#assassination

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waxen oyster
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i played sub b/c acro made me less pissed

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with tornados

humble crane
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I think with a week or 2 I could get to the point on sub where im fine, but yeah. Not having played it much before, its a lot at the start

balmy condor
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I played sub on tindral cause we didn't have aoe for roots and trees

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and then we recruited like 3-4 trials mid prog

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that did a lot of aoe for roots and trees

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and then I was punching air

waxen oyster
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i dont think we've had a new trial since tier start....

humble crane
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We finally recruited a rogue but he quit after 1 week

waxen oyster
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we cant manage to land a warlock that passes trial

humble crane
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seems kind of hard to get a rogue in OCE

waxen oyster
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and we're about to be warlockless in 2 resets

balmy condor
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we've been hard cycling healers and rdps for like 3 tiers now

waxen oyster
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esp in the top end guilds

humble crane
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There are really good rogue players in our region, but idk, trying to recruit one as a lower tier 2 day guild is rough

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Easier to just shift people around that have alts and willing to put the effort in to play them

balmy condor
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we had 3 ferals on tindral at one point

humble crane
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haha

balmy condor
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we have a feral one trick

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and then the 2 boomkins said fuck this

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and went feral

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and all of a sudden it was just a cat raid

humble crane
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yeah playing boomie with their defensives this tier is grim

waxen oyster
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i usually have to scroll down

balmy condor
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sim done

waxen oyster
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to find a boomy on the meter

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any fight that isnt council

humble crane
balmy condor
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to note, if you're playing it on tindral, should be playing caustic, but because you were comparing apples to apples in single target I swapped over to internal bleeding

humble crane
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Thanks Whispyr I really appreciate the help

balmy condor
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but you can figure that out on your own and whatever

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but yeh

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double wafting

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need haste

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need crit

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it's kinda backwards to sub

waxen oyster
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sub rn

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vers mast stonks to the moon

humble crane
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yep lol

balmy condor
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yah assa just kinda gets all the mastery it needs from branch

earnest remnant
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just drop the branch basegcat

humble crane
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I tried to buy an ashes today, but no bueno

balmy condor
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drop the branch and then resim everything with mastery instead

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the pain of assa atm

earnest remnant
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100% dps increase

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for not having to chase orbs

balmy condor
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have branch
sim everything crit/haste, bit of vers
happy.jpg
"play ashes, you don't have to pick up orbs"
sim ashes, really bad
resim all your gems and crafted gear and enchants for mastery to account for the ashes
despair

earnest remnant
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Ashes is the goat

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you just dont get it

balmy condor
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I play ashes on frail

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Fyrakk

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But idk

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I just don’t hate branch as much as everyone else I guess

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It’s more effort for sure but it’s still a chillington trinket

earnest remnant
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i only really play it on my havoc

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and i absolutely hate it

dark token
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it wasnt bad for me except on tindral

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but now that i started using ashes i cant go back

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its like crack

rotund oak
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ild burn my branch for ashes

arctic hare
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interesting thing for me as sub is that accelerating sandglass sims better than most anything else I've got lmao

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Then theres sin, where it IS simply better lmao

rotund oak
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ive lost it 4 times in a roll and yday i also rolled 100 and lost it on a tie kekdisco

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there is jsuts no way im winning anything in a roll this expansion

arctic hare
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how the fuck, do you lose a 100 on a TIE?

rotund oak
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lootroll prio i guess

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it wsa augury

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lost it to a priest

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(had avoidance rolled)

rotund oak
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for ST not that much

arctic hare
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yeah, but its not like I've done TOO much raid lmao

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hell, I forgot to get AOTC

rotund oak
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im kinda the opposite,qued my own keys did 3k passively and i dont care

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i want the bad dragon dead

arctic hare
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Yeah, I SHOULD do it, purely for the mount appearance, but other than that I couldn't really care less, raiding is too much work and I don't really have enough time to consistently raid anymore

runic hinge
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The appearence is pretty good

arctic hare
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Exxxxaccccctly

rotund oak
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there are two appereances

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the shadowflame and flame

arctic hare
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ofc, I got the other one, the non-shadowflame one from LFR of all places

rotund oak
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almsto everyone has shadowflame tbh

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not even a big deal

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ild rather get the owl from mythic fyrakk

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thats the bigbucks

arctic hare
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wait what in the world, sub is simming worst than sin in ST.

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one sec

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from 215k to 204k (sin then sub)

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one sec, imma look through what I've got equipped

rotund oak
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my sub sims 25k more than sin

runic hinge
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I think mines like 19

rotund oak
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sin is about 220k sub 245k

arctic hare
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Yeah, but sin is simming more than sub,

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Sin is the 215k sub is the 204k

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oh, nope, I'm just an idiot, I was in my M+ build lmao

rotund oak
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i need ashes man

arctic hare
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THERE we go, sub is now at 218k

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Still weird to me that its only a 3k difference, but its probably the ridiculous amounts of haste gear I have currently.

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14% haste on sub ftw! Bit more than that on Sin

runic hinge
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Okay its actually 234 to 222 sub to sin

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12k difference

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Not sure I can actually play sub tho

dark token
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Sandglass wins for sub

arctic hare
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Yeah, fuckin same, its really weird

dark token
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Vers stat stick wins for sin

arctic hare
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ofc, my other choices are a hero CSI and champion porcelain crab... so

dark token
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I need a pips

past forum
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I think I have a bit of Stockholm syndrome with branch, and while I like playing with it now I’m gonna be really fucking glad when it’s gone.

runic hinge
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then you get puzzle box and boon

past forum
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I used box on dk in s1, that opener was somethin

runic hinge
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sin with old exsang was something too

past forum
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I knew I was gonna be swapping to rogue for s2 so I started practicing it near the end of s1. I wanted to play ass cause that’s what i played the first time i played wow some years back. Decided to just play sub cause db was quite friendly for just picking up and playing on the fly.

