assassination

[dark token]

Ye

It's playable next week

Before it kinda wasnt

[runic hinge]

Just did tindral (H) and forgot caustic

[runic hinge]

AOTC done now tho

[violet sonnet]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[keen spruce]

Does anyone know if there's specific tindral silliness with CDs?

it looks like it's just fast opener on pull so you get a full 2nd KB before he flies away

and the rest is kinda just slam on CD

[drifting cloud]

yeah its just on cd

the 6+ min one you usually send after you land + soak, or you could even delay for next set of roots

[naive valve]

what slots do the two silken linings go in?

do neck and bracers work?

[gusty mirage]

they do

[naive valve]

lit

[runic hinge]

We killed it in 7 pulls

This guild is good tbh but we just raid 1 night a week and most dont wanna touch mythic

[keen spruce]

this set here?

just short delay?

[drifting cloud]

yeah its pretty natural dont have to even think about it

2nd supernova is like 4:20~ and then youre in the air at 6:15

or well atleast most rogues are assigned to that set id assume

[keen spruce]

we'll see next week

who knows

maybe i can get away with just staying down

probably not tho

[drifting cloud]

doubt it, assa pretty good choice to go up

[dark token]

6:30 is hardest part of fight and 2 mins line up

[narrow eagle]

on aoe during shadow dance should i spread Rupture and garrote with [Indiscriminate Carnage] ? or just Garrote

[violet sonnet]

what are people hitting on the raid dummy on their opening burst

bc i feel my damage explodes when i overapply my bleeds when i go into KB

like it goes down quick

[sacred wedge]

i follow wowhead opener like gospel

[keen spruce]

it's often better to just use shadowdance iwth kingsbane with your normal ST rotation

and let spatter do the heavy lifting

but you can spend a global or two getting a garrote and rupture refreshed

which will cleave onto some other targets

[bright turret]

they sneaking in a sub nerf last minute tomorrow or

[keen spruce]

i think they probabl hit them on the .5 patch

idk

[shy pecan]

Is it on Tuesday?

10.2.5?

[balmy condor]

When you what

[runic hinge]

I keep asking if anyone thinks there will be tuning before Tuesday and most people think there will be

[runic hinge]

Yes

[keen spruce]

o i thought it was next week

not this coming tuesday

that's kinda poggies

[runic hinge]

New stuff to do! Wooo

[fallen raven]

monday is a public holiday in america isn't it, might not have time to do tuning if they haven't already announced it

[runic hinge]

I don’t think tuning is a one day thing

I would assume they aren’t deciding the day before

Like they probably aren’t putting in all the new stuff for the patch and are like oh shit probably gotta change some numbers for abilities. I would guess the patch is ready to go and the tuning can just be announced before it goes live

[keen spruce]

ye is patch drop is tuesday

you probably see class / dungeon tuning passes

the week after

maybe 2 weeks

[runic hinge]

They announce Monday night tuning 🤞

[keen spruce]

why are you hoping for tuning

all they do is nerf rogue

[runic hinge]

Oh I want my alts to get buffed. Rogue is about done

[royal lantern]

good

i dont want assa buffs

i want sub/outlaw nerfs

let the world burn

[runic hinge]

This man sticks to his hating guns

[royal lantern]

[blazing jewel]

Nerf u

[keen spruce]

[crisp pine]

Hope they're gonna buff SnD

I fuckin love slicin and dicing

[shy pecan]

Same

[runic hinge]

Same

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/slicing-people-are-awesome-fruit-ninja-tricks-sword-tricks-gif-16918318

https://tenor.com/view/slicing-the-onion-brian-lagerstrom-cutting-the-onion-dicing-the-onion-gif-5843785316484375309

[crisp pine]

That's so me

[pseudo hamlet]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[thin ingot]

what set should i vote for?

[vestal wren]

the one you think sounds the most fun

[thin ingot]

theres better ways to make a mirepoix, starting with a rondelle then cutting into it makes them look better if youre going to show them on the plate

[vestal wren]

all of them will be adjusted in power level, so w/e you pick is great

the season 2 set is more thematical for the spec fantasy

the season 3 set does make Kingsbane do more damage

[thin ingot]

i mean the reason i hated ass was the whole exsang changes we got throughout the expansion

[vestal wren]

season 1 set is for almost all classes boring, so i don't think its something to consider

[thin ingot]

i do like KB, i loved legion ass rogue

[royal lantern]

@crisp pine huh

wait

who did it ping

discord

what are you doing

[vestal wren]

who did you want to ping

[royal lantern]

nobody

[vestal wren]

to explain my trai of thoughts if you disagree

assassination always had a high focus on poison and bleed damage

[royal lantern]

oh, it pinged slugcat boi

[vestal wren]

thats exaclty what the season 2 tier set does, make your bleeds do more damage

[thin ingot]

which one would you say plays more as it was in legion? season 3?

[vestal wren]

KB was not as dominant of a damage source in legion

[royal lantern]

i mean, legion assa was praying for PB procs

[vestal wren]

the huge buff to KB and more focus to make it a hard hitter is something new

and tbh its something most people like

the majority rn vote for season 3, but this applies to all 3 specs

[thin ingot]

oh wait

so the vote

is indepent of specs?

you vote for the entire class?

[vestal wren]

there are 2 votes

#1 the one for the appearence

its independent of spec

[thin ingot]

oh shit that changes everything

[vestal wren]

#2 the one for the tier set bonus, spec dependent

[thin ingot]

ohh so the bonus is spec dependant, thats nice

cause im starting a new account and rogue has always been my favorite class to play but some classes got some spicy tier sets too

[vestal wren]

🟢 - transmog
🟠 - set bonus

(orange depends on region, the marked row is na, if you are eu its the last one)

the vote is also possibly slightly biased by tuning

rogue was rly well tuned in s3, so most will have the best memory of the current tier set

(tho i think neither of the s3 sets is bad design wise, whats not the case with s2 or s1)

[thin ingot]

S1 was pretty good iirc, only thing i hated was playing around exsang

[limber lion]

That wasn't tied to the set effect whatsoever

The set was entirely passive

Also Exsang is long gone so it's not even a thing to consider

[thin ingot]

yeah i just hated exsang and hence i played so little assa that tier

[vestal wren]

S1 was focused on more boring/passive designs.
Because we had the talent tree reworks, so blizz made the decision to have them highlighted more.

