assassination

[desert inlet]

bring back calling people cool cats

[gaunt sigil]

Real

[gilded oasis]

I never stopped

[spice spire]

Ur a cool cat endwyr

[gilded oasis]

kewl kat

[gaunt sigil]

Endy is the coolest cat

[desert inlet]

[runic hinge]

Ur a cool cat quake

[spice spire]

Ur a cool cat too tony

[gaunt sigil]

Quake is a very cool cat

[spice spire]

Meowing in chat

It’s banned

[runic hinge]

Mwauahahah

[gaunt sigil]

Nya~

[runic hinge]

I’ve been playing my feral too much lately

[desert inlet]

[runic hinge]

Who wants to do firelands and funnel me the trinket

[spice spire]

I liked feral aoe

[gilded oasis]

🤮

[spice spire]

It’s st put me to sleep

[gilded oasis]

Firelands was my first raid

[desert inlet]

ow my eyeballs

[runic hinge]

It’s the same as assassination

[spice spire]

Except way slower

Somehow

[woeful meteor]

this gif ain't it at 6am

[runic hinge]

You get all your bleeds up and then you press feral frenzy and convoke

Like you get all your bleeds up and press kingsbane

[gaunt sigil]

i sorry

I get rid

[runic hinge]

And yeah. You pool for builders and for finishers so it’s slower

[woeful meteor]

ty

[spice spire]

Like I said

I sleep

Aoe was hecking fun tho

[runic hinge]

We just join a group on rag and you gib me trinket

[gilded oasis]

you're funny assuming I ever get any sort of loot to drop. gold 5ever

[spice spire]

Okay grandma let’s get you to bed

[desert inlet]

yeah I do like feral more in aoe than st

[gilded oasis]

thank god

[spice spire]

(My first raid was aq 40)

Do not speak

I know I’m old

[gilded oasis]

[desert inlet]

they should give us a stealth garrote proc thing like the rake one

[runic hinge]

Feral aoe is so fun. I really enjoy it in m+ so far

They should give us more procs. Stuff to play around is fun.

Not even having to push a separate button for blindside is

[gaunt sigil]

please please please please please please please please please please please please please

[desert inlet]

I think if I could make one change

[runic hinge]

I never even hit 60 in vanilla #trash

[pulsar ether]

!poolingtool

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[desert inlet]

it'd be that kingsbane can't crit

• tune around that

[gilded oasis]

unsubscribe

[spice spire]

True

[gaunt sigil]

I want more procs + less reliance on KB

[desert inlet]

I just don't like rng

[gaunt sigil]

It feels like a meme were there is no dam outside of kb

[woeful meteor]

I was 4 when aq40 launched

[runic hinge]

Make master assassin 100% crit and then kb always crits

[spice spire]

Cease

I was 13 but still

[woeful meteor]

skip probably wasn't even born

[spice spire]

Isn’t skip older than you

Not by a lot

But if you were 4

[desert inlet]

skip is my grandpa's name

same guy??

[woeful meteor]

isn't he 19

[spice spire]

That means you’re 22 now?

He was 19 in like 2020.

[slate crown]

Same friendo

[gilded oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/taylor-swift-22-happy-birthday-age-gif-3914142

[woeful meteor]

then I guess same age

[spice spire]

We’re literally Twinsies

[gaunt sigil]

My first full raid was VoTI

[runic hinge]

More like 42

[desert inlet]

u guys r old

[spice spire]

Except you’re smarter

[desert inlet]

my first raid was uldir

[spice spire]

Wtf dude

[slate crown]

STOP

sTOP IT

[gaunt sigil]

Boomers out here fr

[spice spire]

I skipped wotlk

[runic hinge]

My first raid was Kara because I only got to 51 in vanilla

[gilded oasis]

I raided when I was 5 idk im not that old

I had skillz

[spice spire]

By was my last consecutive raid

[desert inlet]

hell yeah

[spice spire]

Blud ur older than me

[desert inlet]

gamer prodigy

[spice spire]

Sus bucko

[blazing jewel]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/D3kryzvMn6Q9wpTV#fight=18&type=damage-done
sin rogue prodigy

I cannot be stopped

heroic council prog

[woeful meteor]

I was still closer

[gilded oasis]

holy you're huge

[desert inlet]

holy cr*p

[gilded oasis]

will you sign my stomach

[gaunt sigil]

Woah

Language

[spice spire]

Sin rogue bitch actually

[blazing jewel]

yes

[spice spire]

Ahh oh well

[desert inlet]

sin bitch

(my details name, don't steal)

[gaunt sigil]

That will be my new details

Fuck

Nvm I guess

[gilded oasis]

my details name is often "I love parry"

[spice spire]

Mine is one heal

[runic hinge]

My best parse on council is an 87 but that fight is fake and shouldn’t even give all star points

[gaunt sigil]

Mine rn is Poison Slvt

[spice spire]

Res for that

[gilded oasis]

our tanks like never stack bosses on council so i

[spice spire]

Real even

[desert inlet]

no fight with any adds should give points

[spice spire]

Anyway it is the hour of bedge gn homies

[gilded oasis]

true

[runic hinge]

I’m just happy when our tanks don’t frontal me

[gilded oasis]

ST only

[desert inlet]

volcoross purist

[spice spire]

REAL

[gaunt sigil]

I think my best is like 98 on council but I’m pretty sure that was with PI

[gilded oasis]

goodnight

[desert inlet]

gn bye forever

[gaunt sigil]

I’m die thank you forever

[woeful meteor]

gn

[rotund oak]

are u guildies with whispyr?(no offence or anything im just interrogating you 😄 )

[gilded oasis]

No i am not

I'd be too scared to raid with him

[rotund oak]

[bronze pike]

coward

i would smoke whispyr (i wont my parses are purple low yellow)

[gilded oasis]

this is the first tier in a while Im struggling. I know what I am doing wrong but idk. bad tier for me

washed

[runic hinge]

I have accepted I’m just mid af and too boomer to care

Also I don’t wanna use branch so I’m giving up dps

[gilded oasis]

I dont think branch sounds fun on tswift

[blazing jewel]

his guild is very entertaining

[quaint hull]

This can also happen when better players pick up the spec because it became meta.

