assassination

[slate crown]

The point is have DM+KB for shield

[dark token]

Ye

[slate crown]

so whatever combo allows that

[dark token]

Bonus points if you grieftorch bug abuse intermission 2 when adds grouped

Get that r1

[hexed willow]

got a mythic boon 😄

[balmy condor]

Booner

[runic hinge]

Huge booner

[rotund oak]

[junior aurora]

going to my boon cave

[severe oyster]

Voice is apparently 5.3k dps ST upgrade for me. Guess that's what I'm taking and I'll get rings last.

[cyan surge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/318244309021229067/1240530192422932540/Screenshot_2024-05-16_010335.png?ex=6646e545&is=664593c5&hm=287f55c1be13d1543aa6128fe9334c15ae60a0a289ffe3ad1fb650237b6a47c7&

Good ring?

[cursive owl]

good meowning

[cyan surge]

Still a boe

[shy pecan]

Sim it

[somber sparrow]

mmm hardmode nick of time just dropped

[grand trail]

Ye got it yesterday too

[soft compass]

/cast [@mouseover, nodead, exists][] Shadowstep

what's wrong with my step macro

just returns invalid target

never mind i legit just didn't have it on my bars, kms

[hardy dagger]

Did that and the pull we killed it didn't proc

[grim jay]

I still didnt manage to do it.

[hardy dagger]

Last shield on Raz with dm is absurd

[royal lantern]

why would you use dm on the shield

it allready explodes when people look at it funny

[balmy condor]

PAD

[quiet oar]

Padding logs

Like on Tindral

Get an aug to buff you aswell

[royal lantern]

you little log sluts

all of you

[quiet oar]

I never Do that

I dont care at all

[royal lantern]

good boy

[quiet oar]

I mean why would i

My guild always fucks up good tries

And kills bosses when its Bad tries

I lost all Motivation

[royal lantern]

mood

[clever sapphire]

relatable

[royal lantern]

progressing private aur....i mean Echo for weeks, 0deaths

when does the kill happen? the pull where the warrior jumps into my portal spot for no reason and kills me

[grim jay]

Relatable

[quiet oar]

I mean first kills are private anyways

for us

But even in reclears

They wipe my good try

and 2nd try it when i have 0 KB crits

as example

[balmy condor]

what I do

wait holup

that filter hit

nah

!mute @shrewd nacelle 7d not letting that filter hit slide

[shrewd night]

the fuck

[potent raven]

dafuq he say

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter

[potent raven]

hi

[normal mist]

S4 brings the worst out of people

[potent raven]

lmao

lowkey

[grand trail]

Being muted for 7 days is kinda sad

[normal mist]

1 week to cool down. Like a raid reset

[balmy condor]

well

after reviewing his history

he got a ban

that's why there's no history

but yeah

vacation

[normal mist]

Full time vacation

[grand trail]

New acc angle

[tropic tundra]

Nah that one is just trolling, he prob got kicked from priest disc as well

[normal mist]

You need to be a very sad person to create another account just to get kicked again

[balmy condor]

discord bans are ip based

making a new account does nothing

you'd have to like VPN and shit

it's a huge pain in the ass

[normal mist]

I believe the guy in the pvp channel earlier today was the one from yesterday aswell

[balmy condor]

especially if you're still using your main in like other discords like your guild disc or something

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean it's possible to get around ip bans obviously

vpn's are pretty common

but like

[normal mist]

The effort

[balmy condor]

it's still a bitch

[normal mist]

Holy damn

[hardy dagger]

Have to pad ye

[clever sapphire]

just gonna throw this out, they finally managed to fix the target dummies in valdrakken

[balmy condor]

you gotta make a whole ass account, change ips, log in on the new one, join the server again

[normal mist]

People should stop and watch Vinland Saga. They could learn a thing or two.

[balmy condor]

if you want to use the old one you gotta change ip's again, log back over

could you imagine

like mid raid need to check the sub faq

or some shit

[tropic tundra]

You get to learn it when stupid government makes twitch leave

[balmy condor]

you gotta disconnect from guild disc mid raid, log out, change vpn, log in, read the faq, log out, change vpn, log in, reconnect to guild disc

I mean

that's gotta be a fucking headache

[clever sapphire]

do i get anything for 2.5 rio? i know that 2k was mount

[balmy condor]

a firm grasping of your cheeks by blizzard

pushing m+

the most rewarding experience

[normal mist]

Not this season no

[clever sapphire]

"pushing" im just doin every key on an 8 each week

[clever sapphire]

how rewarding of them

[normal mist]

The other seasons you got the item to unlock special effects on the head/shoulders

But it seems they want those to remain tied to the normal seasons

[balmy condor]

that's 9 key levels too high

[clever sapphire]

well i cant argue with that

[rotund oak]

im rly pissed off this season man

everything so meta-locked

keys,arena

[clever sapphire]

logging off is not meta locked

[rotund oak]

idk why ppl dont like sin

it does so much dmg,it has 5t dispell

very good ST dmg

fukin stupid ppl

[clever sapphire]

because its not shadow priest or mage or aug

[rotund oak]

im shitting on 80% of those

[clever sapphire]

thats not the point

[rotund oak]

especially on pugs

[clever sapphire]

95% of those are fotm

[rotund oak]

yeah ofc

thats what im implying

[clever sapphire]

shitting on them is like taking candy from a child

anyone can do that, but the child is still gonna get candy over you

[rotund oak]

[clever sapphire]

(no idea where im going with this)

feck pugs

[royal lantern]

huh, til

[clever sapphire]

498 bdk tank for an 8 halls

surely nothing bad happens

[rotund oak]

💀

[clever sapphire]

this is the last key i need

i can raidlog after that

[rotund oak]

its like idk,until 10-12s key lvl is irrelevant

it feels the same for sin

sht blows up as soon as u press KB

i legit love sin

how it is rn

[clever sapphire]

first pulle he pulled 4 mobs

2 dps died

its gonna be a long one

[next quarry]

does shroud of concealment on raid pull do anything?

