assassination

[limber lion]

You do not need to track it or play around it at all

[manic river]

the uptime is horrible

[royal lantern]

? and

forget it exists lol

[limber lion]

Literally doesn't matter

[royal lantern]

it could be "you do 1% more dmg" as a node, and nothing would change with it

[limber lion]

Any other option is still worse

[manic river]

i wouldn't mind a slight loss, if i could pick up acro

[limber lion]

That you can do, but you wouldn't drop Deeper Stratagem for it.

[manic river]

i saw the utility build on wowhead, yeah. but i'm not sure if i wanna lose tea and vigor

[limber lion]

I mean if you truly hate playing DS/Alacrity, then you can drop em both and get Acro + ER

But just know that it's not recommended

Or even Acro + Lethality

[manic river]

ds is great, even if i rarely finish with full cp. i just noticed that it takes quite some luck to keep up alacrity.

[limber lion]

Yeah but you don't look at it ever

You don't track it

[royal lantern]

stop caring about alacrity

[limber lion]

Forget it even exists

It literally does not matter

[royal lantern]

^

[limber lion]

It's just a passive haste buff that happens sometimes

You don't play around it whatsoever

[manic river]

alright

[limber lion]

Take it off your weak aura package or whatever

[royal lantern]

its really just a slightly more fancy "you do X% more dmg" node

[limber lion]

In Shadowlands you played around it very slightly because it was consistent, but now there's no reason to do so and actually playing around it is an error and loss in dps

You should only focus on cooldown rotations and the Envenom/4p chain

[manic river]

that's what i do

[limber lion]

Perfect

[rotund oak]

❤️

[real pike]

Hey guys for the ST opener I use it says to get to 5+ CP before hitting envenom and then into DM etc etc, but I find that if I'm on 5 CP for the first envenom the buff drops off just before my next one (in SD after imp Garotte) and I have to get to 6 CP to ensure it stays up, am I doing something wrong or is this normal?

[royal lantern]

5cp should be enough if you do envenom->dm->shiv->kingsbane->garrote->envenom

[rotund oak]

if u do the sequence properly u got time to land everything coz after envenom u go into what tryan typed

its pretty compact,ive never missed it

[rotund oak]

dance==>KB mr sinlord

[royal lantern]

mate

dance is so fucking stupid macro bs

i forgot it exists

just a macro for KB and thats it

[rotund oak]

yup

also

buff sin

./vanish

[real pike]

That's my exact opener but the envenom buff drops off a microsecond before I apply again

Maybe I need to up my spellqueue a bit

If I have one at all

[rotund oak]

it doesnt rly add alot outside tierset extra dmg even if u lose it

if ur KB lands on shiv and while envenom buff is active u are good

even if u lose the envenom debuff extend

but ideally ye u would want that too to extend

[real pike]

Ok cool

We're stuck on laro atm so trying to squeeze everything

Usually I get 6 CP organically tbh it's unlucky to land on 5

[rotund oak]

if anything ive learned out of laro,ive pressed everything on cd,dont hold back

full send

(and close the dmg meters)

[real pike]

I try to time it with the charges but apart from that I do

It's not the best fight for sin I don't think

[rotund oak]

sin is quite huge in larodar

[real pike]

Then I just suck 😄 I thought sub would line up better

[rotund oak]

depends but in general ye,sub is monstrous

[real pike]

I'll extend the spellqueue a bit and see if it helps, think I reduced it cause it was causing lag

Thanks all, hopefully we get the kill tomorrow

[rotund oak]

u r welcome fam

and good luck!

[past forum]

How good is your raid group with getting the adds to spawn next to boss? Most of our prog was gated behind figuring that out cause adds weren’t being cleaved down which meant they weren’t healed up before important mechanics which meant shit spiralled out into a wipe

Also if u haven’t already tried it I recommend the accelerated opener. Essentially u just dot snd send cds. You miss out on a small amount of envenom uptime in your first kb but you crank the adds as soon as they spawn and also the timings work out slightly better with charges

[hexed willow]

no rogue changes in the patch notes 😦

[desert inlet]

no rework revert

[spice spire]

Good

[pseudo elm]

Okey i got mythic branch and hero ashes trinkets, sim says branch. I tried both on target dummy. 3 min and 30 seconds with both. Exactly the same rotation and play style. With hero ashes 270k dps and with mythic branch 205k dps. How is that possible? Am i missing something?

[spice spire]

Are you playing branch right?

[pseudo elm]

yes

[spice spire]

1/1/7?

[pseudo elm]

what do you mean?

[royal lantern]

lol

[willow grotto]

Stats maybe, less mastery with branch and more with ashes

[vestal wren]

pick up 2 orbs and delay the last one as long as possible

so you have the buff longer

[spice spire]

If buff doesn’t overlap with your final tick of kb

You’re playing it wrong

[hexed willow]

just reverse that 3% nerf and it'll be alllll right

[pseudo elm]

Okey. gotta try again and see. but still i dont think it will get up to the same as ashes anyway

[subtle tundra]

If it doesn't then it's a skill issue😔

[bleak plume]

Why did they buff a bunch of VotI/Aberrus set bonuses

Is there gonna be different tier sets in fated

[subtle tundra]

Yes for some specs

[pseudo elm]

Okey you were right, i missed that. 260k and branch buff were up the whole time. Took 2 orbs and the third a few seconds later.

[bleak plume]

So many specs voted for S2 tier?