[blazing jewel]

branch only kinda sucks for the opener but you learn how to game it

[gaunt sigil]

I dont run branch on tswift cause its kinda cringe

Im just mad cause bad ngl

[runic hinge]

I don’t mythic raid because I’m mid af

[blazing jewel]

why does this spec feel weird without imp ambush

[bright turret]

dont need branch just use ashes and change secondaries

[gaunt sigil]

Idk but it does

Imp amb def feels better imo

Like if I could feelcraft the spec

Noodle arms, imp amb, and recuperator working

Give us dr/healing in assa tree like sub and outlaw get

[quaint hull]

Use to be more op when ambush procced way more often.

[rotund oak]

branch is cringe

everytime i press i pray something doesnt happen and ruin my cds

ashes is more reliable

u press and bam,a buff that slowly fades

[gusty mirage]

Same

[bright turret]

dunno why people get so hung up on branch sim when you can just look at WCL and see ashes outperforming it

[rotund oak]

u are never mid in our hearts ❤️

[shy pecan]

Same

[steel ridge]

Been arguing that point since day 1

but wcl was full of branch enjoyers because it simmed so good

[bright turret]

I could understand not having an ashes back then, but you'd have to have tragic luck to not have yet

[steel ridge]

now all of the sudden, even sub guys play embersoul

patches evolve

[rigid tartan]

That ashes still not dropping for me I want it since weeks

[bright turret]

Yea I tried to make it work, but my first pull of Tindral made it clear that it's a sim trap, then my vault blessed me with ashes

[steel ridge]

I have still not seen a single branch drop

[rotund oak]

ive lost it 3 times,2 of them i high rolled and i still lost to dudes rolling 100

[rigid tartan]

And I got branch week 1, there’s rng and „just farm it bro“ for ya

[steel ridge]

Glad it never dropped

[bright turret]

just buy it for a million gold when some mythic raider rolls a 100 on it in a pug

[rotund oak]

Sellling smoldy trinkets in pugs

ppl still want them

[steel ridge]

laughs in mythic embersoul

[bright turret]

just get it in vault the week after you kill mythic smolderon its easy man

like getting 2 nicks from vault

[steel ridge]

ez

[rotund oak]

like nick of time,looted after like 2.5 months of resets

ez

[bright turret]

i got 2 nicks in back to back runs when I didnt even need anymore, took around 30 to get the 1st one I used

[rotund oak]

ive got a nick and sandglass in 23 runs iirc

for both of them

but the true value is from GV thats where the juice is at

[bright turret]

on the bright side

will probably still use nick offhand in fated, so halfway done with weapons week 1

[rotund oak]

depends the ilvl jump

dunno

[runic hinge]

I got a champ nick in my second fall and got a myth after third spark when I crafted a 486 dagger because I figured I’d never see a vault one

[bright turret]

rumor has been 13 but who knows

that's an oof

crest system makes getting weaps so easy now

[runic hinge]

You’re much better than mid and you parse 100 in my heart

[rotund oak]

ive crafted a dagger first week for quarter of a million xD

think ive gotten good value out of it tbh

[runic hinge]

In reality I had to trick blizz into giving me a myth track nick by crafting a dagger. It was a big brain play for a loss of 1 spark

[steel ridge]

That would be very very smol

[bright turret]

i dont remember what the SL was

[rotund oak]

30 or close to that

[bright turret]

it'd have to be a big one for nick to still not be offhand

[rotund oak]

nick in the OH wins by like 800dps on average a 489 in the OH

i would be surprised if it still remained but ye

will have to see

its 694 dps more than mythic igira for me

[bright turret]

im probably just overestimating it then

[rotund oak]

if u make a jump from a 483 to a 483 nick its about 2k dps

but thats for MH

its 2.5k more for OH

483 to 483 nick

[royal lantern]

@rotund oak you are a assa enjoyer now or what?

[slow needle]

What a wonderful thing to wake up to.

Thank you for sharing.

[glacial shuttle]

What's the % DR that we get from combining both Evasion and Feint with Elusiveness?

[quiet oar]

Every month another Flavor

[balmy condor]

Whatever the two numbers added up is

Well technically multiplied

[keen spruce]

you take

80%

of 80%

of the damage

so uh

.64?

36% DR

[balmy condor]

sounds good to me

[keen spruce]

close enough

shit wont kill u

if you press both

[balmy condor]

yap

[royal lantern]

try me

[drifting cloud]

did they hotfix elusiveness?

wasnt there a thread where saying its bugged like the shaman thing

just not making you take extra dmg but reducing by barely anything

[balmy condor]

haven't heard of it

worked fine for me when I played it on volc

[drifting cloud]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/19dxyji/psa_elusiveness_is_bugged_and_increases_feint_aoe/

[balmy condor]

feint + evasion and I was taking

literally 0 damage

[drifting cloud]

you got healed more clearly placebo

[balmy condor]

idk first I'm hearing of it

I could dig into spell data I guess to go check

[keen spruce]

@drifting cloud this is a good bug

[drifting cloud]

just assumed somebody knew but since I never spec into it didnt really give a frick

[keen spruce]

it was the pirate bois

that tested it

but elus is making feint better in AoE

when it's only supposed to affect ST

[balmy condor]

it's reducing more than it should

yeah

[drifting cloud]

oh I see

[balmy condor]

I'm not really seeing a reason for it in the spell data

kinda weird

[royal lantern]

OOF

[quiet oar]

Solo afaik

[golden basalt]

holy moly alt luck

[balmy condor]

alt luck for getting a mediocre trinket?

[quiet oar]

[drifting cloud]

for assa? isnt that thing cracked on some people

[keen spruce]

wth is that thing

[quiet oar]

Firelands trinket

[balmy condor]

shouldn't really be

[quiet oar]

Its good for some Specs

But bot BiS

[balmy condor]

I ran it on a couple profiles and it was basically on par with ember on hero track

[golden basalt]

aaaaight im sorry, it might not be BiS, but from what I've seen its a solid ass trink and I got a little excited

[balmy condor]

and eggshell/alchemist stone on champ track

kinda really meh

[vestal wren]

it comes down to encounter, i remember you essentially could do the same on SLG in Shadowlands

[balmy condor]

what

[vestal wren]

feint + elusivness reducing damage more than it should

[balmy condor]

on aoe hits, yeah

what's slg have to do with it

[vestal wren]

it worked on generals on multiple things

iirc

[balmy condor]

yeah, that fight had a lot of aoe hits

[vestal wren]

with the irony beeing that nobody rly used it

[drifting cloud]

well its the same problem as always, if you need elusiveness to live something

means half your raid died to it

[hardy dagger]

