assassination

[keen spruce]

yo shmappy the prot warrior

one vault slot

big stonks

[spice surge]

Avoidance+socket

https://tenor.com/view/not-bad-ryan-reynolds-gif-23839048

[keen spruce]

so now my rogue vault is fucked surely

[spice spire]

If you post nick, sleep with one eye open duck man

[blazing jewel]

@midnight mist remove these trinkets from our vault

rn

give it to the yellow names as a charity event

[keen spruce]

2 more rats first 🐀

[gusty mirage]

its either neck or socket

cause no point in ring w/ 2 crafted rings

[spice surge]

Shmeeps got that rat pack frfr

[keen spruce]

shmups the bdk

got a myth track shoulder upgrade

shmups actually 480 ilvl now

actual functional character

[oak tangle]

people logged into wow over the xmas break?

[gusty mirage]

wait

I thought we get a full spark this week

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-rat-rat-post-dancing-bounce-gif-16643947

[midnight mist]

brother I dropped it months ago

[blazing jewel]

drop it out of my mf vault

[woeful meteor]

you do like 99%

[blazing jewel]

where time knife

[oak tangle]

do you not? there was no catalyst charge

[shy dust]

Bless my vault Oxi

[gusty mirage]

[shy dust]

For I slammed a massive 11 this week

[spice spire]

Holy fuck

[midnight mist]

I passed on a mythic ball trinket last week

[keen spruce]

shmeeps the aff lock got myth track pants upgrade

[spice spire]

Rae about to slam scana out of consequence

[midnight mist]

took a socket instead

[blazing jewel]

[midnight mist]

the 3 balls

[spice spire]

Branch boi

[midnight mist]

ye that one

[midnight mist]

absolute terrible trinket

[gusty mirage]

[midnight mist]

wonder who designed that one

[spice spire]

Me

[shy dust]

WH

[woeful meteor]

did you do this and last weeks quest

[keen spruce]

some fkin puzzlebox enjoyer

[gusty mirage]

probably not

[woeful meteor]

cause I'm very sure I used a fresh catalyst last week

[spice surge]

Much rather use puzzlebox than branch

[spice spire]

Sorry uwulane

[drifting cloud]

[spice spire]

Or edwinvanbeef

[vast loom]

ive done it

[spice spire]

Or whatever the hell that characters name is

[oak tangle]

any guzzlers perking up for fated tier?

[spice surge]

Edwinvanqueef?

[spice spire]

[shy dust]

[spice surge]

Avoidance too

[vast loom]

so nice

[oak tangle]

nick of time this tier is return of the seal of diurna shenanigans from tier1

[keen spruce]

okay clean upgrades on3 rats

so surely

[misty holly]

Is myth track Crab worth taking from vault?

[keen spruce]

rogue will have great vault

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/call-from-based-department-gif-25645857

[keen spruce]

okay so

[oak tangle]

is a socket or a nick

confirmed

[keen spruce]

myth track dagger

but wrong one

[midnight mist]

yo big dagger

[spice surge]

Bis sub boots

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-bad-gross-seinfeld-ew-gif-23977965

[oak tangle]

this 2 weeks of not playing over xmas got me considering swapping back to main windwalker

[keen spruce]

okay so the question is

[midnight mist]

are you guys really still trying to get the dagger after all this time

[blazing jewel]

[keen spruce]

will igira dagger

[oak tangle]

pls help

[keen spruce]

drop this week

cuz then i take socket

[spice surge]

Nah i already have it

[blazing jewel]

eleem man

is there any situation where id use mydas on sub

for 2nd on use

[gusty mirage]

imagine having the dagger

but still being french

what an unbelievably unfortunate turn of events for you

[oak tangle]

my rogue has bis weapons, i got the talwar and ritual dagger

[spice spire]

Yeah there is

Mental Illinois

[blazing jewel]

[spice surge]

Dont think so, outside of not having a good non on-use

[blazing jewel]

if I take the pills my gf goes away

[keen spruce]

okay that was somethin

i bedge now

[blazing jewel]

we will be staying in illinois

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

scana log in babe

its almost superbloom time

[blazing jewel]

if anyone is still doing those

they are more mentally ill than the combined might of #outlaw

[gusty mirage]

I need my half spark

and I'm not doing dungeons

so fuck you

[misty holly]

I do bloom on all of characters every week lol

[blazing jewel]

[royal lantern]

are you guys in #outlaw still thinking that the spec will see any serious play on the fights that matter?

[gusty mirage]

they believe it will shine on farm

[royal lantern]

ah yes

outlaw mains the last 10years

THIS TIME FOR SURE IT WILL SEE PLAY

[spice spire]

Assassination players coping on key play

[shy dust]

Give them credit they absolutely slammed the very useful tentacles on nzoth prog

[spice spire]

Outlaw in 8.3

[royal lantern]

tbf, it was 8.3

just proc Shit

[midnight mist]

on tindral

swear its the tech

[spice surge]

🐖 🧝‍♂️ 🐖 <- This is what 8.3 looked like

[blazing jewel]

I had a late night thought of thinking what if you mydas before you fly on tindral

so you can double on use the shield

[midnight mist]

i think on tindral you can prepull mydass

ye

[blazing jewel]

but yea that doesnt work

[midnight mist]

no

[gusty mirage]

PREPULL MYDAS TECH

[midnight mist]

you prepull mydas and you can do that

[gusty mirage]

[midnight mist]

hey oxi

listen

[slate crown]

Mr duck did you know there’s a game where you can play as a crow with a bow and sword? You collect shinies (and souls). It’s not quite the same as being a duck but it’s close.

