#assassination
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that should just work
@gaunt moat
did my WA break?
🤔
and i did 3 keys and im pretty sure it worked all the way
even solo kb works
without dance
Using DM or not shouldn't affect it
maybe try reimporting it? i'm not sure
what happens when you use KB? do you see anything at all?
i've reimported that and still same issue, i got it for few seconds looks like it crash when im about to click second shiv
gonna record that, give me a sec
@gaunt moat
guys why cant i join +0s as a 480ilvl
because loads of 500+ people are doing 0s for weekly
Loool
wuuut
@opaque oriole I see other behavior that it shouldn't have (like the coverage percentage staying at 100% in white text)
It looks like the WA think KB duration has finished, and then stays for the 5s extra linger duration (it's not a "crash", it's just the WA thinking the ability has completed).
So, unfortunately i can't test it right now since i took a break from WoW and my sub is expired
but i'm also getting reports that it does work for others
i'd be happy if someone else could confirm if it works or not
"assassination" and "pumps in m+" are not things you often see togheter 
Maybe never
its good rn
mine worked fine even with SD and vanish
thanks for answer, i'll try to figure out whats wrong here
im doin like 300k in aoe at 479.8 ilvl
imagine if i was 500
i'd be pumpin 3-5mil
a sec
pls stop being cringe and baiting
can you go for full rotation? i mean use deathmark at start then at ~1min use KB again, check if it works then
I’m only 479 I haven’t played in months I’m so far behind nobody gonna inv me 😦 😦
start your own group
sure, will do a 2min run
my friend just checked that on his rogue and it works perfectly fine, not sure why it doesnt work for me
I just had the same issue, disappeared on 2nd deathmark
Looks like it happens on SD end?
u mean deathmark or "solo KB"
y
Okay so I had a different issue - mine was on the 2min CD window
the solo KB worked for
fine*
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
is Nick of Time bis also in MH?
oh ok i was hoping since it wasnt specified
Will be hard to look into it if I can’t produce the issue on my end (and it seems like there are mixed reports so it may not affect me), and I’m a bit busy today. But if it or other issues do happen on my end I can debug it later tonight @gaunt moat
Thanks! i really appriciate it
keep me updated if you do find something you fixed so i'll update the string on wago.io
when do we use vanish?
buff feels nice 
No you
when you wanna loose aggro off the stormwind guards
because you just killed the auctioneers
The low levels: 
(you will kill them again once its off cd)
my rogue art is almost done
gonna flex so hard

ty
i have beaten everyone so far today in keys (4 keys done)


Thats actually cute
just like quake 
No u
No u
No u
No u
No u @spice spire @grim jay
@balmy condor is the best assassinations player handsdown
and best content creator tbh
everyone else sucks massive cocks
What if they like it
my dude

in what fucking sphere of reality do you think 1) it's okay to just call people's mothers whores, and 2) tag people to do so
exactly
in the same fucking sphere where u give ur opinion
!mute 7d @shrewd nacelle enjoy your vacation champ
Who’s dumb enough to argue with an orange
h8 u too
Arguing is one thing, insulting something else
LOl
That guy just won 7 days vacation
Why doesn't my boss do the same
@gusty mirage wanna be my boss?
does that mean I can delegate the 8 things I have to do today to you?
Damn that guy seemed special
Who let him with a phone in the asylum
idk how that happens, my main rogue is like 500 doing 10's
real

