assassination

[ashen rover]

evasion gamers 💪

[thorn fjord]

Dont stand in bad @ashen rover

[ashen rover]

[thin gate]

ignore raidbots and get sum versa

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confusing-noidea-cat-gif-14787244675382286846

[desert inlet]

low enough key just drink ur juice and pray

high enough key u must be elusive

[thorn fjord]

Y'all aint running with 36% Verse?

[polar cape]

45 or stay home <.<

[thorn fjord]

ah shit

[desert inlet]

vers is a dps loss sorry

gotta get max dam out before I die

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-i-dont-know-whatever-no-clue-no-idea-gif-15377977

[rotund oak]

[thorn fjord]

See what i did there?

[rotund oak]

ye 😅

[runic hinge]

Wish you would

[spice spire]

Pretty sure oranges don’t hit filter

[thorn fjord]

Pulp enjoyer?

[spice spire]

Yes man

[desert inlet]

pulp stinky

if I wanted orange solids, I'd eat an orange

not drink juice

[thorn fjord]

Pulp with a little bit of sugar

[runic hinge]

I love pulp

[spice spire]

Ur a bit of an orange simp aren’t you tho

[desert inlet]

oranges tasty

[spice spire]

I like oranges

[runic hinge]

Orange juice is the best juice

[spice spire]

But not shower oranges

Big AJ fan

[desert inlet]

[thorn fjord]

Pomegranate juice would like a word

[runic hinge]

Oh wait I can’t go down this road this is how I got muted in the feral discord

[desert inlet]

my favorite juice is lemonade

does that count

[thorn fjord]

No

[desert inlet]

dam

prob apple then

[thorn fjord]

I love lemonade tho

Wait is it a juice?

[runic hinge]

I said anyone who thinks apple juice is the best juice is a baby with undeveloped tastebuds and they muted me for 24 hours

[desert inlet]

thats me

I had tendies for breakfast today

[thorn fjord]

It’s not

[runic hinge]

I haven’t gotten out of bed yet

[desert inlet]

love that 4 u

[thorn fjord]

Lemonade was described as lemon flavored sugar water

[runic hinge]

3 day weekend woooo

[desert inlet]

yeah but that's what most juice is

[runic hinge]

Also I don’t go to bed until after 4

[thorn fjord]

You animal

What do you do staying up so late

[desert inlet]

I need to fix my schedule

waking up in the morning ain't it

[runic hinge]

Get home at 1:30ish from work

[thorn fjord]

Ohhh yeah I feel you on that

[runic hinge]

Workout a bit. Eat. Play wow. Get in bed around 3:15 maybe and fall asleep after 4 is the usual schedule

[thorn fjord]

Yeah when I was working nights I had the same schedule

Only id be up till 6

[runic hinge]

Gf makes me go to bed at a a reasonable hour otherwise I’d be up until dawn

[thorn fjord]

She the YOU HAVE TO COME TO BED WITH ME type?

Mine is

[runic hinge]

Yeah partly that and partly that she knows I would sleep too late in the morning and hate it cause I would have to set an alarm to wake up

[thin trout]

nice profile pic @oak tangle

[pseudo jackal]

Hey guys im a bit stuck on secondary stats, im doing 24-25's but sometimes I feel like I need more haste. What is ideal crit mastery haste etc

[spice spire]

No ideal set up as it changes over time.
If you’re feeling lost on energy, you should spread bleeds more

[pseudo jackal]

cant spread bleeds on bosses

[thorn fjord]

You running Dashing?

[woeful meteor]

ST in dungeon Talents just feels like ass and you cant rly change that

[pseudo jackal]

no im not actually

[spice spire]

Oh

St

Yeah nah you’re just gonna feel like low on energy

[twin beacon]

if im crafting a dagger until i get nick - is it worth putting a blue silken lining on it for the mastery bump?

[spice spire]

No you put bsl on armor not weapons

[royal lantern]

assa running low on energy is like, normal

[twin beacon]

ah

[royal lantern]

that happens, and you play around it

[twin beacon]

only fang adornments for weapons?

or grip wrappings

[runic hinge]

You could put bsl on a dagger but you're gonna move it and a 483 nick is nearly better than 486 crafted

If not actually better

[twin beacon]

yea i got 1 nick but a blue offhand

so im jusut trying to upgrade that until i get a 2nd nick

[runic hinge]

Well my suggestion is if you're gonna craft a dagger just leave the embelishment off

[twin beacon]

fair enough

[runic hinge]

and depending on what content you're doing either go bsl on wrists and ring or toxic boots/patch

[pseudo jackal]

what is bsl lol

[vestal wren]

blue silken lining

the mastery embellishment

[thorn fjord]

never heard of her

[vestal wren]

shes a shy one

[pseudo jackal]

So if I was to run dashing scoundrel what would I give up, im running the arteial build

[thorn fjord]

Think Sudden Demise

[gray hazel]

How do you guys survive 26+ keys on Atal and BRH where the shit one shots you?

does that flask that reduces your damage taken above a certain % help?

[storm forum]

Elusiveness and press feint a lot.

[pseudo jackal]

I dont run sudden demise

[gray hazel]

i feel like feint doesnt do anything

still one shots

[woeful meteor]

[thorn fjord]

its much stronger with elusiveness

[gray hazel]

true

[thorn fjord]

and feint is one of our best buttons tbh

[woeful meteor]

in what world does feint with elusiveness do nothing

[gray hazel]

Souldrend does count as AoE?

[storm forum]

Feint broken

[woeful meteor]

no

[thorn fjord]

Aoe dont matter with elusiveness

[gray hazel]

doesnt really matter

[storm forum]

That's why we taken ellusiveness, so it works on stuff that isn't AoE

[woeful meteor]

https://not-even-close.com/

[gray hazel]

Guess thats true.

Might have to run elusive over CD on those ones

[spice surge]

It does actually, for some reason elusiveness adds around 3% extra DR to feint on aoe abilities

[woeful meteor]

you are forced into elusive in like 6/8 keys

[thorn fjord]

interesting i didnt know that

[spice surge]

Ye its very strange

https://old.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/19dxyji/psa_elusiveness_is_bugged_and_increases_feint_aoe/

[gray hazel]

you guys running atrophic in higher keys?

