assassination

[primal elk]

In my head it’s a gain even if I clip some of it and my pi dies worst case

[woeful meteor]

send with lust

sending earlier also desyncs from augs breath and you loose more raid dmg

[primal elk]

Yeah I figured. I sort of just instinctively do everything/don’t really think but figured id check in case of any math wizards

[woeful meteor]

it's prog if you dont get your full final CD set be happy that boss died fast

[primal elk]

Cus I peaked like 850k burst on logs in lust and I think I’d lose a ton

Yeah that’s what I thought

Cus we’re pushing into p3 at like 40-41 then ye

Plus it’s leeway if anyone does fall off and I just gain in that case

Sounds good

[woeful meteor]

soon

[gaunt sigil]

We are so close

[balmy condor]

dies today for sure

[gaunt sigil]

We still got an hour thirty left

[balmy condor]

yeh

easily dies today

and then you can join me in p1 fyrakk hell

[gaunt sigil]

I just need this nugget dead

[runic hinge]

You got this!

[gaunt sigil]

First time in 450 pulls

I get parried by tswift

[spice spire]

It’s the kill 2

[gaunt sigil]

ITS DEAD

a 91 while doing bombs :3

Noodle arm build 🔛 🔝

[slate crown]

Grats!

[woeful meteor]

gz

also that

[gaunt sigil]

Yeah I am kinda mindblown, No aug, No PI, Noodle arm build, Doing bombs

Got 91

Must have been crit rng

[woeful meteor]

whats that loot, we out here getting triple mail hands on first kill

[gaunt sigil]

Venerated, 2 Suncallers, Ashes

[balmy condor]

ashes from tindral

impressive

[gaunt sigil]

sorry

Bow

It says ashen in it lol

Brain fry got to me

[woeful meteor]

we killed Fyraak with 6 489 Trinkets across the raid, loot was def something this tier

[gaunt sigil]

87.4% Fist pull

[woeful meteor]

7 more and Boss dead with that pace

[gaunt sigil]

I just got Rank 1 heal parse on tswift

[runic hinge]

Ez

[balmy condor]

how many leech pieces

[gaunt sigil]

Leech ashes and the galakrond or whatever legs

[balmy condor]

disgusting

[gaunt sigil]

[runic hinge]

Leech enchants or what

[gaunt sigil]

Nah

All avoidance

Ah I lied

My chest has leech too

My neck also has avoid

[balmy condor]

bruh

what the fuck

that's 3 leech and an avoidance piece

you're actually obscene

[gaunt sigil]

The galakrond legs are guarenteed leech

[balmy condor]

yeah but still

[gaunt sigil]

But other than that yeah

[balmy condor]

489 nick

[gaunt sigil]

Kinda nutty

Anyways

Here is a pic of my fat ass cat

[arctic hare]

Thicc boi

[rotund oak]

thicc

[rotund oak]

whispyr cat lvl thicc

[gaunt sigil]

I have 4 cats, pepper there is the fattest and also the youngest

[rotund oak]

ive got a dog,big one,he's old and grumpy

(cane corso)

[gaunt sigil]

@balmy condor Are you playing assa or sub on Fyrakk?

[balmy condor]

assa

[gaunt sigil]

I never heard, what was your reasoning for sub on tswift?

[balmy condor]

root damage

[gaunt sigil]

I see

[balmy condor]

before we got 2 rets and a windwalker

and an aug went dev

and our warlock went aff

we went from negative root damage

to infinite

from the start of prog to the end of prog, I was doing half the root damage

doing the exact same thing

just comp change

I could've played assa

but 300 pulls in

no point

[gaunt sigil]

Makes sense

My guild lead said I should learn sub for Fyrakk if I wanted to

Idk if its worth my time

[rotund oak]

its never wrong to learn,even if u dont play sub

it will make u a better rogue

[balmy condor]

if you didn't play sub for smold or tindral

you definitely don't need to play it on fyrakk

smolderon prog is big sub

tindral is slightly big sub

fyrakk is slight less slightly big sub

[woeful meteor]

Being able to play the other specs is never bad, but sin is very much fine on Fyrakk

[balmy condor]

ye

[deft lark]

@balmy condor do you have a full ST talent build I could use? On tindral prog atm and I think I’ve been using a cleave build and we’ve got assigned people who go aoe build for root dmg

[primal elk]

You just swap spatter but i wouldn’t because it’s not really much damage to justify the aoe loss

Unless you’re playing full aoe

[balmy condor]

you play caustic 100%

don't care what your raid leader says

not playing caustic

is insano troll

[woeful meteor]

how much is no caustic like 2%

[balmy condor]

yeah

[rotund oak]

isnt alacrity too much of a loss

but u gain acro

hmm

[balmy condor]

acro is worth for tindral

probably also fyrakk

[primal elk]

I never played it on either but idk if I’d rather it. It didn’t feel too bad on tindral

[balmy condor]

at minimum you won't notice a difference in damage

[primal elk]

I’d go sub if I wanted acro I think

[balmy condor]

at best you'll pog the fuck out cause "it feels better"

[deft lark]

Think this is the build I’ve been using

[balmy condor]

perfect

tell your raid lead to eat shit then

[deft lark]

[runic hinge]

Sending screenshots while dead

[balmy condor]

hey man

I'm having

3 conversations

across 2 discords and dm

mid raid

I'm just him

what can I say

[runic hinge]

Stream too?

[balmy condor]

you think anyone says shit in my stream chat?

