assassination

[balmy condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/DAOFVVFRRFURQmJBQCVBNVUVVVUJQEEiUUBF

[frank hollow]

ty 🙂

[bronze pike]

Waer ptr sims

[balmy condor]

why ptr sims

what purpose

[runic hinge]

I need bis list

[keen spruce]

is 32% mastery too much for PTR?

[bronze pike]

Sneed to no what to spend diners on

[balmy condor]

ptr sim is current sim but numberr up

[bronze pike]

Outlul has ptr sims

[balmy condor]

do they actually

[bronze pike]

Zac> whispyr?

[keen spruce]

they probably just copy pasted the live sim

[bronze pike]

Lol no actual sims, atleast I hope not

[balmy condor]

I was about to say

might be the dumbest shit I've heard

[bronze pike]

490k tho

I want to see beeg numby

[balmy condor]

sim 10 target 40 second

[bronze pike]

Pog ty

[balmy condor]

theorycrafters hate him for this one weird trick to sim higher instantly

[quiet oar]

Refining apl for dps gains < make an short aoe sim for dps gain

[spice surge]

PI & 100% uptime on silken lining

[jaunty crystal]

don't forget 100% corrupting rage uptime

[balmy condor]

just edit a slot with a custom enchant for 1500 agility

won't show up on the item because there's no wowhead tooltip info associated with it

[royal lantern]

ITS FUCKING OVER

[woeful meteor]

@royal lantern gz

[balmy condor]

undetectable

[woeful meteor]

insta learn it

[balmy condor]

POGGGGGGGG

[royal lantern]

and i got the moount

😄

[subtle tundra]

i still dont have the mount wth

[bronze pike]

Grats

[woeful meteor]

didn't you kill like 3 months ago

[subtle tundra]

yea... but i sold it to a loser in the guild

[balmy condor]

I traded my mount away for free I'm basically ghandi AMA

[subtle tundra]

see? i did what you did but im a profit oriented business

[shy pecan]

Gimme

@balmy condor What’s the BIS trinkets, gear setup, hero talents for season 4?

[spice surge]

I got it first kill and our boosting goblin bought it from me

[subtle tundra]

hear me out
SEPSIS
MARK FOR DEATH

💰

[shy pecan]

[runic hinge]

Atyyy congrats

[balmy condor]

I hope you don't get that job

[runic hinge]

Can I have a mount

[balmy condor]

you can buy it from us :)

[runic hinge]

How much

[balmy condor]

idk

would have to ask

[spice surge]

I hate buyers dude

[runic hinge]

My friend said 18 mill

[shy pecan]

But then I can’t make trips to NorCal

[spice surge]

The one we had today dc:ed for almost 5 minute after each kill

[balmy condor]

good, making trips to norcal would be too close to me

I don't like when people get in a 50 mile radius of my location

makes me nervous

like they might show up at my house or some shit

[shy pecan]

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

See u soon

[balmy condor]

I'm sure I've doxxed myself like 35 times somehow

[shy pecan]

Probably

[balmy condor]

I was streaming to my friend in discord one time during tax season and just alt tabbed to a tax document with my SSN on the screen

and they're like

uhhhhhh

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

I'm very good at this

[shy pecan]

obvobv

[balmy condor]

been streaming for like almost 4 years

professional at this point

call me ishowmeat

[shy pecan]

Can you DM me your SSN? kthx

[spice surge]

What about the 3 funny digits on the back of your card

[royal lantern]

professional streamer and youtuber

[balmy condor]

true

[shy pecan]

That's not as fun

[marble hemlock]

unrelated @balmy condor, but what was your first pet's name and what was the street you lived on as a kid?

[vestal wren]

big gz

[shy pecan]

Yeah, @balmy condor what was the make and model of your first car? Just curious

[balmy condor]

jokes on you I don't have a drivers license

[royal lantern]

green and sammy

wait what

[spice surge]

When i was like 10 i made multiple wow accounts (to get 10 day free trials again) and after a while i got tired of answering those questions reasonably, then when that account got hacked i couldnt recover it because i had dumb ass answers for those questions

[royal lantern]

(i never had a pet)

[spice surge]

Like one i remember is me putting simpsons as my favourite colour

[balmy condor]

why pogo ed

have you never seen me rant about walkable cities and urban transportation development

[shy pecan]

Yeah, exactly

[marble hemlock]

thats why you keep all that information in a .txt file on your desktop called "passwords", just like you should keep a note with your credit card pin in your wallet. that way, if you ever forget them, you have the answer on your person/at the click of a button.

[shy pecan]

I live in Seattle, I complain about our public transportation all the time 😬

[spice surge]

Thanks for the help man!

[marble hemlock]

dw, subscribe for more lifehacks

[shy pecan]

And supposedly have one of the better ones in the US

[balmy condor]

I almost got my license

and then I saw a cybertruck on my way to work

and decided I'd rather kms

[marble hemlock]

@spice surge like this one

[spice surge]

Technically correct but aint no way

[marble hemlock]

i dont know why they dont just have a norm for cold cuts/bread so its the exact same size

[balmy condor]

if you do this you don't get the little cheese flaps hanging off the edge though

[marble hemlock]

feels like big cold cuts are in cahoots with the bread makers, so the bread is always slightly bigger, forcing you to use 2 slices of meat instead of 1, so you have to buy/use more

[rotund oak]

big gz my man

[marble hemlock]

if you cut off the crust then the remaining bread is small enough that you can get the flaps on every edge

[balmy condor]

brother I'm trying to eat a sandwich not give a loaf a vasectomy

[rotund oak]

You dont even stream..sub for what 😦

[marble hemlock]

would be more of a circumcision though, no?

