#assassination

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serene basin
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and gg

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since you get a cooldown timer either way if you use it in combat or nah

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back then you only get to use one prepot per combat thats y you had to pre pot before entering combat so the timer starts to use it again

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im glad they put a stop to that

cerulean nest
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any woke assassination tips for fyrak?

serene basin
cerulean nest
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just any considerations with timings on mythic

serene basin
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ah, i dont have xp on that so i cant help you

cerulean nest
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I have a plan but if anyone's already progged would be nice to know any specific observations

serene basin
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you prob already thought of it, but, try looking at some logs

low quartz
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on council, who do yall typically sit on

serene basin
low quartz
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fair point

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just trying to see how I net the most gains from indisciminate carnage

serene basin
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outside CDs you can run around and garrote rupture the others

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but its not a huge gain

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since you wont be using your 4p

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its very minor gain

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oh

serene basin
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cleave fights you gotta put the work on multi dot

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unless you have way more adds

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anyone can help me opn the matter of weapong enchants? im simming the sophic devotion and wafting devotion but im kinda very used to primary stats enchants on wep, feels more like a gain than haste

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btw the wafting devotion on both hands sims higher, sicne its not much im preffering to ignore

pearl sand
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i'm literally doing the same thing right now trying to figure out what enchants serve me better

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wafting does sim higher for sure. 1 sophic and 1 wafting is just barely behind but I'm of the same opinion that it feels like a better gain

raven flower
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the extra giga haste is very nice if it drops during cds, want to get as many attacks and poison procs out as possible

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sophic is sophic, can't really go wrong

vernal adder
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!dagger

errant drum
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!cds

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!cd

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!dust

earnest remnant
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wrong chat for those commands

errant drum
earnest remnant
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nah

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but you can always check lorrgs website

jaunty warren
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So question about the rotation..the guide says we Env->DM -> Shiv - > SD->KB…why do we not do Env->SD-> Shiv - > DM->KB so that SD boosts KB and DM?…what am I missing?

runic hinge
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DM doesn't do much damage

woeful meteor
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DM dealing negative dmg so it's not worth, also feeling says you drop envenom here

torpid sparrow
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does anyone have any idea why double bsl sim lower than the 2 single target embelishement when simming in dungeon slice?i feel like i m missing something but i cant figure out what

cerulean nest
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what's the thinking behind choosing sub vs sin on M fyraak? for anyone that's tried both

outer moon
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Morning y'all! For raid builds, generally speaking, is Caustic vs Internal the only thing you swap from cleave/ST or does anyone have a preference to toss in IC as well?

frank jay
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its hard to make full use of IC reliably when you need and want it without forcing CDs to line up

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IME

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*in raid

outer moon
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That's how I was feeling.. The only real use I could think of is for screamers on Fyrakk but I don't want to hold vanish for that specifically.. Makes it an easier call then xD Going in tonight as Sin, been a while. Been playing Fury mindlessly so I gotta actually use some brain cells tonight

frank jay
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in M+ you can get stealth windows, but in raid, not so much. Vanish/Dance have too much value elsewhere. Caustic is plenty for the role we fill. that and 4pc

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someone else may have a different opinion. in which case i will learn

arctic hare
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it'll show the timing

frank jay
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i don't mean that in a bad way. i hope it didnt come across like that

outer moon
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We're a heroic group that might get some play in Mythic but not pushing hardcore. I would love to play outlaw but I have some hand issues that make certain specs really difficult to play. Outlaw and Enhace, namely.. Fury and Sin aren't so bad for it!

frank jay
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understandable completely.

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i cant use keyboards and have used a g13 for years because of jacked up hands myself

outer moon
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It's a challenge, but we overcome! Using the mousewheel for my builders has helped a lot.

frank jay
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mousewheel for builders? thats interesting

outer moon
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Down for Mut/Ambush, up for FoK, and I keep my finishers/CDs centered around WASD so I can keep my left hand fairly still

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I found a hidden benefit in being able to move more fluidly out of mechanics in M+ and not lose casts so it was a happy accident

arctic hare
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Did it get better recently?

frank jay
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probably the amount of different casts per min

outer moon
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It is, but it also has so few buttons that using wheeldown for BT and wheelup for Rampage, I really only have to use my left hand for CDs & filler casts

arctic hare
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Hmm, that makes sense

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whereas outlaw, well....

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I'm sure we all know what outlaw is lmao

frank jay
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and enh...

arctic hare
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oh yeah, them too lmao

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The sheer number of procs with enh was overwhelming

frank jay
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while managing totems too

arctic hare
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yeahhhhhhh, screw that lmao

outer moon
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The problem I have with outlaw and enh is the constant procs and extra buttons I start cramping and losing accuracy about an hour into the raid xD

arctic hare
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Yeah, that makes sense

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Maybe macro certain abilities together?