I'm a no viewer andy

[rotund oak]

vip ppl 😅

[runic hinge]

Okay I’ll tune in for this last bit of work

[balmy condor]

raid done in 8 min

[deft lark]

It’s 5 am

[raven egret]

yeah my raid just ended, 55% on tindral. We'll get there... someday

[gaunt sigil]

I personally notices myself doing more dps, likely because I was able to get higher uptime during my KB windows but idk what the exact stats are

It definently felt miles better

[balmy condor]

I tested around with it on nymue, tindral, and fyrakk

Did not notice a damage difference once

But yeh dunno

[gaunt sigil]

Its really hard to tell, must be really close

Do they sim massively different?

Not having 6 combo points feels bad but having acro feels better and I might just keep running it for Tswift and Fyrakk, I didnt notice myself needing it ever on nymue

That was run with no pot oops ^

But imagine it doesnt change much

[runic hinge]

What’s that percentage wise? Like 3.5?

[gaunt sigil]

Yes, 3.1%

[runic hinge]

Nice.

Maybe I run Acro more then

I miss long arms

[gaunt sigil]

Real

[rotund oak]

i think i need acro for larodar as well

[gaunt sigil]

There is my character ran with both builds, these also have spatter cause I didnt care to change it

[runic hinge]

Spatter is like all but 2 fights anyways

[gaunt sigil]

For sure

[rotund oak]

anything that has adds

[gaunt sigil]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/b3YsXcKp3wnzsZqKQjwM1W

Here is the link in case you wanted more info

I also really like acro build cause it makes my kingsbanes bigger

And KB go brrr

[rotund oak]

mostly jealous of ashes

lost it 3 times and im getting pissed off

[gaunt sigil]

My GM also paid 65% of my helm

My helm was a BOE

[rotund oak]

u bought a boe to make it a tier set

[gaunt sigil]

mhm

[rotund oak]

talking about a fast track gearing up

[gaunt sigil]

Cause we arent reclearing for awhile so it was part of the "Final prep" for Tswift and Fyrakk

[rotund oak]

yeah makes sense

[gaunt sigil]

[rotund oak]

thats quite cool

[gaunt sigil]

Yeah, most of the gold we make from sale runs

[rotund oak]

guild has alot of gold already but we dont rly do that,at least not until we reach smoldy

maybe next week

but ill most likely switch back to sub

for smold/tswift and fyrakk

[gaunt sigil]

I just dont know how to play sub lol, so I just stuck assa

[rotund oak]

u dont rly have to play sub and in for progress or reclears

should just get a taste and if not now,for future content..

its never a loss to learn

[gaunt sigil]

Yeah, its what I did when I mained war, I learned arms cause it was better on some fights and now I just know both. Really want to do the same with rogue

[rotund oak]

thats how its done,master the class not the specc

[narrow eagle]

should i spread my bleed on aoe while Kingsbane active ?

[gaunt sigil]

But I really really love Assa. Outlaw is prolly my least fav. I have like no experience on sub

I wouldnt spread during KB

If KB is up just blast the kb target

[gaunt moat]

true, and my class is assassination

[gaunt sigil]

Oh hey notter

Question

[rotund oak]

no u need as much envenoms as possible for kb to stack up during KB,it caps out on 99 poisons or something for big dam

[gaunt sigil]

When using your KB tracker WA, is there anyway to make your records not reset when you update? Or is it just a side effect

[rotund oak]

weak

[gaunt moat]

Interesting question
WAs are able to save data to HD, such as saving the variable for your highest score.
But i'm not sure where and how it's being saved.
if it's just one long string that hold all the WA data, or on a separate file than you can later overwrite.

I'm gonna answer a "maybe?"

[gaunt sigil]

Its not an issue, just mostly wondering if there was an easy fix. That sounds more complicated than I'd ever care to do

Hit a 5.8m KB on tswift tonight though, that was fun

[slate crown]

It's in saved variables file

[gaunt moat]

Maybe when you update your WA and it asks you if you don't want to overwrite some stuff, it's an option?

[slate crown]

I actually don't know about updating auras and how it accounts for aura_env.saved which is where authors save off data between sessions

[gaunt moat]

we could do a test

[slate crown]

Hrm interesting

so they actually compress it like export strings

In theory you could go to this location in Notter's aura before an update, and copy this value out and paste it back into the Information node after the update

assuming it isn't preserved automatically

[gaunt moat]

That's what i was thinking as well with my first "maybe" answer because the data has to be saved to HDD

but maybe it's already an option when updating?

what's saved in metadata

[slate crown]

Sorry "This location" meaning here, this file

That blur is your account name

[slate crown]

Not sure, would be interested to learn the results of the test

oh and that all looks new

that's nice

I didn't know they added Categories for updates

[supple barn]

Would you guys recommend Assassination for a guy that is a starter as a rogue?

[livid mesa]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[rotund oak]

definitely

sin is the best to start and continue if u want

[runic hinge]

I think all 3 rogue specs are alright but assa is the most fun imo

[rotund oak]

a very well rounded specc for new rogues

[supple barn]

thanks

[rotund oak]

u r welcome friend

[gaunt moat]

i would say feral is the best for starter rogue

[runic hinge]

That's how I got my start

[rotund oak]

feral compared to rogue is what a Vespa is for a Racing Bike

bad starter to even compare

[plain moon]

So on Tindral I got the ranged dispel while 0 ppl were dead yet, can somebody make it make sense?

