assassination

[alpine juniper]

I also haven't played rogue for about 7 weeks, I am ABSOLUTELY trash at Combat, but ya the lack of ondemand aoe can be felt. While Ele isn't nearly as on demand as SV it's not as bad either

[royal lantern]

can test feinster

oh wait, can allready press feint rn if you want

[gusty mirage]

yeah press feint and just add a multiplier to your dps

ez

[dark token]

Ele sham is in much better spot than sin or even sub

[gusty mirage]

I think sub slaps in keys

[dark token]

It's ok in keys

[gusty mirage]

granted I only ever really did 24s and 25s

wish black powder did damage though

[dark token]

Your DPS is low compared to top specs

[gusty mirage]

unfort

[dark token]

But you can live

Outlaw will do 10-20% more dmg

If played well

[gusty mirage]

pressing black powder doesn't even feel good

sadly

you could have a pack of 8000 and it still feels worse than pressing eviscerate

[clever sapphire]

pressing rupture is the best feeling after sectec as sub rogue

well in aoe

[midnight mist]

only?

[fleet coral]

pirates... maybe they'll fix sin

[gusty mirage]

well yeah

not everyone is you

[storm forum]

Friends my guild has gotten a few p3 pulls on fyrakk, our best start at p3 was at 42ish% and best overall pull was 23%. We have 1 more scheduled raid. How doomed are we?

[gusty mirage]

10-20% more damage cuz pirate

and then the zac bonus dam

of 30% more

so 40-50% more

[gusty mirage]

if you clean up p1 and p2

it can die any p3 pull

legit boss just falls over now in p3

when are you guys lusting

[drifting cloud]

ive seen people kill it from 15% best try

[storm forum]

P3 after first knock back/after first seed drops

[gusty mirage]

ye so 42% going into p3 and you're lusting p3

[drifting cloud]

just how p3 works out, everyone gets cds back and theres nothing new that waasnt there at 35%

[gusty mirage]

you're straight chilling

[cerulean nest]

finally got fyrak mount on last raid night

[midnight mist]

i think any random outlaw would do at least 20% more than sub in keys idk

[fleet coral]

just for wondering about which tier you think assa might be at season 4 ?

F ?

[midnight mist]

and if you are decent then easy 50% more

[gusty mirage]

only time I've ever lost to an outlaw rogue in a key was darkheart

which is ass for sub anyway

[midnight mist]

[gusty mirage]

I am simply ASSEMBLED UNIQUELY

[spice surge]

Brother

[gusty mirage]

if you're seeing sub 35-38% pushes into p3 @storm forum you're seeing people who lust start of p2

[midnight mist]

yes brother

[spice surge]

Aint no way youre doing double the damage of DHs

[gusty mirage]

zac plays with a fury warrior

and double outlaw rogue

he can't be trusted

[midnight mist]

wdym dh

[spice surge]

Idk 50% is such an exaggeration

[midnight mist]

is it

[spice surge]

Are you doing 50% more damage than any other player youre playing with

[gusty mirage]

maybe the tank

[midnight mist]

i started running with a caster comp im getting humbled

sometime losing to the spriest

im very ashamed

[gusty mirage]

remember when spriest cried all tier

[midnight mist]

but what can you do

[gusty mirage]

about how bad they were

then 1 tuning patch and they're godlike again

[midnight mist]

ye

[gusty mirage]

weird how that worked out

[midnight mist]

depends eleem but

if it aint a master blaster with buffs ye

outlaw is very good rn

very too good

[spice surge]

I still aint buying 50%

[storm forum]

I'm actually so glad I swapped off priest for this tier. Shadow and disc both had awful feeling tier sets.

[gusty mirage]

I don't see it as too good tbh

I think it's fine where its at

ye it does nutty damage, but like

so what

so does DH

and don't get me started on the wizards

[spice surge]

Like i'd do more damage than our mage pretty much every key, if outlaw did 50% more damage than mages why would anybody play mages

[gusty mirage]

I'm glad you returned home to us

[storm forum]

I'm leaving again

[gusty mirage]

I don't blame you

[storm forum]

I'm burnt out as hell

And don't wanna play s4

[gusty mirage]

you don't want to experience vault of the incarnates AWAKENED?

[storm forum]

I would rather eat glass

[gusty mirage]

(we're finishing people's mounts and then afking until war within)

[midnight mist]

50% is this only right

its not double

[midnight mist]

good question bro

i asked myself that a lot

but then it also heavely depends on comp

when you go monk war comp

[gusty mirage]

I mean 50% more than sub is 1.5 more

[midnight mist]

vrey different than dh pi mage

[gusty mirage]

so if the sub rogue did 300k

[vestal wren]

why do you post the german flag

[gusty mirage]

you're telling me a "decent outlaw" would do 450k?

[midnight mist]

im reformed, im german now

[midnight mist]

ye

no

ok sure

I would

mb

[gusty mirage]

idk many people doing 450k overall in keys

tbh

[vestal wren]

i think there are only a hand full of people that make subtlety work in keys

so its very hard to have a fair comparison

[gusty mirage]

I think the glaring problem with the comparison is very few people tried

even stealthi gave up

@earnest remnant YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-chosen-one-you-were-the-chosen-one-gif-7521423

[vestal wren]

kush, stealthi, eleem, raz, prophet

wouldn't say nobody tried

subtlety isn't bad, outlaw is just better overall

and easier to execute

[earnest remnant]

eh

outlaw is harder than DB sub is

its just outlaw is 100x better for the dungeons than sub is

[midnight mist]

100x

@gusty mirage @spice surge reading this ?

[earnest remnant]

you can play sub up to like 3800-3900 but you need the right comp for it

[midnight mist]

i only said 1.5x

[gusty mirage]

he's a raccoon

and a lawyer

both are notoriously bad at math

[earnest remnant]

i actually got a A+ in math

[gusty mirage]

I rest my case

[earnest remnant]

buddy

[gusty mirage]

yeah and I also got an A+ in calculus

whats your point

[earnest remnant]

you forget that im asian?

