#assassination

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desert inlet
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packs have too many thing 4 me

spice spire
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Sorry idk weeb

strange trail
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can they explain this to me like im 5

spice spire
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Probably? She knows her stuff

blazing jewel
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LE could program an ai to destroy the planet but they make smelly WAs to play the game for us

spice spire
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Real

junior yoke
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43 total runs, still no trinket

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spice spire
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Next run

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Surely

strange trail
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I think I undstand this one? she has the important abilies that need to be tracked on standalone

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as well

junior yoke
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funny fact is I looted gloves, shoulders, helmet and chest like x3-4 every single of them

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šŸ™‚

strange trail
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that one is the improved garrote snapshot

desert inlet
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oo yeah that'll be what the next gcd option was for

strange trail
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maybe the whole package is too much for brain, and its overwhelming it. I'm gonna just download the standalones that she has

spice spire
devout karma
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what is that pack ?

spice spire
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
spice spire
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Leā€™s Group

desert inlet
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still don't know what the orange tick does tho

spice spire
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Iā€™m not convinced the orange exists

strange trail
strange trail
spice spire
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I am literally being gaslit

strange trail
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trust me

spice spire
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(Iā€™m colorblind)

desert inlet
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did you not have 4p on

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oh

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learn to see colors, stinky

spice spire
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Dog?

blazing jewel
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Those arenā€™t good at seeing colors

spice spire
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Iā€™m amazed I see the red since itā€™s RG. But yeah. Literally cannot see the orange

blazing jewel
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You all need to turn colorblind mode on for tindral itā€™s great

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The entire platform becomes slime green and the laser beams are hot pink

spice spire
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Colorblind mode is a mind fuck man

desert inlet
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that sounds weird

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me no like

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how many panera lemonades does it take to kill u again

blazing jewel
spice spire
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?

blazing jewel
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Donā€™t they have like 400mg of caffeine

desert inlet
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I think so

blazing jewel
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Maybe 4?

spice spire
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I think it was described as a healthy amount

desert inlet
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I only have 2

spice spire
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I had a gram of caffeine one day and could hear color

blazing jewel
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The heart is a muscle you have to work it out

spice spire
strange trail
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found what it means

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desert inlet
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y do you keep talking about dogs

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I like cats

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oh neat

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good job reading

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reading hard

blazing jewel
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Where boots

desert inlet
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he sleep

blazing jewel
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Thatā€™s a good dog

spice spire
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Look at my pfp dude?

strange trail
spice spire
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Also dog very generic term that I can use for everyone.
Hmm

desert inlet
spice spire
desert inlet
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I should make that an emote too

spice spire
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Honestly? yeah I laugh at it every time I see it kekdog

devout karma
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Still cant find wa which count garrotes on all targets

slate crown
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We all good?

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Seems resolved?

strange trail
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thank you!

spice spire
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Sorry for the ping

slate crown
spice spire
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Still donā€™t believe orange exists

desert inlet
# devout karma Still cant find wa which count garrotes on all targets

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try that

slate crown
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Discord pings are silent for me so itā€™s fine

spice spire
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Bless

desert inlet
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maybe you didn't like the shower orange because you can't see orange

slate crown
spice spire
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Real

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I wanted to like the shower orange

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Iā€™m sorry homie

desert inlet
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at least it still smelled good

slate crown
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Iā€™m on my phone but yah a multi-target aura with a text that pulls %matchCount (canā€™t format code on mobile) will show number of targets

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If thatā€™s what you did

desert inlet
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ye

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did unitcount

slate crown
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That works too

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Yeah the orange color on the tick

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Isnā€™t great

blazing jewel
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When do you develop open AI 2

slate crown
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Idn, green for envenom bar is just bad

blazing jewel
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But the rogue version

slate crown
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For colorblind

spice spire
slate crown
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But itā€™s envenom so

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Itā€™s green

spice spire
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Idk why the orange is the issue

strange trail
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would you recommend keeping the 'track next casts?' checked, under custom options for the garrote and rupture stand alone auras?

slate crown
spice spire
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Usually itā€™s red/green.
But orange would make sense

slate crown
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But itā€™s hard, hence why the kingsbane timer has an icon setting

spice spire
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This is also why I could never make weak auras

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Iā€™d say just say fuck those kids

slate crown
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Yeah there are a few different colorblind pairings

balmy condor
slate crown
spice spire
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Idk man

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I got nothing

slate crown
feral mason
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you tend on my bar until I er

grim jay
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quite something

spice spire
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Jealousy is a disease, get well soon xoxo

grim jay
slate crown
spice spire
balmy condor
slate crown
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(Or rather, handling the edge case of when to stop glowing when your next GCD will fall outside of dance/subt)

spice spire
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God ur so real for that

slate crown
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That specifically is a nightmare

desert inlet
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yeah that's the kind of thing where I say is good enough

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and give up

grim jay
spice spire
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Iā€™m so sorry man

balmy condor
feral mason
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ā¤ļø

desert inlet
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im sorry

spice spire
slate crown
balmy condor
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But Iā€™m sorry to hear it

spice spire
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Hugging you from across the pond. I lost mine this year and Iā€™m so sorry because itā€™s awful.

