assassination

[dapper moat]

sim say its better for me too 😄

[royal lantern]

4 different types of stat gems

[runic hinge]

It is for me cause I only heroic raid and my priest loves me so I get high uptime.

[dapper moat]

ah yeah now noticed the haste gems on neck I have similars

[gilded oasis]

No one asked mr mythic nick

[runic hinge]

Yeah well I couldn’t link a sim so I wanted to give a rough idea

[past forum]

I checked with the council of Nicks and it is true that no queries were found

[gilded oasis]

He's unhinged

[runic hinge]

Getting a myth nick was as easy as crafting a dagger and then blizz put one in my vault the next week to make me waste a spark

[rotund oak]

so now that we got more sparks than we need its a proper time for a spark funeral

[woeful meteor]

antinodas I can find Tryan in the wild now

[royal lantern]

new guild payed me a transfer+faction change, so i took it

[woeful meteor]

always had to pay for that myself

> Worgen tho

[royal lantern]

i mean, ye

but its the 2nd best option until we get Dracthyr for more classes

[quiet oar]

Wait you got back to full german?

[royal lantern]

idc what kind of guild it is lol

give me cool people and im fine

[quiet oar]

If i knew

you would search also german guilds

i would have said my guild to looka t you

[runic hinge]

[quiet oar]

Becasue i remember you saying Country only guilds are cringe

smth like that iirc

[thorn fjord]

Nice dude @royal lantern

[spice spire]

Outlaw is also cringe

And yet

Here we are

[quiet oar]

I thought we had something special Quake

[spice spire]

We do

But I’m a hater

[quiet oar]

[royal lantern]

eh, was just applying for 2 day ones cus i honestly cba the "3days but then we do 1-2 "optional" extra days all the time!!!" bs anymore

[gilded oasis]

2 day guild! Except when it's the start of the tier and we add 3 days and then sometimes we also add a 5th day and day raiding

[quiet oar]

2 days but first ids 3?

like first 3

Or is this completely 2

[royal lantern]

fully 2 days

i checked their logs for the last 2 tiers, and yeha, always only did 2 days

[quiet oar]

based

[spice spire]

This sounds oddly personal

[quiet oar]

We do 3 days first 3 weeks

and 2 days after that

[gilded oasis]

You sound oddly personal

[spice spire]

Thank you?

[quiet oar]

Quake is a hater

thats why he gets personal

[spice spire]

That’s true

But a lover of the homies

It creates a weird dynamic

[gilded oasis]

Sounds right to me

[royal lantern]

homie lover is a mindset

hater is a livestyle

[spice spire]

Nah

It’s a grindset

[waxen oyster]

2 day but “optional” heroic on third day

when 90% of people still need gear from heroic

[gilded oasis]

That's not as bad it is optional even if it feels required. And just one day but yeah I get those.
We do an optional 4th day once the need for heroic is down to like less than half the raid so we can focus on wiping in mythic instead

[waxen oyster]

or

extra day during prog

yeah modt guilds raid less on farm

[waxen oyster]

mostly meant the ones that say heroic day

and heres mythic pulls on the log

[gilded oasis]

Oh lmao yeah

[gilded oasis]

It was memeing on an old guild I was in but now I can't find the copypasta we used to use

[waxen oyster]

worst case scenario

private your ot days

[spice spire]

Delete this nephew

Worst case scenario is OTing

[dark token]

you cant do that AND have competition mode

i think

[gilded oasis]

Private logs are cringe

[quiet oar]

Yes

even first kills

[royal lantern]

its cringe cus guilds that are sooooooo far away from getting any problems cus of it just do it

cus they heared higher lvl guilds do it

[waxen oyster]

i saw a 3/9m guild private log the other day

like

[gaunt moat]

mine does it cause they "don't want people to try and parse instead of doing mechanics"
i really don't get it.

[waxen oyster]

ban details too ig

[gaunt moat]

Exactly

[waxen oyster]

i've heard "want to prevent poaching" but in my opinion

poaching is a 2 way street

[limber lion]

poaching is a dumb excuse unless you're playing in a top 20 guild or something

[grim tree]

What trinkets do you recommend for mythic progress?

ashes branch

glasses

[dark token]

ashes + pips for bosses before smold

ashes + branch for smold

ashes + signet on tindral/fyrakk

[grim tree]

i have pip

ashes biss

[ancient rain]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[bronze pike]

im the biggest opp

[spice spire]

You wish bozo

[bronze pike]

your the bozo bozo

[spice spire]

False bestie

Unless ur parents are into clowns

[bronze pike]

i was gonna say something

[spice spire]

[bronze pike]

and immediately backspaced it c ause "this isnt offtopic"

[spice spire]

Close enough

[royal lantern]

its a dumb excuse cus they do it themself anyway

[runic hinge]

OT 2.0

[nimble zinc]

Does anyone here use GSE macros?

[vestal wren]

i haven't used it in a while, but maybe ask your question

so we can find out if i can help (or someone else)

[nimble zinc]

I’m just wondering how to set up a GSE macro for assassination

[vestal wren]

you don't need a macro for assassinaiton

blindside will automatically change your spells, and it was the one reason to use it

[nimble zinc]

I have a friend who is legally blind, and he plays using GSE macros and various weak auras to give him audio alerts

[vestal wren]

or do you mean one button rotations?

[nimble zinc]

One button yeah

[vestal wren]

the problem with these is, they are usually not good

[nimble zinc]

Like do I setup one button for DM/KB rotation and then others for general Envenom chain / bleeds

[vestal wren]

so its a bad solution

there are other classes with simpler gameplay

that don't rely on position and timings

you could else ask in the

[nimble zinc]

Yeah I’m aware BM hunter and fury war are easier

[vestal wren]

lazymacro forum, it is to my knowlage spezialised on one button rotaitons

they usually provide import strings

tho i think something less complex in design like ret paladin or BM hunter might be more fitting

also just to clarify, these macros are usually bad

we had a social raider playing with one, not because of any physical limitaitons but just because of lazyness

and this person, even on simper specs did perform terrible

so i would overall, never suggest it as a solution if performance is a higher goal

[nimble zinc]

Yeah, my friend uses his on paladin - ret

Does KB affect caustic splatter?

[spice surge]

KB spatters yes

[runic hinge]

Kb is most of your spatter damage tbh

[faint quartz]

Do you guys suggest some addon or macros or any tips to be better at applying DoTs to mobs on mythics?

I've installed Quazii's plater profile, and blacklisted a bunch of buffs so it only shows my caustic, rupture and garrote. It helped. But I still find that unless it's single-target, my damage is abysmal.