[balmy condor]

I mean

would be a scalping

[quiet oar]

Congrats

[jaunty crystal]

grats 🙂

[balmy condor]

@runic hinge 10ish

[runic hinge]

Sheeeeesh. That’s affordable maybe

[dark token]

There's a overlap in the middle

You need to repeat

[runic hinge]

I worked in a deli for a while and I’ll just say that deli meat is good. Just load up. Who cares about overlap

[past forum]

Other cities have comparable downtown public transit but Seattle kinda gaps in having lots of transit outside the city

[shy pecan]

Sure, to some degree

[past forum]

And convenient access to crack dealers on the West Seattle lines

[shy pecan]

Hey now

Not that bad over here

[royal lantern]

guys, its incredible

i can wake up for work tomorrow

and fyrakk is dead

[shy pecan]

Imagine calling that catPOG when it's not a cat >:3

[royal lantern]

im just using the server emotes

aint gonna pay discord

[woeful meteor]

[shy pecan]

:3

[spice spire]

?

[shy pecan]

[spice spire]

Not a bear

[shy pecan]

[ember mural]

[glad hamlet]

oh wait wrong spec

[runic hinge]

Takes one to know one

[spice spire]

Huh

[runic hinge]

I’m calling you a bear

[gilded oasis]

[gusty mirage]

I'm posting this here so assassination rogues can also make fun of tony

[gilded oasis]

[spice spire]

@runic hinge thoughts

[runic hinge]

I’ve been in a committed relationship for 5 years. My time for tagging bitches is over

[gilded oasis]

it could still end, I was in one for 8.5 years once

[runic hinge]

I imagine it could but I think we’re good

[spice surge]

Who knows, maybe in 15 years youll go to a swingers club and tag bitches with your girl

[spice spire]

And yet you tag deeny every day, curious

Also I was also in one for 8.5 years, you’re not special Zar

(I’m sorry tho)

[gilded oasis]

naw dont be, it was bad and needed to end. but dont worry he became a 300% better bf to his next gf (fiancé now 3 years in)

[spice spire]

Is that a salty or supportive comment

[gilded oasis]

salty as hell

[spice spire]

Not instigating, truly curious

Oh

Maybe you taught him some important lessons

Being genuine for once. Not trying to troll

[gilded oasis]

maybe

I should send an invoice

[spice spire]

I won’t get too personal on noting, but it’s an act of love to want better for others, unless he cheated then heck him

[gilded oasis]

not that im aware of but he was with his new gf like 3 days after we ended it and he was still living in my house. I say my house cause he only ever paid like 1/3rd of rent

and I do want better for him glad for him even. but id take some acknowledgement of how bad it was and shit.

but im sure no one in sin channel wants to hear about that

[runic hinge]

If you had a kid the first day they could be post in the outlaw channel rn

[gilded oasis]

I just did 20 hunts back to back

[gilded oasis]

fr fr

[runic hinge]

Bro the hunts are gonna kill me

I’ve heard first one you do each week per character has a better change for the chroma?

[gilded oasis]

I was pretty close I only have like 1 -2 achievements in like 4 of the achievements that weren't already done

[spice spire]

Sucks. Sorry to hear

[runic hinge]

I’m saving it for Saturday and doing 1 hunt on every alt

[spice spire]

Now can I go back to clowning this channel despite not playing in 5 months? 💀

[gilded oasis]

clown away bozo

[runic hinge]

You’re always down to clown

[spice spire]

Need the clussy ur right

[gilded oasis]

wait chroma for what are we talking about different chievos

[runic hinge]

The doggo chromas

[balmy condor]

Only 5?

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-pathetic-principal-skinner-gif-13486077408184960752

[runic hinge]

Yeah. My 20’s were filled with degeneracy

[spice spire]

Bros gatekeeping relationship lengths 💀

[runic hinge]

It’s like tetrochromatic in the onaran plains

[balmy condor]

Damn straight

[gilded oasis]

big gate keeper

[balmy condor]

Imagine not just being with your highschool sweetheart

Lmao

What a bunch of banana bozos

[runic hinge]

I didn’t have a sweetheart in high school because I was a nerd no one liked

Lmfao gottem

[gilded oasis]

same

and still true

gottem

[runic hinge]

Your cats like you

Checkmate

[gilded oasis]

highly debatable

they only like me for the treats and turning on their heating pads

[gusty mirage]

imagine being loved

fucking loser

[spice spire]

I think you’re great buddy

Checkmate bozo

[gilded oasis]

fk

ty

[spice spire]

Yeah I love you, you fucking nerd

[balmy condor]

You’re damn right I am

[spice spire]

Blud is yapping rn

[runic hinge]

That’s still being liked

Also this is the achievement I was talking about https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=16543/tetrachromancer

[gilded oasis]

iM whISpyr Im lOveD lOOk aT mE (cant find the fucking emote I need)

[runic hinge]

[balmy condor]

Bend over and lemme yap into that bussy that shit’ll echo like the Grand Canyon

Bout to go on an spelunking ya feel me

[spice spire]

It’s cute that u think you’d be the clapper and not the clappee

[gilded oasis]

whew Im safe

[spice spire]

Grats

[gilded oasis]

hey thanks

[balmy condor]

I thought we couldn’t collect those anymore

[spice spire]

Kinda a duality of man post back to back

But hey

[runic hinge]

Waaaaah. That’s the only one I need

[gilded oasis]

rip

[runic hinge]

If I don’t drop the last two I need Saturday it’s joever

[gilded oasis]

is it?

[runic hinge]

No. I’ll just try again next week

[gilded oasis]

lmao

[runic hinge]

I’m getting close I just wish I had done any amount of fishing and hadn’t skipped forbidden reach

[gilded oasis]

kinda mad about the gem clusters gonna have to do it again on my JC for the recipes

[runic hinge]

I have deleted the gem clusters they were clogging my bags

[gilded oasis]

bag space shmag shpace

[runic hinge]

My bags are so full rn. I need to vendor everything

[spice spire]

You need some bitches

[runic hinge]

Okay Mr. Single as a Pringle

[gilded oasis]

what flavor

[spice spire]

Bit personal innit

[runic hinge]

Sour cream and onion

[spice spire]

See you in 3.5 years bud (I hope it’s happy and fulfilling)

[runic hinge]

As long as I stay off the liquor it will be

And if it doesn’t work out. I’m leaving the country

[spice spire]

Real

I hope you do well. It’s a great feeling to love and be loved

[runic hinge]

Gayest shit you’ve ever said

[gilded oasis]

[spice spire]

S2g I’ll eat ur shitter like an apple fritter if you sass me again Tony

[runic hinge]

Somehow that is more hetero

[spice spire]

[bronze pike]

Hot

[shy pecan]

Can I sass you?

