#assassination

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gaunt moat
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Tyran the ubermensch

spice spire
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False bestie

gaunt moat
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Top 3 parses on smolderon use ashes
top 3 on tindral use ashes
top 6 on fyrakk use ashes

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Don't be a slave to the sim!

glossy imp
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Tbh I agree with notter bois

maiden rover
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Quakes a slave to him

royal lantern
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gotta be actually insane (like quake) too use branch on tindral

gaunt moat
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Gotta be deranged to use branch anywhere
it SUCKS

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imagine trying to pick up half invisible tiny balls in the middle of a fight
who would do such a thing

spice spire
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Figure seven left figure seven right

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Stand still

quiet oar
spice spire
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Real

quiet oar
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Not playing = not using branch

gaunt moat
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Quake playing both sides

spice spire
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I am American after all

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It’s what we do best

thorn fjord
sweet zealot
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if I wanna sim gear for sin in council fight, whats better, 2 bosses or 3?

fervent ermine
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Ive seen the wowhead info on stat prio, what would be best as far as percentages go? like if you hit 60% mastery stop and focus x same for others. TY

royal lantern
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thats when you won

spice spire
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I’m up

prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

magic meadow
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Are there any changes to IC yet? It would be great if at least Rupture is assigned to all targets instead of just 2 like Primal Wrath from Feral.

royal lantern
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?

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its dots on 3 targets for 8 seconds lol

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how much more do you need

magic meadow
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Well all the enemies in the melee area logically... like I said in Primal Wrath.

royal lantern
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yeha, but IC is not primal wrath

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primal wrath is a finisher

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IC is passive

magic meadow
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rupture is also a finisher that isnt a argument..

royal lantern
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mate, you get out 8-9 bleeds in 3gcds with IC without even swapping targets in the first place

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idk how much more you want lol

magic meadow
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well i must still tab target others the problem with IC is that you don't see directly which mob has rupture

spice surge
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Correct, part of multidotting is actually dotting multiple targets

royal lantern
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and in m+, 90% of the packs are dead before your rupture runs out

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so idk, you dont need rupture on all enemys anyway, rupture doesnt do that much dmg

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you can just garrote-garrote-rupture 1 guy from the pull, and now you have 5 garrotes and 3 ruptures out allready

spice surge
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And ye it would be easier if it just applied it to every target

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But that would also mean rupture would be weaker

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To compensate

royal lantern
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^

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or IC just gets a CD again

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cus IC would be op otherwhise

spice surge
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Its the gameplay loop theyve chosen for most dot specs for them to be better in m+, but im not a fan since it makes pretty much all of the dots do 0 damage

royal lantern
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"true" dot specs dont exist anymore in wow

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"dot spec" in wow rn just means "you apply dots that are an engine for other stuff"

spice surge
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And then they just slap physic link ontop of it and call it a day

vestal wren
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subtlety uses rupture more than assassination ^^

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just my 2c

spice surge
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It also does more damage as sub, esp in m+ with dark brew kekman

royal lantern
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ye cus finality and tierset are wonky

royal lantern
royal lantern
royal lantern
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that cus the full picture is "sub has multiple dmg amps that make you re-apply it over and over again"

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which is like.....yeha ofc its used more often that way

near valley
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@royal lantern what's the story with this pfp?

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Ur lizard became a dragon

royal lantern
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why does every pfp i take need a story?

near valley
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Fair

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You just keep yours for a long period of time usually

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If this was Scana I wouldn't ask

royal lantern
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friend gave me a cool dragon plush for christmas, big brother wanted to know where its from, that pic came up when i searched the name, thought it was cool

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thats the "story" i gues

near valley
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Free lore

vestal wren
thorn fjord
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Think blizzard will ever realize the majority of the player base hates PI?

runic hinge
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No

thorn fjord
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They’re fucking tone deaf lol

limber lion
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I honestly think the majority likes it which is why they're pushing it so hard

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Majority being ultra casuals

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who never step inside a mythic raid or clear heroic

thorn fjord
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Yeah

limber lion
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But yeah, I just hate how they don't consider skill expression in their design as much as they used to

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You can't tell if you're getting better or not

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with all the externals and rng in the game

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One pull you do 250k dps, the next you do 180k

runic hinge
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I think they also wanna keep the rpg fantasy of buffing your allies in battle as opposed to just doing raid wide buffs before pull

limber lion
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did you play that much worse?

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Probably not, just unlucky rng and no externals

thorn fjord
limber lion
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Scroll down a bit more

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That's not even the bad part

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This is the bad part

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Low chance to proc PI on 2 extra targets

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So extra phys/magic dam, 12% haste on 1 target with a chance to proc it on 2 extra tragets

thorn fjord
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So funky

limber lion
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50s cd as well

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very... interesting to say the least.

thorn fjord
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Wonder what the priest minimum will be for raid comps

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In the hof bracket

runic hinge
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6

keen spruce
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I don't even know casual players that like PI

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i'm not s aying they don't exist

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but i have never met a single person

limber lion
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4 Oracles and pray that you proc the "low chance" on pull with all 4 PI's

keen spruce
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that likes PI

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or it's design

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even in theory

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the giga casuals don't even know how twin moons works