slate crown
spice spire
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Thereā€™s nothing positive to say when you lose a friend.
Iā€™ll say I made the thread to help cope with it, and it did help.
But it takes time

balmy condor
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@blazing jewel

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feral mason
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shit fuck shit

balmy condor
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Same

grim jay
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thanks fam
atleast he isnt in pain anymore. feels pretty weird to not have him here for christmas. he went from top fit to yesterday in like a week

strange trail
oak tangle
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i've never owned pets myself, but we lost my brother's kelpie to lymph node cancer this year, that sucked

haughty palm
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Any idea why vicious venoms isnā€™t used? In theory, it seems like it should add a lot of damage over time. Does it just pull too much energy from Sanguine Blades?

balmy condor
haughty palm
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Thank you

balmy condor
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Well, energy in general

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The downside is quite brutal

haughty palm
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Yea, itā€™s a popular pick in PvP and I always feels so starved

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Was curious what the rationale was on the PvE side was for avoiding it

balmy condor
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Itā€™s a good talent, just not good enough

spice surge
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Is it technically not bigger burst with it specced? (even though it absolutely demolishes your overall energy)

haughty palm
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Makes sense.

balmy condor
tall jay
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Whispyr, any GOD tips for council? I link my best log not sure how to improve

balmy condor
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Hit things more better

tall jay
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Perfect

balmy condor
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Scream at tanks

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Idk

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Council is doomed

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Bosses arenā€™t stacked, you get ducked during cds

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Absolute mess

tall jay
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I only parsed a 64 in herioc lol

desert inlet
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I think if you could have 8 more shadowstep charges and cloak the duck

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council would b ok

balmy condor
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I think if 2/3 bosses werenā€™t static

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Council would be okay

blazing jewel
grim jay
tall jay
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Do we just stick on the otherā€™s besides the bear? And KB on each different one

balmy condor
desert inlet
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i hate you

balmy condor
balmy condor
hearty reef
tall jay
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That is a lot of running aroundā€¦.my head hurts watching the take bunch back and forth ha

balmy condor
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Yep welcome to council

desert inlet
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the fight is just kinda stinky

balmy condor
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But 2>1 when hitting things

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Caustic gotta cleave something

royal lantern
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ST the guy your raidleader is currently yelling IT HAS TOO MUCH HP!!!!!! and maybe put bleeds on another one when its nearby

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thats how i do council

tall jay
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What is ā€œgoodā€ dps for that fight?

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Never mind I looked at warcraftlogs and ppl are doing 350k

limber lion
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Are they?

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Or were they?

tall jay
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165k for me thatā€™s a long ways to go

balmy condor
limber lion
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Whispyr cranking 400k next reset

balmy condor
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All futures exist until realized

desert inlet
blazing jewel
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Just crit kb 400k ggez

desert inlet
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there's probably some secret combination of secondary stats that'll let u do 400k

balmy condor
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My cat woke me up cause he sleeps between my legs and he had a nightmare and kicked my nuts

desert inlet
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poor kitty

limber lion
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Lmao

slate crown
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Claw kick?

balmy condor
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And now itā€™s 6am and my nuts hurt and my alarm is set for 7:30

slate crown
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Or bap kick

balmy condor
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With hind leg

desert inlet
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sorry about ur nuts

slate crown
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Poor kitty

balmy condor
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Itā€™s okay I donā€™t want to bring children into the world given current affairs

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My nuts are expendable

desert inlet
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Same

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Also I hate children

blazing jewel
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Yes

balmy condor
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Itā€™s like Leonardo DiCaprio always says, age is just a number

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Humans suck at all ages

desert inlet
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Doesn't he only date women under 25

balmy condor
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Depends on your definition of under 25

desert inlet
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Under 26 ig

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Idk when the breakups were

balmy condor
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The median there is 22

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What a guy

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Soon I will be too old for Leo

desert inlet
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:(

balmy condor
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Well I guess the chart says a woman over 25

desert inlet
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Maybe his limit is diff for men

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Ya

balmy condor
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Maybe heā€™d be interested in a twink over 25

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Heā€™s got a year and a half to decide

desert inlet
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ur my favorite twink

balmy condor
desert inlet
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I think idk I haven't actually made the rankings

balmy condor
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Endwyr twink tier list YouTube content

desert inlet
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that would be good

royal lantern
desert inlet
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my yt not doing too hot atm

royal lantern
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like some shity cheap discounter wine

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that doesnt age well

desert inlet
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who are some other good twinks

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ezreal

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kuzco

balmy condor
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Link

desert inlet
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truuu

balmy condor
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Anduin

desert inlet
balmy condor
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Google is good content

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royal lantern
balmy condor
desert inlet
balmy condor
desert inlet
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this but a redraw with whispyr as kuzco

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idk who the others would be

balmy condor
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Iā€™m in bed but it would be left to right, me, @spice spire and @blazing jewel

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Speaking of twink tier list

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Put ol buddy pal Kyle on there

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He deserves a spot

viscid spear
plain moon
wraith hatch
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whats the proper way to reset raid bosses? Poisoned Knife > Vanish?