[gusty mirage]

outlaw rogues grasping at straws to make their shit trinket seem not dogshit

[midnight mist]

but just allows you to get 2 uses in p1

[spice surge]

People were prepulling mydas on smolderon (not sub)

[midnight mist]

its good tho i swear

big tech

[slate crown]

I got the boot knife and turtle tooth

[gusty mirage]

just play DH already bro

it's better anyway

high APM

very zoomy

should fit your outlaw brain nicely

[spice surge]

Is the effect 30s long zac

Or how long is it

[midnight mist]

idk outlaw does damage in m+ why would I play dh

aint no dh outdamaging me

[midnight mist]

no its 20s

you cant do it before fly

[blissful forge]

zac

[midnight mist]

cna just do it to get a second use in p1

[blissful forge]

come challenge me bro

[midnight mist]

otherwise you have to delay and its cringe

[midnight mist]

at what

[gusty mirage]

sudoku

[midnight mist]

I was very good at sudoku when I was younger

[earnest remnant]

sepuko

[midnight mist]

I probably would win

[spice surge]

Or just play crab and proc it on every shield

[midnight mist]

dont try me

[midnight mist]

no

because you have a 489 mydas

[gusty mirage]

I'd like to apologize for being scana earlier today

[midnight mist]

because you are main outlaw

[gusty mirage]

and sending you a raccoon instagram video

[spice surge]

I am neither of those things, but i understand

[midnight mist]

thanks for being understanding

[royal lantern]

oxi

brand on tindral

yes no

[gusty mirage]

no

[midnight mist]

no

[royal lantern]

thx

[spice surge]

I would usually slander outlaw, but i will not slander zac

[gusty mirage]

pls do not slander my son

[royal lantern]

outlaw?

[gusty mirage]

no fuck outlaw

I protect zac

[blazing jewel]

zacsination was a good time this tier

[cerulean nest]

yet another Pips in vault

[midnight mist]

ye was fun for a boss or 2

3 is pushing it

[gusty mirage]

its okay the balancing team made sure you never have to play it again

[cerulean nest]

I was using it the other night and didn't look like my stacks were dropping?

[midnight mist]

ah nice

does that mean i can play outlaw now

[gusty mirage]

absolutely

[midnight mist]

nice

[gusty mirage]

or you can listen to whispyr's copium that it does better boss damage than sub on the last 2

[midnight mist]

i almost got to play outlaw on fyrakk oxi

[dusty storm]

pog?

[gusty mirage]

I think outlaw is very good for fyrakk tbh

[midnight mist]

but sub is so op that we gain 2/3 people not using cds on shield

so I am asked to play sub

[gusty mirage]

mad underrated

[midnight mist]

[gusty mirage]

sub is OP

[midnight mist]

ye idk for some reason i was toppnig everything as sub

outlaw*

but I was giga last on shield damage

[gusty mirage]

outlaw is good

[midnight mist]

and sub does like

[gusty mirage]

and playable on every boss

[midnight mist]

3 times the damage of anyone else on shield

[gusty mirage]

ye

[midnight mist]

ok calm down chief

[gusty mirage]

it really is

lol

[midnight mist]

you never met this tindral guy

[gusty mirage]

I haven't?

[dark token]

Council????

[midnight mist]

not as ouylaw you havent

[gusty mirage]

well I won't even meet LFR bosses as outlaw

because I'm not playing that spec

[midnight mist]

very based of you

[gusty mirage]

how is outlaw unplayable on council

out of all the bosses you picked

you picked a cleave fight

[midnight mist]

ye its fine on council

[dark token]

I misread I thought he said sub is op and playable every boss

[midnight mist]

if you get ducked you can get fucked tho

[earnest remnant]

council doesent exist

[gusty mirage]

only boss I would consider inting by playing outlaw is smolderon

[earnest remnant]

cant change my mind

[gusty mirage]

because sub is just that much better

[earnest remnant]

fake boss

[midnight mist]

idk

[dark token]

Tindral is way worse imo

[midnight mist]

I think the only real int is tindral

[cerulean nest]

can someone explain the brand on tindral thing? everyone uses it and it didn't look like stacks were dropping on intermissions when I was using it last week

[gusty mirage]

tindral about to get taken out back

watch

[dark token]

You lose all ur uptime on intermissions

[gusty mirage]

either this week or next

[dark token]

Capped

[gusty mirage]

tindral is about to get absolutely ass blasted

[dark token]

No burst aoe

[midnight mist]

doing feathers as outlaw is also really bad

we can meme all we want about the downtime thing

[gusty mirage]

I mean its not a meme

[midnight mist]

but rn if you lose your stuffs as outlaw its kinda terrible

you are in deep shit for a while

[spice surge]

4 target cleave fight was alright, that was 2 tiers ago though, time to let it go

[gusty mirage]

wait until new and improved tindral 3.0

[midnight mist]

ye cant wait

[gusty mirage]

in b4 10 roots and 8 seeds

[blazing jewel]

somehow they will still make seeds and feathers spawn in fire

[dark token]

I hope before end of week tindral gets blasted cause my guild took 2 weeks break for Xmas and we about to blast this bird weds

So I need nerfs tonight

Tbh we could kill without

[gusty mirage]

according to RIO 99 guilds are 8/9

which is kinda nuts

I think WCL is 120?

[dusty zenith]

Is ashes of embersoul good? im simming it at 483 ILvl and its showing a 2-3k dps loss over my current trinkets

[dark token]

I thought it was more

[gusty mirage]

maybe 130?

[dusty zenith]

blood mallet shows its 2nd best though

[earnest remnant]

fyrakk dies tonight

[midnight mist]

thats a low number

[gusty mirage]

is one of your trinkets branch?

[earnest remnant]

im on no sleep

[dusty zenith]

yes

[earnest remnant]

i need it to be quick

[gusty mirage]

because it's worse than branch

[dusty zenith]

branch and pips

[gusty mirage]

by a sizeable margin

and double on-use is a no no for assa

[midnight mist]

you have to gobble balls tho

[misty holly]

Didn't some rogue from liquid say ashes was better

[gusty mirage]

no

they used ashes because it made no sense for them to sit in everboom farming branch for a marginal DPS gain that required more thinking than press button

[shy dust]

I have faith.

[cerulean nest]

🤌

[gusty mirage]

because it's rng whether your stacks drop or not

if you're okay with that

play brand

I would not recommend it

[cerulean nest]

alternative would be hourglass or pips then?