[pseudo hamlet]

Do DM with bonus bleeds count towards Sudden Demise? Along with the Mutilate bleed effect from the talent(though I guess no one is taking it)?

[crisp pine]

@royal lantern I thought I was about to get flamed when I saw the ping here

[quiet oar]

Its a reasonable concern

[spice spire]

You still might

[limber lion]

yes

[arctic socket]

Every time I get pinged I wonder what type of comment @spice spire is making

[spice spire]

I never ping you ?

[arctic socket]

Usually it’s dumb stuff

You do

You have before

[spice spire]

[keen spruce]

@arctic socket

[quiet oar]

@arctic socket

[spice spire]

?

[arctic socket]

Good morning guys

@keen spruce

@quiet oar

[keen spruce]

gm

[spice spire]

Hate you Mfs. Have a good day though, this is a threat

[keen spruce]

can you be a doll

and give quake

er george

give george

a piece of cheese

and a belly rub

for me

[spice spire]

I did yesterday. Belly rub already today . But I can’t overgive him cheese

[keen spruce]

tru

okay fair enough ty

[spice spire]

Yw I’ll give him cheese later and video it for you

[keen spruce]

[arctic socket]

I wanna see that too

[spice spire]

Sux

I’m probably just going to send in pet thread

[keen spruce]

I hope i get this job

i interviewed for on friday

so i can buy a house

and a duck

then i can post in pet channel too

[spice spire]

I hope you get the job too.
For no other reason than your happiness

[keen spruce]

I almost fked up the interview

cuz it's a contract gig with a governemnt agency

and I didn't realize it was like full on security checkpoint when you go to the campus

so i got there like 10m before the interview thinking that's plenty

and i was there for like 25 minutes. and almost got banned for 24 hours cuz i had a camping knife in my trunk with my fishing gear

[spice spire]

Oh

[keen spruce]

my recruiter just like

didn't feel like it was important

to mention any of that

i thought it was just an office

but the hiring manager was very chill

didn't seem to be bothered about it at all

we'll see

[spice spire]

Hope it’s good buddy

[keen spruce]

idc if it's good i just want a paycheck and something to do during the week

at this point

but good would be good

ty amigo

[arctic socket]

Shmeeps good luck chief

Remember not to bring your camping knife, but that’s weird they searched your trunk

Haven’t went to any jobs where my vehicle got searched

[keen spruce]

it's a federal agency and a power company

so like the campus is like offices

but also access to the grid

it was like. pop the hood, open the trunk, open the gas flap, open the glovebox and center console, open all the doors. step out of the car and stand 10 yards away

and i open the trunk and see all of my shit in there

and was like

[arctic socket]

[royal lantern]

"the fishing Equipment is to fish up some bitches"

[keen spruce]

dude i was moving like 3 weeks ago

I was lucky that there weren't like

6 firearms in my trunk

[arctic socket]

He was letting quake borrow it for the weekend

Forgot to take it out of his trunk

[royal lantern]

why do you have a firearm

and why 6

[keen spruce]

i have many firearms

cuz they're fun

bang bang

loud noises

[arctic socket]

Pew pew pew

[keen spruce]

fruit explode

[spice surge]

Loud is funny

[royal lantern]

i prefer my arms not beeing on fire

[keen spruce]

i kinda want to find a 3-gun course

i think there's some places kinda near by

but that looks like a super fun sport

and easier to find places than like

1000yd ranges

for long shooty

[arctic socket]

It’s very fun, good luck affording the ammo though

[keen spruce]

ammo very spensive

ever since obama got elected

[arctic socket]

I believe it’s tripped in price

[keen spruce]

democrat gets elected: they're gonna take our guns any day now, buy all of the ammo. ammo price go up

[arctic socket]

Buy all the ammo then sell it for double what you spent

Profit

[keen spruce]

repub gets elected: this is our only chance to stock up before the dems come back, buy all of the ammo. ammo prices go up

[arctic socket]

[keen spruce]

[arctic socket]

New cat has finally started to come out from under my bed

[keen spruce]

[arctic socket]

Can finally give it pets

The first cat gave no fucks this one was kinda scared

[keen spruce]

i haven't had a pet since like 2011

when i was in college

when i had my rats

i think a pet would make me more responsible hto

[near osprey]

Whats the safest stat combo for crafted items? I know with 'sin all the stats are pretty close but it's hard to sim every combination.

[keen spruce]

they're close enough that it really doesn't matter

like very likely to be <500dps difference between all combinations

any advice will be pretty arbitrary

cuz it depends on your current gear and stats to actually know the "best"

but like

if you have some random secondary that lagging way behind the othe rones

other ones*

maybe throw that one on there

if you have a branch

skip mastery maybe

it doesn't matter

[near osprey]

got it

[keen spruce]

i switched all of mine to crit vers so i can use them for outlaw

had basically no impact on assas dps

[near osprey]

I think I have a 2 part problem because my haste is low and I have branch. I recently switched my gear to mast/vers because its good for sub and I wanted to try it out, but 'sin sims a few thousand dps worse now, and I think I prefer the style

So now I have way too much mastery and probably too much vers, so I'm looking to probably throw haste on the gear I guess

Haste/crit just feels kinda wrong though, so I guess haste mast?

[keen spruce]

i mean i'd setup your embelishments to fill in important stats for the other specs

you can swap like

enchants and gems on your assas gear

to even out stuff

[near osprey]

Thanks!