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and don't use it on other people

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the kind-of-casuals hate getting yelled at by people about it

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the not-casuals all hate it

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actually just the scourge of class balance

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last tier I hate it because I can't compete with uhdks and warlocks

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this tier i hate it because my spec gets shot in the kneecaps

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and i can't play w/o a priest

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priests hate getting bothered about it

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RLs hate people complaining about it

thorn fjord
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It’s a shit experience for most involved lol

keen spruce
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i have friends that barely get KSM by the end of the season

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or prog heroic smolderon

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and they all hate it

clever sapphire
limber lion
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Yeah idk man

clever sapphire
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also the fact thats its a proc is so cool

limber lion
clever sapphire
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"why did i do 20k dps less this pull?"
Priest goes: "ye i only procced my buff 3 times and it only went on you 2 times because i couldnt hug your butt all fight long sorry bro"

keen spruce
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i mean none of the pople i'm talking about are priests

limber lion
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But pretty doggiedog design when the player who plays the spec gets shit that they hate

keen spruce
limber lion
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Idk who you're friends with but I've met dozens of casuals who love PI

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Like legit you go to any normal raid

royal lantern
limber lion
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and everyone goes wild about pi

royal lantern
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aug is a different beasst cus aug is braindead and does everything by itself

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but pi?

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pi is not

keen spruce
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I mean yeah in a world where PI exists. everyone WANTS the PI that already is in the game

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but they dont WANT PI to exist in the first place

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well i'm sure some people do

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i'm just saying i haven't met them

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at all levels

limber lion
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I have a friend who literally saves all cooldowns in Mythic+ for the "big packs" with 5+ mobs even if they're fodder that die in 5s just because he doesn't know better and just goes monkey brain ook ook big dps for one pack

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then they sit at less than 100k dps overall

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and he goes feral for pi

clever sapphire
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also doesnt that talent limit pi targets even more? Since its either physical or magic dmg you wont be getting it unless you like haste aaaaaand you are either doing physical/magical dmg mostly

royal lantern
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(thats a joke, sorry)

limber lion
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But yeah, it's terrible design and I hate it and I have no idea why they're pushing it so hard

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They know that a lot of the community despises it and they've had to make blue posts regarding PI and externals in the past

keen spruce
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yeah idk i feel like casuals would also be the ones that wouldn't notice/care if it was gone

limber lion
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I legitimately thought that Dragonflight would be the end of PI, they would see the problems with it and just remove it

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and add all the power and external shit to Aug instead

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but I stand corrected

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I guess

keen spruce
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It's just so de-motivating

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to not be able to evaluate your own performance

royal lantern
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yep

limber lion
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They made a post in Dragonflight about PI because obviously we were getting Augmentation and we didn't know about it back then, so makes sense

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but it just doesn't work

keen spruce
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without like 7000 *

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or hours of log review

manic coral
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god bless i managed to gaslight myself into pi again

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stay hard

limber lion
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Same with all the GIGA rng things

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Like Sophic Devotion

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You proc Sophic on pull with cds, you do 250k dps

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You have low uptime on Sophic, you do less than 200k

keen spruce
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yeah i have to add like 8 filters

limber lion
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Did you play SO MUCH WORSE that you did 50k less dps

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nope

keen spruce
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to my logs to see if I actually did well or if I'm getting carried by procs

limber lion
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you just got unlucky with procs

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gg

keen spruce
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or i have to go line by line on the cast timeline

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to make sure I'm playing correctly

clever sapphire
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tbh im not against rng, if its rng to react to (ambush r.i.p, outlaws current bte procs and whatnot)

limber lion
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No of course not

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RPG's are tied to rng very heavily

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And always will be

keen spruce
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well procs like that are fine because over an entire dungeon or raid encounter

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the rng evens out

limber lion
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RPG's are literally the genre that made the concept of RNG

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With DnD

keen spruce
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and you won't have enormous high rolls or low rols

royal lantern
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what i think is funny, soooo many games go back from the "buff others" trend, cus it becomes a big problem that makes everything weird

and wow just deep dives into it and we get told "we know what we are doing, trust us!!!" (classes get balanced around externals and then suck without them, hooks not working for ages etc....)

keen spruce
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that impact your performance in a huge way

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but like look at logs from last tier

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it was just "sophic uptime gg"

limber lion
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But it shouldn't be a 20% difference in dps whether you got unlucky or lucky

keen spruce
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for like half othe logs reviews

limber lion
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Seal Fate, good

keen spruce
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"hey I thought i played well but i only 82 parsed?"

limber lion
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Blindside procs, good

royal lantern
# limber lion With DnD

i mean, you work very hard around the rng in dnd

like, a good character has almost 0 rng involved in dnd

keen spruce
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sophic missed your deathmark gg

limber lion
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Anyways

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This is fucking sick

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Hopefully the classes get more effects like these.

royal lantern
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frostfire mage is the only tree that looks actually good

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all the others are just either dogshit

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or 100% passive stuff with no thoughts involved

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lol

limber lion
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Yeah, wouldn't be surprised if Assassination falls in the latter category

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Or whatever it's called

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Deathstalker

desert inlet
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your crits can megacrit

royal lantern
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i take passive shit over stuff that creates shity gameplay hustles for no reason except "xdddd so unique!!!!1111!!!"