[iron relic]

hey, is someone from here managing the bloodmallet trinket comparsion? - or are they doing "their own thing"? - i just noticed that the conquest pvp on-use trinket sims a few k dps higher than the mirror as example - on 476*

[gusty mirage]

yea hourglass or pips good alternatives

[spice surge]

Even if you dont drop any stacks, its like a 5 min fight in terms of how often you get the procs

[midnight mist]

ye

I heard about some mydass tech instead

something like that

[spice surge]

Theyre just doing a single trinket, not combinations

But yeah mirror isnt great as assa

[iron relic]

hmm i mean single trinket, but they probably use it only every two minutes instead of every minute

[spice surge]

Well you have kingsbane every minute

[iron relic]

it "should" be on par with the others, but the only pvp trinkets are waaay down

[spice surge]

So its an ok trinket

Its just tuned very very poorly for pve

[iron relic]

yes, exactly which is why it should be included on bloodmallet

[gusty mirage]

tbf it was asked about and simmed recently

lemme find it

[iron relic]

in any case it's definitly not down there for sure :D

[dusty zenith]

i cant even read that

[iron relic]

yes, that's the point - it's on the ground lol

[cerulean nest]

we're holding as of this week on tindral>fyrak so this'll be my last vault til CE and there's a Pips in there

wondering if I should take lol

[gusty mirage]

#tc-research message

[spice surge]

The sim has timed out unfortunately oxi

[gusty mirage]

recently

[iron relic]

my gs is low (456) so maybe agi sims more than it should for me.

pvp 476 // 10min sim singletarget all buffs 118359 dps
mirror 476 // 10min sim singletarget all buffs 116779 dps

from 106466 dps base / without trinket, that's an increase of

mirror 9.6866605301223%
pvp 11.1707023838596%

[gusty mirage]

the tldr was, it's a good placeholder trinket

but worse than ashes and branch

[raven egret]

grabbed a socket for this week's vault 😦

[iron relic]

yeah, that's what i think too - for me personally, that information would be nice since i am leveling (*i mean farming gear for) my rogue. it's really easy to get the conquest point trinket - if you play m+ only, it's kind of a pain to get a good alternative

if you are unlucky*'^^

[gusty mirage]

yea I mean there's no reason not to use it, it lines up well with CDs and can carry you over until you get something better

and considering there's like 5 total trinkets worth a damn

[iron relic]

the misleading part is that they only sim a 450 version - and on top of that it's simmed wrong.

hmm wonder who is generally in charge of updating bloodmallet 🤔

[oak tangle]

we did one raid and i got like 5 items it was awesome

[exotic hearth]

!FUU

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[snow ore]

With sanguine being in the pool this week do I go Amplifying, Atrophic/Numbing, and then Wound over deadly? or still default to deadly other than like Lord/Lady Waycrest fight?

[spice surge]

You do not go wound as assassination no

Because if you dont have deadly you cannot proc spatter

(ontop of you losing a fuckload of damage by using a poison thats doing 1/6 of the damage)

[snow ore]

oh duh, yeah that'd cripple my dps

[junior yoke]

Can’t see sh*t

[oak relic]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[storm forum]

If you somehow got dtb but not Amp poison, maybe you could use wound poison as your second poison, but I would still say ur a psycho.

[snow ore]

yeah no lol, I just recently got decent daggers so still used to outlaw where instant poison isn't insanely important

[junior yoke]

Hey btw maybe this question shouldn’t be here but I don’t know where to ask.
Is there any website where I could see all the trading post items that have existed?

Ordered by months or smth

[raven egret]

wound poison in pve... I need a shower after reading that

[manic quartz]

would you play CT on 24 Everbloom? or just the cleave?

[limber lion]

Yees

[manic quartz]

so yes for CT?

[limber lion]

Yes

[manic quartz]

tyy

[cerulean nest]

feel like I should take Pips over a socket knowing I'll have full sockets in a few weeks regardless

even though idk if I'll ever use pips

[storm forum]

I'd use pips in m+ cause crab doesn't exist

[tawny geyser]

Need some opinions.
This was a +25 Rise.
I failed my rotation maybe twice and died two times.
Is Demonology just so strong or I just have skill issues to have such a huge DPS difference?

[junior yoke]

Bro 😂

Demonology just deals much more dmg than assa

If there’s someone that tells you that you should do same damage, he’s cringe

[tawny geyser]

Yeah, every run with Demo feels deppresing.
I thought it was gonna be bad with DH, but I actually stay in range with Havoc

but with Demo, never.

[junior yoke]

If u want to outdamage meters go outlaw

I find assa more funny to play, just for that I play it

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[tawny geyser]

Trust me, I tried...several times.
But I am tunnel visioning too hard when playing Outlaw. Unable to focusing on Kicks and Blinds and interrupts overall.
I can do damage yeah, but that's about it.

[wicked valve]

Now I know why stat weights are ill advised. Pawn told me a mythic neck was a 22% upgrade over my current one, when I simmed it I'd lose 2.5k dps. sheeeeet

[spice spire]

Pawn in the year of our lord 2023

[drifting cloud]

2.5k sounds like a lot, did you forget to socket it

[wicked valve]

Is there a better qucik sight to use? I know the answer is sim everything, but when deciding what to roll on in raid a quick % is very helpful.

[past forum]

just wait til you make it til the year twenty twenty four, pawn becomes bis in slot

[wicked valve]

Nope. Added 3 sockets with the same gems Im using in my current neck to keep it fair.

[spice spire]

Unfortunately no

Because stat weights will never remain the same after a piece of gear is replaced

No static stat weights possible

[wicked valve]

Dang, well thanks for the heads up. I knew it wasn't ideal but I figured it'd be at least close. Guess I'll just sim everything always.

[vast loom]

anyone have the PI sim string?

[spice spire]

Just use the button on raidbots

But if you need it

external_buffs.power_infusion=0/120/240/360

Adjust time to dm

[vast loom]

oh i didnt see it thanks!

[pulsar dirge]

Just did a +22 BRH the tank didnt stop chain pulling with mobs at like 4% the entire run, was ready to burst a vein

turns out it didnt affect my damage at all and it was my highest log

[spice spire]

Yeah

Turns out no breaks and doing damage constantly

Means you do more damage

[royal lantern]

interesting observation

tell me more

[shy pecan]

Doing damage all the time means more damage?

[spice spire]

More damage = more damage

[past forum]

y'all are giving this master class for free smh my head you could charge so much for this wisdom

[shy pecan]

More George pics = more George pics?

