care for performance

#

you play dwarf

#

otherwise whatever you dont hate looking at

#

lets be real

gusty mirage
#

I love how they nerfed diplomacy for humans

#

but didn't touch dwarf

#

ggs

#

10% rep too strong

grim jay
#

honestly dwarf isnt even a serious consideration

distant helm
#

real chads craft wrists bsl to get shield ring for more bsl uptime 5Head

grim jay
#

who wants to look like that

#

lets be real

#

you immediately lose performance by looking absolute shit

#

and hating your character

gusty mirage
#

stoneform is so unbelievably fucking broken

grim jay
gusty mirage
#

that they could remove all the other racials

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and it'd still be picked

grim jay
#

obvious

#

if they remove all the other racials?

#

I mean

#

what else will you pick

gusty mirage
#

like the other dwarf ones

#

you dingus

#

like the free crit damage

past bobcat
#

Yeah stoneform is so insane on its own

gusty mirage
#

like idk how anyone at blizzard can look at the racials

#

and be like YEAH THESE ARE ALL BALANCED

#

meanwhile nightborne gets a fucking mailbox

#

LMFAO

grim jay
#

I honestly dont know why racials are still a thing anyways

gusty mirage
#

I mean they're cool flavor

#

but the flavor stops being cool when one of them has stoneform AND crit damage

distant helm
#

racials should jsut be cosmetic change my mind

grim jay
#

and I dont know how noone jumped on the train to point out major inequalities that arent fair just based on race

#

blizz would immediately remove them that way for sure

gusty mirage
#

like they made meld a shadow of its original self

grim jay
gusty mirage
#

it's still cool

#

has some neat interactions with stealth classes

#

but isn't like giga OP outside of PVP

#

but if I've learned anything over the last 2 expacs, is that PVP is balanced using a dartboard and a weekly print out of community complaints

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and they throw a dart every 2 months

icy acorn
#

havent played assa in a while and need some refreshing
do you apply rupture in a kb window? id assume you want to apply it outside of it right?

grim jay
gusty mirage
#

ye, you'd ideally apply it outside of the window, but if you're in a situation where it's gonna fall off in the KB window you just send it

#

better off refreshing it early if you run into that situation though

spice surge
gusty mirage
#

losing some pandemic time >>>>>>>>>>>> letting it drop

#

or letting envenom drop during KB

icy acorn
#

so if im in a situation where rupture would fall off in a kb window i just apply it beforehand

gusty mirage
#

yeppers

#

just eat the L on the pandemic time loss

icy acorn
#

oki ty

gusty mirage
waxen oyster
#

There are people

#

that play male blood elf unironically

#

reminder

shy pecan
gusty mirage
#

female belf animations are sick

#

idk why anyone would pick male if they play belf

grim jay
#

idk if I were to play one

#

id play male aswell ig

#

I in general dont play female chars unless I cant help it

gusty mirage
#

their stealth animation is stinky

waxen oyster
#

or male nelf

#

stinky

gusty mirage
#

shout out to the goblin stealth animation for being fucking hilarious btw

icy acorn
#

i only play female chars because of their smaller hitbox q:)

spice spire
#

I like male nelf

floral reef
#

male nelf is super cursed

spice spire
#

Female belf tho

floral reef
#

used to like the old model for nelf

gusty mirage
#

I did too

#

I don't really care for this new one

floral reef
#

same

spice spire
#

Didn’t even realize there was a new model

keen spruce
#

just play velf and get fancy hair

spice spire
#

Haven’t been nelf since like

keen spruce
spice spire
#

2013

gusty mirage
#

it's hard to explain

spice spire
#

2012?

