#assassination

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forest nacelle
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i adapt

keen spruce
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But it has basically no impact on your overall

proven jasper
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Ppl act like the spec is useless without it

forest nacelle
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oh yeah, im not like that

keen spruce
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And your group dps goes way up by chaining

forest nacelle
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i still play it.

gilded oasis
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Im a belf tyvm

arctic socket
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question boys, how tf do i get seal of diurna's chosen to proc

keen spruce
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Helm enchant

proven jasper
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fire dmg

arctic socket
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The helm enchant didn't proc my ring Once

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in the entire dungeon

proven jasper
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Helm enchant, shadowflame patch

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it should

keen spruce
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Shadowflame patch, flaring cowl, bomb dispenser

rain mortar
royal lantern
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dont say shadowflame patch

arctic socket
royal lantern
arctic socket
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sorry

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it proced it once

shy pecan
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Grieftorch

keen spruce
balmy condor
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when I tell them, I'm insane

proven jasper
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what if we just get the community to spam comment it on every video

gilded oasis
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comment section of anywhere is a cesspool

forest nacelle
proven jasper
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theres no way you miss it then

keen spruce
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Maybe like absolute worst case scenario, never restealth, and bad chaining with one mob at low hp, and large pulls out of sync with your vanish or dance every. Single time

forest nacelle
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im a nobody

keen spruce
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Then you might be in the high single digits

shy pecan
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But my restealths… sadgestitch

keen spruce
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But that like… doesn’t happen

gilded oasis
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no restealths are bad for my mental

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and my iw

rain mortar
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The spec is just built in such a way that everyone is fooled into believing stealth is so important. I’ll still argue I want restealth because it feels good

proven jasper
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No iw is the only valid reason

keen spruce
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People also don’t account for the downtime required per restealth

rain mortar
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But it’s doesn’t actually matter for my dmg

keen spruce
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Like for you to drop combat you need to not be doing damage

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Which obviously hurts your damage

balmy condor
forest nacelle
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oh god.

proven jasper
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brother those ppl need to seek help

balmy condor
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fuck a restealth, we gotta convince people to even take the damn thing in the first place

proven jasper
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massively

forest nacelle
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its worse than i thought

balmy condor
proven jasper
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Garrote + iw could literally BE THE ONLY abilities assa has and im chilling

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thats my shit

forest nacelle
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my M+ friends would HATE me if i didn't

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take iron wire

proven jasper
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Same

balmy condor
forest nacelle
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sorry

balmy condor
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feels like I'm seeing something I shouldn't

forest nacelle
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old friends called me toast.

rain mortar
forest nacelle
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so im keeping that alive in discord πŸ˜„

balmy condor
# rain mortar Lol wait what? People NOT playing IW? Maybe on a spiteful week but even then it’...

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keen spruce
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I’ve seen that video

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With the toast

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But I can’t remember where it’s from

forest nacelle
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wait wut

keen spruce
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That pfp

forest nacelle
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OH

keen spruce
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Is from a YouTube video

forest nacelle
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powdered toast man

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look it uip

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up*

gilded oasis
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yeah bozo

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look it up

keen spruce
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It’s been like a decade

forest nacelle
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more

gilded oasis
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old ass

forest nacelle
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like 2 decades

runic hinge
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Yeah uninformed noob

forest nacelle
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im old.... WTF.

balmy condor
# keen spruce That pfp

also shmeeps while your here, your duck is getting a crazy amount of air time, when is bro gonna land his kick flip he's just hovering there menacingly

gilded oasis
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hes cookin

rain mortar
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People not taking IW are the same people who press feign once per dungeon because they think the DMG is more important and their +10 keys are BIG lol

gilded oasis
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next tony hawk

proven jasper
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hes going for the world record

normal mist
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Tony Quack

keen spruce
balmy condor
gilded oasis
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abuse of power

normal mist
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LOL

proven jasper
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brotato chip…

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We got a quirky white boy here

forest nacelle
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so, they made BFA raids soloable....... just got more tmog πŸ˜„

normal mist
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Since you're talking about tmog

forest nacelle
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uh oh

royal lantern
forest nacelle
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wtf did i start.

normal mist
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Nzoth / Ghun / Jaina are now soloable

rain mortar
# forest nacelle bruh...

Did a 12 key the other day on my ele and this rogue at the end was complaining about healer - check logs he pressed feign one time all dungeon lmao

forest nacelle
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yus

normal mist
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Siege of orgrimmar is on a DAILY lockout

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Tmog talk over

runic hinge
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I got a lot of help from the tmog people on Friday so they’re all good to me

forest nacelle
balmy condor
rain mortar
keen spruce
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I’m gonna Brolapse your b-hole

proven jasper
normal mist
forest nacelle
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πŸ‘€

balmy condor
balmy condor
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for my bregnancy

keen spruce
forest nacelle
gilded oasis
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broseph overcooked

gilded oasis
keen spruce
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Did you know you can block team Snapchat

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On Snapchat

gilded oasis
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wait really

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stage 5 clingers

keen spruce
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I’ve been getting so many promo messages from them

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So I reported their Mother’s Day thing

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And it gave me the option to block them

gilded oasis
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lmfao

heavy forge
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Ok I loved that so much, this hsould be written in every pin

subtle tundra
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@proven jasper wtf is your name

proven jasper
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it was cope

gilded oasis
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wym theres still time for it to be true

subtle tundra
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ret pally though......