[spice spire]

That math is mathing

[runic hinge]

I run a droptimizer sim at the start of raid and leave it open on my second monitor

[cinder geode]

is parsing high with sin only possible with pi ?

[strange python]

big vault

[wicked valve]

Good idea. ty

[shut owl]

4 weeks of my'das talismans in my vault. someday I'll see a branch t-t

[shell pawn]

what build is good for farming 11s? AP+CT or just hybrid build

[slim pebble]

The AP build

[cerulean nest]

am I wrong that the only DM during Tindral that's scuffed by branch would be the opener?

[balmy condor]

Nop

Rest are okay

[cerulean nest]

so you're saying if I can engineer a prepull branch situation where it works out I'm a legend?

[balmy condor]

Definitely not

[cerulean nest]

dang

[drifting cloud]

what I did before giving up was

facing towards the sunflare or whatever it is

and picking up left, back

and t hen running threw right one while boss gets moved

[cerulean nest]

like casting it where the boss will move after first beam, running to boss to open, picking up two while boss is moving and kite the third for a sec once you're planted again

yeah basically same idea

does using it take you out of stealth?

[dark token]

What I did was cast it on pull at the spot where you drop 1st beam

Shadow step boss

Do accelerated opener

Pick up 2, then tokyo drift into the 3 orb as you leave the beam area

It end up like 1/1/4 timing I think

Which is fine

[cerulean nest]

gonna mess around with it

if it doesn't take you out of stealth I would just prepull use it in the spot the boss moves after first beam

[dark token]

It does

[cerulean nest]

shoot

[dark token]

I tried 2nd boss position after first beam

Wasn't as consistent as 1st beam spot

[cerulean nest]

alright good to know

I have Ashes and it's obv easier but if every other dm is us mostly planted it feels worth it to try and just solve the first one somehow

[dark token]

Ashes is probably better on tindral

Ur 2 mins are sent on shield with 100% dmg amp

And less cringe opener

Ashes is more bursty

It's only 0.4% worse on patchwerk for me

I would use m ashes > branch > h ashes on this hoss

[cerulean nest]

the difference is wider for me but it prob means I just need to regem a lot more toward mastery

yeah I just have heroic ashes

I'll give branch a shot

[junior yoke]

whish me luck for tomorrow guys

much love

[royal python]

Does feint stack with evasion DR with elusiveness

[balmy condor]

Yes

[swift sedge]

Sin still doing pretty well? or have we fallen out of favor for sub now?

[royal python]

Yeah, I got kicked out of my guild cause I don't parse high. I'm 3200 rating on m+ n do decent single target without buffs.

[royal lantern]

where the fuck do you play where shit like that happens

[royal python]

Silvermoon

[royal lantern]

Wish Version of Liquid?

[royal python]

Revolution guild

Got kicked 5 days back

[royal python]

EU

[royal lantern]

they fucking didnt kill smolderon yet

[royal python]

Yeah

[royal lantern]

who the hell thinks spec means ANYTHING there

[royal python]

They recruited a new outlaw rogue n kicked me

[winter gale]

Guys, is assa now behind both other specs in terms of raid dmg/potential?

[royal python]

So I'm trialing in next reset with new guilds

[balmy condor]

depending on the fight

it's still one of the best specs

[bright turret]

While Sub is the best raid spec, Sin is still strong

Nothing is tuned tightly enough where you gimp your team playing Sin at all

[sweet dawn]

I noticed on bosses like Volcaross my DPS isn't as high, but that's to be expected because there's no phase we can abuse to get crazy numbers

[balmy condor]

yepge

[winter gale]

Then I simply underperformed heavily tonight. I did some Mythic bosses after 3 weeks break and I was badly under what I was achieving before. I guess new team, no priest for PI, 2x nerfs and ring rust are my resons 😂

I sim exactly 220k, I guess that’s good

I think pooling is my atm problem

[royal python]

During kingsbane , is ambush to skipped for mutilate or doesn't matter

[jaunty warren]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[slim hamlet]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[storm forum]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[raven egret]

a old guildie of mine just reported; smolderon killed their guild

[balmy condor]

moldy ron

awful boss

[agile geode]

Strange how a 3% make us descending in logs a lot

I know, sin Is still One of the best specs but i havnt Imagine a downgrade like this in logs

It Is also true that logs nowadays are weird

[balmy condor]

descending in a logs a lot in what conext

[midnight mist]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[balmy condor]

3% is around 6.5-7k

[icy acorn]

also many people are switching to sub lately

[balmy condor]

it's still top 3 in heroic 90%, top 4 in heroic 50%

[agile geode]

I mean we were First in overrall dmg and now 10th or similar

[balmy condor]

like where is this huge drop off

TENTH

by what metric

[agile geode]

Yes in logs

Wowhead

[balmy condor]

wowhead is not a metric

wowhead is a webpage

[agile geode]

Kek

[past forum]

but it has wow in the name

[weak saffron]

yeah its means Wow in all in your head

[icy acorn]

Overall on all bosses assa is 12th BUT that is highly influenced by some pad heavy fights

boss dmg assa is still really good

[agile geode]

True

[icy acorn]

actually

second

after sub

[balmy condor]

I mean are we looking at just overall damage?

[agile geode]

Nono

I was Just saying that the week before the Nerf we were firstspec in overrall

And now we're not

Just that, i wasnt complaing anything

[balmy condor]

yeh I mean if the top 5-6 specs are within around 5%, a 3% nerf will shuffle it around quite a bit

[agile geode]

Yep

It Is really balanced tier excluding for aug ofc

[balmy condor]

aug is..... curious

[sharp osprey]

Guys what should I tell my aug who has never given me ebon might in raid

[agile geode]

Is weird a lot

[sharp osprey]

Should I let it be

[balmy condor]

nothing?

[agile geode]

Nice idea but weird in a game like wow

[balmy condor]

why are you worried about his damage

[icy acorn]

what even happened with the hooks from aug?
didnt they work last season?

[balmy condor]

[sharp osprey]

Oh I just want to be higher on the in game meter

[balmy condor]

they were even worse

[icy acorn]

oh

[sharp osprey]

Idc if his parse is bad

[balmy condor]

just take a paintbrush to your monitor

draw a lil yellow bar

[icy acorn]

just make all details meters yellow

and say rogue op

[sharp osprey]

Actually good tip

Maybe ill swap my meter to healing

[icy acorn]

or interrupts

[oblique moon]

when do we press ashes during cds?