balmy condor
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Mage or hunter

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I canā€™t reset bosses for shit

wraith hatch
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i want to know the rogue way of reseting šŸ˜„

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in case mages and hunts are morons

balmy condor
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Technically would be what you said but I feel like itā€™s way more jank and doesnā€™t work 80% of the time for no real reason

desert inlet
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is it a poison thing

balmy condor
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Its possible idk

desert inlet
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or does blizzard just hate me

balmy condor
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I never reset bosses anymore

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Iā€™ve been banned

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Cause it never fkin works

desert inlet
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next time we need a reset I'll click my poisons off and try

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and get yelled at

balmy condor
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Are you trialling?

desert inlet
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technically but no

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not rly

sturdy mesa
balmy condor
slate crown
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you have to go sub

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It works if you go sub, take double vanish, shuriken the boss, then double press vanish

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will not work with a single vanish

desert inlet
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nvm hunter can do it

grim jay
viscid spear
frail sentinel
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I hate shade week

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LET ME STEALTH

balmy condor
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Shade week biggest dps week

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Number up = brain good

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Amen

viscid spear
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I am enjoying Sin in dungeons though

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Gotta push harder

balmy condor
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Magus

viscid spear
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(it's Quake's fault)

quiet oar
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Ash is a mage Main PES_Suspicious

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Someone backstab him. PES_Suspicious

oak tangle
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yo is there any finese to having a shard of azinoth at champ ilv?

balmy condor
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What

desert inlet
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hey whispyr it's 7:30 wake up

viscid spear
balmy condor
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:(

oak tangle
balmy condor
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Idk maybe

viscid spear
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M+ build okay for Tyrannical week? PepeNote

balmy condor
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Tyrannical week is m+ isnā€™t it?

viscid spear
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You're glad you're cute

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Not like I could do anything anyway

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Wasn't sure if ST would be better to help with bosses, but I suppose I shouldn't be that concerned when my keys are single-digit

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Deadly-Cripp though?

glacial lantern
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Arterial shock is a significant st dps gain

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Does dashing soundrel energy return only work with envenom? Or is it always up?

quiet oar
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Cant you just play st with spatter and maybe carnsge in tyran weeks?

royal lantern
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if you want, sure

balmy condor
glacial lantern
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Ty

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i tried something like this, i like it more than the other 2 full aoe builds, way higher st damage, maybe it's already known, i don't really know much about sin rogue anyway.

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I shou;d probably change echoing

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For more aoe, but i do lose some st, although it's still higher than with the other 2 full aoe builds

hearty reef
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Bro cooked cleave build

glacial lantern
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I like this more than the other 2

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I lose way too much damage in st with hybrid

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Or with arterial m+

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And it still does good aoe

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Although i did notice that aoe for assassination is actually quite complex, way more than st

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Keeping up caustic, and ruptures etc

winter glade
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Are we suppposed to hold Deathmark on Smolderon till intermission or is it not worth it?

raw cedar
glacial lantern
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I think they already said it's the cleave build

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I was fiddling around with the hybrid/arterial, but liked neither due to the massive st loss, so i changed a few talents, and it basically resulted in a build called "cleave"

proven jasper
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Whats with people avoiding shadow dance

glacial lantern
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It's a st loss for me, but in a m+ run i would probably use s dance honestly

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Just for the carnage

proven jasper
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tf

slim hamlet
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Merry crisis gamers

static glacier
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I think he means desyncing it from kb

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More than not talenting it

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Personally I like to try and keep kb syncā€™s with kb and use vanish alone for IC

shut owl
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this week I haven't cared about KB/NS windows being synced until bosses tbh; everything dies so fast anyways

balmy condor
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I put 4 m+ builds into the guide

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And it still ainā€™t enough for people

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Ainā€™t nobody hungry

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But the chefs keep cooking

slim hamlet
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Well 4 out of the 18ish builds is not a good coverage

glacial lantern
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Still though, it is pretty impressive that sin rogue has 4 builds that are viable in m+

dark token
grim jay
slim hamlet
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Remember the minmin build whispyr

balmy condor
slim hamlet
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Where is that in the guides

dark token
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Highest overall sim DPS in dslice, only 1.5% behind the cleave build in ST

slim hamlet
glacial lantern
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But yea, cleave is my fav because of the higher st damage

balmy condor
dark token
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Been using it in a lot of tyran keys pretty good

slim hamlet
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Cleave build is my bae

glacial lantern
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Also lower downtime

grim jay
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no IW, no whispyr

dark token
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This one is like cleave build without inting ur aoe

slim hamlet
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I just looked at your Sim soviet

balmy condor
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Youā€™ll catch me dead in a sewer before I put a fifth build in the guide thatā€™s slightly more jank than one of the other four

slim hamlet
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And now I have to bleach my eyes on Christmas Eve

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Thanks a lot

dark token
grim jay
slim hamlet
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This is the sewer

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We are all here

grim jay
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that reminds me of the rogue classhall

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dang I wont those back

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just make every major city have classhalls

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and every new expansions main hub

dark token
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Or just keep using old one