[sacred wedge]

Outlaw is too fast for my puny brain. Might fuck around with sub tho

[keen spruce]

I am also bad at outlaw

[sacred wedge]

overall still looking good

outlaw op

[near osprey]

I feel like sub is a little harder than outlaw, but that might just be because I've played a lot of outlaw this season and only a little sub

[keen spruce]

outlaw is pretty easy, just very punishing

[sacred wedge]

thats how i would describe assa in aoe pulls

[limber lion]

it's all the same

[keen spruce]

but that might just be a little dunning kruger

[limber lion]

it's all easy

[near osprey]

k

[keen spruce]

ye outlaw overall pretty op

like this one circled was a 0 parse

for key level

[sacred wedge]

im new at rogue, so its all kinda hard coming from arms and fury

dps warrior is pretty easy tho

specially fury

[keen spruce]

I'd say that all 3 specs of rogue this season

became a lot more

specific

with how their rotations function

[royal lantern]

thats how you can describe most wow specs

[near osprey]

There are classes that generally speaking when the pop cooldowns they kinda keep doing what they're doing and the cooldowns just make what they're doing a little better, then there are classes where the cooldowns alter how you are playing and you change what you do to maintain a strong burst window, and I think Rogue kinda went from the former to the latter

[keen spruce]

[near osprey]

Although maybe not Sin, because you kinda just keep doing your thing in general

[royal lantern]

i mean

all your dmg is kingsbane windows

[near osprey]

yeah, but I kinda look at it as.. you just press kingsbane when you press shadow dance, they're baiscally one button and the only real difference after you press it is you stop pooling and just press your buttons a little faster

but you're right, there is a specific window but maybe it just doesn't feel like it. atleast for me

[grizzled sonnet]

Anyone playing sin in mythic amirdrassil ? Need some more vers than usual?

[pure moth]

Follow the sims. If its telling you to get more vers then your profile wants more.

[grizzled sonnet]

Alright, will check it out. Ty.

[harsh violet]

I try simming but im a pleb and dont understand it, am i bad for just zugging constantly outside of kingsbane? Feels a bit awkward just autoing until im above 50% energy

[royal lantern]

secondarys are almost 100% equal now for assa

so ye, its normal, sims want to Equalize stuff a bit out cus its the best gain instead of just going 1stat

[sacred wedge]

sims use the optimal rotation, sims are not zugging outside of kingsbane

[sacred wedge]

you're not pooling for 50% energy, you're pooling to chain envenom clipping

[whole mason]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[harsh violet]

So even outside of kingsbane? Slow to max energy, go envenom crazy then rinse repeat? But prio on kingsbane?

[sacred wedge]

its inverse, someone better than me correct me if im wrong, but what im doing is:
on kingsbane you zug (while mantaining 100% shiv uptime), out of kingsbane you pool

[royal lantern]

yes

thats the tl:dr

[harsh violet]

Okay thats definitely where im going super wrong, hitting those grey logs and bringing my guilds progression down

Thanks guys

[sacred wedge]

try to make sure you apply improved garrote on kingsbane, its something im messing up.
its easier to zug on kingsbane window because you'll want to save 1 thistle tea charge for its last 6 seconds, so you wont run out of energy

[harsh violet]

Thats one thing i have a good habit of, i always shadow dance kingsbane and garrote but i manage thistle teas quite poorly

[sacred wedge]

yeah im pressing garrote too much so my garrote is on cd or too fresh when my shadowdance+kb is up

[nimble zinc]

hey @balmy condor - i'm watching your youtube videos, and had a question about envenom uptime. am I not just spamming mutilate and envenom as long as all my bleeds and poisons are up? Something about cooling / waiting to use envenom.

[harsh violet]

So id never let garrote drop, but sounds like its a better use of energy to let it drop for 5 seconds to add improved for kingsbane

[harsh violet]

Kinda what thrashies is helping me with now if you read their reply

[nimble zinc]

yeah i'm still trying to figure out how to maximize kingsbane window

[quiet oar]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[quiet oar]

I hope this answers it?

[nimble zinc]

yeah thanks that helps. Is there any WAs we can run to help track the timers of envenom/bleeds/poisons?

also does anyone ever run flying daggers in aoe? I feel like I wanna take it but none of the builds have it

[quiet oar]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[nimble zinc]

but i guess we'er less concerned about the dmg of fan of knives right? like we'd rather have caustic splatter /bleeds on all targets

[royal lantern]

FoK does 0 dmg

its about CP generation/aoe poisons with it

[nimble zinc]

Noted, thanks

and we don't spam crimson tempest in aoe anymore right? i remember spamming it in shadowlands

its basically like an aoe rupture now, we just maintain the uptime of the bleeds

[quiet oar]

Ye, CT has no initial hit anymore

[limber lion]

We have never spammed CT

But if you did it now, you would do significantly less damage than previously yes

[nimble zinc]

good to know ty

[nimble zinc]

do I need all of these WAs? or can I just pick one? it seems like each one is a group / pack of things?

[clever sapphire]

you dont need any of those

its just you can get them if you want

but ye, they all do the same

but different looks

so its a preference

[rotund oak]

any special tips for sin in council?

(we are progressing)

[gaunt sigil]

Play cleave build, pray your tanks make cleaving easy

[rotund oak]

ye dunno if there is any reason to not play IC/spatter

anyway thx for the input

[outer cairn]

The cleave gods have forsaken me

[gaunt sigil]

I mean that’s really it, there is nothing much you can do besides hope your tanks let you cleave.

Just pop things on CD and pray pretty much

[rotund oak]

u know what im gonna do my man

gonna mute discord

and dodge everything like a bss

[gaunt sigil]

Ok

[outer cairn]

True. The best is when they stand on the other boss so Urctos is basically slapping everything in front including the melee

[gaunt sigil]

Best of luck!

[storm forum]

You don't wanna dodge 50% of charges though

[rotund oak]

true

got ym WAs poping for soaks

dw

[gaunt sigil]

I hâte council fights, they are always just “random bullshit go” fights

[storm forum]

Mhm, good luck!