[spice surge]

Yes

[gray hazel]

kk, ill try those out next time i get inv

[spice surge]

Can recommend getting the demon buff for your dreamcarver dagger

[gray hazel]

I usually dont get CD procced unless its a one shot anyways

[spice surge]

Its -6% shadow damage, and most deadly bosses do shadow damage (the increased damage part of the buff doesnt actually function)

[gray hazel]

I dont have the dagger 😦

went to the other rogue, and we only saw the one myth one before we started to extend

[thorn fjord]

But i can only equipped 1 dagger @spice surge

[spice surge]

What

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-of-the-plain-tim-curry-jezebel-jack-laugh-laughing-gif-4916404

[spice surge]

That doesnt really change it

[thorn fjord]

Nick goes on OH unfort

So no dreamcarver

[spice surge]

If youre only really struggling on the bosses (like in atal) doing ~0.5% less damage from not having a nick

is def worth taking 6% less damage

[thorn fjord]

well that is true actually

[earnest remnant]

did you get around to test it on Fyrakk?

if not then i have two logs i think one running it and one without

[thorn fjord]

36% verse tho

[spice surge]

If you link the logs i can have a look

I havent tested it (as i dont have my dreamcarver equiped in raids)

[gray hazel]

Thanks for your help Eleem!

[spice surge]

np

[gray hazel]

Dont have logs though

[spice surge]

And like i said, if you read the demon buff and it says "increased physical damage taken by 6%" and think "hmm that seems bad"

[gray hazel]

i should start logging the keys

[spice surge]

Then dont fret, it doesnt work, you arent taking any extra phys damage

[gray hazel]

I think i did get a 483 heroic one, might restore it

yeah for sure

[spice surge]

The majority of hard dungeon bosses this season do shadow damage

Atal, brh last boss, throne, dht, waycrest all have boss(es) that do substantial shadow damage

Dawn and everbloom being the exception

[gray hazel]

yeah, one dungeon didnt have much issues living is DHT with feint working on most of the AoE

do you run the same builds for Tyran and fort?

[woeful meteor]

played demon one evening and didn't work

[earnest remnant]

yeah doesent look like it did anything at all

[vestal wren]

i should add it to the bug report

probably also test the other options

mecha is fixed

gigant does not do shit

[earnest remnant]

left is with demon

[spice surge]

Unluck

Here is an example of it working on regular shadow damage, so its just fyrakk doing shadowflame that screws it over

(swapped to the dagger mid fight, which is why its slightly more than 6% reduction as it also gives some vers)

Ive also realized if you log out with the dagger not equiped it forgets your buff and you need to grab a new one 💀

[balmy condor]

hybrid element damage is super fucking spaghetti

I mean, normal element damage is already super fucking spaghetti

it's a miracle the dagger works as a baseline

but hybrid element

omega doomed

that shit ain't even consistent with itself

[graceful frigate]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[spice surge]

Ye the dagger showcases it with like half the things not working

I have no idea if the holy damage increase from the demon buff works, but i cant even think of somewhere that does holy damage to test it

Halls of valor i guess maybe

[balmy condor]

yah hov would work

[spice surge]

But idk i cant really be bothered as theres no mechanic that even does holy damage this season

[desert inlet]

maiden at beginning of rise

maybe its radiant idk

[spice surge]

Thought it was arcane, but ye youre right its actually holy

[balmy condor]

you're actually cracked

for knowing that

[desert inlet]

[keen spruce]

[gaunt moat]

No bunny wicked emoji

[soft shale]

be the change that you want to be

[past forum]

Radiant is holy fire ye?

[desert inlet]

[past forum]

I think I remember that from my light dabbling with ret

[keen spruce]

radiant is fire/holy ye

[balmy condor]

Well which is it, fire or holy

[gilded oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[balmy condor]

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

Yeah I don’t trust that for shit

I mean I do

But ain’t no hybrid element make sense

[keen spruce]

does immunity to one work for the dual ones? or do u need immunity to both? does it reduce half of the damage and you take full from the other half? is it probably different for every single one of these damage types, content type, and case by case basis?

[slate crown]

Historically, in the classic-era days, dual schools were eventually introduced, I forget when exactly, but the mechanic with them and proper Resistance stats was that any dual school spell would check both resistances and just use the lower of the two, ignoring the higher, effectively requiring that you have resistance to both in order to gain benefit

No clue if that's how modern day immunities work

Ah yeah, from right above that table, in 4.0 was their introduction, with frostfire bolt as a prototype beforehand

[past forum]

Yep, they use the lower resistance and you need immunity to both schools

[oak tangle]

still doesn't explain why they let me cloak physical damage stuff sometimes

[balmy condor]

cause it's magical physical damage

obviously

but yeah, that's how it should work

good luck finding any consistency in that though

would be easier to wipe your ass with sandpaper

[blazing jewel]

@desert inlet

[desert inlet]

?

[blazing jewel]

go #1

[keen spruce]

endwyr sandbagging again?

[blazing jewel]

real

[desert inlet]

rng spec nothing I can do

[blazing jewel]

🎰

channel the power of the shower orange

the boss is kinda orange he deserves it

[rotund oak]

irrelevant but i think i havent eaten a better rasberry mousse cake in my life

plz continue

[blazing jewel]

buff rogue

[rotund oak]

buff sub aoe

[runic hinge]

Buff rogue

[blazing jewel]

buff daggers

[rotund oak]

dont buff outlaw

u crazy

[swift pendant]

Is there anyone here that could possibly assist me in bettering my rogue play by reviewing my bosses/keys? Or coaching? I really wanna like my rogue but I am never top dps or close to top even. 478 ilvl.

Just trying to find an alt I enjoy and casters I dislike this season

[oak tangle]

happy to look at logs, whispyr offers coaching

[prime jackal]

lolol kingsbane >.> damage falls off instantly though

[orchid sequoia]

hey, just a quick question, so i just decided today to go back to playing assa, after playing only outlaw for key(still will do) and sub for raid, but i dont enjoy sub at all tbh, but i see now on logs that all the assa rogues are going haste mastery, didnt it use to be crit? and also has the rotation changed at all with the new stat weights?

[oak tangle]

i have nothing to add other than i have sought nothing other than ilvl and my parses are 95+

i think you are overthinking stats

[orchid sequoia]

ok, so rotation still the same as it was then?