[blazing jewel]

Not enough ranged

[plain moon]

547 pulls on that boss

and it never happened

pull 548 it happened

[blazing jewel]

Idk

Small indie company

[plain moon]

it was the kill pull too

tindral saw it, and just wanted to snipe my parse

[slate crown]

comsic ray interference in the tubes

it's the only explanation

[quiet oar]

Wasnt there some case like that for a Mario 64 Speedrun

[plain moon]

at least I can say easy mechanic why did range wipe to that so many times

[slate crown]

yes

[clever sapphire]

im pretty sure its the healers that wipe to that, because they dispell too soon or late

[plain moon]

could be it yeah

its a mechanic im to melee to understand

just never wanted to put 1brain cell into it

[deft lark]

Any1 else is getting a slideshow on tindral? I’ve got like 3 fps when beams and star shower comes out lol no potato pc either lol

[oak tangle]

does anyone else search group finder for raids with 'prog' or 'guild' in them?

[quiet oar]

Guild for heroics

If its a mythic guild

[oak tangle]

i wanna find a prog heroic guild and help them clear

i also need to find a pocket priest to go parse with

[deft lark]

I’ve a level 40 priest can easily give you pi and port out 😉

[quiet oar]

[oak tangle]

lol XD

i haven't set any parses since 10.2.5

and i was late to the party in 10.2

[spice spire]

Casual

[oak tangle]

this is the only way i can get upgrades atm, and i dont do mythic raid

[quiet oar]

You either full send

or do the quake way

[oak tangle]

legit praying on mythic dagger from vault

[quiet oar]

Like we all

[oak tangle]

bout my only option

[runic hinge]

wdym just loot it

[quiet oar]

There are only 2 Daggers

Guess which one i got

[oak tangle]

but i don't do mythic raid

[quiet oar]

Ye

I meant M+

[oak tangle]

oh rip

[quiet oar]

There are only 2 Daggers

[oak tangle]

hey, 6 ilvl is still 6 ilvl

[spice spire]

Log review and hang out in a wow discord all day despite not playing for four months now?

[oak tangle]

this me or u

[spice spire]

Me

[quiet oar]

I wanted to say, free yourself of the burden that is playing WoW

[runic hinge]

just loot it

[quiet oar]

But also yours is correct

[oak tangle]

true, i've been levelling a second rogue for something to do

[quiet oar]

When im Clear

I dont care anymore

Ill get my Outlaw Gear

[runic hinge]

in 2 weeks I'll think I want to play outlaw and I'll try and get a weapon from vault and then I'll hit dummys and never take it into an instance

[quiet oar]

Based ?

[royal lantern]

very based

[oak tangle]

i went to play outlaw a while ago, my transmog on it was shit, so i swapped back

[brazen zodiac]

wowzers

i should try that !

[runic hinge]

Hehe, its a good plan

[brazen zodiac]

fool proof hehe

[oak tangle]

i mean if you don't loot it, you will not loot it

[grim jay]

50% chance on each vault slot

[oak tangle]

i was honestly expecting to loot it on my alt rogue

[quiet oar]

Ye 50%

[grim jay]

I had a rogue in my group that had 1 single mythic track item equipped and even slots with blue items

He had the dagger

[oak tangle]

priorities

[grim jay]

He knows what he wants I guess

[plain moon]

That’s how my alt ret pally prob looks to ppl of that class. Still wearing gear from last season but have the Lego

[oak tangle]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[earnest remnant]

cuh, im about to hit filter on yo ass

[subtle tundra]

💀

i barely play the game

[hardy dagger]

It's really fucking cursed how it's a get lucky this week or get shafted

[quiet oar]

I mean

[subtle tundra]

its like a 1k dps upgrade

[quiet oar]

Its just on par

[subtle tundra]

thats not getting shafted

[quiet oar]

With mythig Signet

on 5 Minutes

[spice surge]

Its an insane trinket for tindral though

For assa too

[quiet oar]

Yeah ok

But Mythic Sginet isnt good on Tindral

But its not like, you will lose tons of dmg if you are unlucky

Or is it basically like this

[plain moon]

It’s good?

[spice surge]

Having a proc up for pull and every single shield is very good

[quiet oar]

It has a timer?

[balmy condor]

HUH

[spice surge]

Yes, 1:45 icd

Doesnt proc on bleeds (unless sanguine blades proc it, havent tested)

[willow grotto]

For what ? 😂

[balmy condor]

The 1:45 icd on matrix is giga cursed

[spice surge]

Ye, but on tindral and gnarlroot its fine

[quiet oar]

Its incosistent

[plain moon]

Nah it’s consistently good

[balmy condor]

Yeah tindral and gnarlroot you can leverage the intermission

Everything else it’s doomed af

[spice surge]

Yep

[balmy condor]

Okay? So is the rest of the fking spec

Welcome to rng

[earnest remnant]

signet is a garbage ass trinket

fuck that shit

friendship ended with that fucker

[subtle tundra]

signet was BUSSIN for me on prog

[earnest remnant]

new best friend is pips

[balmy condor]

It’s inconsistent but on average it’s VERY good

[subtle tundra]

on tindral

[quiet oar]

Ye but you can use another Passive for tindral

[balmy condor]

Why would you

[willow grotto]

Mythic tindral

[quiet oar]

Ye quantity doesnt prove quality

[willow grotto]

If he was bad he wouldn't play

[quiet oar]

I looked at the logs when i started progging

[plain moon]

Signet is def bis for M tindral

[quiet oar]

and it was incosistend af

[balmy condor]

You’re right, signet should be higher

[earnest remnant]

cant speak for assa

but signet as sub on tindral

is garbo

[quiet oar]

I mean is there a difference

For it

[earnest remnant]

hasted proc

[quiet oar]

For sub and sin

yeah

ok

true

[plain moon]

Sub likes 2x on use there too

[subtle tundra]

i havent noticed stacks dropping on tindral

[plain moon]

Or does sometimes idk how u choose between

[quiet oar]

Nope

[balmy condor]

HUH

[quiet oar]

Its not about stacks dropping

More about less uptime and proccing it in shield etc.