runic hinge
subtle tundra
keen spruce
gilded oasis
keen spruce
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Ask Stu

proven jasper
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nah man you gotta MAKE it true yourself

subtle tundra
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assa is topping meters in raid, so 0 chance to get any more changes

runic hinge
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Stu is being big mad

subtle tundra
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maybe a nerf

gilded oasis
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what did you do to him

proven jasper
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yeah nerf assa for sure

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too op

runic hinge
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He’s not out yet today

gusty mirage
keen spruce
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Oh wait no I see it down there

subtle tundra
runic hinge
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I went golfing and the gf just woke up so he hasn’t been let out to be a menace

subtle tundra
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@gusty mirage you werent lying about the range. basically evoker

gilded oasis
junior aurora
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3 pm 😳 ur gf being a menace

gusty mirage
subtle tundra
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but we cant have acro

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LOL

gusty mirage
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the only thing ret has to be in melee range for is auto attack swings

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ggs

runic hinge
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Well we don’t go to bed until 5 normally he’s out and about by now tho

keen spruce
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Does Stu ever snuggle

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Or do he just attac

junior aurora
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ret and unholy wondering why other melee specs complain about range

keen spruce
runic hinge
gusty mirage
keen spruce
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AYO

gilded oasis
keen spruce
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my man’s been holding out on us

runic hinge
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I’m under the covers there

junior aurora
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that bird is plotting

gilded oasis
junior aurora
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look at that side eye

keen spruce
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So fuckin comfy

gusty mirage
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Stu's plotting his destruction

runic hinge
gilded oasis
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LMAO

junior aurora
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i think hes fully aware

gusty mirage
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he doesn't know the extent though

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unfortunate

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I'll miss you @runic hinge

runic hinge
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I’ll miss you guys too

gusty mirage
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but I for one welcome my new avian overlord

gusty mirage
keen spruce
runic hinge
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Stu laying on top of me in the bed was a big deal.

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Only third time that’s happened

gilded oasis
runic hinge
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He does snug my gf a lot more than me tho

gilded oasis
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she prob smells better

runic hinge
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But I am not trying to get pics of her in this discord

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Oh for sure

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Okay I am like 6 beers deep and I need a nap

gusty mirage
runic hinge
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Oxi I shot a 114 this morning

junior aurora
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he doesnt have a big enough bed for all of us oxi

gilded oasis
gusty mirage
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gamer

runic hinge
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Life is not good

gilded oasis
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wait wrong ping

gusty mirage
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I haven't golfed yet

gilded oasis
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oh well im going with it

gusty mirage
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it won't stop fucking raining man

runic hinge
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That was my first full 18 and it was ugly. I’m getting lessons

junior aurora
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a 114? Did you blow a 114 too

keen spruce
gusty mirage
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its ok I haven't swung a clujb in nearly 9 months

keen spruce
gusty mirage
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I'll probably shoot the same

runic hinge
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My last round last year was an 87. The perks of being a 20 handicap

gilded oasis
keen spruce
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I’m playing in this in a couple of weeks

runic hinge
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Can shoot in the 80’s but can very easily shoot over 100

keen spruce
gusty mirage
runic hinge
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Yeah I’ve heard

gusty mirage
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you either shoot low to mid 80s

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or 95

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no in between

junior aurora
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whats the point of a golf handicap tbh

runic hinge
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Lessons for real this year

keen spruce
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Yeah I shot a 74 2 summers ago. And a 92 last week

junior aurora
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is it to standardize between courses

keen spruce
gusty mirage
potent lintel
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Does Grieftorch have any utility in mythic plus over storm boon?

gusty mirage
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if someone's like a 5 and someone's a 20, the 5 gives strokes to the 20 to "even the playing field"

gusty mirage
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also useful for bosses w/ damage amps + things that gotta die (last boss totem in brackenhide)

junior aurora
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so a golf handicap is to make people feel better about themselves in a competitive setting?

potent lintel
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Im only going to be doing mythic plus and im debating grief over boon

keen spruce
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Without it being like, very unfun

gusty mirage
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you're also significantly less likely to die with grief

junior aurora
gusty mirage
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damn

runic hinge
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Yeah I shot my best round of an 86 last year and then I shot 111 103 in the club championship

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Not even two weeks later

dark token
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lol we might be nerfed. blizz looks at hc logs sideeyemonkey

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500k on this boss kinda crazy

runic hinge
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Golf is so fun

keen spruce
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I’m making big swing changes rn so my game is gonna be in shambles all summer

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I wanna get down to single digits by next spring tho

junior aurora
dark token
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ye

royal lantern
junior aurora
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i think we’ll be fine

runic hinge
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I’m gonna get a lesson for sure. I know some of my problem is just not golfing enough but I think I could use some pointers from a club pro to shore it up

dark token
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than gnarlroot

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idk

junior aurora
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it also ended at the perfect time for your cds

keen spruce
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Probably coach first then fitted clubs

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So you don’t get fitted for your goofy ass swing

paper blaze
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if i have to buy with bullon the weap from igira or the weapon from sarkareth wich one better?

junior aurora
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it doesnt matter which one you take

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igira weapon has some flavor added if you care about that

gusty mirage
junior aurora
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yeah assa isnt picky with secondaries

paper blaze
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ya sark one is dope but also terros one XD

gusty mirage
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oh you can always nab a heroic terros one and upgrade it to max for the appearance