Jeez laweez, last I checked most classes voted for s3

[subtle tundra]

Not many

Some did

[bleak plume]

DK blood/frost, devoker, fire mage, holy pala, shadow pri, fury war S2 tierset

[subtle tundra]

Out of 39 specs that's not many

[bleak plume]

Warr arms, destro lock, resto sham, prot Pala, ww monk, surv hunter, prevoker, bal druid s1

Well 16 specs with non-s3

As far as I remember the voting polls it was only a handful of specs non-s3 voted

That's why I'm surprised

[latent gazelle]

Season 2 spriest tier was giga n people wanted that back

The others are questionable

[cursive frost]

They buffed them because bliz tried to make tier sets progressively stronger as the xpac went on, so s1 bonuses were by design less powerful than S3. These tuning changes are meant to level the power gained so that classes that chose s1 for feel don’t get completely screwed tuning wise

[bleak plume]

I understand, I was confused by the amount of different tier sets modified, thought for a moment they buffed all of them

[dark token]

Sigh they did the rebalancing of all sets as I thought. Imagine if people voted for s2 set and they rebalanced it for identical ST output as our current set

But far higher aoe output

We would be m+ gods

Multidotting everything with giga ruptures/CT

Instead we have to play another season of weakass no CT envenom spamming cleave build

[runic hinge]

Except the 4 set was trash and the 2 set kept you in combat

[dark token]

4pc was fine + they would fix those bugs with new season I'm sure

Even if they didnt

You already are kept in combat by rupture

Nothing changes

[runic hinge]

They didn’t fix it the entirety of season 2

[proven jasper]

Just like they totally fixed irideous fragment for us with this trinket tuning pass too?

[dark token]

It literally made no noticeable difference from s2 to s3 set

For in combat in m+

Already random stuff keeps you in combat if you die

[runic hinge]

I could not use shadowmeld at all season 2 and now I can so you’re just wrong lol

[dark token]

That's ur fault for playing non dwarf ig

It works fine on vanish

[runic hinge]

Shadowmeld works fine this season without a bugged set bonus

[dark token]

And not to mention they are likely to fix these kind of bugs on new season start when they touch the sets

See the couple longstanding sub bugfixes when they rework sub

[runic hinge]

They had a whole season to fix it

[dark token]

They had 2 seasons to fix acro sectech clones and didn't till they work on it again

It's literally how devs do work

You don't perma fix every bug unless critical

[runic hinge]

Then why would they fix it now

[dark token]

When you touch a project or surge on a project you fix nearby issues

Because they are touching the sets again and it's a easy flag change

[runic hinge]

Not like assa is played enough in m+ for them to care

[dark token]

It would be with s2 set

[gusty mirage]

the 4pc was fucking ass

what are you smoking

[dark token]

The 2pc was strong enough to be a 2+4p in m+

[gusty mirage]

if you say so

[dark token]

And you can send the deathmark early for more poison dmg anyway

So it's good for keys

It's only less burst design for raid

[gusty mirage]

the power of the 4pc was after your CDs ran out

[dark token]

But people complain constantly about the burst rn anyway

[gusty mirage]

it was terrible design

[dark token]

I agree but the 2p was fucking nutty

[gusty mirage]

and no amount of mental gymnastics makes that remotely acceptable

[dark token]

For any aoe situation

[gusty mirage]

sure

the 2pc was good

but the 4pc was trash and bad design

[dark token]

And they are rebalancing it so that the 2+4p would be equal power to current set

[gusty mirage]

subjecting people to an entire 5-6 months of a bad design because of the 2pc is weird

[dark token]

But 2p scales much better in aoe

[gusty mirage]

I don't care about power

the gameplay is bad

[dark token]

You literally wouldn't notice it's just passive dmg anyway

I played s2 and didn't notice the set at all except intentionally clipping deathmarks for keys

Which is good

[gusty mirage]

again, bad design

[dark token]

I don't like this forced envenom spam thing

[gusty mirage]

also bad design, but not as dogshit as the s2 4pc

[dark token]

It devalues multidotting which is core to sin

[gusty mirage]

there's literally no explaining it away

it's awful

a damage buff after your major CD is over is terrible

[runic hinge]

We spammed envenom more in s2 lol

[gusty mirage]

in every aspect of the word

[dark token]

And even with bad 4p design, the better 2p makes up for it imo if both sets are equal power

[runic hinge]

Cause we didn’t care about energy and ct was still bad even with the 2 set

[dark token]

Ye but rn it's more punishing to miss envenom

In s2 u didn't really care

It was minor minmax

[gusty mirage]

you'd still care even with the s2 tier set

because kingsbane

[dark token]

And it enforces cleave build in m+ which is the most annoying shit

I hate being low DPS prio dmg simp for group

U would giga multidot bleeds with old 2p and have big sudden demise procs now

[junior aurora]

play outlaw then

[gusty mirage]

s2 tier set wasn't going to put assassination anywhere near the level of outlaw or sub in aoe

[dark token]

Would be so much more fun and core to sin as spec

[gusty mirage]

so you'd still be the dps prio cuck

[dark token]

It would be a lot closer

[gusty mirage]

hardly a lot closer

[dark token]

In early season before we got tier + 2 sin nerfs

[junior aurora]

assa is literally setup to be the dps prio spec lol

[dark token]

Sin was better than outlaw in keys

[junior aurora]

our cds dont even cleave

[dark token]

Like week 1-2 sin was better

We had a brief moment of glory

[gusty mirage]

the season 2 tier set wasn't going to magically buff assassination though

you'd still have the nerf

all it does is shift a miniscule amount of damage away from KB, but the damage is still kingsbane + spattered kingsbane damage

[dark token]

You'd have a lot more multidot dmg

And less envenom

[runic hinge]

Maybe we don’t get nerfed because you had the ass 4 set

[dark token]

And more sudden demise

[junior aurora]

you wouldnt have more sudden demise

sudden demise scales off of bleed damage, s2 sin was literally all nature damage

[runic hinge]

Sudden demise also exists so your bleeds don’t go to waste but it’s inefficient

[slim hamlet]

Who is ready to cosplay as outlaw today

[runic hinge]

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/holiday-classics-elf-excited-will-ferrell-cant-wait-gif-15508394

why does he have cat ears and how can one acquire them

[desert inlet]

me excited for Stardew Valley update

[slim hamlet]

THIIIS

I am sitting refreshing CA twitter

[spice spire]

Ur real for that

[desert inlet]

you pay 6 united states dollars

[slim hamlet]

aintnoway it actually costs money

[junior aurora]

can i spend 6 venezuelan dollars?