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Fuck it

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Random door u open in valdrakken tps you to old class hall

grim jay
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yeah I take it

dark token
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It's just cleave with CT

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Not like I'm taking sepsis or something

slim hamlet
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I mean I have ran it on some dungeons on fortified

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It's probably not bad, but if u go cleave u go it for omega ST / prio

storm forum
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CT over Amp sounds psycho, but we're already psycho so I guess I'll try it

slim hamlet
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So at that point just go hybrid

dark token
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Hybrid is even worse st

slim hamlet
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Yes

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That is what I am saying

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But anyways I CT seems kinda rough with 4pc, most pulls aren't super big where the difference in CT and just slamming envenom seems that big

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And would rather just have the prio / boss dmg for this season

dark token
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Pretty easy to maintain the dot imo when you don't need 5 scent of blood stacks

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CT is way better than people give it credit for

slim hamlet
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I haven't said CT is hard

dark token
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If I wanted pure ST with minimal cleave I would probably play sub

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Sin thrives on giving good dmg every pack even outside of cds, then doing omega prio dmg during cds

hardy rapids
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I aim higher with cleave build than aoe build with dungeon slice. Do I just use that?

rocky ruin
dark token
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I'm using blue silk lining because I main sub in raid after the many sin nerfs and it's their best ST embellishment

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It also happens to be the best dungeon embellishment for sin/sub, and I mainly play sin m+

glacial lantern
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Isn't ct one of your best aoe abilities?

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Especially after 5

dark token
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Yes

glacial lantern
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Just based on the tooltip a fully empowered ct should do more damage than even rupture

shut owl
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CT feels more like a dungeon by dungeon play to me now

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got some goofy hallway like BRH/ToT? CT big.

balmy condor
shut owl
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we ain't sub, our rupture is just a means to an end XD

arctic socket
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Who wants to eat at boners kebabs with me?

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grim jay
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where is that boners you mentioned

sullen quest
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yeah I think you're seeing what you want to see my guy

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that's clearly a D

fleet pagoda
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Doner Kebab sounds even worse though. some cannibalism jaunt

sullen quest
storm forum
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We have doner kebabs in America though

fleet pagoda
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yeah, but i guess it wouldn't read out that way compared to donor. it'd be like done-r, minus the alternate "o" we don't use

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we do? PogO

storm forum
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Well, near me we do at least

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And I've seen it other places

sullen quest
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But I'm guessing it's not that normalised over there

sweet ridge
sullen quest
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It's more widespread than pizza here

sweet ridge
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can someone take a look. Why am i simming so far below my guild

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they are 10 ilvls higher but theres a 40k gap with a warlock

storm forum
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4 min is a pretty bad timer for sass

sweet ridge
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its 5 min

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should i go 6?

fleet pagoda
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it says 4min on the report

sweet ridge
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weird it was 5

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im running a 8

fleet pagoda
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oh i refreshed it and it changed

sweet ridge
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6*

fleet pagoda
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what in tarnation lol

storm forum
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I might be too sleepy to read this properly

sweet ridge
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still 185

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187*

wild condor
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Do we take Wafting Devotion or Sophic? i want to use Sophic 3 on Nick of time since i change to outlaw in m+ and its a huge dps increase but i dont know if we lose a lot of dps in rip as Sin because of the hate in our KB window

junior yoke
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we still here

wild condor
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Raid"

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Haste"

sweet ridge
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is 187k for 472 ilvl

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within norm

junior yoke
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this is a fucking joke XD

sweet ridge
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i dont have the helm enchant. I dont know if its really big.

fleet pagoda
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have you tried simming some other variations in secondaries? maybe putting some hissing runes on

sweet ridge
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trying now

bright surge
sweet ridge
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ok

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but im still 40k behind a 10ilvl lock

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hissing rune is a drop lol

subtle tundra
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i mean

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assa is one of the lowest simming specs

bright surge
subtle tundra
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get 10 ilvls + helm youll be like 10-15 below

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and thats fine

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cause thats how assa sims

sweet ridge
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ok

fleet pagoda
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did the lock sim with PI?

glacial lantern
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Why does sin sim so low but performs apparently so well?

fleet pagoda
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it looks like you didn't take it

sullen quest
subtle tundra
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does it perform so well?

sullen quest
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comparing sims just like that, esp against other classes, is really weird

glacial lantern
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Wasn't it at the top of the logs?

sullen quest
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not very productive

subtle tundra
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yea

glacial lantern
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Yea, but the nerfs are just 3%

subtle tundra
#

the 3% nerfs mean more than you'd think

bright surge
subtle tundra
#

nah it was top after kb nerfs

glacial lantern
#

I see

#

By the way does kb benefit from both amply and deadly? Does the damage stack from both?