waxen oyster
#

Male undead is like

floral reef
waxen oyster
#

im 14

spice spire
#

Whenever ToT was

gusty mirage
#

velf racial mount is 11 out of 10

#

space chocobo

spice spire
#

Velf is my alli goat

#

Inb4 draenai joke

gusty mirage
#

damn

#

he got me

#

female undead has one of the coolest finisher animations

#

shame their racials are dogshit

floral reef
#

i also like looking at my entropic embrace damage

waxen oyster
#

horde kinda stinky ngl

gusty mirage
#

but now we can get cow rogues

#

the meme became a reality

floral reef
#

the tauren stealth animation is also pretty funny

spice spire
waxen oyster
#

the meme started

#

with cow paladins

gusty mirage
#

this giant ass cow trying to sneak around kekman

waxen oyster
#

sunwalkers

icy acorn
gusty mirage
#

agreed

#

but with the last 3 expacs of wow already announced

#

probably won't ever happen

slate crown
#

Thought I remembered something like that

waxen oyster
#

velf has the best non combat racial

#

50% off transmog

keen spruce
#

and u can teleport through echo of nelth walls

icy acorn
slate crown
#

What do you think the jailer was doing in 1992?

icy acorn
icy acorn
#

obv

keen spruce
#

I think it works on gnarlroot as well?

floral reef
#

it does

spice spire
slate crown
spice spire
#

Born before 92? Yeah

#

You are

silk bane
quaint flare
#

do i let empowered garrote fall off before refreshing or just normal pandemic refresh

brisk badge
#

Hello, Am facing a problem sometimes i pull mobs from the tank with full cds in M+15 and more, i tried to stop dps and delay tricks till my opener but still i keep getting aggro from main target. am i doin something wrong ? or there is a tricks or something ? if anyone can help please

#

and how can i deal with threat miss management from the tanks ?

spice surge
#

peeposhrug Have evasion up or hope they taunt

spice spire
#

Do you pop tricks of the trade? You shouldn’t have to since our aggro is kind of eh. But yeah shouldn’t have threat ever unless you prepull PogO

brisk badge
#

yes i do use TOT

spice surge
#

Deathmark kingsbane prio definitely pulls aggro later on

#

Unless the tank is aware of it

gusty mirage
drifting cloud
#

what

brisk badge
#

i can share vod here right ? to show how does that goes

#

:3

spice surge
#

Hold tricks until later on in kb, vanish early, use evasion or yell at your tank peeposhrug

#

But tricks doesnt really do much so peeposhrug

brisk badge
#

cuz its really annoying

junior aurora
#

tbh just play with better tanks

spice surge
#

Better tanks in this case is tanks that have actually played with assa rogues before

#

because theres no other spec in the game that does the same type of damage and actually rips threat 15-20 seconds into the pull, so a lot of people just dont expect it

#

Just like the aggro reset on tindral during his shield, gotta be ready with the evasion kekman

silk bane
#

^ I just evasion after the 2nd shiv at this point ngl

royal lantern
spice surge
#

You mean starting the DR on their sigils way too early? kekman

royal lantern
#

nah, our tanks rn are a dk and a druid

slate crown
spice spire
#

Old lady damn

#

Now I’m gonna bully both you and @gilded oasis

grim jay
#

dang you guys are old

#

did you write down your last will already?

spice spire
spice spire
#

Damage reduction

lean portal
#

o ye

grim jay
spice spire
#

No

deep lotus
#

hey all is there any spec dps chart around? thanks

slate crown
grim jay
slate crown
#

Then you change it 🙂

grim jay
#

so much work

#

like for the safe bet you probably dont need to even write one anywhere

spice spire
#

I’ve edited mine 4/5 times

#

Just had to recently change mine a few months ago

grim jay
#

do you have it at home

#

or did you let someone deposit it?

spice spire
#

Home

#

Fireproof safe

kindred flare
#

!dagger

normal mist
kindred flare
#

My tooltip is saying 10% walking and mounted speed for the dragonkin buff, did something change?

spice surge
#

No the image is just wrong

#

Its 5% if youre on a continent you havent explored, 10% if you have

kindred flare
#

heard, thanks, any of the others change with other criteria?

spice surge
#

well its not a cheat death either, idk just run the speed Surebud

kindred flare
#

yeah, its a 200k heal, which will only do so much in this one shot meta if cheat is down lol

spice surge
#

Does it even heal for that much? Should be 10% of your health but ig it can crit