[sharp osprey]

With kingsbane

[icy acorn]

3secs after kingsbane

[past forum]

people actually ask for aug buffs? i have /cancelaura Ebon Might macro's into mutilate

fight back

[sharp osprey]

Our boss damage would be higher if I had it

[icy acorn]

https://i.gyazo.com/1a5fb8ed47c684eb30fde20c5b954ea8.png

wym

they are the worst spec

obviously

[quiet oar]

Defense

[past forum]

true last on the only metric that matters

[dusty zenith]

sophic or wafting devo does it matter?

[pure moth]

Would depend on gear set up. If your gear doesnt have much haste.. sims will probably suggest wafting. Its best to sim for proper information

[dusty zenith]

yeah thats what im doing now

[carmine shore]

It seems like you need quite a bit of haste before it suggests anything else

[dusty zenith]

jesus youre right

[carmine shore]

Wafting's pretty safe

[dusty zenith]

wafting a full 1k dps better than sophic

[balmy condor]

wafting generally also gets better with more gear

[dusty zenith]

Last question. Do you guys macro trinket on use with like using elemental potion

trying to free up key strokes here

I already have shadowdance and KB macroed together

[balmy condor]

potion with deathmark,

branch with deathmark

if you're using ashes put that into a macro with kb

[dusty zenith]

I have branch

[balmy condor]

cool then branch potion dm all together

[dusty zenith]

sweet thanks!

[balmy condor]

np

[stiff vale]

!logs

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[potent forge]

ty blizz

[steel stump]

[tacit leaf]

is there someone I can bug for sim questions and log reviews?

[raven egret]

Grats, but I also hate you at the same time, I'm conflicted, but I'm happy for you

[spice spire]

Hi

Also @balmy condor kinda my goat

[balmy condor]

baaaaaaa

[keen spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aLYvZ5sX28

[untold igloo]

hiya! wondering if anyone knows how the witherbark's branch works by default in raidbots sims? like how many seconds of the buff are we getting and @ how many stacks?

[spice spire]

1/1/7

One second, pick up, one second after, pick up, holds for 7 after.

[untold igloo]

ok sweet, and so for single target im guessing it's covering the whole deathmark window then?

[spice spire]

Ye

[untold igloo]

thanks ❤️

so if you're a noob like me and find yourself inconsistently staggering your orb pickups, might ashes be safer as an on use? im max gear and it sims slightly worse, but i feel like the consistency might be better?

[runic hinge]

Correct

[untold igloo]

awesome, thx y'all

[runic hinge]

Also you should macro ashes into kb as opposed to into DM

[untold igloo]

oh? I usually just press it right before my deathmark? ashes 20 sec, deathmark 16, kingsbane 14, why not what I'm doing?

cuz i mean kingsbane comes after 2 gcds

[spice surge]

Ashes ticks down over time

[untold igloo]

what

[balmy condor]

"decaying every 2 sec"

the buff gets worse over time

so the way you're doing it

it's decaying for 2-3 ticks before buffing anything of value

[untold igloo]

ah, this way it'll be stronger for the last tick of that sweet sweet kingsbane

okie

thank you all 🙂

[gusty mirage]

I've never related to a trinket so much in my life

the effect ended in 9.2, been burned out since

[royal lantern]

you can draw energy for so long?

[gusty mirage]

I consume enough caffeine to kill a small human

so yes

[vestal wren]

time to finish a can of red bull

[gusty mirage]

[sleek gale]

any general advice on maintaining uptime on mythic larodar? i know thats a pretty vague question, but any little tips and tricks would be appreciated :')

specifically, i'm having a hard time balancing keeping uptime and not dying. my guild has me taking orbs that are always in fire, so i have to reserve cloak for them. feint is a lifesaver ofc, but it eats up energy if i use it too much

as far as adjustments i've already made, i'm using ashes instead of branch and i'm considering switching to the vers flask for survivability. thoughts?

[outer cairn]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

assassination

[outer cairn]

uh

[severe oyster]

Bot doesnt' like yo8u

LOL

!wa

[prisma monolith]

assassination

[spice spire]

@vestal wren

[proven jasper]

The bot has lost its mind

[balmy condor]

no

the bot hasn't lost its mind

someone fucked up the assassination !wa command

[past forum]

smh my head they nerfed ass so much we aint even got weakauras no mo

[slate crown]

Moroes is sick

😦 😦

[balmy condor]

my money is on @midnight mist

the !wa command for outlaw got changed and suspiciously the assassination one got changed to just "assassination" at the same time according to the version history

[midnight mist]

hm

[balmy condor]

!update

[prisma monolith]

Updated.

[bold drum]

yeah he removed the "outlaw" text earlier

[balmy condor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[midnight mist]

I didnt do that I think

idk

[midnight mist]

i dont really understand how I could have accidentaly done that tbh

moroes prolly did it himself

silly guy

[balmy condor]

surely

[spice spire]

surely

[limber lion]

why does everyone have a cool name and paladin is just paladin

[keen flume]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[woeful meteor]

Evoker is called "Rufer" in german

which I guess is the correct translate but it sounds so wrong

[balmy condor]

argumentation evoker

[storm monolith]

I'M LOSING MY MIND

ok so if anyone knows i'd immenstely appreciate it. i'm trying to get to eredath on antorus, but after having completed both defense quests over the course of two days in order to get the priest mission to pop up, it still hasn't. i can't talk to illidan or the elf, and on both ship locations for the zones i've gone into the vindikar to try and get the question from the human guy. zip, zero, zilch has shown up. i'm at my wit's end

[little summit]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[arctic tusk]

that isnt bis tho right youd want to wait 3 seconds or something

i forgot exactly

[balmy condor]

it's close enough to bis

[split grail]

Should I be using IC on council? My raid leaders want me to switch to it but it doesn't seem worth it to me

[balmy condor]

yes

[split grail]

ty

[tawdry flare]

When I look at logs after raid - I have no idea what to really think. Is it only possible to parse well with Aug and PI?

