assassination

[balmy condor]

borrowed power per expansion usually stays in that expansion

that's why we don't have artifacts, or azerite armor, or the heart of azeroth, or the legendary cape, or soulbinds, legendaries

it's already highly weird that covenant abilities made it into dragonflight to begin with

[royal lantern]

for rogue all 4 of them

when all sucked

[bronze sparrow]

Not the first time they have done something like that with popular abilities ( kingsbane ? )

[royal lantern]

ye but rogue covenant abilitys where like, the opposite of popular for the majority of their time lol

[balmy condor]

popular abilities come back at some point when they've lost the stigma of being from their respective source

no one thinks "oh yeah, kingsbane, from the artifact weapons from legion a decade ago"

they just see kingsbane

it's an evolution of the skill

[bronze sparrow]

I do 😄

[balmy condor]

well you're an old bag of shit

but like

[bronze sparrow]

I know 😉

[balmy condor]

there's a clear difference

between thing from 10 years ago

and thing from previous expansion

[storm forum]

I like the covenant abilities and Kingsbane. I'm the big winner from the trees.

[bronze sparrow]

So do I

[balmy condor]

I like the idea of echoing reprimand

in terms of adding a layer of gameplay to combo points other than "slam when orb red"

cause jesus fuck combo points are so piss boring

but aside from the design space ER is trying to go into

I couldn't really care for the rest of them

[royal lantern]

rogue covenant abilitys, we have:

ranged ambush

get some mastery

your spend a bit less energy on generators 3x

and whatever the fuck sepsis is

[storm forum]

Man I wish I could take ranged ambush and whatever the fuck sepsis is

And get some mastery

[steel ridge]

in SL sepsis was just an inverse kingsbane

[storm forum]

Man get some mastery would slot in so well into our rotation (ignore that it's got a weird CD). Just use it the global before the first env before dm. I'm sure we all would hate having that button that we have to keybind and delay our opener even longer. Yeah never mind I talked myself out of it.

[royal lantern]

ye, we have the IMRPOVED ones

like, OG sepsis and ER

lol

[steel ridge]

sadly sepsis is the lame base version without the chunking

[royal lantern]

they where some peak "never really played rogue or thought aboutnit" shit

like

"OMG and then the dot runs out and you can use a STEALTH ABILITY"

and you sit there like

"so....1x ambush?"

[steel ridge]

i mean, i never used sepsis for the stealth abilitsy but for the insane burst it did

in SL

in DF sepsis was just used for the stealth garrote xD

[royal lantern]

you mean because sepsis was so bad that they could not salvage it by its function alone cus a stealth ability is not really anything

and then just buffed the dmg by 20000000% over 2years?

[balmy condor]

yeah crazy how sepsis was never used for the stealth ability

and then it got buffed

to give twice as many of those stealth abilities

and sepsis itself was buffed by a ridiculous % because now it's affected by mastery

super weird

[steel ridge]

it got buffed after it was gutted first 😄

iirc the new sepsis from the skill tree had a much lower base damage then the actual covenant ability did

[balmy condor]

what

[storm forum]

Sepsis was cool in SL cause it gave us giga mastery from the conduit talent thing

[balmy condor]

163% and 77%

DOUBLE

I mean technically it went into dragonflight

exactly the same way

with 162

but it got buffed before the expac released

to 261

and then tuning last minute to 313

so idk

gutted first

is a really weird thing to say

considering it basically launched dragonflight at 2x the value

[steel ridge]

i just remember trying the new skills in prepatch while still in SL

and sepsis was a shadow of its former self, might have been the conduit not working anymore

[balmy condor]

or maybe just human issue

[steel ridge]

it used to do like 10% of my damage breakdown in SL

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ayk3zWvjrZQcNRXG#fight=32&type=damage-done&source=16

random log with sepsis

[balmy condor]

uh huh

[steel ridge]

burst on the protoform adds

so it DID damage

[balmy condor]

yeah

melee damage

[steel ridge]

how much does it do now? 3%?

[balmy condor]

4% yeh

[steel ridge]

after it got doubled and effected by mastery

[balmy condor]

oop

look at that

so yeah

it does damage

and gives more garrote damage

idk why I gotta argue that a number is higher than another number

is this really how stupid we're gonna be

[desert inlet]

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-toby-the-cat-nod-yes-yes-yes-hooman-gif-17105827

[balmy condor]

also in that log you played with the conduit that doesn't exist

[steel ridge]

you dont have to, all i said was, that sepsis in SL was alot burstier when it still had the conduit 😮

[balmy condor]

not that it was any good to begin with

but ya know

you decided to play it

[steel ridge]

i had my reasons, for sure xD

point was, it was more of an inverse kingsbane back then, since the first ticks did big dam and then it went down, i mean the pvp oneshots with sepsis where a thing.

now its just a meh give me improved garrote

[balmy condor]

okay bud

[steel ridge]

[royal lantern]

now kiss

[steel ridge]

[royal lantern]

[steel ridge]

when hero talents

where TWW sims

[raven flower]

Was sepsis a thing in S1 of dragonflight?

Didn't play too much rogue then so can't remember

[steel ridge]

more in season 2

season 1 was bonespike dominated, for different reasons

[thin ingot]

guy every how offten do we get a new caralyst charge?