you healing keys bud?
because balance is dogshit and feral is mid
hey, his damage is not THAT bad
Now that I think of it, I'll pass king
Im playing both feral and balance, aint no hot turd in hell youd find me healing this collection of dog ass dungeons
I had a small stroke trying to heal halls yes, so I figured my health was more important than timing keys
bonus points if the dungeon bugs out and you are stuck in combat for the entire run and cant drink for mana 🙂
we love HoI
Druids needs mana??
So, potentially a dumb question incoming.
is there a build for Assassination that does not require shadow dance?
Or is Shadow Dance just that good that it's a must have?
@opaque oriole @neon oxide @slate crown
Ok I think i know what's going on.
You're using KB on a dummy target with no HP.
I have something to turn the WA off for edge-cases where just applying KB instantly kills a target.
Coukd you please test on a target with a full/big HP pool?
the pug guys i see? yeha
Good spot, ill test
not really
the improved garrote uptime+dmg boost for kingsbane is just too much
cant really avoid dance
Ah, very well
Shadow Dance it is then
was worth a shot.
You basically dont notice dance anyways 
You can. But shadow dance is really that good z it’s many many % lower
Atleast in ST
Just tested - this is right, worked for both solo KB and then second KB with deathmark but then disappeared on my 2nd "solo KB" when the HP reached 0
tbf, i understand hating class tree dance (doing it aswell)
BUT atleast dance for Assa is almost 100% passive, macro it togheter with kingsbane and its just "kingsbane->garrote" every single time and thats it
no deeper thinking/adjustments required
I like Shadow Dance, stealth'd DoTs doing more damage is very thematically interesting and being able to vanish or shadow dance to re apply is fun
.. I did not think about it like that.
So how does the macro for that look like?
/showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast ShadowDance
/cast Kingsbane
?
are we prayer circling for deathstalker to not suck yet
Envenom technically top, lets go Envenom
Cool, thanks 🙂
The issue I had was that if the KB initial dmg killed tge target, the rest of the code to turn it if didn't trigger.
So i turn it off manually.
But since dummy targets can't die, it was confusing for you.
@opaque oriole @neon oxide
yes
and if you have the ashes of embersoul trinket, can add that one aswell 
like, thats not even the "lazy option", thats the best way to use shadowdance and kingsbane
Yeah, explains why we were bothing having the "error" at different points. The training dummies in valdrakken have pathetically low HP
Appreciated, friend!
thanks sir 🏆
hello guys i have some question about an item raid if someone can explain what is worth for raid and MM+ with https://www.wowhead.com/fr/item=207783/taille-rêve-cruel?bonus=7981:10358:5871&class=4&spec=259#comments
Ce/cette Épique dague a un niveau d'objet de 441. C'est dépouillé et vendu par des PNJ. Dans la catégorie Dagues. Ajouté dans World of Warcraft : Dragonflight.
in french if possible
i have make this one #show Plaie des rois
/cast Thé de chardon
/use 14
/cast Danse de l’ombre
/cast Sang froid
/cast Plaie des rois
!dagger
Les effets possibles sont extrêmement minime, ça n'en vaut pas vraiment la peine. Utilise la si tu l'as, pas grave si non
#show kingsbane
/cast Thistle tea
/use 14
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Cold Blooded
/cast kingsbane
tbh the move speed one (idk what dragonkin in french is)
Dragonnets
thanks wowhead!
😄
merci je lai mais du coup ca ne sert a rien que je la use on cd c ca ?
I play in English myself so I never saw the French client, but Dragons are pretty universal to understand fortunately 😂
French is a cool language, wish they would've forced me to take a foreign language in university
I would've picked french
ahah i can talk in english yes but im very limited xD
L'effet est permanent, en bref une fois que tu as l'effet, pas besoin de d'utiliser a moins que tu veuilles changer l'effet pour un autre
They make almost all students in the US take a foreign language in either high school or college and about 95% of them never really learn or use it again
I'm french Canadian myself, learning English was a great step. That said, 3y of Spanish at school when I was young and I couldn't hold a basic exchange still
My undergrad program didn't require a foreign language oddly enough
in other news, despite having my PI revoked yesterday for all boss except Gnarlroot, I still destroyed most of my raid so, great success
I dont think that one is going to work for my client. 
Also.. what's the /use 14 thing?
Trinket slot #2 - 13 is #1
Well, now I feel dumb.
Either way, much appreciated.
I am sure this was already discussed yesterday but my god between the Shades and Incorporeals restealthing this week is absolutely cursed
Restealths are a crutch, embrace the light, cleave the heretics!
More like spend my extra Bullions on an Outlaw weapon
that makes you a heretic, thought
Pretty sure outlaw cares more about restealth than sinc
Crackshot goes brrr
I went to a liberal arts college so that is probably why it was part of my gen ed courses
I hate typos