Cheat death is so comfy

[balmy condor]

anyways

[balmy condor]

think it's bis on feral or something

but it's kinda rubbish for assa

not that it's awful or anything

it's fine

but there's like 5-6 better options

[drifting cloud]

I know azor wants it, not sure why maybe its better than what he has but worse than pips which never drops

I didnt ask

and ulduar apparently had some insane healer (or just rdruid?) trinket aswell, silly timewalks

[golden basalt]

yea kinda figured it'd still lose to ashes/branch + pips/signet/etc

[balmy condor]

yeh

I always think it's funny when timewalking trinkets are bis

cause the moment blizzard hears about it, they get nuked

and then there's a big madge about "I SPENT ALL THAT TIME RUNNING OLD CONTENT FOR A TRINKET AND NOW ITS NOT EVEN GOOD"

very entertaining stuff

[clever sapphire]

Is it a timewalking raid or a dungeon that you can farm the trinket in?

[balmy condor]

raid

one chance a week

[drifting cloud]

one chance per raid tier you mean

[clever sapphire]

Aight im not touching it in that case, thx for the info

[balmy condor]

yeah it's only around for one week

I guess

[vestal wren]

don't worry, you only have one chance of getting it on heroic track

[drifting cloud]

it was nerfed by 5%

so if it was bis unlikely that made it not bis, unless it was already close

[loud gull]

how do u sim what stats are best for u with current gear ?

[spice spire]

Top gear swap gems around

[rotund oak]

i like the rogue in general,no weak resolve between speccs

its 19 years my man

😉

[oak tangle]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[cobalt geyser]

I love how 481 ilvel demo can be simming over 240k on 5 min patch. and me on my 487 assa only 206k, Is it just me or we doin far less dmg than meta specs ? Just a quick question for you guys :d

[clever sapphire]

im pretty sure even before all the nerfs assa was already one of the lowest simming specs

[wild birch]

Yes

On paper*

[clever sapphire]

well thats why i said simming

[cobalt geyser]

I mean I love the spec but sometimes I am just wandering why we got nerfed when there´s Oultaw and Sub doing bonkers DMG

[clever sapphire]

externals

insane burst

even more externals

[wild birch]

Does anyone have extremely optimized character/sim with ashes?

[gusty mirage]

No one played sub and outlaw has zero burst, outlaw’s damage profile is kinda meh for a lot of the raid especially the smolderon and tindral

Meanwhile assa was getting juiced cause it did big dam, was super popular

And blizzard’s balancing team can’t have that so they overnerfed it for the 2nd time this expac

And now it’s mid as fuck

Just bad balancing, which seems to be the usual

Now assa rogues see ret pal get buffed a few weeks ago despite being better than assa and it’s just insult to injury

[cobalt geyser]

But how is that blanced when we got nerfed couse of externals and now we just sad af when we dont get them anymore. I love how Retri mains were crying that their sepc is just bad af and after the leggo and byffs its one of the best specs rn. I love the assa feel, our burs is fire , and all but without PI and aug we are just mediocre. Also I love that when I switch to outlaw I am doing like 30k more dps even without buffs. Anyway thanks guys for information 😄

[clever sapphire]

assa was pretty much uhdk this tier

[gusty mirage]

Happened in 10.0 too, they overnerfed the fuck out of assa saying it’s “too strong” then buffed 8 specs to be better than assa was pre nerf lol

[clever sapphire]

but at the start big even without externals

[gusty mirage]

The people balancing this game are just smoking crack

That’s my only explanation

[bright turret]

Either Blizzard forgot PI exists, or they don't understand that it's a raid buff that can go on multiple specs

[cobalt geyser]

At start I can do around like 800k-1mil, take a screen and call it a day 😄 and after like 30 secs i am in the middle as If nothing happened 😄

[gusty mirage]

They didn’t seem to forget PI all of aberrus with uhdk

Sub should’ve been nerfed too, just no one played it

[cobalt geyser]

I mean I just hate PI as it fucked up way too many classes, can we just remove it andd call it a day 😄 no to balance classes couse of that one shitty spell

[vital haven]

i wish they were more proactive with reverting nerfs

its like hey guys this prob made sense a couple of weeks ago but not anymore

[gusty mirage]

We tried that, and they tripled down on it in dragonflight. They gave double PI to all priests, and then made augvoker lol

[bright turret]

Sin is fine where it's at really. Just sucks that Sub is the straight up best and many people don't enjoy it post rework

[cobalt geyser]

I see a guildie doing 300k on outlaw without PI and meanwhile me trying to catch up to him with PI and also falling short like 10/15k. its like what´s even the point of me trying to enjoy assa and do well with it when I can go on outlaw on progression and do better.

[clever sapphire]

turn off details

enjoy the playstyle

happy moment

[gusty mirage]

I mean outlaw on prog toward the end of the raid is trolling

[wild birch]

tbf if your rog is 487 and sims 206k, there's something wrong with it

[gusty mirage]

Outlaw is just bad for smolderon and tindral

Like objectively

[bright turret]

Outlaw is fine on Tindral with all the nerfs

[gusty mirage]

It really isn’t

[bright turret]

Before he got blasted previously yea

[gusty mirage]

You lose everything flying from platform to platform

[cobalt geyser]

My bad I had m+ talents

here it is

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sy8fCh4G4BaL7mMTwrHZV6

[wild birch]

that makes more sense :D

[bright turret]

Oh yea I didnt think of that issue

[gusty mirage]

Otherwise outlaw would be sick for tindral tbh

Cause shield dam is irrelevant now

[bright turret]

never play it, so forgot about that downtime

[gusty mirage]

Dw I made fun of Zac about it enough times

[cobalt geyser]

Its still 20k worse then outlaw :d but yeah its not that bad now as I am looking at it

[midnight mist]

[gusty mirage]

It’s okay king you’re still my favorite rogue

[bright turret]

sin's sim can be straight up ignored

[midnight mist]

real?