[gusty mirage]

half

[earnest remnant]

other part is danish

also very good at math

so

[gusty mirage]

one part is good at math, the other part speaks a bastard language

[earnest remnant]

L bozo

yeah korean is weird

[gusty mirage]

also

wtf is "level 2 systemic" math

[midnight mist]

also outlaw is 10x tankier rn

very goodge

float like a butterfly is a godsend

[spice spire]

#outlaw

[midnight mist]

disapointed you didnt send the gif

[gusty mirage]

@earnest remnant L bozo only 140th in the world for math

University of Paris is even ranked higher than you bozos

[royal lantern]

ne, ned wirklich, deutsche mögen keine gesetzlosen Schurken

[gusty mirage]

mfer flexing high school level math

danish people man smh

[slim hamlet]

At least it's free

[midnight mist]

gefangniss

[gusty mirage]

high school is free in the US too

nice try though

[midnight mist]

aufviderzin

albeit!

[midnight mist]

wait is that even german bro

that doesnt even look like german

must be fake

[vestal wren]

i am not sure if you make the typos on purpose or not

[quiet oar]

Das stimmt nicht ????

[gusty mirage]

retype it in caps

[slim hamlet]

University bucko

[gusty mirage]

it'll look more german

[royal lantern]

klappe

[midnight mist]

real

[gusty mirage]

free university and you're still dumb as hell

[quiet oar]

It is

[slim hamlet]

Sorry I am not as old as you and haven't been to uni yet

[gusty mirage]

major in math

I hear the danish are good at it

[slim hamlet]

Fuck that

[vestal wren]

[slim hamlet]

Gonna do architecture or electronics

[gusty mirage]

nah the real bait would be telling them to become a lawyer

find me one happy lawyer

I'll wait

[slim hamlet]

You when I kiss you on the forehead

[royal lantern]

wowhead channel has a new message

open it

its fucking classic/SoD parses

ofc

[vestal wren]

i know two who are happy

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/uw-u-kawai-pixel-art-gif-18479272

[vestal wren]

[gusty mirage]

:3

[royal lantern]

:3

[gusty mirage]

no one tell quake about the :3 containment breach

[slim hamlet]

:3

[alpine juniper]

I retired my shaman like 2 months ago when she hit 3k, they got several buffs since then I believe

[scenic nacelle]

that sin gets some love for S4

I want off of this sub train

[gusty mirage]

sin's so fun in keys

shame they overnerfed it

until next expac

when the same shit happens again

[midnight mist]

idk, you kinda need an insanely high level of key to be able to send your cds on trash

your target just dies

its weird

[gusty mirage]

and at that high enough level your survivability fucking sucks

and your ST dam is mid

[vestal wren]

we just going to buff sin even more initially

so it does 2x the damage of sub/outlaw

so it takes 8-10 nerfs to be bad

also padding on the "rogue got so much changes" list

[scenic nacelle]

Remember when sin was amazing? I member

[vestal wren]

you mean in s1 initially, s2 or s3 for the first month?

[gusty mirage]

yeah which time

[scenic nacelle]

The first giga month of S3 lol

[fleet coral]

okay maybe was huge problem on a raid but why aoe gets nerfed too

[clever sapphire]

see this for priest? give me this on sin

(i have no idea what i would like buffed besides bonespike)

[vestal wren]

are there any new balance changes?

[quiet oar]

Bonespike finisher?

[near valley]

Healer changes only

[fleet coral]

nope the old nerf talked about

[spice spire]

Finisher?

[clever sapphire]

its already close to be finished

and by that i mean removed

why you gotta do me like that

[grim jay]

I think you mean removed

[rotund oak]

arent u a lawyer?u got a major in math as well?

[grim jay]

in the first place

because who tf wants to play bonespike

with how sin currently is

[spice surge]

Finish her? I hardly know er!

[spice spire]

Ty

[spice surge]

np

[digital venture]

I think a cool approach to sin in m+ would be to have a talent or even a buff to KB to explode if your target dies before the whole duration

[clever sapphire]

me

[grim jay]

sin is fun/fine in m+

but that would certainly help in lower keys

or if you have those bursty bois in your group

imo its just a balancing thing

[digital venture]

I usually play with a pala and a monk and I struggle a bit with KB duration

but I agree, sin is super fun both in m+ and raids

I tried the other 2 specs and always come back to sin

[grim jay]

yeah it sometimes just doesnt feel good, especially with randoms or people that just pull CDs whenever

[shy pecan]

smh my head

[grim jay]

idk if tying poisons to sudden demise would make it broken tbf

[digital venture]

no idea how it is in high keys. My team is lazy and stop wanting to try for higher keys (we stoped at 21ish)

[clever sapphire]

well from what i gathered over the season is that your kb target wont really live even on a 25

if you send all cooldowns

[high jetty]

Can confirm. I played my rogue with our team last night in a handful of 25/26s and I got 3 full duration KBs all night

Gonna start pulling a whysper and opening with KB

[digital venture]

That's actually what I do in the 20-21s I usually do

[gusty mirage]

yeah its cringe as fuck

[high jetty]

Yeah, we will see how next season goes when we don’t out gear every thing so hard

But really, by the time you set up, you’re looking at a prio target living 24+ seconds, which is pretty unrealistic

[gusty mirage]

you have maybe like 2-3 non-boss mobs a dungeon that'll live the majority of that

and most of the time it's not even the full 24s

lmao

[high jetty]

Even with coordination, like my team was cleaving off off targets to let me try and play the game

Yeah, like I said, I got 3 full KBs all night lol

I also play with a ret and a BM

[gusty mirage]

like I remember week 1, I'd set up everything

get ready to press KB

and the mob is at 40% health

[high jetty]