[glad tundra]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/G47xf1bvw6XTNnWk#fight=29&type=damage-done&source=24 can someone take a look at my Kingsbane windows on this boss?

[spice spire]

Missed your crit on your penultimate tick on both of your first two kingsbanes

[glad tundra]

thats just down to RNG right? i vanished at the right time?

[spice spire]

No you vanished too late

[spice spire]

You vanished at 25s

[cunning geyser]

do we find either of these options great or are they just whatever?

[spice spire]

Max ilvl dagger isn’t nothing

Kinda depends on what ur gear is

[slim hamlet]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[balmy condor]

yeh if you don't have a 489 dagger

that's a dagger angle

[severe sparrow]

what's the best strat on council anyway? just ic and then stay on whoever is the best target near another? or should i be multidotting outside of stealth? feels like that would be kind of hard to keep env up and do that

[cunning geyser]

they are both upgrades so obviously simming, just if the neck was actually lowkey good I could always get a max ilvl dagger

[cunning geyser]

484 ilvl with both daggers at 483 one of them being nick of time

[cerulean nest]

am I high or do the branch orbs sometimes literally move away from you when you get close

[green apex]

So wound poison is still a no-go right?

[spice spire]

Correct

[green apex]

ty

[eternal nymph]

Nah they wiggle real weird sometimes

Happens super rarely tho

[balmy condor]

you can edge them

sometimes if you jiggle the orb and edge it

it just stops moving

entirely

very funny trinket

[dark token]

this is my last mythic vault

i got rekt

[slim hamlet]

And sometimes it even keeps going, but away from you

Pretty good

[dark token]

tier shoul be banned when u have mythic 5piece

[eternal nymph]

Extendo prison on tindy now?

[slim hamlet]

Yo trinket tho

Time to switch to outlaw

[dark token]

naww

my last socket is more worth

spark this week right?

[eternal nymph]

Ye

[slim hamlet]

yap

[junior yoke]

I can't believe this XD

[slim hamlet]

poggies

[junior yoke]

branch+nick this week, wow

happy 2024 I guess

I should take chest right?

[woeful meteor]

No m signetbrand fyraak inc and by luck I wont get hc either

[earnest remnant]

Waiting for my internet to come back on so I can check my vault

[woeful meteor]

[junior yoke]

whish u luckc

fuuuuuuuuuuuuck XD

[earnest remnant]

Well it’s only a m+ vault

So belt or daggie plz

[sage pine]

Hey psst have you guys found wound poison ever worth on sanguine weeks

[eternal nymph]

You're gimping yourself too much with it as assa

As sub or outlaw definitely go for it tho

[sage pine]

Okay good call ty

[rancid spade]

dream or hell?

[dark token]

hell

[dark token]

i would loot that pips so hard

[woeful meteor]

Took it, but mostly cause I already have full sockets

Nice minor upgrade for tindral and I can still cope for hc signet on fyraak

[weary badger]

Is cataclysmic signet brand a yay or nay for tyran?

[echo junco]

Aint hourglass way better overall for single/aoe?

[storm forum]

Depends on the tank and the dungeon. If you can stay in combat a lot and not have more than ~10 seconds of down time between pulls it can be good

But if you drop stacks too much for any reason it's pretty bad

[lean portal]

welcome in branch jail

enjoy

[storm forum]

Like Rise it's unplayable

AD is probably bad too

Throne probably bad

Wait most of these dungeons suck for staying in combat

[echo junco]

Ive heard its bad to open vault this early before work. Can any1 confirm?

[earnest remnant]

third socket of the season LETS GO

[junior yoke]

nop, I work in 1:30 hour and nick of time

[junior yoke]

here

[echo junco]

Wow

Is it doable to pug mythic raid the first 2?

[earnest remnant]

yeah

[gusty mirage]

[earnest remnant]

hey atleast its over

[gusty mirage]

we saw p2 tonight

i'm optimistic this boss might die within the next 2-3 weeks

[gusty mirage]

no one was gonna point out my typo?

yall some hoes

[earnest remnant]

bruh its 7 in the morning

i havent had my coffee yet

[runic hinge]

You’re assuming I can read

[earnest remnant]

cut me some slack

[runic hinge]

Plus it’s 1 am and I just got outta work

[gusty mirage]

you didn't even respond at all

[fleet pagoda]

literacy

[gusty mirage]

[earnest remnant]

dont have my contacts in

cant see shit

need to edit the fyrakk kill

[icy acorn]

just focus your eyes?

[earnest remnant]

if i try to squint my eyes they close

cuz my eyes are squinted by default

[icy acorn]

lmao

[gusty mirage]

BRUH

[earnest remnant]

[junior yoke]

What’s this tmog?

[earnest remnant]

heritage armor

[junior yoke]

Oh, night elf armor okok

[worthy surge]

Hello all can someone help with a good talen build for 20 keys and below

currently using Arterial Precision build is that the best ?

[balmy condor]

yep

[worthy surge]

thanks for the reply so the one thats on top atm on sub creation use that in all key levels ?

[icy acorn]

have you tried to unsquint them

[balmy condor]

idk I'd rather gouge my eyes out with a spoon than use subcreation

[worthy surge]

i see....

[dark token]

cleave build with CT sucks btw

top 2 guys are ct enjoyers

and passassin was pre both nerfs

cant wait to start pushing and convince people who are clowning me for dropping amp poison

[balmy condor]

[runic hinge]

is that this

[dark token]

yes

if you need boss dam i recommend this build, since it keeps ur core cleave talents and puts everything else into ST

[runic hinge]

Are you a tight spender kid of guy or imp ambush

[dark token]

tight spender

imp ambush seems pretty bad in keys

you dont ambush much except bosses really

[lean portal]

parses for m+ is so irrelevant imo

[dark token]

i agree not enough groups log but its still relevant data

[lean portal]

484651 different scenarios

[dark token]

and as you go higher keys scenarios converge

all tanks will pull well

people will do huge pulls

routes get fixed

people copy the +30 route on youtube for all their 25-29 keys

its a shame i can feel sin capping out on survivability tho

probably wont live higher than 28, mayyybe 29 some keys

[echo junco]