[spice spire]

(I dislike stardew, but am glad people enjoy stuff)

[slim hamlet]

Stardew my favourite game of all time fr

[woeful meteor]

I missed to buy guy's frog head

[slim hamlet]

Horizon zero dawn a close second, and the 2nd game of that series comes to pc in 2 days too

pogging out

[slim hamlet]

is it like the fortnite store?

[woeful meteor]

it's just seasonal

and that was in the Fall

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-patrick-star-broke-poor-gif-14729256

[desert inlet]

no deal

[runic hinge]

It’s e-boy discrimination to have free effects and then make the cat ears 6$

[desert inlet]

yeah

I simply get by with my egirl cat ear headphones

[slim hamlet]

sorry but discord merch is better than irl merch

[desert inlet]

[slim hamlet]

actually you would need both

[spice spire]

Gotta complete the drip, homie

[slim hamlet]

Where is George's cat ears?

[desert inlet]

can I have 6 united states dollars

oh wait I have nitro

5 united states dollars

[slim hamlet]

6 EURO

They couldn't even make it like 5.5 euros

[vestal wren]

or 6.9

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-gif-21458880

[somber sparrow]

didn't get a dagger ... maybe in the vault?

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-despair-xqcdespair-voidge-troll-gif-24691555

Triggering PTSD

[proven jasper]

only took till nearly this patch for me to get a 489 one

[haughty flicker]

mfw ret got leggo before i got a 489 nick

[spice spire]

He’s a dog not a cat

[slim hamlet]

Got a 489 first week

[spice spire]

Plus I’m no one’s discord kitten

[slim hamlet]

I am a dawg too but I still want cat ears

?

[royal lantern]

he is perfect

[spice spire]

True

[gaunt sigil]

You got the Razer ones or what?

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-owo-moment-lil-cat-face-sousou-no-frieren-gif-1322415692904155350

I have been thinking of modding my IEMs to have elf ears when I use them

[slim hamlet]

@desert inlet on your marks

[desert inlet]

yeee

[royal lantern]

we can eat mayonnaise now

gaming is saved

[slim hamlet]

I can't wait dude

Speedrunning mayo drinking

[gaunt sigil]

Big, I almost bought them but I can’t stand headphones

[royal lantern]

wait

do you DRINK mayo or do you EAT it

[junior aurora]

soupy cum

im sorry

[royal lantern]

when is a liquid solid enough that you dont drink it anymore

[thorn fjord]

I come back and thats the first thing i read

[royal lantern]

no no, im listening

[thorn fjord]

Think im going to leave again

[junior aurora]

need a picture of that crips vs bloods one

but on one side it says chunky mayo cum and the other says soupy mayo cum

drinking vs eating

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-peeking-i-see-you-guilty-gif-25117299

[slim hamlet]

driink

[junior aurora]

he left my life long ago you have no power here

[desert inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/toon-link-milk-melee-smash-brosz-gif-27242905

[slim hamlet]

LOGIN

[desert inlet]

[haughty flicker]

wtf

i was gonna play the event but now stardew valley updates

[desert inlet]

finally a good video game to play

[slim hamlet]

Time to not live life for 2 weeks outside stardew again

[gaunt sigil]

Oh shit stardew update!?

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/poe-path-of-exile-login-play-poe-login-gif-26508840

[gaunt sigil]

Time to convince my BF we have to start a new farm again

[gusty mirage]

@desert inlet thoughts?

[royal lantern]

it has blue chickens and dinosaurs as farm animals

ofc its a good game

[crisp pine]

Are all the assa rogues playing stardew now?

[junior aurora]

do u think they're playing assa?

[royal lantern]

you think im playing wow 24/7?

im just raidlogging for 2months now lol

[junior aurora]

dragons dogma in 2 days won't even be raidlogging

[royal lantern]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaait

red name

[junior aurora]

i realize i play assa a million more times than sub over the years

[royal lantern]

based

[junior aurora]

maybe back to blue when dust is deadge

[royal lantern]

dust is really killing everyones enjoyment of sub

impressive tbh

[junior aurora]

im ready for when i can use dust to reset my feint cd to have higher uptime on that bullshit

[royal lantern]

dont forget evasion aswell

to tank hits

for procs

[junior aurora]

its ok

frostfire will be fun

[haughty flicker]

herald of the sun op

[royal lantern]

diabolist still looks the coolest overall

[gaunt sigil]

Rider of the apocalypse might make me roll a DK for the first time

1 of 2 classes I don’t have lvl 70

[haughty flicker]

im actually really interested in deathbringer and how their new ability plays with breath

[silk violet]

Hi friends,
A friend of mine is struggling with learning his rotation and all on Assa rogue.
does anyone of you guys have a weakaura page i can link to him wich might make it easier for him to keep track of energy/combopoints/procs and all that goodstuff?

[haughty flicker]

could make me go back to dk for the first time since wod

[gaunt sigil]

I haven’t made a Lock or DK yet

[shy pecan]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[gaunt sigil]

I use Afenar but i typically like luxthos’s WAs too

[silk violet]

Thanks friend

[gaunt sigil]

I use luxthos on my Hpal and VDH

[harsh harbor]

contemplating giving Sin a full go in season 4. Typically play Outlaw. any advice or thoughts? Mostly AOTC, some mythic and 20+ keys (10s in s4)

Played sub in season 2, it was kinda meh

[royal lantern]

can i be honest

that tree looks so shit

like

legit 1 of the worst

people just ride the "OMG MOUNTED COMBAT!!!1111!!!!"high

[shy pecan]

Sin is fun and chill to play in keys and raid

[royal lantern]

when its only for the overworld zones on a 15year old mount

[gaunt sigil]

Well the 3 seasons I’ve actually played the game I played Havoc/Fury S1, Fury/Arms S2 and S3 has been mostly Sin but I’m prolly back to arms S4

[royal lantern]

the rest of the tree is "you proc a pet that does stuff"