[oak tangle]

stats dont change anything about it no

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

[marsh ferry]

900k damage and 1.3M dps? you're looking at a 2 second window

if you're trying to see what you can burst, you should use dynamic overall instead so it's not wiped by vanish

[rotund oak]

KB last 2 ticks(especially last one) hits like a smol nuke

if that thing crits its scary dmg

[woeful hollow]

ye

[proven jasper]

I had a smolderon crit phase where all last three crits of kb hit for 1.3 mill

Needed to change my pants

[tawny geyser]

Meanwhile my Smolderon likes to parry my Kingsbanes :/

[proven jasper]

Happens to me on council all the time lol, aerwynn just spins to face me as im casting it and i get parried

[tawny geyser]

Jesus Christ, I hate Council fight.
Those bastards just jump away.

[proven jasper]

Ive come to absolutely hate reclearing council/nymue

[past forum]

Bosses that randomly turn should not be allowed to parry

[tawny geyser]

Nymue is my only lowest Log...
I have no idea how to go above 60 in parses in that fight.
Deathmark never alligns with Kingsbane.

Talking about Mythic ofc.

[woeful meteor]

hold kb for first intermission hold dm until it alligns again works for the rest of the fight

[proven jasper]

^

[tawny geyser]

So dont KB the first add?

[woeful meteor]

yes

and then you hold dm until you have kb back

[tawny geyser]

Feels disgusting

[proven jasper]

that fight was fun like a month ago when the timers where better in my raid group

[woeful meteor]

what the other option naked dms and kbs

[prime jackal]

That's wild. I can't get no good crits outside of having vanish available

[proven jasper]

[gaunt sigil]

Just think about it

Noodle arms build makes you have bigger KBs

Therefore the better build

Ignore the -6k dps on sims

[proven jasper]

Noodle arms bis

[gaunt sigil]

Mhm

I ran it on myth tswift, while doing bombs, no aug, no pi and got a 91 with it

I think for some fights it’s actually far superior

So far tswift is the only one I’ve tried it on, but I could see it being ok for smold and larodar too

[simple vessel]

So how does The Hungerer compare to Hourglass?

[vestal wren]

whats noodle arms

[gaunt sigil]

I only have 1 pull on mythic Fyrakk but I will look into it

[gaunt sigil]

Acro

[vestal wren]

i thought noddle arms = weak arms = no acro

[proven jasper]

T swift acro makes a ton of sense on

i can definitely see that

[gaunt sigil]

Mb, I will call them go go gadget arms from now on

[proven jasper]

Yes

[gusty mirage]

extra elbows

[vestal wren]

i like that

[proven jasper]

ew

Extra elbows sounds scary

[gaunt sigil]

Fr

Acro feels so good on tswift, I’d recommend most people to try it and see if they like it. I personally found much more success and slightly higher dps with it

[royal lantern]

its good ye

but also

i never really had the feeling that i "need" it tbh

[gaunt sigil]

Tswift is the only fight so far that I fell like it’s been a major help. I wouldn’t call it necessary but it’s definitely a nice to have for that fight.

[spice spire]

Krill issue

[brisk finch]

hi everyone, Im pretty new to retail and WoW as a whole, I'm a level 32 assassination rogue and I am having issues with my gear, I am doing the least damage in dungeons and random world mobs are getting me down below half health, I don't really know where to go from here to fix my gear and im looking for some tips.

[tawny geyser]

Welcome to WoW! Don't worry about your damage or gear until you reach max level, which is 70. Just take it easy, follow your tank in dungeons, read up on your spells.

Get an addon called Pawn, it will tell you which item is currently better in your backpack than the one you have equipped.

[brisk finch]

thank you so much man

[tawny geyser]

No problem, just ask if something is unclear 🙂

[balmy condor]

And then uninstall pawn cause it’s a dogshit addon that’s misleading at best and downright wrong most of the time and just equip the thing with the highest item level

[balmy condor]

It’s a two step process

Like a juice cleanse

Someone tells you to download it, and then I beat the shit out of you tell you to uninstall it

[rancid nimbus]

Classic Whispyr

[runic hinge]

Whispyr after you install pawn

[proven jasper]

[balmy condor]

Bro I fr be waking up like 2 hours earlier than normal cause I felt a disturbance in the force when pawn got mentioned

[proven jasper]

HAHA

[prime jackal]

What is noodle arms / acro yall are talking bout? A trinket?

[balmy condor]

Acrobatic strikes

The talent

[gaunt sigil]

Acrobatic Stiked

[prime jackal]

Ohhhh

Makes sense lol

[plain moon]

Don’t listen to him he just wants all the pawn dps to himself

[brisk finch]

im confused

[prime jackal]

Worst add on ever

[balmy condor]

They’re memeing

Pawn is terrible

Don’t get it

[plain moon]

If that was @ me don’t be confused. I’m not serious

[gaunt sigil]

Pawn is a bad addon, its mediocre at best when leveling and actually just troll when you are 70

[balmy condor]

Probably worse when leveling actually

[gaunt sigil]

I honestly couldnt tell you cause I have never used it lol

[proven jasper]

same

[gaunt sigil]

Hold on

[proven jasper]

Just spread gods word of ilvl>everything

[balmy condor]

Your stat weights shift even more while you’re leveling and unlocking straight up new talents you didn’t have before

It’s actually unusable

[plain moon]

Don’t use pawn. Just sim stat weights and use that instead like the rest of us

[gusty mirage]

it's just big pawn hoarding all the dps to themselves

[gaunt sigil]

Lemme go sim my stat weights and download pawn to put the import string in pawn

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

Liamr would you just shut the fuck up man

[proven jasper]

Assa rogue out here stopping big pawnas agenda

[gusty mirage]

ya know that's what I loved most about that addon, it was actually significantly more effort than just slapping a simc input into raidbots

to tell you the same thing

"go sim statweights, grab pawn string, import it into pawn and do this every single time you change ANYTHING"

[balmy condor]

And then it’s still wrong

[gusty mirage]

nah you just have to sim it again after you equip the 7% upgrade

to notice that it's no longer a 7% upgrade

just put in the extra effort for the less accurate form of top gear

idk what the issue is

[balmy condor]

Sim
Import pawn
Piece is an upgrade
Equip piece
Sim
Import pawn
The piece you just took off is an upgrade
Equip old piece again
Sim
Import pawn
New piece is an upgrade
Equip new piece
Wtf
Sim
Import pawn
Old piece is an upgrade
Equip old piece
Sim
Import pawn

[gusty mirage]

[gilded oasis]

i just equip what looks cute

[gusty mirage]

this is so much easier than copying and pasting your simc input into top gear

[balmy condor]

Sisyphus’s gear upgrade

[gusty mirage]

just tmog it idiot

[gilded oasis]

whats that??

