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if you dm first intermission you don't have it for 2nd intermission 
you do with autumn
With autmn you do
but yes without hpal you give up 2nd intermission
and DM the 3rd
with lust
and it's still bad
Just play sub
when you can press N activate sub and do more damage
i'm bad at sub
how
Ye
it's a loop bro
i haven't read the loop
or pushed the loop buttons
I played like 2 ptr keys on sub
then never specd back into it

yeah dust in keys is kinda cringe
timings can get all fucked up
I'd rather play in traffic
this was on ptr
but I appreciate your suggestion
we didn't know sub was gonna be cheeks
@steel parcel Yeah, garrote garrote CT works beautifully
I like bursting
Like the lows of sub
i think i've aquired enough pirate gear to try it
wild
but i really don't wanna
this man will play outlaw in keys
but won't play sub for smolderon
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE
One trick doesn’t play outlaw
Nah you not
keys aren't real
Just say ur allergic to damage
You played sub last season
It’s okay lil bro
You get the one trick badge when you’ve never done a key as a different spec
@keen spruce
you tryin to take away my one trick badge?

don't look at last season
@blazing jewel would like this too
Yeah you’re not a one trick bozo
mad at me cause I broke the meta once
playing my main spec
fuckin nerd
I wish you’d just call me the meta tbh
loved that competition
the boys played what we normally play
Blasted
any of yall know how to transmog the legendary cata daggers ?
for some reason the OH dagger doesnt show up in the options
yeah it's like slightly smaller
ah didnt realize u could right click it ty
yeah usually the left one is a little bigger

Amen brother
just like irl
The skeleton crew lives



best I got is my sub badge
hey that's pretty good
I can prolly find the high quality one and add it to the server for you
but that's only cause you're my friend and ily

Dog you should call her
we all know how much oxi loves anduin


it's kinda not. having to do like 5 abilities between gcds during smold intermission during the little openers
versus what
I still got to experience the kyber "kill all the anduin adds in <5s"
no shot
just muscle memory. played sin this whole tier so the sequence takes zero thought for me. but starting sub on smold and pressing 11 buttons over 5 gcds was difficult lol and i feel like thats reasonable
I mean that's just inherently not a true statement
sub has 4 buttons off the GCD in its opener
dance, symbols, blades, and coldblood
and cb is macro'd into sectech
do you not press those for assassination?
and also you can macro ashes to sectech
so
not consecutively like this
its macroed. but macroing ashes to sectech would likely use it when you dont mean to on a non-intermission moment
Clean
unless you mean a totally separate ashes+sectrech keybind
also unless you're playing double on-use
it's almost impossible to use ashes at the "wrong time"
This is sus af
why is that sus af
so like 90% of people I am playing double on use yes
Because you use sectech after 2 mins have gone since last ashes use, but before blades is back up
hey why's this look better than my in game one
weird
I miss her
this
Yes you sync it with cb/sectech but during flag/blades
If you won't lose a use
Not to mention you sectech without cold blood often
And a macro could use ashes there
you can macro it but then you'll use it outside of intermission and thats a pointless waste
Same brother
yeah and my aunt could have balls and be my uncle
^
For me I just have them in similar keys, sectech is X and ashes is alt + X
So it's like a double tap
Yall using Bark and Ashes in M+ or just one and passive?
For sin no
Just one + crab rn


all I'm saying is doing this routine is physically more demanding than sin's opener lol
u got something against crab?
We all return to crab
Maybe because you are more used to the sin opener?
it's 100% because he's more used to the sin opener
yeah of course, but its also just way more buttons crammed into a shorter time frame
Like its always harder
but yes most is muslce memory
Damn I ain’t reading this essay
But thats how practice works
Is Tempest mandatory in M+ now? Sins feels really bad since nerfs and trying new things to avoid swapping out Outlaw
Nah shit is easy
Macro blades, dance, sod and potion together
Ez

my friends and brothers. im not saying "the opener is SO difficult that Ii cant possibly do it help". im saying "its more involved than sin's"
No. Bleed build is more overall but less prio/boss damage
thats all lol
Just depends what you're going for
it's all easy, just press the right buttons at the right time
u r dum n stink
Just press Buttons man
!!
A lot of people have problems with using Shiv, Tea and Vanish during KB.
Difficulty is subjective
Amen
that's why it's so noteworthy that you're still stinky
tracking flag, sod, vanishes, blades, dance, rupture, and slice and dice is maad fun, then when danse procs do ss+ev+bs+ev+ss sectech+cb is just insane. i love sin 100x more
I think Sub opener is easier to pull off personally
I’ll fight a duck, shmeeps
butttt f me right
It flows very well
playing assassination on smolderon + L + ratio + ur a duck lmao + ur stanky + rip bozo + didn't ask + don't care + you probably played moonkin in a past life + ur dumb lol
okay it's all good fun until you call someone a moonkin