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I know ghostly strike can be macroed into basically every finisher

frank jay
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i like it with er

flint raptor
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!dagger

arctic hare
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I tried that build, but for some reason I would hit moments of sheer, unadulterated lack of energy

frank jay
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KIR...or HO?

arctic hare
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KiR

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HO i'm perfectly fine with

outer moon
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I do use some macros there for that, where I mostly run into the wall with Outlaw is during the rapid CD vanish windows. Everything is smooth for 30 seconds and then the vanish > BTE window if Ace doesn't proc is where I start to lose the plot. I could probably rearrange it and find a way to make it work, but I am enjoying Sin for now so I'll stick it out

arctic hare
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Yeah, sin is slower and more, I suppose deliberate?

outer moon
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Outlaw is probably a spec where the mousewheel is bad, actually

arctic hare
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probably. yeah

frank jay
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my raids kill timings, especially inconsistent, tank my Assassination DPS

arctic hare
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its simply too fast.

outer moon
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Yup. Less spammy, more calculated

arctic hare
frank jay
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same prob in M+

arctic hare
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honestly, if its like, three mobs, I don't even bother rupturing all that much, I kinda just caustic spatter whoot

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Sorry, I DO rupture, but depending on the build, I'll neglect to use Crimson tempest, even if its that tiny extra bit of dmg

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Thing about outlaw, that I've noticed, particularly in keys, is that even on smaller pack sizes, your damage stays consistent pretty much all the time.

frank jay
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and not so reliant on staelth windows for each pull

arctic hare
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Honestly, even without stealth windows as sin you can still do plenty of dmg

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its nice to have, but not absolutely necessary

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Cause we've still got shadow dance, vanish

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and if your nelf, shadowmeld

frank jay
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well our tank likes to random daisy chain pull 1 or 2 med hlth mobs after a big pack

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rather frustrating

arctic hare
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Yeah, I can definitely see how that would be frustrating

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But, the more you chain, the better off you go, not to mention, is your tank predictable?

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rather, does he do that same pull every time?

royal lantern
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FINALLY mythic shoulders

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now only heroic head left

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jesus christ

frank jay
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not at all....lol

arctic hare
arctic hare
frank jay
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its tolerable as outlaw

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for me at least

outer moon
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I might give Outlaw another shot and just bind attacks on keys and see if that delivers some more consistency 🤔 Glad I brought this up here, ya made me think!

arctic hare
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Good luck!

frank jay
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I've mained my rogue for close to 15yrs. this is the first time only 1 spec really resonated w/me. I get by alright on all 3. but can't make all of the 3 work in most all situations like i used to

outer moon
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I've done decently with Sub in numbers but I don't enjoy the playstyle as much. I like the Assassination approach of dot and rot, and I'm just happy it's a more accessible spec for keys now, even if still not quite meta like Outlaw

frank jay
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my guilds inconsistencies kill sub for my timings. I mained as sub primarily since cata. other tha a few raid bosses when Mut and combat/outlaw had their time. I cant make sub work aside from Volc and smold

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Assassination is far more flexible in raid for me. M+....not so much

outer moon
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I've been using the Cleave build in M+ and I'm finding it more flexible and easy to play around even with bad pulls. When I use the standard M+ build I find that things die too fast to matter even at 18+ on Tyrannical. Fortified is a bit better but I also like bringing more ST to the group and letting the other 2 clap the AoE meters. If the keys are being timed +1/+2 and everyone is happy, then we win 😛

arctic hare
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Same man, same

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When I'm with my hunter friend, i just go cleave, i don't care lmao

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He'll obliterate everything in existence anyways so

frank jay
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last week i ran outlaw for the first time and was way less frustrated. this week though will most likely be raid cleave build like you say.

modest glen
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aeriel shock or hybrid spec for m+?

frank jay
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althbough it is nice when ya get a meaty kingbane into a big group onn trash

modest glen
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keep seeing mix reviews all over

frank jay
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low or high keys?

modest glen
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high keys

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15+

frank jay
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the raid cleave build is what a lot run

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i may be out of date tho

normal mist
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Cleave build most fun build

modest glen
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cleave build would be the hybrid? 4 poisons?

normal mist
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Negative

modest glen
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i keep seeing an aeriel shock build with 2 poisons

frank jay
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basically ST raid with caustic

normal mist
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I loved playing that build

modest glen
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hmmm not seeing a guide on it on wowhead

frank jay
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not in guide

modest glen
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only see aeriel shock and hybrid +

frank jay
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check whyspers youtube. he covers it good

modest glen
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sweet thanks, was wondering why these builds seem off

frank jay
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they arent bad exactly. You get very similar results with less drawbacks

normal mist
frank jay
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the M+ cleave is what you seek

outer moon
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Off the top of my head the Cleave build is basically the raid build but you swap Internal Bleeding to Caustic, Imp Poisons to Iron Wire, and Dashing Scoundel to Indiscriminate Carnage..

modest glen
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ahhh ive been using the two others on there

normal mist
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The one I linked above I believe, I'm on the phone so I hope the link works well

modest glen
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thanks fellow rogueys ill give it a try

frank jay
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iron wire....very big in M+

modest glen
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much love my sneaky brothers

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oh wow no CT in this build interesting

outer moon
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Yup. Your AoE is most heavily impacted by Caustic and KB

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Really strong for Tyrannical weeks. Less ramp time for trash, better ST damage on the bosses

frank jay
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pros with less cons

nimble zinc
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Probably a dumb question but pls correct any mistakes I have here.