[pseudo elm]

Id like to know that too, when its big pack it takes me to long to cast the dot on the target i want. its just a bunch of health bars on top of eachother

[limber lion]

Nothing else really to it other than a good plater profile and practice

[limber lion]

Same to you too

I just use the plater profile I made which is found here:

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[limber lion]

And I legit don't look at anything else except for the nameplates

Weak Auras I use whenever I'm in 1-2T scenario pretty much

Or if I'm prioing a mob

But if you're only spreading bleeds and whatnot, you just look at the nameplates

Just IC up and Gar/Rup everything

Prio a big mob with cds

that's it

[pseudo elm]

Im also just looking at name plates, adjusting angle to see wich dont have rupture and garrote. It works pretty much fine i would say atm, but sometimes it takes a little more time then i want to find the ones that dont have them

another thing that bothers me with Indiscriminate Carnage is when its more then 3 targets. 2 of them gets both rupture and garrote but the third sometimes get either garrote or rupter. then number 4 gets the dot that the third one dident get.

[keen spruce]

I think a lot of people focus too much on perfect bleed spreading and not enough on slamming cds

You want to be starting your burst as soon as possible in aoe so that you get full value out of your kingsbane and spatter

[limber lion]

I'm very confused what you're saying here

It's not random, it's deterministic

If you press Garrote, it applies Garrote

If you press Rupture, it applies Rupture

Not sure if I'm missing something

[runic hinge]

I go into every pack garrote garrote ct,, fok rupture mut rupture into cds

[limber lion]

It has a smart targeting system where it prioritizes targets that do not have the dot first

So if you garrote the same target 3 times in a row with IC up, it will garrote 7 targets in total

[versed mica]

Is it better in a big pack to use rupture 2-3 times, or is it better to start KB spattering?

With carnage I mean

[limber lion]

You want to maximize carnage usage first generally

but again it's more of a question about whether the mobs survive or not

not worth rupturing small mobs that die in 5s anyways

[runic hinge]

Also you only need to get enough bleeds out for energy. You don’t really need everything to bleed in every pack

[pseudo elm]

Lets say its 4 targets, i do my opener as usual. 3 targets will get garrote and 3 will get rupture. 2 of them will get both, 3 will get only garrote and 4 will get rupture or the oposite. Sure no big deal mabye but i rather have 3 of them with both garrote and rupture.

mob number 3, and mob number 4.

sorry for confusing

[limber lion]

Yes that's how IC works

It applies 2 extra Garrotes/Ruptures to random 2 targets that do not have Gar/Rupture on them

But I think you're overthinking this a bit too much

Because it literally kinda doesn't matter at all if you have one target with both or 2 targets with one of each

It's the same effect and damage

You want to Gar/Rup most if not all of the targets anyways

On 1-9 targets you definitely want to Garrote everything in the beginning

So you just do Gar - Gar - Gar

If it's 7-9 targets

Then you apply Rupture with whatever IC duration you have left

If it's 3 Ruptures, fine

if it's 5-6, great

If IC drops, you just go into cds and start blasting a big boy in the pack

Then you will use Dance during that window

which is when you would reapply the Garrotes or adding new Ruptures to the mix

[faint quartz]

IC aplies 2 extra, so if you tap garrote at the same mob twice:
It applies at the target mob, and then one more mob.
But on the second tap, does it apply garrote to the same mob, and then one mob that doesn't have it, or does it apply to TWO OTHER mobs that don't have it?
Or in other words, in a pack of mobs, should I be swapping targets to apply garrote, or just keep hitting the same targetted mob?

[limber lion]

This entire statement doesn't really make sense, except for the very first line

What you said is correct about IC applying 2 extra garrotes

Meaning it will ALWAYS apply one garrote on the mob that you're targeting

and ALWAYS applying 1-2 garrotes to other 2 mobs that are in range

It will first seek out a target that doesn't have a garrote on it

So if there's 5 mobs

and you hit one mob with garrote twice

you will have 5 garrotes up in total

because it applies 3 garrotes on the first cast

[balmy condor]

you're applying garrote to a mob

IC is applying 2 more garrotes to 2 different targets, prioritizing mobs that don't have garrote already

repeat every time you cast

[limber lion]

then it applies 3 garrotes on the second cast, but this time it reapplies the garrote on your main target

[balmy condor]

that's it

[limber lion]

and applies 2 new garrotes on 2 new targets

[faint quartz]

So just keep applying garrote to the same target, and not bother about clicking other nameplates when spreading garrote, right?

[limber lion]

No

[balmy condor]

you'd lose out on the garrote you're casting

but it's kinda whatever

[pseudo elm]

i allways change target to the one that dont got it

[faint quartz]

Gotcha

[limber lion]

If you don't care about giga efficiency and there's less than 8 targets, then sure

[static glacier]

Low-key, is there a world where CT or multitarget bleeds are buffed?

[limber lion]

but if you have 8-9 targets, you have to change targets

[limber lion]

CT already strong, tier + spatter just too stronk

[runic hinge]

I hope they buff ct

No flair bias

[faint quartz]

Is there a way of changing Plater so that the plates don't skitter around when there's loads of mobs? Makes it a bit hard to click them.

[limber lion]

Doubt it needs a buff

[static glacier]

Thing is our performance in keys could use a buff, but raid aoe is solid

[limber lion]

Skitter around?

[faint quartz]

When there's many mobs, the name plates move around too fast.

[limber lion]

They shouldn't really be moving around too much if your camera is still

It really depends on the camera angles and whatnot

My nameplates all stack up in a nice line when I move the camera a certain way

Or they're just on top of the mobs themselves when facing em

Make sure you're not using "overlapping nameplates"

that can cause some funk for sure

[static glacier]

Ideally you’d gar a clean target but ultimately it won’t make a huge difference if you gar a target with bleeds on, since you’d need the pack to have mobs that are 6-9-12 where you’d have a single mob without bleed really

One trick is to take a global where ur rupturing to target or mouse over a clean target

[faint quartz]

Is this the "Stacking nameplates" option, on Plater's general settings?

[nimble zinc]

When do you decide to AOE cleave with CS vs bleeds?

[limber lion]

Yes, you want to use stacking nameplates, not overlapping nameplates

Overlapping is fine for specs that don't care about multi-targeting

like a dumb infernal warlock build or whatever

[limber lion]

When there's a mob that can last the entire burst or if I know I won't be using my cds for a better thing in like 30s

[nimble zinc]

Like I mean on really big pulls. Like in Everbloom when you pull the first 3 packs and it’s like 20+ mobs. I think I just stealth > garotte and rupture everything then do shiv into crimson tempest. Then after all bleeds and poisons are up I do Envenom chaining for caustic splatter + tier bonus cleave. Is that right?

[limber lion]

Again kinda depends on the key level and what kind of comp you're running

If you have 2 other people all slamming cds there, it's kinda pointless

[pseudo elm]

im the nameplates from elvui, mabye ill try whispyrs weakaura for that instead

[limber lion]

Unless you're doing a +25 where the mobs won't die instantly

[limber lion]

Weakauras and nameplates are different things

You need the plater addon to use Whispyr's or my plater profiles

[balmy condor]

if you have 20+ mobs you're never going to be able to envenom by that logic

if you're playing a caustic focused build you just get out your stealth garrotes and then go for caustic

if you're playing a bleed build, you can go for more bleeds than you need for energy

but it's not really a step by step thing

your main damage will come from stealth garrotes, ct if talented, caustic, tier, and kingsbane

its up to you to balance that out

if you spend the first 30 seconds of a fight just spreading bleeds

then you're never going to kingsbane for caustic

[limber lion]

Just comes down to practice and playing the spec a bunch to get a feel for what's worth and when

[nimble zinc]

caustic spreads KB?