[spice spire]

[rotund oak]

cat imposter detected

🔪

[bronze pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1101555284285063188.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-wiggle-cat-wiggle-cat-black-gif-25712759

[rotund oak]

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-funnt-cat-black-cat-sleepy-cat-gif-16409614852005252877

[bronze pike]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-cat-small-poop-poopin-gif-26789908

[inland lintel]

Which M+ build is your guys favorite

[dark token]

Arterial shock

[inland lintel]

Could you help me understand kingsbane? I've read the guide 3 times now

Maybe give me some rules of thumb that make all these rquirements easier to comprehend

[dark token]

What key level are you doinh

In low keys mobs won't live kingsbane full duration

So you focus on spreading bleeds over kb

[rotund oak]

Kingsbane optimal use is pressing while u have envenom buff active and ur target shived

it covers everything KB needs in order to ramp faster and do more dmg

[inland lintel]

TY

[inland lintel]

Only 18s at 450 iLvl

[rotund oak]

u r welcome friend

but if u want some more insight

KB ''caps'' at a certain amount of poisons applied,i think its 99 iirc from whispyrs vid guide

envenom buff makes u apply faster poisons and u wanna envenom as well WHILE the envenom buff is active coz tier set procs dmg from it

applying more poisons on the way

[inland lintel]

why is this spec so confusing

[rotund oak]

shiv is just a buff for dmg, u need to ''cover'' KB's entire duration

and also press tea at 6sec or less

to cover last KB ticks

coz those ticks IF they crit

its very big dmg

[subtle tundra]

once you realise how things interact, youll realise its so simple

😉

[rotund oak]

rogue isnt the easiest class to play but practice makes perfect 🙂

[inland lintel]

really?

[royal lantern]

ye

[blazing jewel]

Until you get parried on kb

[clever sapphire]

until you get 0 crits on your kb and do the same dmg as you would ahve done without dm

[rotund oak]

stop being so negative man

😅

[blazing jewel]

Sin is my favorite spec

[rotund oak]

no one said it isnt

[quiet oar]

Hes lying

He told me in dms He loves Outlaw the Most

Yarr harr

[blazing jewel]

[rotund oak]

he loves DHs more

thats the problem

[blazing jewel]

I love hawwk not but not dhs

[rotund oak]

[blazing jewel]

@quiet oar Stop playing outlaw

[spice spire]

You spelled cawwk wrong king

[blazing jewel]

[spice spire]

[quiet oar]

[ember mural]

[rotund oak]

[midnight mist]

[thorn fjord]

Give @blazing jewel a break... He's been dealing with elevated levels of noise and foot traffic around his building for the last week and a half

[rotund oak]

[gusty mirage]

Yo I spoke to the guys down at the no bitches factory and they told me that you killed your internship, congrats man

[spice spire]

God damn

You know Assassination is the spec, not what you have to do with the regulars

[gusty mirage]

It’s out of love

[spice spire]

A video

Nah

[sharp viper]

Preparing for fyrakk progress next week, this Whispy guys seems to know what he's doing

[gaunt sigil]

False

[sharp viper]

maybe just fortunate random key presses then?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-piano-cute-gif-8240085

[royal lantern]

yes

[clever sapphire]

aaaah im so hyped to wipe tonight on fyrakk p1 again for no reason at all

[spice spire]

Gabagool class

Nothing matters

Just crit

(This is a joke for legal reasons)

[spice surge]

Not 100% a joke

[spice surge]

That day is not today

https://tenor.com/view/jupijej-jupijej-emote-dance-silly-gif-26710671

[sharp viper]

maybe i'll go outlaw then

[spice spire]

Oh god

That’s even less mattering

[sharp viper]

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

Came in to raid tuesday night with not 1 but 2 augs... it was a beautiful thing 😢

finished like 40m ahead on boss dmg for the night lol

[steel ridge]

Dw it will always be p1

[gusty mirage]

Then there’s the rare nights where everyone decides to blaze trees and adds in p2

It’s magical

[clever sapphire]

really? how do i get those nights

teach me your secrets

[gusty mirage]

You kill the boss 5 times and it unlocks automatically

[clever sapphire]

ah i see the problem now

im still missing 5 kills

[blazing jewel]

my guild is spawning gnarlroots to parse

[gusty mirage]

Stop slandering pleb’s name

[harsh harbor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[royal lantern]

its mindblowing

like

the guild had 400 or 500 pulls on fyrakk

and it felt like as if nobody really understood p2 blazes and just constantly nuked adds->wipe

and then it suddenly stopped in an instant and never happend again

i dont understand wow players

[thorn fjord]

Sometimes people be drinking/getting high during raid and it effects their performance… it’s what I always assume is going on… that or distractions in the background

We’ve had issues in the past with people getting tanked during raid

Or kids interrupting the raider during raid times etc… a lot of different variables in play

My guild is mostly older dudes tho

It’s really hard getting all 20 players to be dialed in at the same time

One guy had his kid unplugging his pc during pulls because she wanted his attention… just the nature of the beast I guess

[royal lantern]

based child

[pure bridge]

My guild literally will have hundreds of pulls on the last boss of each tier. Absolute tilt fests. We see P3 once and boom, boss dead in like 4 pulls. No more P2 headaches.