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nah, deathstalker is 100% gonna be stealth related

limber lion
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Probs, could still be 100% passive

royal lantern
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aka the "shadowdance/vanish are stronger cd's now and probs have cdr in some form" tree

limber lion
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And the outlaw one tied to energy and/or procs

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Yep maybe

royal lantern
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like

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its outlaw

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what is energy for outlaw

limber lion
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Exactly

royal lantern
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like

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outlaw is SUCH A GOOD DESINGED SPEC that you could remove the yellow bar and nothing would change at all

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so idk about energy there

limber lion
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I'm not talking about "get more energy :)"

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I'm talking about uses for energy

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more ways to generate, more ways to use energy

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we want energy, outlaw has a bunch of it

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combine em

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but yeh we'll see

royal lantern
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first change the name

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what the fuck is FATEBOUND

clever sapphire
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your fate is bound to be external dependant

royal lantern
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deathstalker is some 2007 edgelord shit, but atleast it somewhat fits

clever sapphire
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bam

royal lantern
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but what the hell is fatebound

limber lion
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Shoulda called it Gambler

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:---------)

desert inlet
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idk rogue is pretty fatebound

limber lion
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Gamba Rogue

clever sapphire
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deathmark is now a proc that can only happen once every minute

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gl hf

royal lantern
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trickster is 100% gonna be cdr stuff

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cus thats 1 thing outlaw and sub have in common

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have fun with more spreadsheet gaming subs

limber lion
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Fatebound as a name does sounds scary

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Does sound like super passive rng

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just going off of the name

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Every single branch in the tree is just "You have a low chance to ..."

spice spire
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Kinda

desert inlet
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rng and externals make the game sooo fun

clever sapphire
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and now they made an rng external dracthyr_sip

royal lantern
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i somewhat think its funny how the reaction from hero trees went from "oh, cool idea, lets see how it goes" to "oh man..........." after they sshowed us the first set

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cus more or less everyone is tired of the shit allready

limber lion
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"You have a low chance to proc Adrenaline Rush, Vendetta, Shadow Blades, Deathmark, Combustion, Convoke the Spirits or Berserk. You have an extremely low chance to proc all of these effects together."

clever sapphire
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the one who made the priest tree must be an uhdk player

tawny bloom
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how come fyrakk is nerfed like this and not just make the meteors a range only mechanic.

royal lantern
thorn fjord
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I am not caught up with any of this class specific stuff

royal lantern
thorn fjord
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Straight to the moon if they all proc together

royal lantern
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I LOVE EXTERNALS I LOVE EXTERNALS I LOVE EXTERNALS

clever sapphire
gaunt sigil
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I am just hoping Assa has a hero talent that says “you don’t rely purely on KB anymore”

royal lantern
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yeha sure

desert inlet
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it won't

royal lantern
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right after the talent that says "sub and outlaw dont play like shit anymore"

clever sapphire
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im betting on the assa/sub talents being some shittery where you will snapshot your kb with even more abilities

desert inlet
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they'll double down on it if anything

limber lion
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"Kingsbane now starts at 99 stacks and gets reduced everytime you poison the target"

desert inlet
limber lion
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press kb go afk

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sounds good

desert inlet
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I don't even wanna ask when the next rework is

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because I'm sure it'll be worse

royal lantern
# limber lion press kb go afk

isnt that just kb rn?

press kb, do the static kb rotation, then go to sleep cus the shit outside of kb doesnt really matter anyway

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repeat

gaunt sigil
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Real

royal lantern
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i love all my dmg beeing a single ability

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like man, kb doing dmg, sure its cool

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kb beeing the entire spec? urgh

thorn fjord
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I LOVE pooling energy

limber lion
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Delete Kingsbane, bring back 5s 100% Master Assassin

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Ty

desert inlet
thorn fjord
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Kb isn’t the problem

royal lantern
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^

thorn fjord
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Tier set is

desert inlet
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it is

royal lantern
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kb is good, its just too dominant rn

clever sapphire
thorn fjord
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It was a fun button to press

waxen oyster
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i mean the real external andys of df have been priest healers

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asking for every external in the game

royal lantern
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the thing we all said will happen if they allow kb+dtb to be picked at the same time

and suprise suprise, it happend, kb is the entire spec now

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and nothing else matters

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dots? just for resources

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envenom? lol

gaunt sigil
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The tier set just exaggerates the problem

royal lantern
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energy managment? we talk about it all the time, but that shit ALSO doesnt really matter in reality

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its all just "press kb with everything stacked"

thorn fjord
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I’d rather be full unga bunga and send Env whenever possible than have to worry about keeping the dot up for tier

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I think the decision was a bad one

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I get that we spin plates

limber lion
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Huh

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Okay it's starting to smell a bit

thorn fjord
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I don’t like the tier interaction