[plain moon]

That’s why I just look at my bis list online and use that

[spice spire]

Ur mom

[gusty mirage]

something blizzard hasn't properly stolen from ff14 yet

[balmy condor]

Are you actually trying to make me mad or what’s the deal here

[royal lantern]

did you ever play ff14?

[gusty mirage]

I have not

[royal lantern]

holy shit the tmog system there is dogshit

[gusty mirage]

tmoggers love it

[proven jasper]

LMAO was just gonna say

[royal lantern]

legit the only good part is that you can dye stuff

mate, you need the physical item

[proven jasper]

Wow does it better besides the dye stuff

[royal lantern]

have limited slots of items you can tmog

need to buy resources to tmog

[proven jasper]

Its so ass in 14

[royal lantern]

need to buy the dyes everytime you wanna change color

[gusty mirage]

I'm failing to see the issue here

[gilded oasis]

i miss ask mr robot

[gusty mirage]

sounds like you guys aren't serious tmoggers

[proven jasper]

smh

This

[plain moon]

I’m just lay in bed meme around. I don’t mean to upset. I love you dad ❤️

[balmy condor]

Is this what I get for waking up 2 hours earlier

[gusty mirage]

just ban zar

[balmy condor]

This is my penance

[gilded oasis]

????

[gusty mirage]

she doesn't even like george

smh my head

[gilded oasis]

ok thats blasphemy

[royal lantern]

with "need the physical item" it means "you have a closet and need to put the item inside to have it avaible, if you remove it you cant tmog it anymore, there are limited slots for it, you need to buy a resource everytime you wanna tmog a item, you need to buy a dye everytime you wanna dye"

[gusty mirage]

Again, I'm failing to see the issue here

[subtle tundra]

who is george?

[royal lantern]

oh, and lets not forget that 2 races still cant use head pieces

[gusty mirage]

just buy more bag space for $10

[royal lantern]

[gusty mirage]

????

why do you hate money tryan

[proven jasper]

[gusty mirage]

(can you buy more bagspace?)

[royal lantern]

cus money is stinky

[proven jasper]

Why hasnt wow added that option yet

[gusty mirage]

actually true

touche

did you know that most banknotes have a trace of cocaine on them

[gilded oasis]

yeah thats why I sniff them all before I spend em

[royal lantern]

brb liking my money now

[gusty mirage]

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pussy-lick-gif-10500124329839619831

[proven jasper]

so if i lick up a couple dollar bills i can play outlaw?

[gusty mirage]

it's something wild like 90% of US bills

[balmy condor]

Money is what allowed a bro named Travis to have enough free time on his hands to make pawn

[gaunt sigil]

Ok wait

[gusty mirage]

might need a lil bit more than a couple of dollars

[balmy condor]

And that’s not okay

[gaunt sigil]

So lets say I have 1.2million dollars in a suitcase

Could I get signaled by a drug dog?

[gusty mirage]

depends on the amount on each bill

[proven jasper]

Yeah see the problem there is travis CHOSE to make pawn with that money instead of something cool

[gusty mirage]

but I suppose, you could yes

[obtuse thicket]

Soi im new to roguer and generally assassin. Dance specc is the best raid specc for 1 target? I know vanish gets me a few ambushes etc. just trying to get a a hold on things since there is so many speccs for assassin

[balmy condor]

This is why I don’t trust dudes named Travis

[gilded oasis]

no wonder you dont like me

[balmy condor]

Yes

[proven jasper]

Never have never will

[royal lantern]

ye, assa is playing shadow dance everywhere rn

[balmy condor]

[royal lantern]

tbh, all specs do

there is no rogue without dance rn

(fuck dance)

[proven jasper]

i love dance

[gusty mirage]

you can dance if you want to

[proven jasper]

but ill have to leave my friends behind

😦

[gusty mirage]

but if your friends don't dance, then they're no friends of yours

[balmy condor]

I fr be not noticing that dance exists on assa

[royal lantern]

if we could do something interesting with it, sure i gues, but rn its mostly just "make a stronger garrote and 10% more kb dmg"

like

its almost 100% passive

macro with kb and forget dance exists

[gilded oasis]

me dancin in a m+

[proven jasper]

Its a great enabler but we just have no great way to use it i feel like

Exactly

[obtuse thicket]

haha if only vanish gave us a dance before vanishing

[proven jasper]

I love afroman LMAO

he is HITTIN THAT!

[gilded oasis]

I saw him last night. I am a bit appalled by the number of 9-11 year olds who were there tbh.. right in the middle of a big ol smoke cloud

[spice spire]

I’m more of a griddy hitter myself

[royal lantern]

pic

[gilded oasis]

quit trying to act young

[proven jasper]

Proof?

[spice spire]

Okay grandma chill

[gilded oasis]

I refuse

[spice spire]

The triple ping let’s go

[gaunt sigil]

Yall boomers lmao

[gilded oasis]

wh

[proven jasper]

[spice spire]

If I had a concept of your age I’d make fun of you too

[royal lantern]

every age is wrong

younger then me = frking zoomers

older = half dead boomers

[gilded oasis]

yeah we should all just be dead

[plain moon]

Biggest true

[spice spire]

Real

Except you

[gilded oasis]

Especially me

[spice spire]

Kitten and willow need you tho

Sorry homie

[gilded oasis]

they can eat my body

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

george needs you

[gilded oasis]

I have another ehating pad on the way, kitten keeps kicking willow off hers at night its sad

[spice spire]

George just needs someone. Mom will live longer than George. He’ll be fine

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

He’s a good lad. He’ll find love.

[gilded oasis]

ya from you cause you're gonna live forever

[spice spire]

I can’t imagine a worse hell

[gilded oasis]

LOL

[jaunty warren]

Apples to hekili too right 😎

[balmy condor]

Yes

[runic hinge]

[obtuse thicket]

carnage for gnarlroot yay or nay? I feel like we burst down the adds to fast for it to matter

[runic hinge]

Carnage no, caustic yes

[keen spruce]

6 people out today

and both tanks out tomorrow

[plain moon]

[desert inlet]

[spice spire]

🤬

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/put-me-in-coach-im-ready-to-play-hubie-dubois-adam-sandler-hubie-halloween-gif-18745474

[gilded oasis]

put all of us in

[spice spire]

Even me

[runic hinge]

EVEN QUAKE

[keen spruce]

hof closed next reset yes?