#

Is that why they reduced tempered proc rate?

subtle tundra
#

it also means people will tend to PI assa less, assa be played less cause it wont be PI'd

#

and it spirals downwards

fleet pagoda
glacial lantern
#

I see

#

I can see why they nerfed that interaction

slim hamlet
#

No

#

Delete PI don't nerf specs good with it

dark token
#

Ye really annoying also how it affects m+

#

Assa was op in raid but it wasn't in keys

slim hamlet
#

"we don't balance around PI" my ass

glacial lantern
#

Pi should NOT exist as it is

subtle tundra
#

we're getting butterfly effect'd

slim hamlet
#

Dogshit ability

bright surge
fleet pagoda
#

or it should have a seperate exhaustion debuff

dark token
#

This is why it's better to be sub

#

No pi

#

Top dam

#

They don't touch it

#

It's pi target nerf

#

Just delete it and augs pls

bright surge
dark token
#

No one I've ever met actually likes this

subtle tundra
#

guys wasnt demo DOWNBAD

image.png
#

atleast i thought so

#

considering the amount of crying my warlock was doing

slim hamlet
dark token
rotund oak
#

disgusting specc

slim hamlet
#

Yea Varas warlock is rly bad right now

#

In all content

#

Like always

#

Smh

bright surge
slim hamlet
#

Idk how interesting a haste and nothing else CD is to them

#

But sure idc i dont play it

dark token
#

Outlaw next on nerf bat

#

Chop chop

slim hamlet
#

Sure buddy

dark token
#

Op in +15 keys and top dam in raid

slim hamlet
#

Assa gets another nerf before outlaw

dark token
#

Sub will be unnerfed and left standing as top spec

#

Same script as s1

#

This is boring me blizz

slim hamlet
#

Assa also gets another nerf before they fix aug hooks

hardy rapids
#

assa is overperforming hella in raid tbf

rotund oak
#

outlaw is OP in +28 keys,like there are many outlaws that play highkeys rn

dark token
#

After latest batch of nerfs not really

slim hamlet
#

Delete PI and it isn't Fate

dark token
#

First set of nerfs already tuned it down

#

All they had to do was buff shitty specs like ww and aff

#

And it was fine

hardy rapids
#

outlaw has been and will forever be the best m+ class

dark token
#

The last 3% is over the line imo

slim hamlet
#

Sin was very competitive

hardy rapids
#

its always in the top runs

slim hamlet
#

But then got 20 nerfs bcs of PI in raid

dark token
hardy rapids
#

Pi needs a nerf

slim hamlet
#

Next expansion assa Meta for sure

dark token
#

Outlaw was better pick due to survivability

#

In top keys

#

Now it loses in dmg and is swuishier

hardy rapids
#

outlaw has better utility

subtle tundra
#

LOL

slim hamlet
#

WHAT

rotund oak
subtle tundra
#

sure you meant worse

slim hamlet
#

How the fuck does outlaw have better util

subtle tundra
#

this aint bfa bud

slim hamlet
#

Double util poison and iron wire VS nothing for outlaw

dark token
#

And crippling poison is big in lots of keys

#

Like spiteful week it owns

proven jasper
#

Truth

slim hamlet
#

Playing my aug on spiteful without any slow specs is actually cringe when I am used to crippling

tall basalt
#

I wouldnā€™t be mad if they nerfed something else to buff indis or smth

dark token
#

Outlaw has nothing except being able to vanish more effects more often and they will never do this cause it its their dmg

rotund oak
hardy rapids
#

i mean it has access to everything assa has except more poisons. more mobility with both grappling hook and shadow step. also has dirty tricks

slim hamlet
#

Iron wire is beyond broken

hardy rapids
#

and blinding powder

rotund oak
#

yup

slim hamlet
fleet pagoda
#

blinding powder's chillin. blackjack's wild tho

subtle tundra
#

how's mobility part of your argument

dark token
#

Iron wire + Aug extending silence into kb dance silence again

#

This is like 10 secs of silence

proven jasper
subtle tundra
#

assa has sprint and 2 shadowsteps

slim hamlet
#

And then u dance/vanish for 6 sec more

#

Gg

proven jasper
#

and you have my group

hardy rapids
#

assa has to go out of its way to apply more

slim hamlet
#

Yes but u only have 1 as outlaw

#

No u don't

proven jasper
dark token
proven jasper
#

HUH

slim hamlet
#

No one is playing no dtb anymotr

#

Stop coping for no reason

hardy rapids
#

you need tempered blades witch isnt always taken in m+. in the m+ build its not taken?

subtle tundra
slim hamlet
#

It is literally always taken

dark token
#

So you don't know anything about assa kk

slim hamlet
#

Aint No one playing no dtb in keys over 20 anymore

dark token
#

It's only not taken first week when everyone had old tier set and was doing low keys

hardy rapids
#

you need stealth and or vanish

subtle tundra
#

yea you've never played assa

dark token
#

U realize outlaw does too

#

Like

#

More than assa

subtle tundra
#

why are you talking about assa if you dont know shit about it

hardy rapids
dark token
#

That's not what I'm talking about

subtle tundra
#

šŸ’€

proven jasper
#

This guy is on something bro

dark token
#

Outlaw without restealthing is worse than sin without restealthing in keys

past forum
#

Yeah buddy hold your vanish as outlaw

hardy rapids
#

how so?