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Def a personal take

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But I don’t think it’s a hot one

royal lantern
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cus like

desert inlet
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I like the envenom uptime gameplay

waxen oyster
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i mean unga bunga send buttons theres a spec for that

royal lantern
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envenom uptime is high anyway

desert inlet
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I hate that all of our damage is in an rng cd

gaunt sigil
slate crown
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"Fatebound" - Imo this can also read that we as the rogues bind our victims' fates. Maybe my comprehension is weird, but the idea of like lining up 20 separate dots on a target is, while not killing them immediately, is sentencing them to death, thus binding their fate. Idn. It can be read the other way as well peeposhrug

clever sapphire
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the tierset is fun, the kingsbane kingdom gets kinda meh overtime

limber lion
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I never understood the ooga booga Envenom gameplay

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Idk how anyone can find spamming 1111111111111111111 without any thought and finishing with Envenom when you're max cap

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over and over

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any fun

thorn fjord
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You’re a thinker tho

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I’m not lmao

limber lion
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Fair enough

desert inlet
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play fury

royal lantern
royal lantern
thorn fjord
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Hell nah

desert inlet
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fury fun

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push button

thorn fjord
limber lion
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Okay what is the best iteration of Assassination

desert inlet
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Sepulcher

limber lion
royal lantern
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but hard to say

thorn fjord
clever sapphire
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maybe i was too dumb yet, but sepulcher was the most fun for me cause i was switching around venthyr/nf/necro all the time and was still doing good dmg

royal lantern
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i like the current assa in theory, but it just gets old with all dmg beeing KB all the time

thorn fjord
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S2 sin last expansion was amazing

royal lantern
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also somewhat like abberus assa tbh

keen spruce
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i didn't play after nathria but I was very happy at the end of 9.0 when they made assas do more than 60% of the damage of a normal dps

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maybe not the best interation

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but certainly the most joyous time for me

woeful meteor
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they deleted subcreation gladge @balmy condor

gaunt sigil
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My problem is you can press KB and see the same damage in your opener as just a normal KB purely from crit rng

thorn fjord
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Eternal palace sin was great too

royal lantern
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for the other specs its easy, i liked SL S1/S4 outlaw, and WoD Hellfire Sub

limber lion
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So same shit

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Don't get jebaited

woeful meteor
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it redirects to archon now PepeLaugh

balmy condor
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

royal lantern
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wow, they made whisp actually pissed

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thats a hard one

limber lion
clever sapphire
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mr whispyr, subcreation says assa rogue C tier, is it playable or do i have to play S tier outlaw?

limber lion
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I was not a fan of Double Dose Mutilate Envenom gameplay

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I'm a dot boy

limber lion
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It was super slow and boring

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and tied to Mutilate/Envenom, just not a fan

agile geode
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sin right now is great

thorn fjord
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Tomb sin was god awful

balmy condor
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Having to pick between archon and subcreation is like having to choose which incurable cancer you want

limber lion
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I started in Antorus so I couldn't tell ya

agile geode
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if only we could get our 3% dmg nerf back

thorn fjord
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Antorus sin was based

waxen oyster
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i mean ooga booga mash gameplay exists

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its called outlaw

limber lion
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Antorus Sin without the Poison Bomb

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potential

desert inlet
limber lion
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yucky

desert inlet
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:(

gaunt sigil
limber lion
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I loved Sepulcher so much, I had r1 on every boss on every difficulty

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very degen

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loved it

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But it was awful in mythic+

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we can all agree on that

tawny bloom
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just revert all sin nerfs this tier and just nerf/remove pi instead

waxen oyster
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also

tawny bloom
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fixed

thorn fjord
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I had third in sausage for a bit

royal lantern
waxen oyster
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crit corruptions nyalotha sin

royal lantern
desert inlet
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watching my rygelon mfd abuse vod

desert inlet
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I miss her

waxen oyster
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was more fun than turbo garrote

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imo

limber lion
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I'm talking gameplay wise

gaunt sigil
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Externals are literally ruining specs

limber lion
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not numbers wise

gaunt sigil
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Look at unholy

clever sapphire
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i miss mfd

limber lion
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I really liked MFD once I started to use it actively

desert inlet
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yeah numbers wise it was stinky but I played it anyway

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I liked it

waxen oyster
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mfd always felt more like an outlaw talent

thorn fjord
clever sapphire
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it was straightup jsut a fun talent

keen spruce
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I think right now is best m+ iteration of assas

desert inlet
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I disagree

thorn fjord
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But I’d take that gameplay back over this in a heartbeat

keen spruce
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did not like BFA

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assas

limber lion
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I also disagree, I think CT ST is fine. If there's a reason for it, other than just "maybe does 0.001% more damage than Envenom"

vital haven
waxen oyster
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bfa?

limber lion
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Like CT contributing to the tier set and flag and whatnot, liked it

waxen oyster
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you mean outlaw expansion?

thorn fjord
waxen oyster
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wits go brrr

royal lantern
keen spruce
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yeah i mean you're comparing

vital haven
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sin in bfa was pretty compretitive to outlaw

keen spruce
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like 2-3 seasons tops

clever sapphire
gusty mirage
vital haven
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not nearly as popular but it was competitive

waxen oyster
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yeah then s4 came

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and you just existed to press gouge

thorn fjord
waxen oyster
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for fire mage overlord

thorn fjord
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For that play affli

vital haven
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well ye i mean cant win em all lol

desert inlet
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I beat our fire mage a lot as sin in our S4 key group