[bright turret]

It way overperforms its sim in the raid

[gusty mirage]

[midnight mist]

wtf banger

ty daddy

[gusty mirage]

Actual multi spec FREAKAZOID

[midnight mist]

ye guy should lose that title tbh

he is a sin one trick now

[gusty mirage]

[cobalt geyser]

I am usually around 3/4 place in raid behind 2 ret pallys and DH but yeah Timing is a key for that with good KB usage for adds u can do freakin big numbers

[bright turret]

Focus less on details and more on boss damage in WCL

[desert inlet]

virgin add damage padder vs chad boss dam pumper

[wild birch]

Is there something else I can do (without drastic changes) to lessen the gap between the trinkets?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pziGD9gympwwi8ASRvdmJc
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xoutyZcXpXDWjg5kuZttki

[drifting cloud]

you accept the loss for the sake of your mental

[midnight mist]

why dont you do one top gear

instead of 2

its a bit confusing, in one you have different rings

[wild birch]

It makes ashes sim innacurate because gap is too big

[cobalt geyser]

I mean I am wandering that too ashes are way too good to use instead of balls

[midnight mist]

oh well

hate that thing

[drifting cloud]

its because zac when you equip ashes recrafting rings to mastery dps gain

[midnight mist]

raidbot kinda cringe

[desert inlet]

[rotund oak]

makes sense for ashes but its so weird

[drifting cloud]

but yeah its 489 branch vs 483 ashes

[bright turret]

obvious answer is to get a 489 ashes

[rotund oak]

im thinking of disenchanting branch

im cringing hard

[cobalt geyser]

Well I hate using that damn branch

[rotund oak]

i think last time ive enjoyed a good trinket combo was during bfa

[midnight mist]

they make very cringe trinkets nowadays

[clever sapphire]

boon and grieftorch wdym

[rotund oak]

the cringe treasure in sotfo

[midnight mist]

cant wait for boon to come back

[rotund oak]

wasnt playing s1 my man,was working 2 jobs

[clever sapphire]

playing S1 was also a job

its fine

[desert inlet]

stat stick passive + active steroid to macro to vendetta

[clever sapphire]

but boon was a banger

[desert inlet]

best trinket combo

[rotund oak]

we get it in fated aight?

[clever sapphire]

yap

[rotund oak]

cant wait to test with all that hype

[midnight mist]

ye just have to commit every single defensive and movement ability every boon cast

[clever sapphire]

unless they change something

[midnight mist]

good trinket design

[clever sapphire]

oh ye its a roulette

also you forgot to say tank running away from you like a madman

[royal lantern]

i would agree if DF outlaw and sub would not be DF outlaw and sub man

[midnight mist]

current sub iteration is best sub iteration

current outlaw itteration is best outlaw itteration

[royal lantern]

no, i wont take the bait

i wont

[midnight mist]

not bait

[royal lantern]

[rotund oak]

idk man,it was always this way.Always sin starts fine then gets burried on a ditch

sub is amazing and very itneresting and outlaw is just superstrong

[royal lantern]

nono, outlaw is actually ultra weak

just ask #outlaw

[rotund oak]

not this time around 😄

[royal lantern]

the spec also needs to do insane burst dmg, otherwhise its UNPLAYABLE in raids

[midnight mist]

I mean even in raid outlaw is fine rn

there just are fights were outlaw is unplayable

and its hard to justify outlaw on some fight when the other 2 specs are doing a job that is considered the "rogue job"

we couldnt kill our shield on fyrakk without sub rogues

sin would have done the same

but idk about outlaw

does bit less burst

[drifting cloud]

[vital haven]

someone didnt play bfa lol

[drifting cloud]

did you have a feral or arcane

[midnight mist]

a feral ye

we were 2 sub and one feral

[rotund oak]

i didnt miss a day during bfa

literally

from 1st to last

[midnight mist]

when I was outlaw shield were super close and people had to re cd

[drifting cloud]

yeah I guess thats like min. requirement

[midnight mist]

you can also say its a skill issue on othre members maybe

[drifting cloud]

we only had double rogue last week

[midnight mist]

but like

[drifting cloud]

everytime shield was last 2s

[midnight mist]

yep

[vital haven]

then you would know that sub was the one left in the ditch

[midnight mist]

and like im not gonna say outlaw is bad on fyrakk

[vital haven]

for an entire expack XD

[midnight mist]

its good

but if you cant pass shields

[rotund oak]

yes sub was burried coz zul

[midnight mist]

doesnt matter how good outlaw is

lol

[drifting cloud]

nerfed next week, no dps stop p1 outlaw dream

[vital haven]

just get a 6 buff before p2 on last boss of fall

[midnight mist]

we already dont really dps stop

[royal lantern]

i mean ye, if outlaw had also great reliable burst, the spec would be broken

[midnight mist]

or like our strat allowed us to

[midnight mist]

thats really not what im saying, nor is anyone saying

[royal lantern]

you dont say that ye, cus you are a smart guy

not anyone? bruh

[midnight mist]

just that a lot of end boss fight designs the past raids heavely favor cds and burst

[midnight mist]

I dont think people want burst as outlaw no

[royal lantern]

wow in general favors burst

thats not a new thing tbh

[midnight mist]

I mean

remove damage amps on smold

[clever sapphire]

now you have volcoross with a bit more movement

[midnight mist]

remove damage amp on tindral and maybe not have the cringe flying intermission

[gusty mirage]

Definitely remove intermission

It’s fucking cringe

[clever sapphire]

wdym, its so fun when i fly up and the random tree stops me without me getting close to it

i enjoy wiping because of environment

[midnight mist]

all imk saying is you can make end bosses that dont favor burst cds as much

but idk

smold wouldnt have been easier without the damage amp

could have kept the orb soaking mech aswell

just dont have it be damage amp

[clever sapphire]

smold would have been harder

[midnight mist]

boss would have been the same

[gusty mirage]

The damage amp on smoldy just seemed pointless lol

[midnight mist]

well obviosuly you nerf the health lol

[clever sapphire]

well ye in that case its the same

[gusty mirage]

It was tossed on “lol big number good”

[royal lantern]

???

i had 300 pulls and never saw that happen to anyone lol

[clever sapphire]

fun factor imo

[midnight mist]

its just like, it doesnt do anything appart from adding another boss that favor cds specs

[clever sapphire]

happened to like 3 of our guys

[midnight mist]

when we already had quite a few in this tier

[gusty mirage]

I clipped a tree half of our pulls

[royal lantern]

its the ussual "we want this fight to be S P E C I A L" thing

[midnight mist]

ye idk

I like hard dummy fights

like the hamer guy last tier

would have liked smold to be one aswell

[royal lantern]

tbf

[midnight mist]

the damage amp kinda ruin it for me

[royal lantern]

he was the best boss last tier

[gusty mirage]

Rashok?