[marble hemlock]

tbf just gotta watch a random youtube video and odds are youll be linked to NORDVPN so its not that big of a pain :x

[rotund oak]

better position for tanks maybe,setting up for dps as well

[next quarry]

Okay, ive just watched videos of top mytic guilds and sometimes they dont bother shrouding

so was just wondering if it was useless or not

[rotund oak]

it might be it might not

[royal lantern]

eh, it doesnt really "help" tbh

1-2 fights with tank positon, but most of the time it doesnt really doc nything

[clever sapphire]

key was "okay", but how do you manage to do no dmg as a frost dk with 518 ilvl

[severe oyster]

To be fair, you can download the DiscordPtB and just run 2 Discord accounts at the same time.

[balmy condor]

Okay nerd

[severe oyster]

Checkmate.

[balmy condor]

I bet you got good grades in school

[severe oyster]

Which honestly might be more annoying if you use things like togggle mute keybinds etc because of the sound effects happening twice

[balmy condor]

And have a successful career

And you’re probably cute too

Mfer

[severe oyster]

Nah that one is cap.

I have to do 16 keys to cap aspects. Good thing remix is coming out so I can skip doing that

[clever sapphire]

imma just kill some mythic raidbosses

[normal mist]

Imma be original, imma be a big fat panda

[clever sapphire]

and get my aspect cap that way

[severe oyster]

I should try and pug some mythic bosses. #guildless

[clever sapphire]

should be possible, not sure how organized it was but gingi killed mythic sennarth with a pug

on his 505 boomie

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-huahua-gif-1476795351732195837

[severe oyster]

I assume I could at the very least get Erranog down.

[junior aurora]

eranog and primal council are puggable and were in s1 too

[gusty mirage]

Terros too

But terros can turn into a disaster fairly quickly if the tanks don’t know what they’re doing

It’s pretty neat

[severe oyster]

Honestly should just find a guild, but cross realm guilds come in TWW right? Might as well wait at this point.

[junior aurora]

no reason to do terros anyway probably

[normal mist]

Me and a bunch of guild mates will try remix and we decided to just all create pandas (the classes that can)

[junior aurora]

2 bosses for mythic vault slot

[gusty mirage]

Tru

[junior aurora]

side note, i bought eranog ring and incarnate icon with bullions on mage and both dropped in raid this week

[gusty mirage]

I think they said cross realm mythic should be out with TWW launch or a little bit after. I might be misremembering

[junior aurora]

i did /roll and would have won both

[gusty mirage]

Hmm that’s a good idea, I don’t have any pandas leveled

[junior aurora]

we were gonna do that until the classes we are playing all cannot be pandas lol

[severe oyster]

Hmm. Maybe I'll start the search after Remix has lost it's charm for me.

[normal mist]

It's also good to level races like troll/draenei that have heritage armors associated

[cursive owl]

i will redo my interface later. also ! guys , i did buy the torch now for 2 buillon brickets or what those orange candy is. i got no spark left, did make some wrist with the blue line silk stuff.. im thinking about making the Head with the fire passive. does the Diurnas Ring "Procc" more often if i have it ? cause im unsure if the Helmet "enchant" is enought :3 maybe i can go and strike 2 flys with 1 hit , if u guys know let me know pls 😄

[clever sapphire]

2 bsl is gonna do more dmg than flare cowl with eranog ring

[cursive owl]

ah ok

[gusty mirage]

It does proc the ring though

That’s how we did it in season 1

[clever sapphire]

well ye if going for only eranog ring dmg flare cowl is gonna make your ring look better i guess

[cursive owl]

like does it procc more often ?

the flare cowl isnt that bad, it got good stats and we do not take Tier set on head i believe

so i thought. maybe good synergy

[normal mist]

The maths have been done and flaring lost to double bsl

But you can use it

[cursive owl]

i see

[normal mist]

Just isn't min maxing

[cursive owl]

but i cant use bsl 2 and cowl in the same time rt ?

[gusty mirage]

Yeah it does but it’s def worse than a second blue silken, either way it’s not a significant amount worse (all embellishments are kinda whatever since they got rebalanced at the start of season 3)

[normal mist]

No

[potent raven]

good morning ❤️ anyone wants to PI me in m+

[normal mist]

No :c

[potent raven]

@gusty mirage hey ❤️

[gusty mirage]

Hi friend, how goes the m+ adventures?

[cursive owl]

O-o oh , it does say the fire proc is an embellishment i see

[potent raven]

pretty good bro, how are you my fellow lawyer

[cursive owl]

and henlo sense :3

[gusty mirage]

I have to drive to work soon

[cursive owl]

aww

[potent raven]

Noo :(

[normal mist]

I've been at work the last 4 hours

[cursive owl]

gives 2 watericecream sticks to oxi

[normal mist]

"working"

[gusty mirage]

[cursive owl]

uh yes i did understand anything. but my question is not answered yet LUL i believe so , uh so .. the ring has internal cooldown ?

[normal mist]

More fire DMG

More procs

If you want to highlight that ring like we did during s1 flaring cowl is an amazing choice

And you'll be proccing shields too if you eventually get diurnas ring

[severe oyster]

Getting declined to +8s when I have +12s timed at 7am. Feelsbad

[potent raven]

guys

do i run this

or do i take arterial

i just want ct and sd for fort

but i need boss dam too

but arterial is good for this week but its whatever lmao

[clever sapphire]

i rotate between shock build and the cleave build depending on key, i never played this build because i love blindside too much

[potent raven]

i do as well

[clever sapphire]

i dont think you will ever hold shiv for raging anyways

so play whatever is the most fun for you

or rotate builds around

most fun imo

[potent raven]

yup true agree

just testing stuff out

ct is just too good for meters

[severe oyster]

I never play that build either, blindside is too good. Plus never hold shiv for raging either.

[potent raven]

wait so u just take the right tree

and no amplifying

like this

[cursive owl]

ok ty ^-^

[clever sapphire]

yap, thats the shock build

you dont lose that much ST either

[potent raven]

well

lowkey u do

thinking of taking acro

[junior aurora]

dont need it on assa tbh

it doesnt work with caustic spatter so sometimes you gimp yourself

[clever sapphire]

i mean for me its this build in keys where there isnt really big mobs in each pull (like halls), and im playing the cleave build in keys where there is big guys in most pulls (i like it on brh/av when my group is already stacked with big aoe and small mobs explode anyways)

[severe oyster]

Might as well get used to not playing acro as well because aern't they nerfing all these range extending abilities in TWW?