[clever sapphire]

ah p1 wipes again

i missed this

[past forum]

its funny how some times a mechanic will never target a player for half the tier and then the first time it targets them we wipe instantly

like the bombs on nymue, someone dropped it directly in melee after months of the tier

[royal lantern]

some mechanics are cursed af in both ways

like

the P1 fyrakk soaks? i had them 3x in all pulls

but every 2nd shadow spawns on me

[runic hinge]

Time to make a new rogue for a better character Id that doesn’t get picked for mechanics

[twin finch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[bronze pike]

do you wanna hear my new hero talent for sin?

[spice spire]

No

[bronze pike]

r u sure?

its a very very very good one

[balmy condor]

I have a mute delivery for one remem... rambo.... remmbo... remmeporridge

idk

anyone know a remeporridge?

[spice spire]

I would like to keep sanity today

[past forum]

mute this server then, blud

[runic hinge]

I’m surprised you have any left

[bronze pike]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-depp-mustache-gif-20474954

no

i know amandahugnkiss

does that help?

[gilded oasis]

he doesnt he is lying

[rotund oak]

i know a person who knows a person

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-knew-it-i-know-i-figured-it-out-i-got-it-understand-gif-20624692

[rotund oak]

[gilded oasis]

I also know people who know other people

[clever sapphire]

you guys know people?

[gilded oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/gangs-all-here-spongebob-lonely-friends-forever-alone-gif-9619934

[thorn fjord]

I only wanna know doggo's

[silver umbra]

one day they decided they no longer want to be in prison

reformed

[spice spire]

You Willow and Kitten

[runic hinge]

Damn, this chat is eepy

[storm forum]

We are god's eepiest soldiers

[gaunt sigil]

It’s cause a massive 12 people play this spec now

[runic hinge]

Crazy the difference in the first two weeks of the patch and then after the nerfs and the chat just dies

People doo be number chasing

[gaunt sigil]

Mhm

[rotund oak]

disgrace

[quiet oar]

I think if they would nerf sin again, this Chat would be active again

[vestal wren]

chat activity is also related to who is regular in the channel

e.g. #outlaw has more active chatters and as a consequence a faster chat even if nothing happens

[quiet oar]

And many people prolly take a break atm

[vestal wren]

rogue is also not a interessting class

it is a bit wild from a game design perspective how poorly the new player experience is on the class

paladin manages to do things right, with the rework also in terms of gameplay

[quiet oar]

Yeah rogue isnt intuitive

And you Do Zero damage, pressing random buttons

[frank hollow]

How will assa perform in m+ Season 4 With new trinkets ? What do you think?

[balmy condor]

Just as good as now

[frank hollow]

So Not so good 🤣

[balmy condor]

It’s doing fine

[frank hollow]

I think it will be better

[balmy condor]

Why

[frank hollow]

Trinkets

[balmy condor]

What about them

[frank hollow]

Dmg out of Burst

More dmg*

[balmy condor]

Elaborate

Assassination right now is entirely burst

[frank hollow]

We will see. Maybe assa/sub will get a Bit buffed. But I think The New Trinkets will help them with Overall dmg

[quiet oar]

Idk, trinkets rn are good

[balmy condor]

What new trinkets

Isn’t it the dragonflight dungeons and the 3 raids

[quiet oar]

Maybe puzzle box

[balmy condor]

But that’s not new

[quiet oar]

No its not

[balmy condor]

We know how all these trinkets work

Boon is gonna be crazy aoe

[frank hollow]

Yep Boon will be good

[balmy condor]

But that’s not really anything assassination

[quiet oar]

Yes

[balmy condor]

And the lack of vers will make it worse comparatively

Puzzle box is good but like, so is any other on use like branch is or ashes is or insert any 2 min trinket that gives stat

Incarnate icon is a good passive trinket but I don’t see how that’s good for assassination specifically either

Idk

Trinkets are trinkets

Everyone can use them

That’s why they aren’t really defining as a meta for specs

If there’s something crazy strong, pretty much everyone will use it

Puzzle box, icon, ashes, signet brand, beacon

It’s never just “oh that’s a really good assassination trinket”

[frank hollow]

Its just that The „new“ trinkets will give more dmg out of Burst. So we will see

[quiet oar]

Irideus Fragment

well thats 3 minds right?

[hearty reef]

Bootleg ashes

[quiet oar]

Ye and it double dippe Mutilate iirc

[balmy condor]

Yeh

Irideus is doomed in single target and not good aoe

[bronze pike]

Everyone has boon

Boon meta

[rotund oak]

Im gonna grief booners and torchers hard

[bronze pike]

Boon pull everything in the start of bracken including bosses and your dps and healer and tank boon

[rotund oak]

unite under a common cause with @earnest remnant

[bronze pike]

Boon on boon booming in the boonies while booning in boon noon at a blooming boon moon

[rotund oak]

Go ele sham and thunderstorm that

[oak tangle]

necro your post, they need to make energy costs scale on level

would alleviate so much of the problems levelling

[vestal wren]

i don't think thats the solution

[royal lantern]

the problem is that energy as a resource is weird under max lvl

[steel ridge]

thats such a weird take

you will run the same trinkets you run now, ashes+statstick

how is more dmg out of burst a good thing? its a burst spec, you want more burst, not less.

wasnt puzzlebox changed to 30 seconds duration? cannot imagine that being valuable for a 16 second burst window on a 3 minute cooldown.

[spice surge]

I would be surprised if any trinket besides icon+ashes (and boon for m+) saw much use as assa

Unless they do big tuning ofc

[flat kindle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[spice spire]

I could see grieftorch or zskarn trinket

I think icon is pre much a lock as trinket #2 tho

[spice surge]

I have done sims for assa but icon without allies was like 1.2% ahead of zskarn 💀

For sub

[rotund oak]

[rotund oak]

rly?

[spice spire]

💀💀

Nice trinket

[rotund oak]

icon autoequip

[spice surge]

But that was with just scaling up current profile to 528, so not 100% accurate ofc, but like, the trinket is busted

If you compare it to the vers stat stick available from brh icon has 45% more secondary stats (without the allies)

[royal lantern]

and didnt they allready nerf it AGAIN?