I mean Ducks arent far off of moonkins
tbh
Better than playing outlaw on tindral
I used this gif with our moonkin and a few weeks later he left the guild
doin gods work

just so im not misunderstanding the information im reading and the sims i launched... augury isnt that good for assassination correct?
correct
@gusty mirage ty
is there a way to sim poisons?
i guess it then begs the question is augury good for any spec?
essentially if it isn't branch (or ashes, but branch is better damage ashes is less brainpower), sandglass/pips/crab/signet you don't care about it
Its good for DH and Fire mages afaik
and some tanks
Augury is a prayer in Runescape
good rule of thumb... thanks!

are spiders bugged on last boss Atal? Literally defy physics these things
Ok are spiders insected on last boss?
Just feel like stacking on tank is not 100%
well like
Spider hardly even know er
Banned
Blocked
Reported to discord for terrorism

I ressed, no spiders, move, get blasted by purple blast
Ill handle the terrorism, dont worry
12 minutes to spare on a 23 and we didnt time it
they are magicaly summoned ghosts/spirits from the power of the Loa of Spiders, idk if they follow the law of physics tbh

The federal bureau of investigation has entered the chat 
We’re spending all season getting blasted by purple on Details boss, we should be used to it by now
see!
hows prog btw? I almost joined your guild this season lol
Yeah I remember. We took way too long on larodar and nymue, but we did ok on smolderon
aka we slipped from us 120 to us 160, then went back to us 120
nice thats lit
what guild are you in now
SDS-thrall
(i miss us)
The best raiding experience ive had imo
Dagger to the heart man
Hi, I'm new at wow. I started leveling a rogue sin, I'm currently level 31 and leveling mostly through dungeons. However, I find that I'm almost always 3rd at dmg, barely above the tank if at all. In single targets I work better, but in AoE, I'm always behind. I spam Fan of Knives and I use the AoE spender aswell, but still lack damage. Am I just playing wrong (like, I'm new, of course I am, but how should I be playing when >2 ads)? Does the spec lack AoE dmg when played at high level too? In that case I'd assume it isn't that good at high level. Sorry for the wall.
At level 31 youre 100% missing core aoe talents in the tree
Assa has real good aoe
So I got my myth Nichole fulltime today but I crafted a dagger 2 weeks ago because it had my flavor pocket on it 
And I thought I’d never see one
suffering from success

Just pulled a Mydas from vault, feel like it’s a sign to switch to Outlaw, but I really do prefer Sin. Torn
Yeah, you're missing a lot of your aoe, Crimson tempest IS nice for a bit of AOE, but a lot of your damage will also come when you can spread out garrotes everywhere
what talents we use this week?
sub is better for leveling since it has more immediate damage with black powder (aoe finisher)
sin is damage over time-based and you don't get access to a talent that makes it easier in leveling dungeons for a while
Yeah leveling dungeons with sin will be painful
In open world they're both great though
I prefer sin for open world because sub's happy-fun-time button is too strong
I used dance and the mob falls over and it all gets wasted, having to try to aoe as much as I can but stuff just evaporates
off-topic but sin in timewalking is hilarious
there's some weird scaling business going on that makes sudden demise do 10 billion damage
I wonder if the calculation is using unscaled bleed damage values or something lol
Now I have to spend another 60k gold
It’s a tragedy really
my first 19
Grats
!fuu
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!up
It is, same as caustic
Caustic has some limits though
But it’s got funky scaling with outdoor level scaling things
Sudden demise is raw unscaled calc I believe
I bet the current talents make mage tower so easy
Very Cool 😎
as long as the instance doesnt bug and freak out, the tower is quite chill