runic hinge
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I wanted to play assa because I played feral all my time in wow and indiscriminate carnage made me think assa was gonna be sick in m+ kekdog

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Such a sick talent name tbh

gaunt moat
past forum
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I like the weakaura that gives me the lil droplet sound when i nom a ball 🙂

arctic hare
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hey yall, Irideus fragments coming back :p

past forum
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Also i meant to say “i THINK i like playing with it”

arctic hare
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I just hope its not one of those situations where witherbark's is so powerful that it can beat trinkets at higher ilvls

past forum
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When rly i like that it gives me most of my budget of a whole stat on its own

arctic hare
gaunt moat
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I will convert you to use ashes

arctic hare
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but I'm very tempted to just say fuck it and switch to it

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But theres also the fact that I'm already used to the trinket

past forum
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Can’t use ashes if u don’t have one

slate crown
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You know

arctic hare
slate crown
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You could make an ashes wa

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that plays a little bloop noise

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after activating it

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at exactly 1/1/7 after activating it

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It's like nicotine toothpicks

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to ween you off

gaunt moat
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Lisonna coming out with rehibilitation plans

past forum
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Can we throw in a couple random gunshots, a shotgun cocking for good measure, and perhaps a couple random meows

arctic hare
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Deal

past forum
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A meow whenever kb crits

arctic hare
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is that even possible to code in?

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considering it'd have to know when it crits?

past forum
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Probably not

slate crown
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huh?

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Yes

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no code

arctic hare
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LE would know lmao

slate crown
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that's a pretty easy basic trigger

past forum
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Sick, looking forward to kittensbane weakaura

arctic hare
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well now thats GOTTA be the name

slate crown
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Combat Log -> Spell Periodic damage -> source player -> spell Kingsbane -> Checkbox Critical

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give it some duration idn .5 s

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then just on show-> sound

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I'm not making it 😛

past forum
shy pecan
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She gave you everything you need

arctic hare
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TRUE, brb

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imma go find out how to make weakauras lmao

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Hmm, would I have to link a cat sound into it?

slate crown
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WAs has a whole set of built in sounds

runic hinge
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Just use the stuart woo

slate crown
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there are at least 2 cat sounds iirc

arctic hare
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Well thats awfully convenient

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Just edit Notter's WA for when it crits lmao

slate crown
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but yeah if you have a specific cat sound you love and enjoy you can put that in as custom too but is more work

arctic hare
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Simple shit first

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I always thought it was way more complicated to set up a WA

runic hinge
slate crown
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For the vast majority of things, the whole process is pretty streamlined and, sure, can be intimidating at first but it really isn't that complicated

arctic hare
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oh shit, imma need a visual element aren't I

slate crown
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because most things can be done without the fancy stuff, the WA team done a good job at giving you the tools

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if you want, you can also make it a Text type WA and make the text nothing

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so it literally has no visual

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that's up to you

arctic hare
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Alright, somehow managed to make it play a sound

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okay, I think it might work now, one sec

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yep

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it works.

runic hinge
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Did you use the custom sound I linked

arctic hare
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Nah, just did a cat sound for now

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NOW, however, I shall try it

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Hmm, gotta find the sound file path....

runic hinge
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I gotta imagine having Stu woo every KB crit would make me laugh so hard I misplay

arctic hare
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I'm, asssuming you want this weakaura then?

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oh, shit, should i loop the sound?

runic hinge
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Maybe

slate crown
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Why would you loop it

arctic hare
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idk lmao

slate crown
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It would overlap your next ticks

arctic hare
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oh, shit, you're right

slate crown
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And you wouldn’t be able to tell which was a crit

arctic hare
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it does tick every 0.5 s right?

slate crown
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2 sec

arctic hare
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Ahh, the 0.5s just makes it so that it can track it, alright

slate crown
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The .5 sec was just something arbitrary I picked, you can pick whatever you want :p

arctic hare
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oh lol

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alright, I kinda have an idea of how to link that sound tony wanted

slate crown
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Though to reduce confusion, probably should be below 2 sec

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Place sound in folder in your wow directory. Then specify the path to that file in the field. The field assumes your wow directory is the root

arctic hare
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oh lord

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the sounds is in the wa folder right?

slate crown
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KB timeline custom options page has examples in the tooltips of the field

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You can put it wherever but best to usually store custom media in a location that wouldn’t get touched by addons or game updates. I have a Custom Sounds folder in my Interface folder

arctic hare
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If I wanna keep messing with this, then I may as well make my own

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Custom_sounds works I presume

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and I just put the new sound file in there?

slate crown
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Then just do Interface\Custom Sounds\SoundFile.ogg

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Yup

arctic hare
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awesome

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alright, I assume I'll have to add the file extension, so I just went ahead and did it that way

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lets see if it actually works now

slate crown
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WA will play the sound

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When you press enter on the custom field

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If it doesn’t play a sound

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Then something is wrong with what you entered

arctic hare
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It, did not.

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FACK

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wait, customsounds, _ counts as a space

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alright, maybe

slate crown
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You can put a space in your folder name

arctic hare
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I... may or may not have forgotten that

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too damn used to coding lmao

slate crown
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As long as what you entered matches the field name

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Yeah it’s a file path not a url

arctic hare
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Hmm,

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still not working, thats, odd.

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Is where its at. but hmm

slate crown
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Try doubling your backslashes. I am bedge atm so can’t confirm

arctic hare
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Doubling my backslashes? the hell?

slate crown
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Like make each \ into \

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Huh discord formatted that weird

arctic hare
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Yeah what?

shy pecan
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Could be because it's taking that as a string and needs to have an escape character for the \

slate crown
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‘\’

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Discord Mobile not letting me do code field entrypepehands

arctic hare
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Yeah discord mobile sucks.

arctic hare
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wait, you mean a double quote?

shy pecan
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\ is considered an escape character in a lot of coding languages

arctic hare
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Ahh, hmm.

slate crown
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So any time you have \ in that path, double them

arctic hare
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so I need to doublequote my backslash?

shy pecan
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Yes

arctic hare
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So literally "

slate crown
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Well no, no quotes symbols

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I’m talking the backslash characters.

arctic hare
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so two \

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ew

slate crown
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Yes

arctic hare
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what?