[clever sapphire]

acro gets removed in tww yap

well "removed"

it now gives melee dmg

and no range

[potent raven]

whatd u play for azure vault

the pulls arent that big

[clever sapphire]

tbh i found both builds viable in av

most pulls had a mob that everyone hats or had a bit more hp

so cleave works

but shock is also pretty nice because you get restealths often in my experience

but im not a pusher

[potent raven]

fairs

i am >_.

[clever sapphire]

i just vibe in my 9-10 weeklys

[potent raven]

trynna figure it out

av 14

probably lot of hp mobs

gonna go ct

[clever sapphire]

well if the tank has a route i would check his pulls

[potent raven]

theyre pretty massive

[normal mist]

Would you mind if I ask why are you so determined to get those things to be a priority? Hehe

[clever sapphire]

in the first 3 pulls there isnt really a good dm target for the cleave build, but i find the pulls after that all have good cleave mobs

i also enjoy cleave when i get pulled out of stealth for some reason and i can just go aight, fuck this mob and do dmg off of him

[junior aurora]

well you said you’re just doing 8-10 keys right

[clever sapphire]

yap

xD

[junior aurora]

fort 14+ its easier to find targets to cleave off of

[clever sapphire]

well thats true

[junior aurora]

they dont need to be miniboss tier at that point as long as people arent focusing the kb target down

[clever sapphire]

do those crystal frontal boys have a lot of hp on that lvl?

like the 3 in the first pull

[severe oyster]

My friends purposely try to nuke my DM KB target. -.-

[junior aurora]

enough to live a kingsbane if nobody nukes your target

[clever sapphire]

find new friends

[potent raven]

^

lmao

[junior aurora]

maybe not if you ran DTB build but arterial build should be good

[severe oyster]

I just drop shit on them with cloak to try and kill them as revenge. It works.

[cursive owl]

im just a special snowflake :3

[spice surge]

I love doing weekly keys and having sudden demise be like 8% of my damage

[normal mist]

Aren't we all? :3

[cursive owl]

sorry im at work and could not answer propperly

[normal mist]

That was a proper answer

I'm also a special cornflake

[cursive owl]

uh , i dunno after u told me , the ring is just Free dps, i thought , ok i heard about the cowl, can i not push it a bit so i get more value out of it :3 and a head piece with good stats doesnt seem to be a waste. but then it hit me hard that u told me that it counts as an embellishment qwq , so i am now thinking again. Mastery OK but the cowl also does AOE and in M+ it can be more versatile if i stand in trash groups with muttiple ppl where like as example a m+6 or else i am not always over 90% to get the mastery buff O-o

[cursive owl]

nuu it was not xD thats why read the roman ! 😄 xD

[normal mist]

Yeah that makes sense OCD towards improving that proc.
Again, you can do it, but overall it's a DPS loss. But this is a meme season just try things out and enjoy and have fucking fun

And to finish that sentence in a cool way:

UwU

[cursive owl]

OwO

nice

YES

if i stand in multiple ppl in a group dmg them with the cowl, ring will procc more i believe so maybe its agood m+ improvement. Knowing myself that i am a movement cripple i do eat a lot of dmg so x) i think for my playstile the cowl is better ^-^

[normal mist]

Go for it!
But be warned, we don't say it was a DPS increase nor recommended it

But it can work

[clever sapphire]

welp seems like kush is gonna go with accro in his brh key

[normal mist]

[clever sapphire]

ngl i think i would feel weird playing with accro

im so used to no range

that having range would throw me off

[cursive owl]

hey , i dont mind, if i deal 3k less or 4k less its ok , if im 40k diffrence between my ppl then i would sht myself

[dark token]

Ngl the melee range changes + private aura changes are making me really depressed for TWW

[cursive owl]

after all i did decide to do it so not your fault 😄

[clever sapphire]

the embellishments are all kinda within 1-2% if i remember correctly

[dark token]

Devs are still really out of touch and hard forcing arbitrary game design decisions down players throats, sacrificing fun to do so

[clever sapphire]

thats why its usually not worht to think much about them

[clever sapphire]

private auras?

[cursive owl]

then i rather take crowl OwO

[clever sapphire]

so i will have to use an echo map in dungeons now

[dark token]

You might need to macro

Some dungeon bosses

Or it's gonna be like more mechanics like shadowbolt on last boss brh

Where you can't tell it's targeting you and need pre mitigation (aka aids)

[cursive owl]

btw i run into a lot of bots recently playing m+

[clever sapphire]

from the pin

[cursive owl]

yes yes ^-^

[clever sapphire]

uh so fun

[cursive owl]

[clever sapphire]

time to press feint on cooldown

in case it targets me (whatever ability is gonna be hated in the specific dungeon)

whoop whoop

[cursive owl]

😄

thanks for all the support in here , ppl amazing

[thin furnace]

That sounds like trickster gameplay

[clever sapphire]

maybe they made trickster in mind with these changes

[grim jay]

Unlikely, because they wouldnt have said they ll change it then

[clever sapphire]

nah they probably realised it would make trickster players unkillable

[dark token]

I really don't recommend cowl btw

It's very short range often won't proc, bsl you can easily have much higher uptime than 40%. I average like 60% uptime in last raid

Or 70% in keys

[grim jay]

I dont remember them ever backing down if they had a bigger picture in mind

[dark token]

And bsl is better in both aoe and single target

[normal mist]

It's too late @dark token

You can't tell him otherwise

[dark token]

Just craft bsl and forget about the buff it will be better

[potent raven]

ok

av14

first time i do a somewhat high key on sin

[clever sapphire]

only beaten by fotm and not even by that much

lookin good

[onyx gulch]

Hey guys, since skills dont scale from weapon damage anymore, whats more important? Weapons or trinkets with bullions?