Gotta put together a team of wheelchair specs

[gusty mirage]

like oh okay

neat

[clever sapphire]

just go in with 3 assa rogues

[high jetty]

Get an aff lock and like

Uhh

[gusty mirage]

a 2nd tank

[digital venture]

3 sins STing dif big adds

[gusty mirage]

but not vdh

because what the fuck is vengeance man

[high jetty]

Feral I guess lol

The triple dot

Triple F tier comp

Let’s get it

Aug aff SiN. Then you can play the game kek

[spice spire]

Telling on you

@main vessel

[gusty mirage]

until you do WCM and the thorns go on not the aug

[high jetty]

God, even if they go on the aug

[clever sapphire]

thats the secret

you dont do wcm

[high jetty]

You ain’t killing that shit

[gusty mirage]

the secret is you bank brezzes and let the person die

cause its faster

[high jetty]

That comp literally couldn’t do more than a 22 lol

Tbh that’s probably right

[clever sapphire]

wcm is my most hated key this season solely because of the tree boss

[high jetty]

I like it on my warrior

I hate it on my lock/rogue

[gusty mirage]

wcm my hated key because for some odd reason you get stuck in combat sometimes

[high jetty]

Shadowstep just works 30% of the time in the courtyard too

“You’re mounted”

Okay?…

[gusty mirage]

I miss week 1 of the season when demo's imps would go on a journey

and pull half the dungeon

and when ret pally's divine toll would just pull an entire side of the manor

[shy pecan]

Did you play it on oxipal as ret before the fixed the bugs?

[clever sapphire]

now its only priests mind controlling afflicted

[gusty mirage]

no oxipal was strictly protection

[shy pecan]

Oh

[gusty mirage]

until my friend wanted to tank again

that's when I started playing ret

oxipal's been prot since wrath of the lich king bud

rip wrath prot pally

[shy pecan]

Random judgments flying through walls

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Wasn’t oxipal holy in 8.3

[gusty mirage]

shut your whore mouth

you didn't even know me in 8.3

[spice spire]

Ur right

I knew the patch after and you mentioned it

[gusty mirage]

just don't check the r.io page

pls

[spice surge]

bit harsh init matey

[gusty mirage]

speaking of 8.3

bring back bfa prot warrior

[shy pecan]

Now I gotta check

[gusty mirage]

and bfa holy pally

kthxbye

[spice spire]

He’s just pent up

I’ve not been around for him to yell at as much

[gusty mirage]

@shy pecan

there you go

[shy pecan]

ty

[gusty mirage]

@marble hemlock fix your website

why does my prot warrior have 1850 healer io

[woeful meteor]

the name is gone

what stats do I need now that I dont sim anymore

[gusty mirage]

look at that gear

CHAD

[clever sapphire]

all of them

[gusty mirage]

rip essences man

absolute banger borrowed power

[spice spire]

Delete this nephew

[gusty mirage]

vers until you get 200%

so that you're invincible

[clever sapphire]

is that how you math?

i dont do the math much

[shy pecan]

Fixed

[gusty mirage]

vers is two numbers

damage/healing amp and DR

the DR is half of the first number

so if you have 200% more damage/healing

you'll have 100% DR

[shy pecan]

What’s DR?

[gusty mirage]

which makes you superman

[shy pecan]

🙂

[gusty mirage]

Deez rNuts

[clever sapphire]

200% more dmg is still 0, but atleast i can live

[shy pecan]

Oh

[clever sapphire]

if i die next season with full vers gear im blaming you oxi

actually nvm

im blaming the healer

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-por-que-no-gif-23322568

[clever sapphire]

is that dora

[gusty mirage]

that's the taco commercial girl

[clever sapphire]

so dora

[woeful meteor]

ty

[gusty mirage]

I forget the brand

[marble hemlock]

idk

[gusty mirage]

now that you're here

@spice spire is bullying me

beat him up for me

[main vessel]

[spice spire]

?

[gusty mirage]

not the kinda spray I want from you if you know what I mean

wait what

[main vessel]

[gusty mirage]

haha jk.... unless....?

[shy pecan]

[spice spire]

Y r u down cataclysmic king

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-racoon-tiktok-pedropedropedro-racoonpedro-gif-3215326814692239405

[gusty mirage]

[shy pecan]

[gusty mirage]

I can't wait to not invite you to the wedding btw

[keen spruce]

[clever sapphire]

when in doubt, pedro it out

[gusty mirage]

and I'll say "she didn't want a big wedding"

[shy pecan]

Wow

[spice spire]

Even though it was Val’s call. I deserve it

[gusty mirage]

teehee

[gusty mirage]

wow what

[shy pecan]

Shit game

[gusty mirage]

true

we should all play poe

the superior self hate inducing game

[shy pecan]

Can actually talk stats there

[gusty mirage]

you think if I tag realz he'll tell Ion to give me my legendary on my pally

SURELY WEEK 11 IS THE WEEK

[shy pecan]

Surely

[clever sapphire]

just save your legendary loot luck for next season

[gusty mirage]

I'm not playing next season

[clever sapphire]

thats fair

[shy pecan]

When we hanging out this summer?

[gusty mirage]

oh you're flying out here?

[spice spire]

I am for a couple of months

[shy pecan]

Might be for a weekend

[woeful meteor]

you decided to come back for fated awakened

[spice spire]

Not perma

Have to watch a parent post surgery for two months straight

Can literally not leave the house. So wow ig

[outer cairn]

In case anyone missed it, it's @keen spruce birthday. He's like 40 or something now

🙂

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

happy birthmas shmeepy baby

[gray hazel]

What are you guys going to use your dinars on?

