#assassination
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i think i remember having played some classic before snd came into retail, and being like, "im glad this is only a outlaw talent in retail " and then they added it baseline
make snd a speed poison idfk, but why is it a press button once and ignore it spell, seems like when you wanna cut button bloat that should be the prime thing to fuck off
the guides in the pins will help you get started. the tl;dr is get your bleeds out and setup spatter for envenom spam. for bosses/mini bosses all the ST stuff will maintain
isnt better to watch a youtuber or anything?
that depends on you man. whispyr has a yt channel where he covered aoe/dungeon scenarios too. i'm not sure about other channels who have provided the same
either way, once you see it make sure to practice it 🙂 just don't hold your CD's for WoW 2 unless you know you need DM for the next pull or something
first boss of throne. totem boss of throne. it's quite good for etchs on witches. pre feinting soul thorns.
also i'm pretty sure once you get one shot in any dungeon you just switch to elus and never take it off again
Yo guys, probably a question which has been asked a lot, Which spec is best for purely raid? mythic raiding (Assa or Sub)?
probably sub rn
Does assa sim less than it should?
no
Throne first boss the lightning stuff. You can avoid a 2nd hit by proper positioning, but elu for safety is still nice.
Also the flame shock on third boss fucks hella hard, can just pre feint/evasion when it's about to go out.
Waycrest it's the only thing you got for thorns. Pre evasion/feint when they're about to go out. Not a straight one shot, but the damage is pretty insane.
what about etch and yazma
Etch is true, yazma is AD and he didn't ask about that
Hey, i was wondering, how does Assas play on M+ compared to the other specs. In 20+Keys atleast. Ty in advance 
etch i just cloak
rise 
you don't necessarily need it for rise
but also most people just don't swap back once they go elus
especially once you're in the habit of pressing feint a lot
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
good
depends on the player a lot
but its still good
what are the poisions i use for M+?
Deadly + Amp if you're using a DTB build. Just deadly if you're using the shock (AP + demise) build.
Don't bother with wound poison or instant poison, they're strictly worse than the spec-specific poisons we get.
I prefer Numbing poison over atrophic for m+ too
unless tank needs to move/chain packs tho^ then numbing becomes counter productive imo
i might be dumb yea
Just spec into Atrophic and never think about it
if you talent into dragon tempered blades you use amplifying + deadly as lethal, and atrophic + crippling as non lethal, however there are a few things to consider nonlethals. Numbing is also good for m+ in pugs, and this week, for example since its sanguine, you dont put crippling because you dont want mobs slowed
get a dh, they dont lose dps if they spec into 50% reduced healing
yeah well my group doesnt have
its worth
sanguine can heal 100m+ in a key very often
reducing that is more dmg than instant or amp poison
whats your comp ?
palla/disc/bm/aug/rogue
so only aug push
i also put the 10 min bfa enchant on belt for sanguine this week
people talking like you cant get title offmeta

bm is fine
fuck even assa is off meta
whats meta right now anyway?
veng disc mage, havoc, aug?
its a pretty loose meta if you ask me
guardian/any heal/frost dk/survival/elemental
then close to meta specs:
warlock
outlaw
boomie
i think you can get title even with that meme comp
yes ik but doesnt mean you can pug anything
if ur one of those specs
if ur 5man its fine sure


runnign wound is rly good if u dont have mortal strike
it reduces ur dmg a but but faster for key
just play with a dh
this week is forti?
no
how do you capitalize on crimson tempest then
who let this man cook
o.o
by casting it
okay so you get 6 ticks

ct build is for 2 reasons
- gettign wound poison instead of instant vs instead of amp is a smaller loss
- ct big dam never drop except in rise
i put that spec here as a meme yesterday, did you try it out?
CT pointless pad if u still end up fighting an abomb for a minute after the rest of the pack is dead

hey guys whats a good benchmark for ST damage during a +20? im only hitting like 110k and feeling like garbage
thats what my deathmark is for
ok 
the only dungeon i drop ct is rise because you have 4t pulls after first room
its still worth every other key
ok 
hello guys , fresh rogue here , does this build good for overall M+ ? https://www.wowhead.com/fr/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/DAOFVVFRRFURQmJBQCVBNVUVVVQZEAUKFUBE
yep
what about it
which one are you mainly using ?
fresh rogue use this
well you're using talent points for amplifying and deadly