[grim jay]

[onyx gulch]

What does cruel dreamcarvers on use do?

[placid adder]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[grim jay]

Weapons are still the most important slot for ilvl

But considering availability, I wouldnt buy a weapon unless your other options only are ilvl increases

Or small upgrades

[next quarry]

Do you guys like crimson tempest build at primal council or not?

[clever sapphire]

i dont think anyone has any idea about what to play on council ngl

everyone is just trying out whatever they think is the best

[grim jay]

IC with IW

And spatter

[clever sapphire]

im gonna ignore your 3rd word

[grim jay]

Iron?

Or with?

[clever sapphire]

aight im out

[grim jay]

Dont shame the IW

[dark token]

IC scent of blood for council

[clever sapphire]

iw on council

[grim jay]

Someone played it

Its wild

[clever sapphire]

most people probably talent shock build and dont swap out of IW

im gonna go ic and spatter

and call it a day

actually time to log on and cook something up for council

because why not

[grim jay]

I did the same iirc

[dark token]

Nah u for sure want scent of blood on 4t long cleave

[grim jay]

IC and Spatter, dunno what I took out

I think poison application chance

[onyx gulch]

Whats BIS weapon for muta right now? Is it cruel dreamcarver? if so, what does the on use do?

[spice surge]

Either dagger at 528

The on-use is just random tertiary things

[grim jay]

If I had to guess

[dark token]

Sudden demise is alright

But consider getting dtb somehow instead if u can

I'm thinking 1 point scent build with dtb and pb

[grim jay]

Idk I think it doesnt add that much in that case

Would need to do a 4t sim ig

[potent raven]

15 uldaman

Come do it with me @dark token

2 rogue ez

[shrewd night]

Says who?

[dark token]

I'm at work

[desert inlet]

wait this is the first time I'm seeing the hero talents

I think I died at some point and I'm in hell now

[quiet oar]

No

Its real life

[dark token]

Deahtstalker will fix it.... Cold blood forcing fatebound tree can't hurt u

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/bonne-nuit-bisous-gif-23798629

[earnest timber]

still better than here feint for damage

[clever sapphire]

well i watched whispyrs dungeon reviews and he had hero talents in them, if i didnt know hero talents existed i wouldnt even have known assa got changes

[dark token]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fxzJ4na5XwwFPjPcJrf8iW

[spice spire]

Dog?

[glad cliff]

best race for m+?

[dark token]

Ye here is a talent sim for council

[clever sapphire]

dwarf because its broken

[glad cliff]

wasnt there a tech with night elf

[clever sapphire]

but you will have to deal with the fact that you are a dwarf

[potent raven]

no

nelf is still good but

its sub optimal

in this szn

with 100 dots n shit

[limber lion]

Bro

[potent raven]

that dwarf can dispell

[limber lion]

Why does it say 1.022M

And not 1022K

Or just the number entirely spelled out

[dark token]

Haha

[limber lion]

Plenty of space for 7 numbers

[misty holly]

Definitely dwarf. You can stoneform off the Earthen Shard from Talondras, which is one of the hardest bosses in season.

[dark token]

I think it's because of previous stat squishes it would switch to M immediately because people sim like 50.5m or whatever

[desert inlet]

u cant prove im not

[clever sapphire]

no IW, how am i gonna silence the bosses now

[limber lion]

It should be 1022k and if it reaches 10m+ then turn to M's

[potent raven]

weirdo

[limber lion]

Just like in Runescape :3

[potent raven]

feel like no iw is giga troll

[dark token]

No ur right I can silence those 2 kicks on pull

Huge

[spice spire]

You have boots checkmate pal

[potent raven]

yea idk sometimes there is shit casting when u pull

silencing them is broken

[dark token]

This is for council

[earnest timber]

why this dude got avoidance on every piece

[dark token]

Why don't you

[potent raven]

/w [my priest] PI ME UWU
/cast Deathmark
/use 13

does this work?

[clever sapphire]

wouldnt 3 minutes fit better? thought m council was around 3 minute fight

or 3:30

[dark token]

I pick vault pieces with avoidance for future upgrades even if they are suboptimal right now

[normal mist]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/assassination-rogue-review-of-fatebound-hero-talents-flipping-the-hand-of-fate-340466?webhook

[earnest timber]

hasnt dropped for me yet painge

[normal mist]

It's out

[potent raven]

ok it works

huge playing with a sp now

gonna get pid

[grim jay]

#tww-assassination message

Tww channel is over there

[normal mist]

Calling me out like that

😢

[grim jay]

I just wanted you to see the picture

I paid tribute with

[potent raven]

how do u actually have so much avoidance

frozen do u realize how broken ud be playing in m+

u have the best gear in the world + racial

[dark token]

Yes

I have 20.3% avoidance

[normal mist]

Holy moly those skills

[dark token]

But I cba pug

When god comp

[potent raven]

bro

[dark token]

It's just 4 hrs queue simulator

[potent raven]

we play sub/sin literally time every key

XDDD

[grim jay]

Aint too bad considering I did it on phone while working

[dark token]

Blizzard doesn't respect player time

Or m+ balance

[normal mist]

Bro what phone do you have that was amazing xD

[dark token]

So I rather read my book after my weekly 10s done atm

[grim jay]

Samsung galaxy s23 ultra

[dark token]

People don't care if you play well and have good gear it's just hard forcing comp man

If I had 5 man it's diff story but no one is pushing who isn't God comp atm

Or at least adjacent like a warlock

Even kush in sin keys he's just tying outlaws

We can't compete with these busted casters

Rogue is good but casters are like 50% better

[normal mist]

Tbf the gif you did the other day is actually amazing xD

[dark token]

This website aggregates DPS from top 2000 logged keys every week

Look at the max dam

[grim jay]

I dont do gifs, gotta be mistaken on that one

[dark token]

Everyone kinda the same then spriest is hero class + lock is huge aoe

And you pick mage aug to buff em

[quiet oar]

BALANCED

[normal mist]

oh damn it I misremembered the names D:

Nvm

[clever sapphire]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k2EZWcwj9u6MUt8pyZRxan
also did a few sims for council and this was my highest sim

[earnest timber]

link pls

[misty holly]

Why is enhancement shaman so low? Is that the windfury tax.