Ive watched zero in past weeks, hes only playing amp build. Never CT

[dark token]

yes

[echo junco]

Past days*

[dark token]

zero is not known for his amazing theorycrafting

[runic hinge]

I watched him press kb right before dance for 3 hours

[dark token]

yeah

spending 80 hrs a week pushing keys =/= skill

he does a lot of questionable things

[echo junco]

You simply loose too much single with any CT build

[dark token]

i simmed it, this build is 5% worse on bosses but 4% better overall in the dungeon

[tall basalt]

CT felt like a good chunk of my dmg in fort weeks

[dark token]

and on MOST keys you dont need omega single target boss dam

this was tyrannical

i would probably drop Ct on rise/fall

but other keys its pretty troll to not take imo

you lose like 10-15k overall dps for like 5k dps more on bosses

not troll but

suboptimal

[grim tangle]

your overall damage doesn't time keys

[dark token]

your 5k boss dmg doesnt time keys

unless its rise/fall

[grim tangle]

how long did you play sudden demise before converting to the cleave build

wonder how long it'll take you to drop CT too

[dark token]

I still play it on fort

[grim tangle]

one dau you will see the light

[tall basalt]

I dropped CT and lost like 15% dmg last week

[grim tangle]

that's just bad play

[woven frost]

I dropped CT around 20-21 keys. Made a world of difference in higher keys.

[dark token]

Also vast majority of people shouldn't drop it ever

[echo junco]

Looking at overall dmg for keys is bad. Usually your overall dmg comes from mobs that doesnt matter at all for the group. Idk, at higher keys just pumping the prio target with evenoms (spreading garrote on all before) with caustic seems like the play. I think sudden demise build is way more fun tho but after doing 24 keys this week its just bad

[tall basalt]

Idk when u have 5+ targets ct does way more than amp ever would

[dark token]

CT on a single target, in a pack, is similar dmg to amp btw

The gain is only on bosses

Ur extra prio dam is an illusion

[woven frost]

It’s more of output in a confined time frame for prio target. Non-CT builds lets us pump into a prio target faster

[echo junco]

Im usually looking at peoples overall after a dung and they always have absurd dmg on stuff like bats in blackrock or flowers in everbloom. Shit dies either way

[runic hinge]

It's weird people think that trash doesn't matter as if you don't need count for the dungeon too

[lean portal]

so real

[woven frost]

CT is not helpful when the adds are dead before it fully ramps

[dark token]

[lean portal]

our class is good at prio target dmg and boss

and we're trying to pad on dead stuff

its not the way

[dark token]

1. CT doesn't ramp
2. the duration is less than ur cooldowns, so if u ever cooldown any pack CT will have done it's full duration
3. on higher keys packs even the trash mobs like maggots live the full duration, since we are talking high keys (only scenario to take cleave build) your point is irrelevant

[versed mica]

Uhh, the gear compare version of Nick of Time doesn't have timestrike on it, is that going to effect the sim?

[dark token]

If the adds are dead before it ramps

We have a talent for that

It's called sudden demise

[runic hinge]

🤯

[dark token]

At that key level you should take it 100% of time

[woven frost]

I didn’t mean ramp. I meant tick for its full duration. You have to build combo points to throw a CT out. That has to be done before you can go into your KB pump in a priority target. That’s what I’m talking about.

[tall basalt]

Why exactly do you need to CT before KB?

[dark token]

For max damage?

You should be doing that

[tall basalt]

I thought only poisons affected kb

[dark token]

Not max dmg on your KB, having CT running and ticking down, and even refreshing it in KB wundow is more overall damage than just starting kb window and envenoming

Both on ur prio target and on the other 8 targets

[tall basalt]

But pressing CT after KB isnt a damage loss though?

[dark token]

It isn't

As long as you keep up ur envenom stacks

You have the opportunity for a couple other finishers in KB window

[tall basalt]

I see it more of as a filler

[dark token]

It's not a filler it's your highest priority finisher

People playing incorrectly and using it as a filler is why they think it aucks

You use it before snd (unless stuff is being gathered)

Before anything except triple garrote

[tall basalt]

I mean it’s been one of my highest damage spells in keys

[low quartz]

What a joyous day

[raven egret]

ok hear me out... the vault needs a system where you can progressively increase the chance you get a specific piece of gear you want from it. The goal isnt to trivialize it, but ensure that putting in the work every week, you will eventually get one piece you want.

At this rate, so many of us will never see a Mythic Nick of Time, and thats just plain frustrating

that said

[raven egret]

Grats my friend! Happy for you!

[runic hinge]

just loot it wdym

[raven egret]

ye, I'm practicing gitting gud at looting

[runic hinge]

I mean it even says, sooner or later everyone sees it

[echo cargo]

so, essentially, the dinars from shadowlands

[runic hinge]

yeah bring those back so I can have edge of night

[echo cargo]

I agree!

[raven egret]

nah dinars are a shit system imo, leave it to the rng just add rng modifiers

[balmy condor]

but sooner or later, everyone sees the time knife

[echo cargo]

yes! more rng!

[near valley]

Later seems to be the name of my game

[raven egret]

Much later, I'm playing the long game

[runic hinge]

I think that dinars were a fine system, I mean you still had to kill bosses and you still only got the item on base level until you got the upgrade items as well, I think for chase items like weapons and trinkets it wasnt a bad idea

Could it be better? maybe

but it wasn't "shit"

[near valley]

Well tbf this was during the time when edge of night and gavel existed

[raven egret]

Yeah it's about making it better, like with the Dinars, someone getting the drops naturally could then use them for other items, someone unlucky had to use them for the bare minimum. I'd rather a conitinuous way for a someone to chase items though the vault system directly. Food for thoughtss!

[near valley]

So u were literally gimped if that shit never dropped for you in raid

[runic hinge]

Yeah they haven't put any shit that gimped any classes without it in raids this expansion

(hunters in s1 crying)

Not that I care what hunters think

[near valley]

I mean besides nelth trinket on some classes

[storm monolith]

bro i'm sitting here astonished

[near valley]

Generally the feeling of losing out hasn't been bad this season whatsoever

[storm monolith]

a 13 ilvl jump for my bracers is still 1.2% worse than a set piece for my head that matches my current piece in ilvl

and it doesn't even give me the 4pc bonus, it's my third

[raven egret]

I'm feeling pretty damn bad about not being able to hold tightly on a mythic Nicky

I guess the feeling of wanting something and having no realistic way to work toward it except hoping to win the lottery, doesnt feel great as usual

but granted, its not the end of the world

[strange python]

yo, what status' should i use on my life-bound bindings ?