[harsh harbor]

the whole plate spinning with dots in M+ makes me a bit apprehensive about it

[junior aurora]

you dont

[gaunt sigil]

Mounted combat go brrr

[royal lantern]

outside of the opener where you automaticaly apply them in aoe, you just keep bleeds on priority big targets and thats it

[gaunt sigil]

Riders go brrr

[junior aurora]

if things are living long enough in m+ that you gotta plate spin then group dps gotta be low

if you’re only doing 20s

[royal lantern]

ah yes, i can show those worldquest enemys that die in 2hits whos the boss

[gaunt sigil]

[royal lantern]

+we had "mounted combat" in legion for dk as a hall upgrade

damm

it was BAD

like, the animations

your character just only moving the upper body

[gaunt sigil]

Honestly though it’s prolly a Arms season for me S4 and probably the start of tww

[royal lantern]

and spinning like crazy

[gaunt sigil]

That is until I see the Assa hero trees

[royal lantern]

cant wait for cloak+throwing knife as dps abilitys

[gaunt sigil]

[shy pecan]

What they all said. At most you’re just putting out some ruptures and garrotes because of IC, energy, and scent stacks. Just hitting CT for easy AoE bleeds

[gaunt sigil]

I’m praying they aren’t dogshit

[royal lantern]

i wanna say "cant be worse then trickster"

but tbh

i also said "cant be worse then oracle"

and then they showed trickster

[gaunt sigil]

They prolly can seeing some of the others

[royal lantern]

blizz can always 1 UP us

[dark token]

deathstalker will be insanely goated trust

[royal lantern]

for sub yes

[gaunt sigil]

[royal lantern]

[harsh harbor]

Gotcha, tracking bleeds across 7 mobs sounds awful, glad thats not the case

[junior aurora]

tbf i dont think trickster was as bad as oracle

[vestal wren]

subtlety mentioned

[royal lantern]

oracle was legit so bad that EVERYONE said its bad

trickster is everyone with a brain saying its bad

[junior aurora]

certainly wasnt much better though

[dark token]

it will give a new passive:
kingsbane and flagellation apply a debuff to the current target accumulating 20% of the damage you deal to the target for 12 sec, and then exploding for that amount of damage to the target and reduced damage to all nearby enemies.

[royal lantern]

oracle was just

holy shit, wtf

[junior aurora]

oracle made you wonder if they hate priests

[vestal wren]

i think 3 trees atm qualify for a full rework

whats not bad

[dark token]

ngl like 60% of trees were bad first iteration

or more

[royal lantern]

"yeha healer, play a SuPpOrT minigame every 50seconds that needs full atention while also healing, your entire gameplay is now around this, oh and it also has a RNG giga buff for multiple people, and the buffs heavy favor ranged dps, have fun"

imagine playing disc

needing to ramp for healing

and also doing the oracle BS

like sure blizz, people will 100% be able to do that 👍

[royal lantern]

oracle, trickster and?

shado-pan?

[junior aurora]

lightsmith

[royal lantern]

keeper of the grove?

lightsmith ye

right

forgor

[vestal wren]

the druid feral one

also is a bit questionable

[royal lantern]

wildshaper or how its called?

cus atleast druid of the claw is good

[vestal wren]

bear waving does not sound great

[fallow canopy]

the BM/surv one looks very reworkable

[dark token]

shadow pan only good monk tree i saw

[royal lantern]

for guardian atleast

[dark token]

its all passive but at least its not weak and its not cringe gameplay

[royal lantern]

firsst, its shado pan, not shadow

and no

[dark token]

and good scaling

[royal lantern]

celestial

is fucking broken

[vestal wren]

for guardian its fine

[royal lantern]

for MW

like jesus christ

[vestal wren]

for feral however...

[dark token]

for mw yes

for WW

its dogshit

[royal lantern]

that tree is by far the most busted healer tree we saw yet

[fallow canopy]

conduit of the celestials has theme at least

[dark token]

bad design tree

its fully healer designed

but shares with dps

[royal lantern]

celestial is just 100% desinged around MW

[dark token]

[royal lantern]

and has WW shoved in

[dark token]

ye thats why im saying its bad

you cant call it good if its not meeting goals for both specs

[royal lantern]

WHICH IS SOMETHING EVERYONE SAW COMMING WILL HAPPEN 🙂

destrolock btw

[harsh harbor]

Been playing outlaw so long where "Push BF for aoe" Sin seems complicated in comparison I guess

[royal lantern]

its something we saw multiple times now tbh

and i also called it and why i dont like the idea personaly

they shove some "fantasy" down your throat

and some trees are just 100% made for 1 spec and have another shoved in

warlock is just the best example where destro was fully forgoten for both

• the fact that the trees have fucking passive % dmg increases is mindblowing imo

like wtf is that

"hero tree around a specific fantasy" and then generic "X% more dmg" nodes

bruh

[dark token]

id rather a fully passive tree with no fantasy then cringe gameplay designed for one spec but ur spec shoved in

[haughty flicker]

i mean the way i thought it would be was each would be themed after a specific spec

but that each would at least have it own

[royal lantern]

i rather have them fix the current trees first

[haughty flicker]

not end up like destro with a demo and aff themed one

[royal lantern]

cus many many many still need help

[haughty flicker]

and no destro themed one

[dark token]

no they are mixed

which is why they should have just done one per spec

[haughty flicker]

some are and some arent

[dark token]

like legion artifacts

its causing many issues

[haughty flicker]

diabloist is very cleary just demo

and the other is very clearly just aff

[dark token]

yes but its not supposed to be

[haughty flicker]

while others do seem like a mix of specs

[dark token]

they are supposed to be mixed between specs

like the whole concept

[royal lantern]

its cool the say that

[haughty flicker]

im talking about how i imagined it

not how it turned out

or how blizz planned

[royal lantern]

you mean like class trees that are supposed to be 100% the same for everyone, yet some specs have differences bettwen themself on them