[willow grotto]

The stacks are not supposed to drop since you stay in combat

[plain moon]

Idk maybe I’m wrong on sub, the other rogues in my guild ran 2x on use sub

[earnest remnant]

only reason you would ever wanna go 2x on use as sub is if you are perma down, and you are the main source of dmg for roots

[plain moon]

And I played sin on it

[subtle tundra]

well, it was bussing for me on prog so its a great trinket for me

[balmy condor]

Shield isn’t really an issue ever

[quiet oar]

No i know

But thats an RNG factor, if you porc it in shields its "higher"

[balmy condor]

I don’t get it then

I mean sure

[quiet oar]

Which makes it more incosistent

[balmy condor]

If anything procs during the shield it’s higher

That’s how procs work

[earnest remnant]

only boss fight im equipping signet is fyrakk

[balmy condor]

Doesn’t mean the trinket sucks

Signet is crazy good

[willow grotto]

the dps boost given by the orbs on tindral I think they are not taken into account on warcraftlogs

[balmy condor]

What

[earnest remnant]

they are

[willow grotto]

I'm not sure

[balmy condor]

Bro I feel like the huh cat

[plain moon]

Shield is gone before we ramp hard anyways, kinda sad

[dark token]

It's good on council or nymue if ur killtime is long as well

[balmy condor]

I open chat and like 4 people have said something that makes my eyes glaze over

[earnest remnant]

well duh, its good on anything with consistent uptime and a longer kill timer

[agile geode]

is that trink bis?

[balmy condor]

Signet? Yes

[agile geode]

the new one

[spice surge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-gif-26526118

[balmy condor]

The what

What new one

Nothing new has come out

[agile geode]

lol

[dark token]

Anyone progging bosses should probably equip it for anything that isn't smold, gnarlroot or volocross

[agile geode]

nvm whyspyr i'll sim it

[balmy condor]

What is it

Bro just tell me what the fucking trinket is

[earnest remnant]

the matrix

[balmy condor]

I ain’t a mind reader

[plain moon]

I did add under that that I also am sub idiot tho. Guess I was very wrong about 2x on use

[earnest remnant]

from raggy

[subtle tundra]

its mid af

[balmy condor]

Matrix sucks shit

[subtle tundra]

slightly better than peep

[dark token]

Which means it's godmode for keys

[balmy condor]

Not really a new trinket though it comes around on timewalking rotation all the time

[subtle tundra]

which means it rots in my inventory, i aint playing keys on rogue

[balmy condor]

And it’s never good

[dark token]

The icd makes it line up with deathmark

[balmy condor]

Cause it never lines up

Except for like eleem said

[dark token]

In keys u have downtime

[willow grotto]

My bad, I saw this, I thought it was the dps buff

[balmy condor]

Where you can cheese

[quiet oar]

I know its crazy good, but it has its flaws on Tindral.

[balmy condor]

So tindral and gnarl

[quiet oar]

Thats the only thing i wanted to say

[balmy condor]

You haven’t mentioned any of these flaws though

[plain moon]

Tbh even if you had a good one I think only use is Gnarl

[dark token]

It's still better than any other proc trinket except maybe matrix on tindral

[balmy condor]

You’ve just stated how procs work

“Inconsistent” is not a flaw

[dark token]

I would consider 2x on use over signet on sub on tindral but I don't think sandglass is better for example

Maybe matrix might line up on shields and it's good idk I don't have

[subtle tundra]

too bad this is the assa channel

so we're talking about assa

therefore signet goated

[dark token]

Ye so u would use signet

[quiet oar]

The uptime is also relevant

[balmy condor]

What about the uptime

[earnest remnant]

pips>signet on tindral

[quiet oar]

Flying etc.

Hurts that trinket

[plain moon]

Uptime affects every trinket tho

[dark token]

Don't have

[balmy condor]

Yeah

I don’t really get what that argument is

[subtle tundra]

it hurts that trinket just as much as it hurts others, do you think pips proccing while flying is good

[balmy condor]

Flying hurts your melee damage too I guess

Idk

You’re not doing anything while flying

But your trinkets aren’t doing anything either

So who cares

[earnest remnant]

only difference being, signet is a ramp up trinket, and pips is a consistent stat proc trinket

[balmy condor]

Not like you can fly faster or get more uptime

[quiet oar]

Ye what stealthi says

But prob as Sin with more haste

[plain moon]

Actually I’m proccing sophic while flying and crying

[quiet oar]

its ramps fast enough

[balmy condor]

But you’re on the boss for like 7 minutes

That’s more than enough time

That’s got nothing to do with flying

[quiet oar]

its prob 5 minute fight time

[balmy condor]

And everything to do with just fight length

[subtle tundra]

which fly do you mean? the bomb ones?

[quiet oar]

1-2 minute fly time

[balmy condor]

Nah bro you’re cooked for that

[royal lantern]

i count that as an improvment, thats 3x less then ussual

[balmy condor]

2 minute?

[quiet oar]

prob more like 1:30

[balmy condor]

You unlocked the secret fourth platform or something

[earnest remnant]

ill open vod lets find out

[quiet oar]

Its like 10 seconds for every bomb?