[shrewd night]

There i no shot sub is below aug

[gusty mirage]

in keys?

[dark token]

Sub logs been bugged for a week or two

[gusty mirage]

aug gets inflated because fire mage and spriest exist

remember that

mr. koffing

[dark token]

https://mythicstats.com/dps

[desert inlet]

little boots will go hungry when the whole class is rng

[dark token]

This is the best stat website I found so far (archon rly sucks)

[spice spire]

Don’t.

[gusty mirage]

archon sucks? I'm shocked

[dark token]

This view is quite cool

[spice spire]

I’ll literally give my body so that cat eats

[shrewd night]

[earnest timber]

never knew how good we had it with subcreation

[dark token]

It's not that subcreation was that good

Just archon is rly rly rly rly bad

[earnest timber]

this archon shit is like noxxic

ya true

it gave you an "idea" of what to play

[potent raven]

FROZEN

[dark token]

Yes

[potent raven]

so do i drop iw for that poison talent

[dark token]

For council

Yes

M+ no

[grim jay]

Looks like modern art

[potent raven]

ok

council i did iirc

[gusty mirage]

quake cause he hates friendship

[potent raven]

played with ct, got 75% parse, ez

[clever sapphire]

ttb for blindside simmed higher for me too

[potent raven]

i do low boss dam :/

[shrewd night]

He does. Actual meowless mfer.

[potent raven]

no amplifying sucks

[dark token]

This is the build below 15 for assa imo

Above 15 use hybrid build for fort

[potent raven]

im doing 14s-15s rn

[dark token]

Or my CT cleave for tyran

[gusty mirage]

I just had strawberry acai pancakes for breakfast, AMA

[potent raven]

i mean

heavy pull dungeons

[grim jay]

Parsed 90s with ST+IC and spatter

[potent raven]

(uldaman that is)

i think id go ct still

[gusty mirage]

wait this isn't off topic

nevermind my message, carry on

[potent raven]

ive never played assa in raid b4 bro

or at all

[desert inlet]

mmmm strawbs

[potent raven]

i just knew the basica, im giga new to spec

but gj.

[grim jay]

Id take you for breakfast

[gusty mirage]

[potent raven]

wish that was me

[dark token]

S1 I miss you

[clever sapphire]

lookin for assa

[tall jay]

I have Greif and Ashes, do i use Grief first then use Ashes in Death Mark

[grim jay]

How can you use grief first if you want to use ashes in DM

[clever sapphire]

delay dm by 20 sec

duh

(dont do this)

[grim jay]

Thanks for saying what shouldnt ever be said

Right next to scaling, restealth, crit cap and "I just had pizza with pineapple"

[clever sapphire]

haste cap incoming for outlaw in tww

gonna check in there every few days to see the question about haste

[tall jay]

ok, so don't use Grief at all or do I use it AFTER deathmark?

[grim jay]

After

[ornate escarp]

guys quick question for assa in raid. there is cleave ( splatter ) and pure ST build.
are these the 2 builds for raid ? or is list of builds ? rn i use only icyveins website

[tall jay]

ok

[clever sapphire]

first grieftorch is around 30s into the fight

[grim jay]

And dont delay ashes with torch resets

[clever sapphire]

nah not that i know

because there isnt really much you can change

council in vault is probably the only exception

[tall jay]

So use Grief if it procs, but other than that, only use on CD AFTER DM

[clever sapphire]

as long as you use ashes with dm, you can use grieftorch whenever

[grim jay]

You open with DM and ashes, after that you use torch when ever you can unless you are at less than 20s to your next DM

Or inside kingsbane window

[tall jay]

ok

[grim jay]

Never Interrupt kingsbane window

[devout mist]

hello peeps got a question. i wanna jump between sub and sin. do u reckon going for shadow-tempered patch or flaring cowl is better if i get a eranog ring. cheers

[grim jay]

Flaring cowl sucks

[clever sapphire]

2x bsl, its bis for assa and sub afaik

[devout mist]

then how tf do i proc the ring

since its bis afaik

[grim jay]

Head enchant

[clever sapphire]

s3 head enchant

[devout mist]

i gotta look into that, i skipped s3 so im a bit out of the loop

thanks for that

[clever sapphire]

and grieftorch

if you are using grieftorch

[earnest timber]

Enchant, eggnogg ring, & griefer

[devout mist]

yea i plan picking up grieftorch

wow its a quest for that enchant rip

[clever sapphire]

you just go into the raid, kill bosses and quest is done

[earnest timber]

some people still pug it might be able to finish it sooner

for leggos on heroic

[clever sapphire]

not sure how it works currently, i remember needing weeks for the enchant quest

[earnest timber]

yeah its like 2 weeks theres no good catchup for that yet so it kinda blows

[hexed tinsel]

i did it in 1 week 👀

just lfr and normal

[devout mist]

then im in no rush to get the eranog ring kekw yet

will just get the trinkets/wep

[earnest timber]

hmm i thought it was just per boss per week

cause i did it on an alt full n-h & didnt finish it out

i could be trippin

[junior aurora]

did one lfr boss on rogue on tuesday and got 2 dinars

[devout mist]

ppl still run amirdrasil outside of awakened week?

sus

[hexed tinsel]

Orange stick

[junior aurora]

helm enchant

orange stick

mythic for mount

[devout mist]

well ty for the answers

[earnest timber]

9 times out of 10 its for leggo

[junior aurora]

should be able to get the helm enchant in 1 clear

[earnest timber]

15 times for leggo for some people unlucky bastards

[clever sapphire]

they play ret pala

i cant feel bad for them

[devout mist]

yea apparently i need to get some item from gnarlroot, and then pick up the quest and start killing bosses

and get some random currency

[clever sapphire]

it can be all done in 1 full run, well not sure about the currency part

[devout mist]

fished? no fking way

[clever sapphire]

just make sure you start the quest before killing igira, she also drops an item

[wanton spear]

do we still go spatter for fort if we go the sd build? or is the extra rupture damage on multiple targets better?