[celest prawn]

weekly in 10.2.5

[fringe lily]

Hate bonespike

[thin ingot]

ty

[spice spire]

False bestie

[royal lantern]

right worstie

[spice spire]

[willow grotto]

10.2.5 and no nerf for sub, Why not

[royal lantern]

cus 10.2.5 is no balance patch

[willow grotto]

I know, but it should have been

[royal lantern]

i mean, yeha

but it isnt

so why bother

wait 1-2 weeks lol

[hollow dirge]

sub is not assa, assa is not allowed to be amazing

[willow grotto]

Limit I am insulted in raid because assa is not optimal... 😄

but when I link my WCL, it makes them agree directly

[royal lantern]

why the fuck do you play with them

[lusty kraken]

sub is their favorite rogue spec for some reason

it always ends up the meta rogue spec

waiting for the outlaw nerf

[royal lantern]

eh, sub had a really long time where it was BAD bad

its just

recently they insidt on giving sub the best dmg patterns avaible

[keen spruce]

after Zul

sub got taken out back and shot

[royal lantern]

and never really do anything number wise

[willow grotto]

I stop raiding HL because not have the time and the desire, so I joined an unpretentious guild that can't dodge waves on igira mythic

[keen spruce]

for 2 xpacs

[royal lantern]

and they took the corpse and burned it

[keen spruce]

and what's crazzy is that sub wasn't even good

[royal lantern]

yeha no, in SL sub was allready better all the time

[keen spruce]

it was just good on zul

[lusty kraken]

now they are overcompensating

sub meta every season

[royal lantern]

so you have a guild that is stuck on the 2nd boss mythic RIGHT NOW (i dont judge with progress and prog goals cus thats a personal thing)

and then blames somebody for playing a specific Spec?

bruh

you found grade A brainlets there

[lusty kraken]

what I've learned is to stay away from any PI spec

[royal lantern]

i called it

[willow grotto]

It's like in League of Legends, the less good you are the more you think you can give advice

[royal lantern]

i called from day 1 of the Patch, you DONT want pi

[keen spruce]

good old dunning kruger

[lusty kraken]

they ruined 3 specs because of that ability (unholy, demo, assa)

only one recovered

and doesn't need PI anymore

[willow grotto]

It's been a long time since I heard that

[keen spruce]

yeah but they have imps fall out of their asshole and randomly brick keys

[lusty kraken]

yes but at least they do good dps without pi

unholy is in the gutters

[keen spruce]

great dps right up until they pull double bears onto the first boss of dht

[royal lantern]

ye cus demo is no giga burst 0dmg outside of it spec anymofe

[keen spruce]

half way through the bossfight

[lusty kraken]

cmon imps don't spawn that far from the warlock

[keen spruce]

they spawn

then they run out of the boss room

and pull the bear

s

they do it in throne too

and fall

last boss

they'll run out and pull the pack

if you skip it

[lusty kraken]

oh yeah it happened to us on fall

I was the warlock

[keen spruce]

[royal lantern]

they will fix it soon, dont worry

[keen spruce]

idc if they fix it i just don't invite warlocks to half of the keys

[royal lantern]

better question

why are you doing keys

m+

[lusty kraken]

because it's fun?

[subtle tundra]

wish things were fun anymore

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-9360083726644374992

[royal lantern]

REAL

[lusty kraken]

idk watching dps meters is fun

[keen spruce]

key fun

number go up

[lusty kraken]

if group is terrible I just leave

[keen spruce]

watching dps meteres just makes me sad

cuzz i'm a pirate now and i have no idea what i'm doing

[spice spire]

Banned

[keen spruce]

plz

[lusty kraken]

you should still be top dps

[keen spruce]

end my suffering

yeah my single digit key % parsing on pirate

is better than my best assas logs

I hit a solid 0 parse on a 27 wcm

and it was my 3rd highest logs

log

in any wcm i've done

[ember mural]

Just proc ace more 4head

[subtle tundra]

yea dude thank god assa got nerfed twice

!!!!!!

[royal lantern]

blocked

you where cool once

[willow grotto]

The problem that arises atm is that the raid was very well designed for the rogue assa, but we got nerf because of that. In S4 with the fated raids I think we will be very bad

[lusty kraken]

I want to see that chart without PI

[royal lantern]

tbf, NOBODY cares about fated lol

[subtle tundra]

thank god its not a competitive season

[royal lantern]

its frking fated

undertuned bosses that where nerfed 6x with a dmg amp affix

[lusty kraken]

I'm straight up rerolling to warlock, I've learned my lesson

[willow grotto]

I would have liked to talk about the s1 raid of the next expansion but it's too far away

[subtle tundra]

volcoross logs
highest sub 293k
highest outlaw 273k
highest assa 243k
all no externals

thank god we got nerfed

or something

outta control

a casual 20% more dps

[willow grotto]

50k diff

[subtle tundra]

yes ~20%

[keen spruce]

top logs a this point in the season are kind of pointless to compare

[willow grotto]

Especially since it's just mono, sub and outlaw we also do big damage quickly in AoE

[keen spruce]

especially on early bosses

[subtle tundra]

so do we though

[keen spruce]

volc is getting smoked

[subtle tundra]

spatter is a thing

[keen spruce]

in like 3:30 now

or less

has nothing to do with class balance

[willow grotto]

not really, we have good aoe if target live a little longer

[subtle tundra]

not really

spatter is bursty with kb

[kind forge]

but kb also has to tick

[spice surge]

Specs that have (or can have) 3 min cds do better damage on 3:30 min fights than 2 min cd classes like assa

Not really a chocker

[spice spire]

Chocker? I hardly know er!

[keen spruce]

also if you're going to use Volc standings to suggest that assas is bad

you'd also need to conclude that Frost and UHDK

are too strong

which would be a crazy take

[subtle tundra]

ok, then nymue
266k sub
249k outlaw
212k assa

and nymue is a really good assa fight

[lean portal]

its a bad assa fight no ?