[outer cairn]

I was put up to this by your besty so blame him

[spice spire]

Some bitches

Probably trinkets fwiw

[past forum]

Gonna take your mom to a fancy dinar

[outer cairn]

I'll be deployed so I won't be playing. Thank heavens I can skip this season

[spice spire]

Bless up

But be safe mister bag

[past forum]

Stay safe big dawg

[outer cairn]

always

if i'm shooting, shit has gone really bad

like ww3 bad

[woeful meteor]

2 months for wow and it's the worst part of the expac

[spice spire]

Amen brother

[gusty mirage]

was there a good part of the expac?

[royal lantern]

yes

[spice spire]

Yeah when I was running keys with oxipal

[royal lantern]

you are just a depressed hater oxi

[shy pecan]

The friends we made along the way

[spice spire]

[woeful meteor]

this patch cause new guild good

[gusty mirage]

ok which patch

[gusty mirage]

you deserve the best guilds

cause you're the best

[woeful meteor]

also amirdrassil is pretty good and m+ somehow fun

[gusty mirage]

ok you're no longer the best

you ruined it

[woeful meteor]

the m+ or the amirdrassil part?

or both

[gusty mirage]

yes

[shy pecan]

RIP in pepperinos

[gusty mirage]

@royal lantern I didn’t know you were in London

[shy pecan]

LOL

I kinda miss the Tryan fox looking sideways pfp

[royal lantern]

doing my part

[clever sapphire]

tryan is a dragon now

fox tryan only lives in our memories

[gusty mirage]

he'll always be a fox in my heart

[shy pecan]

Same

[royal lantern]

cant find the pic anymore

tree reworks

rip sub

nothing for you

[clever sapphire]

max just said "massive pulls"

so rip outlaw

[spice surge]

No rogue trees

[spice spire]

Classic

[royal lantern]

but hey

[midnight mist]

[royal lantern]

oracle looks good now

like

bruh thats really good

[clever sapphire]

the shadow/disc one is legit pure dps

looks kinda cool

[royal lantern]

its really tame tbh

but healer+dps combinations kinda need to be that

[clever sapphire]

dunno, i read void portal, void bolt instead of mind blast and expanding void portal and i was like "aight sounds interesting"

[royal lantern]

void heart iss the strong part

bottom left

forget everything else

ramp atoments->entropic rift into big healing

[clever sapphire]

nah, gimme big portal and cool bolts

i take cool animations over shitty dmg increase

[slim hamlet]

Next week for sure

right guys?

[clever sapphire]

keep up the cope

[drifting light]

Deathstalker when

[winged widget]

The War Within Mythic+ Season 1 Dungeon Rotation - Shadowlands Dungeons and Siege of Boralus

oh no

the maze is back

easy dungeon though

necrotic wake

[scarlet orbit]

im pretty sure necrotic wake will get a change like neltarus did now they dont seem to like dungeons anymore which clear themself

[royal lantern]

siege will surely have the pathing bugs for pets fixed

right

[clever sapphire]

ye after a few weeks into the season

[thorn fjord]

[clever sapphire]

imma need another specc for rogue, so i can have 4 different rogue specs on my login screen

[shy pecan]

NW, Siege, and Mists? Ew.

[balmy condor]

Huge

Love pancakes

[clever sapphire]

no pancake as profile pic

disappointed

[spice spire]

!ban @hoary haven why

[balmy condor]

My pancakes

[ember mural]

But pancakes

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

I’m a hater

Sorry

[gaunt sigil]

Still no assa hero talent previews

[royal lantern]

that one is kinda nice

maybe makes me actually play an alt if i can drop decent gear for them on my Rogue

[shy pecan]

That vulpera shaman

[clever sapphire]

i can finally gear my 2nd and 3rd rogue whilst playing my main rogue

letsgoooo

[past forum]

alpha has been out for an hour surely we have 11.0 sims ready now?

[runic hinge]

We don’t even have talents

[clever sapphire]

where bis gear

[past forum]

whats bis gear for delves?

[royal lantern]

sounds like a whisp excuse

[runic hinge]

Shit I can’t wait for delves

[clever sapphire]

huge i can turn spiders into crabs

i dont even have spiderphobia

i jsut find crabs cooler

finally

[royal lantern]

🦀

[gilded oasis]

[runic hinge]

Tbh I might be more afraid of crabs

[clever sapphire]

wooooo halondrus, woooooo

did i scare you

[runic hinge]

[clever sapphire]

im gonna be a good ghost

[gaunt sigil]

[clever sapphire]

the question is, if i change the spiders to crabs

the spiders wont have poison

or threads

as attacks

right?

cause a crab with those would look weird

[royal lantern]

everytime i see ion talking in a vid like that

yeha, those endless hand motions are familiar

[gilded oasis]

[slim hamlet]

So

Who is paying 3 mil for warbank tabs

[clever sapphire]

i dont think i had 3 mil since i started playing wow

like if i never spent anything

[slim hamlet]

Who is gonna pay for it for me for a kiss on the cheek

[clever sapphire]

maybe 2 mil

[balmy condor]

I would pay 3 mil for warbank tabs if I had alts

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/molorant-rich-ckaz-money-gif-22223824

[gilded oasis]

depends. I use a gbank right now which basically is the same but just my rogue cant get to it

[shy pecan]

Good thing all the other tabs are fairly cheap

[clever sapphire]

time to find a sugarmommy for war within i guess, those wartabs wont pay themselves

[balmy condor]

my guild hasn't even done carries since season 1 idunnoman

[royal lantern]

how many bank tabs will you fill lol

[slim hamlet]

Max said "soon tm" for last hero talents

[slim hamlet]

very very likely not even the free 96

[royal lantern]

ye, cus that was my thought aswell

[slim hamlet]

and I play a lot of alts

[royal lantern]

"oh well, wont even fill 1 tab, w/e"

[balmy condor]

thank you twitch chat very cool

[slim hamlet]

you're welcome sir

https://tenor.com/view/solid-snake-salute-gif-24255323

[clever sapphire]

whispyr why are you not streaming and talking about the assa news

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-meme-really-gif-26853815

[storm forum]