[rotund oak]

its cursed yup

thx alot fam

[gaunt sigil]

Just blast and pray for the best

[storm forum]

Yeah the council fight is probably my least favorite in the tier

[gaunt sigil]

^

[storm forum]

Ducks are funny but actually doing the fight is pretty ass

[gaunt sigil]

I’m currently on Tswift prog and it’s more fun than council

[arctic socket]

[quiet oar]

Everything is more fun than council

[arctic socket]

Council is fun if you make your guidies quack in discord

[weary badger]

is augury good for us at all

[woeful meteor]

no

[clever sapphire]

council is fun when you are benched for the boss and you enjoy a hot chocolate whilst watching how the boomie melts the boss

[arctic socket]

Lmao it be like thay

I got mythic pips and now I don’t wanna raid anymore

[latent copper]

should i use Blasde Fury with higher prio then Crackshot proc on 4+ targets? (as wenn if i Blasde Flurry still running?)

[hushed fable]

Possibly? Maybe? Who knows, Not outlaw thread 👀

[latent copper]

sry wrong chat

[thorn fjord]

You can

[cedar yew]

I can't see anything in pins or the FAQ. any weak auras or add-ons to help track cooldowns and help with uptimes? I'm still a beginner on assa

[quiet oar]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[quiet oar]

These are Weakauras

With CDs and Uptimes

[cedar yew]

AHH thank you ❤️

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/sprint-master-walk-duck-waddle-gif-16629770

omw to duck the mage in combust

[arctic socket]

This guild is wild

[spice spire]

I’ve heard worse

[arctic socket]

I think it’s time for a new guild

[spice spire]

Amen it’s definitely time for a new guild

I think my worst was “man I wish I knew you more so I could send you my hog” with sincerity

Was a wild statement

[thorn fjord]

Got any grapes?

[ember mural]

Meow

[spice spire]

Mm

[soft shale]

as long as no woofers were involved

[thorn fjord]

what do you call a half dog?

A Sub-Woofer

[past pebble]

any tricks or ways to make sure you proc sudden demise more.?

[spice spire]

I laughed

[arctic socket]

Just got asked for a nanogram of pussy

[spice spire]

Deal more dam

[past pebble]

seriously no meme

how do i get more overall sudden demise damage. im getting no value from it in my keys

[spice spire]

What classes are you running with

[past pebble]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Jnkxv8cqpTjNZPMw#fight=last

i had 1.99% sudden demise damage which feels criminally low

[spice spire]

Which

[past pebble]

nynja

[spice spire]

You literally have another sin rogue

[past pebble]

ok, what does that mean?

[spice spire]

His sudden Demi’s procs over yours

Because he’s 11 ilvl higher

[past pebble]

ah ok

[spice spire]

His will do more damage

You read the talent right?

I realize this comes across as aggressive but it’s not

It’s trouble shooting

[past pebble]

i didnt realize they dont stack

makes sense though

[pure moth]

And hopefully you have another trinket. Brand isnt ideal for dungeons

[past pebble]

all mmy sims say brand

[spice spire]

Brand in aoe kinda dog

Ngl

Dslice is a weird beast

[storm forum]

I fell asleep and had a dream about people eating microphones but the microphones had cakes or burgers inside and they were goooooood.

[pure moth]

If you can keep stacks i thought?

[past pebble]

i use whysprs aoe talents and sims say brand

[spice surge]

yes if you can keep stacks up the entire dungeon and pretty much never leave combat

The trinket is good

[storm forum]

Brand is fine if you never drop stacks

[spice surge]

If it resets its bad

[pure moth]

It just didn't do that much damage in your 15

[storm forum]

But most dungeons you will drop stacks

[spice surge]

And youll reset it pretty much every dungeon if you dont play around it

[shy pecan]

You’re a weird beast

Love you bye

[spice surge]

So just dont use it

[storm forum]

The mega dungeon, it's basically impossible to keep it up

[spice surge]

The difference between a fully stacked one and a nonstacked one is almost 16x the damage

Aka if it does 10 damage at 0 stacks it does 160 at max stacks, so if you ever lose stacks its really bad

[storm forum]

Atal is possible with a DK using MC and then kiting it to the last boss before re MCing it

[past pebble]

here is a 19 where demise damage is ver very low

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/g9RtQZja3fzyDhY8#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=4

no extra sin rouge

[shy pecan]

Is it actually low or is it everything else in your kit actually doing more damage?

Something to think about

[past pebble]

1/.4% of damage

1.4%**

seems very low for a capstone

im new to rouge so trying to learn it

[royal lantern]

the "execute" part of sudden demise is not why its taken

its the 10% bleed dmg

[crisp pine]

Try doing a +2
Sudden Demise is gonna pump

[royal lantern]

the "execute" is a neat goodie you get that makes you "waste" a bit less dot dmg that would otherwhise go into nothing cus the enemy is dead

but like

its the 10% bleed

[past pebble]

makes sense

TY!

[runic hinge]

I’m a little late to the party but if your sudden demise is doing a ton of damage you’re probably refreshing your bleeds when the mobs are low and wasting them.

[past pebble]

TY

[past pebble]

I’m still doing very low damage. So trying to understand what I’m missing in terms of rotation etc

[runic hinge]

If your bleeds are expiring as the mobs are dying that’s very efficient

[past pebble]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/g9RtQZja3fzyDhY8#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=4

[shy pecan]

It’s because you’re a 466 sin rogue trying to do damage with a DH and monk that are 10+ ilvls more than you

[crisp pine]

how many Combo points do you need dude

[shy pecan]

And yeah, there’s some mechanical issues as well

[woeful meteor]

first Pull you dont have spatter on your DM/KB Target, which were your main dmg comes from

[past pebble]

The max amount?

[crisp pine]

Uh

[runic hinge]

You finish at 4 or more

[crisp pine]

Yea

[past pebble]

This was a mistake no idea why I didn’t spend them.