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\ \

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\

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what in the HELL?

shy pecan
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It's discord.

arctic hare
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hmm, still no sound

slate crown
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Ignore discord’s entry

arctic hare
shy pecan
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````\``` might not work when typing it in discord.

arctic hare
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imma try adding a \\

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in front of interface now

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failed miserably.

shy pecan
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Could be the pathing. Might be in the WAs folder, so you'd need to get out of there first and then into Custom Sounds.

arctic hare
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Well thats my issue, I DID get out of my wa's folder

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I made an entirely new folder going off of interface itself

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Would it not be better to insert the sound file itself into the WA addon's sound directory?

shy pecan
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Thought you need .. to get out of thefolder

slate crown
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No

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sec

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oh

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firstly, did you reload you ui after placing the file?

arctic hare
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oh lord, what'd I

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SHIT

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Mother fucker, no, I didn't

slate crown
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When introducing new files to wow's client it needs to be reloaded to have access to them

arctic hare
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one sec

arctic hare
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literally the same thing as, "is it plugged in"

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damn itttttttt

slate crown
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yeah works now doesn't it

arctic hare
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hEH, NOPE

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fixed somethin else, hope it works

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well, gotta wait 30 seconds but

slate crown
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Remove the double slashes again, just got up and tested.

There's an example that works with my files.

arctic hare
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alright, changed it

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going to wait another 15 seconds and then try it

slate crown
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you may also need to restart your client because you're introducing new files to it

arctic hare
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I already completely restarted the game

slate crown
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Which you used to have to do for addons but apparently you don't need to anymore and can just reload ui

arctic hare
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straight up alt F4'ed that bitch

runic hinge
arctic hare
slate crown
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Well I back in bed now

arctic hare
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uh

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well

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nope, still didn't work, what in the hell?

arctic hare
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wait

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does it need to be in actions or conditions?

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I REALLY hope its actions....

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Yeah, this is still not working, hmm

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Trigger is:
Combat log > Periodic Spell > Damage > Source Unit > Player > Spell Name > Kingsbane > critical

slate crown
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Ignore the trigger

arctic hare
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wait, huh?

runic hinge
slate crown
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Are other sounds playing when you select them on Actions?

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I.e. are you sending to a sound channel that you have muted

arctic hare
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I mean, I've got it on master

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and master is at 50%

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I mean, it is currently on show, should I make it on hide? mmm, nah, that wouldn't be very useful

slate crown
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you shouldn't need to but remove the space from your folder name and the specification in your WA

arctic hare
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alright then.

slate crown
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Like I said, I have a space in my folder name and my sounds play fine like that

arctic hare
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385627

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Gonna restart the game

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Hmm, I wonder if its simply too quiet?

slate crown
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I would just run through the above screenshot again, especially the last point

arctic hare
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File extensions are indeed on thankfully

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Hmmmm, what a conundrum

slate crown
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All I can say is make sure you fully properly exited the game (i.e. don't alt f4) and reloaded it after modifying file paths and folder names, remove the double backslashes from the entry field. You can't just reload UI, you need to properly restart the client any time you change files in that folder or the folder structure

arctic hare
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my only idea at this point is if its supposed to be under condition, but hmm.

slate crown
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I promise you it doesn't matter if it's in Actions or Conditions

arctic hare
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more talking about triggers and conditions

slate crown
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The point is, if you enter the file path into the field, press Enter, and it plays, then it's in there correctly

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Like I said, I gave my example folder earlier of a functioning custom file path and sound file location which play correctly

arctic hare
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Yeah, and I pretty much duplicated it

slate crown
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If it still isn't working, then WA discord is the next place to ask, because something else is going on.

arctic hare
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Yeah, kinda wild, cause its only the custom sounds too, everything else works

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@runic hinge Did you give me a messed up file?

slate crown
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It's always custom sounds

runic hinge
arctic hare
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Which, I must say, it is a very entertaining sound

runic hinge
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It’s the African grey I live with popping off

slate crown
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You can test this /run PlaySoundFile( [[Interface\CustomSounds\STU_WOO.ogg]] ) enter that in game (fix the "Custom Sounds" to match your folder name if it has a space in it or not.

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If it plays, your file is correctly placed and that's the right file path for it

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and the issue is with WA

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If it doesn't, then file is off

arctic hare
slate crown
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Yes

arctic hare
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well thats very convenient

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well, lets hope it works then.

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oh yeah, its most definitely the sound file

slate crown
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Did it play?

arctic hare
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nope, not a peep

slate crown
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Then the file path isn’t matching your file path to the file.

arctic hare
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Yeah, I even went as far as to edit it

slate crown
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Need to sleep, the rest is up to you. At this point it’s just about confirming that path and (again need to stress this) reload the game entirely again after making any folder changes

arctic hare
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Alright, have fun

slate crown
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I can help more tomorrow

arctic hare
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@runic hinge we WILL figure this out lmao

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we WILL obtain the degeneracy that the STUWOO file brings

runic hinge
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Yes. We will. I need to sleep too

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lol

arctic hare
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I'm staying up until this is figured out

rotund oak
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que'd a 23 fall on the slime boss tank strafes twice the frontal on me

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as a proud and enraged gamer ive left

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now enjoying my coffee

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so done with keys

arctic hare
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Hell yeah

rotund oak
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its the small things that pile up u know

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pulling 3 mobs when u have cds

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pull big when u dont have cds

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completely ignore mechanics and ppl in ur group

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i rarely to never leave keys

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but that was worth it

arctic hare
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Yeah, I try to avoid it myself

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Doing a key in First person would be kinda interesting

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okay, uh, wha?