[midnight mist]

its a great boss still

[royal lantern]

ye rashok

[midnight mist]

ye

[gusty mirage]

Rashok was an absolute banger

What a great boss

[midnight mist]

yep

no damage amp

[drifting cloud]

not alot of competition for best boss in last tier

[midnight mist]

just pure st

still a hard boss

everyone liked it

cds arent favored

good fight

[royal lantern]

not allot of bullshit happening that heavy favors 1 thing over another

[gusty mirage]

Wdym so many GREAT options like assault, zskarn, magmorax, echo of nelth

[royal lantern]

just mechanics, play them right or die

[gusty mirage]

[royal lantern]

everyone pull numbers

[clever sapphire]

excuse me, i really enjoyed assault, it was really fun

[royal lantern]

healers can actually push hps for once

[gusty mirage]

Healers are too busy being oom to push hps this tier sorry BUD

[drifting cloud]

same, I liked the 28s version of it the most

[royal lantern]

blizzard doesnt know what they want to do with healers

so they change their vision

every single tier

instead of actually building up on one of them

[gusty mirage]

The dispels on fyrak are actually the most cringe

[royal lantern]

yep

[clever sapphire]

the moment when a boss is easier than trash up till the boss

you know you fecked up

[bright turret]

blizzard wants healers to suffer is their vision

[gusty mirage]

Well their vision is working

[royal lantern]

and then the cringe early "well, play MW or you cant do this boss ;)" shit on fyraak

idk i really fucking hate forced classes/specs from the game itself, it feels really fucking cheap

[bright turret]

They definitely leaned a bit too hard into making healing as hard as possible this tier

For whatever reason

[gusty mirage]

Priest purty good too

The life swap thing is big

[royal lantern]

eh, its still raidhealing, which is always problematic

cus like

70% of raidhealing is assinging cd's and hoping your healers droll on the keyboard so they dont die

[gusty mirage]

Also why did they spend all that time buffing bear Druid all expac

To leave it to be dogshit this tier lol

[royal lantern]

and they cant decide if they like or dislike raidhealing beeing all about cd's lol

[gusty mirage]

Idk tier’s over I beat the game

Fuck fated

Borderline fuck war within

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-this-im-out-llama-gif-4695687

[midnight mist]

wtf oxi

dont leave us

[royal lantern]

i have this feeling that you would be more happy in a 2day raiding guild oxi

[gusty mirage]

Doubtful

I like killing bosses

I do not like pulling bosses 400 times because blizzard is bad at making fights hard without one shots

[rotund oak]

2day raiding sucks,tossing another day shortens the time u need to clear the tier

[gusty mirage]

It’s just lazy design

[clever sapphire]

not sure if pointing towards the last 3 bosses or any boss in specific

[royal lantern]

the annoying part imo is there

they litearlly said they wanted to go away from it, and then we got this tier which is just 1shot mechanic spam everywhere

like

????????????????

[gusty mirage]

They also said they wanted to go away from stop dps bosses

Really did a fantastic job on fyrakk

It has the trifecta

[midnight mist]

did you guys stop dps much?

[gusty mirage]

Stop dps, one shots, and private auras

[midnight mist]

we just had a little 1/2s sometimes

[royal lantern]

this entire tier is "you clear everything up to smolderon in 3-4 days, and then enjoy wipe mechanic spam" for 3 bosses in a row

with private auras mixed in

[gusty mirage]

I stopped dancing altogether after 2nd dream rend and we still held dps lmao

I was backstabbing for like a minute and a half straight

[royal lantern]

@gusty mirage btw you saw the genius fyraak nerf we got now? 1 private aura removed

[midnight mist]

oh

[royal lantern]

[clever sapphire]

dont describe my raidtier, it hurts (we just starting tindral p2 prog today so im right where it sucks)

[gusty mirage]

Unlucky still there for cages in p2

[midnight mist]

we phase instantly after the first frontals in p1 I think

[gusty mirage]

Get fucked ig

[royal lantern]

🙂

[midnight mist]

we dont wait for the seconds aoe or whatever the fuck

[gusty mirage]

For the frontals

[midnight mist]

our stop dps is just a few seconds sometimes

but it didnt feel as bad as usual stop dps

like on nelth 💀

[gusty mirage]

Lmfao nelth

HAHAHAHA

[midnight mist]

on nelth we were stopping dps for like 30s

[clever sapphire]

get worse dps, now you dont need to stop

[midnight mist]

raszageth also

[gusty mirage]

what an awful boss holy fuck

[midnight mist]

well i dont think so, we just were phasing earlier than most strat were doing so it was a bit different

[gusty mirage]

Spend 70 pulls waiting for your ranged to learn how to count to 5

[spice spire]

Blud 300 wipes and they still didn’t learn

[midnight mist]

another failed private aura

[fallow canopy]

70? that must have been a cracked guild

[clever sapphire]

most ranges get to 3 and than they are lost

[gusty mirage]

They spent another 40 learning their positions

So 110 total

[midnight mist]

just wish they would just do more mechanics like they had on fate scribe

where you have one spot

to go on

[gusty mirage]

Brother

What

Please no

[midnight mist]

no wait

like

[spice spire]

Do not tell me

[gusty mirage]

No fatescribe

[midnight mist]

listen

nono

ok stop

[spice spire]

Zac just recommended fatescribe

[midnight mist]

guys

listen

[gusty mirage]

The door does not need to open

[spice spire]

Demote him

[gusty mirage]

You sass my son one more time and I’ll ban you

[midnight mist]

you remmeber fatescribe soaks? everyone had one specific to soak

it wasnt like

here are 20 soaks

good luck

[spice spire]

Sass me one more time and I’ll eat ur fucking ass Blud

[midnight mist]

also its private aura

[gusty mirage]

Yeah

Lmfao

[vestal wren]

fatescribe was poorly designed

[oak tangle]

i genuinely don't understand what private auras are

i understand the words, but i dont get it

[gusty mirage]

Blizzard’s way to make the game hard for liquid and echo

[midnight mist]

yes but im just highliting one mechanic here

[gusty mirage]

So we all suffer

[spice spire]

Zac “lover of fatescribe” Outlaw-Man

[vestal wren]

basically, if you get a buff or debuff, you see them on and weakauras or addons can act on it

[clever sapphire]

same, all i know is that i hate macro bosses (neltharion last tier, smolderon this tier, didnt hit fyrakk yet)

[midnight mist]

like I just wish these type of mechanics, each players with the mech would have a specific spot highlighted on the map to go on

[vestal wren]

by putting them private, you lose the ability to see them or have addons/weakauras act on them

[midnight mist]

like jailer holes

should have been assigned but by the game itself

[gusty mirage]

Bro imagine jailer bombs private aura

[vestal wren]

so you rely on other things like visuals on the fight to know whats happening

[gusty mirage]

Lmfao

[midnight mist]

like you would just have a glowy hole

idk

[oak tangle]

so it's a case of that your RL can't see them and assign for you?