[balmy condor]

If it’s anything longer than 1:30 I will eat a sock

[quiet oar]

and prob 50 seconds flying platforms

[subtle tundra]

its 5

[quiet oar]

With getting to the feather and mountin

idk

[balmy condor]

Yeah bombs are whatever

[quiet oar]

But yeah, im prob wrong about it

and was overthinking

because it was so incosistent in logs

[balmy condor]

You can certainly play other trinkets

[subtle tundra]

on prog kill, signet did 4.38% of my overall dmg, and 5.79% of my boss dmg

[balmy condor]

But signet cranks

[royal lantern]

signet is bis everywhere

people that say otherwise just dont highroll good enough

skill issue tbh

just gamble better

[balmy condor]

That’s cooked

[plain moon]

Just don’t be like me and forget to take signet and caustic off every week on volc reclear

[subtle tundra]

ive been rolling sandglass everywhere cause im too lazy to swap to signet

[balmy condor]

Fight time lower = average also lower

[royal lantern]

just get max stacks in under 90seconds, whats the problem

[subtle tundra]

also been playing internal bleeding on every boss except first 2

cause im too lazy to swap

🫡

[balmy condor]

I’m not even sure it’s able to proc that fast with lust and pi

[earnest remnant]

1:31

there ya go

[royal lantern]

idk man, that trinket is just such a dogshit gamble machine

[subtle tundra]

as if the whole spec aint

[balmy condor]

Rppm has a hidden icd that gets checked every 7.5 seconds or something I forget how the math works out it’s kinda cursed

15 stacks in 90 seconds

[earnest remnant]

yes i added 1 sec

for the sock

im sorry

[balmy condor]

Would be once every 6

And I don’t think it’s allowed to proc that

[quiet oar]

Whispyr Sock eating when

[balmy condor]

No sock then

Chester

[quiet oar]

[balmy condor]

I ain’t eatin

[earnest remnant]

1:30 is with flying twice in p3

[balmy condor]

Will only eat a provided sock

Stealthi send me sock

[quiet oar]

[plain moon]

Worn how many days before?

He works out in them first?

[balmy condor]

Run 3km in summer heat

Then put into plastic container

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

Seal container for freshness

Put in box

[plain moon]

Freeze it or no?

[balmy condor]

Express delivery 2 day air

To my doorstep

[earnest remnant]

look at that end of p1 dam tho

mans was crankin

[balmy condor]

Who

[royal lantern]

me

[plain moon]

Aff lock

[blazing jewel]

Buff consata

[royal lantern]

i care

[blazing jewel]

Ret sucks

[earnest remnant]

look our fyrakk

no he does not need any

broken ass class man

[subtle tundra]

says the sub rogue

[balmy condor]

Aff lock solos the roots

[plain moon]

Doesn’t demo do more?

[blazing jewel]

Why did they do that to ret

[plain moon]

Idk I’m idiot warlock

[balmy condor]

Our demo swapped aff and got like +25% root

Just padding

Dunno

[earnest remnant]

fucking like 273k fyrakk

[plain moon]

We just added a lock

[balmy condor]

Didn’t look at numbers too close

[earnest remnant]

straight up not okay

[plain moon]

We progged all of tindral no lock

[balmy condor]

But he went demo and then said fuck it, swapped aff

[blazing jewel]

Bro did more boss damage than your feral did total

[balmy condor]

And root damage stonked

[blazing jewel]

And your feral didn’t do bad

[earnest remnant]

i inted

[royal lantern]

cus rets where crying for the last 4months that the spec is unplayable, cus WEEKLY WOWHEAD OVERALL DMG had the pink bar low

[earnest remnant]

it was sadge

[balmy condor]

Probably lost boss damage or something

Going aff

Idk

But he was like 17% of our root damage

Shits ridiculous

[plain moon]

Pretty huge

[balmy condor]

Was basically equal to me, warrior, and ret

Combined

[blazing jewel]

Holy priest

[earnest remnant]

i might have pressed BP on the first tree set

just maybe

[royal lantern]

death

[subtle tundra]

stealing warlock's pad is acceptable

[balmy condor]

Who

[royal lantern]

bp pressers 👉 🚪

[earnest remnant]

your mum

[blazing jewel]

[royal lantern]

emote is a dog

from a discord server called Cats

[earnest remnant]

if you dont stop sassing me whispyr, imm have to fly to murica, pick up Oxi and Quake and come kiss you

[royal lantern]

[plain moon]

That’s nuts lol

[balmy condor]

Bros just in assa linking sub detail meters from 13 seconds into fight like chats full of askers

Smh

[earnest remnant]

thats 1min in

but mkay

[balmy condor]

That’s what I said

[blazing jewel]

Whisp I have something for you

[balmy condor]

That’s okay thank you though

[subtle tundra]

do you even do bomb

[earnest remnant]

yes

[blazing jewel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bRocAvQ6GSCywwW814XuQ7
What the fuck is this

[subtle tundra]

cool bomb doers

[royal lantern]

secret tech doesnt count, he means the bomb mechanic

[earnest remnant]

yes tryan

i do fly

im on first feathers

[subtle tundra]

well its 900k dps with bomb dmg

😉

[balmy condor]

Idk I’m in bed I don’t wanna answer your riddles bridge troll

Tell me what I’m looking at

[royal lantern]

first feather gang 👋

[blazing jewel]

That sin st sims says 209

[balmy condor]

Yeah

Okay

And?