[raven egret]

sim it, whatever stats you are missing, etc.

[slate crown]

Or alternatively

[runic hinge]

There’s a string in #tc-research pins that will let you sim every crafted item individually

[slate crown]

Just pick whatever you want

The difference will be minor

[raven egret]

facts right there

[flat siren]

hey guys, is there a crit/haste/mastery cap for assa raiding?

[runic hinge]

No caps

Just top gear sim yourself and whatever it says is best is the best

[slate crown]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

[raven egret]

Stat balances, especially now that we are solidly within diminishing return range, are very context sensitive. Chance one thing inn your sim and its likely to tell you to gem differently

so use the info of the sim wisely, its right 100% of the time for what you tell it to sim

[near valley]

Fated season gearing will be fun

[raven egret]

I dont wanna think about it

only happy thoughts and smolderon progression now nods

[near valley]

But not as fun as broodkeeper again

[runic hinge]

I can’t wait until I use this anniversary fire neck to proc my eggnog ring so I can run a different embellishment than flaring cowl

[near valley]

Just praying they give goga bonkers tier sets for s4 fun time

[runic hinge]

Last time they used same tier

[raven egret]

I'm quite apprehensive for the fated season and tha "fun" that will come out of it 😛 let me see our hero talents already (and change the name of Fatebound while they are at it)

[runic hinge]

Hoping for something more exciting

[near valley]

Yeah but last time we had only one tier set

Wanna see if they just stick with this one

Let us mix and match

Or something new

My money is on 3

[runic hinge]

Wish we got special daggers at any point this expansion

[raven egret]

hey shhhh if Nicky hears you, you'll hurt its feelings

[runic hinge]

I’m not counting Nick because that’s just like a simple damage proc that isn’t exciting

[near valley]

Nick isn't special?

He'd not like if u said that

Yes but farming edge of night in s3 of SL also wasn't it

[runic hinge]

I already got my myth Nichole fulltime

So it can’t avoid me

[raven egret]

Yeah... and frankly as I said above, someone getting it dropped naturally could use their dinar for other fun stuff instead, I didnt like the dinar as for the rest of us we had no flexibility to have fun with em

[raven egret]

Tell it I said Hi... and I hope to see it soon

[runic hinge]

I hope you do too. And tbh to get it I just pretended I had no hope and didn’t care if I ever saw one

[raven egret]

I took a socket today

[runic hinge]

Same

The real key was two weeks ago I crafted a 486 dagger

A week later it’s in my vault to mock me

[raven egret]

Maybe thats what I should do. craft a bait dagger, make it jealous

[runic hinge]

The reason I wasn’t hesitant to craft was my flavor pocket was on that dagger so I thought I’d be saving gold on my long wait

[royal lantern]

thats litearllly every single "special weapon" ever you doofus

fuck "special weapons"

[runic hinge]

I want something even more exciting. Maybe I’ll go play cata classic

[balmy condor]

Playing classic in a search for exciting stuff will humble you real quick

[runic hinge]

Yeah. I remember what it was like when it was current and the best part of cata was feral being op in pvp

Could kill someone in your pounce stun

Also I hate leveling. Theres no way I’m going back to any time before it was super easy

I like the way it is now where there’s a coherent and connected campaign and when you finish, bam you’re max level.

[slate crown]

Classic now only has the possibility of being exciting if you've already been playing classic. If you don't already have an established gold pool (and aren't willing to spend $ on tokens) it's joever for you before you even start. The entire economy and raiding ecosystem is completely foreign to any sense of interesting progression anymore

[royal lantern]

aka

just like it was back in the days

[floral shoal]

Diners should allow us to update any old item to current ilvl

[quiet oar]

Thats only for Legendaries

[royal lantern]

^

[quiet oar]

Or it was

in SL

[floral shoal]

I have tons of old trinkets in my bank

[quiet oar]

I you hope to upgrade them

[slate crown]

It's different. Before gold was a prerequisite for consumables and other general preparations for entering the raid, but once you were in the raid, it took a backseat. Now, it's literally an entrance fee and fee on every piece of loot, and if you don't have it for a piece of loot you want, you aren't getting it if anyone else wants it, period.

[quiet oar]

there is alot of

[slate crown]

And if you don't have the gold or the gear to begin with, you won't even get an invite, you are only invited either A) because you have gold you can spend, or B) you're already geared and can carry the buyers

[west skiff]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[vestal wren]

nice wa pack you have there

[slate crown]

IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB

[sonic hollow]

is gearing 2 different specs (outlaw and ass) going to be as aids as i expect it to be

[simple gulch]

delete nick of time

[balmy condor]

if you care a ton about 3% or whatever then yeh I guess

[sonic hollow]

[balmy condor]

bout as aids as it would be to make any second set of gear

[simple gulch]

Still no nick of time

[sonic hollow]

nicholas of time

[ashen rover]

[balmy condor]

good socket vault I guess

[sonic hollow]

[balmy condor]

or pips if you don't have and love m+

[ashen rover]

yeah i took pip cause i didnthave it but well...

[balmy condor]

hey, you got to take an item

that's a win

[ashen rover]

true lmao

[simple gulch]

wish the item that shows up would be nick of itme

time

[ashen rover]

[simple gulch]

im starting to think it's never gonna drop

[sonic hollow]

the desire system has kicked in

[simple gulch]

what system?

[balmy condor]

the desire system

he just said it

[sonic hollow]

oh

i meant desire sensor

[balmy condor]

think I'm even more confused

but yeh right crackin joke mate innit

[sonic hollow]

have none of you played monster hunter

[balmy condor]

sounds like a pretty lazy name for a game

I'm guessing you hunt monsters?

[sonic hollow]

something like that

[balmy condor]

call me sherlock holmes

[sonic hollow]

sorry sherlock holmes isnt public domain yet