🙂

warrior btw

where iirc arms has just a different talent on a node

again

FIX THE CURRENT TREES FIRST

and not shove some borrowed power BS in now

that all looks mostly bad

[dark token]

ye id rather they iterated more on talents

and added one more row

[royal lantern]

cus it just feels like more busy work

[dark token]

this design feels worse and less cool

[junior aurora]

ima be honest

this design feels way more cool than just another row of talents on the base trees

[dark token]

nah

[royal lantern]

i get why they do it

it is addiotnal talents and is somewhat future proof

cus they can say next expansion

"new feature, every class gets 2 new hero trees!"

but the way its done rn and how they look is just bad

[haughty flicker]

oh its 100% future proofing yeah

[royal lantern]

cus they feel so forced and artifical

[dark token]

it would be cool if they did this

[haughty flicker]

instead of constantly having to rebalance the entire talent tree by adding new capstones every expac you have somewhat seperate trees

[dark token]

the current version

is rly kinda poorly implemented + more boring

[royal lantern]

yes, thats the idea

[harsh harbor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[royal lantern]

the class base gameplay stays the same

[haughty flicker]

i still think they could turn out fine

[royal lantern]

and the "new stuff" will be more hero trees"

[haughty flicker]

but a lot of what we've seen so far isnt great

[royal lantern]

its just that the current implementation looks so bad

[dark token]

ye kinda making me lose hype for WW

as this is a key mechanic part of it

[vestal wren]

i don't like it

[dark token]

you played poe right you know how it works? each spec starts in different place on tree

and paths to where they want

[royal lantern]

yes, but this is not PoE

[junior aurora]

yes and there are so many people that are put off by POE talents

[royal lantern]

many?

[junior aurora]

its prob the #1 reason people dont pick the game up

[royal lantern]

99,9999999999999999999%

[dark token]

ye im saying this would have been a much more flexible + cooler design implementation

you dont need 10k nodes

just do like 8

per spec

[royal lantern]

like, 7people in the entire world actually spend time with the PoE tree

[dark token]

but make pathing decisions between them

most of poe pasives are boring % increase

[royal lantern]

everyone else is just using "PoE "current league name" best build" and copypastes it

the tryhards type "PoE "current league name" best league starter"

[desert inlet]

real

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-happy-jumping-gif-26555219

[spice spire]

[slate crown]

Nitro mogging me

[spice spire]

Yeah and

[limber lion]

Good

Old Sepsis > New Sepsis

[junior aurora]

no sepsis > old sepsis

[slate crown]

Ur name is red now

[junior aurora]

ye

[royal lantern]

rare cev L take

+sepsis is always bad and should not exist in the first place

updating the visual was a waste of time

[limber lion]

Doesn't change the fact that the new visual is worse than the old one

[thorn fjord]

Sepsis is the reason you should never walk barefoot outside tbh

[gilded oasis]

sepsis is the reason i always walk around barefoot

keeps you healthy and strong

[spice spire]

Real

[gilded oasis]

ur real for that

[spice spire]

No u

[gilded oasis]

[rotund oak]

[gilded oasis]

surfs up, log in for disappointment Tuesday

[thorn fjord]

2 cloaks

Still no nick

WEEEEEEEE

and weakauras are busted

[gilded oasis]

ya but you'll be so warm under all those cloaks

[keen spruce]

I only did 2 keys last week. Surely a Nicholas when I get home

[thorn fjord]

Man how many weeks has it been and I haven’t seen it once in GV

[gilded oasis]

Same its ok

[spice spire]

L 🇱 + plundered :☠️ + no ⛔ wenches 👩 + marooned 😩 + you have scurvy 😷 + landlubber + walk the plank 🚶 + the crew watches 👀 Markbeard now + young captain 🏴‍☠️ better + all hands 👐 on deck + yer with the Royal Navy ⛵ + you’ve rats 🐀 in your rations + our cannons 💣 will rip ye to shred + ye crew ⚔️ mutinied + cheap 🍺 rum + you have no 🚫 booty 🍑 + scuttled + mutinous 🤺 crew + no 💣 cannons + small 🛶 ship + no 🚫 parrot 🦜 + you have no 🚫 treasure maps 🗺️ + polly 🦜 want a cracker 🍘 + 0 😭 doubloons 🪙

[thorn fjord]

Thanks for that

[versed mica]

I pranked my guildie who doesn't like the event with this

[spice spire]

Well did you

[royal lantern]

they just want a good time

[gusty mirage]

[gusty mirage]

would it make you feel better if I made an oopsie

[haughty flicker]

oof

[gusty mirage]

well I guess I have to play outlaw now

I have bis weapons

[shy pecan]

[gusty mirage]

don't tell zac

[shy pecan]

I only say happy birthday to him these days...

[keen spruce]

Imagine getting to reclear

[shy pecan]

Good luck on getting a Nick

[gusty mirage]

you want my spot?

[gray crest]

put me in coach

I dont have a sub anymore tho

[high jetty]

new main confirmed

[drifting light]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dark token]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/best-plunderstorm-skills-for-a-solo-victory-in-patch-10-2-6-338159?webhook lol this is already out

Event sooooo fun for eu players

Everyone going to spam exact same setup

Cause they will have read this before servers launch

[haughty flicker]

dont worry its wrong anyway

most of those abilities are ass

except flame whirl

[runic hinge]

Also the abilities aren't guaranteed. Not like you can really target them

[subtle tundra]

you think na wont read it and wont change what they pick up

[haughty flicker]

na players cant read

so probably not

[subtle tundra]

yea mb

[gusty mirage]

this is the only right answer

that and the tornado that stuns people from 20 yards away

[haughty flicker]

yeah both of those are really good

ive had a lot of success with lava axe + the stealth tp

you're invis for most of the channel so its free af

[gusty mirage]

neat little game, I'm def not grinding out that renown

whoever designed that grind is high as fuck

[haughty flicker]

it seems like the best way to grind is to do the quest for 250 plunder then die immediately lmao

which is pretty cringe

[gusty mirage]

[keen spruce]

what is even the point

[balmy condor]

yeah I didn't get a nick of time in my vault either

[keen spruce]

dang unlucky

so much time invested in keys too

[gilded oasis]

Man on a grind

[balmy condor]

yeah

really sucks

game is unplayable

without my 1% damage

[haughty flicker]

already rerolled bc of it

unlucky

[balmy condor]

true

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/payday-jg-wentworth-its-my-money-cash-now-its-my-money-and-ineedit-now-gif-13402357

[storm forum]

we did it

tindral down

[gilded oasis]

woooo!