[gilded oasis]

you were saving them for the next dungeon

[spice spire]

Me fr

[gilded oasis]

same. Always save my DM for the next dungeon

sometimes lust too

[shy pecan]

We have lust?

[gilded oasis]

bang the bongos

[spice spire]

I lust for whispyr every day

[gilded oasis]

[shy pecan]

[runic hinge]

[shy pecan]

[spice spire]

Jealousy is a disease get well soon homies xoxo

[ember mural]

[spice spire]

You do it too bozo

[shy pecan]

[earnest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/ninomae-inanis-takodachi-tako-no-horni-horni-gif-26104396

[spice spire]

?

[shy pecan]

I love the “go touch some grass” part on the bottle lol

[gilded oasis]

[ember mural]

[blazing jewel]

[spice spire]

What I’m saying

Pot kettle type shit

[earnest remnant]

you horny posting

[blazing jewel]

Birds of a feather flock together you feel me

[earnest remnant]

i dont horny post

only when oxi bricks me up

[blazing jewel]

So you do horny post

[spice spire]

“I don’t horny post except when I horny post.”

[shy pecan]

[earnest remnant]

he's my wife, im allowed

your arent married, you just wouldnt get it

[shy pecan]

[blazing jewel]

Never wifed up

[storm forum]

Never going to get those tax benefits

[fallow canopy]

Sin nerfs were the best thing to happen to this channel

[normal mist]

Because a lot of new ppl left?

Or the fotm? XD

[fallow canopy]

idk as a lurker I find the convos very funny

before it was !pooling like 100 times a day

[spice spire]

Im him

[blazing jewel]

[thorn fjord]

Women amirite?

[normal mist]

That's honestly true. I talk in a lot of channels so when I saw the !pooling and other stuff be spammed, I just go to the transmog Channel

[spice spire]

It’s all about channel speed. Would I fuck around when there’s 600 people asking for help? Nah

Slow times are fine

[gilded oasis]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[fallow canopy]

didn't join the discord before SL but I feel like it has always been like this, chill, except for this one patch

[gilded oasis]

i've never joined this discord

idk how I got here

[normal mist]

You just poofed into existence

[fallow canopy]

tbf sub despite being quite strong its chill most of the time, don't know about outlaw since I've never played the spec

so I never read it

[gilded oasis]

you aren't missing anything

[spice spire]

Sin’s been goofy for a while

Maybe I’m the problem

[shy pecan]

Same

[gilded oasis]

we are all the problem

and the solution

[spice spire]

[shy pecan]

[gilded oasis]

I was supposed to do yard work but its been raining and its cold so I guess it will have to wait another 8 months

darn

[spice spire]

Ur so real for that

[shy pecan]

Yeah raiding and being cold does that

[gilded oasis]

cant get raiding off the mind ya know

[shy pecan]

Obvobv

Can fix that. Just uninstall 🙂

[gilded oasis]

Always rather be raiding

[shy grove]

ages ago someone mentioned the reasoning why we are a good PI target, even though "bloodmallet says" and i forgot why? is there a reason to give it to an ASS rogue over bm? or are they just better targets

[gilded oasis]

I wish I'd get it over our BM

my PI rerolled DH for a reason that I'm pretty sure doesn't exist now with tswift nerfs

[blazing jewel]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[gilded oasis]

yeah summon whispyr to answer the question

[spice spire]

BM is better target now post nerf

But we are good because it helps ramp our KB

And kb is massive dam

That’s why

[shy grove]

thanks, also

[storm forum]

BM and Sass are close enough that it's really a whoever the better player is during their CDs should be getting it.

[runic hinge]

I get pi and I put on atrophic mid pull on volocross this week

[gilded oasis]

this is the way

[thorn fjord]

Its def Oxi's fault

[spice spire]

Why would it be my goats fault?

[thorn fjord]

gotta blame somebody

[blazing jewel]

Killed echo of nelth with no atro on by accident

Mandatory raid buff btw

[thorn fjord]

My PI has been on vacation so i perma play sub/OL now

Sin was fun but we're being optimal now 😛

[spice spire]

The true goat move is foking p2 first move with crippling

[runic hinge]

I tried sub one week and the blue parses made me leave

[thorn fjord]

ive become the person we all hate... an OL enjoyer

[gilded oasis]

smh

[spice spire]

Banned

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/sadcat-gif-25701972

[shy grove]

OL is fun but it feels like carpal tunnel simulator

im tired of that spec having 9000apm

ASS at least feels like a rhythm

[thorn fjord]

its not that bad

Just make sure to set spell que time to 200-300

[royal lantern]

for me its like

outlaw fast ye sure

but in DF they went REALLY way to far with it

[thorn fjord]

DF prepatch was so sick

take me back

best OL itteration every

tbh I think sub is almost as fast as OL when you start getting procs

Sub feels pretty fast

[royal lantern]

?

it isnt lol

sub is like assa

cus you have downtime

[thorn fjord]

Doesnt feel like anywhere near as much downtime

[royal lantern]

sub has faster windows during dance, and bettwe that its REALLY slow

[spice surge]

Sub has like 2-3 seconds of downtime, then you press a button or two, then another 2-3 seconds

[royal lantern]

^

[spice surge]

Whereas assa waits 6 seconds in a row

[royal lantern]

ye

like, you could do the same as assa

but you dont cus its actually bad for your dmg

sub just has no reason to pool energy

[thorn fjord]

I feel fast af playing sub on smold especially during CD windows

[spice surge]

And sub has a lot of off gcd buttons that you need to press very quickly during your cd windows

[royal lantern]

and now play the spec outside of the dmg amp phases

[spice surge]

But outside of cds sub is very very slow too

[royal lantern]

you know, where you stand there like

backstab

wait 3 seconds

backstab

wait 2 seconds

evisc

backstab

wait 2 seconds

backstab

it slows down really hard outside of cds

[thorn fjord]

I constantly get the CP procs

i must be lucky

RNG lord

[royal lantern]

@keen spruce alt confirmed

[thorn fjord]

i wanna gear my mage alt for s4

But i prob wont

[thin portal]

even tho im still not getting the rotation im doing more dmg than tank so we good.

gg

[spice spire]

🫡

[thin portal]

(m+)

im gonna try single target build with splatter

next

[runic hinge]

I might play spriest for s4

[thorn fjord]

Why would you want to do that

[lean portal]

mage is fun and broken

good alt choice

[shy pecan]

Boomie

[keen spruce]

the only approved rogue alts

are tanks (except vdh)

surv hunter

and more rogues

maybe feral

[thorn fjord]

thats all false

Holy

I did UHDK S1 and that was fun

[quiet oar]

[quiet oar]

?????