I'm going to ban you
thats many people's reaction to what i say and do
It's s4, the unhinged is coming out
im universally unhinged
Please do this mf needs to be stopped
Way too sassy for how little nova is posted
Just waiting for the next time Nova says something in discord
ill post nova pics commensurate to your rate of getting bitches
GOD DAMN
Start posting dog
only bitches he meets is whenever he crosses a mirror 

Yet I’m seeing you type
Curious!
you dont even remember what i look like dog
I’ve never seen what u look like
lies
@quiet oar Got ash, dream carver and thorn last night 🤌🤌
i had it as my pfp for like 3 days
no like half a year ago
join trade channel to get something crafted
a druid writing "i hate all those people that only accept meta healers"
leave trade channel
2020 was ten years ago bro
Don’t ask me how
It just was
Would
So he’s not a raccoon… he’s a robot
Sorry
first mistake was trusting a global channel
i jusst wanted my 2nd BSL item 
I like to copy paste questionable literature in general raid chat
It’s a simple life
next time try global defense

@gusty mirage confirm
I'd change my name to #1 stealthi simp
but then @marble hemlock would get grumpy that I "change my name all the time"

@earnest remnant confirm?
Man is numbed to me
i mean, if you do oxi, # stealthi simp for example, theres no problem
Damn
20s? what am I supposed to do with the extra 15s after I'm done fapping?
kpop idol looking mf
Get with the times old man
Go again
Holy shit you can last 5s!?
(it's only 4s but I round up)
cheats
And good skin damn
Oh I do remember that pfp

No more luke for ngl
how do you know it wasn't me
Legitimately thought it was just a random K-pop pfp ngl
@earnest remnant depositions need to be banned
agreed
pls no ban
Good looking man btw stealthi good stuff
this shit is fucking miserable bro
What’s worse discovery or depo
discovery is generally any and all supporting documentary, interrogatories, requests to produce, depositions, etc
I need to be my lawyer so I can sue my guild for unlawful removal of PI
Ah ok
mostly so I can meme them to death with it
i'm torn between Torch and Boon, i bought Ashes with my two first bullions and this is the last week my guild even does raids, so im thinking maybe boon for m+?
How about you discover the value and joy you bring to others lives bozo
How about you learn how to type so you don't have to edit every single message
Is boon
I kinda like torch for M+ too tbh
How about you sass me again and I’ll kiss you on the ducking mouth bud
torch is sick for both tbh
Yeah it’s nice
I’m a boon simp for rogue tho
Same
Group wiping and the problem mob is at 10%? TORCH IT
you have to factor in the potato brain into the sim dps
if you play with people who might actually be mops with a headset on
torch all day
Couldn’t find the I’m a mop gif from family guy
chances are boon gets you killed more than Torch too, so then you only feed other people's torches. And thats a shame!
yeah ok would have to be a mop to die due to boon but still
Shadowstep evasion and cloak 
I would do that, but you wouldnt enjoy.... or would you?
Big brain is to run both so when you die because of boon you can torch
There’s a reason I like it for rogue