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So, tried running /run PlaySoundFile([[Interface\Custom_Sounds\STU_WOO.ogg]])

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and it gave me a damn Lua error. hmm

balmy condor
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what was the error

arctic hare
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made the mistake of closing it

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tried running it again and the error didn't show back up, but allright lmao

winter gale
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Best trinkets Tindral+Fyrakk mythic progress?

balmy condor
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ashes/branch + signet brand

winter gale
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I guess both smolderon trinkets but do they need to be from M mode only or? We are extending

balmy condor
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that would be a sim question

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if you got like brand from normal

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probably not

winter gale
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Branch + Brand HC would be better than my current Branch+Sandglass

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Gonna sim it, y

balmy condor
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depends what the sandglass ilvl is I guess

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but would assume it's probably close

winter gale
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483 Glass but yeah, I will sim it. Question was more like to check is there a clear winner combo

balmy condor
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not if there's a noticeable ilvl diff :P

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but yeh, brand good

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and you have to wear an ashes or a branch in the second slot or you're giga fucking trolling

winter gale
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Ty, as always

balmy condor
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np

limber lion
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:3

arctic hare
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@slate crown @runic hinge It works, all I had to do was go convert it from a .ogg file to an .mp3

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idk why it works, but I don't care anymore

pseudo hamlet
oak tangle
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!up

wild birch
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Or you meant 2nd slot as in 2nd trinket not exact slot :D

balmy condor
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I mean if you don’t, you’re missing a large buff for your cooldowns

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As a cooldown spec

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And that’s troll

wild birch
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Nah, I thought you meant you had to wear one of those trinkets exactly in 2nd slot

balmy condor
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No

viral stump
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Dungeon Slice or Patchwerk (? bosses, how long?) best sim for mythic+???

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What is the best fight style sim for mythic+? Dungeon slice or Patchwerk. If Patchwerk, how many bosses and time?

earnest timber
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whats a good kingsbane just by yourself looking like?

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my kb trainer doesnt have a damage shower

viral stump
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I have no idea what you're talking about... catwhat

royal lantern
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without cd's roughly 800k-1 million dmg, with cds its mostly like 1,8m-2,4m

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its still luck based to a degree cus of how many posion applications you got + how many KB ticks actually crit

earnest timber
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i dont think im messing up the rotation since its down to muscle memory now, but im capping at like 600k by myself

rotund oak
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patchwreck for ST

rotund oak
rotund oak
earnest timber
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Im just trying to see on a dummy, no raid buffs

rotund oak
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but i think generally anything close to 800k is very good

earnest timber
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Yeah, I fixed it a bit & I got to around 985k a bit with cds & pots by myself

rotund oak
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Should always pot when u press deathmark

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its the ''big window''

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alot of dmg in there

earnest timber
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Oh, yeah of course, I just was trying different levels of where my damage should be.

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Unbuffed, potted, etc.

rotund oak
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generally assassination has 2 ''windows'' one small when u press only KB

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one big where u press pot+KB

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those two always allign at 2min

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and on 1 min u press KB once more

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it never fails

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but for very detailed usage of pots,and cds and all whispyr has a youtube channel

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u can check all the guides,he has done an amazing job

royal lantern
rotund oak
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tried to parse a heroic skip and i think ive done a 4.1mil record on larodar

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we ended up killing everything anyway

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cringe to boost alts but whatever

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i need ashes man

oak tangle
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i think my best dummy kb was 3 mil?

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prior to nerfs though

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:rip:

rotund oak
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in raids u will prolly do more

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and if u check the guides whispyr did

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u will do more for sure

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its very textbook rotational

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get the buffs for last tick,if it crits u go gigadam

subtle tundra
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folyr healing is comfortable rn on god

slate crown
wild condor
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How many combo points do we use for KB window? With ambush procs I’m usually doing like 4 or 5 back to back

spice spire
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4+

arctic hare
cedar yew
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Can't believe I have to ask this but I have to know I'm not being stupid...... In AOE packs.... Are you ment to tab target different mobs to spread rupture? Because I can't seem to do it 😂 there's to much happening!

runic hinge
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IC should do that for you

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It has smart targeting

cedar yew
#

So I'm good to stick to one target? 🙏

shy pecan
#

You could. But if there’s like six targets and you hit the same one again, you’d miss out on one

cedar yew
#

Right that makes sense. So to min max it's swap target

#

Merci 🔥

runic hinge
runic hinge
spice spire
#

WOOOOOO

gilded oasis
#

WOOOO what are we wooing at

#

its my lust sound cause lust makes me go woooo (not really)

rotund oak
runic hinge
#

Which does make me go WOOO

shy pecan
#

lol

pure moth
#

How would that not annoy you though?

balmy condor
#

Because Stuart could never be annoying

simple vessel
#

Can someone help me figure out why my M+ damage is garbage? I think it must be an issue with when I'm pooling/timing/etc., because I think my rotation itself is solid, gear is good, using all the consumables, etc.

bright cipher
simple vessel
#

Thanks, I was just about to link that, most recent run

#

Trying to find the percentiles, but I think i was 9th percentile for my ilevel and that M+ level

#

I'm going hard the whole time, I feel like I should be 70-80th at least, but definitely doing something wrong

#

I'm trying to let my energy pool so it's always at 50%, unless something's about to die and I'm bursting it down

#

Using Tea to help with that, saving a Tea for Shiv->Kingsbane, trying to keep Slice & Dice/Garrote/Rupture up 100%, etc.

bright cipher
#

i can't help much due to my total lack of knowledge of how to play Rogues.