He's editing the YouTube videos for them

[hexed willow]

why does blizzard not want to release any sin hero trees

i dont understand

[slim hamlet]

At least enhance is in the dumps with us

[gilded oasis]

because they hate us clearly

[balmy condor]

editing the videos lowers their views

[slim hamlet]

Factual information

[balmy condor]

not worth it 90% of the time

viewer retention sucks so bad

[slim hamlet]

That's because the best parts of your videos is when u go schizo at the start or end of them

[hexed willow]

better nerf shamans just in case their hero talents are too strong

[slim hamlet]

Wouldn't that mean they should do the same for assa

[hexed willow]

and another 3% nerf to sin just to be sure

[slim hamlet]

[royal lantern]

well, they did buff ret again

for some reason

[hexed willow]

tbf ret wasn't number 1

so they needed it

[balmy condor]

man the alpha hasn't even been hour for more than an hour and I already can't fucking tell if this is just low effort bait

[slim hamlet]

and that is an issue

[balmy condor]

I hate it here

[gilded oasis]

we love you too

[slim hamlet]

Ehm achthuahly the alpha aint online

[royal lantern]

[hexed willow]

is it low effort if we haven't seen any sneak peaks for sin hero talents?

i dont need it to be good!

i just want to be excited 😦

[clever sapphire]

its fine, we are here for you

[balmy condor]

??????????

be excited for when they get released then

what

[slim hamlet]

tbh idk wtf u just wrote

[hexed willow]

if im being an idiot (which is true) pls correct me

[slim hamlet]

damn that message just made me realise how broken online english is

how does "tbh idk wtf u" is something that makes sense

[balmy condor]

why do you need to be excited for a sneak peak of a thing that's in alpha that's not coming out for another 5-6 months

[clever sapphire]

i got jebaited by wowhead

[strange python]

but I want them and I want them now

[clever sapphire]

i clicked on assa cause it said deathstalker

but its empty

its just images

[balmy condor]

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

THATS CAUSE ITS NOT OUT

guys

what

[clever sapphire]

[hexed willow]

because a sneak peak gives you a reason to be excited

[slim hamlet]

yes but wowhead had a tab, he just saying he got jebaited

[balmy condor]

I'm going to hit the fucking filter with you idiots

what is happening

[shy pecan]

[hexed willow]

how can i motivate myself to buy the game if i'm not excited?

[clever sapphire]

ya i got jebaited, who knows what kinda leaks they gonna have

[hexed willow]

think of how many meals i have to skip to afford it

[clever sapphire]

you mean the wartabs

[slim hamlet]

just boost

[clever sapphire]

or the expansion

[balmy condor]

we already saw all the leaks

wowhead dumped all their shit

there's like 15 articles out

[slim hamlet]

apparently a normal clear is gonna cost u 1.2 million gold start of season 4

so gold should be easy

[clever sapphire]

i dont see my guild boosting anything

so no money

sadge

gonna have to farm good logs so i can just join a random boost

[hexed willow]

wowhead lies!

[slim hamlet]

how do u know that isn't the real fatebound tree

[balmy condor]

aight you're actually pissing me off now

[slim hamlet]

[hexed willow]

😦

[clever sapphire]

btw is that all priest abilities?

[balmy condor]

there's like 4 people in here in the last 5 minutes and I can't tell who's dumber than a bag of nails and who's shit posting

cause you guys are incapable of just being normal

[clever sapphire]

im just shitposting

[slim hamlet]

wowowowow

[balmy condor]

the fuck is wrong with you people

[slim hamlet]

How do you know we aren't dumb AND shit posting

[clever sapphire]

well that doesnt take knowledge

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-kramer-seinfeld-gif-6564373007119861775

[clever sapphire]

wow brain go brr when it comes to shitposting

[past bobcat]

Fuck it time to start using a mace in my offhand for stats in pvp.

[bronze pike]

Slowmode

[royal lantern]

normal people dont spend their time in a discord server based on a 20year old mmo

[clever sapphire]

bro being cursed is my job, thats just griefing

[slim hamlet]

garroting only for CP

[shy pecan]

Rude

[balmy condor]

slowmode doesn't fix shitposting it just fixes people building off each other

[hexed willow]

real talk, the different reveals of the hero talents have been interesting about class design for each of the corresponding specs. Are they final? probably not, but the idea and design is interesting direction. We saw the one for outlaw+sub, which had interesting balance of defensive -> offensive CD and so therefore I am very curious to see how the design for fatebound and deathstalker are focused. Looking at other specs, its both enlightning/concerning for direction. So yeah I am a little sad that there hasn't been any clear "reveal" for assassination yet because I do find that kind of stuff interesting to look at

[vestal wren]

i can make a exception to include you in the filter

[clever sapphire]

aight think different

[hexed willow]

sorry it came off as shittalking but i did want to see something

[balmy condor]

the expansion isn't out for half a year

what's the rush

[slim hamlet]

Pretty sure everyone would like to see the hero talents, but also it doesn't matter

[royal lantern]

slowmode just makes me spam reaction emotes

[balmy condor]

why does everything need to be now

and sneak peaked

[clever sapphire]

if they see that people hate the weird ways like oracle and the sub thingy, they will take info from that and not post some halfassed trees for us

[balmy condor]

and teased

[slim hamlet]

Because it builds hype

[gilded oasis]

I barely even look at notes until like a week before release cause everything is gonna change 5 times anyway

[slim hamlet]

Otherwise there probably wouldn't be an open alpha

[bronze pike]

It doesn’t build hype

[spice spire]

Based

[bronze pike]

It builds problems

[slim hamlet]

ofc it does

wtf

[balmy condor]

a pre-alpha-beta-in development-leak-teased-sneak peak holy poggers

[balmy condor]

lmao

[bronze pike]

It’s just pointless

[spice surge]

Early access deez nuts

[royal lantern]

can we get a tierlist for them????