[subtle tundra]

you get zoldyck value on adds with kb in intermission

[lean portal]

adds making us hold cds

[keen spruce]

same thing

[subtle tundra]

who tf holds

[keen spruce]

are you concluding

[subtle tundra]

you send

[keen spruce]

that WW is too strong?

[lean portal]

send where

[keen spruce]

like again looking at top logs

is not productive

[lean portal]

sending on add makes me hold 12s at least

[subtle tundra]

on cooldown

but you dont lose any usages

its literally the same

[subtle tundra]

those graphs include externals

i have stopped receiving externals

[keen spruce]

that's unlucky

[subtle tundra]

and wont change spec

[keen spruce]

logs are also broken

cuzz of aug

and the point still stands

that top mythic logs

[spice surge]

Excluding and including externals both skew the statistics

[keen spruce]

are fkin poitless

[subtle tundra]

then we have no data and we can just assume all specs are equal

[keen spruce]

pointless*

no i mean you should probably look at like heroic 50th

[lusty kraken]

some are more equal than others

[willow grotto]

aug doesnt count for ur dps

[spice surge]

Theres fewer "good" players without externals, so its going to look worse than it is

[subtle tundra]

erm

[spice surge]

It does a little bit, because some things arent working correctly

[subtle tundra]

i think i play ok and dont get externals cause others get it for logging, since dps dont matter unless on last 2 bosses

check mate

i know im not every case

im just joking

[spice surge]

Not really that much as sin, mostly timestrike, but sub also has their 2p and velf racial

Which is like ~2-3k per aug if youre a velf on a fight like volcoross

[keen spruce]

i mean the log hooks don't work correctly across the board

was my understanding

like we know this is not accurate

proper attribution should have aug at #1

[spice surge]

Thats just cope

[keen spruce]

at the highest %

[spice surge]

For rogues its the things i said thats not attributing correctly

[keen spruce]

idk maybe it just all adds up

when you take the other aug targets

[willow grotto]

Imagine, have a aug in your guild and he buff healer

Imagine 😄

[keen spruce]

our aug is a casual "pick 4 targets and they're getting the sauce all fight" kind of player

which is fine

except that he missed my entire lusted KB on the 3rd damage amp on smold

along with everyone else's CDs

with ebon might

on our kill

[arctic socket]

Imagine having externals

Just be nice

[keen spruce]

u just need

to do more damage than everyone

before you get nerfed

then GM wants to keep good player happy

[arctic socket]

Bold of you to assume my old raid group even had those classes

[keen spruce]

[arctic socket]

Not a single Aug

Not a single priest

[keen spruce]

our aug was rogue

[arctic socket]

No shamans

[keen spruce]

until week 2 of this tier

wait hol up

[willow grotto]

I already heard from a healer "my best stats are crit so the aug must buff me" and the person concerned said ok. I didn't say anything because I didn't want to waste my time

[keen spruce]

what kind of fkin raid team are you on

[arctic socket]

Imma dm a picture to ya

It will explain alot

[keen spruce]

most like

[arctic socket]

Just go read what I sent you

[keen spruce]

late CE guilds are pretty happy to float a grey parsing enh and mage for the buffs

and normally

you're gonna have a few priests floating around

[arctic socket]

I’m looking for a new group

Expect in the new group i get into I won’t talk in discord

[keen spruce]

bruther wtf

did i just read

[arctic socket]

Read it all?

[keen spruce]

[arctic socket]

Yeah

Yeah

[keen spruce]

u gotta get outta there

[arctic socket]

It got worse

[keen spruce]

i think the last crumbs of io

have passed me by

on this fine push week

left so much meat on the bone

no 28s done

still sitting on 25 rise

[arctic socket]

Don’t say crumbs

Bro

You’re gonna give me ptsd

My poor eyes

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/crumbing-crumb-gif-15867514877813383363

[arctic socket]

Shmeeps

The dude sent me videos recordings of him saying imma blank for you

Bro took a picture of my in game character

And did a tribute

[spice spire]

[arctic socket]

Good morning quake

[spice spire]

Gn

[arctic socket]

[keen spruce]

you need to call the police

[spice spire]

That’s what I said

I’m gonna do a tribute to shmeepy

It’s just /spitting

[arctic socket]

Bro

[spice spire]

[arctic socket]

I wish it was spitting

[spice spire]

[arctic socket]

And wasn’t what cursed thing I saw

[spice spire]

Police angle

[arctic socket]

I won’t ever be able to look at the mage tower set the same again

[spice spire]

Unfort

[arctic socket]

It might be a uninstall angle for me

And play Poe or RuneScape

[quiet oar]

Where is the :logas: emote

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-water-drinking-yummy-tongue-gif-18022349

[spice spire]

Rough bestie.
There are good guilds out there for you, idk where they are but they’re somewhere. I didn’t rush back once my guild folded sucked

[spice spire]

God I wish

[spice spire]

[keen spruce]

i think i bedge

sun almost up

no more booze or popcorn

[spice spire]

Same here king

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

Except none of that anyway

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

Still snowed in. Hate it here

[ember mural]

Wtf

[keen spruce]

that's just more george time

[ember mural]

I had to drive in today and it was -7 before wind chill

[arctic socket]

[ember mural]

Oh it's -8 now

[spice spire]

8 inches Here is too much for the infrastructure

[arctic socket]

That seems pretty cold

[ember mural]

It's warmer in Anchorage Alaska rn

[spice spire]

We’re at a very warm 9 rn

[arctic socket]

It’s 62 here atm

[spice spire]

Windchill only -4

[spice spire]

[ember mural]

[spice spire]

Nice

That’s what you get for being a cheese head bozo

[ember mural]

[spice spire]

Yeah pal milk this

[nimble zinc]

what is everyone taking as their second embellishment? I already have toxic thorn wraps and was looking for another toxic armor patch piece to go with it. Has anyone tried this? I was wondering if it would benefit from shiv / nature dmg bonus.