🤔
idk seems to work
thanks
so yourr build rather than the wowhead one ? 🙂
that build is also on wowhead
the one i just posted
its better in lower keys and i think a bit easier to play
if ur fresh just run it in every dungeon until 25 or so
oh perfect
imm runnig 25+ atm with my main Bdk
so im gonna use your build !
thanks

do you peel orange in the shower
Is good!!
or pre peel
Yeah
Either way ig
Can peel in shower since you can clean right away
So no sticky
truuuu
But I like doing slices
And is easier to pre slice
with sweet potato mash

Where's the invite? >:|
you don't have a boots

Is good if you have skin on your fingers
Damn
o yeah quake self cannibal
I do have skin. I just cannibalism when nervous
but like
wouldn't that be an issue
with oranges in general
not just shower oranges
take it off
in fact... wouldn't shower oranging rise more orange off the fingies
The water creates a weird oil, not just the juice.
Yeah
The water diffuses it
Kinda made it go everywhere
That was also the body hair issue
Which like
If you’re not hairy
Isn’t a problem
Yeah chest hair really got borked with me. Everywhere else was fine

I hope u like
hello whats are the best talents for assassination roque Mythic+ no acro dtb or mythic+ap or singele target?
And you know orange good

Turn the camera around coward
He's in the picture already
I’m wearin a scarf and a hat
Yeah but that’s it
(Don’t ever post nsfw btw I’m joking rn but really don’t do that)
I feel like I have to clarify that
I’ll DM dw
thats rude saying his bathroom is nsfw

so I started an onlyfans
how do ppl get fans lol
pass out business cards lol
link?
inc paywalling sims in onlyfans
Does OF take a bigger cut than patreon 
aight maybe the copypasta is too fresh
I'll let it marinate a bit and try again at some point
I was there for this but it’s pretty niche 
we tried man
Off topic was very off topic
all the omega unhinged off topic posts only happen when I'm sleeping or at work man
I'm fiending for it
OF takes 20% of revenue and patreon 5% per transaction apparently
Be the change you want to see in the world
make tiktoks where u walk up to people and ask them if they want a mystery box or 50$
see like this is what I mean. I go sleep, off topic has a banger
I wake up
I'm stuck here with soviet
im on your sleep schedule now

it's a cruel world man
That's around when I like to get up
I’ve been waking up super late. It’s 1:45 pm and I’m in bed still

RIP 
Okay
I think
I just don’t like oranges that much
Maybe shower tangerine is the play
Smell very good tho
:(
You gotta embrace the primal nature of tearing into it
If ur gonna peel in shower
Or yeah just pre peel
:(
go back monke with some primal barehand orange peeling underwater
that IS how people advertise their onlyfans tho
Why the fuck are you peeling oranges in the shower
it spams youtube shorts
Can get peel off in one go
Yeah try that next
So I can eat it
do it in the sauna
it makes orange smell everywhere
rly good
I still need to get more oranges
Smell is never the issue
I’m ur #1
It's very possible I just like oranges more than u guys do
🟠
🍊
yet you dont even post one
buy oranges
get money to buy oranges
What ilvl oranges are required for the shower
485 at least

mythic 4/4 oranges
Is that mochi
Momo sleepy rn
Just like me fr
Same
also hi momo i love u
He is biting my pinky
Good boy
He’s so real for that
Large meat
He’s him
I’m also Makin bread
very duck of u
Ur getting this bread?
HES EATING ME
He just like me
I'm new to rogue here and knowing full well this could spark a debate what is the rotation for cd and filler when using mark and kb?
brooo tindral is about to die and then we have 2 people with destroyed power lines and shit 
We're on Smolderon now..I'm legit scared.
./run WeakAuras.ScanEvents("LIQUID_PRIVATE_AURA_MACRO", true)
Why blizz...
!guide
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
#assassination-faq you can check here, also on wowhead, you can also watch some Whispyr videos.
ight ill have a look ty
yo
how much assa rogues depends on borrowed power from gear this season for m+ only?
not much more than anything else would
Its not as bad as it sounds
cursed image
is paladin cd reduction blessing any useful for sin on smolderon?
you'd need 2
good to know
if you play both equally well, probably
but im small brained assa enjoyer
this is gonna be the easiest 200 pull boss
my guild ever encounters

tindral nerf when
Cant enjoy that, when people get beamed by the first beam
guy in wowhead comments said that its a mythic boss and they are supposed to be hard, and HE killed it in 250 pulls, people should stop slacking