[limber lion]

Yes

[balmy condor]

yes

it's easily like 80% of the value of caustic

[nimble zinc]

the only time i do caustic splatter cleave is like on bossess with adds, like the first boss of everbloom, or like gnarlroot and tindral

in keys i'm mostly just spreading bleeds and watching them bleed out with sudden demise

[balmy condor]

yeh that's not gonna work past like 15's

[limber lion]

Very interesting

You don't even need to "do caustic splatter", you just mutilate once and do the normal rotation and you'll be pumping

just one mutilate is all you need

[faint quartz]

I picked your Utilitarian build simply because it's got one less button for me to focus on (Thistle), but I still suck hah.

[limber lion]

assuming you envenom once in a while and don't just reapply ruptures permanently when they're at 30s remaining

[balmy condor]

you're not using half the spec if you're just spamming bleeds

[nimble zinc]

well i think on like 18's and 20's i put up all bleeds and then evenom chain / kb splatter, is that right?

[balmy condor]

99% of the time its just not pressing cooldowns I'm gonna be real

[nimble zinc]

i try to save KB for like the mobs that have more health, and or just bosses

[balmy condor]

every time I've done m+ coaching, it's essentially just "don't press bleeds for 20 seconds, slam the kingsbane"

it's a 1 min cd

holding it is practically pointless

it's always up

[faint quartz]

I do alright damage on bosses and single-target. But on groups of mobs, I suck hard.

Or it's because I mess up the CDs and don't apply shiv

[balmy condor]

yah

that's the spec atm

everything is either carnage or caustic

and caustic = kingsbane

[nimble zinc]

gotcha

i typically shiv before i pop crimson tempest

[pseudo elm]

when im multi target specced im kinda happy with my dps. usualy at the top actually, but then my problem is single target on the boss

[balmy condor]

why would you pop shiv before

and not after

[nimble zinc]

and also shiv right before DM > shadowdance > K, and then shiv again like 6 sec later

[balmy condor]

ya

as long as you get the last 8 seconds of kingsbane inside a shiv window the other is fine

generally wouldn't want to pop shiv before ct though

that sounds pretty sus

[nimble zinc]

good to know

i'm just trying to figure why on super big pulls i'm only doing like 300k and the BM hunter or (insert big dick dps here) does liek 700k-1mil

[balmy condor]

not leveraging deathmark+kingsbane enough

[nimble zinc]

so it is possible to hit like 700k aoe dps on a big pull, i'm just not doing t right?i

i wasn't sure if that was a flaw with sin in general or with the way i play it

do you change any talents between a +15 and a 20+? I use the same build the M+ aerterial shock one thats on wowhead.

[runic hinge]

I used that build to 3k so you’ll be fine

[balmy condor]

correct

[balmy condor]

shouldn't need to, no

[nimble zinc]

hurray thanks so much

i'm currently 475 and around 2400+ io

[faint quartz]

I started using Quazii's plater profile, but looking at yours, it seems a bit more intuitive for Rogues. I'm having some difficulty purging the Quazii profile. I've tried deleting the profile, deleting the Plater addon, but when I reinstall Plater, it's still loading up his profile. How do I properly start new to install your profile?

[shy pecan]

It should be under profiles, but have a different window pop up to change the profile.

[faint quartz]

I was doing it wrong lol

Also, on the pooling practice aura, what does this symbol mean:?

[balmy condor]

that's the tier

[faint quartz]

I've just returned to WoW after a long hiatus. I don't know how I'd play without your guides. It's all much more complex nowadays

[faint quartz]

So, chain Envenoms?

[balmy condor]

yepge

it's just the icon to chain now

[faint quartz]

Gotcha

Do yours or Cev's plater profiles indicate when an garrote is improved?

This Discord server is amazing 🩷

[gilded oasis]

I *think *most people use WA to indicate improved garrote vs scripting it into plater

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[gilded oasis]

but I also don't use their profile so im talking out my ass. which then you ask why did you answer in the first place. who knows

[shy pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/ralph-wiggum-simpsons-hi-bye-gif-16529059407582436389

[gilded oasis]

I'm doing something, that's for sure

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

Most every pack will show improved garrote

Shouldn’t make a difference either way

Mine just looks a little different from cevs

Aesthetic thing

[faint quartz]

@balmy condor On your guide you say to cast sanguine blades, does this mean to let the energy pool to above 50%?

[balmy condor]

That’s a broken link to exsanguinate

Which doesn’t exist anymore

I don’t know where that would even be

Can you dm me about that

Need to get that fixed later tonight

[spice spire]

Yapping

[oak tangle]

#billablehours

[balmy condor]

Nah

[oak tangle]

Rip

[balmy condor]

PvP rotation page

Should’ve been updated for 10.2

Not billable if it’s something I missed

[oak tangle]

Is the update to delete the page cause a rotation makes zero sense in pvp?

[balmy condor]

Hey man if it was up to me I wouldn’t be writing the page in the first place

PvP guides weren’t getting enough traffic to justify full time writers

So they got merged into mine

Be like that

[runic hinge]

I’ll write it for you

[balmy condor]

I’ll write you

[river cipher]

Ngl I miss them horrific visions

[balmy condor]

A well worded beautiful letter via carrier pigeon

[runic hinge]

Can you send it via USPS? I need to stay in business

[balmy condor]

The United States Piss?

Nah I’m good

[river cipher]

Who ever thought they needed full time writers?

[balmy condor]

“Full time” meaning like people who only do that, not actual full time 40 hour a week

[river cipher]

Oh

[balmy condor]

It’s still having to pay extra for patch updates and stuff though

So now instead of paying a PvP writer and a PvE writer every time a patch goes out

It’s just PvE writer now

The PvP guides got trimmed heavily

And then merged in

[river cipher]

Thats weird tbh

[balmy condor]

Just cost cutting

[runic hinge]

PvP isn’t popular at all anymore

Either

[balmy condor]

Ain’t nobody clicking on PvP links

Even if it was popular as a game mode, who’s googling a written PvP guide

[woeful meteor]

pvp is peak feelcraft and copy streamers

[river cipher]

If you ask pvpers theyd say M+ isn't popular

[balmy condor]

They’re just gonna copy whatever pikaboo says in stream

[balmy condor]

Yeh we call that “delusional” around here

[river cipher]

But yeah horrific visions. Honestly great content 0nce we got to like week 10

[balmy condor]

Visions were pretty good yeh

Rough on the start

[river cipher]

When people began speedrunning the 5 masks

[balmy condor]

I’m hoping that those delves from next expac have something challenging

If it’s just forbidden reach vault type stuff I’m gonna be sad

[runic hinge]

I hope it’s torgies and mage tower mixed but also good

[oak tangle]

I just want an artifact weapon back

Let me grind all the game content for bis rather than hope I get a nick of time from vault

[balmy condor]

We were talking about this in my guild sorta from a different angle but I hope so too

I just want good content that doesn’t get shoehorned requirements

Torghast would’ve been a lot better if people didn’t see it as a requirement for legendaries I think

Like imagine the current gearing system and torghast gives crests?