[spice spire]

It’s bad

[nimble zinc]

does anyone take lariat or anything else as 2nd embellishment? or does it not matter.

just do whatever sims highest?

[spice spire]

Ye

[gusty mirage]

Lariat is only good with full sockets, so keep that in mind

[shy pecan]

[subtle tundra]

Do you really want to do it higher though?

[nimble zinc]

also, is it true that more haste makes my dots tick faster?

[royal lantern]

yes

[royal lantern]

"8 inches" "here" is too much "for the infrastructure"

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-pissi-twitch-7tv-gif-7223094372649290081

[arctic socket]

That Is a lot

[oak tangle]

Just a regular night down here

[junior yoke]

No idea what brisbane is tbh

[near valley]

Happy winter

[gusty mirage]

made up city in a made up country that's supposedly on the bottom side of our flat earth

[junior yoke]

Yeah I just checked

Australia

[gusty mirage]

Australians are the government lying to us

next memz will tell us birds are real

[junior yoke]

It doesn’t exist right?

[near valley]

Birds are a government Psyop

[gusty mirage]

I refuse to believe there's an animal that hops around and can beat prime mike tyson in boxing

so it can't be real

[manic quartz]

☹️

[gusty mirage]

@junior yoke yeah this definitely is made up

why they got benjamin franklin animals there

[near valley]

Dysfunctional animal

Meaning of meaningless existence

[gusty mirage]

do you live on the sun

wtf

[near valley]

Best part is I gotta wear a suit to work

[gusty mirage]

[near valley]

Living near the equator life

[spice spire]

Not everything is an innuendo man

[past bobcat]

My temps are the same oxi must be Canadian

[near valley]

Sounds like an insult

[gusty mirage]

God I fucking wish

can Canada just annex michigan already

at least the lower peninsula

[junior yoke]

Hahahaha darn it

[gusty mirage]

american can keep the UP

[junior yoke]

I wanted to go to australia or thailand on 2025

Guess I’ll go to thailand

[gusty mirage]

who let my dumbass install windows on a 512gb SSD instead of my 1TB nvme???

[royal lantern]

im really bored man

[junior yoke]

What they show us

What it actually is

[ember mural]

[junior yoke]

He told me that

[shy pecan]

Did I read something about people putting mayo on their grilled cheese in here?

[near valley]

I've seen this to be the case yes

I prefer bbq sauce or ketchup tbf

[junior yoke]

I prefer pizza

[spice surge]

Papua new guinea catching strays

[gusty mirage]

we don't talk about that

[shy pecan]

[junior yoke]

[gusty mirage]

do guinea pigs come from papua new guinea

[junior yoke]

Is that a question?

[gusty mirage]

all I'm saying

is supposedly they came from south america

[spice surge]

No theyre from south america

[gusty mirage]

and guinea is in africa

and papua new guinea is in oceania

there's some fuckery going on

and I want to get to the bottom of it

[junior yoke]

@government

[gusty mirage]

this sounds like the french's fault

was papua new guinea a french colony

[spice surge]

Iirc guinea was some west african tribe that some europeans then ended up calling pretty much everybody with a darker skin tone than them, so the source of the confusion is just racism

[oak tangle]

these guys are like pandas in that they eat a food source that is objectively bad for them, but to top it off, they also have rampant clamydia

[gusty mirage]

so they're norwegian?

I'll get to the bottom of this

@shrewd night why norway got a chlamydia problem bro

[shrewd night]

You know that air carrier that came through last year?

...Yeah

[gusty mirage]

fuckin americans man

both literally and figuratively in this case

[near valley]

Was going to say lmao

[oak tangle]

ayelmao

[gray crest]

Us navy and chlamidya? Sounds about right

[gusty mirage]

this is the american education system on display

mfers can't even use autocorrect

[oak tangle]

hey, they at least put the h in, i missed it

[gusty mirage]

yeah but you didn't make me read it in a southern accent

so I forgave you

[gray crest]

I'm too tired to deal with it tbh

[gusty mirage]

bro you're literally the oldest 20 year old I know

wtf

in bed by 10pm

[shy pecan]

Btw, did you know that Norweigian navy has barcodes on their ships?

[oak tangle]

for the better, i've never had to deal with it enough to know how to spell it, so you win some you lose some

[gray crest]

Don't forget the back pain

[gusty mirage]

damn

[shy pecan]

It's so that when they return to port, they can Scandinavian.

[gusty mirage]

roujin when we hanging out

I'll fly to you

[gusty mirage]

I'm banning you

[shy pecan]

Also, tf, Roujin is 20?