Test me

I have a new goal in life. Luckily, I already have both these trinkets! TO THE LAB!
How bad it is to use Ashes/ 2nd on use(boon/grief) as Assa m+
I was going to ask the exact same thing
or should i get statstick trinket
not bad at all
Don’t think it’s that bad but not 100% ashes wants to be with CDs
i really like grieftorch as 2nd trinket
Oxi said it all, whats fun with that set up is that you have supplemental dmg during downtime and helps a ton to put pressure
Hows boon for sub? ( i know i should ask it in sub section but there is bound to be some sub lurkers here)
luckily its usually rogues dying on pull
And for the second bullion piece of eq would you advise the second trinket or the ring that gives fire dmg? (Seal of diurnas chosen)
if i play both assa and sub in raid and m+ torch is what im gravitating towards
nah we just pop cheat 🙂
cant catch me running around without a 2nd life tbh
I'm the wrong person to ask tbh, I'm not a boon enjoyer XD I torch things
cheat is a dps cd
facts
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
sub lookin rough after a single night of WCL data, seems kind of weird
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
there are wcl log issues
i was speculating something must be bugged
cause they are at the bottom of smolderon
what should I get as 2nd bulion item? I got 2 hc track daggers and a LFR torch? I got ashes 1st bulion :p
also, excited to log and try the sin buffs!
sub clones damage is not attributed correctly
so it looks worse than it actually is
How much % are they missing
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
grieftorch or bottle? have both, bottle sims better, having a hard time believing it.
torch sims without resets
torch stole my heart
also, is it just me, or are all daggers pretty much shit this tier?
I promise I am not intentionally misdirecting to another DPS
they all seem like sidegrades, no clear winnner for me
I mean, the only metric by which this is true is: does dagger have on use effect or not. So in that regard, I guess?
not every tier is gonna have a dagger with an OP proc
can theoretically farm a heroic Nick from Doti but... yeah
nick of time does exist though
you're right i guess, used to nick last season.
get ion on the horn and tell him to add sylv dagger to bullion vendor
Makes sense, I see you're doing this with the overkill value on the KB initial damage event. Was this just to save the effort of adding a standalone death event check? Or was there another reason to do it this way? I can add the death event check instead and send you the string if that would help if there's not another reason to not use the death event.
Hey guys when do we use ashes in our opener? Is it with deathmark?
With kingsbane. You can add it to your your castsequence shadow dance/kingsbane macro if you want
Okay cool and quick question which spec is better to bring to raid, sin or sub?
Is there any updated PI sims after buff? need some numbers to convince RL tonight
Would need bloodmallet to update the simc build they use for their charts
or un momento
profileset."PI"+=external_buffs.pool=power_infusion:120:1
off the top of my head, if you toss this at the end of your simc input in an advanced sim
that should show you your PI gains
yo is someone able to link me to the icon packs
or point me in the direction
lost everything on new pc
think it does not need the :1 at the end (wiki)
profileset."power infusion"+=external_buffs.pool=power_infusion:120
those actually look cool thanks but I remember there being like a "dark" icon pack of some kind in here

quantity is assumed to be 1 if not present so both is correct
Icon/nelths is 1.5% better for me than torch on single target and dung slice. I wonder if resets make up for that.
Does torch outsim stat sticks for other people generally?
(added the wiki link to the above)
they were relatively close prior to the buff iirc, aura buffs make stat sticks more valuable cause you do more damage
so I wouldn't be shocked to see nelth/icon simming better for other people now
Oh that’s true. NGL I probably take icon here then. 2 others in my push group run it
ye its a very good trinket, I wish they didn't nerf it
after 2:30 hours got my 2nd inv for the weekly quest
because it gave obscene stats originally 
💀
Pugging is the hardest mechanic in this game
-1 lethality, -1 acro, +1 alacrity, +1 deeper
i got myself a tank buddy, getting into a key has never been easier
its assa you dont need it
Oxi always asks me to go deeper
smh it feels so hard to play without acro
Why do i need a ring which does fire dmg? Bec as far as i know sin rogue doesnt do fire dmg
ur helm enchant does fire damage
head enchant does fire dmg
which procs the ring
your head is fire
decent-ish, but not really worth it
ohhh that one!!! ty
if you never touch acro, you dont know the ease of acro, therefor you dont have the need for acro
yea lol
ya thats me
cuz i play sub and it uses acro
it also helps that acro is also not really that much of a big thing for assa
or in aoe makes stuff more akward cus IC/Splatter are not affected by it
meanwhile outlaw with no acro is unplayable
what is unplayable?
outlaw without acro