but something that have helped me in the past is watching VODS of Keypushers on my class/spec

runic hinge
simple vessel
waxen oyster
#

most pushers play outlaw

#

or sub

runic hinge
# waxen oyster or sub

Playing db sub am I saving vanish for the shield for mechanics for the most part or is there something important rotationally I need to use it for

simple vessel
#

Yes, those specs probably are better, but I'm still 9th percentile so I'm def missing something

spice surge
runic hinge
#

lol

waxen oyster
#

flurry go brrr

#

you tea last 6sec of kb

simple vessel
#

I'm going to stick with Sin, just need to figure out what I'm missing

runic hinge
spice surge
#

So its a dps increase, but way better to use to dodge mechanics like in fall

bright cipher
#

and Keys are as much about your owngameplay as it is about how you rank pulls and routes stuff

simple vessel
bright cipher
simple vessel
#

One thing I notice is that Caustic Spatter is doing much more of his damage relatively, as is Crimson Tempest

#

So I probably need to be hitting Mutilate sooner in my rotation to trigger Spatter, and using Tempest more

bright cipher
#

it does look like you two are using very different builds

simple vessel
#

Can I see his talents somewhere?

#

I find this site so hard to navigate

bright cipher
#

Crimson Tempest, Envenom, Fan of Knives,

simple vessel
#

He's using Fan and Tempest much more, yeah, that's gotta be a lot of the difference

#

And less Mutilate, so he's probably doing Mutilate -> Envenom, instead of Mut x 2 for capped combo -> Envenom

bright cipher
#

let me teach you, that is casts using tables, do you see a button called Events?

simple vessel
#

yes

bright cipher
#

click on it, and will display your cast and his cast in a event sequence

#

so you can check how he proceeds with his casts in sequence

simple vessel
#

Thanks, wow, this is an incredible amount of data

bright cipher
#

Log reading is a userfull skill for this game

simple vessel
#

Yeah he's going straight into the AOE skills

#

And it looks like he saves cooldowns for bosses

#

The 2min ones at least, not the 1 min, he uses those immediately

unique sorrel
#

!up

simple vessel
#

Mutilate -> Envenom -> Fan -> Tempest

bright cipher
#

I don't play rogue, i play a warlock so our experiences can be very different, so i can't say much about what to hold or what to use.

but in my experience, its a mixture of holding and pressing stuff, if you can press it and it will come back back good, if it won't you check first, as some stuff can be very valuable on bosses but not on adds, and some stuff can be very valuable on adds but not on bosses.

simple vessel
#

Thanks, yeah, I feel like my timing of when to hold is decent, I think this is an issue with how to manage AOE pulls

#

I think I need to make a macro for tea + shadow dance + kingsbane, as well

bright cipher
#

i will be going now, but if you want to check something on the log that maybe you think can be checked but don't know how feel free to DM me

simple vessel
arctic hare
#

Heh, what if I made the woo sound for every time you go above 80% energy

#

Or, as an adaptation for outlaw, everytime that talent that I can’t remember the name of procs and gives you back combo points for using between the eyes

uneven plume
#

Quick question, who is the top assas rogue that I can copy talents to start testing and simming?

plain moon
uneven plume
#

gotchya. Sub seems more inclined to perform at the top. Is this true?

#

compared to assas

#

im just debating which one to go for.

manic coral
#

i mean it depends on how good u are on each spec but generally sub

gilded oasis
little moth
#

whats better 2 time strike daggers at 483 or to craft 2 486 weapons

shy pecan
#

That's a sim angle

gaunt moat
#

Can't say for main hand for certain, but for offhand, defintely the timestrike

shy pecan
#

^

quiet oar
#

Inphamous

#

I like your name

shy pecan
#

Thanks

balmy condor
# shy pecan Thanks

on the hit cartoon network show ed, edd, and eddy, are you ed, edd, or eddy

blazing jewel
#

All of them

shy pecan
#

I was in HS when that show came out so never saw it 😐

balmy condor
#

oh so you're rolf

shy pecan
#

Well, started HS anyway

arctic hare
keen spruce
#

I have a confession

#

I put mayo on my grilled cheese

shy pecan
#

/ignore Shmeeps

keen spruce
#

cuz i was using parmesean and another hard cheese

shy pecan
#

Shit

keen spruce
#

and it didn't look like it was gonna be gooey enough

runic hinge
#

I’ll show you hard cheese hypergrab

#

Wait

shy pecan
blazing jewel
#

What did he mean by that

shy pecan
bright cipher
finite quarry
#

hey i just boosted a rogue. is this the best spec to learn with? for raid? i saw warcraft logs shown this as the best 1

#

i copied talents from wowhead, prob gonna just check an easy mode guide for now on icyviens or something. no tier or gear. wondering if its worth doing this for a beginner? mains an rdruid

#

i havent played rogue since cata during legendary daggers, i played outlaw before it was changed. so im kinda fully new at this

balmy condor
#

that's probably the best way to go about it

#

I mean you just gotta start somewhere

finite quarry
#

yah. is assassin a good spec for mythic fyrak

balmy condor
#

yeh

finite quarry
#

on mythic tindral rn as an rdruid but we have 2 rdruids and we cannot have 2 rdruids for fyrak so im either gonna sit myself or lvl a dps

#

i think ill try rogue lol

balmy condor
#

can play either sub or assa

#

sub being the "meta" choice

#

but it's kinda whatever

finite quarry
#

i see. rogues pump so i want to pump

#

prob cant pump at 170 ilvl tho

waxen oyster
#

everything kinda works for fyrak now

finite quarry
#

meh. boomkin is shown to be the weakest dps on it, while WW shows the top, at 50% more dps on average

#

i deff dont want to play the weakest dps on my off spec for my main

#

lol

waxen oyster
#

feral isnt bad

#

but all 3 rogue specs are good on fyrak

finite quarry
#

third weakest of all dps specs

#

feral aint much better and ive been boomy off spec currently

waxen oyster
#

tbh feral is big boss damage but you’d likely only run one druid for fyrak period