Would be sick imo

[runic hinge]

That would be sick. I missed 9.0 so I didn’t hate torghast like my friends did. I was doing it for fun in 9.2 and they thought I was a weirdo

[oak tangle]

I was playing monk when it came out, and you could get a zero cd touch of death and buff your hp to massive values so you’d just one shot aoe packs

That was fun

[runic hinge]

I played feral and you’d just stack ferocious bite buffs and convoke buffs and kill bosses every 30 seconds

[oak tangle]

Rogue was not that much fun if I recall, but there was some weird scaling sepsis thing and multiple targets that popped off

Distract bombs made no sense because you still had to fight them and stuff but coulda been more interesting

[balmy condor]

Yeh sepsis was wild

It would basically cleave 3 targets like a carnage garrote

And when it expired it exploded like caustic, for an actually insane amount of damage

[oak tangle]

Yeah I can’t remember if it was a bug or not but it seemed if you ever had mawrats on a boss and they died the bosses sepsis got juiced

[balmy condor]

Don’t remember it that well

[grizzled jay]

my fav was vanish automatically finishing all bleeds and poisons

[balmy condor]

Yeah that was crazy strong too

Veinripper

[grizzled jay]

which included sepsis since it was a poison lol

just obliterated a whole room

[runic hinge]

I wish I didn’t chicken out on playing rogue in 9.2.5

[balmy condor]

That’s funny, cause I’m glad I skipped 9.2.5

[runic hinge]

The tier set was intimidating cause I hadn’t dealt with exsang stuff before

Couldn’t handle my bleeds running out in 4 seconds

[grizzled jay]

i ran with a DK who would just grab everything so i could freely bleed it all and then boom, whole room dies lol. was fun.

[grizzled jay]

problem with vendetta-exsang to me was lack of haste we had in 8.3 so wasn't a good 1:1 design and ended up a little more clunky imo

[runic hinge]

I think if I would have played rogue a bit more before that set I would’ve been fine but trying to jump into that opener was tough so I just stuck with being a mid feral Druid

[gilded oasis]

too long ago, cant remember the tier

[woeful meteor]

9.2 was peak sin

[balmy condor]

Vendetta exsang

[gilded oasis]

too long ago, dont remember either of those words

[runic hinge]

[balmy condor]

This is why tindrals still alive

[gilded oasis]

TRUE

[woeful meteor]

Played Sin on Tindral today

[grizzled jay]

8.3*

[balmy condor]

Starting to notice a pattern

8.3, 9.2, 10.2

All patches were people praised sin design

[woeful meteor]

Didn’t play 8.3

[balmy condor]

And the only thing even remotely in common with the 3 is bar big details burst haha press cooldown brrrrrrrrr

[spice surge]

Big burst = big fun

[runic hinge]

I’m gonna say it

Scaling

[haughty flicker]

dps players like doing damage

more news at 10

[earnest remnant]

gameplay wise, the only one of those that were actually fun to play is 10.2

[runic hinge]

We’re just waiting for the last patch to scale

[woeful meteor]

That’s wrong cause I’m not sure how much I like current sin

[balmy condor]

True and real

[woeful meteor]

Having good cleave is nice tho

[earnest remnant]

objectively correct facts

[gilded oasis]

📠

[spice surge]

📠

[runic hinge]

Rng on KB is kinda wild tho. Get 95 stacks one pull and the next get 54. Do a million less damage

[shy pecan]

📠

[runic hinge]

I mean

📠

[grizzled jay]

whispyr just hates 8.3 because he didn't really raid at the time

[balmy condor]

How uncomfortable are you hearing that lust and pi make kingsbane less rng because it caps quicker

[gilded oasis]

wuts pI

[balmy condor]

Just cause my guild fell apart in ra-den prog man

[grizzled jay]

my almost died to ra-den reclear

[runic hinge]

I mean that just makes sense. I was just watching my stacks on pull while we were doing fyrakk this week and it was bugging me out. I still get pi tho cause I’m my priests favorite

(She was away this week)

[gilded oasis]

I got pushed out of my guild during ra-den prog cause I called out a guy who hated me already.

[earnest remnant]

i played all of 8.3, and i hated every single second of it

[spice surge]

CT on singletarget

[grizzled jay]

i thought it was fun being the big boss pumper on n'zoth

[gilded oasis]

8.3 was big boosting days for me was a good time

[runic hinge]

Hey can I borrow some gold

[gilded oasis]

no

I need it

[balmy condor]

I forgot this and hate that you reminded me

Blizzard seemed to agree though with how much they crushed any hope of CT single target

[woeful meteor]

Was 8.3 just press exsang on cd and ct

[regal cedar]

Is there a way to change layering for poison bomb?

[woeful meteor]

Or was there more gameplay from azerite

[regal cedar]

It makes it super hard to see ground effects

[woeful meteor]

Nope

[runic hinge]

In throne of the tides?

[gilded oasis]

its part of the fun

"am I standing in something? who knows"

[spice surge]

Yep

[runic hinge]

That place was the worst for it

[spice surge]

I like the burst heavy playstyle we have right now (both sub and assa) but i suspect theyll tone it down for next expac

Unless the sub+assa tree is just full on burst

[gilded oasis]

only thing I dont like about the burst aspect is like, if you have to go do anything during that time it feels bad

[runic hinge]

Burst is fun

Yeah just don’t do mechanics or wipe the raid if you get one tho

[gilded oasis]

oh true

[earnest remnant]

plan around fight timings

issue fixed

[gilded oasis]

[runic hinge]

I can’t plan around the pull timer and you want me to know fight timings?

[woeful meteor]

Then why can I get firestorm mid burst with your timings

[gilded oasis]

bro warlocks cant plan around a pull timer

[shy pecan]

Don’t make me have to delay my CDs by five seconds because of mechanics

[gilded oasis]

3 seconds? better shoot something

[shy pecan]

[runic hinge]

Moonkins worst offender

[earnest remnant]

happens after the first dance is over

so the 3 sec it takes dont matter

[runic hinge]

Funny watching them get one shot on fyrakk for it

[earnest remnant]

since you would be waiting for CB anyway. RIGHT???