Incoming outlaw is unplayable spec cause brrrr
Nice they hot fixed the issue pretty quickly
Ha
took some time for someone to react to it 
sudden demise in open world content is actually just OP
The immature people are not active atm
was about to get ashes from vendor but.... is this right?
though ashes would sim higher
whats your current gear? 
That’s your trinket 1
signet is good for fights that go on for 5+ minutes
grieftorch is grieftorch, its op, everyone loves it
anvil?
prob gonna grab grieftorch since i do a lot of m+
whats your current on use tho
puzzle and cct
ew puzzle
naaah you need one on use for assa
and that should be ashes
just always paired with your 2 min burst
but manic :/
it just doesnt sim as high because you already have an on use
what did you grab with your 1st thingy?
crit/mast dagger was what was simmin higher
1 mean seeing as cct is your other trinket, just go for grieftorch and grab ashes next week
cause you wont really be getting a good statstick
and in theorie you could get ashes from this weeks raid
but next week i will have 2 on use
Ashes and grief for st
Ashes and boon for aoe
Use ashes with your cds
The other on use out of cds

ashes and grief is good for m+ too tho
so dont think about it as an ST only trinket
hmmm boon for aoe, but since manic is op for m+... i would run boon on other slot or ashes?
Yeah ashes everywhere, it’s like using 2 potions of ultimate power with every death mark
It’s too strong
the other slot is gonna be grief or boon (im probably sticking to grief no matter what)
If you’re running with pugs use grief
Solid group / know dungeon? Hit up boon
E z
but boon will do pretty much 0 for you regarding boss dmg
but ye what mr onlyfans said
Makes your overall look good
Boon is like my 4th overall
yeah...grief looks really op on m+
i mean grief is just really nice in many dungeons this season
Super useful for bosses where things need to die (Trogg boss in Ulda, last boss brackenhide)
Mr? 
brh totem? GRIEFTORCH, av shield crystal thingy? GRIEFTORCH, ulda totem? GRIEFTORCH, anything extra spawns that you dislike? GRIEFTORCH
Someone else will do it get that last little dps out
is your pronouns a running guy farting towards someones tears? 
Yes
If you can’t understand that means Nut then go, you get ZERO action and it’s showing

Hop off wow go outside
did you just assume im playing inside? 
gave my best to sound as smart as possible
From your previous comments, you’re not playing inside anything
no dirty thoughts here

10/10 interpretation tbh
It’s not even tears tho
need to decide if my alt will be a war or ret, help me decide it :3
Ret
i love war mobility compared to ret slow ass
but ret has so much more utility..
Ret is no longer wheel chair dog
Cap
Cleanse, bop, sac, LoH, brez
thats true, been too busy bouldering that i forgot people exist
Just too good
Rocks > females

rocks dont leave me 
we go wafting for m+ too?
Yeppers
Wafting everywhere. The dps dif isn’t worth dumping gold swapping or having multiple daggers
also ret is easy afaik, so perfect as an alt
just hop on it and chill
outdps everyone
war have passive move speed, 2 charges and a leap, the leap alone with the move speed talent make it better than 2 charges of steed

You get steed / blessing of freedom speed
meh
The slow class is dk
charge op
u guys crafting ring/bracers or waist/bracers?
skip some mechanics, its like a worse shadowstep
ret gets invited into a key 10 minutes before a warrior, so its faster
ring bracers for me
didnt get any good rings
dps invites is so doomed this season that i just run my keys lmao
not to mention historically war always had more ups than ret, if ret is dogshit you are doomed, will need to tank or heal, while war have 2 dps specs
on whispyrs bis list its eranog/diurna rings. on simulationcraft its titanic signet/eranog
if fury is meh ( like this season ) arms is smashing
any good sin content creator/ streamer i can watch? 🙂
There’s really no bis list, sim your character but i would choose whispers
Dinurna ring biiig shield
That = more hp
More hp = more silken uptime
= more dps
seems legit