oh rly? ... xd
I know
I was just spamming for trink
I have around 45 runs this season
meanwhile I can be capping vault, I know it does not depend on the loot
after 47 runs I didn't, I don't think tomorrow in vault is the moment, but thaanks
if i add a socket to my wrists, does it disappear if I recraft?
Only if your changing from last seasons spark to this seasons.
thanks
Excuse me
I just counted it
52 runs
check it here
Damn you sure love that dungeon
but yeah, got 4x gloves, 5xshoulders, 3x chest, 3x helmet
and 0 trinkets ^^
Yes I do 😄 (no)
It's really pissing me off but meh... what u gonna do
rng issues
We're back to DTB for M+ instead of AP? When did that change
and what you want for which dungeon
yaay, I played those for the tyrannical
220 k overall
for a 470 with no shit on best in slot
not bad
well good night, if u don't mind I'll share my 3 shit loots on here tomorrow
bb
Like its 4 items
In the loot table
Have you just tried
Looting the Trinket
Like Fr

fu besh
hahahahaa
.I.
I know it man, just always unlucky on whaat I want on this game
happened 15 years ago, it's still happening now
Always Nichole full time
What if you already have 2
Sooner or later everyone sees the time knife
where should we craft alchemical flavor pocket? cloak or ring?
i mean like in a full gear setup would it be better on rin or cloak
It was dreamcarver
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Are peeps liking ashes/hour glass over branch and pips in keys?
Branch and pips should be bis key setup
I’ve noticed some peeps not use branch and opt for ashes instead. Pips is prob more of a don’t have it angle
only reason to not use branch is for the ease of use
@balmy condor Hey, there is a chance for u to make a WA for pool energy same as u did for sin rogue but for outlaw or sub?. It helps a lot when u have to swap specs in keys.
whats the command on wcl to see damage to shield on tindral
not sure I understand the question, couple of things that confuse me:
- outlaw and sub don't pool, so what would that show?
- "when u have to swap specs in keys", you realize that it's a tool to practice, it's not supposed to be used in actual gameplay and isn't a rotation helper, right?
should be absorbeddamage>0
anyone else simming vers gems and enchants? seems odd
My ring craft wanted me to do verse mastery
I didn’t tho because it was only like 100 dps more than the missive I already had in
is there an easy way to sim all crafting stats options?
very normal
I went in tc research and grabbed the thing to put crafted items in your top gear and simmed that way
Should be in the pins there
ah sweet ty
cool felt a bit weird but i hadnt checked in a couple weeks
Since I was crafting a ring I just went and found the ring section and copy and pasted that
My rings were not upgraded hero track so it was a decent bit of damage
ah then yeah
for sanguine blades do we wanna try and sit above 50% energy or just send abilities when possible (single target)
!pooling
Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back
- If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
- Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
- Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
- With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
oh wow i think i just realised how CT works
damage x3
!dagger
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finally got one, im going critter to help healers parse lmao
!dagger
surely
Yo uh
Outlaw is kinda cracked
I was on my mistweaver and had two in my group in a key (I think it was 13 I don't remember). Bro they have got so many goddamn buttons and effects its insane. I'm over here losing my mind having to listen to all the dice rolls
Every attack sounds like they're either firing an 8 gauge or beating some poor sod eith a baseball bat because he owes them money
outlaw's main spec design is "fast"
.1% DPS loss worth the HPS from the ouroboros neck shield?
Were progging mythic (prob won't get past 6) and pushing 23s
yo where do u guys find the mechanical enemy for dagger lol
Training dummies
oh. shit didnt think of that
it's a 100k shield with a min cd that only works on fire dmg, so it isn't very impactful. If you are only loosing .1% dps sure use it, but the effect is very negligible overall.
!wa
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
no
the shield on that thing sucks
ty gang ❤️
Hey Whispyr, can you post your DM, Pot, Trinket macro? I cant recall what vid i saw it in. but i liked how you had it compared to what i am using
I simmed it again (was in M+ Hybrid when I simmed it so smooth brained )and it was a .3% dps increase (best from my vault), so may take it anyway.
/cast Deathmark
/use Fleeting Elemental Potion of Ultimate Power
/use Fleeting Elemental Potion of Power
/use Elemental Potion of Ultimate Power
/use Elemental Potion of Power
/use 13
/use 14
/w Mayceia pi```
Thank you!
if you use ashes you want to move the /use 13 /use 14 to your dance+kb macro
kk, I still press those individually still
I was thinking about using ashes for M+
would it still be used for SD and KB?
yeh
thanks!
Ty for everything
Ty for spaghetti profile pic
banger pic
pips or signet?
for what situation
stabbing things
aight well
that's not really helpful towards helping you
so I'm just gonna say pips
yeh
m+
signet is much better in the situation where its good
and much worse in the situations where it's not good
need a longer fight
and no fight breaks
so like a 3 min heroic smolderon kill, or m+? shit trinket
but like mythic fyrakk prog? mythic smolderon prog? signet big
so when im chaining, do i just spam envenom until i cant then wait until im back to max energy or is there a specific energy im looking to start the chain at again
is 11% haste bad
larodar it's fine, nymue has breaks so it's bad, smolderon very good, kinda unsure on Tindral probably bad, Fyraak insane
truly a question for the ages
Doesn’t matter
%s don’t matter. Nothing matters. Just follow the robot our goat
Play better
vault is full of garbage 
hmmmm
26 ilvl increase on cape or wyrm crests from coins............
gotta go with cape. most of my stuff is already maxed on wyrm crests anyways
can anyone explain the tier set to me like im 3
Which part
you want to cast envenom while envenom is still up
thats why "pooling" exists cause if you can't build cp to cast envenom while the debuff is still up, you aren't using your tier
You're too young to play wow, go take a nap. When you wake up we can make chicken nuggies.
bros bissed out
call me Bisstopher Nolan
got ilvl under your tree this year