[gusty mirage]

he's like 24

[shy pecan]

Same diff

[gray crest]

If you come to DC we going to as many of the 5m+ museums we somehow have

And I'm 26

[gusty mirage]

same thing

[shy pecan]

Oh okay

[gusty mirage]

you're fucked in about a year bud

[shy pecan]

Same diff

[gusty mirage]

I'd love to see all the museums honoring hundreds of years of genocide and imperialism

that's so romantic of you

[oak tangle]

26 is when my neck pain started too, our generation is fucked

[gray crest]

That might be the African American History museum. The exterior also may or may not be the ugliest of the Smithsonian museums

[gusty mirage]

homie that's every museum

[oak tangle]

on a scale of 1 to 100 how likely am i to get shot if i go to america

[gusty mirage]

where are you going in america

[gray crest]

Depends. Baltimore? 100%

[wet thistle]

Depends what part of baltimore

[oak tangle]

the only people i know in the US are in michigan, and pensylvania

[gusty mirage]

yikes

starting off strong

save the money and buy cocaine

there aint shit to do in the midwest bro

[oak tangle]

probs why i met them gaming tbh

[wet thistle]

Pennsylvania can be anything from gang violence to tractor races

[gusty mirage]

hey now

don't forget our Mennonite brethren

[shy pecan]

And watching Philly teams implode

[wet thistle]

Oh right and all the places where you can get some great milk

[subtle tundra]

on a scale of 1 to 100 how likely am I to get stabbed if I go to London

[gusty mirage]

apparently the mennonites have communities here in michigan too

that was something

very nice people

just a little odd

[oak tangle]

ummmm, to be honest, i couldn't tell you, if you wanted to know your chances of dying to a snake bite here though, it's about 0

[wet thistle]

I used to see Mennonite kids in the city parts huddled around a single phone on some public wifi

[gusty mirage]

which part of london

people overestimate their chances of getting harmed in other places

[oak tangle]

chances of getting a snake bite though?? probably quite high

[gusty mirage]

as someone who was too stubborn to overpay for gas on a trip to chicago

I filled up gas on the south side of chicago and was perfectly fine

once you get over the 8" of bullet proof glass inside the gas station

[wet thistle]

I've lived in NYC for 31 years and I've never been in danger

[gusty mirage]

it's like any other gas station

[subtle tundra]

Greenwich

[gusty mirage]

google tells me it is a medium crime level

so I'll say 30%

[subtle tundra]

But I'll be wondering about

[oak tangle]

if you're looking to get stabbed, you guys should visit western sydney

[gusty mirage]

or your neighbor's house at 2am

good way of getting stabbed

[gray crest]

I'm about to leave work early

Quite literally nothing to do

[oak tangle]

even less when you get home, wow down for like another 7 hours

[gray crest]

I quit this past weekend

Sub runs out on Feb 2nd

[oak tangle]

i'd do the same, if there was anything else to play

[gusty mirage]

[oak tangle]

i've taken up learning to play sub

[gusty mirage]

@gray crest I think jeff's quitting

like permanently

[gray crest]

Never would have thought that in a million years

[gusty mirage]

he found a job

he's retiring from the goblin life

[oak tangle]

that's a vibe

[gray crest]

I was actually about to ask if he found a job lmao

[oak tangle]

i got about 4 months left till i've finished my latest study, so prayge i can quit then

[gusty mirage]

I'm probably not playing fated

[thorn fjord]

@gusty mirage

[oak tangle]

our guild has put our raid team on hiatus until TWW

unless they announce something interesting for fated, it's gonna stay that way

[thorn fjord]

Am i getting dagger today?

[gray crest]

You don't wanna do fated dathea?

[thorn fjord]

Feels like im getting dagger today

[gusty mirage]

I'll see what I can do

[gusty mirage]

I don't wanna do anything

[thorn fjord]

Hell yeah bro

[gusty mirage]

fated or not

[gray crest]

Fair lol

[oak tangle]

as a side note, how do you recruit a raid leader

[subtle tundra]

samesies

[oak tangle]

cause literally none of our guilds officer group wants to lead but we always end up passing around who has to lead

[gusty mirage]

you don't

[subtle tundra]

i think i peaked this season so its probably going down hill from now

might aswell quit before the fall

[gusty mirage]

raid leaders are born out of necessity

if you bring someone in to raid lead half the raid team's going to hate them, guaranteed

[hot oriole]

I disagree

[oak tangle]

yerp, been 2 expansions of "so anyone wanna try leading next tier?" to no response

[hot oriole]

My old raid lead literally watches a stream to do call outs he's not even in the raid 99% of the time

And everyone liked him just fine

[lean portal]

real af

[gusty mirage]

I mean that's a little different than specifically trying to recruit a RL

[subtle tundra]

i dont necessarily like my rl but he has been my rl for the past 4 years

[oak tangle]

i feel like if you find someone actively looking to raid lead a team, then they've likely just been kicked from a previous guild cause everyone hated them

[subtle tundra]

i dont think he likes me either

[hot oriole]

Find someone knowledgeable of game mechanics that also isn't a pretentious cunt. Easier said than done but it's possible.

[gusty mirage]

not necessarily, some people just have a change of schedule or something

or are looking for a more relaxed raid environment, etc

[oak tangle]

true, but it feels (at least to me) a very weird thing for someone to go looking for a guild to lead

[gusty mirage]

Agreed, it's very possible

[oak tangle]

too unnatural

[gusty mirage]

what usually ends up happening in those cases, is the person has a ton of in depth knowledge about mechanics and has done it before and they volunteer

aka @marble hemlock ending up as RL almost every tier for a few bosses

[oak tangle]

pretty much yeah. most times it feels like a stop gap as a favor "for just this tier" then they/you get stuck doing it

[marble hemlock]

[gusty mirage]

I know I can't RL

I'm not nice

[subtle tundra]

2 days left until 4 years of misery anniversary

[thorn fjord]

@gusty mirage I would totally raid for you tho bro

[gusty mirage]

I'm an actual cunt about people failing

[marble hemlock]

yeah but youre my cunt so i always forgive you

[gusty mirage]

also I don't make excuses when I mess up, so when someone gives me an excuse I'd blas0n rage