#

for buff

finite quarry
#

yeah. it sucks cuz we've ran like 5 druids most of the tier lmfao

#

guardian, 2 rdruids, boomy and feral. we got rid of boomy/feral, and stuck with guardian/2 rdruid for the last 6 weeks

waxen oyster
#

outlaw probably has the highest overall fyrak damage while sub has more boss

finite quarry
#

i miss my unlimited innervates, but now our guardian is having PC issues for tindral. it sucks cuz our top healers are us two rdruids doing 350k hps

#

hmm for all rogue specs, i assume all gear is the same

#

i could easily learn all specs

waxen oyster
#

well not all the same

finite quarry
#

i guess besides for stat prio>?

waxen oyster
#

trinkets are different

#

outlaw doesnt want on use stat trinkets

#

and ig diff mainhand

#

same offhand for all 3 specs though

finite quarry
#

i see

balmy condor
#

we had 3 druids on tindral

#

all feral

finite quarry
#

im tryna figure out which abilities is important for keybinds, the main keybinds, the occassional keybinds, the rare keybinds and which i should click.,..

#

im guessing i click on the poisons, or am i gonna need to apply them mid fight?

balmy condor
#

nah once an hour

finite quarry
#

alright. things like rare keybinds is my vanish , shadowmeld and stuff. hmm

balmy condor
#

vanish is a rotational cooldown

finite quarry
#

oh, damn alright

waxen oyster
#

yeah for all 3 specs

finite quarry
#

im lookiong at icy vien basic guide and i dont have half the abilities its talking about

balmy condor
#

that's probably cause you're like level 21

finite quarry
#

crimson tempest, fan of knives, etc

#

nah i just boosted to lvl 70

#

i did copy raid talents from wowhead tho

balmy condor
#

crimson tempest is a talent

#

fan of knives you definitely have lmao

finite quarry
#

oh i was looking at rogue only talents lol

#

not assassin

waxen oyster
#

sin you’re gonna want PI though

storm forum
#

new bug: boosting a rogue removes fan of knives from your spellbook

finite quarry
#

lol

waxen oyster
#

only rogue spec that cares about pi/lust

finite quarry
#

im kinda drunk and just half assing this setup right now. hardest part is setting everything up for me

waxen oyster
#

sub instead has a reliance on windfury totem

#

casual 13k dps loss not having

storm forum
#

Oh, weird news everyone, my hunters told our priest that they don't want PI so I have it again now....

finite quarry
#

as long as im good at this spec, my guild will give me anything i say

#

GM must of gave me 2.5mill total gold so far, paid my sub/transfer/etc lol

#

we have two enhance shamans so windfury is 100%. only one priest so ill try for that PI

#

why does prio list have 'Use Shiv Icon Shiv, Kingsbane Icon Kingsbane, Vanish Icon Vanish, and Deathmark Icon Deathmark on cooldown.' as the fourth thing

#

i guess im looking at basic shit, doesnt show why id use vanish

strange trail
finite quarry
#

yah

#

easy build

waxen oyster
#

vanish is just used for master assassin buff

#

on the last 3 ticks of kingsbane

finite quarry
#

what abilities should i add to my stealth hm

#

i just noticed it has a whole new bar

waxen oyster
#

sin is basically do burst windows every min

#

with the 2 min intervals being larger

gilded oasis
# finite quarry what abilities should i add to my stealth hm

ambush, garrote shroud sap.. last two not really for raid but oh well.. then i put regular things that are on my non-stealth bar like my shadow step and feint and kick and shiv happen to be on the bar that changes so I have it on stealth bar and non-stealth bar

finite quarry
#

hmm ok thanks

#

am i missing anything lol

waxen oyster
#

i mean most abilities you put on regular bars

#

that work in both

finite quarry
#

havent used all my keybinds yet, but ill need to actually play the class to get used to it

#

still need a spot for health stone / health pot

#

oh damn shiv is one of my main CDs? just noticed

spice spire
waxen oyster
#

rotational for sin

#

utility button for the other two

#

i say utility when sub and outlaw dont take it half the time

finite quarry
#

ill have to wait til im sober before i try to learn this

#

crazy how im able to flawlessly play at a 90%+ percentile level on fights like m tindral while blackout drunk

#

but my ability to learn something new is worst than a casual tryna add 2+2

#

i feel so dumb tryna learn

haughty crest
#

is there a minimum amount of haste i want to aim for before just going into mast and crit

spice spire
#

No

#

Just follow ur sims

gilded oasis
#

sorry was that too many words?

runic hinge
gilded oasis
#

tru

#

4 words or less

shy pecan
#

🙂

gilded oasis
#

@spice spire I pugged 2 keys are you proud of me uncle

finite quarry
#

any weakaura packsa for tracking my bleeds

balmy condor
#

imma call quake unc from now on

spice spire
#

AIGHT nephew

shy pecan
#

Uncle Quake

balmy condor
#

in the way that we're both talented but I'm going to die

#

in game

#

please

spice spire
#

Never mind

#

Not here

shy pecan
drifting cloud
balmy condor
#

my onlyfans

shy heron
#

I don't know if I can trust a sin rogue OF because exsang might be involved

earnest remnant
icy acorn
#

and not this one

spice spire
finite quarry
#

anyone want to watch me do a normal tindral and let me kno what im messing up for my rotation

#

i only did 46k on n smold

earnest remnant
spice spire
#

Blud I’m just yapping

gilded oasis
spice spire
#

?

gilded oasis
#

Just be proud of me auntie

bronze pike
#

:catattack:

spice spire
gilded oasis
spice spire
#

I’m sorry

#

I hope tomorrow is a good day

gilded oasis
#

Lots of food I'm gonna be fat

spice spire
#

Same homie

#

Enjoy it SoCute

gilded oasis
runic hinge
#

My gf's mom is making us food, she doesnt even watch, she just likes to cook

gilded oasis
#

Your mother

spice spire
balmy condor
spice spire
#

Nice

runic hinge
balmy condor
runic hinge
silk bane
blazing jewel
rotund oak
#

or maybe u do monkascheme

quiet oar
#

On whisps only Fans, you can See the murloc gif

#

Its now behind a paywall

rotund oak
#

he's such a liar

flint gulch
#

which build needs the least amount of buttons?