[spice surge]

But mr orange man, people on logs are not doing this

[past forum]

Raise you hand if you’ve died to swirlies from naga boss cause of pb

[earnest remnant]

TBF, its not even always that i do it xD

[gilded oasis]

actually nah i havent died but ive surely been hit once or twice

[past forum]

Die, proc cheat, and/or make your healer pucker their bum

[woeful meteor]

I only recall trolling the first storm on first kill and then getting it again next burst, fucking all timings into dying to blaze during third cds

[balmy condor]

I’m hoping they balance out the burst/sustain on assa and then put burst into the deathstalker tree and put sustain into the fatebound tree

[spice surge]

Thats what makes the most sense to me as well, but im not sure thats how its going to play out

[balmy condor]

I’m already sick of the “no dm+kb? Then no damage”

Not because it’s bad

Just because it’s the only thing

[earnest remnant]

its probably my favorite playstyle in the game xD

[balmy condor]

It’s my favorite as well

But having it be THE ONLY THING

Is just giga cancer

[earnest remnant]

ah that way

yeah

[runic hinge]

Just fucking blasting on that dm/kb in execute is soo good

[balmy condor]

Like imagine if vicious venom included envenom, twist the knife got reworked to the current tier

[spice surge]

Subs way of having it every 30s instead of every minute also feels a bit better imo (lets just ignore dust)

[earnest remnant]

like our new rogue really likes Assa

[balmy condor]

And it was just energy/resource gameplay more sustained

[earnest remnant]

but he got so demotivated when he tried assa on Tindral 2 weeks ago

[balmy condor]

Would be lit

[earnest remnant]

cuz we kill it so fast he doesent get a 2nd DM in p3

[balmy condor]

Yeh

I dont get 2 DM’s p3 on fyrakk either

Feels pretty awful

If I would’ve taken the damage I did with CDs on dark colossus and moved it to fyrakk

The difference is insane

[spice surge]

Fyrakk timings just blows now after the nerf

[balmy condor]

It’s actually just like you get X deathmarks a fight, put them wherever and that’s your damage

[runic hinge]

Okay I want to save them up like charges and use them all at the end

[earnest remnant]

speedrunning Emerald nightmare on 2 characters

need to get that fucking illusion

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/nightborne-illusion-an-illusion-what-are-you-hiding-astrille-gif-22238354

[earnest remnant]

LMAO

[grizzled jay]

i would be really mad if current Tier doesn't appear as a Talent in TWW

fixes so much of Envenom's basic design flaw

[woeful meteor]

Gz I wonder if I ever sold that on accident when farming for shoulder

[earnest remnant]

now i have both

[woeful meteor]

Still don’t have shoulder

Got guldan mount this week tho

[earnest timber]

Does Signet reset on Smolder?

[balmy condor]

No

Doesn’t reset on any raid fight

[earnest timber]

Strange I just had a fight where it reset at 15 on Smolderon & stayed at 1 the entire fight

Oops, sorry, 2 fights in a row

[woeful meteor]

It resets to 1 once it reaches max stacks

But has does max stack dmg

[earnest timber]

strange then I just had no procs

[woeful meteor]

The thing is kinda weird

[spice surge]

You did its just that the buff changes

If you look at the damage it did it def did damage after that point

[earnest timber]

Damn, that's just awful luck

7m one pull, 2m the next

[balmy condor]

It’s an rng trinket ye

[earnest timber]

DOG

[balmy condor]

Cat

Meow

[earnest timber]

dog trinket

grr wolf bark bark

thats it im going outlaw they dont have these issues

lol

[balmy condor]

[spice surge]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[balmy condor]

El no sabe

[earnest timber]

dios mio

[runic hinge]

Gratz

[bronze pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/689607891141132302.webp?size=128&quality=lossless

yoink

[balmy condor]

[vestal wren]

nicu, congrats

[clever sapphire]

Are there any particular tipps for Fyrakk as assa? (Faster opener maybe, Ashes or branch)

[balmy condor]

ashes over branch

can try acro and see if you like it

[quiet oar]

I like you

does this count

[balmy condor]

yes

also caustic

[quiet oar]

[balmy condor]

but no fast opener needed

[quiet oar]

Fast opener is only a Tindral thing?

[clever sapphire]

caustic was a given, was just unsure about opener and trinket

[quiet oar]

Or do you use Fast opener anywhere else?

[clever sapphire]

probably gnarlroot

but who really cares about gnarlroot

[balmy condor]

tindral, gnarlroot, igira, larodar

can be more comfortable on nymue for some people

for tindral it's a timing thing

[clever sapphire]

aight now im all set for fyrakk prog, thx Mr Whispyr

[balmy condor]

but for igira/gnarl/larodar its caustic

for adds

and gnarl it's timing too I guess

[balmy condor]

np

[quiet oar]

Ye depends if your raid is a baboon

and takes some time to clear roots

oh first kill

Halb of my KB was outside of dmg amp 🙂

[balmy condor]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2069014311

this was our kill

half to go like 20-25 minutes in

kinda funny though we wiped all of monday

showed up tuesday and one tapped

[glacial stump]

That you at the top of the meters

[quiet oar]

We wiped constantly in P1 and Intermssion and P2

never saw P3

and 5th time on sunday we came into P3 it was 3,5%

Like before that, i thought our progress was shit

and felt like stagnation

[clever sapphire]

so what you are telling me, is that p3 is free

[quiet oar]

Well

we didnt kill it

But im certain

after all these nerfs

That P1 and Intermission is the hardest now

[clever sapphire]

well i have yet to see the boss myself on mythic

but good to know

[balmy condor]

yessir

[quiet oar]

Its raszageth

[balmy condor]

p3 is kinda free

[quiet oar]

All over again

[balmy condor]

like as long as the seed people can dodge

[quiet oar]

Whisp did you use the Stun rotation weakaura

[balmy condor]

and people run tornados out

it's gud

[balmy condor]

fuck no that sounds like aids

[quiet oar]

Ok

Because we set it up

but i didnt work

[clever sapphire]

never played mythic raszageth

not even sure how far i got S1

[quiet oar]

Well Raszageth was also

P1 and Intermission 1

That was basically the hard part

of the fight

imo

[clever sapphire]

was it broodkeeper before raszageth?

[quiet oar]

ye

[clever sapphire]

so i was 1 boss away from CE the last 2 seasons

ah well

surely this is my season

[quiet oar]

Cursed Sandbagging

frfr

[clever sapphire]

more like teabagging on tindral tonight

[orchid haven]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[limber lion]

Because it's not important and if CT falls off, it's fine.