Checks out
i had a ret paladin dying 2x on the neltharus chain boss last run
didnt use a single deffensive
not even bubble
just nothing
the 500 iq play is to try to proc ret aura without dying
They were just being considerate of the grief torch users
thats what the holy paladin is for
gotta press aura mastery on something useful
I like to bop tanks sometimes to get extra greiftorch casts
what is that ring? O.o
illidan ring
ah from that raid
I'm suprised the eranog ring isn't better then the signet of titanic insight
Oh i was referring to the pinned message about best in slot
excuse me, this isnt a holy pala
yeah weird
it's like adding 20k dps via an external helps
oh
Tru, go war
Pink sucks
LMAO
I wish I was joking
I did that first pull in uldaman
and stood in the big trogg swirlie and died

i had a ret pala in a key today, who died 3 times using boon. After that he said "ye maybe macroing wings and boon together isnt the play" 

i did that but on sub
in our defense
LOOL
I forgot that was even a mechanic
because I stopped running uldaman after getting my portal
because fuck that dungeon
gave me kings rest vibes
never a good week to do it
tyran week? the bosses suck dick
fort week? the trash sucks dick
uldaman is fucked yea
like there's no winning
But yeah @foggy juniper ret had way more bad days than war
last week was fine imo
Not to mention the 2 specs
any 5 boss dungeon is fucked it feels
well only did a 10
If ret is on a bad state gg
yeah if ret is bad it's absolutely dogshit
there's no in between where you go "oh it's decent the utility makes up for it"
At least on war you can bounce between arms and fury
wasnt the guy asking for an alt rn
Yeah
Is like the risk of playing sp
cause you can also tank keys for a good change of pace and prot warrior is looking like it'll be sick in tww
If sp is bad you better heal
or feral
man if they dont change DH sigils
tanking gonna be so stagnant
Tru
you either heal/tank/acquire brain damage
I think they just nerfed sigil durations
which does close to nothing

oh no 2 less seconds
anyway
they nerfed the cdr too i think
but still
2 charges of chains/silence/misery is crazy
and darkness
Hvd was ever bad?
only thing they’re missing is a brez
Havoc has been bad yeah but you still bring it
so you always took them because wizards are always broken
vengeance last 2 seasons since their rework has been disgusting though
probably moreso than blood in shadowlands at this point
blood dk in SL was ALMOST as broken as bdk in legion
BDKs could solo entire dungeons in legion
they were literally unkillable
BDKs soloed entire dungeons in bfa and sl too just took longer
Maybe not bfa actually, twilight dev on a blood was unethical
up until corruption bdk was dogshit
you'd only ever really want one for sanguine weeks
prot warrior was just better
But it was so much fun
because outlaw was broken
triple outlaw keys
never forget the prot warrior/hpal/2 outlaw rogues/either ww monk or fire mage
Sadly war has 0 utility @foggy juniper but to be a good ret you need to pay attention to other shit too
If you want to just dps, go war
outlaw was actually fun in bfa tho
A ret that don't use his kit is just useless
bro rip rally
I can't believe they gutted it to that level
it's actually fucking useless now
they need to give warriors bloodlust
it fits thematically
and prot tanks need something utility wise tbh
instructions unclear: we're bringing back cleave for arms aoe in tww instead
they just need to implement the group wide spell reflect leggo from SL
bam utility
my groups tank rolled off prot warrior this xpac bc it was hard to justify bringing it
so they either need to buff the shit out of its damage
or give it utility
weird that the tank with the 2nd most utility also had the most damage
like all expac
which one was that
vdh
vdh has the most utility now right
cleanse, freedom, bop, sac, loh, wogs actually heal, spellward, brez
I feel like bear only really came into force during s2 with how strong its self healing and damage was
but prot pala also has the risk of just getting deleted randomly
so it's kinda balanced lol
Otherwise it’s been prot/vdh as long
bro bear druids down cataclysmically
bear has a lot of utility too but like no reason at all to bring one over a paladin
Down?
mate
you act as if 99% of warrior players are not fury only meatheads that will go crazy when they are "forced" to play arms
its like as if you tell outlaw zoomers that they "need" to play sub/assa and they say the word APM on every 2nd sentence 
they probably updated the interface so its giga scuffed again
the guild im bumming raid clears off rn actually has 2 arms warriors its crazy
ye cus arms is stronk rn
and fury is kinda dodo
aka warriors cry that blizz hates warrior
fury just got buffed, should help a bit