[gilded oasis]

prob

[keen spruce]

i need a gaggle of mercenary rogues

on standby

[gilded oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/gaggle-flamingos-gif-18674852

[plain moon]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-ok-wave-penguin-respect-gif-7801676887438351093

[royal lantern]

imagine telling your RL "i have some people that could replace them"

and then you invite 6+ shity assa OTP's that make horny comments all the time

[keen spruce]

[gilded oasis]

rude

[spice spire]

Stay mad

[austere sorrel]

I'll join. You need someone at the bottom of the DPS to make the rest feel good

[royal lantern]

huh?

[spice spire]

[royal lantern]

what did i miss

im confused now

[plain moon]

Only problem we’d run into is killing the bosses too quickly

[spice spire]

I miss us

[royal lantern]

[spice spire]

Except the dms (they aren’t even bad I just get concerned )

[gusty mirage]

reporting for duty

[runic hinge]

That's my gang you're talking about

(you're in the gang)

[bronze pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1105493398279958558.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

the cat gif was to big. (this is sin related tyranical mods)

[gusty mirage]

[bronze pike]

what?

actual sin question tho, do yall have a suggested weakaura yall use or??

do i gotta make one like for outlaw

[gusty mirage]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[gusty mirage]

a lot of people like whispyr's afenar edit

I personally use atrocity

[gilded oasis]

I use Zarz

[vestal wren]

i use my custom set ^^

weakauras are a lot about personal taste

so find what you like visually and modify it to fit your requirements

the best weakaura set is always a bit of a Frankenstein from different sets
(unless you start from scratch, something only few do)

[runic hinge]

I use luxthos

[slate crown]

I use this LE person's group, I hear they're super cool.

[gilded oasis]

well someone lied to you

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-happy-laughing-crying-i-cant-even-gif-24163733

[jaunty warren]

The savagery around here needs to be admired 🤣

[balmy condor]

What’s LE stand for? Ligma Eggs?

[royal lantern]

Lawfull Evil

what else

[blazing jewel]

!egg

[slate crown]

Close, it's actually Lichen Egress.

[balmy condor]

I’m not googling that

[prime jackal]

what would i give up to get noodle arms for fyrakk?

[soft shale]

everything

ER got totally snacked

[runic hinge]

drop deeper and alacrity for leathality and acro

[pseudo jackal]

any assass rogues here with 3300+ rating can link their rio for me

[gray hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

[shy pecan]

[pastel roost]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[languid pier]

?fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[bronze pike]

poggie thank yall for the suggestions

i think imma use atrocity and rem it up a bit

[quiet oar]

Wait

Question Mark does work Too???

For Command??

[slate crown]

Yeah I was just thinking that lol

?wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[slate crown]

hey it does

[quiet oar]

Mind blown

[desert inlet]

$fuu

dam

[quiet oar]

Nice try

Should try it with an @

Endwyr

[desert inlet]

I think I'm on cd for the bot

[quiet oar]

Ah Yeah true

I miss the !whispyr

[desert inlet]

me too

it's just not the same around here

[quiet oar]

Ye

Sin chat got over nerfed too

Not even gifs are allowed as sin

[desert inlet]

[dark token]

Wtf

[quiet oar]

I mean whats next?

Taking away whisp?

[dark token]

You can just search for it u know

[hasty gate]

on smold do we save deathmark for first lust or on pull

[balmy condor]

On pull

[oak tangle]

what i did, was convince my team to use the lust on second intermission, so i had dm and lust 👍

sub 35%

[balmy condor]

third intermission

[devout mirage]

old question, the Firelands Trinket, is a upgrade for sin?

[balmy condor]

no

[thin trout]

the BoE belt that gives high mastery low crit, is that our BiS? (yah i know sim it but i am missing so many items it's not really simmable)

[quaint hull]

The reason you sim it is because the sim will lean you towards a specific stat distribution.

If its an upgrade put it on.

There's no such thing as a BIS list, Whispyr also has a whole video explaining it.

Especially with the amount of crafting gear, dungeon gear, raid gear, gem slots, and enchants in the game. They all affect what the sim will mathematically calculate as an upgrade for you.

Thus, reaching a similar stat distribution can be done in different ways.

[junior yoke]

Hello

Hey where the f is my emoji

[blazing jewel]

Secret

[grim tree]

!simc

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[pseudo jackal]

every assass rogue on rio is pplaying outlaw lol

[subtle tundra]

🧢

some play sub

[steel ridge]

♿

[dark token]

That tells me u didn't check very hard

[bleak sun]

Im onetricking Assa As 3.3 io rn

[clever sapphire]

true, just went on rio and the second assa i checked was actually assa

[oak tangle]

i mean if they are 3.3k in sin spec, they probably play sin

[raven flower]

are you checking to see if it's possible or

[runic hinge]

I hit 3k as assa yesterday and I suck. So it’s definitely possible

My io page is clean tho. 100% of keys done as assa.

[oak tangle]

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-spec-rankings/season-df-3/world/rogue/assassination

even if someone plays outlaw now, they had to play sin to get that io, it disregards other specs

i think you may have been searching for all rogues

[gray hazel]

I’ve only done one key as outlaw, and I regret it everyday

[uneven summit]

got hard stuck at 3350 with invites, 27s outside of meta pugging is amazing

[gray hazel]

I bet. I just want to time a 27 and I’ll be happy.

But I’m sure the only way that’ll happen if it’s my key lol

[vast osprey]

Babayagajw
Haine des coursevent - Elune (EU)
Hello, I don't understand how to increase the sim with my rogue assa. I don't really have them all. but I am very far from the sims of an archi opti rogue. can someone check my stuff and tell me the problem. thank you very much

[gusty mirage]

preliminary looks, you need the branch trinket from everbloom, and you'd benefit from a 483 nick of time in your offhand

upgrading your last few hero track to 483 would be a good start as well

[manic coral]

is the ragnaros trinket any good or

[gusty mirage]

is that the hero track one from the cache

[manic coral]

ye i think so

[winged sun]

[gusty mirage]

afaik it's okay, but not worth going out of your way to farm but should be able to sim it

once I remember the name of it I'll get you a string to toss into your topgear

[sinful holly]

Are we using the ap build or 4 poison build now in myth

Guide says both are equally good

Just started pve doing mostly just 18-23

[next cedar]

#trinket1=matrix_restabilizer,id=68994,ilevel=483
#trinket1=matrix_restabilizer,id=68994,ilevel=476

[gusty mirage]

you da real mvp

[manic coral]

where do i put this in

(i suck at simming)

[shy pecan]

At the bottom of your simc.