[oak tangle]

I can RL fine, but i can't maintain my dps while doing it, but that's probably a side effect of having to micromanage more with the skill of players

[dark token]

@gusty mirage can we get role icons for CT and maybe sudden demise, since there is a lot of build variation and discussions in m+ and the icons are to indicate people's preferred builds. Stuff like sanguine blades or snd is always taken and less relevant now if there is concern about too many icons

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575167

[marble hemlock]

this is why certain classes/specs/roles are just more suited to RLing than others

i.e. mage is typically one of the best ones

[gusty mirage]

oh the snd one was to troll @royal lantern specifically, idk why everyone wants it but yeah I can make one

[marble hemlock]

especially firemage

cuz you combust, and then you just RL for the next minute or so while you do no dmg anyway

[oak tangle]

I just hate the person management side of it, and having to cut people or that sort of stuff

I went spriest last tier to lead, it was okay. but i struggle a bit being a little unfamiliar with it

[gusty mirage]

fuu will have to add it the bot, but I can make the role and assign it for you if you want @dark token

[oak tangle]

the one time i decided to shut up and play i get an orange, who'da thought

[shy pecan]

SnD was more for the memes

[quiet oar]

Snd is a lifestyle

[shy pecan]

@royal lantern I heard you love SnD

[dull cloak]

who actually hates snd here

[oak tangle]

<

i hate that it exists as a keybind on this spec, because it's a press it once and ignore it, but i still have to press it

[quiet oar]

Tryan

[oak tangle]

i hate it that it exists on the other specs because i have to press it and keep an eye on it as it doesn't auto refresh

[thorn fjord]

I do

Make it passive again damnit

[quiet oar]

But you are also the Bad rogue

[past forum]

I don’t hate it, I just don’t understand why it exists, like what does having it exist accomplish.

[quiet oar]

So Argument invalidated

[thorn fjord]

Class fantasy 🤣

[oak tangle]

give it back to outlaw only

[thorn fjord]

No man make it passive

OL don’t need more buttons to press

[shy pecan]

SnD convo starts again

[thorn fjord]

We’re already playing symphony #9

[past forum]

We don’t do much slicing or dicing, right? It’s mostly just stabbing.

[oak tangle]

yeah but i don't play outlaw, so if they are so determined to have it exist, have it exist for just them

it is absolutely mind boggling to me that when trying to cut down on keybinds for sin, they keep SND in the with CTTC

[thorn fjord]

Its a vicious cycle

[gilded oasis]

guys wanna talk about stat weights next?

[past forum]

Idk it’s not like absolute and complete total piss on sub, right? Like you can use it as dance cdr and dump cp between packs before you open with premed

[thorn fjord]

Honestly need more humanoid raid bosses for pick pocket glyph

[oak tangle]

CTTC should just give you snd regardless of if you have it active or not

[shy pecan]

It's a bloody mess when we talk about it, you could say

[shy pecan]

I'm down

[royal lantern]

i just learned that

im honored

an entire role icon to troll me is 10/10

[thorn fjord]

I still remember when @royal lantern was a lowly heroic raider... Look how far he's coming

its beautiful

🥹

[royal lantern]

huh?

[thorn fjord]

lol im just teasing you 😛

[gusty mirage]

[thorn fjord]

Didnt you only raid heroic S2?

[royal lantern]

nah

lol

[shy pecan]

Wut

[thorn fjord]

Ah mb then im dumb

[oak tangle]

probs thinking of me tbh

[thorn fjord]

Or tony

[oak tangle]

lowly heroic raider fits perfectly

although.... I am making a second rogue to potentially try mythic, because loyalty reasons to my guild on my main rogue

[past forum]

Well Tony is mythic irl cause Stu Squad

[oak tangle]

my ego got boosted the other day where some rando in a pug tried to recruit me for this tier

[gusty mirage]

@dark token gave you the CT roll homie

role

I need more covfefe

[shy pecan]

Same

[thorn fjord]

My eye is twitching I might have had too much

[royal lantern]

that means you consumed enough coffe/energy drinks to play Outlaw

[thorn fjord]

Ive been playing the fuck out of OL

[oak tangle]

Does anyone know how to change the password for the auto login of the warcraft logs companion app? it always tries to log me in with the wrong password because i change my account, but i can't see a place to change that

[thorn fjord]

Clear app data

then log back in

[oak tangle]

excuse the noobness, but where and how to i clear that

[thorn fjord]

What kind of phone do you have

[oak tangle]

im on windows

not on phone

[thorn fjord]

ohh wow logs companion app

Stand alone or through Wolfpack/curse

[oak tangle]

overwolf

yeha

[thorn fjord]

Hmm i think you can uninstall the addon then reinstall it?

[oak tangle]

it auto fills my old password

[thorn fjord]

I'm on my mac right now so i cant really look 😦

[oak tangle]

i'll try

seems to have worked, we'll see though, ty

[spice spire]

I have arisen

[flint marsh]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[proven jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/meh-monday-morning-tired-coffee-break-gif-14544679

[maiden rover]

Like your computer has arisen? Or did you just get out of bed? Cause if you did then the breakfast I made you is prolly cold by now

[thorn fjord]

Got a boner?

[oak tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/amd-ryzen-amd-ryzen-amd-ryzen-7000-ryzen-7000-gif-5935058389577346718

do you have a ryzen?