[storm forum]

get fucked idiot bird fucker

ok now how the fuck do i play idiot dragon man

[spice spire]

Grats king

[storm forum]

tyty

[balmy condor]

grats

can you come kill it for m

we're being pepega

[storm forum]

lmao

on the reclear?

[balmy condor]

yeah

patch day raiding

is uh

interesting

[storm forum]

yeahhhh

[gilded oasis]

my brain needs a patch

[storm forum]

all of us have like 1/3rd fps

[balmy condor]

it removed all my mounts from my favorite list

and we couldn't fly

great time

[gilded oasis]

less typing in chat more killing bosses - blizz 2024 probably

[storm forum]

Wowee

classic

do i play spatter on fyrrak?

[balmy condor]

you can

depends on how much aoe is gonna happen for p2 tbh

[storm forum]

i dont think we're making it to p2 tonight

[balmy condor]

probably not

[storm forum]

so i guess im not playing it

[gilded oasis]

same

[balmy condor]

but spatter is legit just for p2

[storm forum]

i c

i'll talk to raid lead when we get there

accelerated openers?

[balmy condor]

no need

[storm forum]

pog

[balmy condor]

definitely should, we assigned the aoe for p2. Everyone should be on the fire colossus by default to avoid a second set of cages, and then you have to make sure there's enough aoe to kill the souls before you run out of aoe stops

the first set usually needs more cause no one has cds

me and a dh basically solo second set

[keen spruce]

I'm guessing after i1

you save your next KB for the first Fire collosus?

yes?

that's what i was doin

but idk if everything will be back up

for next adds

i'd assume it would be

I didn't think we'd get that far last weekend and I was just kinda winging it

[icy acorn]

what about ppl typing /cast <spellname> ?

[blissful tapir]

so nothing has changed with assass since 10.2?

[balmy condor]

always dark for me

I'm assigned dark for first and second set both times cause fire doesn't live long enough

[balmy condor]

and yes, it will be

[balmy condor]

I mean there's been 2 nerfs

like 2? months ago

[blissful tapir]

but like wowhead is accurate being 5 months old?

[balmy condor]

yes

wowhead is always up to date

that's what they pay us for

[blissful tapir]

i mean maybe your guide. but mistweaver has been out of date for awhile that i know of

[gilded oasis]

heck em

[balmy condor]

then they're gonna have a rough conversation from their boss :P

we have review processes for that kind of thing

if it's out of date, it's gonna be a bad time

[spice surge]

Whos excited to run m0 dawn for a dagger every week once again

[balmy condor]

you're playing fated?

[spice surge]

Its awakened you silly goose

[balmy condor]

you're playing awakened?

[spice surge]

Not very hyped

But idk

[balmy condor]

bozo

[spice surge]

Thought blizzard wouldve cooked something, but seems like they didnt

[gilded oasis]

wish they'd cook me some french toast

[balmy condor]

yeah I was coping that they cooked something

but gave my raid leader the notice after the datamines today

that I'm not coming back till expac

[gilded oasis]

put me in coach

ill cosplay you

[balmy condor]

I'm forced to reclear until the patch

you can take my spot for fated if my guild does fated

[gusty mirage]

is doms good enough for an "elitist jerk"?

[gilded oasis]

yes

[gusty mirage]

zar do you like my new emote

[gilded oasis]

seeing as they outrank us

yes its v nice

[gusty mirage]

ty

[gilded oasis]

id rather a content lul than fated

[gusty mirage]

whispyr gonna miss out on the title and raid portals

I can't believe it

[balmy condor]

why the fuck do I want raid portals

you're telling me after progging a raid

you want me to go back, reprog it

to get a portal

so I can go back a third time?

fuck you

[haughty flicker]

need portals for mog farming 3 expacs from now

[gilded oasis]

yeah easy port for tmog and mount farms

[storm forum]

ok this asshole jumping away in the middle of KB sucks dicks

[gilded oasis]

yell at your tanks to not move so far or step

[storm forum]

sometimes theyre in range to step sometimes not

last 2 pulls it was okay

[gilded oasis]

are you talking about right after pull?

[balmy condor]

????????????

what were you doing the first 2 times you were farming the raid every week

like an aberrus portal

[gilded oasis]

losing tmog roles

[balmy condor]

why does anyone need that

you farmed it all of season 2

[haughty flicker]

this

[balmy condor]

then you went back

to farm it in season 4

and then you're saying you're gonna get a portal

[haughty flicker]

not to mention other armor types

[balmy condor]

to farm it in 3 expacs

what are we doing

[gilded oasis]

sorryy mr gets all the loot

must be NICE

[haughty flicker]

damn im sorry it was a bad joke

[gilded oasis]

rich get richer

[balmy condor]

[woeful meteor]

Loot, PI, has a gf mf is getting everything

[gilded oasis]

[balmy condor]

what are you pulling out of your vaults right now?

upgrades?

be so fr rn zar

[gilded oasis]

no but also not getting tmog items lol

I took tmog like 3 weeks ago

but just getting shoulders and rings I have

kinda sadgers

[storm forum]

i got a trinket upgrade last week

[gilded oasis]

also Im getting 1 vault slot maybe 2

none from raid

[storm forum]

which was depressing

[gilded oasis]

weve been locking out since smolderon

[haughty flicker]

im not getting vault slots lmao

[balmy condor]

but you killed didn't you

[gilded oasis]

yeah but we locked out like 2 weeks into smold prog and havent recleared since

[balmy condor]

[gilded oasis]

I h8 everything

[balmy condor]

true

[spice spire]

Even Willow wtf

[gilded oasis]

shes an everyone not everything

[spice spire]

Even freedom wtf

[gilded oasis]

sure

[spice spire]

Sorry big dog

I won’t tease anymore tn

[gilded oasis]

its ok im plundering booty or something

[spice spire]

[runic hinge]

Game is kinda fun

Only got one dub tho

Probably 6 second places

Always the bridesmaid

[gilded oasis]

best ive done is 15th

[runic hinge]

It’s not easy

I should change my keybinds

[gilded oasis]

seems like it would be more fun with someone

[runic hinge]

Yeah duos are cool

[steel ridge]

Asking the real question

[shy pecan]

(1) Guessing you meant to write Nick
(2) Yeah, you can get it in your GV as a m0 item.