Totally off-topic, but offhandedly curious to hear what people think: if you had to pick the best M+ group comp for how y'all personally like to play Assa, what would it be?
Bisstopher Nolan
Ok
I’m dumb nm
made me breathe slightly harder than normal
Np but also mb for not clarifying -- I'm curious what people lean toward personally enjoying. Frex I like running with VDH and Fire, but haven't really considered my preference for the other two options.
Vdh, enh, Aug, disc me
I don’t think enhance takes wf in keys tho so maybe I’m replacing that with something else
I think I love Aug when we know/trust the player, but Fire all the way if it's a total pug
anyone know of a panther mount that isn't the jewelcrafting ones?
only thing i can find is this kind of underwhelming one from Zul Garub
oh good lord that's 2 months of prep work lol
Yeah. I should get back to it
Looks so good
Warden transmog in like 6 days too
Ooooweee
Would be styling
Off topic, but what other specs feel as good to play as assassination’s gameplay?
I lean towards whatever pug grp will invite me
Yeah
sub feels fun to play personally, but assassin feels the most fluid
Sub is more versatile imo
outlaw is a real clusterfuck i'll be honest. like, there's probably a flow state you have to be in to play outlaw well
But OL doesn’t die
!wa
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
Ashes is just a macro to kingsbane angle right?
so my guild was trolling a bit we had like 6 nymue wipes
and last pull i went "fuck it im swapping branch off and going ashes" and i get a 99

godamn yazma is so aids
ye
other way around
maybe its just a placebo in my mind
that i played well and just happened to have ashes on that pull

Spiked Counterweight 
Vice versa
what % of your dmg should be from sanguine blades assuming you have 99% uptime on a boss?
Does it matter
You don't play around it
Idk why people are obsessed with dmg breakdowns rather than rotational mistakes
well I'm asking because I want to know if I can optimize my dps further
I'm always low on energy cuz I'm using stuff off cooldown but the talent is supposed to be the opposite of that
yet I'm still able to parse 90+ on bosses, so I wanna know if that talent matters a lot to getting my parse up to a 99 for example
?
you dont play around sanguine with 4p
the damage breakdown is irrelevant its all passive damage when ur reseting ur envenom windows