[shy pecan]

Wowowowow

[hexed willow]

there is no rush at all, but it does build excitement for what is to come. my guild has taken a break for the last ~2-3 weeks and so its been very boring

[spice spire]

Alright remby is being normal. I know it’s dire

[balmy condor]

there is no hype built from sneak peaking hero talents pre-alpha

[slim hamlet]

So you guys don't think any of the news today have build any hype

[bronze pike]

I’m sooo hyped to know ret has breath of syndragosa

[slim hamlet]

that's crazy

[bronze pike]

Verrrry teased

Very hyped

[balmy condor]

any hype built from today is moot because we're so far away from the actual expansion

[clever sapphire]

tbh? the only interesting thing for me is the warbound gear for alts

[balmy condor]

the thing about hype is that it dies down over time

if you're hyping now

[slim hamlet]

ofc it's far away from the expansion

[balmy condor]

you're gonna burn yourself out on hype by the time it releases

[slim hamlet]

But ofc ofc ofc showing stuff builds hype

[balmy condor]

and thats how you get a discord full of doomers

[hexed willow]

hype is an infinite resource

[slim hamlet]

that's why u do open alpha

[balmy condor]

no

you do open alpha to test things

[shy pecan]

[hexed willow]

^

[balmy condor]

you do open beta to build hype

open alpha does nothing but turn people off

[bronze pike]

The people who got alpha are testing things rn

[hexed willow]

bug testing is fun

[bronze pike]

They’re not posting to generate hype

[slim hamlet]

yes and get community feedback, which can be shown with hype

[bronze pike]

It’s a lot of “if this works with that”

[clever sapphire]

btw does this talk happen every time a new addon comes out?

with all the pre alpha talk

[bronze pike]

Yes

[balmy condor]

yes

[hexed willow]

look at the community feedback about the oracle tree

[clever sapphire]

crazy

[balmy condor]

it's insane

[hexed willow]

that was helpful

[clever sapphire]

how are you not mental yet whispyr

[balmy condor]

it's the same shit as like presidential elections

[bronze pike]

Oracle feedback was such nonsense

[balmy condor]

where the election is in november of 2024, but you start getting spammed with election shit in august of 2023

[bronze pike]

People just have a hate boner for pi

Didn’t even fucking test it

[balmy condor]

because the whole election is like a year and a half

[bronze pike]

And now

[balmy condor]

and it creates a ton of voter apathy

and then no one votes

[hexed willow]

tbf PI sucks

[bronze pike]

You got this boring ass oracle tree now

[slim hamlet]

The main reason it got changed was because it was bloating as fuck

[balmy condor]

and then everyone wonders why shit passes

[slim hamlet]

not because of PI

[clever sapphire]

okay but it was shit, no need to test that

[royal lantern]

yes

[clever sapphire]

you can tell its bad without testing it

[bronze pike]

Remove the haste from oracle

[slim hamlet]

if it was just PI then they would have stuck with it for sure

[bronze pike]

And pi could have be attributed to the shadowpriest

Parse pi fiending dead forever

[clever sapphire]

well im so hyped i didnt even buy the version for alpha/beta whatever

[bronze pike]

Like blessing of summer

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/invisible-food-no-food-no-food-cooking-cooking-invisible-food-gif-26221963

[clever sapphire]

i will play when it comes out

[bronze pike]

But nope

[clever sapphire]

and not get burned out before the actual release

me smart

[slim hamlet]

Fixing PI with 1/2 hero talents idk about that

[royal lantern]

allright stop

do you EVER played a healer or saw what oracle did, or are you just going "Omg stupid people didnt even try it out"

cus it looks like #2 now

oracle was not functional on multiple levels

healing while playing oracle would have been close to impossible, espacially for disc who is ALSO supposed to ramp all the time and was forced to play their "oracle minigame" every 50seconds now during it, it didnt work in theory allready

like, external hate aside

oracle was pure dogshit in so many ways

[slim hamlet]

First time reading Oracle it sounded kinda cool and then u think about it for a solid 15 seconds

[royal lantern]

"yeha you need to heal now, but also do the oracle game and dont miss it cus then you used a dead ability that did nothing, and giga rng can make our raid do big dmg aswell xd" was the worst tree they made, the feedback was like that for a good reason

cus like

EVERYTHING would have been around oracle

in your healer priest gameplay

[slim hamlet]

Imagine doing that as disc specially

💀

[royal lantern]

^

just ramp bro while also doing oracle bro, its easy bro

[bronze pike]

Alright I see the point

[balmy condor]

one of the things that makes me the most mad is how releases and sneak peaks and shit get earlier and earlier and earlier and earlier every expansion because by the time the expansion releases I've had to digest things and explain and opinionate about everything for like 5-7 months and nothing is new anymore. Dragonflight was wild for that, I remember leveling through the campaign and I was getting deja vu, not because I played the campaign already, but because I kept encountering things that have been leaked and teased and revealed and over-analyzed and it actually straight up ruined the wonder that I normally feel going into an expansion. The only thing that happens when an expac releases now is I feel relief

[bronze pike]

But you can’t tell me that the majority of oracle feed back wasnt just “I hate pi” based and not this whole analysis on healing

No way that was the first thing on peoples mind

[slim hamlet]

It was for sure

[royal lantern]

a big part of it was that ye

[slim hamlet]

100%

I barely saw anything about the bloat besides from actual priests

[runic hinge]

Tier set looks cool

[royal lantern]

70% was "oracle is shit cus i hate Pi"

30% was "oracle is shit cus the gameplay would be horrible if you actually think about it"

[slim hamlet]

But I highly doubt it would've been changed if it was just because "we hate pi" because then they would already have deleted PI

although

[royal lantern]

it was a moment where ultra casuals and higher level players agreed on, just in different ways

[slim hamlet]

considering trickster hasn't been confirmed for a rework it might actually have been because of PI hate

who knows

[balmy condor]

trickster rework 💀

[slim hamlet]