[vestal wren]

there might be some "magic" (bugs) with scaled up trinkets

[quiet oar]

Icon gives haste vers crit?

Right?

[static glacier]

for dps it was mainly crit

[vestal wren]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=194301/whispering-incarnate-icon

[static glacier]

then the occasional tiny proc of the heal / tank stats

which were haste and vers ye

main value of the trinket is being an overstatted statstick

it gave more than hunger of the pack at the same ilvl

[royal lantern]

mainstat on trinket is alway kinda big

even more so on passive ones

[spice surge]

Crit for dps, haste for healers and vers for tanks

[royal lantern]

• shitton of secondarys

[past forum]

All i know is that bomba would have to be significantly ahead for me to use it again. Had to use it on rogue and bear all season and I’m fricken over it.

[dark token]

No mast?

[rotund oak]

hmm anyone on ptr right now?

i keep dcing on login

[balmy condor]

Ptr isn’t up Im pretty sure

Server update

[rotund oak]

oh so its not me

[balmy condor]

Cause it’s a Friday

[rotund oak]

cool

[balmy condor]

Does it say incompatible?

When you pick a server

[rotund oak]

no when i try to log in the server menu

i just get tossed out

cant see the server menu at all

[balmy condor]

Weird

[rotund oak]

yeah actually 1st time its happening

had to ask

[keen spruce]

zeross is logged in to 10.2.6 somehow

but no one else can get it

[balmy condor]

Hacks

[rotund oak]

ive been trying to log for like 6 hours now got a friend that logged like 2 hours ago

[balmy condor]

They pushed an update like 3 hours ago

[rotund oak]

a druid

and msg'd me to try

he cant log now as well

i wont bother

ill try tommorow

[ebon notch]

@midnight mist

[royal lantern]

what is that loggin queue

just wanna do some worldquests man

[ripe canyon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[midnight mist]

dont ping me in here

[royal lantern]

why not

[runic hinge]

@midnight mist

[blazing jewel]

@ebon notch did you have too much caffeine today or what

[ebon notch]

no

[shy pecan]

You bugging him on his birthday?

[ebon notch]

zac doesnt have a birthday in his apl

[shy pecan]

He does

I mean, how else will we remind him that he'll eventually be too old to play outlaw? 🙂

[woeful meteor]

zac when he turns 30

[vestal wren]

not alowed to play outlaw anymore then

salute for all the fallen heroes

[past forum]

30? i thought like 24 was old to zoomers

[rotund oak]

imagine using age as an excuse

weak

[runic hinge]

Just like Zac’s wrists after 30

[royal lantern]

*after 23

[vestal wren]

it was a meme from jpc i think

[past forum]

Oh yeah, but he also said “with kids” so I think most of us are safe there

[thorn fjord]

I play OL and im 37

Y'all soft

[runic hinge]

No I’m just sane

[arctic hare]

The max age of zoomers is like, 27 lmao

so yes, 30 is old as fuck to us zoomers :p

[royal lantern]

oh god

im a max age zoomer

[arctic hare]

lmaooooo

[versed mica]

Bro why tf did they nerf sin and yet they let sub keep doing crazy damage

I don't understand

[runic hinge]

Where yellow name

[runic hinge]

I blame guy for saying assa was too easy and it was “bonkers this easy ass spec gets to do so much damage”

[royal lantern]

blizzard balancing

they do some stuff early

and then stop

patch started->assa with externals was OP

they nerf->still strong but equal too sub now, but people dont play sub yet so most dont know->they nerf assa again

and now they stopped doing more balance changes cus "enough done"

+NOBODY plays sub, thats a big thing aswell

look at heroic, where iirc sub has still the lowest amount of loged kills, cus holy shit the spec is garbage in gameplay

but its broken in numbers + dust is a ability that needs jesus, so you go mythic and most people gonna play it cus its OP

[runic hinge]

Someone link me heroic 75th percentile chart and number of parses. I’m bored and at work

[somber sparrow]

like this? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/35/#difficulty=4&dataset=75

it says mythic but i chose heroic

[runic hinge]

Mmm maybe screenshot it for me. I just see numbers on mobile

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

I’ll just look when I get home

[thorn fjord]

Its also pretty easy to play for the people actually playing it in mythic id assume

Follow stealthi's CD chart... go brrrrrrr

Hot take but playing dust is better than current sin playstyle outside of CD's

[runic hinge]

Sub is to me

[storm forum]

Sub was fine when I played it, but I just didn't really understand what I was doing

And the desync'd CDs were driving me nuts

And I was missing so many casts of sec tec cause cdr abilities don't make sense to my brain no matter how big I make the WAs for them.

[runic hinge]

I just love backstab and evisce spam so much. /s

Sometimes you press sec tec wooo

I’m being pedantic and you can make most wow specs sound simple by debasing them but idk. I find sub to be more boring. Especially because it doesn’t feel like your cd windows are impactful to your rotation

[dark token]

Your CD windows are not impactful to your rotation

If you fuck up your dance windows as sub, particularly during flag/blades you do zero dps

[runic hinge]

Damn a whole 6 seconds I gotta push strike then evis then strike then sectec hope I don’t fuck that up

Oh shit I had TFD make that a gloomblade

Shits boring af

Your dance window never* changes and flag and blades don’t impact that

[dark token]

Your dance window definitely changes

Based on cp procs, starting cp, whether you have finality rupture up, cold blood cooldown

Complaining about fixed gameplay is weird when assa has entirely scripted CD windows

Compared to sub especially

I like assa more personally I just think it's a weird argument

Sub is much more dynamic in gameplay currently

Assa is chill repeat same stuff

[runic hinge]

I’m being pedantic and debasing the spec I don’t like to play. Please stop arguing with me every time I type in this channel

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/mongy-monke-monge-cute-cleaning-gif-27532745

I enjoy flag it’s a fun button for me… always has been

Hope you guys have a nice weekend

[balmy condor]

work is da poop

no more!