Is it worth it to have your last slot be a m0?

[steel ridge]

M0 greatvault hero track?

If champion i would say not worth

[shy pecan]

It's hero

[bleak plume]

But it can't enter the loot table of other m+ slots?

[shy pecan]

No

Because it's just mythic and not mythic+

[runic hinge]

Oh no

[shy pecan]

If it's anything like how they do m+ GV stuff, it's a random item from the potential 10 dungeons, so 99% it's not worth it

[runic hinge]

1% damage on the bis list tho

[bleak plume]

Hero Nick offhand would be bis tho

[shy pecan]

I mean, that's ultimately your call if you really want to do that during (1) fated season and (2) have one of your slots be a m0 slot where the pool is all 10 dungeons

[bleak plume]

Surely after not getting nick in vault during whole of s3 I'd just get it during the first week, right

[balmy condor]

!warn @bleak plume Not really a funny typo to make please be more mindful

[normal mist]

How are the poison bros doing?
Y'all playing around cosplaying pirates yet?

[balmy condor]

hell nah

[normal mist]

But whispyr, the rewards!

[royal lantern]

at work

https://tenor.com/view/mykel-panda-sad-rain-comfy-gif-17854706157206508312

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-me-too-same-same-david-rose-dan-levy-gif-19295178

[royal lantern]

could not log into wow yet

[normal mist]

Same, 8h of work still ahead of me

[balmy condor]

dw

you're not missing much

[royal lantern]

fun little side event

[balmy condor]

I mean

I wouldn't call it fun

but yeah

side event

[royal lantern]

have some fun, earn some cosmetic stuff, gobber off

[royal lantern]

we play wow

what is fun

[balmy condor]

I know

but a battle royale

[royal lantern]

and friday is DD2 time

[balmy condor]

where you spawn in, don't get the op skill

and then die to the first guy with op skill

in wow

might be the least fun thing I could come up with

like it's challenging to sit down and think about a combination of words that make me gag worse than "fortnite in world of warcraft"

[normal mist]

Nonsense, all we want is cosmetics, fun is for casuals anyway!

And we get to be a cool Gold D. Roger by the end of it

[quiet oar]

Those damn Casuals

Stole our fun

give it back

[royal lantern]

allright, listen

what if we made a 2vs2 or 3vs3 player vs player mode where gear and external power sources work, and everything turns into "stun somebody for 4seconds and then kill them" with extremely static matchups and everyone doing the same things all the time?

THAT would be horrible

[royal lantern]

the reason i started with mythic raiding back in the days was "i want those mythic tmog sets"

[rotund oak]

im having a blast,its very fun

u basicly get the blink/vanish thingy the firestorm thingy and the silence ball thingy and u combo it where ppl fight each other

kill them all

[agile geode]

very funny

[clever sapphire]

so just what whispyr said
get op skill -> have fun
dont get op skill -> die lvl 2 -> go next

[gusty mirage]

Static? Next you’ll tell me the best comp has been the same for the last 19 years!

[balmy condor]

It’s crazy that they created a whole entire sub-game separate from your character

And they still couldn’t stop themselves from creating some RNG monster

[clever sapphire]

im surprised that something that barely got tested came out completly unbalanced

[balmy condor]

I don’t even care that it released unbalanced, the fact that they didnt ptr the main game and broke it in the process is wild to me

[clever sapphire]

huh, what did they do

im a professional raidlogger, i dont touch the game beside that

[balmy condor]

Addons just not working, weakauras randomly turned gcd swipes on every cooldown track ability

Holy priest got a mini-rework completely from nowhere

There’s missing toys

The chat servers were dying all day so stuff like smolderon weakaura and fyrakk weakauras just simply fail to function

Cause they use the chat servers

People were reporting that their settings got reverted

All of my favorited mounts got unfavorited

Macros are missing apparently too

[rotund oak]

u can have fun w/o op skill and killing rly

there are ppl with couple of movement skills trolling

and farming lvls

die later in the game

u will get the rewards even if u dont finish 1st

[balmy condor]

Oh not to mention all the other jank

Like beast mastery got a 3% buff today, but it’s not mentioned anywhere

So no one knows what that’s about

[rotund oak]

bm got buffed?

[balmy condor]

Bursting randomly doing half the intended damage and needing to be hotfixed

Like, this is why you have a ptr

So you can find all the bugs

[blazing jewel]

We are the ptr bozo

[balmy condor]

I get they wanted plunderstorm to be secret special whatever

But they actually just wrecked retail

[normal mist]

Best way to farm exp in the new mode is to drop --> do your quest, survive a bit, suicide. Easy ~500 exp

[balmy condor]

For literally no reason

They could’ve just PTR’d 10.2.6

And then shoved plunderstorm in at the end

[normal mist]

Oh wait is retail that broken?