Bear’s ursoc and stampede are both niche but so damn good
fury's still not great
fuck fury, let arms be better for once
And an aoe stop is always good
Yeah but we just do heroic so spec performance doesnt matter as much
fury is the play in 90% of the tiers

and everytime arms is better they go balistic
Well, idk 99% of warriors kek, but the option is there
As ret you are fucked
🤷🏻♂️
Ret is great
but again this is a guy asking for an alt
someone decided hpal needed 35 binds ig
he can just play his main if ret is fucked lol
Great utility, simple, and fun
holy having 3x the cds then ret has total buttons
Not discussing that
the utility buttons make you feel like you're in the third grade instead of preschool
the real preschool spec is destro warlock
their spellbook doesn't even get halfway down the 2nd column on the first page
sorry oxi the utility buttons dont glow on my screen so how do i know when to press them
on cd friend
What am I missing
oh true
Holy pal is that bad? Did some 12-13s with a play heal and was pretty rough
warlock is a funny class to me bc ive never played with a pug warlock that was good
it's just super convoluted rn
there's SO many buttons its wild
If you just dps and fury is bad, there is arms, if ret is bad, time to swap classes

i rolled warlock for a few tiers in SL to see if it was hard to play or something and it was not, so i still dont know why warlock players suck
But still decent on high level or just meaningless effort?
Oh true but any full hybrid has that issue. Spriest has that issue too
Same with DH
I think on a high level it's great, and some people seem to love that they have a button for almost every situation
destro lock
people say "lmao bm easy spec"
meanwhile destro exists
Spriest you are Uber fucked, specially since I don't think blizzard figured it out what they want to do to sp
It's either Uber broken or unplayable
I haven't touched hpal since s1 of shadowlands
yeah and then they dont even press havoc
and it keeps getting reworked over and over and over again
Prob got bad luck on my pugs, shamans/druids make the key way comfier imo, had a few runs with disc priest too, felt ok
can someone tell me the best way to deal fire dmg for Diurnas ring?
Yeah lol, they just don't know what to do
helm enchant
helm enchant
thats nuf?! ez af tyvm
Grieftorch, helm enchant, depressing neck, shadow flame patch (if you play sub/law)
what's the depressing neck?
The 463 Kazzak neck
Blazefury medallion
Was only available during the wow anniversary event, random drop
we are not outlaws mate
Yeah we’ll have to see what alt to post for TWW. Part of me likes the “switch to any dps spec” of like mage/warlock but another part wants to be able to tank or heal
Sims 5k worse than bis
Whispyr simmed all the fun stuff
Go to war, you can tank and dps on a comfy position