[thorn fjord]

[ember mural]

real

[frank hollow]

Dont you do Videos anymore on YouTube?

[balmy condor]

I do

[frank hollow]

Ok last was 2 m ago. Thought you quit

[runic hinge]

Nothing has happened in 2 months

[storm forum]

When is Realz going to give us a 6% env nerf so whispyr can make a video?

[runic hinge]

I want ct and rupture buffs but tbh I think the spec feels fine (I get Aug and PI in raid)

[shy pecan]

Give non-outlaw rogues buffs. And a cleanse

[frank hollow]

True

[runic hinge]

Most things were covered by the early vids and now until s4 there probably isn’t much to talk about.

[frank hollow]

Maybe someone can help me. I switched from sub to assa and have extreme problems to do aoe dmg. Is the sub gear a big problem for assa ?

And another question . My details always reset if I go to stealth in my rotation on training dummies . Can I fix this? Cause I don’t know my real dps

[runic hinge]

!dynamic

Hmm

!details

[prisma monolith]

To stop details from resetting on vanish, go into the settings and under Overall Data, make sure "Use Dynamic Overall Damage" is checked.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1173432355785027584/details_vanish.png

[runic hinge]

Try that for your second point

[frank hollow]

Thx

[runic hinge]

Your gear won’t be the difference for your damage

[frank hollow]

Ok so my rotation? 😄 My gear isn’t that high… 475 .. as sub I burst 600k on dummies… as assa I do like 350k

[runic hinge]

I can’t tell you what you’re doing wrong because Soviet will just come correct me.

[frank hollow]

Hm

[dark token]

What's wrong with being correct

Id like people to educate me every time I type

[oak relic]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[frank hollow]

Thanks man

[past forum]

Man progging the smolderon weakaura has been the highlight of my wow lifetime

[rotund oak]

arguably the most disgusting thing ive ever witnessed

well there were some other cringe stuff but definitely high on the list

[quaint hull]

you didn’t kill echo of neltharion huh?

[rotund oak]

think echo wasnt that bad

lot of cringe coz walls and space n stuff

[broken ibex]

Echo felt like 2 full nights wasted just getting people to understand the weak aura

[rotund oak]

pretty similar to smold tbh,though it might have taken more to undertand the seeking inferno thingy

😅

stupid btch@ss

[royal lantern]

nothing beats the feeling of having 3-4 days of echo prog, and hearing 1 guy saying "ooooooohhhh, im supposed to press the macro when i get the circle!"

[quiet oar]

Echo was bad

like the worst for any kind of weakaura thing

[clever sapphire]

You mean how half of my guild didnt understand that on fyrakk they press the macro with the orange circle instead of the purple?

[royal lantern]

mate

we did cages without macros

just calling out

less "macro not working!!!!!!" bs from people that cant download a fucking weakaura

[clever sapphire]

Cages?

[royal lantern]

oh

[ebon notch]

Wait what macro

[royal lantern]

did you update it??????

20 people saying YES

during break: "wait there was an update????????"

[ebon notch]

No I mean what did you use a macro for on nelth

Did my brain fall out my head or

[royal lantern]

circle spots?

[ebon notch]

We didn’t use a macro for it

We had a weak aura assign it

Pos 1 was always melee and 2-5 you checked the list then went

[quiet oar]

We too

But some people dont speak

so its sometimes rng

[ebon notch]

My guild used macro on cages for prog, then we dropped it, then we introduced it again lmao

[past forum]

My guild is fairly new to mythic prog, and roster boss unalived us pretty hard after Experiments.

[jaunty kayak]

hey there... how should i sim for myth fyrakk as good as possible? just standard patchwerk 5 mins? :D

[rotund oak]

thats some solid decision making

[ebon notch]

we wanted to do verbal calls

but it just wasnt as consistent

[clever sapphire]

Ye

[dark token]

Nah sim 9 mins

Or 8 mins

[clever sapphire]

Well or that, results gonna be the same tho probably

If looking for gear

[dark token]

Nah it values signet brand much more

And subsequently haste/vers become a higher stat weight

Over my 5 mins sim

[rotund oak]

i wanna see KPB/Daps 1v1 for the top dps

on stream

lots of double cheese peperoni pizza waiting to be eaten

[ebon notch]

im playing other classes now

[rotund oak]

ill sub

[ebon notch]

[woeful meteor]

fotmrogue dead after 1 season again, recruited his own replacements just like last time

[rotund oak]

thats how intelligent ppl roll 😉

[ebon notch]

nooo nothing like that

im just gonna rotate through all melee classes this farm

[blazing jewel]

@keen spruce crit your kb

[rotund oak]

nice we are all f'd now

u summoned the devil

[keen spruce]

i hit a 4.2m with no aug

on fyrakk opener

then we all died about a minute later

[blazing jewel]

[blazing jewel]

shmeeps is our representative

[rotund oak]

we all love shmeeps

ofc ofc

[keen spruce]

[blazing jewel]

[rotund oak]

[runic hinge]

[keen spruce]

we can't get p2 right

😢

[blazing jewel]

P2 might be the hardest phase now tbh

[twilit jacinth]

For assa: is the off hand dps more relevant than for other rogue soecs, because of mutilate

[blazing jewel]

More than sub yea

Outlaw idk

[twilit jacinth]

👍

[balmy condor]

That being said, the word “more” is doing lot of heavy lifting in that question

Cause like yeah it’s more

But it’s only more by measure of the offhand hit of mutilate

And that’s it

[keen spruce]

the same way 2 pennies is more than one penny

[balmy condor]

Wouldn’t even say that

It’s like 1.1 Pennies is more than one penny

[marble hemlock]

its like pooping your pants is more than peeing your pants

[blazing jewel]

Powerful pennies

[keen spruce]

my raid cannot figure out cages

[fresh kelp]

/wa

how do i bring up recommended platers?