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but that was one of the better daggers this expac πŸ™‚

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I'm a big fan of it

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but yeah essentially just go with mog tbh, like ryolith said assa likes all stats almost equally

keen spruce
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Broodkeeper daggie was neat

gusty mirage
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dreamcarver just has a neat bonus that's like a cool little QOL thing

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like movespeed, etc

keen spruce
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I never got a dreamcarver

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On any difficulty

gusty mirage
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then you missed out on the buffs just randomly not working halfway through the tier

junior aurora
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i got one on my rat rogue that ed carried yesterday

keen spruce
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No flavor 4 me

gusty mirage
junior aurora
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i still havent used the active tho

gusty mirage
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giant would make you big but no stam

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it was really funny

runic hinge
junior aurora
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also got a thorncallers but i dont think im gonna learn outlaw

keen spruce
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But volume definitely most important

gusty mirage
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getting fit is actually ridiculously important

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but if you're still getting into the groove of things and changing your swing, it's better to wait

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unless you got cash to burn

keen spruce
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Go download swing profile app too. Very goodge

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You can compare your swing path to pros and it gives you some rough angles on your swing

runic hinge
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I’m gonna probably do lessons and see what he thinks and then do a fitting there. I’m sure my course is gonna do a sponsored one at some point this summer and it might be better to wait and fix major issues and do a fitting after

keen spruce
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Ye

runic hinge
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I also have 5 sets of clubs here from my dad dying too so

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Maybe one of them will work

keen spruce
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Same fam aPES_Salute

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The dead dad special, Tommy bahama shirts and hella golf clubs.

runic hinge
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Lmao so true

keen spruce
runic hinge
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I have probably like 7 sets now but only 5 I woudl play

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Okay. I nap and the I’ll be awake for my pre raid hangover.

gusty mirage
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when @keen spruce finishes his pilots license we'll get him to fly us all out to a RH golf outing

runic hinge
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Perfect

gilded oasis
keen spruce
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The ravenholdt invitational

runic hinge
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Lmfao. Stu has been silent for the past hour I’ve been home and now he’s popping off

keen spruce
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Ryder cup rules against outlaw chat

slate crown
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How many sparks are we up to? 2?

runic hinge
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2 full this week yes

balmy condor
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Ye

runic hinge
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He loves the nap time pop off

spice spire
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Me fr

analog knot
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This might be an incredibly inane question but how is assassination in the current meta? Does it feel good to play? Been itching to play some rogue lately, and assa has always been the coolest spec 😎

keen spruce
gilded oasis
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feels like pudding between your toes

keen spruce
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Feels like a warm stick of butter. Melting on a big old pile of flapjacks…. Yeah

junior aurora
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assa feels real good when u dont got a bitch in ur ear tellin u how bad it is

half prawn
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so, how do i solve the problem of not h aving enough energy regen to keep up envenom on ST. im even sending it at 4 cp and it still drops at times

analog knot
keen spruce
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You basically chain envenoms as long as possible. If the chain drops for whatever reason, pool back up to 90% energy and start a new chain

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Don’t pool during CDs

half prawn
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ah. ya ive just been blasting. ill find the video tho

balmy condor
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!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
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Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

  • If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
  • Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
  • Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
  • With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
keen spruce
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I always forget that bot exists

royal lantern
keen spruce
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It’s an impoStu

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Default discord gif

royal lantern
keen spruce
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I will soon be able to post my new pet in pet channel POGGive

haughty flicker
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nice

foggy juniper
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ashes trinket + grief isnt odd?

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2 on use

junior aurora
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one is just an extra dps button

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it doesnt feel that awkward

foggy juniper
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grief?

balmy condor
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ashes + grief is generally the best combo

foggy juniper
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ash with cds and grief w/e?

balmy condor
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yes

cursive frost
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Sin feeling so good again, even in keys it’s blasting. I mean we aren’t meta but we are solid

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And not trolling to be sin in raid anymore

subtle tundra
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ehhh blasting in keys is overselling it

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is playable

clever sapphire
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if you just use cooldowns in the 2nd pull you will do good dmg

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using cooldowns when any other spec uses it will result in you being 3rd place

subtle cipher
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ash

clever sapphire
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ketchup?

urban lily
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its mediocre

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at best

versed mica
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I just wish we got more bullions. I mostly play outlaw so I bought outlaw bis items

clever sapphire
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3

urban lily
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4

waxen oyster
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torch is class wide

clever sapphire
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but yes

versed mica
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3

waxen oyster
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so is eranog ring

urban lily
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i got 4, maybe im a wizard

clever sapphire
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you didnt get one last week

urban lily
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2 from bosses 2 from quest

clever sapphire
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in that case

proven jasper
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you missed one from last week then

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yeah

urban lily
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shiet

versed mica
#

IDK I think not having ember trinket as sin is kinda trolling

waxen oyster
#

its more trolling for sub

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imo

cursive frost
#

You can roll fragment if you didn’t get ashes yet

versed mica
waxen oyster
#

honestly ashes is the only thing that isnt classwide

urban lily
#

this season will make people so spoiled, want to see all the cry when tww hits

#

lmao

waxen oyster
#

all 3 specs want torch and eranog

versed mica
#

Oh fragment

cursive frost
#

Fragment from halls of infusion

urban lily
#

exactly

versed mica
#

Fragment oversims doesn't it?

urban lily
#

?

versed mica
#

Or did they fix it?