ST Boss opener (I.e. Smoldy)
Stealth > pot > garrote > ambush > rupture > mutilate x2 > Slice n Dice > mutilate x 2-3 > envenom > shadowdance > tea/trinket > deathmark > Kingsbane > back into rotation for envenom and keeping bleeds / poisons up. Is this correct?

outer moon
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I typically Garrote > Rup swap target Garrote > Rup, then Shiv>ShD>KB and then let caustic do its job

modest glen
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yall have been a huge help thank you

outer moon
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Oh that was referencing the M+ trash, not your question, sorry!

arctic socket
shy pecan
arctic socket
outer moon
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^

arctic socket
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Vanish at 3 seconds left

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Use your trinket with dm

outer moon
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And do a 2nd shiv at >8 seconds of KB

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<8 sorry

nimble zinc
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I’m should specify my trinket is ashes of ember

arctic socket
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Orc racial with kb

arctic socket
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If it’s >8 that works too

outer moon
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Pretty much, yeah, keep it rollin xD

nimble zinc
outer moon
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remaining

arctic socket
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6 seconds of kb remaining

outer moon
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your goal is to amp the last ticks of KB since it grows over time

arctic socket
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Then 3 seconds of kb remaining you press vanish

nimble zinc
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And maintain > 50% energy?

sacred wedge
arctic socket
sacred wedge
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wowhead guide is made by the source most people here will use to answer your Qs

arctic socket
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But it’s more important to keep the envenom chain going from 4p then it is to stay above 50% energy

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!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
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Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

  • If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
  • Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
  • Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
  • With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
sacred wedge
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!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
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Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

  • If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
  • Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
  • Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
  • With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
arctic socket
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Explains jt

sacred wedge
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oops

arctic socket
nimble zinc
grim tree
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
modest glen
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strange that they hyped assassin rework just to have sub be overpowered again hmmm

spice spire
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I mean

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The sin rework is hype

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Just got nerfed one too many times

nimble zinc
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Nerf outlaw pls

bright turret
spice spire
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I blame @earnest remnant

royal lantern
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i hug @earnest remnant

arctic socket
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I blame @spice spire for

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The nerfs

spice spire
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?

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Mf I ain’t even playing how you gonna blame me big dog

royal lantern
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i hug you aswell

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hugs for everyone

runic hinge
spice spire
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Sass me again and I’m fighting your trench pal

runic hinge
balmy condor
placid path
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Do you guys tab mutilate for spatter or is that not something you ever worry about?

fallow canopy
placid path
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interesting. Thanks

balmy condor
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Yeh says limit 1

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Can confirm

spice spire
runic hinge
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Can BSL be a gain in single target if I’m my healers favorite?

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Aka I have large uptime

balmy condor
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Ye

azure gust
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as assa do we spend with envenom as much a possible or only to refresh before the end

spice spire
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U 2 bozos

prisma monolithBOT
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Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

  • If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
  • Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
  • Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
  • With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
azure gust
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so if i understand when you have 4set outside couldown you refresh at 1sec or around

arctic socket
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@spice spire sass me

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@balmy condor why does your ui look like a jinga puzzle?

spice spire
arctic socket
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On stream

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It looks like a puzzle

vestal wren
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could be worse

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did you see jpc's ui or raz

vast loom
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looks pretty standard to me

vestal wren
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(both incredible players, but damn)

arctic socket
vast loom
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looks easy to me

arctic socket
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That’s stuff is weird too

spice spire
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Honestly his UI is fine

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But call whispyr s2 tier ig

vast loom
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that stuff is fine it doesnt matter in combat at all lol

spice spire
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Amen

vast loom
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you can go the atrocity route and hide everything that isnt 100% about combat lol

arctic socket
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He’s just aa Weido

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Weirdo

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Messy ui

spice spire
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He’s perfect don’t you bully him madgeClap

shy pecan
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Everyone has different ways to take in info

arctic socket
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It isn’t bullying yet

spice spire
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Good leave it to Ed

shy pecan
spice spire
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Ur a hater

arctic socket
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Special?

shy pecan
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Damn right, I hate when people are critical of other people’s UIs

balmy condor
arctic socket
balmy condor
arctic socket
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I didn’t mean to post that here

balmy condor
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Sure sure

arctic socket
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I’m sending quake the emotes I made

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I didn’t mean to send it to ya here

vestal wren
shy pecan
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Like I need a way to track dots on my HUD. But some don’t need to and can use nameplates or the target bar no problem

vestal wren
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i am with you

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i do think UI is personal, so you need to find what works best for you

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tho i don't think there is harm to state your opinion on some choices

royal lantern
vestal wren
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e.g. i don't think jpc or raz feel critisized by me saying that their ui is very hard to read for me

arctic socket
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People play different ways

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There’s mythic raiders that use controllers so

shy pecan
arctic socket
vestal wren
arctic socket
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Doesn’t make their ui wrong

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But doesn’t make it right

pearl sand
vestal wren
shy pecan
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I don’t have a degree in UI/UX design so…

lime crypt
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damn when was the last time they made some balancing changes? it feels so long lol

vestal wren
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inherently, as humans we love to repeat things to automate it so we can dot hem uncounciosely