[subtle tundra]

yea assa is dogwater what about it

[blazing jewel]

I’m going to piss on the door handles of Blizz hq

For what they did to sin

[subtle tundra]

you have 0 haste gear

[royal lantern]

after you licked them?

[subtle tundra]

LOL

[blazing jewel]

Ya I swapped from sub for a guesstimate

[balmy condor]

@blazing jewel run sim again but add gear_agility=19677 to the bottom

Number will be higher

You’re welcome

[blazing jewel]

Bros trying to get me to hack into the mainframe

[royal lantern]

confirming once again that the sims are rigged

[quiet oar]

Yo Whisp a hackerman

fr

[balmy condor]

Bro I got my sim to say 42069 dps in shadowlands

I’m kind of a gangster

[royal lantern]

thats why the sims are low, whisp is hiding the REAL sims and builds

common knowledge

[balmy condor]

(It took 3 hours of hitting sim again over and over and over)

[blazing jewel]

Had to high roll

[balmy condor]

I’ve been accused of this so much this patch

Assa good then why sim bad whispyr

Idk

Be like that

[plain moon]

Sin rogue sand bagging sims confirmed? New wowhead post inc

[balmy condor]

Do you see something wrong with the sim or have an idea for something to try?

No?

You just bitch that the number is low?

Then fuck off

Lmao

[royal lantern]

what? you mean reality is not a 5min target dummy, and has things like "burst windows" and "dmg patterns"?

nah

its all sandbagging

[blazing jewel]

Is it a cooked take that it seems fairly easy to play sin close to what the sim does so it seems like it’s over performing compared to sim

Idk if that made sense

But most people are not doing what the sub sim does so they will not achieve those results

[balmy condor]

Assa is a BAD spec (still overtuned in heroic and top 5 in mythic), the last round of tuning KILLED the spec (it’s above average), if you don’t get PI it’s DOGSHIT (I have no idea what I’m talking about)

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/gangsta-yo-sup-mc-lovin-christopher-mintz-plase-gif-6041554

[balmy condor]

Not really cooked, assassination right now is just idiot check for can you do the same 10 button sequence every minute. We talk about chaining a lot but it’s only like 1.5% compared to playing like an ape with your energy

So

It is very easy to hit simDPS most of the time

Everything lines up and has a strict sequence

You just gotta proc 5head

[dark token]

Are you black powdering every root set

[blazing jewel]

Need some shmeeps sophic uptime fr

[dark token]

The most I see end of p1 is like 500-600k max

[balmy condor]

If you’re able to env-dm-shiv-sd+kb-gar-env

You’re like 95% of the way to sin mastery

Kinda fried

[earnest remnant]

no

[balmy condor]

But is what it is

[earnest remnant]

some of em

[dark token]

Or 2x on use trinket on treants?

[earnest remnant]

i played pips

[dark token]

I only black powder non dragonriding sets and guild already gives me shit for it

[blazing jewel]

Have to make sure you’re at the 13.743 haste breakpoint too

[balmy condor]

That’s why I’m really hoping for some more dynamic resource gameplay with 11.0

[earnest remnant]

our main root guy

wanted to play single target affli

[blazing jewel]

Without that you can’t parse

[dark token]

What is with people obsession with funnel on sub

[earnest remnant]

so i was on root duty

[dark token]

"u pressed black powderrrr" 4x

Meanwhile rets or dhs

[balmy condor]

I remember when sanguine blades came out and people were like haha I’m just gonna set 50% energy on my weakaura to 0

And like

They’re fucking idiots obviously

But the fact that it wouldn’t be insano trolling

Is a bit disappointing

All the energy stuff is a correct step

But it’s the punishment/reward for playing around it properly isn’t there yet, cause the depth isn’t there yet

[blazing jewel]

Bring back old exsang

[balmy condor]

What would that achieve

[royal lantern]

delete both

[blazing jewel]

60 lines on the apl

[balmy condor]

60 lines on the apl and all the cooldown sequences are just as rigid as they are now

Pog

Having to answer the 3 people every tier asking if we exsang on cooldown for energy

And wanting to curt cobain myself

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

Having to explain haste snapshots

Kill me

The fact that exsang made it out of legion beta when they couldn’t make blood sweat work

Is actually such a blunder

They fumbled that shit so bad

[raven flower]

no worries, with all the reorgs and layoffs they are about to enter the golden age of class design

also where are the hero talents previews

smh

[quiet oar]

Whisp where Hero Talent review

[balmy condor]

Can’t be any worse than 6 years of Exsanguinate when it shouldn’t have been on test servers for more than 6 weeks

[plain moon]

Just as long as they nerf sub

[royal lantern]

based hater take

[dark token]

Sub doesn't need nerf

[quiet oar]

???

[balmy condor]

The fact that sub has matrix dodged every tuning pass so far

Is insane to me

[dark token]

Sin didn't need the last nerf

Tbf

It's ok to be strong

[raven flower]

shadowsteps behind the hammer

[dark token]

As long as ur not op

[royal lantern]

well, no cloak cd

[dark token]

There is always a pack leader

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/what-surprised-gif-25739412

The initial patch that dh got nerfed and I didn’t see sub on there

And every patch after that

[balmy condor]

I will remain strong and not click the blocked message spoilers on my screen

It’s gonna have cooked shit in it

My therapist will reprimand me

[quiet oar]

Sub is fine on Tindral and Smolderon

[balmy condor]

For opening the forbidden fruit

[raven flower]

echoing reprimand mentioned

[balmy condor]

My mental is stronger

[royal lantern]

he said sub dorntt need nerfs, just that the 2nd assa nerf was stupid

[quiet oar]

I can tell you one cooked thing "Sub doesnt need a nerf"

[royal lantern]

cant avoid the forbidden fruit whisp

[balmy condor]

LALALALALALA

I CANT HEAR YOU

[quiet oar]

[dark token]

It could use a single target tune down in exchange for aoe buffs

[balmy condor]

Thank you

[quiet oar]

Scana isnt blocked

wtf

[midnight mist]

np

[blazing jewel]

Listen here bozo

[dark token]

Sub is fine on overall dmg but a bit too high dmg to bosses

[midnight mist]

of course scana is blocked

[quiet oar]

But?