#

It oversimmed back when it was current

junior aurora
#

its fixed but still not great to play

#

bc its a 3 min cd

cursive frost
#

Yeah the 3 min part is pretty cringe

clever sapphire
waxen oyster
#

happens

versed mica
#

I'd rather use old branch from last season lmao

clever sapphire
#

and cry about it in tww when they dont get their bis item week 1

waxen oyster
#

only 3 min classes left are boomy and

#

idk who else

junior aurora
#

it didnt happen going into this xpac

#

by anybody reasonable

versed mica
waxen oyster
#

sl fated you only got 3 items

#

the entire season

junior aurora
#

like this isnt the first time they’ve done this

proven jasper
#

brother i spent the entire of season 3 farming a nicholas of time only to get it when the season was ending

#

Theyll be fine

clever sapphire
urban lily
#

get out of your bubble lmao

waxen oyster
#

like sl s4 only gave you 3 items the entire season

proven jasper
#

?

#

what

junior aurora
waxen oyster
#

we’re gonna have 3 bullion items next week

urban lily
#

people are already crying everywhere to make bullions a thing since day 1 of tww

#

wait for tww launch

#

lmao

proven jasper
#

Im just saying the game doesn’t work this way most of the time and if you dont understand that its on you man

#

not sure why u attacked me

urban lily
#

didnt attacked you lol

clever sapphire
#

tbh i dont want bullions on "normal" seasons

hexed willow
#

I’d be ok with bullions that guaranteed an item every 6 weeks

versed mica
urban lily
#

now that they have a taste

#

they will go nuts

hexed willow
#

Like really make it a β€œsorry you didn’t get something” kind of thing

waxen oyster
#

maybe like

#

an option if 3 bad vaults

#

or something

urban lily
#

legit forums, reddit are flooded with people asking for it staying as it is

#

and that will just make raid bosses more irrelevant than ever

waxen oyster
#

i think 3 vaults given up would be fair

#

personally

#

idk

versed mica
royal lantern
#

more news at 10

urban lily
#

yep

#

p much

waxen oyster
#

thats just people in general

urban lily
#

wtf i need to raid to get gear???

#

u trolling??

waxen oyster
#

most popular games are instant gratification ones

urban lily
#

how a boss will not give me best gear on the first kill?

#

shit game

royal lantern
#

reminder about the post saying "bullions make Raid gearing more relevant then ever!!!!" when it makes raid gear even LESS relevant then it allready is lol

versed mica
#

There's a reason why phone games allow you to just buy everything you need

versed mica
#

Some people don't like the farm, they want to just feel powerful

urban lily
#

just like that snd post

versed mica
#

It's an ego thing

waxen oyster
#

the only thing i dislike about sockets

junior aurora
#

the snd post that was clearly talking about subs rotation you mean

waxen oyster
#

is the fact you can roll one on gear

royal lantern
#

like, for a meme season like S4? sure, its a good system

In a normal season it would kill the game

like, we saw that in S2 in DF where crafted gear was just better then everything else and free, after 4 weeks the patch was dead and nobody really played anymore except the people that raidlogged for mythic prog lol

waxen oyster
#

so it feels like you spent a vault just because you didnt luck out

#

on the natty proc

versed mica
#

They need to bring back gear that has guaranteed gem slots and gems that drop from raids/dungeons

subtle cipher
hexed willow
junior aurora
#

just farm branch

hexed willow
#

I did

#

Branch messes up stats though, took some fuckery to replace it with ashes eventually

#

I dunno bad luck protection isn’t a bad thing; what we have now isn’t bad luck protection though

junior aurora
#

idk i think they should just do dungeon week twice a season and give you dinars there

hexed willow
#

Yeah

#

I agree with that

junior aurora
#

like once 6 weeks in and another time 6 weeks after that

versed mica
# subtle cipher

My only caveat with this is that mists remix is happening soon, so I'm not going to be playing retail while that goes on. So it would have been nice to have more bullions so I could buy a few pieces of mog after getting essential pieces, but idrc either way since it doesn't matter

hexed willow
#

You can still do lfr for bullions

#

It’s super fast

waxen oyster
#

i think alot of people didnt pay attention

hexed willow
#

I’m stoked for pandaria

versed mica
#

But LFR is hell

waxen oyster
#

to mop remix is df classes

#

not mop classes

junior aurora
#

yeah just wait a few weeks, hit up a normal raid and get all ur dinars

hexed willow
#

How? You can literally face roll your way through with 463s

versed mica
junior aurora
#

I think people know that mop remix is df classes?