woeful meteor
#

same amount for all

#

m+ builds without CT have 1 less and you can cope that builds without Blindside have 1 less as well

pseudo hamlet
#

I think that with Blindside you actually have the same amount of buttons because it changes mutilate to ambush

woeful meteor
#

I have ambush and mutilate on different buttons to avoid stance delay

#

but I guess with the blindside change and if you don't care about stance delay it's same buttons

flint gulch
#

i tried play sub but i seem to lack the apm

hollow dirge
gusty mirage
halcyon silo
#

Didn't haste use to be good for Assassination? What changed?

gaunt sigil
#

Having 300 energy and all your damage being in KB

#

My sims sit me around 27% haste but I have myth cataclysmic which bumps up haste value

halcyon silo
#

So with less energy haste would be a bit more valuable?

gusty mirage
halcyon silo
#

Just not as good as it used to be right?

gusty mirage
#

Well with the rework the secondaries got even closer than they were before, so I guess so? I guess I'm not sure what we're referring to when we say "used to be"

#

Energy amount has very little to do with how useful haste is, because you need an obscene amount of haste to even notice a dent in energy regen

gusty mirage
#

I'd say it's just as important as it was in bfa

#

whereas in SL it was kinda whatever

#

current assassination is actually kinda silly how close all 4 secondaries are

#

which is why you probably see a lot of people with a more even distribution than previous tiers

halcyon silo
#

That could be it.

gusty mirage
#

It's a collaboration of what the rework brought, most of assa's damage is kingsbane windows which bumps up mastery, and every kingsbane window is during shadow dance which gives you Master Assassin which brings down crit's value a bit

#

also using branch brings down the emphasis of stacking mastery because it just gives you an obscene amount of mastery

#

which brings up the value of vers, as well as Signet brand scaling off of vers

gaunt sigil
#

Yeah all my secondaries are pretty close all things considered

turbid harbor
#

Or use ashes instead of branch and your character will be hungry for mastery

royal lantern
#

its not "haste is bad" its "all 4 stats are good for assa overall, and some items push it more into 1 direction"

#

aka, you are using haste enchants? haste as a "normal" stat will lose some value

#

you are using branch? same with mastery

past forum
dapper moat
#

!wa

limber lion
#

Lust definitely feels like a massive OK TIME TO BLAST thingy whenever you play a caster

royal lantern
limber lion
#

whereas for us it's the same and nothing changes at all

#

cool we get more energy sick

#

meanwhile fire mage apm 150 next to me

#

jumping around

runic hinge
past forum
#

Alternatively, when it’s incorp week and you’re a sub rogue….

dapper moat
#

!wa

flint gulch
#

What would Assa need do equal damage to Sub?

orchid pewter
#

Pi

keen spruce
#

@desert inlet

#

I found a competitor

#

for shower orange

desert inlet
#

no contest

#

me stick to orange

keen spruce
quiet oar
#

Im still not sure

#

how endwyr made the orange float

desert inlet
#

🪄

dark token
#

what about shower coffee Hmm

keen spruce
#

shower coffee goodge

#

evening shower beer better

quiet oar
#

oof

quiet oar
desert inlet
#

umm

#

it was a scroll

quiet oar
keen spruce
#

aroma of meat very good

#

steam carry more aroma

#

more meat aroma

quiet oar
#

Nah i meant how it looks

keen spruce
#

oh yeah looks like he doin this in his grandma's house or something

#

i just stumbled across the picture i didn't whip up a tomahawk for a meme

strange python
#

i started to play assassination can someone help with some macros ?

#

am new to rouge anyways so it seems to have too much buttons to press xD

limber lion
#

Assa doesn't need macros

#

There's no good ones

unique plume
#

Ermmmm mouseover blind hello?

#

/cast [@mouseover] Blind

balmy condor
#

please keep useless pvp opinions contained within the hazmat area of #pvp thank you

royal lantern
#

thats it

strange python
grim tree
#

Sandglass 489 ashes 483 brnch 483 what would you choose?

limber lion
#

glass and farm branch

royal lantern
dark token
#

If you have a signet use that for fyrakk as well over sandglass

royal lantern
#

ye, signet aswell for fyraak

#

long fight and it builds the stacks during p1 where dmg is w/e anyway, and then does full dmg during the pahases where it actually matters

#

damm

#

my S key is kinda broken

royal lantern
#

ssssssssssssssssssss

#

bruh

#

ye its broken kekdog

rotund oak
dapper moat
#

hello all. Was thinking is there any WA or addon that adds movable icons of skills to your screen to track better what skill is there ready to cast? I know many wa's have that feature build inside but kinda looking single skills eith larger box that can be moved anywhere in your screen. Many thanks. 🙂

grim tree
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
spice spire
#

I think this is along the lines of what you’re asking

#

But I’m not 1000% sure!

small nacelle
#

what are you guys doing with your extra sparks and crests?