[gusty mirage]

now you gotta fish to see if it works

[scarlet orbit]

you always go spatter in aoe content its way better then the extra rapture dmg

[subtle tundra]

spatter is just broken 🙂

[wanton spear]

kk feel like i'm just playing the aoe build wrong i keep trying to get as many ruptures up as possible for the agi before starting to burn down one target for spatter

[gusty mirage]

I wouldn't play to maximize scent

just focus on getting 5-6 bleeds out for energy and then just blast main target

[subtle tundra]

the m+ pushers from my guild tryna fucking gaslight me or smth cause they be telling me assa is the best rogue m+ spec

https://tenor.com/view/twentik-dan-cat-cursd-gif-23403895

[gusty mirage]

assa is outlaw now?

weird

[scarlet orbit]

assa is very close to outlaw now if its better no clue

[clever sapphire]

even if you are the best rogue spec, you are still not a caster so you will inherently just be a worse spec than if you played a caster

[gusty mirage]

outlaw has:

• consistent damage every pull
• is infinitely tankier
• has a less convoluted aoe gameplay rotation

and somehow assa is better?

[subtle tundra]

its more about playing shadow prist and augmentation

so you need a 3rd that synergises with them

[gusty mirage]

yeah it's called fire mage

[subtle tundra]

and assa is the only rogue choice

[gusty mirage]

no you don't

[scarlet orbit]

mean you can still pi the tank and play outlaw

[gusty mirage]

what's the fucking point of bringing a spec because it synergizes with aug and spriest if it just dies on high keys?

lmao

mythic plusers are actual apes

[subtle tundra]

well it still is the spec that has the synergy

[gusty mirage]

holy shit

if they care about synergy they'd invite a fire mage

not a rogue

[clever sapphire]

wait crazy idea, why not just bring a second shadow priest 🤯

[junior aurora]

if you're bringing an outlaw rogue you probably aren't bringing aug right

bc you would still need a PI target for the spriest

[gusty mirage]

I mean why wouldn't you

tf you gonna bring instead? a ww monk?

[subtle tundra]

well i wasnt agreeing with them anyways

[junior aurora]

mage lol

[gusty mirage]

then why are you bringing the rogue

when you can bring an aug

and boom

[subtle tundra]

but they might have hidden tech, who knows
they know more cause of tgp and shit

[gusty mirage]

infinitely better

[junior aurora]

this is why they dont bring the rogue lol

also rogue utility kinda stinky now

one aoe stop aint it with the pulls you can do with an aug instead

[gusty mirage]

not to mention aug makes literally everyone's life easier by existing

very balanced spec

ty blizzard

almost as balanced as ret paladin damage rn

[scarlet orbit]

rogue is in no meaning bad its just that there are at least 4 classes borderline broken as hell

[gusty mirage]

ye

[junior aurora]

yeah i mean its the same as season 2 rn

there's a lot of good classes

[gusty mirage]

like sure you can bring a rogue

and outlaw will perform great

[junior aurora]

there's just a comp that complements 5 of those classes perfectly

[gusty mirage]

but just make pushing a billion times easier with spriest/mage/aug

[oblique jackal]

Good ole God Comp

[gusty mirage]

kinda like in bfa

[junior aurora]

like when you have these 5 classes that synergize insanely it makes it hard to justify bringing another class thats just good and doesn't fit the bigger picture

[gusty mirage]

where you were inting by not playing 2 outlaw rogues in every dungeon

lmao

[subtle tundra]

i mean, i can see assa somehow fitting into push comp for tgp for 1 specific dungeon

[gusty mirage]

sure you can fit in other specs/classes

but why would you

[subtle tundra]

cause you make a route exactly fitting our profile

[junior aurora]

nokhud?

[subtle tundra]

assa just dies

[junior aurora]

oh true 3rd boss

[subtle tundra]

on the 3rd boss

[oblique jackal]

^

[gusty mirage]

ye its pretty sick

[subtle tundra]

nice game!

[oblique jackal]

They need to add more survival ability for sin

[junior aurora]

you can ask ed i ran a nokhud with him and forgot to take elusiveness

[gusty mirage]

meanwhile my ret pally has 18 buttons for every boss

and infinite damage

[junior aurora]

i told him i might just die on the third boss bc i forgot about that talent

had to get pain supp lmao

[subtle tundra]

ret pala cds are so broken

[gusty mirage]

lmao if you play 1min sac

[subtle tundra]

1 min cd to survive any mechanic

[gusty mirage]

you just have sac + big explody shield

every minute

so you can save another person

literally every minute

you play the loh reduction talent

and you have lay on hands every 2-3 minutes

like oh okay

hoj is essentially a 15s cd for ret

[junior aurora]

at least on my mage i have to play prediction and can't just wave away damage with heals lol

[gusty mirage]

you have cleanse

you have turn evil for incorporeal

you have freedom sprint which is also double freedom because fuck it why not

can spec into bop

very balanced utility for that spec

at this point they might as well give them spellward too

fuck it

[junior aurora]

wish i could just download specific weakauras instead of a whole pack at a time

[potent raven]

any versmaxxers

[junior aurora]

trying to finally fix my UI this morning and idk if cba to make new auras for every cd

[royal lantern]

ayo is that me 1week ago?

[potent raven]

imagine thinking haste is real

[junior aurora]

thats what weapon enchants are for

to fix haste

[thorn fjord]

there is no spoon

[royal lantern]

tbh

you use a enchant lol

[potent raven]

i use crit enchant lol

[royal lantern]

weapon

[potent raven]

yes

[royal lantern]

????

[wanton spear]

this week is really agervating, like why put an entire affix in that some classes can't do anything about

[subtle tundra]

buddy he is stacking vers, not like he is doing anything correct

[junior aurora]

you can stack vers

[quiet oar]

Well sim your weapons

[subtle tundra]

he thinks hes outlaw

[quiet oar]

with enchants

there are some weird upgrades

[junior aurora]

stats for sin are a meme anyway

[quiet oar]

Like on my sub earthen writ is best

[dark token]

Blizz decisions around m+ are really aggravating in general

[subtle tundra]

yes cause you dont need to stack any, they are all equally good

[grim jay]

Idk, just dont do anything about it and enjoy having one thing less to worry about?