Dmg breakdowns don't often tell u much about if u are playing rotation correctly
can i link a log here to have someone give me pointers?
And in this case you don't play around sanguine at all so
Sure
i dont understand why my kingsbane windows are lower then a lot of parses
I will do after raid. Thank you!
I may be asleep. Just ping me worst case I’ll check in the morning 🫡
Im aware there is a damage amp here but im just looking for help in my cooldown windows regardless of timing them

the fk is this trinket?
ember of nullification
first time i see it kekw
is it good for any rogue spec?
i guess is not xD
my guild's most recent log doesnt have any parses
is this a site bug or?
are we on a new partition?
if you'd like to
it's okay, just a stat stick
no
any ideas as to why there aren't any parses?
skill issue
:(
Guess I got very lucky
indeed you did
heyoooo welcome to the 489 Witherbark's exclusive club
and grats!
Thanks, now I def don't need to debate whether I should use ashes
Right now for me its the wait for the Mythic Nick of Time. I dont have much hope but, vault could bless me with it any week I suppose
yeh I'm basically in the same spot
need 2 more tier pieces
and then it's just vault waiters
my token likes dropping the same slots every week
I'm really damn happy we got catalyst charges early, cause token wise my raid has no been blessed for my token
Ok rings/necks ig
Imo they should turn off tier drops after a character accumulates 4 catalyst charges or 4set or something
I quit playing 1 and a haalf year, all guildies stopped playing 3 months ago and I just have time on weekends
so, no:(
Was hoping to get some help with logs especially for volc, first raid on this character. Just an alt I was filling in for someone on but any help would be appreciated
I am sleep but will do I am
Just out of curiosity how much value is there in upgrading branch from hero to myth? Does it give a noticeable amount more mastery or just a lil more base agi on the trinket?
Both I think but I only have hero branch currently
Heya. When is too much mastery a bad thing ? I am 61%.
When it sims less than an item that doesn’t give mastery
Thanks ...
Hate to be that guy again but just sim your gear there’s no percent or target number
I’m not sure what you want me to tell you. You give us your mastery percentage with not only no other context of your gear but stats in general. The answer you want isn’t binary of you have too much or too little
Thank you
It mainly revolved around diminishing returns when you passed certain percentage thresholds on secondary stats.
if a stat is really strong the drs usually arent enough to suddenly make it bad
either way, we dont know the numbers off the top of our heads thats why we ask the robots
especially for assa this patch since mastery purely depends if youre using branch or not
Usually when u get branch mastery stat drops, so in that particular case the go to is to sim, sadly. It depends on your other stats
Anyway, if you are at 61 with the branch, I think that’s too high
Thanks ... I will sim some more.
Yw 🙂
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
yes lul
Start working on that outlaw set
Xe I got 2. I’m sorry
I mean 1 on 2 different vaults
if your bleeds are bout to run out, do you refresh them even if it means dropping an envenom chain then pool to envenom chain again, or prioritize keeping envenom up?
always bleeds
tyvm!
unless its an aoe scenario where mobs are close to dieing I guess
makes sense ty
I'm REALLY confused. mr robot default raiding sim is showing a 431 fystias fiery krys as better than my 463 nick of time in offhand ..
Working well I can see 😂😂
oh no hes arrived

I'm not even mad
Whys is probably mostly machine but that doesnt make him a robot
tldr: ask mr. robot hasnt been accurate since like 2017 the earliest
dam. now i do feel old
you just watch it from afar
so educate and old tired sick gamer dad. what "easy" sim should i be using ?
raidbots
heard
!simguide
Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights
For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.
it looks a lot at first but its quite easy once you get the basic hang of it
has it really only been 6 years since ask mr robot imploded
I might have been rounding in the wrong direction, I remember in legion people still used local simc
not sure when raidbots really started popping off
yeah I mean amr sucked during wod even right
I remember a guildmate in blackrock foundry telling me it was sus as fuck
one of my earliest memories of sims in general
weird thing is im pretty sure i was using raidbots in season 1 , but somehow my addons disabled it and robot was back.
i found my email invite to the original friends and family alpha last night. thats somehow worse

I found a reddit thread from 10 years ago where they were praising amr but also saying it's finnicky and there's a couple people here pointing out simcraft to get more accurate numbers to then plug into amr
holy this is so jank
sim first for stat weights -> enter stat weights into AMR -> AMR spits out more accurate gear recommendations
it's like pawn with extra steps
what a wild journey
I think I used amr in FL but I could be wrong
any one going to play cata classic just for reliving fangs nostalgia ?
What's the best way to reapply rupture without dropping envenom buff during downtime?
Yeah, that's one choice, but is there a way to prep so you don't lose envenom. Maybe envenom at 6cp and in those 8s of envenom buff reapply rupture and keep up envenom?
yeah that's the ideal scenario but eventually you'll have to pool energy to prepare for the next kingsbane window and you're probably going to have envenom buff drop when pooling anyway
🤓 7.8 sec*
;p lisonna you nerd haaha