#

its just something new to do

waxen oyster
#

no

#

some people are dumb

#

and think its real mop classic

hexed willow
#

I’m so excited for pandaria

junior aurora
#

i mean people not in touch are hearing people call it mop classic so idk if that makes them dumb for assuming

#

not everyone is as in tune with the current news as us

versed mica
waxen oyster
#

we dont actually get to raid in it do we

junior aurora
#

you do

#

all the raids are there

waxen oyster
#

well, classic andies are pepeclown

junior aurora
#

classic andies have cata dropping like this week too

hexed willow
#

I used to be a classic Andy 😦

versed mica
#

Yeah, you get to do raids. In fact, in order to get some rewards you have to do the raids and get achieves for them

waxen oyster
#

idk anyone jerking off cata classic

#

besides pvpers

hexed willow
#

The rollout has been awful

junior aurora
#

i mean what else are the classic andies gonna do

#

sod been miserable lately

waxen oyster
#

cata is too complex for the average classic andy

#

vanilla is their cap

junior aurora
#

elitist take

hexed willow
#

Sod went so far downhill in p3 😦

#

Makes me sad, loved the concept

waxen oyster
#

im afraid its gonna be lfr difficulty

#

average group would chain wipe on dark animus if it was remotely hard

#

or durumu kills 80% of your group

versed mica
#

Either way, doing it with my guild so I'm gonna have fun either way

obtuse cliff
#

!wa

cinder grove
#

Should we always aim to use vanish for improved garrote 3 sec before KB ends ?

high jetty
#

Vanish the last three seconds of KB. Use garrote, ambush envenom in some order depending on CP

clever sapphire
#

unless you are in keys where you are not getting many resets, yes

#

in raid always last 3 sec

#

in m+ its situational, if you really need that extra kb dmg on a specific mob sure

#

but i mostly use it to spread more bleeds when i cant restealth

buoyant moat
#

So obv not for this season b/c of all the stat bloat but in a normal season what are the stat % breakpoints we normally shoot for before we start caring about them?

royal lantern
#

there are none

buoyant moat
#

oh really?

royal lantern
#

(and there are none for the far far far majority of the specs in the game)

buoyant moat
#

ahh ok I played SV hunter and 30% haste was the mandatory stat brakpoint we needed to function so i didnt know if that was the case for other specs

runic hinge
#

!dagger

fresh kelp
#

For mythic Igira, if i do not have spears, where do i stand? not finding much room thats not a spear area, or infront of boss

dark token
#

U stand on any spear

#

Preferably not a double stack

#

Feint if it's a triple stack

arctic socket
#

i have hit this target dummy for 6 mins

#

1 earanog ring proc

#

TF i do

#

to make it better

balmy condor
#

Pray

thorn fjord
#

Anyone got the PB gif handy

keen spruce
subtle cipher
#

hc nymue

#

lmao

solemn lily
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
ashen topaz
#

guys random question, does any1 know why im not getting sparks on my rogue? im gearing him, but i only got 1 half spark from the weekly, and i did all normal raid and some m+ dungeons, i should be able to get 3 Splintered sparks right? and 4 with the weekly quest

slate crown
#

I was wondering this as well, I'm not sure myself. I was able to get splintered sparks, however they only dropped for me after I completed the valdrakken weekly

#

Before that, I had done a bunch of the raid, dungeons, etc, nothing

#

then after doing it, I suddenly started getting the catchup sparks

ashen topaz
#

yeah i did raid before doing weekly, and didnt get any, havnt done stuff after weekly though, will see if i get now lol

empty crag
#

What npc should i use my cruel carver on?

woeful meteor
#

any dragonkin

violet jackal
#

!dagger

violet jackal
#

doesn't matter pick your fantasy

subtle cipher
#

augury is any decent or uber garbage?

violet jackal
#

mid

errant swallow
junior aurora
#

AA 7 i could not press cds on trash because they would pop before 3 seconds on KB passed

naive rapids
#

anyone in here have exp with sin in pvp? im stuggle to do much damage compared to other dps. im getting KBs and able to CC but my damage is just embarressingly bad.

balmy condor
naive rapids
#

ty[

autumn frost
#

What are people running for 11+ keys on tyrannical

paper blaze
#

igra dagger what buff gives? and if i use it i have to w8 20 sec to use my on use trinket?

empty crag
#

!dagger

paper blaze
#

so the dagger is a huge meme?

balmy condor
#

It’s a regular dagger with small utility bonuses

#

So

#

Idk

#

It’s objectively better than any other dagger

paper blaze
#

things u buy with bullon until what ilvl they get? 528?

errant swallow
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
keen spruce
#

just play arterial shock

runic hinge
junior aurora
#

azure vaults 7

#

im quitting outlaw until they yeet stealth shit from it

#

let me just hit big pistol shots again

brittle cloud
#

Any tips on grieftorch usage? Currently using after full opener when it comes off cd after using Ashes.
Also, assuming it doesn’t benefit from nightstalker? Anything else we’re supposed to do to buff it?

junior aurora
#

whenever its off cd

#

nothing buffs it

keen spruce
#

then just rip it on CD after that

brittle cloud
#

Ye, thanks.

keen spruce
#

ig don't put your ashes on CD right before burst

junior aurora
#

shouldn't line up anyway

brittle cloud
#

With deaths it can

keen spruce
#

u never know when someone is gonna jump off a platform

junior aurora
#

oh ig

runic hinge
#

I hate grieftorch and im buying a nelth trinket next weeek

keen spruce
#

but under normal circumstances ye it shouldn't

brittle cloud
#

Makes sense.

runic hinge
#

I need one on use i can macro and a passive or else I forget

#

although i watched a zero clip and he has a giant torch WA so

#

maybe i should do that instead of spending a 3rd bullion on a trinket

keen spruce
#

yeah i had a WA

#

in s1

#

just a bigass icon

#

popped up whenever it was available

slate crown
slate crown
#

you can make stop motion WAs i've never made one before tho, area I haven't ventured into