[spice spire]

It has actually.
It’s scuffed. But I have a computer

[spice spire]

You wish

[maiden rover]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-andy-dwyer-jimmy-kimmel-interview-excited-gif-22198805

[spice spire]

@maiden rover how are you enjoying the tier king

[maiden rover]

Was having a blast until the whole guild drama. Now I’ve been feeling kinda lost trying to find a new home. I’m trialing for a guild now who just downed smoldy. I wasn’t in cause they had like 150 some pulls before I joined. But I’m the only enh so hoping to get in on that fresh tswift prog tonight

[thorn fjord]

Guild drama blows

[spice spire]

Yeah ngl that stopped my return. Sucks but we move on. Probably just sitting out until WW now because fated

[shy pecan]

Hello Kitty MMO time

[spice spire]

Nah

[thorn fjord]

Penguin universe

Or whatever that game was called that got shut down

[maiden rover]

Damn. Gonna miss out on all the fun weapons this season

[spice spire]

A tier without you isn’t where I wanna be

[dark token]

Thanks homie

[maiden rover]

I ain’t goin no where bb

[dark token]

Yeah every time I need to change guilds I end up quitting for a tier

It's really annoying and hard to find a good guild

[runic hinge]

I'd take that, I'm over slice and dice, I haven't heard my screeching about it lately

[dark token]

Join me brethern

[spice spire]

You already left me

[runic hinge]

Oh hell yeah, we made it

[maiden rover]

Just grabbing a pack of smokes. I’ll brb

[spice spire]

Wtf

[thorn fjord]

Dont forget the milk

[dark token]

now if only S2 tier won

[robust axle]

!plater

[runic hinge]

!wa there’s a couple in there

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[jaunty dew]

Curious as to how useful shadowmeld is on raid, anyone have had good usage out of it?

[runic hinge]

You can’t meld during bosses

[jaunty dew]

Due to raid damage or just disabled?

[runic hinge]

It’s okay for m+ but it doesn’t always work. But it’s great for canceling some mechanics

Bosses have true sight so you can’t leave combat with it

So you don’t get the restealth

[jaunty dew]

Bummer

Oh well, blood fury remains xD

[maiden rover]

If I come across a payphone I’ll give ya a call

[slim pebble]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[slim pebble]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[gilded oasis]

!uppies

[dark token]

this well go well

i know it

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/stable-ronaldo-pay-phone-hahahaha-lol-gif-20871661

[spice spire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/815858867430490113/1149541610158297108/Uppies.gif

[gilded oasis]

ty

[gilded oasis]

looks great to me

[thorn fjord]

Best priest addition all expansion imo

[royal lantern]

i just dont get why disc gets a "get holy wings and fly up and heal everyone" ability

before HOLY gets one

like, the ability itself screams holy

[gilded oasis]

they are disciplined wings, unholy you can say

[subtle tundra]

ill have you know holy get wings

its just that its holy pala

[gilded oasis]

when they're dead?

[harsh violet]

!kb

is there a macro list on here?

[gilded oasis]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/best-macros-addons

[thorn fjord]

! macro

doing it together will send you a DM

[harsh violet]

ty

[gilded oasis]

I didn't get a DM

[thorn fjord]

Moroes should have DM'd you

[gilded oasis]

Moroes hates me I killed him too many times

[thorn fjord]

worked for me hmm @spice spire anything im missing?

Servers up btw

[gilded oasis]

🏄‍♂️

[thorn fjord]

jesus my UI is JACKED right now

[gilded oasis]

I LOVE BIG PATCH DAYS

[sonic hollow]

how come i never see rogues in raid

ass feels really good in raid

[gilded oasis]

cause they are stealthed

[sonic hollow]

[thorn fjord]

bleh

[gilded oasis]

brooo I got an egg shell too

[thorn fjord]

Shoulders i guess

[gilded oasis]

Do I take socket or shoulders for tmog..hmmmm

[thorn fjord]

i dont have 489 shoulders so this is an easy choice

[balmy condor]

Servers up 3 hours early

[thorn fjord]

Christmas in January

Have fun with all your broken addons

Elvui is shot too

[balmy condor]

Don’t use elv

[gilded oasis]

they just overestimate now. people are happy when its early less happy when its extendo

[thorn fjord]

Good marketing

[gilded oasis]

I do it at work all the time

and then people think im amazing cause my shit is always done early

[thorn fjord]

innovator

[gilded oasis]

I say it will take 2 weeks, I release it after a week, changes actually took me 6 hours

easy

[thorn fjord]

my bars with my mounts arent showing -_-

[gilded oasis]

good ol bartender never broken

[gusty mirage]

bartender?

did I wake up in 2008?

[gilded oasis]

Yes

[gusty mirage]

neat

I get to redo my 20s

[gilded oasis]

lets gooo

[thorn fjord]

wym

[gusty mirage]

if its 2008

I get to re-do my 20s

[thorn fjord]

ohhhh

Me too

I'd avoid all the long term relationships

and just vibe

[gilded oasis]

old ass

[gusty mirage]

okay grandma

lets get you back inside

[gilded oasis]

yeah but imagine all the things you learned from those relationshits

[spice spire]

I had a good relationship in my 20s plenty of issues. But wouldn’t call it shit

Did learn

So ig ur right

I guess wisdom does come with age

[gilded oasis]

I wouldn't be with my current bf if not for my last 2 relationships so theres that

[gusty mirage]

@thorn fjord here feel better

[gilded oasis]

and I learned to not be a door mat during the last 8 year one so

[thorn fjord]

Thats what happens when you dont play the game

[spice spire]

R u me

[thorn fjord]

I got mythic shoulders

[gilded oasis]

mayhaps

[spice spire]

You got a Nicholas last week

[gusty mirage]

you realize I've gotten 2 useful vaults

the entire tier right

[spice spire]

Doubt I’m too much of a shitter for that

[gilded oasis]

Nicholas hates me never shows up in my vault

[spice spire]

Yeah and I’ve gotten 0 get woke bozo

[thorn fjord]

Think of all i missed out on too 😛

[thorn fjord]

Still got a 489 nick tho

[runic hinge]

Not sure what I’d do differently if I could do my 20’s over

Maybe just try to enjoy it more

[gilded oasis]

invest in some better stocks

[spice spire]

Real

White answer but real

I’d Diamond hands HCA

And not sell at 160

[gilded oasis]

buy gme 2 days before I bought gme

[runic hinge]

I had zero dollars then so I don’t think I would be investing

[exotic hearth]

Whats the ! command for BiS stuff?