the har dpart of the fight is people dying to beams after like 400 pulls still
!up
don't worry we'll be there in a few weeks, nerfs inc
why does simming stats differ so much feels werid having mismatching echants and gems
wdym
like haste enchant on one ring and mastery on one is best for me
or green and mix of purple gems
just curious about it used to stacking one stat
yeh well assassination doesn't have bad stats
so stacking one stat just doesn't make much sense
you get infinite mastery from branch, infinite haste from wafting
i got something to waft to you
infinite crit from talents
and then vers becomes good
what's everyone been runn'n in m+ this week? arterial?
Real
Blizz needs to prog fps issues fr
Mythic Igira, i assume its worth switching to directly damage the spears only outside of KB windows?
it's never worth switching to spears
you'd have to rupture and then get caustic back up and by the time you do that the spear is dead
you'd lose out basically all your caustic damage for no reason
I see
there is good trinkets from m+ as well? I dont do raids on my alts so
Maybe for u but I’m different
(An idiot)
branch is the best on use trinket, crab/sandglass are both good as a passive
I wish I had a crab
seafood

I want a mythic pips 😦
Did you even play yet 
I want tindral nerfs
Lmfao

No
Soontm
Tell ur raid lead to funnel you 
I have a 489 hourglass, but I like the pips

not you too man fuck
wtf gimmie
Chat is this real
I’ll ping don’t test me 
I like AP and I like poison bomb
We haven’t really had any drop
And of course the peeps that don’t need it get it in their vault
I’ve given up on second hero Nick
Alright, last question I looked upon icy veins guide and i overwhelmed by aoe rotation as it was very long paragraph
is it hard to play ass rogue in keys?
No
yeah but this stupid fucking "I'm gonna do single target SIKE no amp bozo kek" build is gonna give me a hernia
depends on what you think is hard I guess, it's not really that bad
put bleed on stuff, pump cooldowns into a guy, rinse repeat
I don't do high enough keys where my talents matter all that much so I'm just playing the ones I like, although I might go arterial just because poison bomb covers wayy to much shit and is huge now
sounds like its managable
Thanks all for the answers
its a "most single target possible while taking ct build" idk
its still more than non cleave builds
just cause amp is gone doesnt make it bad
Idk I just do the highest simming build robot gives me
I play it because it takes my favorite talents
No
sub pvp
hi all whats the go build for low keys thanks
AP blindside on wowhead
ty
so after a long time
I learned how to use caustic splatter
gg
but u cant switch targets
i noticed
You can
must stay on the target u mut right
When it expires
hmm
You can activate on another Target
You just have to make Sure rupture is on the Target
i had a sin rogue in raid last night get really nice aoe from it so i tried it after.
yes after I got all my gear for outlaw I feel like trying sin now
Im still playing it on volco and nymue, because i forgot to change it 
u got me fucked up if i'm showing up to raid in a pirate cosplay
rolling into nymue with IC from council


I want to play it for single target but still need work on rotation.
since rotation still needs work, outlaw single target wins.
yea I noticed that

hahaha
I havnt logged as sin yet
all i know is we need to make sure all the buffs for kb is up before casting kb.
and then re-shiv during kb
and for aoe the caustic splatter sound is cool haha
https://wago.io/PFTo3o6Ug this is a helpful WA to hold your hand a bit
Or le
there are simpler timeline WAs as well
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
This one is great
I might switch now that I've got the core abilities down and Notter's is a lot of screen real estate
so I should start on the smaller one and I dont have to change later
Shrug, you do you boo
The big one just has the individual abilities and their uptime
The time line is literally telling you
To press what when
Yar, where as Notter's tells you how bad you fucked up 🙂
i see
After the fact
interesting
Do you know if dungeon slice should be used for assa?
10$ and 2 cokes
|| yes, using pretty much anything else is pretty cringe ||
Woah paywall whisp
You changed man
Since you started being an Youtube Star
Watch what happens when he becomes a OF star
dumb question but why do you vanish during kingsbane?
You want to crit your final tick vanish applies master assassin upping your crit
and do i only repture and envenom at 6 points?
Hi all 🙂 New here. Levelling a rogue currently. Should I have a sword in both main and offhand? Or sword+dagger?
You need double daggers for assassination.
4+ points. If you land on anything 4 or above, you finish. The only exception is prior to DM you want to use at least a 5+ envenom.
thanks for this.
"portable favoritable easy to link" form u mean
one of the quests in the legion class hall chains takes you to stormwind and you get this debuff, right now i can attack alliance players marked with warmode, as alliance myself