#

Just on the first frame, then zoom in on the eye with a WOOOOO when Cd is ready

keen spruce
junior aurora
#

woulda been a good vendetta weakaura

#

thematic

runic hinge
#

maybe it comes back if its like cdr/duskwalkers in death stalker tree

keen spruce
#

oh

#

tga

balmy condor
#

Nice paint watermark

runic hinge
#

yeah how am I supposed to turn that into an emote with your free software bs over the top

keen spruce
#

i snipping tooled it

#

just download the tga

#

you can put it straight into wow

subtle cipher
#

was doing a 9 NO

#

storm boss slapped me

limber lion
#

Classic

oak tangle
#

even more impressive to stay melded long enough for it to clap 2 cheeks

balmy condor
#

finally

#

a use case for tricks

#

it's not a useless button

oak tangle
#

you dont tricks your top dps to try and make them get threat on pull

runic hinge
#

I tricks my guildies in raid all the time but they all cancel now

waxen oyster
#

proceed to get a free reset when fyrak jumps to kill them

runic hinge
#

im doing that next rotation

#

now that ive quit spriest

pulsar void
#

guys is it worth multi-dotting add packs with garrote and rupture individually?

grim jay
slate crown
#

The idea is to get enough bleeds out so that your energy return matches your spending ("Saturation")

#

You'll start to get a feeling for when that is after playing it for a bit

pulsar void
#

is there like a cut-off when it is not worth? so like during KB period? or if adds are going to die in 10secs?

#

thank you πŸ™‚

royal lantern
#

the general "rule" you should set yourself is like

#

on pulls with IC just spread wide

shy pecan
royal lantern
#

when you have no IC and need to manualy multi dot, keep them running on priority targets/the big guys, cus smaller adds just die too fast

royal lantern
quiet oar
quiet oar
runic hinge
#

it's like 8 bleeds

pulsar void
#

Thank you Tryan and Lisonna

#

also is anyone else having issues with sin simming a lot lower than reality?

balmy condor
#

in what way

rotund oak
#

blue pill u sim bad red pill ur sim reality

runic hinge
#

bet theyre doing amidrisill and hitting them damage amps like a boss

dense horizon
#

yo

#

anyone know stat priority for assass rogue?

#

and to rock 2 set or 4 set?

balmy condor
#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

dense horizon
#

thx fam

#

2 set or 4 set ?

balmy condor
#

what

runic hinge
#

wahtever you can get

balmy condor
#

both?

dense horizon
#

that doesnt make any sense

#

for example fw uses 2 set only

#

im asking if assass uses 4 set or 2 set

runic hinge
#

are you talking pvp

dense horizon
#

yeah

#

am i in the wrong section

balmy condor
#

ICANT pvp

runic hinge
balmy condor
dense horizon
#

LOL im sorry

#

thx guys

runic hinge
#

no worries

#

enjoy

#

also its mastery

dense horizon
#

thank you!

#

and okay bet

runic hinge
#

over everything

dense horizon
#

sounds good

runic hinge
#

and the 4 set is whatever

#

2 set is fine

dense horizon
#

okie thanks bro

runic hinge
#

you dont get many 4 set procs in pvp

#

I only got to 1800 o

clever sapphire
#

would bee rank 1 if you got more 4set procs

#

trust

#

pve player talkin

runic hinge
#

nah

#

you jsut can't chain envenom like that ever lol

#

pvp is so diff

runic hinge
#

should be it's own game mode

clever sapphire
#

ye i know a bit of pvp from pikas stream

#

its hit every stun 30 times

runic hinge
#

I love pika but that dude is insane

clever sapphire
#

while swapping targets

#

whilst drinken

#

with one hand

runic hinge
#

he just knows everything

clever sapphire
#

he makes it look easy

#

i tried it once

#

got oneshot by a warri/dk

#

that was enough

runic hinge
#

i mean its a humongous knowledge check

pulsar void
# balmy condor in what way

On target dummy or patch work (no buffs) it says my dps should be ~220k with default BSL uptome or 245k with 100% uptime; however on the SW raiders dummy (some cleave) I am doing ~330k (dynamic overall) over 5 mins, and on raider dummy in val I am doing 290k over 5min

runic hinge
#

plus weak auras and then also perfect rotation and better cc than pve

clever sapphire
balmy condor
#

would have to see logs but yeh, either in execute or you're cleaving

#

sims report averages so it's entirely possible to beat the sim with perfect play and a bit of luck, but not by that much

#

there's a disconnect between the sims

pulsar void
balmy condor
#

and what you're doing

#

also would check to see if you're not comparing to a sim that's using m+ talents

#

that's a common one too

balmy condor
#

that looks okay

#

link the log

pulsar void
#

I dont know how to log lol

clever sapphire
clever sapphire
#

aight no idea in that case, sounds like a whispyr job

balmy condor
runic hinge
#

damn duyde

#

518

#

this dude is juiced

pulsar void
#

let me go hit SW dummy but like 10% of it will be cleave dam; the Val dummy gets to 0% very fast

hot fulcrum
#

Good morning.
I just wonder about Ashes trinket. Probably I missed dat info somewhere, so want to confirm.
I'm using KB tracker WA and there is an additional breakpoint to use trinket. But I also saw comment here to macro trinket into DM.
Can someone tell me dps diff when it's macroed into DM and when it's pressed at specific KB window breakpoint? Want to understand how much I'll loss if it's simplified with macro.
Thank you

balmy condor
# pulsar void let me go hit SW dummy but like 10% of it will be cleave dam; the Val dummy gets...