[gusty mirage]

there isn't one

[gilded oasis]

you have at least 5 dollards

[shy pecan]

Dollards

[gilded oasis]

please dont say BIS you will summon Whispyr

[runic hinge]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[gilded oasis]

@spice spire can we make !bis the same as !whispyr

who has that power

[shy pecan]

Or link the video 😐

[spice spire]

Shadowblade +

[ember mural]

!bis

[gilded oasis]

gif is funnier

[shy pecan]

Yeah yeah blah blah

[gilded oasis]

@gusty mirage best idea ive had all day

it's early, I might have more

[shy pecan]

[gilded oasis]

like a !commands command. man im on a roll

[gusty mirage]

absolutely not

[gilded oasis]

[dark token]

i like to collect these for fun

anyone else?

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/fairly-odd-parents-gif-11174349

[burnt prism]

holy shit, two 489 nick of times now

[gilded oasis]

looking forward to mine on the last week of the tier

[dark token]

...

[green apex]

prayers ANSWERED

Gonna take me from green logs to blue

[slim pebble]

Yall are getting green logs

[burnt prism]

With avoidance 😮

[runic hinge]

Only when I live the whole fight

[slim pebble]

My kitten likes to sabotage my logs

[green apex]

Lucky if I get to raid at all I work 50 hours a day and my kid is in 4 sport events a night

[slim pebble]

Those are rookie numbers. I work 69 hours per day and have 5 sports event at night

[green apex]

No kid tho? I used to work 420 hours a week

[slim pebble]

I have 3 kiddos so like

[green apex]

dam blesss. You deserve a time knife

[runic hinge]

I onyl get to raid when it’s a full moon on a Wednesday and just for a half hour

[gilded oasis]

yeah but you have no kids so try again

[runic hinge]

When the moon is at its fullest

Okay fine

[gilded oasis]

You can borrow one of my 8 kids

[runic hinge]

I have a bird

That’s like two kids because he purposely poops on the floor

[green apex]

Talks back too I bet

[runic hinge]

Lmao yes

[slim pebble]

He’s innocent

[runic hinge]

Take his food bowl to feed him and I get a “move it”

[gilded oasis]

mans hungy

[runic hinge]

Usually yeah

[spice spire]

[runic hinge]

Nice pips

[gaunt sigil]

It replaces my Speed Dreamcarver though

RiP speed

[dark token]

go speed enchant on boots if u like speed

u only lose 20k hp max

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[slim pebble]

The flavor text on Nick of Time might be my favorite

[brazen zodiac]

🥺

[sonic zinc]

hmmmm

[lunar prawn]

So I was reading rotation guide, completely new to rogue, so to burst, i need to set up deathmark first then kingsbane and shadow dance ?

[shy pecan]

DM > Shiv > SD > KB

[lunar prawn]

having like a hard time understanding the mechs

and then always keep garrote and rupture up ?

then just spam mutlilate and envenom

?

[royal lantern]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[gilded oasis]

if you have 4 piece you want to spam it in such a way you can chain as many envenoms together at a time without dropping the buff

I think it is in

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[lunar prawn]

Oh I'm not even there yet, don't have a tier set just hit 70 today, im just trying to get the basics down

[gilded oasis]

Okay then what you said above is fine. You can start practicing the chaining even without 4peice just so you are used to it/not learning one way then relearning again later

[gaunt sigil]

Did something change with rogue Simming? My Assa is simming much lower this week than last week I had wrong build on, oopsies.

[lunar prawn]

this class is rough lol

[thorn fjord]

Nah it’s a vibe

We’re the red headed step child

[gaunt sigil]

The rework has made assa such a playable spec

Its so enjoyable

[keen spruce]

we're still very good

just befriend a priest

[quiet oar]

Thanks to daddy blizz over nerfing sin

[gusty mirage]

I read this as boyfriend a priest

[quiet oar]

I mean

Thsts how this works

[gusty mirage]

[keen spruce]

that works too

[oak sky]

Ill boyfriend you

[quiet oar]

Like 2 out of 3 priests in our guild

[gusty mirage]

this comment aged very poorly

btw

@final star

[quiet oar]

Were in a relation Ship with a dps

[final star]

so true

I only speak in fact

[gusty mirage]

nothing more helpful than "hey shmeeps I read this as boyfriend a priest"

[final star]

someone finds it helpful

I don't

but someone surely

[gusty mirage]

let's put that to the test

@keen spruce was my comment helpful

[keen spruce]

@earnest remnant congrats orange man

[keen spruce]

huh wat?

what comment

[gusty mirage]

my boyfriend the priest comment

[keen spruce]

yes very helpful

'and cute

[gusty mirage]

damn

foiled again

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-meddling-kids-gotten-gif-18548420

[arctic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/shaggy-scooby-doo-running-fast-drive-gotta-go-gif-14864926