[midnight mist]

scana is blocked for everyone

[balmy condor]

Who is scana

[dark token]

I would take some dungeon/aoe buffs in exchange for st nerf

[royal lantern]

what is scana

[blazing jewel]

I’ll swap back to blue name rn

[quiet oar]

Scana deez nuts

[agile geode]

at 2nd nerf even sub should've be nerfed

[balmy condor]

Sub should’ve gotten a nerf alongside the first assa nerf

Let’s not joke around here

[royal lantern]

^

[balmy condor]

They were both crazy good during race

Post race tuning assa got a nerf, sub should’ve gotten a nerf too

And just… didn’t

[midnight mist]

yue and outlaw a buff

[raven flower]

I didn't want to play my rogue because of the race fotm tbh

[balmy condor]

Kinda agree

[dark token]

Keep dreaming

[blazing jewel]

Where is the throwing Zac a baguette gif

[dark token]

It's already op in keys

[subtle tundra]

sub didnt have PI inflated numbers

[plain moon]

It reminded me of VoTI when both outlaw and sub were nuts, but then outlaw got nerfed like 3 weeks in a row and sub got a bugfix that was a buff

[balmy condor]

Don’t think outlaw needed much though

[midnight mist]

ye well not in raid

[dark token]

And outlaw is still very good in raid

What

It's like top 5

[midnight mist]

I just want to see outlaw in race once

[balmy condor]

Just bad raid profile for outlaw

Too much downtime

[midnight mist]

cant play it on end bosses tho

[balmy condor]

Too much burst

[dark token]

Just other specs were better

[midnight mist]

like does it matter if outlaw is good on first bosses

if you cant play outlaw on relevant bosses

but thats just fight design

blizzard went degen

its ok

[balmy condor]

Outlaw will bang again next expac

[midnight mist]

[dark token]

It's still good on fyrakk now anyway

Just during race sin was very op

[midnight mist]

idk I was watching zeross trying to pull it off

[quiet oar]

Not with wcl invalidating er bug

[midnight mist]

they couldnt do shield

so

[raven flower]

can't wait to see what shite I mean well designed concil fight they will come up with next

[midnight mist]

and he is still progging rn

[earnest remnant]

we mega overkill shield

[dark token]

Rogues are top shield dam but you would move some more CDs to it

[blazing jewel]

Is the shield a hard check for guilds

[balmy condor]

Stealthi you’re not allowed to be a metric for anything

[midnight mist]

ye but isnt that the issue tho

[earnest remnant]

ok mb

[balmy condor]

Colour doesn’t struggle on a dps check

[midnight mist]

have a rogue solo shield

[balmy condor]

What a fucking surprise

[midnight mist]

or have 5 people that cd p2 have to cd shield instead

[balmy condor]

Guild that does 15% more dps than 99.98% of guilds has damage

[royal lantern]

hey, atleast they benched me for 2ret paladins that are 2/9 🙂

🙂

god, its so much fun watching that shithole burn

[midnight mist]

I mean maybe its skill issue

[quiet oar]

Becasue you are sin

[raven flower]

there's so many rets now

[midnight mist]

you always complain about getting benched tryan

[dark token]

1 I understand

But 2?

U did something wrong

[balmy condor]

There’s always a ton of rets

[raven flower]

yeah but even more now after the buffs

[balmy condor]

You just see them come out of the woodwork when they’re good

[quiet oar]

Tryan OTPs sin

[raven flower]

if you want to see sandbagging just check their disc

[plain moon]

Both the rets in my guild said they were gonna embarrass the rogues on tindral dmg since the buffs

[quiet oar]

Thats prob why he gets benched

[midnight mist]

ye sure

you get benched from playing sin on fyrakk

[quiet oar]

WHile Sin is completely fine

[royal lantern]

cus its always the same pattern mate

->join a guild

->guild has some mediocre sucess and goes full idiot

->"we NEED god comp now, you are out until reclears"

[balmy condor]

Tryan is opening the forbidden fruit

[royal lantern]

[midnight mist]

its not about comp

arent you in zeross guild now

and he was playing outlaw on fyrakk fine

didnt get benched

[balmy condor]

Other way around

[midnight mist]

yes

[balmy condor]

Zeross is in tryan guild now

[midnight mist]

well

[royal lantern]

nah, i got asked to play sub, said no, they recruited zeross and 2ret paladins and benched me

[balmy condor]

Zeross is tryan replacement

[midnight mist]

all im saying is I have seen zeross playing outlaw on fyrakk

you alwyas complain about "being benched for god comp"

[quiet oar]

Yeah but zeross obeyed to play sub

Tryan didnt

[balmy condor]

Bozo ass guild replaced one OTP with another

Incredible stuff

[royal lantern]

he litearlly told me that mate

lol

[quiet oar]

Nah Zeross plays sub too

[midnight mist]

look I wont argue with you because I dont want to be mean

[balmy condor]

My apologies to subtlety

[quiet oar]