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/how-to-use-warcraft-logs-6341 I think logging in general is a pretty important skill to have to self-review, would highly recommend, it's not too hard

hot fulcrum
balmy condor
#

yes

hot fulcrum
#

Amazing. Life becomes simpler) Thank you again

runic hinge
#

DAMN the mods here are so good

#

and helpful

fierce sigil
#

How do i use the dagger from Igira?

clever sapphire
#

!dagger

clever sapphire
#

you go up to one of these

#

press dagger

#

you done

#

i think most people either use the leech or the speed

fierce sigil
#

So it is no damage gain with the usw of the dagger?

balmy condor
#

beast leech is ass

royal lantern
#

yeha, cus leech is ass

#

(for dps)

balmy condor
#

dragonkin or mechanical usually the move, humanoid can be good too

clever sapphire
#

is giant fixed btw? i remember it not giving the extra stam or something like that

balmy condor
#

who knows

clever sapphire
#

and that being the reaso why people didnt pick that one

runic hinge
#

critter probbaly good for flexign on your parse

clever sapphire
#

i dont even wanna think about parses

#

missed smolderon soak just before the bl phase

fierce sigil
#

And one Question that i have to ask for my Pi Priests… when is the Right Point to give Pi to assa Rogue? When i have used my dm or kb?

clever sapphire
#

i wanted to just jump into the lava

runic hinge
#

9 seconds in

runic hinge
#

but on dm

fierce sigil
runic hinge
#

on dm

balmy condor
#

if they uses the whisper macro (they really should), you just add a whisper into your dm macro

runic hinge
#

dm

balmy condor
#

and that's it

clever sapphire
fierce sigil
#

Ok ty guys!

normal mist
#

Or is PI ogcd?

#

(I don't play priest mb)

balmy condor
#

it's off gcd

#

but I don't understand the question

normal mist
#

What I meant was

#

If PI WAS a GCD, and he popped dm (and whispered the priest), the addon / wa would make the priest cast pi on him right?

balmy condor
#

okay, as respectfully as possible here

#

you realize that would be rotation automation

#

and break ToS

#

and I would be recommending breaking ToS

#

the macro just pops up a huge ass icon on their screen through a weakaura that tells them to PI

#

it doesn't physically cast the pi

normal mist
#

Oh,

balmy condor
#

cause

#

ya know

#

ToS

normal mist
#

Well now I know how it works

#

I just yell at my priest on discord for pi

balmy condor
#

yeah basically same deal except you don't have to coms at all

normal mist
#

Holy damn that's pretty cool tho

#

Like a pop up to "pi x guy asap"

balmy condor
#

ye

normal mist
#

I'm not really into WAs mister whispyr, apologies for the confusion above

subtle cipher
#

Usually what classes benefit more from PI?

balmy condor
#

just need to clarify that breaking ToS is no bueno

normal mist
#

Yes you did good thank you

balmy condor
#

in that order

subtle cipher
#

Sin is top1?

balmy condor
#

in single target yes

subtle cipher
#

Wow

balmy condor
#

in aoe it gets weird

#

I think in aoe it's like all the warlocks/ranged hunters/devoker

subtle cipher
#

For some reason I thought about ret

balmy condor
#

oh god no

#

pi is awful on ret

subtle cipher
#

Interesting

#

War?

balmy condor
#

uh

#

arms probably mid

#

fury dogshit

subtle cipher
#

Gg

balmy condor
#

would suggest looking it up on bloodmallet if you're interested

#

I'm just going off memory atm

subtle cipher
#

Will check that out

#

Thx!

balmy condor
#

np

clever sapphire
marsh zinc
#

@balmy condor I watched a lot of your videos on YouTube yesterday and it helped me a ton

Gonna force all my guild mates to leave a like later today

balmy condor
#

glad they helped

marsh zinc
#

Picking up on the conversation from earlier

I should macro dm trinket pi

And SD KB right?

balmy condor
#

typically with potion the dm macro gets a bit bloated

#

usually dm pi potion

#

sd kb trinket

marsh zinc
#

Ok does the order of SD and kb matter?

balmy condor
#

yes

#

sd first

marsh zinc
#

Thx

#

Ok I have one last question

On aoe/m+ with the bleed build

Do I hold vanish for kb or to multi dot more if I can't restealth or the dots run out

And if the first set of bleeds run out do I reapply or do I caustic spatter for the rest of the pull?

balmy condor
#

the second part is a bit of a trial and error experience thing

#

because "it depends"

#

sometimes the pack will be long enough to where you should reapply bleeds in order to maintain energy

#

sometimes you can get away with just eating a tea or two and it's good enough

#

sometimes there's a chain pull and you should rupture off a couple mobs to give you energy going into the next pack

#

sometimes there's still a dangerous caster in the pack that should get single targeted down

#

big part of assassination is having the skill to juggle that and make a decision

marsh zinc
#

I'll keep that in mind and thank u again

balmy condor
#

skill issue

quiet oar
grim tree
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
brave stump
#