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but maybe skill issue

clever sapphire
gaunt sigil
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I never played Assa until S1 DF so I don’t know this older stuff TR3_cry

gusty mirage
limber lion
clever sapphire
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you just have more dots, but your dmg is still not in the dots

gusty mirage
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(Tryan just felt a pain in his heart)

limber lion
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I would love to maintain CT instead of mindlessly pressing Envenom

waxen oyster
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i mean, has mage ever had a bad season

thorn fjord
waxen oyster
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where they dont get mid season buffed

gusty mirage
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yes

vital haven
gusty mirage
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wait you said season

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no

thorn fjord
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Also I miss our old ER

waxen oyster
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7 defensives

gusty mirage
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seasons didn't exist in classic

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unlucky

waxen oyster
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move while casting

keen spruce
thorn fjord
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Er is not a bad button to press

vital haven
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ye it was like you and ryfie

gusty mirage
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if you actively support full expedient, galecaller's, exsang garbage from s4 I'm unfriending you

slate crown
waxen oyster
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didnt everyone play crit corruptions in dungeons

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as sin

desert inlet
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no galecaller's

#

plumage + vita shard

vital haven
#

most fun i had with sin sorry

gusty mirage
royal lantern
#

IM HERE OXI

gusty mirage
#

LOL TRYAN

#

I LOVE YOU

thorn fjord
#

Boon coming back s4

gusty mirage
#

wrong boon brother

runic hinge
#

I played a tiny bit of sin in s4 SL but it was too big brain for me then

clever sapphire
desert inlet
#

this me

gusty mirage
#

exsang sucks, exsang sucks, exsang sucks, exsang sucks

limber lion
#

It's so pretty. In an ideal world I would have loved for Vanish to do something else than just proc MA. Like imagine now with all the snapshots and IG/SS. Flag, Vanish, MFD, Rup, Gar, CT, Vendetta, Shiv

gusty mirage
#

I'll say it

#

you don't have to

waxen oyster
#

galecaller's was beans

gusty mirage
#

but that was the tech for big exsangs

vital haven
gusty mirage
#

cause it snapshotted

waxen oyster
#

i had a max one with socket

limber lion
waxen oyster
#

and still beans

limber lion
#

Got a plume from the weekly box

#

Was a very pogchamp moment

thorn fjord
#

Nice

limber lion
#

No vault back then

desert inlet
limber lion
#

Just a random item out of the entire pool

gusty mirage
waxen oyster
#

i think i used pvp on use

gusty mirage
#

was very pogchamp

waxen oyster
#

for fights gale was ass on

gusty mirage
#

I wanted to pog a sludgehammer into my skull

thorn fjord
#

Bro life before vault was rough

desert inlet
#

the mydas talisman existed in bfa to dilute the loot pool

waxen oyster
#

for some reason that trinket was tuned slightly higher

#

than plume

#

the pvp vers on use

desert inlet
#

I already wanted to commit after getting badge for my mage

gusty mirage
#

the pvp on use trinket was kinda bonkers

desert inlet
#

wasn't gonna pvp any more

gusty mirage
#

that was fire mage's bis

#

lmao

waxen oyster
#

no i mean

#

the 2min cd one

#

not the 1min

gusty mirage
#

ya

royal lantern
gusty mirage
#

oh

royal lantern
#

🙂

gusty mirage
#

that one

waxen oyster
#

fire wanted the 1min one yeah

gusty mirage
#

people crying about on-use trinkets in DF don't remember having to pre-channel font of power

#

and it shows

waxen oyster
#

i had a friend who made over 2mil gold between bfa s4/s1

waxen oyster
#

selling 2s carries for that trinket

desert inlet
#

had a weakaura that said ME FONT

gusty mirage
desert inlet
#

and if someone else was fonting

gusty mirage
#

RIP YOUR FUCKING STEALTH BUD

desert inlet
#

it said WE FONT

waxen oyster
#

boomkins still pull early

limber lion
# desert inlet this me

Wait mine was slightly different. I had the Mechagon chest for Clockwork Heart instead of Heart of Darkness

waxen oyster
#

what has changed

desert inlet
#

and that's where my WE STEALTH shroud macro comes from

thorn fjord
desert inlet
#

oooo

limber lion
#

180 weeks ago btw

gusty mirage
limber lion
#

:(

waxen oyster
#

besides fyrak leaps and oneshots first person who has aggro

#

yeah

#

we need more bosses like fyrak

gusty mirage
waxen oyster
#

to stop early pullers

clever sapphire
#

i just checked archon, so ye about "a combination of dmg/utility/survivability" part. If i had a euro for all the shitty utility/surv people with 3.4k score

gusty mirage
thorn fjord
#

And people wanted to complain about box s1

limber lion
thorn fjord
#

Der der I hate hard casting a trinket

keen spruce
gusty mirage
keen spruce
#

but why are you in trueshot lodge

desert inlet
#

hey shmeeps I got some duck emotes cookin

gusty mirage
#

because we talk to other class discord mods

#

and its easier

desert inlet
gusty mirage
#

when we have mutual servers

desert inlet
#

duck version of this guy

keen spruce
balmy condor
keen spruce
#

if they have good frogs too

#

bonus

royal lantern
#

@limber lion btw, could all be worse

we could be mage and get litearlly told in a bluepost "frozen orb and arcane orb beeing projectiles that sometimes get stuck on the terrain or on critters is skill expression, we wont make them target aoes/abilitys" kekman