[spice spire]

I see the vision here

[quiet oar]

[midnight mist]

well raid leader isnt assigning 20 people, its more that was cant see them and assign them

[spice spire]

I’m giving you shit but I see it

[midnight mist]

right

[vestal wren]

what blizz did was basically restrict auras to be private, and hence make weakauras and addons not able to easy mechanism

[midnight mist]

stop memeing me guys

[spice spire]

Only you see your designated objective highlighted

[vestal wren]

but what people did was to set up a weakaura that acts like it knows

[spice spire]

Yeah?

[clever sapphire]

and then they added mechanics that required weakauras/addons to be played

[oak tangle]

i don't see any issue with the design of private auras, but it seems you guys hate the implementation

[vestal wren]

but instead of having a buff/debuff as trigger people who get the mechanic now need to press a macro

so overall. what happens is that the problem they want to fix is still existent

[quiet oar]

Which is worse gameplay wise

[vestal wren]

but now you make the game harder for people to play

[spice spire]

No

[midnight mist]

well example of fyrakk you have 20 players that get a debuff either red or purple, and you need to spreaad these players all around the boss to cover soaks that one shot if there is a single miss

[vestal wren]

in addition to adding troubleshooting time from your raiding clock

[midnight mist]

it seems impossible without anything that would auto assign

you can watch fyrakk povs

[vestal wren]

i did hear from some guilds that 30 mins to a hour can be spend on fixing wa related issues

[midnight mist]

to understand

[vestal wren]

and you would assume only once, but it seemingly is a repeating problemem so often once every reset

[royal lantern]

my first fatescribe kill had me on all runes, and then the RL asked me why my logs where bad

[fallow canopy]

I think blizz highly overestimates the average CE raider, and if most of the private WA mechanics were personal responsability and personal death most people wouldn't mind but this tier most of the important mechanics are instant wipe mechanic

[gusty mirage]

We lost an entire night due to weakauras on Fyrakk

Literally 3+ hours

[vestal wren]

ouch

[maiden rover]

Surely the glowy hole would lead us to glory

[royal lantern]

yep, they do

a general problem for blizzard is that in their eyes, there is only LFR andy that ONLY does world content and nothing else, and if you do Mythic Raids you are Liquid Max, no in-bettwen at all

[vestal wren]

to be fair, i think wow has a tooling problem

[gusty mirage]

Because if someone had an outdated wa or used dbm instead of bigwigs it’d break the entire WA

Very fun

[drifting cloud]

yes but thats not really the was fault

[oak tangle]

yeah, i mean it would be a nicer mechanic if rather than assigning the shields on fyrakk, you get the shield when you pick up an orb?

[vestal wren]

yes, its just a lot of additional fustration

[oak tangle]

and lock yourself in

[drifting cloud]

its like user error 90% of the cases

[vestal wren]

one additional thing nobody talks about is accessability

[royal lantern]

yes

[midnight mist]

ye true that would be a nice fix actually

[gusty mirage]

You’re right it’s the private aura’s fault

[vestal wren]

not in people handling a mechanic

[midnight mist]

you would have players pre assigned to positions

[gusty mirage]

Just dumb

[midnight mist]

and they just soak the color close to them

[gusty mirage]

Dumb dumb dumb

[midnight mist]

actually quite good

[vestal wren]

but if you private important auras you break the baseline promise of giving the player meaningful indication

[midnight mist]

doesnt really make the mech easier*

[drifting cloud]

I think private auras are fine, they just put them on some really dumb mechanics that they shouldnt

[vestal wren]

e.g. i personally have the debuffs in the middle of the screen

[drifting cloud]

fyrakk intermission definetly a huge offender

[vestal wren]

to see if i am under a debuff effect for a mechanic

[royal lantern]

private auras for like, the p1 fyraak soak circles is fine imo, a assing WA would make the mechanic just worse for most people

but then intermission comes

[vestal wren]

but with private aura, you suddenly change the game in a way that something that worked consistently as a indication

[royal lantern]

or later the cages

[drifting cloud]

echo just a meme at this point, got redesigned on ptr too many times god knows how they intended us to play that fight, just break the whole room or something

[gusty mirage]

Lmfao

Just break all the walls

Ez

[oak tangle]

i agree personal responsibility mechanics is where it should lie, when it affects raid as a whole though that's a bit rough

[vestal wren]

is not there anymore, and people who relied on it are now even less likely to be able to perform

[clever sapphire]

halondrus bombs

bam

[vestal wren]

private auras are not a issue if the game design is good

[royal lantern]

the guild or the fight

[gusty mirage]

You mean fyrakk seeds?

[clever sapphire]

ye

well but fyrakk seeds are ruined by all the other shit there

halondrus lvl was good enough

[vestal wren]

but visaul design in wow can be very hit and miss, and there is already a firework on effects you can't dissable happening even without any boss present

[oak tangle]

i remember the healing absorb mechanic on the hungering boss in nathria

kinda the ultimate personal responsibility

but if you fked it up you kill whole raid with debuff

[royal lantern]

except you didnt cus it was a early boss

[oak tangle]

another way they could have done personal auras on the fyrakk intermission was assign you a ball as it spawns and have it glow or something and you are the one who has to soak it

[royal lantern]

and early bosses always turn kinda trivial fast

[clever sapphire]

stop coming up with smart ways to make a boss fun without having to use weakauras

[oak tangle]

lol

[clever sapphire]

its an endboss, you have to suffer

and your raidlead has to suffer because someone forgets to press their macro

and your group has to suffer because they changed specs and the macro isnt on their bars on that spec

[oak tangle]

i come from heroic where half my guild mates ignore them and a ball hits boss with no reason why someone couldn't soak it

[royal lantern]

THAT ONLY HAPPEND ONCE OK

SORRY

[hardy dagger]