Ye

[earnest remnant]

cant win em all

[dark token]

I mean this is the danger of being otp

U accept being benched occasionally

[balmy condor]

Tryan think of the cost of therapy

Don’t do it

[royal lantern]

do what

[quiet oar]

Arguing with soviet

[balmy condor]

Open the spoiler

[quiet oar]

[plain moon]

Don’t touch the shadowdust

[dark token]

Sin is still really fucking good on fyrakk assuming u get pi

[balmy condor]

[royal lantern]

mate, im done anyway with the place

waiting for replies

[balmy condor]

Based

I mean you let Zeross win

Not based

But knowing your worth and moving on

Based

[quiet oar]

You mean Tompelvis

[royal lantern]

can do their endless overtime and bonus days cus they suddenky want hof with somebody else

[quiet oar]

Well

He isnt Tompelvis anymore

[quiet oar]

Oh they do that now?

[dark token]

Still dunno how I piss off whispyr so much by existing but it's impressive how much he talks about me still despite blocking

[midnight mist]

red name

thats why

[quiet oar]

He sees your blocked messages

[midnight mist]

I do the same

block all red names

[quiet oar]

And anticipates cooked things

[dark token]

Reading a baked take isn't really something that makes me angry u know

[quiet oar]

Which is a 50/50 chance

[dark token]

I just laugh at it

[quiet oar]

I dont think its that

But yeah

[blazing jewel]

8

[midnight mist]

nope

you are blocked

[dark token]

I should block yellows it would make me happier

[quiet oar]

But zac

Isnt yellow

[midnight mist]

good thing im not yellow then

[quiet oar]

If you said

[dark token]

Zac is actually ok unlike most yellows

[limber lion]

Racism in Assassination

[quiet oar]

You should block all poohs

[limber lion]

Hmm

[midnight mist]

[dark token]

Something about the color of the green name is more soothing than a yellow one

[quiet oar]

I mean thats basically the Outlaw chat

[dark token]

I associate it with less zoomer shenanigans

[midnight mist]

ye im not a zoomer anymore

24 now

[plain moon]

Unlucky

[royal lantern]

zoomer is a mindset

not a age

[earnest remnant]

im soon to be 26

[midnight mist]

im just old and washed up now

[earnest remnant]

[midnight mist]

yep

thats why you cant play outlaw

[plain moon]

24 is like 90 in outlaw years

[royal lantern]

turning 28 this year

[limber lion]

Still Gen Z

Still zoomer

[quiet oar]

legit boomer

[limber lion]

Millenial

I'm turning 28 in a month as well

[quiet oar]

Im 26 since January

End is near

[midnight mist]

oh, do I get to keep the zoomer title forever then?

pog

[plain moon]

I just turned 22 and can already feel the boom creeping in

[limber lion]

Yes sir!

[midnight mist]

big

[limber lion]

a 60 year old zoomer is still a zoomer

[royal lantern]

i will tell you why thats not true AFTER my nap is done

[quiet oar]

I mean

Friday Noon Npas

Hit different

[blazing jewel]

Cev is for sure a zoomer at heart

[vestal wren]

happy birthday, old man

[midnight mist]

that was in december but thanks

very old now indeed

[vestal wren]

oh, it sounded like you turned 24 today

[midnight mist]

everyday is my birthday

[vestal wren]

smart

[rotund oak]

then im around 150 in outlaw years

[gusty mirage]

happy birthday!

[spice spire]

Happy birthday!

[shy pecan]

Happy birthday

[thorn fjord]

@midnight mist happy birthday qt

[oak tangle]

anyone doing H tindral reclear wanna get my rogue the kill, it's so hard to get invited to pugs at 466 ilvl 😦

[pseudo hamlet]

Are you on EU?

[oak tangle]

sadly no

[pseudo hamlet]

damn :/

[oak tangle]

i just need tindral for the heroic tier piece, didn't realise it was aotc only

wasn't**

[pseudo hamlet]

You could try some M+ for the catalyst

[oak tangle]

i'm hard stuck trying to get into anything above a 13 on that too. it's a weird mid point i guess. but i made the mistake of helping my guild by carrying on my other toon, so i skipped tindral lol

[thorn fjord]

I can help if ya want

Find you a group

[pseudo hamlet]

That sucks wish I could help you with that

[oak tangle]

im sitting waiting to fill atm which is good, my dh friend is on a 486 ratting me in

[thorn fjord]

Let me hop on

Im bored

need raid kills for journal anyway

[oak tangle]

come heal

XD

[thorn fjord]

Whats the group finder title

[oak tangle]

tindral.healers!

[thorn fjord]

Found it

tell em to invite

I'll carry y'all to victory

[oak tangle]

i asked them to invite

[gleaming crane]

this guy ratting at tindral at 467 ilvl

[oak tangle]

kek

some dh guy carrying me wonder who it is

[thorn fjord]

Rogue guy is carrying you now

[agile geode]

bro just yesterday tindral parried my kb for the first time, i've felt disgust

[oak tangle]

@thorn fjord fruits of our labor

[rotund oak]

larodar parried mine couple of times,soaking front right..

[thorn fjord]

Happy to help 🙂

[ashen rover]

guys how do you survive mage boss in EB after using cloak

[quaint hull]

Does it have to be heroic Rag for this BS?

[earnest remnant]

you play elusiveness and press feint

[ashen rover]

i do that already

[earnest remnant]

thats all there really is to it

after that its a healer issue

[ashen rover]

well F man

im gonna cope

[vestal wren]

could use evasion too if you are fancy