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and e.g. looking at some uis

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where information is spread all over the scree is objectively seen very bad

shy pecan
vestal wren
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because it requites more concentration and a lot of eye movement

arctic socket
arctic socket
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Doesn’t make it wrong or right

vestal wren
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you might have played with a certain ui setup, and trained yourself to have this hard to digest setup

shy pecan
vestal wren
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in this case there isn't any reason for you to change unless you feel like your eyes get tired

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or other physical issues that can come from it

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so there is a certain amount of objectivity you can have and say "this isn't ideal"

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think thats a fair critique, and i don't think it is a negative to state it

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(btw. i don't think there is a wrong ui)

shy pecan
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Again, that goes back to what works for them vs. what works for you and how you take in that information. Like for them, it's considered clutter to have WAs to track dots when you can do it on nameplates. Another example is your UI. Some people won't like the long bars, some people will. Some people don't like that hud at all. It's just all in the eye of the beholder

split grail
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Are we not casting envenom at 4+ anymore? I'm been looking at logs and alot of the top guys are pretty consistently getting 6pt cast off

crisp pine
shy pecan
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I know with Kevin (Atrocity's) UI, he has a lot of icons that show up in terms of CDs. I'm not a fan of it because it's a lot of information overload for me. But someone else loves it

vestal wren
shy pecan
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Sorry, using Atrocity's UI as another example.

royal lantern
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its just

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crits happen

vestal wren
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information overload is a good point tho

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i personally like bigwigs more and usually dissable a bunch of stuff

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mostly because of how much additional visual noise dbm caused the last time i used it

shy pecan
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Yeah, yet there's still people that are huge advocates for DBM

arctic socket
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I didn’t mean to spark a huge conversation about UIs

vestal wren
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i do think we had a quite nice conversation

shy pecan
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I had no problems talking about it

spice spire
royal lantern
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and hug

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🫂

quiet oar
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And log reviews

vestal wren
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quake doing all the log reviews

royal lantern
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so you dont have to do it

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be thankfull

spice spire
vestal wren
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after having 1-3/day duirng parts of the first seasons

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or lets say reduced it, i still do in dm's if people ask me for help

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but its not this extreme anymore

quiet oar
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Also honorable mention

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Solo reviewing Outlaw logs

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Reviewing Outlaw must be annoying

vestal wren
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the outlaw channel is too wild

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you come back to the channel after 5-10 minute
200 new messages

quiet oar
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I mean its off topic

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Many times

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There was one time

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We were off topic and guy wanted us to take it to off topic channel

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And quake wasnt Too happy about it

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And send us back

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And told guy to take us back

shy pecan
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Don’t need more outlaw crazies in OT

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*any

quiet oar
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Well it was zeross and hautzii

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Iirc

shy pecan
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Oh. That’s why I saw all the blocked messages…

quiet oar
spice spire
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also zeross good lad

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just a bit xd

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love him tho

quiet oar
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Yeah

quiet oar
runic hinge
quiet oar
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Right

muted ridge
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Is blood mallet outdated?

royal lantern
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zeross in RH be like

muted ridge
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trinket wise

quiet oar
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Cant have zoomer in there

royal lantern
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no exception

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after playing with him for some time, he is 1 of the calm ones

shy pecan
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It’s true

royal lantern
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so all the other yellows are WORSE

quiet oar
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Fuck i dont have stealthis screenshot

runic hinge
quiet oar
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Where zeross thought Rat and mouse are the same

runic hinge
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Lmfao

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Omg that day

quiet oar
royal lantern
quiet oar
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KEK

royal lantern
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MATE

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HE IS SO CALM

quiet oar
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I cant imagine that

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Like every time i play with him in keys

royal lantern
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all the ADHD energy is used up on RH posting, in raids he is just not saying anything and just playing

quiet oar
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He is so omega hyped

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Well maybe in raid He is calm

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But in weeklies

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He is so pumped

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Its insane

royal lantern
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mate, its weekly keys

quiet oar
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Ye exactly

royal lantern
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im sitting there in discord with friends and sing while doing them

quiet oar
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Ye me Too

muted ridge
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How exactly does bloodmallet even work, it shows power on individual basis but not when you use 2 trinkets in a combo right

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can I assume top 2 trinkets in list should be ones to "go for" or?

quiet oar
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Yes

royal lantern
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yes no

quiet oar
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You can use fuus sheet

royal lantern
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its the highest simming ones

quiet oar
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
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but reality is somewhat different with double on use trinkets and stuff

quiet oar
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And Look at trinkets

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There combination

muted ridge
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Ye Ik about Fuu's sheet

muted ridge
quiet oar
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Yes

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You can See thst

shy pecan
quiet oar
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If you expand the Profile

quiet oar
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Congrats

distant birch
quiet oar
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Also didnt Switch to sub

distant birch
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I play both

quiet oar
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Respectable

distant birch
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But as you can see the dmg boss is hugeee

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Assa enjoyer ngl

royal lantern
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😄

distant birch
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I hope i keep it :<

quiet oar
shy pecan
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I'm curious how many people would be how they are in this discord vs. IRL

cerulean nest
runic hinge
quiet oar
shy pecan
quiet oar
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And sometimes using internet English slang

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In my mother tongue

royal lantern
shy pecan
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I wonder who they could be...

royal lantern
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hey if it makes them happy

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i dont judge

shy pecan
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Oh, I'm not judging, I just know who everyone keeps bringing up about kpop stuff 😛

quiet oar
runic hinge
#

Idk K-pop is kinda weird to me but it’s just whatever. It is off topic.