[clever sapphire]

[royal lantern]

i mean the "swap spec" part

did smolderon as assa for a re-clear

and noticed on balls "oh shit no macro on bar"

[clever sapphire]

i mean its fine there if the rest presses the macro

[hardy dagger]

Smolderon as assa

[midnight mist]

Wtf banger, you are really good

[royal lantern]

who the fuck cares what you play on re-clear #6 lol

[clever sapphire]

ye right? our second rogue was playing outlaw even during prog on smolderon

[hardy dagger]

Who the fuck reclears

[fallow canopy]

As long as there is a distance cutoff that's actually good, if not imagine you are a dk and you get further left orb and then the next is further right

[hardy dagger]

And no you are right who gives a fuck

[oak tangle]

i mean it's kinda like i think it was a legion boss, where 2 people got linked togetehr and you had to not cross the streams or something

[royal lantern]

yeha, imagine re-clearing for gear

not me progressing M tindral with a normal ashes cus no heroic/mythic one dropped

and then tindral died and i get a Mythic ashes in vault in the following week

cus ofc

[clever sapphire]

got m ashes on our first kill, im a happy little rogue since

[oak tangle]

yes and no, if you are watching them to spawn, surely you can walk the distance required to catch it before it hits the boss, and it incentivises not spreading out the pools so you dont have to run as far as well

[clever sapphire]

you can just make them spawn further from the boss

now you can get assigned whatever and even the slowest spec can reach it

problem solved

[royal lantern]

the orbs spawn from puddles mate

thats like, the p1 mechanic

less puddles placed=less orbs spaws in intermission

[hardy dagger]

Yeah no sorry just kidding with ya, prog over weeks ago wich means sleepge until war within

[clever sapphire]

make boss clear more puddles

bam

[clever sapphire]

also im not at fyrakk yet (and i never payed attention on heroic)

[oak tangle]

at least on heroic, i like the fight in all but the add phases. i hate any fight that heavily incentivises having a dk, cause my guild doesn't

[clever sapphire]

i dunno, i hate fyrakk on hc

not sure how its gonna be on mythic

[royal lantern]

tbf, fight have those grip moments so you want a DK in the first place

its their raid utility

[oak tangle]

we hated dathea for some reason

same**

[royal lantern]

same reason why many fights also have a mandatory warlock gate

so you actually bring warlocks

[fallow canopy]

Who didn't? Lol

[royal lantern]

(cus you would totally NEVER bring a warlock otherwise )

[clever sapphire]

i remember raidlead wanting me to spec IW and IC on dathea, ye i left that guild real fast

[royal lantern]

ask @gusty mirage about that one

[oak tangle]

i was offering to do that hahaha, because with no dk it needed to happen

[clever sapphire]

oxi i need the story now

were you forced into IC/IW

[oak tangle]

though, with aoe blind now, i very much think that sin would loooooooove season 1 raid

the fights seem almost perfect for us

[clever sapphire]

aoe blind wont do shit there tho

they just get blinded

and start casting again

[oak tangle]

true, but it's atleast a stop

[clever sapphire]

i mean with current talentbuilds you can send an assa there and its probably fine

[spice surge]

Sark as assa in 10.1 🚫
Sark as assa in 10.2 ✅

[oak tangle]

i'm just imagining how good razageth is for sin

[spice surge]

Not great in second intermission

But ye its pretty alright

[oak tangle]

aoe blind on orbs? check
burst damage phases to sink dm / kb into? check
aoe add intermission with a big central add? check

[clever sapphire]

assa would have gotten nerfed the second liquid/echogot to sark

[vestal wren]

sark as sub in 10.1 ->
sark as sub in 10.2 ->

[oak tangle]

i feel like the council fight even, i remember playing IC AP on it, now that just exists in our ST kit

[clever sapphire]

Ngl i think council wouldnt be as fun with current assa as it was S1

[spice spire]

Gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss ‘em fuu

[oak tangle]

it was one of the few fights i specced sub for mostly, it was super fun as sub

[clever sapphire]

I enjoyed it as assa

It was really fun

[oak tangle]

i did, except the ct spam

[clever sapphire]

Enjoying the fact that i had to keep dots up as a dot spec

[royal lantern]

thats what sub does the last few tiers allready

[spice spire]

💅

[loud hearth]

Square shape in the square hole, triangle shape in the triangle hole sort of thing?

[midnight mist]

Ye

Idk why we don't have stuffs like that

With was it always end up playing like that anyway

But giga scuffed

So

[maiden rover]

Inc me with square shape trying to go into triangle hole

[spice spire]

I believe you

[austere sorrel]

Hello. Can I ask why we use thistle tea only for the last 6 seconds of KB? We don't need the mastery buff for the first half of it?

[spice spire]

The biggest damage from kb is on the final tick

It’s a ramping damage

[uncut hearth]

The last six seconds do more damage than all the previous seconds

[spice spire]

So the final six seconds should be the most damage to gain. And using two teas is worse

[austere sorrel]

Ohh I see thank you both!

[drifting cloud]

you start with 3 charges, 1 for opener, and the one you regen every minute goes back into the kb anyways

so you only have 2 flex charges for the whole fight

[spice spire]

How about you flex on this ryler

[drifting cloud]

[spice spire]

[oak tangle]

i bought a mount off the travelling trader

and it's arfing at me

[austere sorrel]

Gotcha ryler thanks. Another question.. is there a way to get more accurate training dummy parses? Without vanish restarting it?

[spice spire]

!details

[prisma monolith]

To stop details from resetting on vanish, go into the settings and under Overall Data, make sure "Use Dynamic Overall Damage" is checked.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1173432355785027584/details_vanish.png

[spice spire]

🫡

[oak tangle]

you also need to make sure you're looking at the dynamic overall meter

[austere sorrel]

And last question that's been on my mind. I believe the guides say empowered rupture vs just using envenom yield similar DPS results. So am I good to never have another empowered rupture after the opener?

Or did I misunderstand that

[slate crown]

You can focus on it if you'd like, but yeah, you can just use rupture when it's in pandemic and ignore empowering it after the opener. Sometimes it will naturally fall within Dance/ Vanish, in which case you can get the empowered effect and that's fine. If it doesn't fall within the window, don't need to force it

[halcyon silo]

Worth trying to get the 483 version from the Cache?

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-boop-happy-gif-431135646442387035

[oak tangle]

foxes make me happy

[quiet oar]

No

[halcyon silo]

Ok...