Would rather have 20 more weeks of cooking for our trees than see trickster

[clever sapphire]

its kinda sad that with all the leaks the hype people get from something new is gone by the time it comes out. Like if a new game comes out the best part is exploring everything new that you havent seen and whatnot. But with all the pre-alpha-alpha gameplay you have seen everything there is to seen 1 month before it even releases

[royal lantern]

a big part of that is honestly

nobody plays rogue, the outrage on it is way smaller

[flint tusk]

we're stealthy priests as deathstalker i see xD

[clever sapphire]

so the hype goes from exploring the new zone, to level fast and get gear

[balmy condor]

it's ruined so many indie games as well who feel pressured to announce and pre-release gameplay

[slim hamlet]

I hard disagree I don't lose any hype and all I avoid is lore stuff

[royal lantern]

oracle had a big part the external haters (bless them, fuck externals)

trickster is only rogues saying "this tree is shit wtf?" but thats a small amount of people

[slim hamlet]

If it ruins it for you then honestly just don't look at it imo

I know it's specifically Whispyrs job

but everyone else

[bronze pike]

Trickster remake

[hexed willow]

season 1 rogue set looks awesome

[royal lantern]

eh

im always taking it chill, cus the "week1 rush go go go go go" is the most stupid shit ever

[slim hamlet]

wait

yo

[royal lantern]

remember DF launch with people going crazy over rare enemy drops

[grim jay]

its just another one I wont use

[royal lantern]

that was so degen

[slim hamlet]

that's already shown

[grim jay]

bcs everyone and their mother will run it

[clever sapphire]

you wont catch me doing that

[slim hamlet]

It was brandead amounts of degen

[clever sapphire]

imagine farming pre M+ gear so you can farm pre Raid gear so you can be bis before mythic opens

[balmy condor]

this is such a braindead take

[clever sapphire]

CRAZY

[slim hamlet]

But I kinda loved being "a part" of it by sitting and watching it on streams while doing my own thing

[slim hamlet]

ok

[fallow canopy]

I'm just here patiently waiting for whispyr's BiS List and stat weights

[royal lantern]

but bro the blue items that got all replaced in 1 day of the season start

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/xdd-xdding-cat-cute-cursed-gif-27104766

[clever sapphire]

i mean i also just rushed through the zones, but since then i got into elden ring and i was exploring everything there and reading everything. So i hope its gonna transfer to wow too and i will enjoy the leveling in war within, instead of rushing to 80

[royal lantern]

pro tip

get immersion if you dont have it

makes questtexts and stuff 20x better

[balmy condor]

the notion that you can just close your eyes and ears and dig your head in the sand and just not look at it is so insane to me

like

you just expect people to unplug their router for the next 4 months

or what

[royal lantern]

yes

would help many of us tbh

[balmy condor]

you open a wow discord, they're gonna talk about it

you look up a wowhead page

[slim hamlet]

No

[balmy condor]

it's gonna talk about it

you cannot google anything related to wow

[clever sapphire]

aight gonna try that, thx

[balmy condor]

you can't log into the game

you can't open the launcher

it's gonna be in your face

[slim hamlet]

But you don't need to sit and analyze everything

unless you are you

[balmy condor]

you don't have to

[royal lantern]

its a night and day difference, no more huge blocks of texts

[balmy condor]

everyone else will do it for you

I'm a part of the problem

because of what I do

you don't even need to follow me or what I do

[slim hamlet]

I have never had lore being ruined for me, even tho there are always 200 videos and 20 discussions on different discords a day

[clever sapphire]

ye, quests always felt like im just opening a word document every time

[balmy condor]

you play season 4 with your guild mates and "man deathstalker looks cool with that X mechanic"

and gg

now you're talking about it

it's unavoidable

and now everyone is expecting to know everything months in advance

[slim hamlet]

yea if the mention of it ruins it for you

[balmy condor]

to the point where we got people doing fomo that trees aren't sneak-peaked pre-alpha

I mean

what the fuck

[hexed willow]

😦

[slim hamlet]

I thought u said it was more when u had sat there and analyzed and thought lots about it so there was nothing new when it launched

[hexed willow]

something about ashes of creation hype

its totally real

[slim hamlet]

if the mention of an ability is enough then gg it's impossible

[balmy condor]

star citizen, fallout, the amazon mmo whatever it was called

[hexed willow]

ugh new world

[upper timber]

Deatherstalker still not released or announced?

[hexed willow]

so much potential

[balmy condor]

they all died because they teased all their shit like a year before it was ready

the game was shit

and then hype died

[hexed willow]

tbf new world died becauseit wasnt developed past the first half of the game

[balmy condor]

star citizen looks actually good now

[grim jay]

if it wasnt shit it wouldnt have had any disadvantage tho

[slim hamlet]

I didn't even know fallout or star citizen were a thing until it released

unless it isn't released yet

[hexed willow]

fallout tv show has been great

[slim hamlet]

All I have seen was one video legit earlier today "fallout wasn't actually bad"

or some shit

[balmy condor]

and that's fine, but the games themselves suffered huge setbacks because they revealed too early

[slim hamlet]

Yea

[hexed willow]

i think it was more of overpromising

wow doesnt really pretend its something its not

[slim hamlet]

New games are definitely kinda fuckd for doing it too early, but imo an mmo is not gonna get ruined by it, besides for people that are like us where we sit and look at wowhead stuff, analyze and discuss about it AND also care about it being shown too early

[royal lantern]

wait, its not a dating sim?

[grim jay]

they sometimes think/pretend its balanced better than it is

[slim hamlet]

Like some of my friends are talking about actually trying wow since I forced them to do plunderstorm, and they got absolutely no idea about hero talents

[balmy condor]

people expected things from the trailers and they got alpha months after. a lot of games actually deliver on the stuff they said, they just deliver on it 2 years after they reveal everything and by then its too late

[hexed willow]

yeah overpromising

[balmy condor]

no

[hexed willow]

if they gave a realistic roadmap, i feel like they'd have more long term success?