I think ur dad has to get a job at blizzard
Pffff man I have easier than him, he’s 70
ageism :(
u gotta
back to the everbloom mines with you
Don’t u have the f**** trinket either?
??
me have
?
😦 come with me so you can loot it for me
I use ashes because I’m too stupid for branch
Well I don’t have tine for raid so..
Time*
I raid one night a week for 3 hours.
Can’t do that, need to sleep
@desert inlet spotted o3o
I was thinking on joining a weekend raid, but nobody does
I found a Sunday night guild but just for aotc
I mean I just want to beat heroic, no need to mythic

Hery wtf that’s just ehat I want
I just want hc runs fast and easy
We haven’t cleared yet but probably soon
U NA or EU?
i need to find a west coast night raiding group 😕 been in my guild for 23 years(yes were older than wow) but they raid when im at work these days
NA
Yay, I’d like to find somth that raids 2-3 hours clear hc and ggs
I’m from Spain, different schedules I guess
Makes sense
I’ll try to find smth after christmas, on raiderio or warcraftlogs
!whispyr
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hey fellow rogues 🙂 which talents are you speccing this week for m+?
Cleave always, just feels right
How good is Signet? I got one in the vault but not sure just how good it is for Sin
sim it
or check wcl
and see what trinkets people run
for fights
the fight has to be longer than 3 minutes
or you have to do an m+ dungeon and never encounter 15 seconds of downtime
wowhead made an entire article on the trinket
I only run cleave on like 3 dungeons on high tyran 
for me it was AP always, just feels right
until last week then i needed to boss slammage
it's quite good for long single target encounters
even bis
but it's not super flexible
ok, thanks
I am always checking out the TOP mythic kills to see on which encounter most of the rogues are using it.
It's mostly used(higher %) on Larodar, Nymue, Tindral and Fyrakk(as first or the second trinket).
well if you only have a heroic, you still probably take mythic pips over it
and it's not going in the active slot over ashes or branch
so it really depends onw hat you've got access to
Surprised they use it on Tindral, given the downtime in that fight
Are we playing Hyrbid this week?
Hybrid or Arterial are cool this week, yeah 😄
It's a great trinket tbh. Sometimes sims higher than 483ilvl signet/sandglass
think I'm looking at a socket angle today sadly

...
- 3 Nicks just sitting in bag 😂
Did 8x +20-22 Fall last week for the trinket(it dropped on the last), got 2x Nick of Time and now in the Vault, Blizzard thought I was targeting the dagger lol
I'm mainly running 18-20 for vault, and cleave feels awesome. Altought I tried outlaw this week and yeah I'll be playing outlaw in m+ now xDD
is the patchwerk 5min sim still viable for 6/9 reclean ?
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Why is wafting devotion better than sophic by a seemingly large margin - a 489 wep from a 483 is a mild downgrade just because of the enchant diff according to raidbots
Main stat and secondaries have relative power that changes when one or all get to higher values
we're just reaching a point where the secondaries on wafting perform better than the main stat on sophic
depends on your gear
just got so much more main stat now so it makes the main stat proc weaker relatively, remember how big sophic procs in dance were for sub in vault
its not like they arent anymore
Fair enough, its a big upgrade still for sub but its forcing me to run two sets of daggers
I have mainhand with sophic
and 2 offhands with wafting and sophic each
thats like 500 dps worse in sin gear
I forgot how cool the mop CM set was
I'm big sad that i was such a scrub back then

and never got that set
rip
yeah i'm wondering
with the trading post thingy
if it will be in the
and I'll feel giga bad
timerunning pandamonium
or there ye
if they bring back those sets
I'd really dig it if they brought back cm
they already brought them back right
in general
wasnt it legion order hall
Im using this set for 10 years now
is the 5min patchwerk sim still viable for a 6/9 reclean ?
my favorite sets are T3/mop CM/Mage tower
There's event called "Pandamonium"(?) in 10.2.7, so I guess they may bring them back with recolors or something different, just as they did with the Mage Tower
its a sim for gearing choices
for ST
Maybe HD versions
in general
of the sets
yeah but as we kill boss maybe quicker
t3 ❤️
So the "OG" sets are still for those who did it back then
Id love to see T2 in HD
this
so you answered your question yourself
have you seen the HD paladin T2?
just sim with less time
The guy who made that banger should make a rogue T2 in HD too
yeah, looks cool 😄
bet he would make it look insane
ngl rogue sets usually are on the better side
warrior looks ass most of the time
dh looks weird
mage is kinda uh
Kinda culty
time for some double rogue shennanigans
Mage T3
probably my favorite of all time
But mage sets are super hit or miss
Ulduar mage set without robe looks sick too
always that 1% chance you dont
and the responsibilities i put off today
will be that much more pressing