[royal lantern]

i was at 38% vers last week man

everything that dropped had vers

[grim jay]

Dunno

[quiet oar]

But what about the crit cap?

[grim jay]

34

[wanton spear]

that would require being invited to a key lol

[grim jay]

Im quite positive thats not bcs of the affix

[wanton spear]

then its just being a rogue lol people with 2k rating shooting you down at 2700+

[royal lantern]

vierundreißig Prozent

[quiet oar]

dankeschön

[grim jay]

Its about meta ye

[subtle tundra]

omg belgian

[grim jay]

Thats how the community is, since quite some time already actually

[quiet oar]

??

[grim jay]

Romanians

Dw

[wanton spear]

pretty sure most of the meta andy's think outlaw is the only playable rogue spec too : /

[subtle tundra]

womp womp

[wanton spear]

at least we have mop remix today lol

[grim jay]

Outlaw doesnt get invited either

[wanton spear]

i was getting more invite as outlaw

[subtle tundra]

i dont quite understand what the deal with mop remix is wtffff

why are people excited 😭

[wanton spear]

its a fun way to lvl alts

other than the tediuos way

[subtle tundra]

the boost wasnt tedious

[grim jay]

I do get into groups pretty fine btw. 3k+ you still get invites fine

[neat plank]

dunno, I didnt enjoy mop when it was current, much less all these years later 😄

[strange python]

also a lot of collectibles to be gained from remix

[grim jay]

Transmog

[strange python]

i dont need to level any more alts but i'll still be playing the crap out of it

[subtle tundra]

yea that would never be me, couldnt care less

[wanton spear]

they should give rogues lust

[grim jay]

The garrosh dagger bro

The garrosh dagger

[subtle tundra]

i dont transmog

[neat plank]

imagine caring about pixelated old looking collectibles 🙂

[strange python]

you can get all the mounts

[neat plank]

I'm kidding, I use a vanilla mog on my rogue 😛 but still

[subtle tundra]

whatever my gear looks like is how i look like

[grim jay]

Imagine playing wow then

[royal lantern]

if we look at this discord and how horny people here are

yeha

rogue should have lust

[neat plank]

I mean I wouldn't brag about it to "normal people" 😛

[royal lantern]

[subtle tundra]

is there any high ilvl gear to get for max lvl

for alts

[grim jay]

Doubt anyone would brag about gaming

Well maybe in korea

[neat plank]

what, you don't tell your coworkers you parsed 99 last night?

[royal lantern]

if somebody would call themself a Gamer, i would walk away and call the authorities

[grim jay]

Im that guy you would never expect to play Video games as much

[royal lantern]

you put that into your tinder and grindr bio smh

[grim jay]

I only grindr @gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

nah tinder and grindr are IO scores only sir

[neat plank]

I let people know I play games cause I don't wanna make up fake stuff about what I did over the weekend all the time, I don't care if they think I'm a time wasting loser 🙂

[gusty mirage]

"I timed a 16, wanna touch my butt?"

[subtle tundra]

make love?

[gusty mirage]

[grim jay]

Yeah well I dont really talk as much about what I do in private at work

[gusty mirage]

y'all talk to your coworkers?

I get spoken at and make animalistic grunts

[royal lantern]

no

[grim jay]

Someone needs to get the coffee ready

[wanton spear]

hate my co workers

[grim jay]

[gusty mirage]

half assed grins and slowly blow air out of my nose to make them think I thought whatever they said was funny

[royal lantern]

im the weird guy that doesnt say a word and when Somebody starts talking, its just me saying OK every 4seconds

[neat plank]

its usually like: "what were you up to during vacation? went anywhere nice?" "I played games non stop for 14 days"

[gusty mirage]

ok is too much work

[wanton spear]

just make idiocracy refrences that they won't get

[gusty mirage]

you should try "mhm"

also every 10-15s drop a "damn thats crazy"

even if it isn't relevant

[grim jay]

Having the door of your office closed already gets rid of many interactions

We have some people that talk soooo much

Especially early in the morning while im busy checking discord

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/can-yaman-turkish-actor-you-talk-too-much-shut-up-be-quiet-gif-16857895

[wanton spear]

lol the filter slapped me because of an idiocracy reference

[strange python]

"Proc itself is a gaming shorthand for "programmed random occurrence"." whispyr just randomly answering questions i've had simmering for years but never bothered looking up

oh wait shit that's a tww article sowwy

[gusty mirage]

huh

TIL

[thorn fjord]

@gusty mirage TIL I learned that Oxi is a cute mfer

SIKE I ALWAYS KNEW

[potent raven]

how do u go about no acro

on first pull on aa

its just very very hard

i admire assa players who manage to do it

[strange python]

i just started playing assa and the lack of acro is torture

[royal lantern]

you realise that acro doesnt really help assa, dont play it for 1 year and then forget about it

[potent raven]

get used to it buddy

i mean.. its just nice to have range because of stuff u have to dodge

[royal lantern]

acro not working with IC/Splatter alone makes the talent more clunky then helpfull

[potent raven]

its just too intense having to dodge all the swirlies move + keep up the dots, a lot of cognitive overload LOL

[next quarry]

When using manic you get 20 sec cd on ashes. This means that I often can only use ashes when its 7 secs left of kingsbane instead of optimal 9-10 sec (according to icyveins). Any methods to avoid this? Thanks!

for opener^

[royal lantern]

you dont use grieftorch on pull

[strange python]

fire all over the ground in nelth, arcane shit all over the ground in azure, bladestorms all over the dungeon in bracken. so many pain points that would be so much better with the range

[dark token]

^

[royal lantern]

you use it after the opener kingsbane w/e its ready

ashes has priority

[next quarry]

ok thanks !