Why do you ahte me

[keen spruce]

oh and afflicition warlock

assas from far away

:

[runic hinge]

This could also be my alt for s4

[runic hinge]

Tbh I find it super fun and I love the aesthetic

[real pike]

Hey guys on mythic Nyume should I hold DM for the add instead of using it on open? (I'm in the first group)

[royal lantern]

if i play a alt its hunter

cus pets are cool

but i never play a alt anyway

[real pike]

or I guess the answer is depends how good we are at killing the add

[quiet oar]

Nah

Use it on cooldown/delay it a bit for kb

I think its like 15 seconds Till kb is ready

[balmy condor]

yeh

it's always dm boss

then the off-minute kingsbanes on ad

[real pike]

cool thank you

[quiet oar]

Baby kb is enough for add

[cerulean nest]

how huge is it being dwarf for fyrak?

seen everyone mention it but idk how realistic it is for people swapping

[bright turret]

it helps the healers a little bit, but I feel like the value is overstated

people not being dwarf isn't what will wall you in fyrakk prog

[quiet oar]

I just hope they nerf dwarf to the fucking grund

[dark token]

its nice especially at start when healers are bad

[cedar yew]

Is there any Assa builds that DONT use kingsbane?

[arctic venture]

Guys Bzzy or Hissing?

buzzy

[subtle tundra]

no, thats the bread and butter of assa

[spice spire]

Sim it lol

[cedar yew]

Fack.... I just can't get the hang of it

Just can't make sense of it 😅

[shy grove]

right after power infusion 🙄 it wont happen

[shy grove]

you want to proc as many psn damage things in a short window as you can
you want shiv to be running for the entirety of it
you want a tea mastery buff for the last 6s at least

also there's a good wa for the timing of abilities on it

[cedar yew]

It's shiv BEFORE kings/shadow isn't it?

[shy grove]

one before 1 during usually

[cedar yew]

Then 2nd half way through?

[spice spire]

Yeah and right as that one ends

Yeah

[shy grove]

and then builders + envenom spam

[spice spire]

Weak auras can help with timings

[cedar yew]

Right. Then a Tea at 6 seconds and vanish at 3? Is that right?

[shy grove]

you usually want a big envenom before it so that your first one in it procs tier'

[icy ice]

and vanish in last 3 sec

[spice spire]

Yep

[shy pecan]

Do not hit it before 6 or 3 seconds, else you’ll miss the last tick

[spice spire]

Yep

[shy pecan]

Like 6.1 or 3.1 is bad

[cedar yew]

Right I'll have to practice the shit out of this 😂

[spice spire]

And then I’ll have to yell at you

[icy ice]

make sure u vanish in 3 or less els its big dps lost

[vast swan]

Aside from Afenar's? I'm having a bitch of a time keeping track of everything and I'm doing completely shit damage because I get out of whack and then get frustrated and then... doom spiral

[spice spire]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[cedar yew]

Right cheers ❤️ I'll try find a WA to help my ass

[spice spire]

LE specifically has it

I know

[vast swan]

Pretty soon I'm going to resort to pretty pretty pictures

[spice spire]

There’s another one floating around

Yeah hers has a timeline that helps you press it timely

[cedar yew]

That one?

[icy ice]

just make kingsbane WA and try to use ur cds .

[spice spire]

Yeah that one

[icy ice]

shiv then shadowdance KB

do shive on 9 sec left of KB

tea in 6

[spice spire]

And if you have questions ping her! @slate crown (I’m doing it as a meme, but she’s legitimately incredibly helpful with any questions you may have!)

[icy ice]

vanish in 3

[spice spire]

[shy pecan]

Shiv is only 8 seconds, so you'll miss

the last tick

[cedar yew]

Perfect Ty all! I'll get on the dummy's

[icy ice]

yeah sry 8

[spice spire]

Gl homie

[icy ice]

miss type:P

but if ur new just play outlwa ,, assa is last in dps even worst than SP atm

u do 1000 rotation opener and evreyone beat u in dps

😛

[vast swan]

I've legit never played outlaw and I rolled my rogue in BC

[cedar yew]

I have mained outlaw this patch, brand new to rogue, wanting to learn assa for raid and certain keys

[vast swan]

Doesn't mean I've ever been good, just why suck at a new thing when I can suck slightly less with a familiar one

[icy ice]

well assa is bad in all keys 😛 just ply ur main xD dont waste ur time

[cedar yew]

Outlaw.... One wrong press of BTE..... GOOOOOD BYEEEE DPS 😂

[spice spire]

Sin is really fine in almost all keys

Very confused here

[icy ice]

outlaw beats assa in every single keys

[vast swan]

Just because outlaw may be better doesn't mean sin is *bad

[icy ice]

ur saying assa doing same dps as outlaw?

yeah its bad its last only marksman is doing less atm

[woeful meteor]

[spice spire]

I mean that’s just outright false

But go off big dog

[fluid nebula]

hey guys is the 4 pice tier set for assa worth it? How can I track the damage I am doing in arenas with the 4 piece?

[balmy condor]

sounds like a question for #pvp but the damage from it is called envenomous explosion

so

idk

[runic hinge]

why does battle.net hate my pc rn

[balmy condor]

just look at that I guess?