!wa

jagged dragon
#

Does KB do more DMG at the end of its dot? I always wonder why to vanish at the end of it

royal lantern
#

idk if that will sound rude

#

but read what kingsbane does

normal mist
#

That's a nice way to understand abilities yes

grim jay
#

It sometimes is a nice way to think you understood it and you still dont aswell

#

Depending on how Blizzard felt on the day of writing

safe locust
#

Some Recommendation for Assa Streamer, with some Mythic Raid POV would be nice

balmy condor
#

I think some of my vods from amirdrassil are still up but I’m not playing season 4

#

:(

safe locust
#

sad ... im new on the Class and really enjoing it ... but need some Help tbo πŸ˜„

balmy condor
#

Post a log I’ll look at it in the morning

safe locust
balmy condor
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I’ve seen some truly horrid things man dw about it

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I’ll even hide it in a thread

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Nothing there

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Doesn’t exist

marsh zinc
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@safe locust im new too and like I said earlier today I watched a bunch of whispyrs videos on YouTube especially the one with opener and cool down management and it helped me a lot

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The one with the talent setups was good too

balmy condor
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I had a coaching session with a guy one time and he didn’t know what kingsbane was because it was too many talents for him and he got overwhelmed so he just took everything that said passive

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Different guy was like this sweet 70 year old and he had default binds and clicked half his bars

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Wonderful guy, but didn’t have rupture on his bars

quiet oar
balmy condor
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There is legit nothing I haven’t seen already

quiet oar
balmy condor
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People already did that in 8.3 with the slappy fists

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Because they equipped double fist weapons which disables mutilate

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We also did that in legion with the fok cloak that stacked up a damage buff for the next cast

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Was optimal to stack it to 28/30 and then rip a fok in single target

quiet oar
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Watch me buildong with Poison knife ??

balmy condor
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We did that too

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Notably on sylvanas between intermissions

dark token
balmy condor
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There was also a bug in Antorus where you would poisoned knife->shadowstep and deadly poison would stack its dot damage forever

quiet oar
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Well

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Watch me DTB with Instant and Wound poison ?

normal mist
agile geode
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just in case you need motivational stuff

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Letra/Lyrics:
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guardando attentamente i monumenti
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gusty mirage
digital folio
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!dagger

manic igloo
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With the dagger what would ppl pick for the buff? Like does the cheat death thing proc our cheat death?

royal python
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is there any other affix that affects and class / spec quality of life the way spiteful affects rogues

digital venture
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watch me go fists only and try to use builders

royal lantern
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if it works at all

cursive owl
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is assa still good ._. ?

manic quartz
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if good=fun, yes

cursive owl
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ok

manic quartz
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sub and assa are neck to neck in raid, but sub goes ahead if there is bosses where there is dmg amp.

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assa if the "worst" in m+ but you will do just fine unless you are pusing very high keys.

grim jay
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Sin is actually stronger if you get PI and the timings arent shit

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Except smolderon, maybe raszageth

manic quartz
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assa is also very straigth forward to play for the most part, which i like.

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Atleast i find it much easier than sub for example.

gusty mirage
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No cringe managing cooldowns around kill timers

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Either it lines up or it doesn’t

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#DeleteDust

hot tendon
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Durign Sin AoE rotation

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should we be tabbing around with Garrote?

grim jay
hot tendon
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or just keep on 1 target, and just blast

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spread it with IC

manic quartz
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Not really needed to tab, if youre lazy you can just use it on the same target few times

hot tendon
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Thank you!

manic quartz
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thats what i do most of the time πŸ˜„

hot tendon
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then that's what i will do πŸ˜„

normal mist
manic quartz
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if you tab target you get 9 imp garrotes if you use it in one target you get 7 unless im mistaken

normal mist
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You're correct

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3+2+2

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If you don't tab

manic quartz
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ye

mortal badger
royal lantern
gusty mirage
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God sub post rework would be so fucking nice w/o dust

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it's like

kind forge
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YES

gusty mirage
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so good

kind forge
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AMEN BROTHER

royal lantern
gusty mirage
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idk

royal lantern
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or still alive cus 3x vanish

gusty mirage
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I'm waiting for the smart person to sim it

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I'm dumb af bro

royal lantern
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@vestal wren

subtle tundra
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oxi how do i convince my guild to do mythic fyrakk when its not awakened......

royal lantern
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we need a smart person

subtle tundra
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i suggested we boost it

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no......

gusty mirage
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you can sell mounts

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for a lot

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do you guys need gold

subtle tundra
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yes i know we've boosted it the whole tier

gusty mirage
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people are paying millions for that shit still

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def worth it for the gold alone tbh

normal mist
gusty mirage
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stock back up for new expac

subtle tundra
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yea we're kinda set for gold

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i have 7mil after buying expac

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fuck man

gusty mirage
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can never have enough

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I had 4 million going into DF

normal mist
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I need 1M and accept donations

gusty mirage
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I burned through ~2.5 power leveling professions

royal lantern
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i had 300k and have 500k now

dark token
gusty mirage
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I'm down to roughly 1 million across all my characters

dark token
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U reset sod by vanishing once

subtle tundra
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ok so technically im playing ret cause my GM wanted a 2nd pala in TWW so i can guilt trip him into doing shit for me

gusty mirage
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yeah you def need the leggo

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you won't replace it before mythic tier weapons

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in s1

subtle tundra
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it will get very disabled

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πŸ™‚

gusty mirage
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probably

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but it's also 535

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so

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even if the effect is disabled

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it won't be replaced until raid drops

subtle tundra
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erm what the

gusty mirage
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anarchy allflame bud