It's also A LOT of clutter when all the mobs suddenly start glowing at the same time because of CT

CT is also an AoE ability that hits all the targets at the same time

So you can just look at the pandemic on your weak auras instead

because one tracker will track all ct durations

[arctic hare]

Thats fair, yeah

[distant ridge]

Hi everyone, just have a question about stats, for m+, is versa/mastery preferred over crit?

after like 26-27%

(for high keys ofc)

[shy pecan]

[distant ridge]

got the memo, ty

[gusty mirage]

for an elaborate response, crit gains value in aoe because of seal fate

but mastery and vers are good in aoe

so it's a sweet balancing act

vers also stonks the fuck out in high keys because you'll want the DR to live

cause at like 30s you'll just get one shot by unavoidable damage

and then you'll just be sad

[distant ridge]

tyvm

[slender fog]

hey folks, for whoever missed it, here is a pretty neat website that shows you analysis of the top 50 rogues, including builds, stats, gems, enchants etc.: https://murlok.io/rogue/assassination/

however, it is only for M+ and pvp. So I wanted to ask if you know of a similar site but for raiding, cause wowmeta doesn't show stats distribution of top X assa rogues

[woeful meteor]

archon does that

talents on archon wrong tho already 🙂

[gusty mirage]

well I'm shocked, a data aggregation website that pulls talents from logs is wrong?

surely people don't feelcraft in wow

[dapper moat]

Anyone else having problems to get in M+ as a sin. Trying to get 17s with 476level and with 2431 rio..

[gusty mirage]

tbf you'll run into issues as any dps outside of maybe augvoker

people in the 17-22 range just want high ilvl high io people to carry them

[dapper moat]

oh, thats a bit shame.. Thanks for the answer though m8 🙂

[gusty mirage]

yea, it's best to just run your own key most of the time

[subtle tundra]

you look cute today

[gusty mirage]

no u

[subtle tundra]

mm meow

[dense cedar]

mega pog

[slender fog]

I only see Crit > Mastery > Haste > Versa, which we kinda already knew, I'm curious to know more %-wise how are these spread between each other

[royal lantern]

there is no goals

and there is no "x stat is better then Y"

this is not 2004 wow

[spice spire]

Aggregate sites are not good sources of info for this kind of thing.
Many people, myself included don’t push seriously enough to change sets, or don’t take it seriously enough to change sets.

As for %, it matters way less than you think. We like all stats, haste takes some devaluation in multi target other than that. Crit mast good. Everything also good

The prio you see there is our st which doesn’t change much in multi target probably just a vers > haste for survival reasons the higher you climb

[slender fog]

idk about that, if I were to just switch my spec right now to sub I bet my stats will be far from optimal to play it. Stats do matter

[royal lantern]

way way way less then you think

trust me

[slender fog]

that's the thing - I only trust statistics

[spice spire]

Aggregate is just misleading

Hold pls? Easy example

Cruel dreamcarver BIS ?!?!??

No

Same thing with people not using tight spender in builds

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor people dont belive us again cus no purple name, pls help :c

[spice spire]

Popularity from aggregate does not equate to best

[median agate]

Anyone with a quick TLDR on Tight Spender vs Improved Ambush. Is it a playstyle thing that makes Tight spender sim higher, but improved ambush being mostly used on logs?

[slender fog]

but when I go through warcraftlogs and check out some ppl 1 by 1, then manually calculate their stats (takes aegis..) a trend does come up

that's what I'm trying to ssay

naturally, you should always sim your gear and gems and whatnot

but there is also a general distribution that is optimal for the class, and the top parsers probably figured it out

so my question here still holds - is anyone aware of a website that does that calculation for you? Of top parsers' stats average

[royal lantern]

cus assa was FotM at season start

and at the very beginning builds use improved

and some people never checked updated builds again

[subtle tundra]

i've checked and i just didnt care

i play improved ambush cause i like the cp

[spice spire]

We took several nerfs

[subtle tundra]

;3

[spice spire]

Ambush damage went down

So improved ambush damage went down. Made tight spender better

[royal lantern]

do you even know how "top parses" work

or how assa works right now for "top parses"

aka 20 different forms of RNG gamble + externals + good killtimers for you

somebody having 3%more crit then the other guy doesnt matter at all for that shit

[subtle tundra]

and being able to pad on certain bosses

;3

[royal lantern]

ye

[median agate]

Guess i'm some people, was in sub prison for Smolderon. Figured I should double check some things before starting Fyrakk

[royal lantern]

playing top parses on fyrakk can be ultra int for your raid

[pseudo elm]

Whats the name of your plater profile?

[royal lantern]

cus it means you use cd's on golems, and depeending on the team that can be pure padding that makes the fight harder

[subtle tundra]

thank god ive been in the same guild for 4 years cause i certaintly dont want to be bothered with parsing

[vestal wren]

bis lable is on nick tho

[limber lion]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[limber lion]

it's here

[spice spire]

Which is good - but everyone just sees the most used when you pull gear up from boss encounters

[median agate]

Had the option of my second nick in vault, was kinda sad taking ashes

[runic hinge]

Blindside chance went down too, which I think was the real kicker for the talent swap

[spice spire]

No bitches

[pseudo elm]

Thanks, i like it. Looks good

[runic hinge]

You got me there

[limber lion]

Great!

[shy pecan]

There isn’t one that any TC would ever recommend for all the reasons they’ve mentioned. There’s a lot more variables than just stats that determine top parses

[royal lantern]

brand stacked fast and you where lucky with kingsbane crits?

enjoy a high number

[gilded oasis]

dont have to call me out br0

[gilded oasis]

can it be bis tho cause its all I can get ty

[pseudo elm]

Have you done any other weakauras or addons for rogues? Just curious

[shy pecan]

Yeah, it’s shit like that that’s just annoying. People see that and think “O YA THAT MUST BE BIS BECAUSE EVERYONE IS USING IT”

And then realize no one can get a damn 489 Nick from their Vault

[runic hinge]

Just loot it bro

[shy pecan]

Hey

[runic hinge]

Hi

[shy pecan]

I dare you to ping Stealthi saying that

[runic hinge]

Hmmm

[limber lion]

Used to make my own weak aura packs as well, but not anymore. I tend to just yoink Afenar's or Whispyr's packs and then modify them to my needs.

If you're looking into weakauras, Whispyr's pack is good

[pseudo elm]

okey, im using Quazii atm. And it works now when im used to it but id like to change. But im truly scared of getting in to setting up weakauras again. It took me forever to get "okey"

[royal lantern]

@earnest remnant

[shy pecan]

This fucking guy

[earnest remnant]

[royal lantern]

[spice spire]

Krill issue tbh

[gilded oasis]

[spice spire]

[past forum]

any ashes enjoyers try simming bsl to see how it compares with boots? i'm assuming worse but i just wanna explore options

[faint quartz]

@limber lion With your Plater profile, there's a green effect when I apply shiv to a target. Do you know how I can make this effect more obvious?

[shy pecan]

Could always modify it to your needs through the display settings

And conditions

[limber lion]

can just add a thicker border on the shiv script

instead of 1px

to like 3px

[runic hinge]

BSL with ashes was 1.5% over boots/patch for me. That was with default uptime as well. I usually get about 50%

[past forum]

just ran some sims and looks like bsl with ashes is worse than boots with ashes for me. i guess cause i have the high mastery ring and neck from dht? idk

[runic hinge]

Could be

[faint quartz]

Do you know where I can edit that option?