#

oops wrong chata

royal lantern
#

nothing else really to do with them

#

made myself a 1h sword for outlaw that i will never use cus fuck DF outlaw dracthyr_kek

clever sapphire
#

im not doin anything with spark cause it costs me gold to do anything with it

royal lantern
#

perks of having BS maxed i gues, didnt really cost me anything peeposhrug

clever sapphire
#

fair point

#

im too lazy for any proper job

#

i have enchanting for crests and alchemy for flask

royal lantern
#

eh, did blacksmith at expac launch for weapons, cus small blades more or less covered allmost all classes/specs in the game

#

agility daggers/int daggers/agility 1h fists/strenght 1h fists

#

during the first tier, like 60% of the raid had a weapon made by me, and then just did the rest

#

+could make some gold with it early on

#

later that stopped cus automated bot/addon spam just took over way to hard, so its w/e now peeposhrug sometimes craft stuff for people that ask for some bs things and thats it, no reason to use the tradechat when im drowned out by 10 people spamming the chat with 20 different characters at once

austere sorrel
#

Anyone else hate spiteful in this spec?

spice spire
#

No

#

More pad gromCHAD

clever sapphire
royal lantern
#

he called me smart

dark token
#

So it perma slow them and they can't do shit

austere sorrel
#

Then again I only do like 18-20s so higher keys maybe there is no downtime anyway between packs, so y'all are used to it?

shy pecan
#

!restealth

prisma monolithBOT
#

Long In-depth explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:
https://youtu.be/DoZDPFk_Zog
The TLDW (I understand, it's LONG):

  • Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
  • This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths
  • You still have vanish and in 10.2, shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
  • This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years
dark token
#

Or I play sub and use the shades to funnel more combo points and don't need restealths

jaunty warren
#

My frustration with spiteful was reduced after understanding the restealth thing. For me the pain of spiteful is when all the mobs insta-die and now I am in melee range of 3+ mobs who can one shot kill me.

spice spire
#

Press evasion

#

And let Jesus take the wheel

#

Amen

vestal wren
spice surge
#

Spiteful actually doesnt hit hard this season

#

Each hit is like 250k or something, so you can tank a lot of hits

arctic hare
royal lantern
#

cus evasion is actually a good deff cd with elusivness

#

dont want it on cd kekman

grim tree
#

30 critical 20% haste 64 mastery is that okay?

mortal badger
#

yes

#

or maybe no

limber lion
#

yes

#

anything between 0-100% is good

grim tree
#

Mmm obvio

spice spire
#

Specific stat points mean nothing.
Just sim ur character

shy pecan
#

🙂

royal python
#

Hey guys, on smolderon if you open with DM n kb , do you hold on to kb for the first intermission or use on cd

royal lantern
#

use dm on cd

#

it will align with the 3rd intermission phase that way, and thats also where your raid is gonna use hero

royal lantern
#

!wa

maiden rover
#

@spice spire

spice spire
#

Going to post mine in the right place like a good cf

#

Hold

gilded oasis
#

ok suck up

spice spire
#

?

gilded oasis
#

using channels for their intended purpose

spice spire
#

Why r u such a hater man

gilded oasis
#

keeps my blood pumpin

maiden rover
#

This ain’t meme channel #73?

gilded oasis
#

Guess not Catastrophe_angry

#

and I cant post food in the pet channel!?

runic hinge
#

Don't worry I backed you up on that one

gilded oasis
#

ty bud

storm forum
#

I wish my food looked good

gilded oasis
#

I have so many dishes crycat

spice spire
#

Same

spice spire
#

But it was good stuff

storm forum
#

Hell yeah

hearty reef
#

hello? sin buffs?

storm forum
#

I'm getting baited to check the wowhead channel aren't I

hearty reef
#

dont feel baited, theres a ? there not a !

#

nothing on wowhead

gilded oasis
#

yea im buff swoleleft zar swoleright

storm forum
#

Ok

#

We're mid, but with PI I'm top boss damage even with spatter and on pulls that wipe before execute. I don't think we're getting buffs.

royal python
spice spire
#

I’ve been buffed since I stopped playing rogue tbh

gilded oasis
#

I can bench press you

#

fr fr

spice spire
#

I don’t think that’s true homie

#

But I can bench you

#

Possibly 2 of some people here

#

The short term goal is two @gusty mirage

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

By the end of the year

#

I’ll bench double your body weight ReallyMad

gusty mirage
#

brother

#

whats your current bench

dark token
gusty mirage
#

because holy fuck

spice spire
#

I was able to rep 305 like 4/5 times

#

Idk what max is

#

Haven’t gone for max

gusty mirage
#

you might be able to max double my body weight now brother

spice spire
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Oh on god? PogO

gusty mirage
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I'm a very fluffy 180 rn

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we working on the last 10-15lbs

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gonna get SHREDDED

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and then bang your dad

spice spire
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Gl he just got a new boo thing

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Yeah I don’t think I can get 360 yet

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I think 350 if I’m feeling frisky

gusty mirage
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by the end of the year I'll be losing more weight

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so

spice spire
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But I’ll get there

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Ye

gusty mirage
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just need winter to be over

spice spire
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Goal is 365 by end of year

gusty mirage
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16 hours on the golf course a week will help shred the last bit

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WALKING ONLY

spice spire
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Summer basketball

runic hinge
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2 weeks from today I'll be in florida playing 36 holes

spice spire
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First time in over a decade so I’m gonna be shit but w/e

spice spire
runic hinge
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YES

spice spire
raven flower
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Is the spec that low APM that even golf enjoyers roll it

runic hinge
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Yes but Oxi plays sub

ember mural
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*prot

gusty mirage
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I'm a man of many talents

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none of them are particularly great talents

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but talents nonetheless

runic hinge
# gusty mirage I'm a man of many talents

I've been using a champ level nick off hand this whole time because I have done 40 runs and haven't seen a hero track, did an 18 fall today for my 1 key this week and got it. How's that for talent?

blazing jewel
gusty mirage
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how's that for talent

gusty mirage
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yesterday was not that day

blazing jewel
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idk who raal is

gusty mirage
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pig boss

blazing jewel
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or what you pulled

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oh lol

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that was funny

runic hinge
gusty mirage
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the pack in the far corner next to him

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the splash damage

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pulled raal

blazing jewel
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sub in keys feels so bad

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its a punishment

gusty mirage
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you were fuckin'

blazing jewel
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2 for 1 punishment

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sub in keys and doing keys

gusty mirage
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I do it to remind myself what it feels like to be alive

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although ret in keys is kinda fun

blazing jewel
gusty mirage
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you always have damage cuz 1 minute class