[spice surge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[gaunt moat]

We had 5% wipe.
And it was my fault.
I will never recover from this.

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/insult-emotional-damage-gif-24908300

[strange python]

how we looking on ptr guys

[runic hinge]

I look beautiful no matter where I am

[balmy condor]

looking like assassination in season 3

but in season 4

kinda weird how that works

when you have the same tier set and no changes

[runic hinge]

Yes but I might change my mog

[keen spruce]

I went back to my shadowlands mog

I'm a simple man

I'm not gonna play season 4 but if maybe i do

i'm race changing gnome

and going full retirement

[balmy condor]

I hear zoomers on tiktok get cancelled cause they're changing their race

better be careful with that mr duck

[oak sky]

join an rcta server they might have more info!

[balmy condor]

didn't you die

where did you spawn from

[oak sky]

off topic

[balmy condor]

makes sense

[oak sky]

i just missed you so much

[balmy condor]

I missed you too my scrumptious snugglebugs

[oak sky]

:3

[balmy condor]

:3

[runic hinge]

What’s it look like

[keen spruce]

i'd white and grey

[runic hinge]

Oh do you just mean the sofo mog?

[keen spruce]

u gonna make me login

daggies don't look so dank in game

[runic hinge]

Daggies always look wild on character select screen

[rotund oak]

what trinkets are we lookin for,ive sniffed sub a bit yday on ptr but didnt touch sin

[balmy condor]

No fucking clue

[rotund oak]

😂

[balmy condor]

Guides aren’t due for another 2 weeks and path of exile just came out

I’m giga procrastinating

[rotund oak]

thats fair

[balmy condor]

Let’s be real, most of it is gonna be copy paste anyway

[rotund oak]

yup

[balmy condor]

Change trinkets, swap some off-pieces, call it a day

Raid tips page needs updating though

We didn’t have caustic in the first 2 tiers need to change all the talent recommendations and shit

Doomed

[rotund oak]

[runic hinge]

Caustic goated talent

[blazing jewel]

lil bro telling us to pad smh

[balmy condor]

If I tell people to run caustic it’s pad, if I don’t I’m sandbagging

Tell me what I’m supposed to do

[blazing jewel]

yo

dm kb on sark

will explode first set of adds

because the 2mins line up for it

[balmy condor]

Those adds already explode

[blazing jewel]

just get an ethical raid or something

[balmy condor]

Yeah step 1: find all 19 people on this planet who play the throwaway season and won’t try to parse

Step 2: profit

[blazing jewel]

yea easy

[balmy condor]

“Guys please stop playing aoe talents this is progression for us, focus boss damage big here” - probably at least 1, maybe 2 raid leaders during season 4

[blazing jewel]

EVERYONE SPEC ST OR YOU ARE GETTING BENCHED

and then half the roster specs aoe because they dont want to be there

[sharp viper]

the other half specs aoe because they want to aoe anyways

[blazing jewel]

Time to kill fyrakk 15 times on farm and then do it again with lower ilvl

[sharp viper]

I just wanna kill him once before the new season

[haughty flicker]

i did too once

now im a lizard girl in a different game

crazy how that works

[sharp viper]

Maybe I've been a lizard girl all along

still want that axe-wielding spicy lizard guy deadge

[cold sedge]

Hey guys, new rogue here. Do you feel like Assassination can hold up compared to Outlaw? Never been a fan of Outlaw but it always seems to be the best spec.

[normal otter]

In raid scenario yes in general m+ no

Most raid scenarios*

[cold sedge]

That's unfortunate, I'd like to do all of the content without trolling :<

[normal otter]

Sin m+ is no trolling. It can work out and is totally fun if you enjoy the spec in general

It’s not always about dps. Especially if you are not going for 26+ keys. And even if you go for these high keys, just find a way to make sin work if it’s fun to you

[cold sedge]

Yeah, I've always enjoyed Assassination. Something is just not feeling good about Outlaw.

[royal lantern]

are you aiming for 26+ keys?

[cold sedge]

Most likely not.

[royal lantern]

then play w/e you want lol

[cold sedge]

Right, thanks 🙂

[plucky warren]

Wish blizzard would give assassination some love. It feels like playing outlaw is such an overload that you constantly have to be staring at the screen waiting for procs.

I’m pushing m+ with my friends next ssn and it feels like I’ll be doing us a disservice by playing assassin and not outlaw or sub.

[normal otter]

well if assa is fun to you just try to make it work for you 😄

Also we dont know yet if blizzard will sneak some changes for season 4 in.

I mean there are groups which are selling +30 runs, so even if you are like 20% off dps than your two other dps mates, it doesnt really matter until you aimfor the really high keys.

[plucky warren]

Oh I’ll be trying. Just also keeping a Havoc DH in the back pocket if we ever get to a point ykwim 😭

[normal otter]

If your friends do not play with you becuase you dont play a top meta spec, you should get rid of them xDDD

jk

[plucky warren]

True lol. But we are all very competitive people.

[normal otter]

ofc i know that feeling. Just try it, if it doesnt work you will still have the time to switch to another spec.

[plucky warren]

Yeah for sure.

Is it looking like outlaw is getting some nerfs for s4?

[normal otter]

since im not a dev, I dont know 😄

[balmy condor]

we have no tuning on anything in season 4 currently

[plucky warren]

True lol.

Oh rlly? Dang I thought stuff was out mb.

[balmy condor]

they tuned a couple trinkets that aren't relevant for us

[normal otter]

only thing that was changed until now are some set bonuses for classes which were voted before.

[plucky warren]

We pray for assa buffs

[balmy condor]

and then pushed a change through that got datamined which just scales all the health and damage of the raids

and that's it

[plucky warren]

Hmm. Interesting.

[balmy condor]

no affixes either

[plucky warren]

Going to try raiding in s4 I think.

[balmy condor]

it's just reprog

[plucky warren]

Sounds about right

[sharp viper]

yay!