[tall jay]

@balmy condor you guys progging tonight

[balmy condor]

no

tindral nerfs tomorrow

no point

[tall jay]

Ah ok. Was looking for some good rogue streams tonight lol

[icy ice]

sandglasss is best passive trinket atm for mytic+?

[dull cloak]

I think it's pip

[icy ice]

i tried pip but sand feels better

[shy grove]

the extra damage helps tick up kingsbane if i remember someone explaining it to me correctly?

[icy ice]

and also i give up playing with branch ...lol most annoying thing in word

[balmy condor]

it really aint that bad

you just run a figure 7 and the third one hits you for free

complete muscle memory 95% of the time

[icy ice]

yeah i played with ashe for like 2 month lol

[strange python]

Whats kind of opener are people doing on Tindral mythic ?

[icy ice]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VrwDdzTjn7KyFafN#fight=29&type=casts&source=15

[viscid spear]

Season 3, huh

[icy ice]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VrwDdzTjn7KyFafN#fight=29&type=casts&source=15&view=timeline check this

[strange python]

So you DM after first Fire beam but thats on the move. I'm using Branch so that doesn't really work well for me to do DM on the move x)

[balmy condor]

then accelerate it

gar rup mut snd dm

[strange python]

Guess that could work. Tried a few things tonight while just checking WAs. Guess it'll get better when more comfortable with the boss ect.

[arctic hare]

Guess we're stuck with the S3 tier set, hmm.

[earnest remnant]

as god intended

[thorn fjord]

I know this season has been much easier than the past but hey I just got 3k

Happy about that considering I hate keys lol

[split grail]

So I'm what some people might refer to as "stupid" but if s4 will be using the s3 set bonus that means our rotation should stay the same, correct?

[spice spire]

Delete this nephew

[earnest remnant]

nah

you just got no taste, bud

[jaunty warren]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[flint tusk]

Did NA think the tmog vote was for the tier bonus or something. Smh

[lament bolt]

Looking at the actual Blizzard forum post, it looks like S2 appearance won on US forums

[keen spruce]

wait on tindral

if you do a non-accelerated opener

your 2nd KB

kind of overlaps with him flappin away

do those final ticks still hit him

or no

it looks like they do from yellow's log

[woeful meteor]

he takes full dmg while flying

[keen spruce]

or is there another reason why you accelerate the opener

for root line ups?

or orbies?

[woeful meteor]

you do accelerated to have it back for shield

[keen spruce]

o i c

the shield check didn't look that demonic on the few pulls i watched but i also didn't really follow that much prog

from other guilds

[woeful meteor]

shield is pretty free especially once you start lusting it for overall dmg

[worn badger]

i put a curse on any one that voted for s3 with its weird bugged chest gem, you will never get any bis in season 4

[lament bolt]

Wowhead messed up the appearance votes for rogues. S2 won according to the voting totals on the Blizzard forums

[worn badger]

thank science

[thorn fjord]

The shredder look was pretty cool ngl

[lament bolt]

Yeah. I voted S1 because I already have the complete look across all four raid difficulties. Hopefully they recolor the set for S4

[thorn fjord]

Couldn’t make me run lfr for mog

Not ever

[worn badger]

its the best mecha gnome set ever

[lament bolt]

I just bought up time rift and dreamsurge gear and converted it to tier, then upgraded it if I needed the normal look

[thorn fjord]

Ah smart

[worn badger]

did they fix it ? i did it when s3 started but all i got was the lfr color. im only missing one mythic piece for the set

[thorn fjord]

I’m missing belt and wrists or boots

Don’t remember

[lament bolt]

I'm not sure how it all works now. I did all that in S2. Used rifts and dreamsurges for LFR/normal, then got a full heroic tier and upgraded those into the mythic ilevels to unlock those appearances.

The latter can't really be done anymore since it's a new season

[worn badger]

yeah they broke it in s3, still havnt fixed it. you only get the lfr color =/

[arctic tusk]

assuming this is one hte better rings for

sin rogue

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[arctic tusk]

🕵️

[spice spire]

Yes man

[old halo]

been great for me so far

[balmy condor]

man

gearing in wow kinda got me down

y'all talking about rings and shit like it isn't just the same meaningless stats over and over and over and over

I don't even remember what rings I have equipped

why do I give a fuck

[gusty mirage]

I have the crafted rings

Cause they came with sockets

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575167

[shy pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575167

[arctic tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575167

[thorn fjord]

My brain

[arctic tusk]

is BSL good in m+ ?

[balmy condor]

yep

[bronze pike]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

ya i lowkey miss eggnog ring

[azure gust]

hi i whanted to know if suddent death is relevent in low keys or in a specifique key 🙂

[bronze pike]

all rings are just dumb

[shy pecan]

It does a lot of work in low keys, yeah

[azure gust]

the talent is up to what lever when does it drop ?

[shy pecan]

If you're talking about the execution part, I don't remember exactly. Like low-mid teens? The 10% bleed itself is always relevant though

[light jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-lick-fast-lick-cute-cat-cats-gif-27624519

[jaunty warren]

Anyone using notters kingsbane practice WA who can answer a question?

[azure gust]

y cause i am going to do some 18 and i whanted to know if i should stay with the normal build or go suddent death

[shy pecan]

There's no normal build...?

[azure gust]

speaking about poison bomb

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575167

[shy pecan]

There's no normal build if that's what you're suggesting. Arterial vs. cleave vs. hybrid all have their pros and cons.

Just choose what you're comfortable and enjoy playing and go with that

Especially with 18s, they all work. Just have to know what your strengths are for each build

[azure gust]

ok i see thank you

[balmy condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1080572530554835072/1083610459778842715/cat-chomp-fireball.gif

[spice spire]

Us

[shy pecan]

Whispyr firing away, Quake eating it all

[spice spire]

The moment you think I’m bottoming whispyr I truly lost

[shy pecan]

It was joever

[spice spire]

[light jacinth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1070871565035655239/1086502908394209390/orig.gif?width=603&height=603

[storm forum]

I am mesmerized

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/bean-dance-crazy-aye-dats-fr-crazy-hoe-now-show-me-one-person-who-asked-gif-16195074

[earnest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-rolling-roll-funny-dark-souls-gif-25412731

[spice spire]

I asked bozo

[kindred crescent]

what transmog are people voting for?