2 more questions, when am i suppose to use shadow dance and for what? also am I suppose to be energy starved alot?
Macro before Kingsbane, yes, also https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/overview-pve-dps
there's a n'zoth thing from BFA that does the same thing on command
I forget how it works exactly or if its a toy or what
i still need to do visions for the weapon enchant
are those rewards still character specific
or did they make em account wide finally
think so
They def need buff in m+
But in raids they still top.
Envenom at 4+ combo points to maintain buff uptime during Kingsbane
am i reading that right envemon extends kingsbane?
no

is it better to use bark on first burst or ashes
it's better to only use one of them and replace the other
i figured it would be great for ass since you can use both on every burst phase
is it ok to let rupture fall off during kings?
you can usually get one off in between full point envenoms
No, you want to maintain it during kingsbane, and as Atnosh said, you usually can do so between Envenoms
what?
there's a shared cooldown on trinkets
you can't use them both
kingsbane is a 1 min cd and both trinks are 2 min
every kings bane you use one of them
yeah but the non-deathmark kingsbanes are garbage
the trinkets are tuned to buff your 2 min cooldowns
that's what their damage increase is designed towards
now you use the trinket on off-minute kingsbanes
where you're doing a third of the damage
so you're getting a third of the value out of the trinket
it's awful
I'm talking the total
full package
the 1 min kingsbanes here
that burst phase
where you would use the trinket
is worthless
that's with a 100% buff
91 parse on this kill on heroic, maybe itd be higher with an hour glass?
on smold you'd probably want to use a my'das
the first one isnt but yeah i forgor about that
when my sim shows 62 stacks of kings but i cant get pasted 44 xD
i sim no buffs
then either your envenom uptime is garbo, you're not pressing buttons, or you're getting rng'd
fudge i didnt log the boss =/
Coming out of our first vanish (opener) do we want to env or refresh empowered rupture?
? How do you plan to refresh it with nothing to empower it
You dance kb and vanish during kb.
After that you have nothing to cast an empowered rupture
You let it run out (or refresh it with a non empowered one very late)
I like to refresh rupture if its pandemic (usually is)
env usually wont run out at the end of KB there
but its not really a major gain or anything
10% empowered rupture vs 10% empowered nearly guaranteed crit env is pretty close
Vanish>garrote>envenom>ambush order might change depending on cp
But refresh ur empowered rupture with less then 1 second left
What kinda plater profile is everyone using? I use luckyones and everyhting off the the side debuff wise is kinda distracting
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
It's in there
I prefer Jundies with some color nameplate mods for my debuffs
Do we have a BIS item list in discord? was looking at wowhead and it just shows raid items.
It's not really encouraged to follow a bis list unless you have full access to all the mythic items
Best to sim combinations until you do
Agreed
this is the world if people stopped looking up bis and I wasn't required to slap that garbage into my guides for the SEO

the world turns into cyberpunk dubai?
Ya
either that or the club penguin town center
these are the two futures that doctor strange saw
Hi Oxi ily
hi ed ily2
wait until club penguin 2
why don't I wait until you get some bitches
What
what

I’m just depresso man damn
I’m gonna hit filter
Quake you’d be less depresso if you had a nice shower tangerine
X2
I'm thinkin shower apple might be the move
Shower apple could be good 
Probably not as good aroma
No essential oils in the peel
yeah but from an edible sense
it's much easier
I think that might be the factor for me
dunno
man I googled food to eat in shower
and all these mfers saying orange
I need fresh ideas
I need innovators
they got fucking NPR on the oranges
during
the steam makes the orange peel give off aroma
you just let it sit there with your soap bottles
@keen spruce @desert inlet yo
shower mango?
already messy, you're in the shower already?
could be the move
SHOWER STRAWBERRY?
aight
we're getting somewhere now
where's the BIS list for shower eating when you need it
Best thing to eat in the shower is some beans n toast
hi ily
Are you British
Okay you need to go to jail
question: assuming the same ilvl, in an m16 or higher, would you expect an assassination rogue to do more dps than a hunter, demon hunter, or ret paladin? on trash mobs? on bosses?
No
No

Still as disgusting as the Brit’s then
Do I meme or no 
!mute @arctic socket 1m beans on toast is a criminal offense and I am delivering justice