keen spruce
limber lion
waxen oyster
#

honestly

gusty mirage
#

I want my frozen orb to go through a trash pack and pull the trash back behind it

waxen oyster
#

azor has some comedy gold takes

gusty mirage
#

that's how I game out

waxen oyster
#

"obama has only one suit color to minimize brain power usage, be like obama"

royal lantern
#

its like the entire "feral beeing the only druid spec that needs to shift out of its form to use its battle rez is SKILL EXPRESSION and we wont remove it" thing

gusty mirage
#

GOOD

#

you're naming the classes no one likes

#

I hope they NEVER fix any of that

waxen oyster
#

classes?

runic hinge
#

Hey hey

waxen oyster
#

so evokers

limber lion
runic hinge
waxen oyster
#

no one likes evokers lets be real

limber lion
#

Feral > Assassination

#

Get fucked rogue players

desert inlet
#

I like feral

#

feral fun

waxen oyster
#

if i had a nickel for every time some dumb dragon complained about

#

25 yard range

#

i'd be bezos

royal lantern
#

cus 25 yard range is bullshit

#

"they are more mobile" fuck off blizz, mage is even more mobile lol

waxen oyster
#

why does it matter when you can dash halfway across the map

#

in a global

royal lantern
#

but cant group with them

#

and also healing

#

its REALLY fucking bad for healing

waxen oyster
#

ranged have mechanics?

#

hmmge

royal lantern
#

evoker healers have 33% less heal area then all other healers

#

for no reason lol

thorn fjord
#

And weird range lol

waxen oyster
#

i cant wait for oracle priests to just be floorpov

#

if they ever try to buff melee

thorn fjord
#

I can’t wait to get ce so I can break till WW drops

waxen oyster
#

dead to frontal

#

or swirlie

thorn fjord
#

@gusty mirage you guys finished yet?

gusty mirage
#

yeah we been done

#

182 on the list

#

anyone looking for a merc this week

#

ya boys trying to get 4 kills

thorn fjord
#

Nice dude I’m jealous of your freedom

gusty mirage
#

nah don't be

#

I started doing keys

thorn fjord
#

What happened to never again after getting your nick LOL

desert inlet
#

keys fun with group

thorn fjord
#

Got yo ass

royal lantern
desert inlet
#

keys stink without group

royal lantern
#

do you need help oxi?

runic hinge
#

Oxi doing keys? Is he sick

gusty mirage
shy pecan
gusty mirage
#

bro what do you want from me

#

I have nothing else to play

desert inlet
#

u could play

#

parappa the rappa

gusty mirage
#

I'd have to find my old ps1

#

and then hope the CD is playable

runic hinge
#

What spec are you playing in keys

gusty mirage
#

sub

desert inlet
#

u can borrow mine

#

and I can play jammer lammy on my ps2

gusty mirage
#

I channeled my inner vishnu

#

and smited down that BRH

earnest remnant
thorn fjord
#

DB?

thorn fjord
#

I can’t not play OL in keys

#

Shit is based

gusty mirage
#

it's pretty easy when you don't have a 1hander

#

vendor your 1hander

#

see how easy it is to not play outlaw

desert inlet
#

I was practicing some outlaw the other day

gusty mirage
desert inlet
#

then I hit a bad rtb and had no energy and logged out

gusty mirage
#

I'm telling quake

desert inlet
#

just had to remind myself

gusty mirage
#

@spice spire bro endwyr was playing outlaw

#

wtf

slate crown
#

It's funny to me that daggers don't count and you can't use dispatch and stuff with them

desert inlet
#

come on dude don't tell...

spice spire
#

@desert inlet wtf

desert inlet
#

wowwww

spice spire
#

I thought you were a real one

runic hinge
#

I hit a dummy for an hour last night trying to decide if I was gonna play outlaw for a bit

desert inlet
#

now im in trouble

spice spire
#

You changed dog

desert inlet
#

thanks

visual hemlock
#

Anyone knows the name of belt enchant for fyrakk?

desert inlet
#

personal space amplifier

runic hinge
#

It was not fun

thorn fjord
#

I’ve got a mythic thorn thingy @gusty mirage

gusty mirage
#

its a bfa engineering recipe

visual hemlock
#

thanks

gusty mirage
spice spire
gusty mirage
#

or council

spice spire
#

Endwyr was the realest mf

gusty mirage
#

I haven't seen another boss except tindral or fyrakk for 2 months

#

what do you want from me

spice spire
thorn fjord
#

Nothing I can’t ask you to be less awesome

runic hinge
#

None of outlaws buttons feel good to press. You’re pressing 90 things in a minute and they all feel like you’re doing nothing