#

More celebrity Worship

tame tangle
runic hinge
#

I mean it’s all the same.

#

Maybe it’s a little more weird cause of racial undertones but it’s not more weird than any other celeb gossip shit

tame tangle
#

nah not cuz of where it is globally but cuz of it being the absolute peak of commercialism music + haven’t multiple kpop stars died from being overworked lol, it’s nutty shit

runic hinge
#

I don’t keep up with it enough to know

arctic socket
lucid knoll
bright turret
#

I wonder how long people will have to be stuck on Fyrakk before he gets some big nerfs

spice spire
#

Damn

bright turret
#

Cause if people couldn't down tindral before these nerfs, they aint killing Fyrakk

lucid knoll
#

Jokes on you, I still can't kill Tindral

#

hopefully ded this reset tho Surebud

spice spire
#

God ur so real for that

shy pecan
bright turret
#

If you could down Smoldie, you can down this Tindral

#

He's probably the same if not easier

lucid knoll
#

Smolderon is ez mode after nerfs

bright turret
#

P1 is probably the hardest now, so if you wipe, its very fast

lucid knoll
#

Yep, we are doing better in p2 than in p1 kekw

bright turret
#

P2 may as well not exist after the nerfs

#

They pretty much deleted the seed mechanic

cedar yew
#

Anyone recognise the icon on the far left? Watching a YouTube vid of a atal and can't figure out what that is!

azure owl
cedar yew
#

Hmmm be odd to macro in a toy to a rotation but it wouldent surprise me 😂

azure owl
#

it wouldn't be my first time seeing such a macro tbh xDD

lucid knoll
#

Some ppl macro fireworks/toys/etc that are off gcd to their opener cuz why not

gilded oasis
cedar yew
#

I thought It looked like the dark portal!

gilded oasis
#

uneless the icon is used elsewhere which as a rogue of a long time i dont think any of my abilities look llike that

#

maybe it was the miniature dark portal consumable?

cedar yew
#

Was going my head in 😂 I'm still a super beginner with sin so just making sure I haven't missed something basic

balmy condor
#

did he use a gateway

balmy condor
#

cause it tracks spells

#

so I'm thinking he used a control shard

gilded oasis
#

then probably that

#

Id like to think he was mid-hearth though

balmy condor
#

yeah

#

I would be mid-hearth too

#

if I was doing m+

gilded oasis
#

I wish I could hearth into a m+

cedar yew
#

Didn't use the lock gate in the vid when it appeared

shy pecan
cedar yew
#

Just rewatched

balmy condor
#

silly game

runic hinge
gilded oasis
#

hearth -> wow now im in a group with 4 other people doing m+

shy pecan
gilded oasis
#

maybe they'll make follower dungeon m+ so I can pretend I have friends again

shy pecan
#

Same

runic hinge
#

Need to make sure they all only use their kick on the same cast you do or else it’s not realistic enough

gilded oasis
shy pecan
#

Truth

spice spire
#

Maybe for u but I’m different

plain cipher
#

Not a great rogue, have cataclysmic brand and fryakk trinket in vault both lfr which to take? I mostly do keys

spice surge
#

Neither are great for assa keys, but probably fyrakk

runic hinge
spice spire
#

Kicking is a healer job

runic hinge
#

Why didn’t they give priests a kick then

dusk sun
#

!wa

shy pecan
#

Kick them out of the group for not having a kick

spice spire
#

Amen

gray crest
#

if it doesnt do damage it doesnt get pressed

#

haters cry about the group wiping, but I cant hear them from the top of the damage meters

spice spire
#

God chat ur so fucking real

dusk sun
#

what dungeons are they putting in the pool for s4?

woeful meteor
#

unknown

#

there was some statement about it but no specific keys

tender osprey
#

Dumb question but does the cleave m+ build still have the same aoe builder prio, mutilate 1-3 Dan of knives 3+?

#

Fan of knives…but Dan of knives sounds like a cool dude

arctic hare
#

lol

proper epoch
kindred crescent
#

I am struggling to determine if I should do hissing or buzzing runes

#

can I sim it?

woeful meteor
#

or just do 2 quick sim and just change it between the 2

lime crypt
#

!wa

plain moon
#

The tindral opener is just skipping the envenom before DM right?