[cedar yew]

Anyone have the kingsbane WA and got custom sounds to work? I can't get it and it's doing my head in 😂

[slate crown]

Yes. I don't use the custom sounds but I tested them and they worked on my end

Can you show me what your custom options screen looks like, and how you're entering the custom sound?

(I'm assuming you mean the timeline, not sure if Notter's has custom sounds)

[cedar yew]

Grrr what am I missing then. 😂

[clever sapphire]

you say farm it like its possible, you can kill the boss once and thats it

[cedar yew]

I'll put up screens in a bit. Just feeding the kiddos ATM!

I can get customs to work with any other WA just not the kingsbane one. It will be something stupid I'm missing

[gusty mirage]

you don't have 8 mirror rogues to try it on?

filthy casual

[clever sapphire]

actually i have 1

cause i was bored

im thinking about another one

xD

[slate crown]

If you check this (is checked by default), there will be a debug message showing if you entered an invalid sound file path

If that's showing up then need to check the path again.

If it isn't, then it could be something to do with your sound channels you selected or sound settings

[cedar yew]

ok you are right getting invalid messages on my general chat

but thats the file path i use for all other customs

E:\World of Warcraft_retail_\Interface\AddOns\WeakAuras\Media\Sounds\Tea.Mp3

any suggestions @slate crown

[slate crown]

Taking a look

[spice spire]

[cedar yew]

ahhhh got it! for some reason it had to put them back into that folder

i dont get the debug message now!

[slate crown]

Ah nice. I was about to type my second point but that was my first point to check

1. I'm always cautious about storing the file in the WeakAuras folder because it may get overwritten when WeakAuras makes an update or changes their files around. The addon update process shouldn't touch files not updated by the addon directly but you never know. I store my files in a custom folder, \Interface\Custom Sounds\. Just in case I would verify that the sound file is actually still there.

Also FYI, you can shorten that path as well, you can remove everything before \Interface\, so instead simply do \Interface\AddOns\WeakAuras\Media\Sounds\Tea.Mp3

The game will default to checking the parent directory as the game folder (_retail_)

[cedar yew]

yea i think your right it must have been an update thats done something to them!

ah perfect thank you!

[slate crown]

Np

[spice spire]

np

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/my-job-here-is-done-bye-done-gif-14879937

[cedar yew]

yasss it all works!!!1

now i jsut have to learn the rest of playing sin

[raven flower]

oh yeah that reminds me I wanted to replace my walking sound with the squidward one

[cedar yew]

do it

[broken flame]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[tawny geyser]

Log review please ❤️
Note: There was some bad positioning and Orb fucks ups.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ncjgDyBQzpbRdJPY#fight=10&type=damage-done

[sweet dawn]

Do we run double on use in mythic smolderon like sub

?

Or is signet brand oke

[balmy condor]

never double on use for assa

[sweet dawn]

That's what I was hoping

[clever sapphire]

what if i also skill sepsis so i have sepsis and kb for intermission without dm

hmmmm

[balmy condor]

might be the worst intermission I've seen

you actually just full trolled the only intermission where assassination does damage

[keen spruce]

Blazzer noooo

[tawny geyser]

:((((

I am not so good with these "graphs"

[balmy condor]

the bottom 3 are the intermission

pink block is the intermission timer

then red is your power infusion from the priest

and the stacking orange at the bottom is the buff from collecting orbs

so all your damage from the pi/orbs in the intermission

came about 20 seconds after you pressed your cooldowns

the tick marks above being your cooldowns

green is kingsbane, yellow is deathmark

so you pressed your cooldowns before the intermission, then they ran out, then you had the buffs and 0 damage left

that's why your damage done looks like this

and it should look like this

[tawny geyser]

This is the BL intermission or?

[balmy condor]

yes

the blue in those last 2 pictures are bloodlust

[tawny geyser]

So I used DM and KB before BL and the 100% dmg

[serene solar]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

ya

[tawny geyser]

k, fixing it next week then

thank you again 3

❤️

[vagrant hearth]

should i use my potion of power in pull with deathmark or wait for first intermission with kingsbane?

in smolderon*

[balmy condor]

on pull

[gaunt moat]

@keen spruce

Missed one seed 😦

[keen spruce]

we didn't raid today

cuz both tanks are gone

[gaunt moat]

You have many alts, surly one can tank

[keen spruce]

shmups was almost called up

[elfin matrix]

hows assassination damage in comparison with sub in mythic +?

[keen spruce]

assas is more like fire mage

good prio, overall not that great

since the nerfs the single target is pretty mid tho

[elfin matrix]

what about sub?

[keen spruce]

sub can go big in AoE with CDs

i'm not really sure how they're doin

rn

i see a few people playing it. but normally you just swap to sub for iridikron or the first part of EB

if you're a pirate player

[elfin matrix]

lmao

[earnest remnant]

sub does good

but outlaw is slightly better

[novel arrow]

wait. Where is my Sepsis Animation

Did they take that away?

[spice spire]

Sub does what

[slate crown]

Yeah I too am a SL Sepsis Animation Enjoyer.

[novel arrow]

Didn't I glow blue when I used it? I now just wave my little arms around

and thats it!

[slate crown]

They changed it yeah

[novel arrow]

Why?! 😦

it wasn't hurting anyone!

I guess I glow green kinda? But its not as appealing

[gaunt moat]

They wanted to distance the ability from the covenant asthetics

[slate crown]

Does it still have the mystical pinging sound effects?

[gaunt moat]

they did it to all covenant abilities on all classes

[novel arrow]

I see thanks. I mean. Grrrrr.

Feel like they were just fine.