desert inlet
#

yeah it really does feel like ur doing nothing

thorn fjord
#

You cray

desert inlet
#

then u look at details

gusty mirage
#

the more endwyr talks about outlaw

#

the more angry I get

#

I have to get up and pace angrily in my office

spice spire
thorn fjord
#

lol

desert inlet
#

lmao

gusty mirage
desert inlet
#

it was

spice spire
#

Im literally doing that rn

runic hinge
desert inlet
#

two keys to make sure I still know HOW to play it

gusty mirage
#

MY FINGERS ARE SHAKING WITH RAGE

spice spire
desert inlet
#

im sorry friends

spice spire
#

Gonna have to @ Zac and tell him a new gamer is joining the ranks

desert inlet
#

please forgive me

#

im not that person anymore

#

sin only again fr

waxen oyster
#

oxi would you rather

#

play outlaw

#

or aug

#

if had to pick one

gusty mirage
#

I'd rather play in traffic than either of those

#

but aug

spice spire
gusty mirage
#

comfy 34 apm class

gusty mirage
#

no one knows how bad you are

#

it's perfect for a boomer like me

desert inlet
gusty mirage
#

we do this out of love

spice spire
gusty mirage
#

we're mean because we love you

spice spire
#

If I’m nice to u, you should be very worried

gusty mirage
#

we're millennials, our love language is mental illness and bullying

spice spire
#

(Or idk you enough to judge what is okay to bully)

waxen oyster
#

accidentally breathed into a mechanic?

#

dw you get a cheat too

desert inlet
gusty mirage
#

the only substance I abuse is caffeine tyvm

thorn fjord
#

Still counts

#

Nicotine caffeine same thing

gusty mirage
#

nah that's fake news

#

keep your alternative facts to yourself pls

thorn fjord
#

🤣

#

My lady is addicted to caffeine

gusty mirage
#

so what if I consume 300-400mg of caffeine regularly

thorn fjord
#

It’s wild

gusty mirage
#

you trying to say I'm an addict???

thorn fjord
#

I on the other hand am addicted to nicotine

waxen oyster
#

charged lemonade consumer

thorn fjord
gusty mirage
#

the real high is when you drink enough caffeine to taste colors

#

easily achieved through the wonders of modern energy drinks

runic hinge
#

Coffee does taste like it’s brown

desert inlet
#

mmmm sugar free red bull

gusty mirage
runic hinge
#

Like even if I was blind and you gave me coffee and you were like this is the color brown I’d just agree

gusty mirage
#

this little fucker will put you in the hospital

#

wtf

thorn fjord
#

I can’t drink coffee after 3pm lol

desert inlet
#

nice picture nerd

thorn fjord
#

I’m weak

gusty mirage
#

your opinion is invalidated

gaunt sigil
#

I haven’t had caffeine in like 6 months. I’d prolly have a heart attack

desert inlet
#

u stink

#

nd r dum

gusty mirage
desert inlet
#

oo cotton candy

gusty mirage
desert inlet
#

r they good

runic hinge
#

I don’t drink much caffeine anymore because I’ve ruined my heart with stimulants and I’m afraid to die

gaunt sigil
#

That shit looks like it kills you

gusty mirage
#

BUT

#

BUT

desert inlet
#

lmao

spice spire
#

How many mg

gusty mirage
#

serving size is half a bottle

spice spire
#

What the

gusty mirage
#

it's pretty sick

gaunt sigil
#

They should call it flatline

slate crown
gaunt sigil
#

Cause that’s what it’ll do to you

spice spire
#

Redline because you’re gonna need it after

gusty mirage
#

oh they toned it down after the lawsuits

#

now it's 316mg per entire 8oz container

#

cowards

desert inlet
#

we've been gtting the 15 packs of C4 energy from costco

gusty mirage
#

oh....

desert inlet
#

they're p good

#

there's a watermelon, a strawberry, and a cherry

keen spruce
gusty mirage
#

purty good

desert inlet
#

ooooo

#

me like sour patch

#

I should try

spice spire
gilded oasis
#

I miss old craze

desert inlet
#

but if u go to rogue energy dot com u can use coupon code endwyr for 10% off ur order

gaunt sigil
#

Chat is this real?

desert inlet
#

u can delete that

#

but ya

gusty mirage
gilded oasis
#

Best pvp days of my life

gusty mirage
gilded oasis
#

O

gusty mirage
#

that one is quite a doozy

desert inlet
#

oh they just actually called it cocaine

gilded oasis
#

Funny

#

Spicy yuck

gusty mirage
#

280mg for the can

gilded oasis
#

Lol I like the side blurb

gusty mirage
#

dw all the flavors are awful

desert inlet
#

I do prefer my energy drinks 2 b tasty

waxen oyster
#

you'd think you'd find an energy drink convo

#

in the outlaw channel

gilded oasis
#

I just don't drink them they don't do shit for me. I can drink one and go take a 3hr nap

waxen oyster
#

or is that adderall

thorn fjord
#

Y’all don’t drink prime?

gusty mirage
keen spruce
desert inlet
#

ooooooo

#

gimme!!