[shy pecan]

Should be under Display -> Borders

[pseudo elm]

my sims are higher with bsl and ashes then with ashes and boots+patch

[faint quartz]

Thanks 😄

[dark token]

since we switched to tight spender instead of improved ambush is it now a dps gain to mutilate during dance window instead of ambush?

[red wolf]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[agile geode]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[normal mist]

Were there any news on the next fated season yet?

[royal lantern]

nope

[vestal wren]

I think the idea is

to not give information so we get hyped for s4

twitter had a lot of "it will be awesome" posts about s4

the problem is, it isn't rly working. I don't think anyone is getting hyped

[normal mist]

💀I wanted to have a reason (a good one) to come back to the game in the next season but they ain't helping

[balmy condor]

The biggest announcement we got was “it’s not like shadowlands”

Which…. Could mean many things

[earnest remnant]

well hopefully

i cant be worse

right?

[normal mist]

[vestal wren]

blizz: hold my beer

[bronze pike]

Why pink

How do I get pink

[vestal wren]

its transmog

and you can't

[quiet oar]

its not like shadowlands, ecause its DF dungeons and Raids

and not SL Dungeons and Riads

[normal mist]

I got promoted to either Sanji or Zoro in the tmog channel

[bronze pike]

:(

[bronze pike]

Grats on promotion

[normal mist]

Honestly outside of that channel I'm still very red

[bronze pike]

I also like your pfp

[normal mist]

The effect or the image?

[bronze pike]

No no the pfp itself

Ai mirror right?

[normal mist]

Yep!

[bronze pike]

Pog

[normal mist]

I've used the app a bunch, if used properly you can get amazing pfp out of it

[runic hinge]

Pink looks good on you

[normal mist]

Thanks man

[quiet oar]

[royal lantern]

pink is just a shade of red anyway

[vestal wren]

orange is the new black ^^

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/oitnb-orange-isthe-new-black-dance-dancing-gif-12308165

[rotund oak]

need the number from the left one

(wanna ask her something)

lul

[arctic socket]

It’s weird not seeing you with the mog pic

But I’m very jealous of the pink color

[normal mist]

I wasn't expecting jealousy for pink D: but yeah it's pretty gorgeous

[arctic socket]

Pink is my favorite color I’m stuck with this weird red

[normal mist]

[normal mist]

Btw which mog pic? I usually rotate the pfp xd

[arctic socket]

The white glad set

[normal mist]

Ohh yeah I keep rotating, I get tired of them really quickly so I just take new SS and run them to thru free AI

#1170654455973294110 message

[arctic socket]

That’s pretty nice

I need to do one with my t3 mog

On my panda

[pseudo elm]

Anyone knows the name of that weakaura/addon?

[keen spruce]

raid ability timeline

there's a bunch of different ones on wago

[pseudo elm]

Anyone of them you recomend?

[keen spruce]

they're all pretty much the same

just fit and finish

[pseudo elm]

okey, thanks. got big wigs now but that one is alot more helpful

[drifting cloud]

it requires a boss mod to work

[pseudo elm]

i know, got that one too

i guess i need to find the option to hide them so it only shows raid timeline?

[keen spruce]

these timeline WAs replace your bigwigs bars

[pseudo elm]

ah, okey. ofcourse. stuiped question.

[quiet oar]

ASTRAL BREAK

Sorry cant help my self seeing something Tindral related

[keen spruce]

GRASPING SNARL

[quiet oar]

THE HEAVENS FALL

[pseudo elm]

So atm im still 100% sin rogue, I still havent decided wich spec ill start gearing for next. For m+ i would pick outlaw for sure but im really curious on sub. How is sub compared to sin to play?

For raid sub looks like the way to go.

[royal lantern]

more spammy in m+

dmg pattern is roughly the same in m+ tbh

burst windows with allright dmg inbettwen them

[pseudo elm]

Okey, and about gear, sin compared to sub isent that huge diffrence in gear. It feels like its i need to change less gear for it. Or am i wrong

Sence crests are limited the best would be to have to do as small changes as possible to get good gear for it

[faint quartz]

@limber lion How do you track which target has Caustic Spatter on your nameplates? The debuff doesn't show up above the target's nameplate.

I've tried adding it as additional buff and debuff to track but still doesn't show up. Is it another effect like Shiv's border that I'm missing?

[pseudo elm]

i noticed that too, whispyrs plater proflie has it. i like Ceverions better so my thougt was im going to change to whispyrs and see if its possible to export the Caustic Spatter buff. Cos i couldent find it when i tried to add it

[pseudo elm]

You understand what i mean?

[faint quartz]

I'm pretty iliterate when it comes to customizing these addons. Let me know if you figure out how to do it 😄

[gusty mirage]

ngl if I didn't have dialogue disabled I probably would've downed at least 10 bleachtinis on tindral prog

[quiet oar]

Why tho

Dont you like the constant screaming

[gusty mirage]

[wicked valve]

Anyone else keep trying to play alts but cant find anything else that feels as good as rogue?

[rotund oak]

yup

truth is ive been playing mage but i dont rly like casting

i think hunter is where im at but i wanna try tanking

[royal lantern]

try brewmaster or prot pala

most fun tanks imo

[rotund oak]

yeah man,i think prot pala for far too long

its time

[shy pecan]

VDH

All the sigil gameplay is pretty fun

[spice surge]

Ye especially when you accidently put it on a chandelier or a branch

[shy pecan]

I love it when that happens

Or when you "accidentally" hit another pack and blame some DPS for tab-targetting the wrong pack

[rotund oak]

I dont play DH man,i hate that stupid class

i actually hate it so much i gank every DH i see in the open world

yesterday i netted a DH from his mount on the archives and blastwaved him to his death

[fallow canopy]

Tbh I try every season but the gear grind makes me stop after 1 m+

[wicked valve]

I found enjoyment in prot pally, maybe you would too

[wicked valve]

Yeah. I wanna enjoy specs, but doing trash damage until I can farm close to max ilvl is disheartening.

Probably just a skill issue on my part. lol

[fallow canopy]

I just don't enjoy the gearing from 0 all over again if I could at least send some crests from my main maybe I wouldn't mind as much

[royal lantern]

sending crests from main would be broken af

its good they dont do that lol

would make alts just mandatory at that point, cus gearing them would be a joke

[fallow canopy]

probably, but maybe do it as a late patch thing

[royal lantern]

imo it should be more like

the game allready tracks how many crests you earned

if 1 character is "behind" by over 50%, they just earn 2x the ammount

so that the gearing phase gets reduced by a reasonable ammount if you have a main character that has a good amount of time spent into it

[fallow canopy]

tbf my opinion is probably biased because I don't really enjoy pugging, I usually just grind m+ at the start of season with some friends and after that just raid log and maybe the ocasional m+ for vault

[fallow canopy]

that's a good idea

[royal lantern]

mate, you talk with the biggest m+ hater in the world

[fallow canopy]

m+ demon

[royal lantern]

[pseudo elm]

ive littlerly tried everything, cant get it to work. only way is to reset the whole profile. But the emeny health bar is green when the target got Caustic Spatter. We gotta wait for @limber lion is here, im sure he knows how to fix it. I read something on wago that he wrote about it is target as a ghost aura. But i cant get it to work from there eiter

either*

[limber lion]

I track the buff, which in turn colors the nameplate green

But what I also do is make the buff invisible

And the very last one in the priority list

So it's always last and always invisible

But the nameplate is green

[limber lion]

Wait what are you trying to achieve?