[gaunt moat]

But like, why are you using sepsis in 2024

[royal lantern]

thats litearlly how all rogue poison abilitys look like

[slate crown]

Yeah honestly I did like the effects. Bone spike was fine, I don't remember what flag even looked like

[novel arrow]

The visual clarity and familiarity actually helps. now I'm more confused

[slate crown]

But sepsis and ER I actively enjoy the aesthetic of

and sound of

the SL versions

So, not too happy about it changing

[royal lantern]

wow players will litearlly always find a reason to complain

dont comment on that quake, i know

[earnest remnant]

[desert inlet]

I think they said they're gonna add glyphs to get the old effects on them back

kinda weird they changed them without adding the glyphs tho

[gaunt sigil]

Agreed ^

[gaunt moat]

ˢᵐᵒˡ ⁱⁿᵈⁱᵉ ᶜᵒᵐᵖᵃⁿʸ

[desert inlet]

it is too late

the ping has been pung

[spice spire]

[gaunt sigil]

Cheat op or what?

[prime jackal]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[sick herald]

Has anyone farmed fall after dagger? I absolutely hate this dungeon. what rate does this dagger have?

[spice surge]

All items in m+ have the same chance of appearing

So 1/6, assuming you get the 2/5 loot roll

[sick herald]

well, something isn't working since I'm on the farm and it hasn't fallen out yet, the only thing I can think of is the hourglass

If I could sell them I would be a millionaire

[stuck knoll]

@sick herald change your profile picture if you want to be in this discord

[sick herald]

Is it okay now?

[stuck knoll]

Ye

and yeah some items just won't drop I know people who farmed 30+ Falls for the dagger and never saw it drop

[sick herald]

me too

I sad

And the worst thing is that assa needs 2 of these daggers

[gaunt sigil]

[spice spire]

Why no double 489

[gaunt sigil]

Dont have 2 489 nicks ;-;

483 nick sims higher oh than 489 dreamcarver

[spice spire]

Skill issue

[gaunt sigil]

[spice spire]

Real

[novel arrow]

Are sparks unlimited now or no/

[plain moon]

No but there’s a lot available, should be able to get as much as you would need

[novel arrow]

When I come back, I never know how many I shuold have

because it drops randomly, so it's like ... oh am I capped because it's not dropping... or I'm just unlucky

lol

[rotund oak]

7.5 iirc

[plain moon]

You can also go to weekly rep quest in emerald dream if you haven’t this week for a half

[deft lark]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[winter gale]

Guys, is everything in 10.2.5 the same as in 10.2 for us?

I came back after couple of weeks*

[oak tangle]

ummm same, bhut we do less damage

[hollow dirge]

and other classes do more 😄

[oak tangle]

😢

[lyric plover]

Hi everyone, I m a new rogue player in retail and I have chose the assasination, could some help me with the talent tree, I have choose the Légion campaign for my leveling

[royal lantern]

#assassination-faq has the wowhead link, the guide there has all the information you need

[lyric plover]

There is two build, Mythic+ and Ammirdrasil, wich one to choose ?

[pseudo hamlet]

Doesn't matter that much for the leveling tbh. Personally I'd choose M+ Arterial with Sudden Demise 😄

[dark token]

Mythic+ arterial shock build on wowhead

[junior yoke]

Where is the look back of assassination rogue? Lul

[orchid pewter]

?

Its already 12 days old my guy

[ashen rover]

It was one of the first ahahah

[vestal wren]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/a-look-back-at-assassination-rogue-in-dragonflight-and-war-within-wishlist-337295

[rotund oak]

2 best in slot writers,fuu and whispyr

[gilded oasis]

sorry I'll have to sim the best writer, I've been told BIS lists don't exist

[gaunt sigil]

I’ve been told some writers sim inaccurately on some specs so watch out for that

[thorn fjord]

Not my writer

[spice spire]

Yeah, me

[narrow flower]

what talent build should I use for 0 tier items? (newly dinged lvl 70)

[vestal wren]

you have 9 charges of the catalyst, so even if you use your charges for 4 low item level pieces

you got enough left to later, when you got higher item level gear, stil be able to convet a better option

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[royal lantern]

we reached the point where im using charges for lfr/normal tmog

[vestal wren]

the impact of the tier set is too high to play without tier

[gaunt sigil]

I love this tierset

[vestal wren]

this is kind of the case for all 3 specs

[gaunt sigil]

Auto Attack go Brrr, Envenom go boom

Seeing Poison Bomb and Envenomous Explosion going off is satisfying

I feel like some sort of crazed alchemist

It’s the best

[royal lantern]

envenomous explosion has a animation????

[gaunt sigil]

Boom 💥

[wicked valve]

Time to upgrade your rig!

[royal lantern]

trust me, i dont need upgrades

[wicked valve]

Upgrade youe eyes then! I can't reccomend Lasik more. 🙂

[austere sorrel]

Would you say, it increased, your eye lvl? Heheheh

[spice spire]

Debating firing off a mute for that one

[subtle tundra]

im pretty sure there's no tier set animation

or if there is, im amazed anyone can see it

[gaunt sigil]

I think it’s just a small explosion like animation

But maybe I’m just crazy

Either way

Explosions go brrrr

[quiet oar]

Quake you have to enjoy good puns

[slate crown]

Removing poison bomb and testing envenom, I do not see xplosions with the tier set sadly

but there is one in my heart

(brrrrrrr)

[spice spire]

[royal lantern]

good puns yes

GOOD

[south tendon]

Hi folks,
we are doing a little experiment. Lvl a never played char to 70, do nothing and go straight into Mythic+. No other gearsources allowed. Ive choosen my assarogue.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/aWZGB3JkQmyDVNL7#fight=1 is the log from yesterday. Yes the rotation needs improvments. And i know i dont have enchants etc but they are currently against our rules.
First question: Is there something i do generally wrong or is it more a do stuff better and more often.
Second question: When is a good point to transition to another talentsetup? I currently work with Sudden Demise because in lower inis it worked just fine, but today i doesnt seem to catch up anymore
Tl;dr: Roast me, dont mention gear.

[subtle tundra]

i mean, youre doing 15s at some point it IS gear

[gilded oasis]

first thing you did wrong was pick a sin rogue.