#

and we do that so we can get a batter KB before first intermis and then its up right when we land p2?

balmy condor
plain moon
#

oh okay so skipping the mut on pull too

#

or the amb on pull

#

my brain sees those as the same thing

arctic socket
#

Just skip Tindral all together

spice spire
#

Real

earnest remnant
gaunt moat
#

real

spice spire
#

This is the retirement home brethren Raisedeyebrowbutcat

gaunt moat
#

real

earnest remnant
#

then keep the cooked boss takes to your dementia buddies

gaunt moat
#

Stealthi has become even more toxic with the color change

raven locust
#

Does Kingsbane snapshot from Nightstalker?

earnest remnant
gaunt moat
#

The racoons have been let out of the trash PogO

spice spire
spice spire
runic hinge
#

Quake horny posting again DinkDonk1

gaunt moat
#

wth, you're a FoCT

balmy condor
#

seeing stealthi orange

#

is weird

#

I always think it's oxi

spice spire
#

They sass me equally

#

But stealthi doesn’t dm me

spice spire
desert inlet
#

is it not?

balmy condor
#

you can make out with the homies

#

platonically and non-sexually

#

me and quake make out platonically all the time

#

we make sure that shirts and socks stay on

desert inlet
spice spire
#

Amen brother

desert inlet
spice spire
#

What I’m saying

shy pecan
spice spire
#

If you already know why you question his logic

desert inlet
#

I thinking making out

#

vs a quick kiss

#

is where it gets blurry for me

spice spire
#

It’s the same thing with tongue

runic hinge
#

Same

spice spire
#

I see no difference

runic hinge
#

Tongue is across the line

spice spire
#

Nah you meet in the middle

#

No lines crossed

#

Hence platonic

runic hinge
balmy condor
#

that way it doesn't get blurry

#

the eye contact makes it more sensual ya know

runic hinge
#

People think you’re weird if you kiss with your eyes open

spice spire
#

Personally I like to turn it into a staring contest

balmy condor
#

it's like fencing

#

but with your tongue

spice spire
balmy condor
#

would you close your eyes mid-fight

desert inlet
#

lmao

spice spire
#

Exactly

desert inlet
spice spire
#

One time his tongue touched the inside of my teeth and we had to watch sports for 4 hours to prove it was homiesexual

spice spire
earnest remnant
#

i have almost responded to myself twice today

desert inlet
#

do u not show pfps

spice spire
#

Stealthi so far down his hater arc he responds to himself

earnest remnant
#

was gonna say something mean

runic hinge
#

Bet he was about to call himself a bozo

spice spire
earnest remnant
spice spire
#

You should care for yourself

balmy condor
#

you should get some bitches

earnest remnant
#

how bout dat

spice spire
#

Man it’s been 2 months

#

Wtf

earnest remnant
#

and?

balmy condor
#

that's enough time

runic hinge
#

Times up

spice spire
#

After 8 years? Nah

desert inlet
#

no bitches??

earnest remnant
#

TIK TOK MFER

balmy condor
#

I say when you're ready

#

me

spice spire
balmy condor
#

not-boomer

earnest remnant
#

whats an app?

balmy condor
#

zoomer

spice spire
earnest remnant
#

i only know trashcan

balmy condor
#

boomer would say like coocoo clock mfer

#

or whatever

earnest remnant
#

lmfao

spice spire
#

Whispyr

earnest remnant
spice spire
#

You good man

gaunt moat
#

i know young people words
rizz

balmy condor
#

ask your mother

spice spire
#

Yeah I’ll call her real quick

balmy condor
#

tell her hi from uncle candy lips

earnest remnant
#

the fuck

spice spire
#

From what

#

Question here king

#

Whatcha been doing tonight

earnest remnant
#

mfer called himself "candy lips"

balmy condor
spice spire
#

Rough night?

balmy condor
#

not at all

spice spire
#

Damn I’d say it’s been a rough night for ur pops but we all know I’m too old

balmy condor
#

damn

balmy condor
#

yeah

earnest remnant
#

not even boomer

balmy condor
#

that's the joke

spice spire
#

True

balmy condor
#

haha

#

ha

earnest remnant
#

Fossil

spice spire
#

True

balmy condor
spice spire
earnest remnant
#

whenever he enters a building the jurrasic park theme song starts playing

spice spire
shy pecan
spice spire
shy pecan
#

Sounds like it's been a fun night in here

spice spire
#

Honestly

#

I just showed up

earnest remnant
shy pecan
spice spire
#

God damn

blazing jewel
bronze pike
#

i didnt know stealthie got promoted to orange

spice spire
#

It’s an announcement remy

bronze pike
#

you cant expect me to read

gusty mirage
bronze pike
#

congrats tho, deserved

gusty mirage
#

huh pal?

spice spire
#

No?

bronze pike
#

oh no i started a fight between all the color names

drifting cloud
shy pecan
#

Morning Rlyer

#

*Ryler

drifting cloud
#

yeah ... morning Cheesin

gusty mirage
#

ryler is like stealthi

#

neither of them sleep

drifting cloud
#

actually I sleep plenty

gusty mirage
#

that's not true

drifting cloud
#

its just at ungodly hours

gusty mirage
#

I watch you sleep

spice spire
drifting cloud
shy pecan
runic hinge
gusty mirage
spice spire
violet sonnet
#