@faint quartz like on this pic you can see that the nameplate that is green has Splatter on it.

[soft shale]

it is spatting the others

[pseudo elm]

That i know, but is it possible to change it so it shows like a debuff right next to the other ones above the health bar? Mabye not super important but for me it would be a more clear reminder that i need to renew it.

[atomic rune]

Hello does anyone have an up to date PI chart :)

[limber lion]

You can just turn the splatter script off. Not sure how cluttering the debuffs bars would help with remembering the debuff better than an entire nameplate color changing

Should use a weakaura for that

[rotund oak]

its very cool yup

[pseudo elm]

I totaly agree with that, it defently shows that the target got it. What i miss the duration of it. And lets say it expires just before i use kingsbane, correct me if im wrong but if that was the case kingsbane wont spatter?

[runic hinge]

It will if you get spatter back up

[pseudo elm]

yaeh, but then i would like to get it up before shadowdance. And if i see the duration i know that i need to get spatter up again

[limber lion]

Correct but that is a case that will never ever happen

because you're mutilating the target that you're using Kingsbane on

[pseudo elm]

I dont mean to argue about it. i just explain why i thougt it was needed to see the duration.

[limber lion]

Also if you start to prio a target with spatter + kingsbane, you have to look at your weakauras to execute the Kingsbane rotation correctly

you won't be looking at nameplates during Kingsbane

You see the duration of the Spatter in your weakauras

[pseudo elm]

sadly not mine

[limber lion]

Then you need to add it there

That is the place where you need to have it

But you can also just disable the script on my plater profile

and you'll have the spatter debuff back

[pseudo elm]

i rather have it in my weakauras. thats where i allways look. My biggest fear in this game is to change that. But ill guess the time has come.

[limber lion]

Changing what?

You just add a new weakaura

What do your weakauras look like?

[pseudo elm]

Weakaura package, it took me forever to get it right.

ill get a picture in a couple of min, but its really simple

[grizzled jay]

i stole a really cool one off wago

[royal lantern]

me to, from some weird guy named "whispyr"

lol, cant even type whisper right

[pseudo elm]

i deleted like half the package after a while, couldent get it right. but i got whats needed.

[grizzled jay]

here's the one i use:
https://wago.io/drxrogue

comes with the Kingsbane rotation

[ancient rain]

I just want them to let me hold daggers like this

[royal lantern]

kinda doesnt work in wow

when daggers are used for stabbing

[vestal wren]

this looks poorly designd

who would want a spike at the end, its easy to hurt yourself with it

[subtle tundra]

funnier like that

[low ruin]

I'm sure trolls hold off hands like this.

[vestal wren]

i like your way of thinking

[royal lantern]

mall ninja shit

[gusty mirage]

yeah I did that with my bonedust brew on my monk

AMA

[weary stump]

its for the self bleed to lower hp and increase dps clearly

[royal lantern]

scent of blood gaming

[river pagoda]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[shy pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[lusty hedge]

Hey guys, i want to roll a rogue and planning to do push a bit in m+ but with outlaw/sin but i hate nelf, will be alright without shadowmeld ?

[runic hinge]

Yes

Also hating nelf is a sin they do flips

[dark token]

Vulpera flip is better tho

[runic hinge]

Yeah but I can’t faction change again. I’m tired of quest progression resets

I just use the engi toy

[normal otter]

!fu

[gaunt moat]

After playing with some sub rogues in raid.
I feel like we suck 🥲

they butchered us 🥲

[royal lantern]

there are like, 4 races that do flips

[runic hinge]

And they’re all S tier

For that reason alone

[royal lantern]

worgen had a backflip

but blizz made it a normal frontflip for some reason

:c

[dark token]

Back flip wtf

I would insta play that race

[pseudo elm]

sorry took a while, i only use the buff bar from my weakaura package sence i just couldent get it good enough. With cooldownbars and everything. So i gotta change to something better. And for KB i had to get a seperate weakaura. It dosent show trinkets aswell

[limber lion]

Your setup is very odd because you're tracking so little things and half of them are completely useless

You do not need to track Alacrity or the set effect whatsoever

It's completely redundant information

Why don't you just use a weakaura package that has all the essentials like Whispyr's instead?

Tracks all cds, durations, empowerement effects and whatnot

[dark token]

Since we are now taking tight spender instead of improved ambush, is it worth it to mutilate instead of ambush during dance/kingsbane windows for more rng CP + poison procs?

I can see it being worth because the increased crit chance from MA probably results in similar CP overall

[runic hinge]

I think it’s like 400 dps

You’re talking 3gcds every minute

[dark token]

A gain is a gain

[runic hinge]

And like 2/4 poison procs

I mean that’s barely out of margin

[dark token]

We need every inch to catch up with sub

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-look-what-they-need-to-mimic-a-fraction-of-our-power-gif-25672186

[dark token]

I'm just curious if it's a gain I can sim it myself but wondering if anyone did already

[runic hinge]

I’m fairly sure it’s a gain but I’m also fairly sure the gain is very minimal.

[dark token]

It's also an easy fix just unbind ambush and put in mut

[balmy condor]

fairly sure whats a gain?

[runic hinge]

Mut inside dance

[dark token]

What are you replying to I just see nothing

[balmy condor]

yeah it already does that

always has

&(!dot.kingsbane.ticking|debuff.deathmark.down|buff.blindside.up)

it blocks ambush when kingsbane is ticking unless blindside is up

cause ya know

free is good

[runic hinge]

I see

[balmy condor]

it's like actually 25 dps though

[pseudo elm]

Ofcourse im tracking more things then whats shown there. CD´s ive just been using my action bars. But yeah i know i need to change it. Ive looked at whispyrs twitch and i really like the setup. So thats what im going for

[balmy condor]

I remember that shit needing so many iterations

[runic hinge]

Yeah. I thought it was within margin regardless

[balmy condor]

correct

[runic hinge]

You’ve been blocked or have blocked someone else. Also the sims already do what you’re asking but it is 25 dps gain to mut over ambush in dance

[pseudo elm]

@limber lion and at that time this was the only weakaura i could find with CT. And i dident know a thing about weakauras then. So thats the reason why its crap

[limber lion]

That's interesting because you said it took you forever to set up right and how it's your biggest fear to change it

[pseudo elm]

yes it did

[limber lion]

Was expecting something else than just 4 trackers lol

but yeah just download Whispyr's package

[pseudo elm]

i got more then that ofcourse.