💀

[blazing jewel]

Bunch of weakauras broke just in time for Tuesday reset raiding

[balmy condor]

If your raid uses boss weakauras it was PRETTY ROUGH

Or if you’re my guilds holy priest

Getting home from work 5 minutes before raid

Sitting down at his desk

And going “what the fuck”

[blazing jewel]

Did you see the atrocity ui combo points

[balmy condor]

I heard oxi say his cp’s were fucked

But I didn’t see it

[blazing jewel]

Login

[balmy condor]

Nice lmao

Finish on 4

Assa style

But yeh idk the backend, maybe it’s impossible

[blazing jewel]

I think everyone’s fyrakk intermission weakaura was breaking too

That was great

[balmy condor]

But plunderstorm is like

So detached from the base game

It’s on login screen

It’s not like an in-game event that fucked things over and you can’t test things on retail because the event would be there or whatever

It’s a completely different login for a completely different game mode

So why can’t you just ptr the retail changes and the holy priest rework and announce the balancing and the season 4 stuff

And then shove plunderstorm in at the end?

Would be a bigger surprise too

Versus “haha we’re not gonna ptr the patch, secret secret haha”

Maybe I’m a bozo

But literally every decision blizzards made regarding this patch is just ??? To me

[fading ocean]

source?

[fading ocean]

tyty

Why couldnt outlaw get rando buffed

[gusty mirage]

They only give random unannounced aura buffs to specs that don’t need them apparently

But they decided to nerf holy priest healing by 7% when it’s already the worst healer in the game due to terrible mana issues (which went unaddressed in this rework)

[royal lantern]

ye but lightwell

[gusty mirage]

Oh true

[royal lantern]

trust us lightwell will be good this time

[gusty mirage]

And holy fire costs like 67% less now too!

[vestal wren]

damn, that sounds way too logical

[royal lantern]

lightwell doesnt function since cata times

but trust

THIS TIME

IT WILL WORK

just like absorb based disc, trust us we will make it work on attempt #9!

[rotund oak]

brb rolling hunter s4

[balmy condor]

Yeah blizzard has a track record of bug fixing things that are way too logical

Literally shooting themselves in the foot

It’s like they added an affix irl to their dev pipeline

Shits insane

[vestal wren]

[balmy condor]

10.2.6 season patch notes for m+ blizzard dev pipeline

• New affix, flying blind
• Flying Blind reduces patch testing by 95%
  We hope this provides an interesting new challenge to overcome and play around, please share your feedback on the forums internal slack

[royal python]

Why no buffs to rogue

[arctic socket]

Shoulda been nerfed tbh

[rotund oak]

do we have any knowledge if there are more aura buffs that arent on patch notes

[limber lion]

yes

no

[royal lantern]

maybe

[rotund oak]

perhaps

[dark token]

it was stealth buffed

u just didnt see

they improved our rng by 15%

[pure moth]

More like stealth nerf

[gusty mirage]

Idk I high rolled on Tuesday and fixed my smolderon parse

He might be onto something

[royal lantern]

imagine re-clearing

and not beeing hardstuck on fyrakk

[quiet oar]

Why not both tryan

[dark token]

trust me ive seen plenty of reclears hardstuck on fyrakk

[gusty mirage]

we wasted 2.5 hours on fyrakk last week

everyone took turns inting

[gilded oasis]

Ya same

[gusty mirage]

then this week same people we roll in and 2 shot it

go figure

[dark token]

i watched zac wipe with distorted 3000000% sound WAs for 1 hr on stream and hes in like a WR 80 guild

[gusty mirage]

luck of the draw with the brain lag man

it's wild

2 weeks ago I inted hard on tindral

lmao

[keen dirge]

Hello guys! I m new on this server nice ti meet you

[royal lantern]

yo

[keen dirge]

I got an issue....I cnt find an adon that can track of my CD (as rupture, envenom etc...)

[spice spire]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[keen dirge]

could you tell me what are you use?

[spice spire]

Here are several weak auras that are popular for it!

[keen dirge]

I dont have weak aura

[spice spire]

Recommend downloading it. Very helpful for just that!

[keen dirge]

aren t there anything else?

...seems not

[clever sapphire]

not that i know of it

plater can track debuffs on enemies

[keen dirge]

I dont need on enemies, only want to take care of my CD

[clever sapphire]

for that there is only weakauras

[keen dirge]

to know when renew

[clever sapphire]

well rupture/garrote is on enemies

so thats on the nameplates most of the time, not really in weakauras

[spice surge]

Everybody uses weakauras, so you'll probably wont find much besides those

[clever sapphire]

ngl i dont wanna know how it feels to play assa without weakauras

[keen dirge]

yeah seems so

[clever sapphire]

since i have so many buffs/debuffs to manage

[spice spire]

Real ones play without

[clever sapphire]

ya im fake

[spice spire]

(This is a joke don’t do that to urself)

[clever sapphire]

played sub on tindral/smolder

[spice spire]

Nvm ur cancelled

[clever sapphire]

i can live with that

[quiet oar]

How about not only wasting 2.5 hours on fyrakk but also on Tindral every week?

[clever sapphire]

im cursed after all

[spice spire]

At least you’re not a lock

[clever sapphire]

i always give lock a chance each patch, but its too boring

[quiet oar]

I cant play Smolderon without Dust

Too used to play hard rings with cloak

[keen dirge]

ty anymore

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-philosophy-philosophical-choices-will-difficult-marvel-gif-16615025

[quiet oar]

Destro is funny for 2-3 keys

[clever sapphire]

i havent seen the first 7 bosses for the past 2 and a half months or so

[quiet oar]

just spamming rain of fire

[clever sapphire]

yap, and it gets boring after 2-3 keys

[quiet oar]

Well

[quiet oar]

Im sorry quake, my will is broken

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/mcu-gif-27544518

[quiet oar]

Maybe ? Idk

[soft shale]

we will

[clever cloak]

Hey! What is the best time for use Ashes of the Embersoul trinket during Kingsbane timer?

[clever sapphire]

macro it to kb (if you raid, otherwise use it when you press kb and dm)

forget about it

[steel ridge]

this

[dark token]

nah dont do that

when u send solo KB in keys

it can fuck up ur ashes to be desynced from deathmark

[clever sapphire]

who does keys

[soft shale]

more people than raid tbh

[clever sapphire]

fair

[gusty mirage]

The mentally ill

[steel ridge]

you can do break the meta :>