this guy thinks hes old saint nick

runic hinge
spice spire
#

Okay gn homies

earnest remnant
#

gngn

#

sleep well bud

shy pecan
#

gn

#

luv u

gusty mirage
#

damn sorry typo

#

gn*

runic hinge
#

Gn dad

north ibex
#

so when are we getting a buff

blazing jewel
#

No

junior yoke
drifting cloud
blazing jewel
#

Okay

runic hinge
#

Okay nerf scana specifically

balmy condor
#

say it with me

#

assassination

#

does

#

not

#

need

#

buffs

#

just

#

because

#

sub

#

is

#

op

#

if you're confused about that, read it again until it gets in your head

#

thank you

runic hinge
#

It’s been nice and quiet in here lately and I appreciate that compared to when we were on top. And our gameplay is still really fun and we do very good damage too

blazing jewel
balmy condor
#

the fotm meta gaming is wild

#

actual delusions

royal lantern
#

ye cus top5 is not top2 and that means dead

blazing jewel
#

Play the meta or else fotmtryan will haunt you in your sleep

royal lantern
#

tbf

#

i got semi removed from the raidteam for not playing sub

clever sapphire
#

Did theyalso remove everyone who was dpsing less then you? monkahmm

balmy condor
#

worse

#

they replaced him with fucking zeross

shy pecan
runic hinge
balmy condor
#

Imagine replacing the assassination shitposter

#

with the ravenholdt court jester

runic hinge
#

Straight downgrade in every way

earnest remnant
drifting cloud
#

my guild still hasnt figured out im inting

#

nobody tell them

shy pecan
royal lantern
#

sending dm to your rl

balmy condor
shy pecan
#

Goddamn

royal lantern
#

cant make this shit up

clever sapphire
#

Well why is it lower mr?

balmy condor
#

link them the damage with bombs included

royal lantern
#

tbf, its the same guy that didnt put me in WFT group over 2outlaws, a dh and a fury warrior

earnest remnant
royal lantern
#

actually losing my mind over that brainrot happening there

balmy condor
#

WIND fury totem

#

you already in the air with wind

#

you don't need more wind

#

think about it man

shy pecan
#

Gottem

balmy condor
royal lantern
balmy condor
#

banning you

royal lantern
#

fox totems are bis

royal lantern
#

look at them man

#

compare that to the 3polygon sticks Orcs have

shy pecan
#

Forgot you’re a furry

balmy condor
shy pecan
#

I just like this pic, even doesn’t fit me RAGEY

earnest remnant
royal lantern
#

ofc not, you are a raccon

earnest remnant
#

raccoons does have fur

royal lantern
runic hinge
#

That is a luscious looking raccoon

royal lantern
#

it looks so soft

earnest remnant
#

probably alot less fluff than you would think

#

fur is kinda rough

royal lantern
#

but it LOOKS soft

balmy condor
#

what if I gave him a bath

#

with a really nice conditioner

royal lantern
#

stealthi doesnt wash himself

balmy condor
#

conditioner makes my hair soft

royal lantern
#

dont be ridicolous

balmy condor
#

conditioner make raccoon fur soft?

shy pecan
royal lantern
#

no

#

but stinky

shy pecan
earnest remnant
blazing jewel
#

Going to light a scented candle and pour a glass of wine while I reminisce about 10.1 exsang

#

Who’s with me

drifting cloud
#

you a big fan of exsang in abberus?

blazing jewel
#

No Okay

balmy condor
balmy condor
junior yoke
#

Can some1 explain?

balmy condor
#

My favorite is I say assassination doesn’t need buffs

junior yoke
#

#nerfsub or #buffassa ?

balmy condor
#

And then people say that I want to kill assa

#

And always ask for nerfs

junior yoke
balmy condor
#

People always want buffs

#

And never nerfs

#

Cause they don’t get how balance works

junior yoke
#

Fair buff would be to x2 assa rogue dmg

drifting cloud
#

dont listen to him, hes a sub propaganda machine

balmy condor
#

True

#

Buff spriest

junior yoke
#

Ou sh*t 👀 look what he said

balmy condor
#

Buff warlock

#

I’m a shadow in the rogue discord

#

Asking for blizzard to destroy the rogue specs

junior yoke
#

Outlaw rogue needs an AOE buff

balmy condor
#

Because I’m anti-rogue

#

I played the LOOOONG game

#

Worked my way up in the community

#

To destroy it from the inside

junior yoke
#

Why u lied to us and said pants not bis?

#

Gonna inform about u

balmy condor
#

True true

junior yoke
#

Archon web is mad

balmy condor
#

I’m an evil guy

junior yoke
#

Sylvannas dagger > nick of time

balmy condor
#

And then I yap for 20 minutes on YouTube about why the bis shit is stupid and why I don’t recommend my own gear page on wowhead, a guide I write

junior yoke
#

Hahhahahaha ajah

balmy condor
#

But then people get mad that I yapped for 20 minutes

#

Can’t win

#

Dont yap and people get mad

#

Yap and people get mad

winged sun
#

True

clever sapphire
#

Cause you state facts instead of giving us a fairytale

balmy condor
#

Get comfy

clever sapphire
#

Im barely managing to stay awake at work, im scared

balmy condor
#

One warm summer day, the bone spike woke up

#

And went on a journey

drifting cloud
balmy condor
#

The rogue said “man bone spike is sick”

#

And talented into it

winged sun
junior yoke
#

Nah I think that’s just we’re not all old school here

balmy condor
#

Oh boy, long day at work for the bone spike!