[potent raven]

some pulls are just

a lot of stuff on the ground where u have to dodge so

[split cipher]

find your tank and stand with them, move the way they move

[potent raven]

esp on a 15 fort u jus get 1 tapped

i see

[split cipher]

you'll always be able to hit the mobs

[potent raven]

stand right next to him?

ok i get ur point

[royal lantern]

SUPRISE CLEAVE ATTACK

[split cipher]

ahh

[potent raven]

yea some shit does have cleave

like uldaman

so u see

[split cipher]

just the AA pull specifically. I used to hate it but had a brainblast

[royal lantern]

the first help i can give is

dont play m+ beyond +8 keys cus its pointless

2nd is, eh, its really just a "get used to it" thing

they kill range talent anyway

[strange python]

man what the fuck. checked out whispyr's stream after reading the new article, see him playing PoE, and he's playing subtractem's frostblink ignite witch? i like this guy

[potent raven]

im sub player very noob

tryin to learn assa rn

rerolling fotm

[gusty mirage]

staaaaaaaaaaaaaaahp

[strange python]

assa is very nice, i can tell the only thing standing between my 499 rogue & 300k overalls is skill

i pressed kingsbane without dance i think twice last key

cringed out of my skin

[weak plover]

In raid or m+?

[strange python]

m+, i only do keys

[weak plover]

I mean you could probably jsut macro them and have a second key for dance in case you want to use dance w/o kb

[strange python]

yeah i considered it but

im gonna slap myself until i git gud

it'll click eventually, been here before

and also finding another keybind would be a struggle 😄

[gusty mirage]

honestly just yolo bind them, fuck it

[strange python]

okay i might yield

[weak plover]

if you macro them you can still ninja press dance when you're waiting for gcd

[strange python]

this is true, good point

Do you only use dance/vanish with kingsbane/deathmark?

[weak plover]

or press it without target

[gusty mirage]

most of the time ye

in keys you'll sometimes want to dance/vanish outside of those windows for a variety of reasons

[strange python]

dance & kb are both 1 min and you want to dance with kb so i haven't found myself ever wanting to use them alone

hahaha

oh gee my noob is showing

[gusty mirage]

but like it's very rare you'll ever use them outside of the damage windows

sometimes you have to to interrupt mobs because apparently people forget to bind kick

or have brains

[strange python]

What is kick?

[potent raven]

man uldaman is unforgiving

[strange python]

Is that a tank mechanic?

that's okay, rotation is still taking so much head space i don't have any attention left for anything else

so i'm one of the no kick people

[hollow wren]

which item as third bullions spends?

[gusty mirage]

you're melee I forgive you

its those damn wizards who don't interrupt

[potent raven]

my issue with assa is swapping target from the one that spatter is on

to kick, then swap back

so annoying

[gusty mirage]

I had a shaman who had 3 interrupts in a nokhud

THREE

ITS THE BEST KICK IN THE GAME

[subtle tundra]

youre the best in the game

[gusty mirage]

ashes -> grief -> eggnog ring is usually what most people go with

cause all 3 are wanted by like everyone

[strange python]

i made my mouseover alpha 100% in plater then did a [@mouseover] [] kick macro, helps a lot, especially since i use focus on tank for tricks

[gusty mirage]

but if you need a mythic ilvl dagger, it's not a bad idea to nab a dagger

[strange python]

gives me a clear view that i got the right mob then boom

[hollow wren]

how u proc this eggnog ring?

[potent raven]

how does that work?

[gusty mirage]

helm enchant is enough to proc it

don't really need more than that

[potent raven]

the mouseover kick macro

does it kick the target your mouse is on bsaically

(cursor)?

[arctic socket]

That’s a lie

[potent raven]

does it swap target?

[gusty mirage]

is it

[arctic socket]

Shit barely procs

[gusty mirage]

what horrendous take do you have today

[arctic socket]

[potent raven]

yh it brely procs thats true xd

[hollow wren]

srly? u mean Incandescent essence ye?

[gusty mirage]

!mute @arctic socket 24hr honestly I'm tired of your trolling and lack of insight on anything, and inserting yourself into situations where people try to help

[gusty mirage]

yeppers

[strange python]

#showtooltip kick
/cast [@mouseover,harm,exists] [] Kick

This will prioritize your mouseover, but only if it's an enemy, and if no mouseover it's on your target. I exclusively control camera with right click so I default to having right-click held down, which keeps my mouseover out of the way when I don't want it

[potent raven]

what is the harm thing? is it if x mob is casting

[strange python]

I just throw that in there to avoid any "but mouseover is friendly" bugginess that may or may not actually exist

just ancient habit

[potent raven]

kk ic

will try in a lower key see how it is

[visual hemlock]

!stealth

what breaks stealth

[spice spire]

Sark cloak?

[visual hemlock]

need comamnd

[spice spire]

Usual suspect

[potent raven]

leappers

[strange python]

i do really advise you set your nameplates up so you get a very clear view of which mob is your mouseover, it can get messy with big pulls

and missing a kick because you clipped the wrong nameplate target zone sucks

[potent raven]

i use jundiess plater

if thats tellingof anything

its comfy, but im still dumb w. kicks esp. on sin

[strange python]

i'm no plater wiz, i imported quazii's yesterday and his s4 plater video had a timestamped section for what i wanted

[potent raven]

could u send that?

[strange python]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCpgEV9TfmE

[visual hemlock]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[potent raven]

tyty

[strange python]

still not a huge fan of those plates. i dream of the perfect nameplates, i've been struggling since my first key

[weak plover]

I used cev's and just imported colors on top

[royal lantern]

and teammates that dont press buttons so you can do dmg

[weak plover]

• kick ready indicator

[royal lantern]

everytime assa is high in overall, the first thhought should be "what the fuck where the others doing"

[strange python]

tanks. bad tanks that do shitty clusterfuck pulls that leave me combat locked for 5 minutes with half the mobs outside of spatter range. it's driving me insane

[gusty mirage]

!stealthbug

wtf

it didn't work

[royal lantern]

🐛

[gusty mirage]

oh that's outlaw only

[vestal wren]

sub too maybe

[gusty mirage]

!stealthbreak

[prisma monolith]

Stealth can break from:

• Evokers proccing the legendary weapon on you
• Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
• Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
• Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
• Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
• Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)

[gusty mirage]

there we go

lol

[hard river]

Ah the first one is wrong a bit