[royal lantern]

funny enough, 1 friend wants to come back BECAUSE i showed him the warrior hero trees and he wants to try out the fury ones

[balmy condor]

it's not about giving a realisitic roadmap

it's about not fucking announcing stuff

2 years before its ready

[slim hamlet]

And btw I do agree it's too early, but not for the same reason, I am just sad that I need to wait now, like 3 months like with frostpunk 2 beta this week is perfect imo

[slim hamlet]

yea that is you specifically showing him something knowing he would like right

[slim hamlet]

that is not something a new player would find themselves

or well

Maybe they would, but I doubt that would be the norm

New dungeons looking real good

love the theme of this expansion

[novel quail]

where are the sin hero talents?! hehe

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-rave-dance-gif-15389662957248741331

[slim hamlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1229421425128112178/pedro-raccoon-raccoon.gif

Wait why is yours bigger

[vestal wren]

not out yet

[slim hamlet]

wtf

[clever sapphire]

what the pixel is that

how did you get that

[novel quail]

yeah i know, but gimme!

[vestal wren]

also better quality

[clever sapphire]

is that the shiny pedro

[runic hinge]

[slim hamlet]

Nah he is blue

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-racoon-tiktok-pedropedropedro-racoonpedro-gif-3215326814692239405

i also found pedro with reflection

[slim hamlet]

That is premium quality Pedro

[clever sapphire]

still no money for nitro

[slim hamlet]

I got money but u aint catching me paying for that

[clever sapphire]

well ye more like that

im scared guys

[rotund oak]

[clever sapphire]

whispyr been typing for a few minutes now

[rotund oak]

im here for the big whispyr note

(eating BBQ doritos)

[storm forum]

Whispyr about to make a pinned post

[slim hamlet]

even worse

[clever sapphire]

something you dont see often

[grim jay]

nah, he about to end someones career

[old thistle]

get em loafed

[clever sapphire]

pinned post and ending everyones career

[balmy condor]

but every game and every studio feels this huge pressure to always be announcing something or leaking an announcement and releasing things more frequently and more hype. Even irl from my own hobbies, bowling ball companies used to release new balls every quarter alongside like big tournaments and stuff where they would announce. Now they actually release stuff so quickly they can't keep up with their own announcements. They announce a ball, reviewers release their videos a week later, it goes on pre-order 2 weeks before its available. By the time the ball is actually out, a new announcement happens. They announce April 3rd, reviews come out April 10th, April 13th there's a new twitter teased for an announcement on May 7th. You can't even get your hands on the ball until the 20th, realistically the 25th. Everyone just trying to hype so hard everyone becomes numb to it, so you need the new bigger hype to hype your hype that you lost from the hype and I just don't fucking get it man

[rotund oak]

plz no im too young and pretty

[old thistle]

damn boy

[grim jay]

thats on tww launch

like every launch

[old thistle]

destruction 100

[grim jay]

absolute fiesta

[vestal wren]

new copy pasta dropped?

[clever sapphire]

you play wow

thats a lie

if i ever saw one

[slim hamlet]

tbf they might be doing some leaks for more preorders before earnings report in a week

or some adult stuff like that

because usually it isn't THIS early right

[rotund oak]

😅

[clever sapphire]

jk, rogue players are cuties

[slim hamlet]

you can't have all 3

wow, young and pretty

[balmy condor]

just tired

[rotund oak]

im 39,got a job and a gf(yes im bald and im buffed af)

[storm forum]

So you're saying I can be pretty if i quit wow?

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-eepy-cat-eepy-kitten-eepy-gif-8186911474993351997

[clever sapphire]

you can quit being young also as a choice

[slim hamlet]

you can quit being*

[rotund oak]

just lift or run,all u have to do to be fine

[grim jay]

tis you?

[rotund oak]

where are my red high heels and my naughty leather dress

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[storm forum]

I'm too impatient

[clever sapphire]

that works

[royal lantern]

average asian mmo 20000000y old character

[clever sapphire]

i always got told being impatient makes you old

[slim hamlet]

multiply that by 10 at least

[storm forum]

I do, but I am too inconsistent :<

[clever sapphire]

or was it curious?

i dunno anymore

[grim jay]

duh

[clever sapphire]

go bouldering

[storm forum]

I'll try this in a minute

[clever sapphire]

works for me

i cant for the life of me go to the gym

or go on regular runs

or do at home workout

[grim jay]

honestly didnt follow the lore, but I think she is young

[clever sapphire]

but bouldering just always drags me

[slim hamlet]

[grim jay]

but I agree, they all look like that

[rotund oak]

best thing u can do is putting ur alarm clock early in the morning and go out for a walk

u wont even need anything else in ur life

[slim hamlet]

"out"

sure buddy

[rotund oak]

[storm forum]

It's true, I'm allergic to the outside

[shy pecan]

Feel this

[grim jay]

I walk to my car every morning, does that count?

[slim hamlet]

Yes I think so

because that would benefit me

[rotund oak]

i wake up 5:30 every morning,run for about 30-40min,and no it doesnt

do ur 5-6miles

or like 8klm

daily

[clever sapphire]

i dont even turn in my bed so early in the morning

[rotund oak]

walk them

[grim jay]

I'm from germany, we dont do miles

[slim hamlet]

Wait

[rotund oak]

happy to hear that

im E.U as well

[slim hamlet]

nvm

Was about to make a bad joke and I take it all back

First and last time thinking before typing will stop me from making bad jokes in here

[grim jay]

you wouldnt stand out, we are in assassination

[slim hamlet]

feel lucky people

[clever sapphire]

you cant edge me like this

you gotta make the joke now

[slim hamlet]

No

Legit no one