#

So the bone spike got to work

#

Doing its damage

#

But the rogue didn’t appreciate the bone spike

#

The rogue was saying mean things

#

“You do no damage! What a terrible button!” The rogue would say

junior yoke
#

Can I reroll to dh?

balmy condor
#

Bone spike didn’t like that at all

#

After all, bone spike was trying its best

clever sapphire
#

You gotta hit me where it hurts the most dont you besad

junior yoke
#

Which would you seriously guys say is the archi enemy of rogues?

#

Mele I mean

clever sapphire
#

Tanks

junior yoke
#

No man

#

Dds I mean

earnest remnant
#

Outlaw

blazing jewel
shy pecan
#

Always

junior yoke
#

I hate dhs

#

Just go WUWUWUWUWUWU 1milliok dmg

blazing jewel
#

Idk about that one

clever sapphire
#

I mean sub rogue press cb sectech in big pull and he also goes 1m dmg, keeping the dmg up is a different story tho

blazing jewel
#

Dh at a base level doesn’t seem that hard but to maximize it is completely different

junior yoke
#

Anyways, fuck dhs

clever sapphire
#

I dont mind dhs, if they press darkness im fine with them already

#

And if you turn off details your only reason to why you hate them is also gone

runic hinge
rotund oak
#

also purge that outlaw channel from DH discord enjoyers-like

sick scarab
#

guys using haste versa gems is ok or never go versa ?

rotund oak
#

sim urself friend,there is no answer better than the robot

sick scarab
#

i simmes ofc

#

simmed ofc

runic hinge
#

Robot got me using some haste/verse and verse/mastery some haste/mastery

#

I trust robit

rotund oak
#

same here,for my sin set up im using haste/vers on blazefury medallion

runic hinge
#

I finally got something to replace that last week

#

I’m keeping it around just in case it’s secret op for proccing eggnog ring next season

livid mesa
#

Can you shiv bolstering?

royal lantern
#

no?

#

its no enrage lol

rotund oak
#

no shiv dispells enrage effects

livid mesa
#

okay just double checking

keen spruce
#

if it's not raging week

#

you can shiv

#

juggernauts in atal

#

but there's no real reason

#

or the dragons in fall before the 3rd boss

#

which will reduce tank damage

#

and the growth

#

in EB

#

if a cast goes off

#

empowered growth or something like that

#

w/e it's called

runic hinge
#

Shiv is the goat ability

#

Wish it lasted twice as long and we had twice as many charges

keen spruce
#

Arterial Precision: replace Mutilate with Shiv and remove its CD. and also hit 5 targets smile_dog

#

good soup

#

no raging

balmy condor
#

Huhhhhhh

keen spruce
#

perfectly balanced

royal lantern
keen spruce
#

nothing wrong with this at all

spice spire
#

I’m going back to sleep

desert inlet
#

gn

spice surge
#

Shiv is almost a root when you have juiced crippling specced in m+

spice spire
fallen forge
arctic socket
#

Y’all don’t always keep crippling poison 24/7 with improved poisons?

crisp pine
#

I only apply crippling on sanguine when there's a frost mage in the group

#

To make Tanks mald

arctic socket
#

More hp = more pad

clever sapphire
#

gotta make sure you press a big shiv after the frostmage used frost nova

spice spire
#

Amen

royal lantern
spice spire
#

Taking that tank to the hyperbolic time chamber

crisp pine
#

It's insane how much I hate bolstering btw

#

That shit puts me to fuckin sleep

clever sapphire
#

didnt do a single key yet, any keys this week that are just horrible?

#

besides everbloom

crisp pine
#

Think most people hate Rise
I'm an enjoyer tho

#

fucking love fighting Tyr for 7 Minutes

clever sapphire
#

there isnt much bolstering going on in rise tho

#

or do i remember wrong

crisp pine
#

Rise is just cringe in general for a lot of people

#

The Dungeon that trascends Affixes

clever sapphire
#

i mean only bad part about it is that you run for like 10 minutes, fight random ass waves of mobs that are half hp already and than you walk for another 5 minutes

#

bosses are fine (well feck chromie but its just a personal hate)

civic sedge
#

wheres the spec sheet

#

for the dps talents?

#

comparison

#

what was the command

clever sapphire
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
civic sedge
#

nice ty

civic sedge
#

something isn't right

#

the fuu sheet is wrong

#

very wrong

spice spire
#

?

steel ridge
#

wrong about what?

civic sedge
#

the best build

#

isnot listed

#

in fuu's sheet

royal lantern
#

???

#

context

#

pls

civic sedge
#

this is build 1 he lists

#

259k dps

royal lantern
#

for what

#

shit+?

civic sedge
#

this is build 2 he lists, 273k dps

#

dungeon slice on assass

steel ridge
#

theres literally both

civic sedge
#

however there is a 3rd build that is better

#

than those two

royal lantern
#

you realise that assa has no "best build" in that minigame mode right?

#

like

civic sedge
#

according to icy veins this build is better

#

than the other two

crisp pine
#

aye wym minigame mode
I'm a serious wow player

thorn fjord
civic sedge
#

yet he did not test vs this build