Every single mute goes in a channel
Everyone knows
Honestly he’ll probably yell at me for not muting longer
Lmao
!mute @arctic socket 1m after reviewing the play, the ruling on the field stands, 10 bean penalty, repeat first toast
LMFAO

Git rekt
Krill issue
that's why they call me a bean counter

you want some of this smoke ed?
Obvobv
Which Ed
There's multiple Eds in here? 
Yes
Probably a lot

My first name (I don’t go by Ed tho)
414.52 people named edward for every 100,000 Americans
Out of 133,000 people surely
More then one is named Ed
and thats @shy pecan
no

that's edward dumb ass

they're all the same to me
wow
:|
okay JANNICK
There’s still a lot of Ed’s
I don't think you can say that
mad cause weird german name
fuck ton of those guys around here too
you want some smoke Reid?
That’s racist to edwards
Damn, I do not wanna know your first names, it ruins the lore
going straight for the last name man that's fucked you know he prefers Riley

HUH
Woah


HOLY that emote name
Would George watch?
inappropriate
tbh probably should lose more beans for that

Lmao
lol

Who is making these emotes??!
Please no







@keen spruce

I'd slice up a mango and eat it at a funeral service
@keen spruce nooo, leave before they hit you with the bad emotes

where did u find this photo of me

if you just go to a baby shower and ravish a mango
is it still a shower mango
no i want ripe mango
and wait for them to ripe
No patience
aint no way
that's like torture
It’s not days
i'm gonna shower mango
this is an improvement
Don’t forget about the shower toasts n beans

that statement is an act of war towards @desert inlet
best place to eat
she's team shower mango

you see, that's a great idea, but I wouldn't want to hurt your feelings like that
no
😭
there's less than 60 million people in britain

and only like 4% of them know how to use a computer

I wonder if I won my bmah auction
And only 50% of that 4% have a computer license
East coast is better
almost
that's two wrong opinions in a day
i think west coast is about 50 milion people

a third gets you a free shower mango, or a ban
im closer to the east coast
so he's right
but then again
jez lives on the east coast
so that negates it
unlucky

oxi about to innovate with the shower hummus
in game


in game
in minecraft
In Minecraft
oxi had prog raid scana you have to forgive him
Fyrakk prog makes me wanna
Wish you’d show me how saucy you are
Nvm I can’t finish that

give him the skyrizi

Maybe if you log review him he would


Probably has cp waste
The only waste here is a good shower ruined by beans on toast
I'd rather ask whispyr for a review on how to be happy
I'd probably get further than this guy trying to explain anything to me wow related
#retired
#washed
Cold
I could have said vegigmite on toast
Washed implies I ever had it
I spelt it wrong
do you use CT in ST in mythic plus?
no
Vegig
Nop
Shut
Make me
https://open.spotify.com/track/11ArWSwCKdG9P0ZAzDlS2G?si=cbafe2e8309645cd enjoy this song sad boy
Ok I will
I don't even use CT in AoE in mythic plus

Is that what you have playing during prog
Gerard way and Trivium. Wild combo
Never use ct st, only on aoe 
good album
Always loved trivium but never went huge into backstory . New project is pog tho
Good to hear he’s not a bastard since that’s like 90% apparently
Collectors 
he used to spend hours after concerts hanging out with fans
I've met him a few times
he's also super straight edge
Im almost done with my t3 set c:
he refused to sign my buddy's merch cause he was smoking a cig
Just like me fr
lol
Good shit big dog
That’s kinda wild actually. Good for him having his boundaries tho
90% of gamblers quit before they hit it big
8.7/10 was good shit ty homie
most expensive mechopeep NA
Smh
do people not play hybrid anymore, seeing alot of people prefer cleave in mythic plus.
id say cleave is better in tyra weeks
I just don't really feel the need to take CT and the bleed talents.
spatter + tier set can do a lot of heavy lifting
and there's a lot of mobs in each dungeon that's good to prio/cleave off of
I like ct, the more bleeds the better
when do they stop spinning
this needs FoK animations added
is dslice ok for assassin?
yes, rogue has the probs best maintained dslice
oh that's wonderful to hear!!
Beans win
hey guys, what sort of haste r yas running? i only have 10% atm lol thought i should have more?
Just sim for top gear and wear what the robot tells you
doing that, i can gear compare too cant i
yea gear compare also works
ok so i can gain 800 dps if i change my crafted ring from crit/mast to haste/mast




