[spice spire]

S2 seems to be the most popular (despite my name, this seems to be the vote for tmog)

[gusty mirage]

s2 is the best looking one

s1 is okay

s3 is booty cheeks

[slim pebble]

Asking for a friend what if you like booty cheeks

[spice spire]

It ain’t the good kind of booty cheeks

[severe sparrow]

larry feels awful as sin god damn lol

[runic hinge]

I voted for s1 mog

Because it’s good

[balmy condor]

larodar feels great as sin what

you get an entire phase of giga blast 100% uptime execute

[severe sparrow]

we havent got to that point yet right now he's just dicking around in the fire patches way too much

[balmy condor]

shouldn't be gone for more than like 2-3 seconds

[spice surge]

Just dont send kingsbane right before he charges and youre good

Nice spatter value and execute phase with bl, what more can you want from a boss as assa

[spice spire]

He do my rotation for me

[balmy condor]

Larodar might be my favorite boss this tier tbh

[severe sparrow]

are my tanks doing weird things then cuz he's out there for like 7-8s

[balmy condor]

Yes

That’s insane lmao

[spice surge]

Felt a bit undertuned but its a nice fight for sure

[balmy condor]

Larodar just charges out

[spice surge]

I like tindral though, kinda baffled how they managed to make the dragonriding boss a banger, but we certainly take those

[balmy condor]

And then runs back in

Shouldn’t ever be more than that

[balmy condor]

Tindral good too yeah

[woeful meteor]

Larodar backwards kiting

any Boss with it for that matter

[desert inlet]

yeah having to stand in front of the boss because there's poop on the ground is stinky

all bosses should stand perfectly still with their back to me

[spice surge]

Remove parry, or atleast remove kingsbane from being parryable

[desert inlet]

yeah or that

[severe sparrow]

idk he seems to pause for a sec at the end of the charge out, then he casually saunters back slow af

but he's gotta cross like half the fuckin room

i guess ill just die lol

[past forum]

The issue I’ve been having on Larry is that the adds are never stacked on the boss so I get like 0 spatter cleave

[earnest remnant]

tell people to stack under boss

[balmy condor]

Yall raids are fucking wild

[past forum]

I know they’re supposed to be

But

[balmy condor]

I always look at my own raid and I’m like wow we’re shit

But Jesus

I would be screaming lmao

[past forum]

A lot of ppl in our group have never progged mythic before

And positioning is one of the fundamentals that aotc raiding never really forces you to work on, outside of a few things here or there

[severe sparrow]

we have... a lot of carried men

[shy pecan]

Sounds right

[distant carbon]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[spice spire]

Real

[misty holly]

Bring back expertise.

[twin stag]

hey guys a pretty noob question but does it matter which wep you place amplifying and deadly poisen on?

[strange trail]

They go on both weapons automatically

[balmy condor]

Even better than that, they technically don’t even go on weapons

They’re just buffs on your character

[fallen forge]

does that mean we have poison skincare

[arctic hare]

lol, hellls yeah

[arctic hare]

holy shit, someone else who enjoys having mayo on their grilled cheese?

[fallen forge]

im more advanced than that my friend

i put mayo and butter in mine

butter on the outside, mayo on the inside

[arctic hare]

hellllllll yeah lmao

my dad always cooked it that way, and I never even knew it, couldn't figure out for the life of me why it tasted so damn good

[drifting cloud]

now theres 2 of them

[balmy condor]

Mayo multipliers

[fallen forge]

im not alone anymore

tears of joy rn

[plain moon]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-getting-out-of-hand-now-there-are-two-star-wars-viceroy-jedi-gif-11488909

[royal lantern]

tl:dr, we drink the poison

[runic hinge]

I’m about to drink poison if these mayo inside the grilled cheese people keep multiplying

[misty holly]

Seriously, the mayo goes on the outside.

[rotund oak]

mayo goes with everything on the outside

its the ''how much'' that makes the difference

too much can make it atrocious,too little makes it weird

needs to be as much as it needs to be 😉

just right

[grizzled sonnet]

Hi. Im currently playing as a blood elf but think i might change to night elf. Shadowmeld must be great as I assmue it can be used for the last 3 sec of KB window which mean "vanish" for every KB? Any thoughts?

[runic hinge]

Shadowmeld doesn’t work like that and it doesn’t work on bosses at all

Meld will sometimes let you get a restealth in a dungeon but it doesnt always work

I generally am saving it for chain pulls if I don’t have vanish or shadow dance up

And just praying it works

[runic hinge]

Hope that helps ^

[grizzled sonnet]

That changed alot. Thank you 😊👍

[runic hinge]

It does feel nice to have and it does work on negating some mechanics but I wouldn’t spend 25$ on it

[royal lantern]

imagine beeing a elf

when you can be a 🦊

[runic hinge]

I don’t wanna be horde again

[royal lantern]

man

having to swap during BfA, and instead of Boralus having the shity pyramid

:c

feelt so bad

[oak tangle]

nelf since day 1, big hands gang

[clever sapphire]

undead ftw

[royal lantern]

i look like a undead IRL, dont need that ingame tbh

[rotund oak]

Humans > All

[royal lantern]

i mean

atleast in wow, human is more interesting then elf at this point

which is actually impressive

[clever sapphire]

fair point, but you could look like a furry too IRL

[royal lantern]

how rich do you think i am?

[clever sapphire]

well i dont feckin know, for all i know you could own a yacht

[royal lantern]

i dont

but whisp does

its where he does his non-sandbag sims

with bonespike

[misty holly]

Every day I say a little prayer asking god for bonespike to be buffed in the next expansion.

Maybe one of our hero trees will be bonespike focused.

[balmy condor]

I can tell you right now it won't be