Early logs are looking very middle of the pack. Which is fuckin perfect
Cruel Dreamcarver - which buff r we goin in general? mecha?
!dagger
beast, demon or mecha
ty
mecha is technically not a "cheat death"
you gain hp back when you fall below a certain %
yaya i see
Dragonkin is amazing since it’s actually 10% speed in m+ and raids
Double on use is weird and it prefers boon to ashes.
still weird a ashes 528 losing to a 486 pipe. will buy the neltharion trinket then
Honestly, it's been like 3-4 months since i did that, i don't remember if i tried using a death event or not.
I might have, and there was an issue with the timings, but can't recall.
If you feel like trying go ahead, should be a simple change to test.
But also "if it ain't broke" etc. hah
I guess if it WOULD work, it would help cases where dummy is still alive.
Hello, is it ok to bind dance/kingsbane?
perfectly fine
Ashes is 100% what I would and did buy. But that’s up to you for sure
Dont we lose some dps by not using dance at the later part of our kingsbane ?
no you use at the start to snapshot the dmg
yea im not really raiding anymore only doing m+ having ashes for bosses or boom in a pull and ashes + kb on other would be nice too
Boon is horrid to play IMO. Ashes+ stat stick or ashes+ torch for keys is the play for me for sure
i dont mind boon play got used to it
rogue can cloak if needed and SS to a safer place if needed too
mine is doing like 35-45M dmg in a key
god I love sin but fight damage depending so hard on timings is getting sad
boss dying just before a DM hurts man
I find it the most relaxing rogue spec to play
What are peeps buying with their bullions this week
I'm torn between trinekt options
I’m gonna get ashes since I got passed on heroic ashes 😦
I love the playstyle, just sometimes annoying a 4:20 length fight you do twice as much dps as a 3:50
I'm getting the stealy cloak
I considered the sark cloak but it breaks stealth still and I hate using it in m+/prog
is that the stealy one
absolutely gutting it breaks stealth
!stealthbreak
Stealth can break from:
- Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
- Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
- Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
- Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
- Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)
Do you still use Ashes after around 3 seconds into KB?
doesn't matter anymore, you can slap it on a macro with DM now
but yeah ideally 2-3s in you pop ashes
to absolutely min-max
@gusty mirage did you see they took Destro out back and kill it?
when
capped shard gen on AoE

its been 2 years
they can get over s3/s4 of SL
stop nerfing the poor spec
it's already dead
yeah it was only turbo broken in keys
now its not
legit nerfing their mass AoE by like 60% XDDDDDDDD
Where?
it was supposed to get capped back in SL but the talent never got that treatment going into DF
but it now seems like they activated that previous nerf again
Rip
Nah he meant where do u think he asked bozo
im gonna banana you
Also RIP destro
It’s deserved it’s okay
he tagged me
and I asked
what now bitch
Swear to god I’m gonna post things that’ll make moroes blush
if i craft a dagger, what stats? crit/mast?
been spending bullion on outlaw stuff 😦
continue playing outlaw then
grieftorch/eranog ring
well sorta, grieftorch is multi
i bought grief/sark cape
if youre swapping to sin after the buffs
youre making a mistake
outlaw is still better
assuming you wanna play the stronger spec
i always enjoyed assasination more
group didnt lemme go ass till buffs
because their dumbasses.
you need a new group
nah, they my homies
^
yea i cant get those
Is Sin Rogue back?
So do I but that is because I am bad. What seems to be the go-to build for M+?
Arterial typically for <10
Imo
What do people go for 10+?
Above 10? IG the cleave build from last season is not ideal?
hybrid?
Hybrid or cleave since you can benefit from the full KB, though I believe arterial is still great
This is just from what I’ve heard, I like arterial for the aoe shiv
The issue I have is, I dislike managing tempest with envenom buff
!dagger
bossdam on gnarlroot

not feeling like shit anymore
with PI and decent baseline
still PI spec
I'm praying raid tonight drops daggers and trinkets. The pirate life isn't for me
surely they listen to us in tww.... oh wait
I wish CT did dmg on hit so we could ignore envenom
I think your devoker is missing hands
when i make a raid
i make sure to invite everyone 30ilvls below me
so i can feed my own ego
wanna raid for me tmrw?
not really no
oof
I'll just log on and do my elemental storms like a good lil casual
i looked at my vault
so I can finish this stupid fucking meta achievement
then i log'd off again
omg
twins
I did that on my pally
rolled eggnog ring in the heroic slot
unfort
busy playing Lost ark
playing with 1 embellishment cuz i dont have 2nd spark yet 
yes?
Quick question 🙂
What would be best for me to buy with bullion this week?
2nd trinket (currently have ashes) / a good dagger (I have random ones) / A ring (I have random ones)
true! forgot about that !! thanks
plan is trinkets > eggnog ring > random stuff