[thorn fjord]

straight to the garbage can

[austere sorrel]

Thought up another question: from stealth, on a pack, will my second garrote on the same target merely refresh garrote on target then smart target the other 2? Or smart target 3 new enemies?

[runic hinge]

the former

[main current]

assa fix: 30 sec cd on stealth in combat

[pseudo hamlet]

Assa fix: reverse the stupid nerfs

[royal lantern]

assa fix: somebody sends you a dm that says that you are loved

[dark token]

Assa fix: talent CT in keys

[runic hinge]

^

[pulsar dirge]

guys where do you craft your alchemical flavor pocket usually??

[runic hinge]

Ring probably

[gilded oasis]

idk i have it on my bracers and gloves right now

[spice spire]

and

?

[pulsar dirge]

looads of money

[runic hinge]

Gloves? Since when are we crafting gloves

[gilded oasis]

so you see

[runic hinge]

This mf crazy

[gilded oasis]

I havent worn crafted gloves in a while right. I used to have pocket there. But then I swapped it to my wrist. Then I was doing some robot things and it said hey upgrade gloves and do this cause its better right now so I said "ok robot, I trust you" and I did that but it still had pocket on from before so now I just have 2 on

thank you for coming to my ted talk

[gilded oasis]

im not a poor like you

[plain jewel]

so is ashes better than branch. I have both at 483. Looking at tindrall parses and seeing a lot of ashes

[spice spire]

Blud I ain’t subbed ur just insane

[pulsar dirge]

branch sims way higher for me

[royal lantern]

branch is unusable on tindral

[spice spire]

[gilded oasis]

its EASIER to use than branch.. I don't know id say better, I think they are pretty close one swings you away from mastery one swings you kinda into it so depends. My branch and ashes sims are like 1-2k apart

[spice spire]

Maybe for u but I’m different

[gilded oasis]

ya im playing for both of us

[spice spire]

Yeah and I’m playing myself for the both of us too

[gilded oasis]

ty

[spice spire]

It’s give and take

[gusty mirage]

@royal lantern

[vestal wren]

we should make a weakaura to show how many runs it took to get items

[maiden rover]

Wish you would tho.

[spice spire]

Sin main at heart what can I say

[tawny geyser]

Need quick help, I want to fix Nymue log but I'm confused on how to use our big cds...

It doesnt allign at all

Inbetween adds

I'm 2nd on Mythic Add

we dont KB the adds at all?

[runic hinge]

You’re using your 1min kb on the add

[runic hinge]

https://lorrgs.io try that to look at your cd timings

[tawny geyser]

Here, got a 60 log.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ykVpXC7RqMgxQzLr#fight=28&type=casts&source=1&view=timeline

[royal lantern]

releatable

[balmy condor]

Stop using tepid vers

Other than that your wafting procced kinda weird and your enhance is trolling the fuck out of you with that windfury

Rotation looks fine

[tawny geyser]

Corrupting eh? I dont know, our raid leader doesn't like it... well f*** him.

[sharp osprey]

rogue unkillable so it shouldn't matter

[tawny geyser]

True

[sharp osprey]

corrupting is big dps

[tawny geyser]

But it can't be that i'm logging 60 because of a Phial.

[sharp osprey]

better logs have shorter kill times, better procs, etc.

[balmy condor]

No you’re logging a 60 because of all of those things combined

[tawny geyser]

Right now I'm trying to fix Nymue and Council...

But can Whispyr or someone else tell me how to improve Gnarloot, it should be piece of cake, but idk...always stuck at 70-74.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ykVpXC7RqMgxQzLr#fight=3&type=damage-done&source=1

[worthy timber]

ive ran galakronds fall probably close to 20 times and only gotten 1 dagger

[tawny geyser]

Probably wrong cooldown usage or smt.. or not enough fan of knives?

[sharp osprey]

20 is rookie numbers man

[worthy timber]

clearly

[vestal wren]

i did hear a lot worse than 20 ^^

[worthy timber]

got 1 dagger though within 5 runs

[sharp osprey]

i think it took me 50 to get 2 hero track ones

and 40 to get 1 hero track one

[worthy timber]

oof

idk what it is lately, but i cant get into groups for anything

im basically in maintenance mode with wow atm. just logging in weekly to run my weekly mount runs from old raids and calling that it.

[gaunt moat]

When your progression looks like batman

@keen spruce

[keen spruce]

[gaunt moat]

how's tindral going?

[keen spruce]

we got to p3 last sunday

so we'll see

we have some absences this weekend

and next weekend

[runic hinge]

Are you weekend raiders?

[thorn fjord]

Weekend warriors

[keen spruce]

ye

sat sun

noon-3

pst

cuz EU people

[runic hinge]

Okay can I join

I heard you guys need a good rogue

And you have open spots this weekend

[thorn fjord]

Smooth Tony

Very smooth

[keen spruce]

open tank spot this weekend

[gaunt moat]

Hopefully we'll get Tindral down on sunday
think we made some good progress today

[thorn fjord]

I’m hoping we see p3 tonight

Then the pain begins

Got hit with the internet boss on Tuesday

One of the healers couldn’t get his ping lower than 400

Then RLs net died

It was a lot of fun

[quiet oar]

You play with EU guys???

[keen spruce]

ye our RL and his wife are in portugal

and a couple other people scattered around EU

[quiet oar]

[keen spruce]

then a few brazilians

and the rest NA

[thorn fjord]

Portugal don’t count as eu

Don’t ask me why

[quiet oar]

Isnt the ping

Like

Annoying

[keen spruce]

for them maybe

[quiet oar]

But

Thst does makes sense

I was wondering what These accents were

Because i thought arent you all na people

[gaunt moat]

RL got d/c 30s into our last pull today
it was our best pull

just lacked damage on boss cause he's feral

[thorn fjord]

I’m sorry he’s what now?

[gaunt moat]

what's funny about that 🐰

[keen spruce]

Feral goodge

On final 2

[runic hinge]

Okay I’ll bring my kitty this weekend

[keen spruce]

[primal elk]

Im inclined to keep doing what I’m doing on Fyrakk, but if boss is at around 4% when my last dm comes up would you desync from lust and send earlier?

I’m currently not desyncing and think it’s correct but figure I ask

ATM its after fist roar on lust as boss hits like 34%

So yeah I’d lose exe bonus sending earlier too