There might be a point where going to cleave build might be better but idk if that relies more on 4piece or is fine on its own to be honest.. Might want to test it out and see though

[subtle tundra]

nvm gear isnt the worst

i notice your first snd is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay late

[fleet pagoda]

the sin experience varies wildly by key level. main thing to focus on is getting garrotes out; a few ruptures if you take Scent of Blood. don't sit on your CD's. if you take crimson tempest maybe; garrote-garrote-ct

[subtle tundra]

there isnt a rule about swapping talents around

you can just try playing more talent setups and see which works best for each key

depends too much on comp, how you pull, affixes

there arent any big differences between playstyles

[fleet pagoda]

I'm also randomly picking the third boss to look at, you didn't put rupture up until like 20s into the fight

you'll wanna usually get that out as part of your opening gambit

at least on bosses*

that uptime should be pretty close to 100% on a boss like that. did a miserable job clipping it, but as compared to 70%

[south tendon]

SnD uptime and rupture, im working on. Installed a few Weakauras and another platerprofile to keep better uptimes

[fleet pagoda]

yeah if you can wrangle those in, it's just a matter of maintaining spatter and mastering the deathmark/kingsbane window priorities, rotation

[south tendon]

Is the targetamplifier from CT snapshot or only living targets?

[gilded oasis]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[gilded oasis]

theres some widely used WAs and plater profiles

[junior yoke]

tthank u, i'm fucking blind 🙂

[fleet pagoda]

good question. i'm not sure if the answer to that would change your priority though. might be one to save for whispyr when he's around

[south tendon]

Or to rephrase the question: On Bosses with short living adds (like Eranog in ToT) is it worth is to cast CT on the totem he summons or just Rupture+Garrote and follow with Envenom?

[gilded oasis]

better example might be like first boss EB. I think CT is better at 3+ target?

still dont know the answer though tbh

[runic hinge]

You cast ct with 4 targets and I’m pretty sure it does keep the damage amp so I’ve been doing that on bosses with that many adds

[keen spruce]

what damage amp

[south tendon]

Ok. Yeah my bad thought 2 targets was the cap. Ill fix that

CT reads: "....Deals extra damage when multiple enemies are afflicted, increasing by 20% per target, up to 100%....."

[runic hinge]

Where it does more damage the more targets it hits. But doesn’t scale down as they die

[keen spruce]

oh i have no idea

[gilded oasis]

Yeah but it doesnt become worth the cast until 4 (I guess?) + targets

[keen spruce]

I always thought that was just a balancing tool

not like something you actually play around

something to do with split damage

to make it scale properly

[runic hinge]

Well like on last boss tott I’ll cast ct when adds spawn and then they die super fast but I think boss keeps same damage

[keen spruce]

should be pretty easy to test

but it doesn't change the rules

[runic hinge]

Right

[keen spruce]

for ct usage

[runic hinge]

Well unless it doesn’t snapshot and changes dynamically because now it’s on less targets. But I don’t think that is the case

Not that I’ve tested it. I’m just feel crafting

[keen spruce]

i will go stab some mammoths one sec

[slate crown]

TRUNKALUMPF

[keen spruce]

yah there was some collateral damage

but it does snap

cuz this was cast one one target

but trunkalumpf died for nothing

cuz this doesn't matter

still CT at 4+

[runic hinge]

Right but the question was it worth to do even if the adds die, does the boss or whatever keep the damage

Thanks for testing tho we love the duck

[keen spruce]

i mean i don't think even talenting into CT is worth

so my answer would be no

dont press that button and don't even select it

[runic hinge]

Okay now you’re fake news

[keen spruce]

you've been spending too much time with soviet

[runic hinge]

I’ve been spending all my time in 23 keys with noobs

If I don’t do the damage no one will

[keen spruce]

i haven't done an assas key in like a month

and I went up 3 ranks in the region

cuz i swapped to assas for iridikron in a 28 fall

and it counted the whole key as assas

so i got like 16 io

[woven frost]

So you’re saying there is hope to overthrow you from Realm 1 at some point?

[subtle tundra]

yep assa is a mediocre m+ spec that was hyped up by rework being fun to play ;3

[keen spruce]

i mean if it didn't get nerfed

it woulda been very good

but the problem isn't just the damage nerf

[subtle tundra]

still a LOT behind outlaw/sub

[keen spruce]

it's that restless blades exists

so outlaw has evasion up all the time

[subtle tundra]

and has better dmg 😉

[keen spruce]

I think assas was better than sub before the nerfs

in keys

[woven frost]

I wish they’d give us a little oompf back in M+. I like how it plays, but the peer pressure to play outlaw due to the near 100k difference is a lot

[subtle tundra]

it was cause people didnt know to play it

[keen spruce]

assas overall doesn't matter

it's basically just a bby fire mage

you're killing important things

outlaw and sub are padlords

[subtle tundra]

but you're actually just squishier than fire mage

LOL

as a rogue

[keen spruce]

yeah since you're not stacking vers

like

my pirate set has like 44% vers

and i get restless blades on evasion

so it's up like very 30s

[subtle tundra]

and its a season where 90% of a key is surviving

[woven frost]

And suffer a little from the pull style. Fire mages don’t.

[keen spruce]

and i get 5% more stamina cuz pirate

fire definitely suffers from bad pulls

[subtle tundra]

but its ok since assa is now middle of the pack in raid with PI, so its "balanced"

and wont get any buffs

[keen spruce]

like assas wouldn't have been "meta" even pre nerf in keys

cuz of the survivability

but after the nerfs and the mage buffs

and mage bringing int and lust

[subtle tundra]

we're always the cucks of the rogue specs

[keen spruce]

no room for assas

[woven frost]

Fire mages do better with chain pulls no?

[keen spruce]

sometimes to maintain an skb

but assas doesn't care about chain pulling or not chain pulling

not compared to OL at least

[woven frost]

True

[subtle tundra]

the one season where we have an actual m+ build we get just completely fucked

[woven frost]

I run with a bouncy demon hunter. I feel the only time I’m spreading anything with IC is from a SD window

[subtle tundra]

and i wanted to push this season

[woven frost]

You can still technically push. The climb is just harder

[subtle tundra]

what i mean push is do highest key -1

[spice spire]

Whatcha pushing bud

[subtle tundra]

which is technically possible.... but not really

cause then i'd need a whole comp built around me

which is unreasonable

[woven frost]

That’s understandable

[subtle tundra]

i healed 4 lfr bosses

today

so i have 3 vault slots on my monk to get a socket if bad RNG

uwu

[spice spire]

Nice

[maiden rover]

Pushin for ur return

[spice spire]

Don’t I know it

You’re not the only one

[woven frost]

I’m holding onto hope that Blizzard will give us a little bump or nudge in the M+ department. It seems a shame to waste assassination. Our play style is fun in keys. Just need to numbers to match (and survivability)

[subtle tundra]

sheesh

you know its bad when zerocool goes outlaw

💀

but its fine, we are good for like 2 things in the raid

👍