[normal otter]

We just play season 3 with new (old) dungeons and items 🙂

[plucky warren]

Such is life 🤷‍♂️

[normal otter]

easy money for blizzy

[plucky warren]

Hey I played overwatch for years I cannot complain.

Game has been the same since launch basically 😭

[balmy condor]

thank god I'm not fucking playing s4 lmao

[normal otter]

you are still into maplestory?

[balmy condor]

ye

path of exile for now though

new league gotta blast

[normal otter]

tried last epoch but I guess im just not into games like that xD

[balmy condor]

be like that

[shy pecan]

I thought you weren’t playing PoE this league

[balmy condor]

what

[shy pecan]

Because jez wasn’t playing or something

[balmy condor]

she is

[spice surge]

jeez nuts?

[vestal wren]

have fun

[shy pecan]

Oh

That’d explain it then

[balmy condor]

ty

been good so far

[balmy condor]

idk maybe was a convo where I said I haven't played the last 2 seasons cause jez didn't

[shy pecan]

Yeah

Oxi was trying to get you to play

[balmy condor]

he always does

[spice spire]

Mf been too busy playing with my heart

[shy pecan]

[versed mica]

Any sims done for s4 vendor items yet? I wanna know what to buy and when to buy it

[balmy condor]

no

heck off

[versed mica]

[balmy condor]

I bet you wanna know the bis gera for 11.0 as well don't you

you curious george

eating your banana

[versed mica]

Ya

Also I lose so much DPS if I don't get restealths in keys

[balmy condor]

had a guy tell me that he doesn't trust my guides anymore after I made my video saying restealths don't really matter for damage

I was very upset and cried myself to sleep that night

[drifting cloud]

it was me

[earnest remnant]

so just a normal day, but with added texture with the extra comment?

[balmy condor]

I put hater tears into my cereal in the morning

but I don't eat breakfast

[shy pecan]

Do you have hero talent sims yet?

[past forum]

11.0 trinket sims when?

[gaunt sigil]

Whispy, any idea when 12.1.5 weap enchant sims will be ready?

[royal lantern]

whisp, what weapon runes for 13.1.8 when we play Stealthrunner Assassination in m+

[spice spire]

Hate u mfs

[versed mica]

So in 14.0 do we use roll the poisons before or after envenom?

[shy pecan]

^ can we ban him?

[keen spruce]

the duality of quake

[spice spire]

Ur literally my #1 opp

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

My duality is clowning and serious

[keen spruce]

If i was covered in fur and had floppy ears maybe quake would say he loves me too

[spice spire]

Real

I love cute animals

They deserve all the love in the world

[past forum]

Born to dilly dally, forced to lock in

[runic hinge]

Went down to the locked in factory the other day and they never heard of you

[rotund oak]

non-cute animal hater

[shy pecan]

It's okay to hate animals like you... I mean.

[plucky warren]

DAMN

[balmy condor]

......................

get this caaaaaaaaat o0009f f my keybbbbb,,,,,o

[shy pecan]

Hi Linux

[balmy condor]

dudes a menace

[shy pecan]

*a cute menace

FIFY

[broken ibex]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rotund oak]

🖕

[rotund oak]

linux owns you now 🤣

[snow solstice]

Hi all, I am trying to find this clean buffs/Dot tracker underneath personal resource display which is anchored underneath. Anyone have this or know where to find it?

[violet jackal]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[violet jackal]

One of those maybe

[snow solstice]

Checked them all out. very similar but this 1 only shows when they are up. Thank you though

[fierce sigil]

Do we know, which items i want to buy from the three raids in s4?

[orchid pewter]

You can build that yourself very fast

[snow solstice]

Id love to say i was good at that kinda of thing but i am not

[orchid pewter]

If you only want a simple tracker like on that picture i can give you a 5 minute rundown

[snow solstice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEP7Au1_tJo&t=168s

its in this guys vids

[normal mist]

Was expecting to get rickrolled

I'm disapointed

[spice spire]

Real

[limber lion]

[spice spire]

Look at the date brethren

Return of brian time

[twilit jacinth]

Can we put shiv into the dance/kingsbane macro? And activate the second shiv in the kingsbane macro manually?

[hallow token]

Weekly DPS listings posted. I am ok with Assassination being in the middle for mobs and toward the top for bosses. It is nice to be like, yeah, that's ok. Instead of, you know, despair. https://www.wowhead.com/news/amirdrassil-weekly-dps-rankings-dragonflight-season-3-week-20-338402?webhook#screenshots:338402:2

[royal lantern]

now remove the Pi from those few reamaining assa players

and its gonna drop down more

[clever sapphire]

no worries im gonna make those meters drop by a lot when fyrakk finally dies

not on boss duty and i get no PI

[royal lantern]

i had no wft on our kill and the killtimer wass scuffed as hell

shaman left cus burnout

and no we are stranded with no wft

sucks, ngl

[clever sapphire]

all the remaining assa players making sure we sandbag those meters

letsgo

[spice surge]

Surely assa gets some buffs for next season

[rotund oak]

im kinda lost on ptr,idk what im doing 😄

and those trinkets are stupid

[royal lantern]

surely they will remove shadowdust, and not let it stay in the game and resulting in sub beeing broken for raids in WW aswell

what? almost custom burst windows is maybe a bit too strong? what?

[spice surge]

Idk what removing dust would change this tier

Besides making it worse on smolderon

[rotund oak]

isnt supposed dust to be the most competitive build

u would eventually lose dps

[limber lion]

Looks a bit too strong, please nerf

[rotund oak]

as in playing a less competitive build

as DB

[spice surge]

A lot of the times the burst windows in raid are timed around 2 minute anyways (tindral, post-nerf fyrakk, sark)

[rotund oak]

i think that doesnt rly answer anything but might be wrong

the real question is if dust is stornger or not

coz 2min means more downtime

[spice surge]

Well duh its stronger, thats why people are playing it