thorn fjord
keen spruce
#

Ghost energy are pretty gud

gilded oasis
desert inlet
#

please no

#

my guild wont shut up about them

thorn fjord
#

I’m diabetic 😩

desert inlet
gusty mirage
keen spruce
#

it's good content

spice spire
gusty mirage
#

anheuser-busch inbev bought them during covid I think

keen spruce
#

i didn't know who any of them were

#

before this

#

but content gud

spice spire
#

(His kb windows suck)

desert inlet
#

I only watch people I know

#

everyone else is annoying

gusty mirage
#

you never watch me wtf

gilded oasis
desert inlet
#

whats ur stream

#

also yeah dont look outside

spice spire
waxen oyster
#

honestly

gusty mirage
waxen oyster
#

blason flying full speed into trees

#

was the best clip of this tier

gusty mirage
#

I loved the part where he'd fly through 8 red bubbles

#

and then divine shield when he landed

#

instead of just not flying into them

waxen oyster
#

wasnt that the same clip

gusty mirage
#

yes

waxen oyster
#

where he said "dont do anything stupid"

gilded oasis
#

Just like me fr

desert inlet
#

my guild was talking about reaching out to him

#

I'd quit on the spot

gilded oasis
#

Lolol

gusty mirage
#

honestly

#

Elitist Jerks needs some new blood

#

they need the ANVIL

gilded oasis
#

True maybe he would help

gusty mirage
#

@timid moth can we recruit gromnak

#

now we wait

gilded oasis
#

I met him a few times at BlizzCon I coulda pitched recruitment for you guys

desert inlet
gusty mirage
#

James won't listen to me, he thinks gromnak would scream the entire time

#

idk what about gromnak makes him think that

#

grom seems like a very stable individual

gilded oasis
#

Very

gusty mirage
gilded oasis
#

James must be crazy to think that

gusty mirage
#

@timid moth REBUTTAL JAMES?

royal lantern
gilded oasis
#

James plz respond

gusty mirage
gilded oasis
#

Poor guy

gusty mirage
#

I miss when he was the Mayor of Mayotown

#

those were better times

gilded oasis
#

Sounds delicious

gusty mirage
#

damn james hates us

#

he hates friendship confirmed

gilded oasis
#

Unlucky

gusty mirage
#

at least we still have the angry danish trash panda though

gilded oasis
gilded oasis
#

No the other raccoon

spice spire
#

Shien?

gilded oasis
#

Okay well I didn't know there was more than one

desert inlet
#

im a bubbles fan

spice spire
#

SWMG

desert inlet
#

legalize nuclear bombs

gusty mirage
runic hinge
spice spire
#

Blud you good

gusty mirage
#

I'm harold

#

@earnest remnant is bubbles

gilded oasis
#

Who's kumar

gusty mirage
#

its quake

spice spire
#

Oh

gilded oasis
#

Nice

#

Hope you guys enjoy white castle

royal lantern
signal ridge
#

I only deal in real currency: whispyrcoin

balmy condor
#

based cryptopilled financelad

royal lantern
#

the moment whisp is into crypto is when im leaving RH

#

oh shit, he is gonna do it now

dark token
#

any vaulters

desert inlet
#

many holes

waxen oyster
#

how tf

dark token
#

hack for sockets

waxen oyster
#

mfw you still have better gear than me

#

despite beans vaults

#

havent recleared since smold though doesnt help

thorn fjord
#

What’s wrong with beans

runic hinge
#

The br*ts

thorn fjord
#

I love beans

#

Garbanzo, black, red

#

Gandules

waxen oyster
#

although my sub gear says engy bracers with mastery would be better than any of the 489 vers mast bracers

thorn fjord
#

My load out hates verse for w.e reason… I’m close to 95% mastery with 35% crit and like 27% verse

#

With dagger buff and in stealth I’m sitting at 173% move speed tho

thorn fjord
# hollow robin How?

NS bumps up speed.. have speed on bracers and cloak and cul dagger gives speed when used on dragon

simple vessel
#

I'm at 63% with BIS items I think/thought

steel ridge
#

Prob sub profile

spice spire
#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

spice spire
waxen oyster
quiet oar
arctic hare
#

I like the new subcreation

runic hinge
arctic hare
#

oh?

runic hinge
#

Data aggregation isn’t looked upon fondly here

slate crown
arctic hare
#

lmao, I usually just look at it for a quick, oh hey, cool

slate crown
#

you're swimming in sea creature monster waters

#

beware the beast

arctic hare
#

Lmao, goooooood

keen spruce
#

as long as you understand the data is ass

#

then enjoy all u want

arctic hare
#

Exacccctly

keen spruce
#

they're like the wow version of horoscopes

arctic hare
#

Oh I know, its just entertaining to see what people run and why

#

or rather, what people "run"

simple vessel
keen spruce
#

they mean nothing, people say they just like them for entertainment, but then make wide sweeping decisions about thier lives based on them

#

just like star signs thumbsup

arctic hare
#

True, but I've already got the builds from here so

#

I just play what feels nice that week

#

like this week, i'll be staying away from Cteave

limber lion
#

It's pretty bad

#

It just gathers data but doesn't explain why you play what you play

#

or when to play what

arctic hare
#

Exactly, which is why once I see it, I ask questions about it

#

Like, why do we run Arterial precision? cause it does more damage and can be used for raging weeks too