so if i just don't bedge
and keep doin keys
those tuesday keys big importance 
i can delay
@balmy condor I feel weird about this trinket, but it sims highest both in Dungeon Slice and ST...
I compared Pips, Sandglass, Fractured Times and Ashes.
Do I take it?
are the other trinkets also myth track?
No, 483.
brother probably low on vers
did you sim top gear with all variables?
I think I'll just go with Socket this week.
but idk seems pretty competative
this is against myth pip or myth sandglass
with pi
Yeah but the proc is pretty useless..
seems not that bad 
yeah but it's just got a bunch of stats on it
fo free
without the proc
I mean yeh, it’s a stat stick that gives vers, if vers is a good stat for you and it’s higher ilvl than your alternatives then it’ll be good
Kinda just how stats work
Yeah my verse is very bad, 8.5%
Probably thats why.. .
That’s not that bad
But yeh idk
Check your gems and enchants for vers
See if it’s just a crazy good stat for you right now
Then recheck the trinket

You did that for me last time and we needed Haste enchants and crit gems 🙂
those sims for mine was at almost 18% vers
It’s not bis but 6 ilvl in the less important trinket slot when it’s a good stat
Easily can win out
i'd imagine if i was comparing it against 483 trinkets it'd still win
Such is life man I swapped legs today and regemmed everything for vers crit
that trinket sims 1k lower than equal item level sandglass for me, 7k worse than equal item level branch
at 9% vers
Well yeh it’s not competing for the active slot
ye depends on all of your other stats
ofc yeah
But like I said
It’s just passive stats
If those passive stats are good
It’s good
If they’re not
It’s not
I hate stat weights but it makes it really obvious in this example, let’s say his vers value is 10, and yours is 7.5
That thing has what
700 vers?
Yeh that’s a swing of 1750 dps
weights SOMEWHAT usable here because you're not replacing a secondary with another
still scale factors mess up the actual value
but i see your point
Same item, just difference in value between two people
And when we’re comparing items for fucking like 70 dps
Now it swings almost 2k
It’s gonna be weird
The effect is really cool, though I feel like usually it'l just grief your kick
I actually didn't realize how close it simmed. I gave one away to some grubby pug last week
seems kind nice in m+ tbh, even if it randomly yoinks like one interrupt or somethin

I love socketing versatility
Vers good stat
Vers trinket good trinket
Math is checking out
Another successful day for numbers
I fucking hate numbers
I changed my details reporting to "big damage" and "small damage"
Number have the worst PR for good reason
Just remove all numbers from details, it’s about how long the bar is anyway
I haven't played WoW in like 3 days and I'm having anxiety tremors
Sounds unhealthy
Yeah
Truer words have never been spoken
Fuck Aug Evoker
Have you simmed your health
Should I quit wow or play more?
i'm stayin at my moms for a few weeks over the holidays
and I ahve absolutely fking destroyed her data
but she worked in IT her whole career
so she's texting me daily comcast usage printouts
basically doin this
asking if we're gonna mke it to january
Bruh
My health is negative. IRL regen is whack. Spent all day in bed and I still feel like I'm going to die.
Race change to troll
So you can regenerate 5 HP per second
And there's nothing anyone can do about it
dumbass
I am a troll though
Aight well if you’ve been in bed all day and still feel like you’re going to die, maybe try the opposite and go on a 3-5 hour hike tomorrow
shmeeps cranking that 1440p 60fps streams for hours for sure
Just check whispyr's deleted messages log
Rip
I just forgot that people like.. haven't complained to comcast until they give you an unlimited plan

also obligatory comcast lmao
Do not
!bitrate
Whispyr how many deleted messages have I sent? Is there a way to count those?
comcast always been very good to me 
but ig it's relative
Oh no

He's going to see hundreds and ban me