hardy rapids
rotund oak
# hardy rapids you need stealth and or vanish

thats not very true,dance is there every min,u dont need those.The real problem is when the tank pulls smol and chains so there u cant rly play around IC that much coz the value from dance is alot smaller

hardy rapids
#

its literally easier to use it on outlaw constantly

past forum
#

So youā€™re just gonna 9million iq get vanish off cd at the exact moment youā€™re targetted by a spell?

dark token
#

They rely on it to do non shit dmg for the first 20s of a pack because they have no buffs or AR or anything rolling

hardy rapids
#

isnt it better to use vanish and shadow dance to get more outta crackshot?

subtle tundra
#

idk how you cant accept assa has more utility than outlaw

proven jasper
#

Im still lost at the comment that outlaw has more util, in what world

dark token
#

Anyway it's a moot point cause despite the utility and dmg profile outlaw can just live much better and do more dam now because of sin nerfs gg

hardy rapids
subtle tundra
#

not really

proven jasper
#

Its a large edge bro

subtle tundra
#

assa silences are extremely good

#

like

#

EXTREMLEY

dark token
#

So outlaw is better in m+ but outlaw does not have more utility lol

subtle tundra
#

i can solo carry pugs

#

in kicks

proven jasper
#

iron wire is LITERALLY the best talent in the game

subtle tundra
#

with good play

proven jasper
#

yes

rotund oak
dark token
proven jasper
fleet pagoda
proven jasper
rotund oak
proven jasper
#

Idk bro i think it might be

past forum
#

Tanks still think they need to LOS caster packs. They must have amnesia, they forgot iron wire

proven jasper
#

Tanks will love you for playin assa

hardy rapids
#

again the silence can only be gotten from stealth so the point of chain pulls fucking you over is still there since you have to rely on vanish/shadowdance

rotund oak
#

prot pallies dont care about ironwire tbh

subtle tundra
#

we play shadow dance

#

in every build

hardy rapids
#

i never said you didnt?

proven jasper
#

bro you have access to stealth like all the time

#

With s dance and vanish

#

you really do

hardy rapids
#

"all the time" 1 min cd and 2 min cd

subtle tundra
#

so why is your argument stealth

#

yes all the time

#

cause i know how to time my shit

proven jasper
#

literally you can cover

subtle tundra
#

and plan ahead

proven jasper
#

If ur brain works

rotund oak
#

about a min

proven jasper
#

^^

rotund oak
#

u literally press dance every pull

#

pretty much

hardy rapids
#

in like 18+ yah.

rotund oak
#

even in 21-23 range

subtle tundra
#

ofc we're talking about higher than 18s

#

bud

rotund oak
#

where DHs blast packs

subtle tundra
#

who the fuck cares about 10s

#

i can play with 1 hand

proven jasper
hardy rapids
subtle tundra
#

then why are you arguing

proven jasper
#

i meann

subtle tundra
#

about such edge cases

hardy rapids
#

im just making comparisons

subtle tundra
#

in which you have 0 experience

#

youre talking out of your ass

hardy rapids
#

you know this how?

rotund oak
#

basicly the comparisons fall under false assumptions

#

thats whats wrong

blissful forge
subtle tundra
#

sorry

#

bud

blissful forge
#

no need to be aggressive towards other ppl

subtle tundra
#

fuck off

hardy rapids
#

Idk why youre being so elitist lol

subtle tundra
#

i said ass

hardy rapids
#

im just making a comparison and giving my view on it

#

you dont have to be so rude

subtle tundra
#

which everyone is saying is wrong

#

and you cant accept cause youre ignorant

hardy rapids
#

im not saying im right still? i just dont think the edge is a big as youre saying

rotund oak
hardy rapids
#

im literally agreeing with you now that their better but youre just too aggressive to chill out and read

past forum
#

In keys where utility genuinely matters ass-specific utility gaps

subtle tundra
#

might've missed the message in which you agreed

hardy rapids
#

i literally said i dont think their edge is that much greater

sullen quest
subtle tundra
#

so you didnt agree?

hardy rapids
#

that is agreeing that assa is better

#

what dont you comprehend?

#

youre acting a fool and just being rude for no reason lol.

subtle tundra
#

where have i been rude

#

except that fuck off

hardy rapids
#

simply because i didnt fully understand

subtle tundra
#

to someone else

hardy rapids
#

i can get more

subtle tundra
#

how's that rude

past forum
subtle tundra
#

i dont get it

hardy rapids
#

its not even worth it anymore lol

rotund oak
subtle tundra
#

ive been rude before

rotund oak
#

lul joking

sullen quest
subtle tundra
#

that aint rude

hardy rapids
#

u need to get a life instead of just roasting misinformed people

past forum
subtle tundra
#

wow the get a life argument

#

you got me

proven jasper
#

Got em

subtle tundra
#

i mean, i have to uninstall discord now

#

right?

sullen quest
#

Those are the rules

#

IT is known

rotund oak
#

my gf gonna kill me most likely for that but whatever

fleet pagoda
#

can't tell if you're playing along or not

grim jay
rotund oak
#

there are ppl here that practice assa for more than a decade

runic hinge
# grim jay 20s are casual

20ā€™s are casual for this season but most people donā€™t do keys and most people donā€™t get ksm

grim jay
#

every player that wants to can do 20s

past forum
rotund oak
tame tangle
#

casual in this discord is higher than like the true average in the whole playerbase

rotund oak
#

cblocked

grim jay
tame tangle
sullen quest
grim jay
#

I mean its not even far off

#

like the % of players that killed 1 heroic boss or none at all

#

is wild

tame tangle
sullen quest
#

for sure

#

but 20s in this season are doable by people that don't have an exceptional level of dungeon/game/spec knowledge for sure

tame tangle
#

def

runic hinge
#

All 20ā€™s is top 10% of all key doers at this point and a lot of people donā€™t do keys

sullen quest
#

by just pulling a few times

grim jay
#

as I said, comes down to definition. for me everything every single player can achieve if he wants to without investing much time is casual

#

which 20s definitely are

#

time investment is even how you majorly separate (semi) progress from casual CE guilds

storm cloak
#

During the pool phase you stay over 50% energy the whole time for sanguine blades right?

grim jay
#

you ignore it exists

#

!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
#

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

  • If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
  • Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
  • Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
  • With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
storm cloak
#

Ohhh easy

#

I thought it was both reasons

subtle tundra
#

around world 100-200

#

any higher than that and i'd rather not play the game kekdog

glacial lantern
#

Sanguine doesn't do enough damage to warrant pooling i think

spice spire
blissful forge
#

every other guild is 3+ days in that range

#

+1 extra day for the first 3-4 Mythic ID's

arctic socket
runic hinge
#

The hottest

spice spire
#

Would

glacial lantern
#

Why did they suddenly decide to make sin rogue a good aoe spec after years of trying to make this the "st spec" Not that i mind honestly, i think that a spec that only performs well in one situation is not good design

#

When you have specs that do well in both

clever niche
arctic socket
spice spire
#

?

blissful forge
spice spire
#

Mad?

#

The brah WideGeorgeHappy

clever niche
gray crest
#

@spice spire

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spice spire
slate crown
blissful forge
#

i dont wanna' be ruse but where is you green name coming from @spice spire ? i never saw you in here first seasons of df and sl šŸ˜…

#

first time i see your name in here tbf

spice spire
gray crest
#

How have you not seen our lord and savior of ravenholdt, quake

blissful forge
#

šŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļø first time im seeing him actually and i have my phases where i nolife this discord here šŸ˜‚

#

like im 24/7 here in those phases

#

thats why i ask

quiet oar
#

Quake is the log reviewer

#

Thsts his purpose

spice spire
#

Iā€™ve been a green name since like 9.1? And have like 10k messages a tier in here.

Also you clearly donā€™t

quiet oar
spice spire
#

Because like this is the least Iā€™ve been in here

arctic socket
#

24/7? Naw bro

spice spire
#

In a tier

arctic socket
#

Stop the cap

#

Ainā€™t seen the lot review guy?

#

Unreal

runic hinge
spice spire
spice spire
quiet oar
arctic socket
spice spire
#

27/10 min

quiet oar
#

Wtf quake

#

How Do you live

blissful forge
#

dont bully me or i call my mum ._.

arctic socket
#

One breath at the time

blissful forge
#

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

spice spire
quiet oar
slim hamlet
quiet oar
#

How

spice spire
#

M?

slim hamlet
#

Pretty sure u just paod Whispyr

quiet oar
#

Are you even functioning

spice spire
#

Depressed?

arctic socket
#

How much did you pay whispyr

blissful forge
#

but do i get also green name for my work in s1/s2 for log reviewing and my cooked takes? šŸŒš

arctic socket
#

To be fair your name was ā€œwhispyrsimpā€

spice spire
arctic socket
#

Soo

arctic socket
spice spire
blissful forge
#

sadge

spice spire
#

Also weā€™ve interacted multiple times throughout the tiers

blissful forge
#

really?

spice spire
#

So I gotta say youā€™re potentially off the goop

#

Yes

arctic socket
#

Good gaja today

blissful forge
#

bomboclat

#

you always had the name MakeItStop?

dark token
#

Makeitquake

#

Or quake

blissful forge
#

aaaaaaaaaah

#

lol

arctic socket
#

This guy is definitely baked

blissful forge
#

now i remeber

spice spire
#

No

blissful forge
dark token
#

Bamboozled by name change

spice spire
#

I change my name multiple times

#

Like a month

quiet oar
#

Whispyr simp

dark token
#

Also it may shock you my name isnt reformed soviet

quiet oar
#

His Most famout name

blissful forge
#

i remember the name quake tho

subtle tundra
dark token
#

It's actually me, frozensoviet

slim hamlet
#

#1 whispyr simp*

subtle tundra
#

wish that wer me

runic hinge
spice spire
#

Always the same dog in pfp

arctic socket
#

That dog is pretty mid

quiet oar
#

True

spice spire
quiet oar
#

Not recognizing the dog PES_Suspicious

blissful forge
#

Frozensoviet šŸŒš

#

we were trialing for bad luck at the same time iirc

spice spire
dark token
#

O that was u

blissful forge
#

ye ye

arctic socket
#

George sounds hideous

slim hamlet
quiet oar
arctic socket
#

That one raccoon > George

keen spruce
#

Why do I get @ā€˜d every morning like 5 hours before I wake up so I have to scroll all the way back up here.

blissful forge
# dark token O that was u

Recruit officer told me im allowed to still explore options and then i got kicked from trial without GL saying anything to me

spice spire
royal lantern
dark token
spice spire
runic hinge
slim hamlet
arctic socket
#

You tellin me the raccoon doesnā€™t body George?

blissful forge
#

ye im pretty happy with my current guild but lemme' tell you something, raiding in a full german guild is hard šŸ¤£

quiet oar
royal lantern
blissful forge
arctic socket
#

Where is the George thread or channel if heā€™s so special

spice spire
#

?

#

This is a double answer

blissful forge
arctic socket
gray crest
#

speaking of which. gonna have 3 dogs over for christmas

blissful forge
#

sheeesh

gray crest
#

that thread is going to be poppin off

blissful forge
#

an Amstaff aswell?

royal lantern
spice spire
blissful forge
royal lantern
#

it stops beeing funny when you are a minority, trust me šŸ™‚

blissful forge
#

im a minority

royal lantern
#

(it was never funny in the first place)

blissful forge
#

and i can still laugh about it but my humor is also the most cooked one due to my irl friendgrp

arctic socket
#

@spice spire

IMG_3245.png
spice spire
#

Tryan could have spoke 1000 languages but he chose to speak facts

spice spire
arctic socket
#

Bite me

spice spire
#

No?

blissful forge
#

wuff wuff

#

daddy

shy pecan
#

What kind of person calls another personā€™s pets mid? sus

arctic socket
#

The correct kind

spice spire
#

Despicable villains

blissful forge
spice spire
#

Literally my #1 opponent

blissful forge
#

all dogs are ugly besides Amstaffs, change my mind

arctic socket
spice spire
shy pecan
blissful forge
grim jay
blissful forge
#

fair enough

grim jay
gray crest
spice spire
#

Real

blissful forge
grim jay
#

are they certified aswell? idk šŸ˜„

blissful forge
#

but thats also the only high rank german guild that streams with comms on šŸ’€

blissful forge
#

for a reason i would assume šŸ’€

grim jay
#

I kinda like how northern sky requires you to send them an interface screenshot nowadays

blissful forge
#

yeah thats honestly weird

grim jay
#

it is

#

especially considering some WF guys sometimes have fucked up interfaces

blissful forge
#

but many other HoF and Top50 guilds req. UI screenshot and also Internet Capacity thingy

#

and if you have a good enough pc

#

which is giga cringe

dark token
#

Why is that cringe

#

They don't wanna deal with PC issues and your UI can tell a lot about u as a player

blissful forge
#

cause me e.g. got a completed scuffed setup and pc and i still perform very well in a top50 guild, always top dps on bosses šŸ«”

#

so i dont see the point

#

that they req. a good pc or so

dark token
#

Cause on bosses like tindral those players can be a liability when they have 5 fps

blissful forge
#

my pc is 10yrs old, got 20-30fps on average most of the time even less

#

bro i had 10-40 fps entire tindral prog

#

still top boss damage by a mile on our kill, and even the low fps didnt affect my mechanical skill (like dodging beams or soaking the right seed)

royal lantern
blissful forge
#

my personal (jpc styled) rogue package is like 33k big and i use elvui

#

what now šŸ’€

clever niche
#

Weak auras are good, but unless you have my shark fact wa it's just not quite there

spice spire
blissful forge
clever niche
#

Correct

grim jay
tame tangle
clever niche
#

I hit the character limit creating the array full of facts

tame tangle
#

some best players have trash ui

#

terrible metric to go off

clever niche
#

Less is definitely more ui wise for me

royal lantern
#

its ALWAYS ElvUI eating everything up

#

or them having 200000000000000weakauras from older expansions they never deleted

grim jay
#

honestly just have a decent standard UI thats close to your ElvUI that you can fall back to

#

easy as that

#

I dont use their bars nor plates anyways

blissful forge
#

same

#

i only use elvui bars and groupframe

#

thats all

naive yarrow
#

Any tips for energy issues in M+? Currently using AP build and find I run out of energy a lot. Using envenom on 4 and pooling outside of cds etc. Anything else people do in M+ to make energy better?

balmy condor
#

More dots

frosty bolt
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
naive yarrow
#

so just spread as much bleeds and poison as possible yeah?

spice spire
balmy condor
balmy condor
#

Bowl more strikes

runic hinge
#

Should I use two hands?

balmy condor
#

I do

runic hinge
#

Deal

spice spire
#

Jesus Christ, Day was dumpstered

balmy condor
balmy condor
#

It was not enough

#

My second game was a 289

frosty bolt
#

quick question for anyone using whispyr plater. is the friendly nameplates supposed to look like this in the wild or is something messed up on my end?

balmy condor
balmy condor
spice spire
clever sapphire
#

Same here, i just zurn off friendly nameplates

balmy condor
#

But yeh

#

I have them off

#

Thereā€™s a setting in the base game, or even in plater I think to turn them off

frosty bolt
#

got it thanks!

fallen forge